Windows 11 on Pentium 4

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  • Опубліковано 19 лют 2023
  • Hello, my friends! Let's hit 20K likes? Check out my website! enderman.ch
    Today I am going to run Windows 11 on a Pentium 4. That idea doesn't sound possible at first, but when you look at it from a different angle, the capabilities of the Pentium 4 become apparent...
    Specifications:
    Motherboard - ASUS P5Q Premium
    CPU - Pentium 4 661 3.6GHz (Cedar Mill)
    GPU - ATI Radeon HD 5870
    RAM - Samsung M378T5663QZ3-CF7 DDR2 (4x2GB)
    HDD - Seagate ST-3250624AS (250GB)
    DVD - ASUS DRW-24D5MT
    PSU - A decommissioned AeroCool 500W (lost its capacity in just 2 years, probably ~400W now)
    Links:
    Motherboard resources - go.enderman.ch/BNPhJDi
    Still got questions? Don't hesitate, send them to contact@enderman.ch!
    Hope you have a great day!
    #endermanch #experiments #windows
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  • @gypijsi
    @gypijsi Рік тому +1249

    Probably, the Microsoft requirements are set to avoid the huge shitstorm that happened with "Windows Vista Capable" PCs, with people complaining about performance and make Windows Vista and Microsoft look bad. Microsoft now splits users in two categories:
    1. The ones who have a supported PC;
    2. The ones who know what they are doing.

    • @AlfaPro1337
      @AlfaPro1337 Рік тому +151

      Also OEM fault for slapping 'Vista Capable' stickers on nearly every hardware, including those are desktop sold as XP, but is able to upgrade to Vista.

    • @ivancomp_inside
      @ivancomp_inside Рік тому +118

      Some Windows 11-supported PCs are slower than 'unsupported'

    • @GGigabiteM
      @GGigabiteM Рік тому +165

      @@ivancomp_inside Like all of those shitty $300 laptops *THEY STILL SELL IN 2023* with slow dual core Celerons and Pentiums that run at 1.0 GHz. and 2/4 GB of RAM.
      It should be a crime to even make those anymore.

    • @iceangelx22
      @iceangelx22 Рік тому +38

      I've been using Windows 11 with my i7 4770k, 16GB RAM and GTX 1060 build since Windows 11 came out and surprisingly my experience is much better than when I was on Windows 10. My DPC latency is much better and games are more smooth. I used Rufus to bypass the TPM and secure boot requirements.

    • @hannahighmark8036
      @hannahighmark8036 Рік тому +43

      Back in the day I had a gaming computer with Vista on it an it worked absolutely flawlessly.
      The people who complained about Vista were running it on a potato 🥔.

  • @Aura_Mancer
    @Aura_Mancer Рік тому +680

    "A TPM Module, which I'm not going to use" Just out of spite of Win11. lmao. Loved that.

    • @iannicolson
      @iannicolson Рік тому +104

      It would have been a TPM 1.2; Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0, so it wouldn't have worked regardless.

    • @ObjectPresents
      @ObjectPresents Рік тому +30

      Petty sure it was TPM 1.2 (or perhaps lower) because TPM 2.0 wasn't released until 2014. (Based on my research)

    • @chillingchill6823
      @chillingchill6823 Рік тому

      @@Marsvy wot

    • @tomyyoung2624
      @tomyyoung2624 Рік тому +2

      Yes only it was really fun in that druaga1

    • @tomyyoung2624
      @tomyyoung2624 Рік тому

      Yes WAY BRO

  • @shototodoroki1977
    @shototodoroki1977 Рік тому +111

    Seeing that switch from non hd to hd screen is just so satisfying
    Congrats on your new p4 win11 build, it is absolutely amazing ❤

    • @Mreja83
      @Mreja83 Рік тому +4

      Cap

    • @myk1_sp
      @myk1_sp 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Mreja83He's probably saying "Amazing build!" for even getting a Pentium 4 to run Windows 11, it would be too underpowered to do anything on it.

    • @Mreja83
      @Mreja83 5 місяців тому

      ​@@myk1_sp probably

  • @mardus_ee
    @mardus_ee 11 місяців тому +37

    In the Wikipedia article about Pentium 4, the "all support" line means, that _all_ CPUs in one table support certain instruction sets as a baseline, but does not mean, as if neither of them didn't support the NX bit.
    As I checked out the article today, Intel Pentium 4 model 506, launched in June 2005, is listed as one of the earliest with Intel 64 technology and the Execute Disable Bit.
    The Prescott 90nm table contains three other models with those features.

  • @--666--
    @--666-- Рік тому +3199

    school computers be like:

    • @aduanhemg63
      @aduanhemg63 Рік тому +184

      Running on old cpu but windows 10

    • @mexmox6562
      @mexmox6562 Рік тому +45

      TRUE

    • @mackie219
      @mackie219 Рік тому +40

      My school pc

    • @ronnie3626
      @ronnie3626 Рік тому +89

      My old school literally had computers with Core 2 Duo E4600, 2gb ddr2 and 80gb hdd. The Core 2 processors were good back then and I think the hdd slowed the system down more than the cpu but still really week even for a school computer.

    • @etmezh9073
      @etmezh9073 Рік тому +12

      @@ronnie3626 what OS did they run?

  • @PieyIsAPie
    @PieyIsAPie Рік тому +364

    this guy has got to be on microsofts enemies list

    • @gallium-gonzollium
      @gallium-gonzollium Рік тому +24

      oh looong time ago

    • @tomyyoung2624
      @tomyyoung2624 Рік тому +1

      E: Yes planning, yes guesswork yes prep

    • @efwdbad1492
      @efwdbad1492 Рік тому +1

      True LOL

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb Рік тому +2

      why ? he just build a less compatible PC, who cares, why he needs a trash PC ?
      Why not just run Windows Xp or 10 on it ?

    • @tomyyoung2624
      @tomyyoung2624 Рік тому

      @@lucasRem-ku6eb Yes
      one at Dish has said,

  • @xenotiic8356
    @xenotiic8356 Рік тому +32

    This is so cool. I grew up on P4 machines, so seeing it run Windows 11 is breathtaking, even if it's far better than anything my family had as a kid!

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 2 місяці тому

      and now you can have a Pentium 4 computer running windows 11.🤣

    • @huzaifazkansa
      @huzaifazkansa Місяць тому

      Me too I grew up with pentium 4 cpu but in these time we get these computer it like exciting ..🎉🎉 but now it i9 plus lot of things but in time it becomes slow in future but us in for pentium 4 processor we are exciting with it but now when we see now these prices for today the price of pentium 4 in earlier was expensive but if now we buy now computer now we get the best of best computer with more exciting too the same feeling I get if I was in future for i9 I will regret too because that why I get angry with these I feel I lose continue lose money lot because technology is fast growth in every 5 years PC is growing in generation cpu are growth up it feel like lose money lot in technology.

  • @windowshubofficial
    @windowshubofficial Рік тому +106

    You can't dislike this man's videos. As a content creator myself i know how hard is to make a video. And i can say of how the complexity of this video is i can only apreciate the effort that he is making to record and edit that video!

  • @TechTutorialsNow
    @TechTutorialsNow Рік тому +625

    Here is a suggestion: Dual boot as many of version of Microsoft windows system as you can (starting windows 11 then going down)

    • @etmezh9073
      @etmezh9073 Рік тому +53

      It's called [something]boot, like tri-boot (bad name)
      I once quintuple-booted windows xp, vista, 7, 10, and 11. It took me ages since the hardware was so slow

    • @mashireta5674
      @mashireta5674 Рік тому +59

      @@etmezh9073 multiboot

    • @etmezh9073
      @etmezh9073 Рік тому +6

      @@mashireta5674 i like mine better :P

    • @Neptune5111.1
      @Neptune5111.1 Рік тому +9

      @@etmezh9073 I have done that with Vista, Server 2008 R2, 7, and 10. All on an iMac

    • @progect3548
      @progect3548 Рік тому +4

      not counting the server versions and different editions, and not counting the different variations of 1.x, 2.x and 3.x, it would be a quattrodeca-boot (14)

  • @nullmind
    @nullmind Рік тому +464

    I wasn't born in that era of computers, but seeing people get nostalgic makes me feel something to the hardware of that time. Great video as always. Thank you for making content.

    • @WilliamHollinger2019
      @WilliamHollinger2019 Рік тому +10

      I was born around DDR was used ddr2 was my childhood ram so does DDR3 DDR4 is when I was leaving childhood to adulthood. My first was DDR3 and 2nd was DDR4. DDR5 will be my next build.

    • @GGigabiteM
      @GGigabiteM Рік тому +17

      You didn't miss anything. Pentium 4's were horrible monstrosities that shouldn't have existed.
      The Netburst architecture was so bad that the Pentium 4 didn't overtake the Pentium III-S 1400 until it reached 1700 MHz. My dual PIII-S 1400 can keep up with a Pentium 4 HT 2800 in everything but memory bandwidth.
      I avoided the entire Pentium 4 era and went with AMD instead. Didn't go back to Intel until the Core 2 came out in 2006/2007.

    • @JFinnerud
      @JFinnerud Рік тому +10

      I worked as a IT technician in the Windows 9x era. It is not something i look back at with any nostalgia at all. Blues screens, general unknown hang situations, dodgy drivers, always insufficient RAM and sloooow hard drives. Spent a lot of time waiting for something to eventually and hopefully finish. Everything changed with Windows 2k/XP and SSD's. Made every one's life SO much better...

    • @procta2343
      @procta2343 Рік тому +3

      I was at college when the P4 came around, and i have to say it was the worst era for me, They processors just get hot for the sake of it, no matter how many fans it had in. I used a basic P4 system for windows 2003 server, for my MCP lab stuff. All it was doing was hosting Active directory, and the fans were going 100mph!

    • @GGigabiteM
      @GGigabiteM Рік тому +3

      @@JFinnerud I remember back in the day whenever I had to work on a Windows 9x box, I'd call them "all night cookouts" because you'd literally be there all night working on the machine.
      Remember the terrible Defrag program that would restart every time something wrote anything to the disk? And it'd take like 4 hours to get past even 10%.
      When Windows ME came out, you could copy the system utilities back to a 98 machine, the ME defragger was FAR better, one of the few things good about that terrible OS.

  • @rebootretro
    @rebootretro Рік тому +16

    I posted a video doing this too. Your method was much better, where you are checking instruction sets. I just tried 64 bit chips until I found one that worked. Your video is extremely more informational too. Excellent work!!

  • @MasterYoshidino
    @MasterYoshidino 8 місяців тому +7

    27:15... Yep. I had the P5Q PRO with the same gimmick. It is meant to improve performance in drives like the Western Digital "Raptor" drives that natively supported SATA. In XP you needed the floppy to install the needed drivers.

  • @TheDoomguy3232
    @TheDoomguy3232 Рік тому +146

    i LOVE this video! It's in the style of an Druaga1 video! A style hard to replicate, but when done right, can make a 5 hour computer adventure bareable!

    • @kijete
      @kijete Рік тому +11

      i thought something seemed familiar! now i guess i know what it was

    • @dylon4906
      @dylon4906 Рік тому +9

      i miss druaga1

    • @Aeduo
      @Aeduo Рік тому +5

      less weed

    • @COArSe_D1RTxxx
      @COArSe_D1RTxxx Рік тому +3

      I agree, it also allows me to strip naked (bearable, not bareable)

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 Рік тому +8

      Only missing the doubtfull SSDs, lmao

  • @hanro50
    @hanro50 Рік тому +59

    Hay man. Just wanted to say I love the voice over. I've seen people cover 1980s and 1990s computer tech, but it is rare to find a channel that covers 2000s computer tech.

    • @shototodoroki1977
      @shototodoroki1977 Рік тому +6

      Power of time ig. It’s only a matter time before we see early 2010s tech nostalgia videos? (we’re gonna be old by then:P)

  • @plusunu5559
    @plusunu5559 Рік тому +2

    dude, you're like my brother from another mother. I do stuff with the same savvy-ness, passionate about the same quirks. BIG UP!

  • @eduardoavila646
    @eduardoavila646 Рік тому +1

    Great vid! Not only it was really fun in that druaga1 style, but you made it really informative as well, with the instructions explanations!

    • @Prabolo
      @Prabolo Рік тому

      I miss druaga1, where is he now?

  • @monrova4632
    @monrova4632 Рік тому +60

    Awesome video! I learned some new stuff about CPU instructions. Thank you for the solid and clear explanations.

  • @ronnie3626
    @ronnie3626 Рік тому +23

    I love this kind of videos with hardware, software and interesting experiments and facts. Cool to see that it works, the short instruction sets explanation was interesting to me, never really thought about it for years. Keep it up!

  • @rarapas
    @rarapas Рік тому +20

    I suspect the other SATA ports are not totally proprietary but they connect to an extra chip. Using the proper chip preinstall drivers might make them bootable. Love your hacky videos, I do stuff like this myself, it's so much fun 😁

    • @daviddetweiler7658
      @daviddetweiler7658 5 місяців тому +1

      They were used for quick disconnect SATA-E(xternal) devices so you could quick disconnect hard drives to move big data. usb thumb drives were not big enough to be a primary choice.
      "back in my day" you always checked the silkscreen on the board and attached the devices to sata-1 then 2 then 3 etc

  • @eletro_doc9529
    @eletro_doc9529 Рік тому +16

    As a piece of advice, you can always use just 4 pins for processor power on motherboards with 8 pin sockets. The motherboard wouldn't know since the wires on the 8 pin socket connect together. You're still bound to the power constraint of a single 4 pin cable though.

  • @realmamitler
    @realmamitler Рік тому +90

    This was a good and cool video, and I am honestly surprised you managed to get a Pentium 4 working on Windows 11.

  • @YouShisha1393
    @YouShisha1393 Рік тому +197

    The GPU should support HW video decoding for H264. You need to install an extension to force browser to use this codec instead of VP9 for UA-cam. In theory this will allow to play up to 1080p videos without problems.

    • @Ntrvr
      @Ntrvr Рік тому +40

      The name is "h264ify"

    • @fbelard
      @fbelard Рік тому +22

      everybody tests youtube with vp9 on old hardware, I don't really see the point of that, at least until youtube stops supporting h264.

    • @renyn21
      @renyn21 Рік тому +9

      In theory. In practice, that cpu will ruin that too. I had a Pentium 4 524, and a 631. With a GTX 650. That gpu served me well as a hand me down. Back in 2014 everything was h264. It still could not play 720p video. The moment I got a core 2 the CPU usage went to 2%. Even with full gpu acceleration it could not play video.

    • @archux_
      @archux_ Рік тому

      @@renyn21 what? Why would you use a gtx card with any pentium 4

    • @renyn21
      @renyn21 Рік тому +2

      @@archux_ I was given a good offer from a friend that got a new gpu. I used it with the system I had until I could change the rest. I was supposed to get an hd5450 just so games would launch. Good thing I didn't.

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople Рік тому +1

    I’m going to subscribe to you because your editing is great, music is awesome, video is great even though I don’t know what you’re talking about some of the time xD

  • @dutchcanuck7550
    @dutchcanuck7550 Рік тому +2

    Best Windows 11 retro-install so far. Subscribed.

  • @btarg1
    @btarg1 Рік тому +6

    This style of video is exactly what I wanted! Love the editing too, you really made me laugh with this one

  • @LughtMon
    @LughtMon Рік тому +7

    Whenever I hear music from Geometry Dash, I know you know this game. And I appreciate it. Also nice build! Love this kind of videos, I myself build computers, newer or older ones. You deserve more subs!

    • @Meacuerdo_
      @Meacuerdo_ Рік тому +2

      We also have to appreciate the fact that most of the music comes from levels none of us will ever beat

  • @adamjudis
    @adamjudis Рік тому

    Freakin' awesome, love this... Good job, your skills are amazing! I can only imagine what a nightmare this would be to get going. Not to mention Murphy showing up ("Murphy's Law).

  • @sppoitier1
    @sppoitier1 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for doing this experiment. It gives a lot of us hope to be able to use Windows 11 on our aging PC systems.

  • @insertcreativehandlehere
    @insertcreativehandlehere Рік тому +17

    Damn, Microsoft probably looking at this like:
    *Dammit, we wanted to scam people into buying our new surface pros, but they found the way around it*

  • @davetech1269
    @davetech1269 Рік тому +4

    You have some of the most interesting tech videos. Wonder if there are any caveats to running on unsupported hardware. I'm sure MS would like to say so! Thanks for all ya do. ;)

  • @JanMachovec
    @JanMachovec 5 місяців тому +9

    With the P4 640 HT, I was able to boot only W10 32bit and I really feel your pain trying to get this work. Nice to see this refresh boots W11, even tho these were terrible chips. Back in time, AMD got much better processors, Intel really bruteforces these old Pentiums, like they do now with the i9s. From what I saw, the first able processor to run W11 is Athlon 64 X2 3600+, that was released even a year before this one.

  • @user-pu1bn7gr9f
    @user-pu1bn7gr9f 5 місяців тому +3

    This was an amazing video, and project. It's funny for us older guys, looking at the attention of a CPU that was just a short moment in the range of CPUs I've used in my years. Some memorable moments were probably going from XT to AT 8086, 286, 386, but 486 was interesting, with the SX, DX, DX2, and even DX4, when everything was 25/50/75/100 or 33/66/100. Once into Pentium, P60, P90, was it then P75 and P100?, the cartridge like Pentium III? after that it was just we got into cores and Hyper Threading, and just numbers going up... I love your enthusiasm and attention to detail!
    PS: Did I see 1 Core, 2 Threads in your cpuZ window? Was this the first HyperThreaded CPU?

    • @user-pu1bn7gr9f
      @user-pu1bn7gr9f 5 місяців тому +1

      My baby will always be the Motorola MC68000, running 7.09 MHz (Yeah, not GHz) if you were in Europe (PAL), but 7.16 MHz if you were in the US (NTSC), and screen output was based on the power grid frequency (50 / 60 Hz)

  • @Zeazy
    @Zeazy Рік тому +21

    Mad respect for getting this to work!

  • @mateuszkulig8440
    @mateuszkulig8440 Рік тому +9

    your commentary is amazing! id love to hear you in more videos!

  • @dothpmn8191
    @dothpmn8191 Рік тому

    when i saw creo pop up in the top right corner, my heart filled up with joy, i love that artist and i think it's really underrated.
    other than that, great video, loved watching it.

  • @aquamarine2044
    @aquamarine2044 2 місяці тому +2

    Actually I have the Asus P5K Premium Motherboard with a Q9650 CPU and 8 GB Of RAM.That's a nice motherboard you have there. Just recently bought a 1000 WATT PSU. Works great too. Liked your video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @_SebJ1000
    @_SebJ1000 Рік тому +3

    Really cool to see that it works!!
    That ending scared me, I heard that laugh and it I thought it was behind me outside (I even looked up to see if I could see anyone lol)

    • @stephaniethebatter7975
      @stephaniethebatter7975 Рік тому +1

      I'm more confused as to how he got a _blue_ screen of death rather than the Windows 11 _black_ screen of death...

    • @_SebJ1000
      @_SebJ1000 Рік тому +1

      @@stephaniethebatter7975 Haha, that is haliarious, don't know how that happened lol. (Maybe it was secretly WINDOWS 10)

    • @synexiasaturnds727yearsago7
      @synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 Рік тому

      @@_SebJ1000 it is basically a windows 10 reskin

    • @stephaniethebatter7975
      @stephaniethebatter7975 Рік тому

      @@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 You're right. Maybe a bug caused the black screen to not show up so it just defaulted to the Windows 10 blue screen? That could be it...

    • @_SebJ1000
      @_SebJ1000 Рік тому

      @@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 haha, so we mightve been tricked

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM Рік тому +12

    I love how many USBs are on that motherboard. all motherboards should come with that many USBs

    • @minbcraft2
      @minbcraft2 Рік тому +7

      also FOUR LAN ports...

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM 2 місяці тому

      @@minbcraft2yea what if you want to connect it to a NAS

  • @Fortuna1
    @Fortuna1 Рік тому +10

    TPM is considered useful, but for corporative systems, and home system is practically useless, has a different enviorement, with this video confirmed who windows 11 runs excellent with almost cpus, ram and hard disks
    Thanks for showing this video, really is very informative

    • @inqmusician2
      @inqmusician2 3 місяці тому

      It's only useful for pros and servers. TPM will hold API keys for you, but for anything else, it's useless. You're right.
      It was specifically inflated so that you had to buy a new machine.
      Same shit happened with Vista. Great stepping stone, but hated because of how bad it was, due to the system being based of a server release.

  • @Mr_Hilarious0
    @Mr_Hilarious0 Рік тому

    This is mind blowing. Love the Building Part

  • @AndyParka
    @AndyParka Рік тому +4

    "Hey smokers, Druaga1 here"

  • @Akotski-ys9rr
    @Akotski-ys9rr Рік тому +19

    Honestly that motherboard is so cool looking

  • @anthonyburgy3432
    @anthonyburgy3432 Рік тому +1

    Super vidéo ! Merci de tes recherches

  • @Adrian-xh4ul
    @Adrian-xh4ul 4 місяці тому

    Hello guy - probably you tray Linux. I work now for 4 years. It is very nice to work with it . Nice how curious you are to try this old stuff. Tanks for your content

  • @msthalamus2172
    @msthalamus2172 Рік тому +6

    Lack of integrated graphics used to just be par for the course. Outside of name brand systems, I don't think I had a MB with integrated graphics until the Core 2 Duo days, so the thought of a 775 MB without this at that time still makes perfect sense to me.

    • @SuneSalminen
      @SuneSalminen Рік тому

      I still have my P5Q-E tucked away in its box. Great Core 2 Duo motherboard. The only P5Q board that had on-board graphics was the P5QL-EM micro-atx with Intel X4500. I don't believe any of the P45-chipset based P5Q models had on-board graphics.

    • @EgoShredder
      @EgoShredder 3 місяці тому

      I've only ever had two motherboard with integrated onboard graphics chipsets, and they were Socket 7 era boards and therefore terrible graphics performance. So we always switched them off in the BIOS and installed a dedicated PCI or AGP card.

  • @Aaronage1
    @Aaronage1 Рік тому +7

    Athlon 64 would’ve been fun.
    Same era as Pentium 4 but with the huge benefit of not being 💩😁
    Athlon 64 was also the origin of x86-64 (then AMD64) and the NX bit instruction mentioned in this video.

    • @XxTWMLxX
      @XxTWMLxX Рік тому

      I'm just gonna leave this here. Seems fitting for this video. ua-cam.com/video/qpMvS1Q1sos/v-deo.html 😀

    • @shototodoroki1977
      @shototodoroki1977 Рік тому

      Nice to know that

  • @Trusteft
    @Trusteft 10 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if you tried any games on it.
    Anyway, well done.
    I think I had this motherboard for a while. I don't remember when or with what exact other hardware. Definitely not a P4 as the only P4 I ever owned was the mobile version.

  • @marianaj.4472
    @marianaj.4472 4 місяці тому

    I really like how you show the computer build process ❤

  • @GQuack
    @GQuack Рік тому +36

    You know stuff gets real when someone gets Windows 11 to run on a processor type I couldn't even get Windows 10 to run new on.

    • @Mizu2023
      @Mizu2023 Рік тому +2

      Microsoft optimized by accident 💀💀

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc 8 місяців тому +3

    The limits are the secure boot and the other special requirements
    But they can be bypassed in the registry
    What I never understood was why Microsoft doesn't just put in an option to bypass these requirements in the setup instead of requiring people to go into the registry and make changes and then do the setup again
    I remember with a 286 laptop that only had 2 megabytes of memory that I upgraded from 1 MB, and Microsoft told me there was no possible way I could get Windows 95 to run on a 286 and that the minimum requirements were a 386 25 MHz and 4 MB of RAM
    It took a lot of work to install the newer 6.22 DOS with the special program that allowed you to use a null modem cable and hook it up between two computers and run one program from the disc on one machine and one on the other and transfer files using the cable
    I had to replace the 10 MB hard drive with a 60 MB hard drive and use a boot loader over way in the bios to get it to recognize the 60 MB hard drive but I did get it to recognize it
    And it took about 5 hours to transfer the files from all six Windows 95 three-and-a-half in disks to the laptop and then I ran the setup program with the switches that would tell it to bypass the processor check and the memory check and the hard drive storage check and it took about six hours to install but it did install and even on a monochrome 286 laptop it ran pretty good
    It did not crash and the lag time and Hang-Ups were not that bad it was definitely usable
    And the thing that really had my head spinning was the fact that if they had written Windows 95 in 1985 there is no reason why we could not have had Windows 95 in 1985 on an 80286 computer.
    I think the first color monitors came out around 1981 and I think they had 16 colors
    EGA was 16 colors and was around in 85
    It used a 9 pin connector
    The limits were there, but I believe in 1987 VGA monitors came out.
    So, we definitely could have had 256 color display in 87
    I believe the 1mb trident video card was out in 1990 or 91
    Windows 3.1 was out in 92
    It was a big improvement over the previous windows version, but I remember seeing Windows 95 installed for the first time and I was floored by the difference between it and 3.1
    It was the turning point for computers
    People had been using computers to get on AOL from 90 but 95 with Internet Explorer CD included just changed everything.

  • @gothfather8741
    @gothfather8741 Рік тому

    Excellent work! Thanks for posting. Subscribed.
    Here's an interesting experiment if you like pushing old hardware to its limits..Take any 386 or 486 computer with 4mb, stick win95 on it and downgrade it to 2mb. I heard it's possible even though the minimum is supposed to be 4mb.

  • @wpochert
    @wpochert 7 місяців тому

    My 631 Cedar Mill rig was a really great set up.. one of the greatest processors they ever designed.

  • @pjcnet
    @pjcnet Рік тому +4

    Impressive, would be interesting to see if Dirt 2 runs and if so what performance you get. A higher end Pentium 4 running at 3Ghz is the minimum requirement which you slightly exceed, you have tons of memory and the GPU was designed to show the game off at it's best with DX11 enabled, so unless Windows 11 bogs down the processor too much or causes incompatibility issues it should be at least playable. Dirt 2 was one of the first games to take advantage of DX11 and this stood out when you drove through water.

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox 11 місяців тому +1

      or looked at flags or drove through the safety nets lol

  • @cleanycloth
    @cleanycloth Рік тому +5

    I did something very similar when the Windows 11 Insider Previews first came out, but I went low-end. I bought the 3GHz Pentium 4 (I think it was the 631), borrowed a Gigabyte G41-ES2L board from work, popped in 2GB RAM, connected a VGA monitor to the iGPU, and off I went. I did give it an SSD to make things a little easier though. It chugged like you wouldn't believe and the iGPU was *horrendous*, but I did get full 1080p out of it.
    And so on the 30th of June 2021, I had an absolute shitbox doing what Microsoft said was impossible :P

  • @CosmizEve
    @CosmizEve 8 місяців тому

    it's so cool you made a diy space heater!

  • @agsel
    @agsel 11 місяців тому +1

    That's really fun! I think I'll also install put my 661 back in one of my P5Q and replicate this. I've tested Windows 10 before and it was also dog slow.
    So after reading the manual, did you finally put the graphics card in the right PCIE slot as well?

  • @ivancomp_inside
    @ivancomp_inside Рік тому +33

    I have the similar PC but RAM is manufactured by hynix, CPU is Pentium 4 641 and Motherboard is Asus P5LD2 SE 1 rev.
    Enderman is got ahead of me. I wanted to create upgrade series where I wanted to find out which version of Windows is the latest for my Pentium 4 PC. But while I was editing it (since November 2022) Enderman uploaded this. I hope my video will still interesting for people who don't understand English or don't watch Enderman...

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace Рік тому +6

      I mean, just because someone makes a video about it doesnt mean another video about it will be unintresting.

  • @doctormeem7457
    @doctormeem7457 Рік тому +17

    Actualy, this is a very rare thing to see TPM in a box from Russia. Because TPM modules in a motherboards of any kind are always get deleted when they getting shiped to Russia.

    • @hunterzone4846
      @hunterzone4846 Рік тому +3

      Why is that?

    • @doctormeem7457
      @doctormeem7457 Рік тому

      @@hunterzone4846 The use of cryptography tools and installations containing such tools on the territory of Russia is possible only on the basis of a license (Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of April 3, 1995), or "notification". And also because they dont have GOST certefication.

  • @tobiwonkanogy2975
    @tobiwonkanogy2975 Рік тому +2

    the P5Q looks insane with all that usb 2.0 and network connectivity. built in NIC or switch or both . :0 not to mention the beefy heat sinks on the power delivery and chipset.

  • @Plaston_
    @Plaston_ Рік тому

    That great that all of this hardware is still supported, im going to make a dual boot between 10 and XP as a retro machine laptop thingy maybe you should do the same as it could be entertaining!

  • @natea4158
    @natea4158 6 місяців тому +5

    you can go even a tad less than a pentium 4 with windows 11. since it's 64 bit required, most people assume the pentium 4 ht is the lowest it can go. but there were indeed a few amd cpus a bit older that were single core single thread, but 64 bit capable. some of these old early semprons and athlons indeed will install and run windows 11. and if you can push 1gb into the system with a 4 slot board and 256mb sticks, it starts becoming "somewhat" useable even.

  • @MultiYippee
    @MultiYippee Рік тому +3

    My old Dell computer had a Pentium 4 3.20 GHz HT that supported 64-bit OSes. You couldn't use anything newer than Windows 8 in 64-bit, though, as it required extra instruction sets for security that weren't on the CPU.

  • @_denzy_6310
    @_denzy_6310 8 місяців тому

    I grew up around a pentium 4 and this is so nostalgic and cool

  • @iwanhaniyoto
    @iwanhaniyoto Рік тому +1

    Great effort installing Win5dows 11 on mechanical drives with Pentium 4. This prove Windows 11 still works on older specs.
    I think Core2Duo or Core2Quad with SATA SSD dan 4GB RAM will rundecent enough with Windows 11 (Tiny11).
    I use Tiny11 for several low specs like Celeron 3060, Core i3-17 from 3rd-4th Gen and 128-256Gb SSD, and running well for office, email dan browsing.

  • @theasin32
    @theasin32 Рік тому +24

    Great video as always!
    I wonder, if Windows 11 can even run on even older CPUs.
    But that's very impressive!

    • @Neffeps
      @Neffeps Рік тому +5

      I managed to run it on a Celeron D, which is the same architecture but a much slower CPU. And also FX5500, which is the oldest GPU that will support Windows 11. Video soon on a different channel

    • @politicallyambiguous8424
      @politicallyambiguous8424 Рік тому

      @@Neffeps Cool, though I'm sure it ran like a dead snail. Just shows how fake the "requirements" are though.

    • @Neffeps
      @Neffeps Рік тому

      @@politicallyambiguous8424 Well, simple tasks took ages, but as a demonstration I tried many things, browsing the web, even playing an old version of Minecraft. It took me several days to install and demo though

    • @rafaelbluestacks3561
      @rafaelbluestacks3561 Рік тому

      Impossible cannot get any older than pentium 4 pentium 3 cannot run windows 11 because is a 32 bit

    • @Neffeps
      @Neffeps Рік тому

      @@rafaelbluestacks3561 I mean the Celeron D (model 347, Cedar Mill), which is based on the same architecture as the Pentium 4 661 used by Enderman in the video.

  • @szobione
    @szobione Рік тому +8

    I will be doing exactly the same thing on my old office PC from 2012 with Celeron Dual-Core and 4Gb or RAM, but with a SSD drive to speed up the operation. I hope I succeed :-)
    I also agree with Windows 11 actually running better on slower PCs than Windows 10. I got my Proxmox server with i5 processor and 2 installations for Windows 10 and Windows 11 side by side, sometimes even running together and the GUI of Windows 11 runs much faster than that of Windows 10. The only difference is RAM usages. Windows 10 rarely uses 3Gb or RAM. Most of the time the memory charts in Proxmox show it uses 2Gb, so I gave the VM 4Gb of RAM for Windows 10. Windows 11 uses 1gb more RAM. It stay around 3GB most of the time sometimes going to 4Gb, so I had to give the VM 5Gb. Windows 11 in VM runs so smoothly, it is hard to believe. I noticed that with 22H2 update Microsoft lowered the hardware requirements for running Windows 10 and Windows 11. Also Windows folder is much smaller than that of Windows 7. Windows 10/11 with 22H2 freshly installed is around 14Gb, while Windows 7 was 17 Gb. So, they did slim down the OS. Now if you have 10 year old PC, you can run Windows 11 better than Windows 7 on them.

    • @Marsvy
      @Marsvy Рік тому

      Good Pc
      i have a PC of 2012 too, And also runs Windows 10 properly

    • @szobione
      @szobione Рік тому

      @@Marsvy Yeah, but I noticed 22H2 Windows 11 is more smooth and more responsive than Windows 10, so I will upgrade from 7 to 11.

    • @Marsvy
      @Marsvy Рік тому

      Always depends of Hardware

    • @Marsvy
      @Marsvy Рік тому

      Of what year is your Hardware

    • @szobione
      @szobione Рік тому

      @@Marsvy I got a lot of PCs from new ones to older ones. The oldest is from 2009 and runs an early version of Win7, but it has Centrino single core, so it is not suitable for newer Windows versions. But it runs Linux well. The one I plan to install Windows 11 is from 2012 with 4Gb of RAM and Nvidia card with Celeron Dual-Core. It runs Windows 7 well, so I think when I install a new SSD drive it should run on Win11.

  • @dedr4m
    @dedr4m Рік тому +1

    Finally, a PC that my work colleague (Here at a printer/PC/epos repair workshop) would use comfortably.
    I had to, well, cut the windings on a balance inductor on the HDD of his Core2Duo he was running Windows 11 on for work. He'd complain about how "All the servers just seem slow again" (Bear in mind he thinks everything is a web-browser, probably even his own ya-know-what), cutting those windings so there's no "visible damage" meant I could at least upgrade him to a 3rd gen core i5 (despite 2023) and thus he hasn't complained about slow servers since.
    Before that, the PC blew up its power suplpy twice and charred on the second fail, then had 2x replacement PSUs (Old Dell Optiplex Core2Duo at 2Ghz).

  • @Benandjo23
    @Benandjo23 5 місяців тому

    Love your videos!

  • @win7admin
    @win7admin Рік тому +7

    This video is really nice, showing what Pentium 4's can do. Microsoft is really greddy with their system requirments even tho, in reality, they are much lower. Good video Enderman! Keep up the good work!

    • @EdyAlbertoMSGT3
      @EdyAlbertoMSGT3 7 місяців тому

      Another comment explained that they probably did it soo people would not cry when the system runs slowly on their bare-minimun systems

  • @Kraxlii
    @Kraxlii Рік тому +8

    no wonder school pcs boot up in 15 mins

  • @jenmango7629
    @jenmango7629 9 місяців тому

    this one is genius!! you are so amazing!!!

  • @rocketscientist007
    @rocketscientist007 Рік тому +2

    You can now use Rufus 3.20 (and higher releases) to create a USB bootable media to bypass virtually all the Windows 11 22H2 restrictions, including an internet connection and a Microsoft account to complete the initial setup.

  • @pawer_themaw
    @pawer_themaw Рік тому +19

    I got what i wanted. An Enderman video with some MJDlike spice!

  • @mickwolf1077
    @mickwolf1077 Рік тому +5

    I have a p4 3.4ghz prescHot I think its the extreme one, I bought it for gaming. There was noticeable input lag which was due to the longer execution pipeline so I got a 3.2 north wood (I think) and was much better in games and a lot cooler.

  • @jasmidotormythrilaon
    @jasmidotormythrilaon 10 місяців тому

    seeing this mobo brought me back to middle school. one of my very first computer builds was with a p5q pro with a q6700

  • @AdrianHiguera
    @AdrianHiguera 3 місяці тому

    love this type of videos

  • @harpskid
    @harpskid Рік тому +3

    Would be interesting to see a build of this quality running on linux! The linux kernel still supports 32bit cpus too!

    • @SuneSalminen
      @SuneSalminen Рік тому +1

      Any kind of Linux would just boot up and run normally. With a little bit of work and a compatible video card, the P5Q Premium can run OS X High Sierra. That would make for a much more interesting video.

    • @EdyAlbertoMSGT3
      @EdyAlbertoMSGT3 7 місяців тому

      Oh shit not another Linux recruiter

    • @harpskid
      @harpskid 7 місяців тому

      @@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 "Linux does what Win don't"

  • @maxturvaxion
    @maxturvaxion Рік тому +4

    this video is pure evil for Microsoft

  • @davidhollfelder9940
    @davidhollfelder9940 Рік тому

    I remember building PCs from back in that era .. a trip down memory lane.

  • @y2_studios
    @y2_studios 11 місяців тому

    I was always a huge fan of you❤️❤️❤️

  • @ComeOnLenovoOfficial
    @ComeOnLenovoOfficial Рік тому +5

    Grandma's pc be like:

  • @gbnano30
    @gbnano30 Рік тому +5

    Enderman: explaining things to viewers
    Windows 11: *decides to crash* 😂😂
    38:22

  • @januszkorczak8172
    @januszkorczak8172 Рік тому

    Enable hardware video-accelerator somehow (old computers realy need it).
    My win7/pentium 4 640/radeon hd 2600 pro play 720p smoothly only after turn on video-accelerator in chrom-browser and instaling addon h264, so it goes by videocard and cpu is loaded by 50%.
    Great video, thanks!

  • @chitraselvang
    @chitraselvang 10 місяців тому

    Hats off to your work 👏 🙌 👍

  • @kernel_data_inpage_error
    @kernel_data_inpage_error Рік тому +22

    I think you could have used Audit mode to disable windows Defender and Inspectre to turn off the Meltdown mitigation, giving extra juice to your build, also you could use a core2quad to make a kicker build

  • @samsumgj5user
    @samsumgj5user Рік тому +10

    You're literally the best tech person i ever saw in the internet
    stay strong and disfruit russia!

    • @hztn
      @hztn Рік тому

      - Nuke peedorussia!

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Рік тому +1

      Disfruit?

    • @user-qp3qj2jv6f
      @user-qp3qj2jv6f Рік тому +4

      @@MJ-uk6lu i can only think of a pun on disapple, but either way bringing politics into a video about running w11 on p4 is kinda ew

    • @papaproduction5
      @papaproduction5 Рік тому +1

      Nah, it's probably a failed translation of the Spanish word "disfrutar", which translates to enjoy.

    • @user-qp3qj2jv6f
      @user-qp3qj2jv6f Рік тому

      @@papaproduction5 oh, that makes sense!

  • @cardude1957
    @cardude1957 2 місяці тому

    This was a really neat build. Would be fun to run cinebench or something like that in an attempt to get the worst score. You could even be the only one with that processor who runs the newer versions at all.

  • @J0cK3rFr3aK
    @J0cK3rFr3aK Рік тому

    That Fate reference caught me off guard, have a like

  • @JVHShack
    @JVHShack Рік тому +4

    An observation: You could swap the other PC's guts into your only spare case, and the case that you empty out would house the build featured in this video. The only cost would be a little time, nothing more.

  • @lukeb7954
    @lukeb7954 Рік тому +17

    I’m still trying to figure out why Microsoft has such high hardware restrictions for Windows 11 to “guarantee reliability”. It runs just fine, if not the same on unsupported hardware (unless it is very old) since it is just Windows 10 in disguise. Hopefully in the future Microsoft gets rid of these hardware requirements. And also makes Windows 11 better.

    • @etmezh9073
      @etmezh9073 Рік тому +6

      microsoft being microsoft
      can't do anything

    • @svgaming234
      @svgaming234 Рік тому +16

      If you want "guaranteed reliability" you shouldn't use Windows xD

    • @MrImodre
      @MrImodre Рік тому +4

      Claiming to support such a trash hardware will limit you in implementing new features while having to spend more money to make all the updates compatible with that hardware that is not currently used with any new software (btw, they've introduced the registry keys for bypassing all that hardware checks just for you nerds, to prove yourself that those restrictions are not really needed at the moment. But remember that you aknowledge the risks of a sudden incompatibilities introduced with another windows update)
      It's like having to support IE6 in a modern web application.
      Anyway, that's why they can't simply stay on win10 and announce another OS name, since you can't just randomly drop a huge part of hardware support in an ordinary system update.
      Also, they also support win10 as a parallel branch, implementing all the security updates to care about people with unsupported hardware (and companies with LTS builds and some oldfags)

    • @etmezh9073
      @etmezh9073 Рік тому +5

      @@MrImodre you're right about the first part, because they fucked up their requirements a long time ago.
      they could just add a disclaimer that some may not work though.

    • @MrImodre
      @MrImodre Рік тому

      @@etmezh9073 Well, their registry 'bypass' keys acually work as a disclaimer. Nerds that understand what they are doing will easily bypass them and install what they want, while ordinary users will only be able to get a normal user-experience of win11 with no risks for the company reputation from old pc users

  • @peterbustin2683
    @peterbustin2683 6 місяців тому

    Great video and music!

  • @mrkemblegilstrap
    @mrkemblegilstrap 9 місяців тому

    hi! Great video, Bro. I thought that i would watch this while I ate supper. But I was watching your video so hard that my food got cold, lol. Ordinarily I don`t watch these antique hardware type videos, but your title got my attention as I was thinking of doing a Win 11 force install on my hp laptop. Life does have coincidences, I guess. Win 11 complains that the CPU is not supported. It is an AMD Ryzen 3 2200U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx. Processor speed 2500 MHz. 8GB RAM (2X4). 2400 MHz speed, 128 GB SSD. I would have been more impressed with your video if you had used a slower CPU. I`m blown away that you found a CPU with specs that good. The base speed of the CPU in my intel i9-10900k is 3.7 GHZ. I run it OC to 5.0 -5.10 GHz. Of course, all of these specs blow away my laptop. I think that you are the only person on this planet that has an old geezer Pentium 4 with a CPU that fast.
    I did like the way you went into the bios to delete those checks, that was great.
    What sped was this RAM? It didn't say on the sticks, and I can`t remember the trick of how to decipher the speed using the numbers on the stick.
    How did you get so lucky to have an actual power button on the mother board? I have never seen that before. You must have put that on there?
    Another question, please, would my keyboard or my mouse be faster if I plugged them into the HDMI ports on my graphics card, instead of on the front panel (mother board)? It`s for my EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC.
    Come and play Medal of Honor with me? Free game download at moh.tk I play multiplayer every day.
    Liked and subscribed. I have a small YT channel also, with my PC build on there. I have 60 subscribers wooohhooo! lol! :)

  • @DanielTheUncoolio
    @DanielTheUncoolio Рік тому +3

    I had an idea.
    How many Operating Systems can you install on a single computer?
    Could you get 98 Operating Systems all running Windows 98 on A SINGLE COMPUTER?
    idk seems like a fun concept

  • @MaxymYT
    @MaxymYT Рік тому +5

    ah yes, limbo music

  • @danmyname
    @danmyname Рік тому +2

    For me, the most impressive of watching this is finding out how clever are some people that they could practically make anything work.

  • @paul_109
    @paul_109 Рік тому +2

    in case you ever want to try a xeon: The Old westmere- and nehalem xeons (X5660, X5670, X5690, W3550 etc) from before 2010 not only work, the PC is actually quite usable and quick. It even allows (older) games like GTAV with a pretty good performance

  • @HIKKG
    @HIKKG Рік тому +10

    It is very surprising that you did not use *"Ventoy",* which is several times better than *"Rufus"* - not only is it extremely easy to install and use, but it also automatically bypasses the artificial limitations of _Windows 11_ by default.
    If you are planning similar experiments in your future videos, in this case I want to strongly recommend the excellent custom drivers "Amernime Zone" for AMD video card models, which are built on the architecture of *Terascale 2+* (the model that is present in this video), *GCN 1+* and *Polaris.*
    _This will be very useful in modern versions of Windows, it will allow you to run games that would not run on the original drivers._

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому +2

      the two tools serve entirely different purposes, but thanks for lumping the two together and calling one of them crap i guess? gotta love "experts" like you...

    • @HIKKG
      @HIKKG Рік тому +1

      @@Knaeckebrotsaege You are wrong in your judgement, I did not claim that "Rufus" is crap. It has become less relevant for the installation of mainstream Operating Systems, as it requires additional configuration of OS image recording options.
      And "Ventoy" gets rid of the need to overwrite the flash drive every time and to think about technical details (for example, such as *MBR* and *GPT)* and gives confidence that copied images of mainstream OS will be able to run as on old PCs without UEFI , as well as on modern PCs in full UEFI mode.

    • @andreivaughn1468
      @andreivaughn1468 Рік тому +1

      @@HIKKG From the sounds of it Rufus makes a straight image without trying to be too "smart", instantly making it a better choice for me.
      I can bypass install hurdles myself, and worry about whether I am using MBR or GPT - people been doing that for a reeaallly long time with no problem, suddenly we all need hand-holding? Maybe you do.

  • @user-xw7zl4tb1e
    @user-xw7zl4tb1e Рік тому +3

    Спасибо за видео!!! А вообще это реально интересная тема сможет ли старый процессор потянуть Виндоус.

    • @ArmsK7
      @ArmsK7 Рік тому

      проц даже с калькулятором в сотку долбится, да и синька замучает

  • @mparagames
    @mparagames 3 місяці тому

    nice video but i guess it would be cool to have a disclaimer about the flickering screen in the description of the video or before the flickering starts

  • @krtek2O2
    @krtek2O2 8 місяців тому

    p5q were good boards, I ran a 4-core Xeon processor on it, only the connector from the power supply burned a little :)