the way that youve so deftly narrated your troubleshooting process to this absurd mishmash of software and hardware surprisingly helped me connect a lot of distant synapses. i got a great feeling about the other treasure awaiting me on your channel.
Very good and it worked for me with the original install disc with a pcie ps2 card adapter on my ASRock Z790 PG Sonic Motherboard with Socket LGA 1770 and I also put the unofficial drivers and patches on a blank disc since I have 5.25 Drive connected to one of the SATA ports!!!
@@minipicc95 I looked into these adapters and appears that they are in fact PCI to USB chips. In theory should work only with OSes with USB support, did you try it in DOS?
That's not entirely true, I use a Ryzen 9 3900X and I can run every Windows in legacy mode on an AM4 X470 motherboard with 2 classic PCI slots. Literally every Windows, including 3.11 with LAN, sound and video drivers: ua-cam.com/video/LEbnzPDdF0E/v-deo.html Also NT 3.51, NT 4, 98 etc. But... Intel is much better when it comes to DOS. If you run a DOS window in Windows 3.11 or Windows 98 on a Ryzen CPU.. everything it's slow...It has to do with V86-mode implementation, where Intel is simply much better.
I just watched your channel It's just fantastic. And I can't wait to watch more videos, So when are you going to upload a new video? I'm waiting eagerly. See you soon.
Hopefully this week, maybe Sunday... It will be a `two chapter video` about Windows 2000, the last NT operating system compatible with 486 CPUs. First, a quick tour of Windows 2000 running on a 486 DX4/100 and then... Win 2K on an Intel 13th Gen CPU...
I don't know... NT 4 was released in 1996, Windows 2000 was supposed to be NT5 - and this is how it was presented in beta releases. But Windows XP was internally named NT 5.2 and not NT6... - maybe because it was released only one year later after Windows 2K.
The other day I was messing with an old (26 years) PCI USB1 (opti 82c861) card on an 1151 and noticed that the UEFI BIOS picked up the mouse I had connected to test. Also surprise that it worked in windows 10. Makes me wonder if your USB2 card is bootable from the BIOS.
I have the same card - I want to use it in a 486 configuration. And... yes, the PCI-E card to USB 2.0 using VIA 6212 chip works with every Windows OS with USB support, it's recognized as USB 1.1 even Windows 95 after installing USB supplement. Back to Vista, mouse and keyboard are detected during setup using this card.
loving watching these kind of videos, trying to install vista on my 12th gen i7 laptop, and i can never get past that darn windows logo screen, always freezes in place, dunno how to fix that haha
@@O_mores actually yes, using a iso with extended kernals brings me to a complete logo, without it it freezes midway through, and im gonna try to install from the ssd on this machine later today
@@MinecraftRules141 You don't really need the extended kernel. I didn't use it in the video. It was a clean Vista installation using an original Vista ISO. You just have to do the hard drive trick explained in the last part of the video.
If I want to run Windows Vista without virtual machine, I would install this system on a virtual machine first. Then I will boot physical computer from virtual hard drive.
That’s an interesting approach! Installing Vista on a virtual machine first and then booting from the virtual hard drive on physical hardware can definitely work, especially for modern systems that support VHD booting. It’s a good way to avoid compatibility issues during installation. For those who are less familiar with virtual environments, though, some might find directly installing on physical hardware (or using other methods) a bit more straightforward.
When I used the driver you provided on Windows 2000, the device appeared in Device Manager as AX88772C, but the selection page was blank, with nothing available to choose from.
The AX88772C appearing in Device Manager is a good sign - it means the device is being detected. The issue with the blank selection page might indicate your using the old driver and you the "C" variant was released in 2013. I recommend trying the 2013 Windows XP driver, as it should work on Windows 2000.
Didn't know that you can install Vista directly from SSD. Last time I've installed Vista from USB the installation started but it gave an error when the files were copied. `Expanding files` remained stuck at 1%. So I used a SATA DVD from an old laptop for the installation but for that it was necessary to make a DIY power connector. I feel kinda stupid now... :)))) 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Of course you can, the same procedure (mostly) can be used with Windows 7. Without USB support and optical drive installing from HDD it's not even optional... :)
After XP, I stopped using winders for anything. Nothing is good about it anymore. Its easier at this point to just install Linux and you dont have to worry about driver issues as much. Plus! It doesnt spy on you.
@@djksfhakhaks It's not just RedHat or Ubuntu turning terrible, it's the ENTIRETY of Linux! And also MacOS is frequently making older Mac computers obsolete and out of support.
@@PurblePink8678 never been a Debian base fan. The lack if testing in that tree is sick. There's a reason that no corporations use it. When you can do an update and completely Bork the whole install, you should be rethinking things. Winders has the same issue, macos on occasion also. Apple as a whole is pretty evil for things you've pointed out and also the complete failure in right to repair.
In Windows 2000 and XP you have to press F7 (at the moment you are asked to press F6 for additional disk drivers) and Windows won't use ACPI. Vista is another story, since it was launched in 2007 when ACPI was a well established protocol so it expects that your "Windows Vista Certified" computer it is ACPI compatible. Are you installing in legacy mode? I didn't have any ACPI issues - just a bunch on unrecognized ACPI devices in control panel.
Like how there are companies that still make brand new win9x compatible motherboards, I wonder if it is an option for the vista era🤔. I run it in a VM just because I like that Visual Studio lets you make programs that have aeroglass as a windowdecorator :')
Mainstream support for Windows Vista ended on April 10, 2012 and extended support ended on April 11, 2017. So between 2012 and 2017 you still might find some motherboards with official Vista support. But as shown in this video Vista is still very compatible with modern hardware.
There are NVME drivers compatible with XP, as seen in this video: ua-cam.com/video/pE3CswJweqs/v-deo.html | I will check it there are NVME driver for Vista. XP is using a backported driver from Windows 7. It should be easier to backport anything from 7 to Vista.
Chronologically, it was a Windows ME video and then came this Vista video. I guess it was the first video where Windows Millennium is running on such new hardware because the patch that made this possible (cregfix) was like 2 weeks old. Here is the Windows ME in action: ua-cam.com/video/Qn44lD0nQng/v-deo.html
bootsect gives "This tool can only be run on systems booted using a PC/AT BIOS. This system was booted using EFI or some other firmware type." error. any idea to fix?
Hmm, what bootsect tool and version are you using? The one from the original Vista .ISO? Also it might help to use clean command or your boot drive. (it will delete everything - like a factory reset) Type: diskpart - select disk X - clean
Seems like a lot of hoops to jump through just to get Vista to start an install from the HDD. As for me, I'd just update the Vista boot.wim to integrate the USB 3.0 drivers, or otherwise just get a USB 2.0 PCIe card.
You're right! Adding USB 3.0 drivers to the Vista boot.wim is definitely a solid approach, but it does involve a similar level of 'complication' as starting the install from the HDD. Both methods have their pros and cons, and it really depends on what you're more comfortable with-modifying system files or working with different installation steps. At the end of the day, it's all about finding what works best for your setup!
Let's not forget about Supermium: "An up-to-date Chromium-based web browser compatible with Windows XP, 2003, Vista, 7 and 8.x." github.com/win32ss/supermium
9:41 SHIT+F10.. I feel bad for laughing at that typo, but then again, it may as well be the shit key rather than shift, since if you're using that combo instead of holding CTRL, you're probably saying "Oh shit! I forgot to hold CTRL!" Edit: The intermission music used while Vista was installing (as well as in the video's outro) is actually this: ua-cam.com/video/CWbntjo5UOE/v-deo.html Though the video actually seems to use a Sega Genesis/Mega Drive cover I can't find...
@@O_mores I do, but youtube will probably remove the comment, And the iso I was specifically referring to was the one with the extended kernel included, Although there are others.
@@O_mores drive.google.com/file/d/1cUbyk2FhJnE2bT1fLjo1Dg5yKh3tY5O6/view?usp=sharing This is the extended kernel iso, I do suggest updating the exkernel on this one though it's outdated. It does come with USB 3 though.
Looks like Vista is going for a long ride! 😄 Who would’ve thought we’d see it still kicking on a 13th Gen CPU in 2024? Crazy how far tech has come, yet Vista finds a way to stick around!
If the USB 2.0 ports on the back are not working (and it seems they don't) won't make any difference using an USB header from the motherboard since they using the same chip.
But the thing is, the front USB 2.0 header is still connected to the motherboard's USB controller... It really depends on whether there are drivers available for that specific controller, and a lot of modern ones don't work well with older OSes.
Windows Vista is extremely light for modern standards... This OS however is extremely outdated. It's version of DirectX is DirectX 9. Heck I forgot how old this thing is... It didn't even support USB 3.0 or M.2 heck this thing is totally outdated. It doesn't work with anything current.
@@max_MXX Windows 98 is kind of expected because of the extended support it got. But Windows Vista is a very odd system because back then it felt super modern and advanced and it was a system that very little people used. Right now it is way more outdated than I thought it would be. It doesn't even support USB 3. Even though in terms of looks it looks about as modern as Windows 7.
if backward compatibility of windows vista and windows 7 bothers you then all windows systems with NT kernel bothers you if windows systems with NT kernel bothers you then stick in your back leftists
this is the first "one-day old" video that youtube recommended to me that seems actually worth watching
Yeah
lol
@KSGD1111 well duh, i wrote this comment when the video was 1 day old
Windows Vista is so beautiful even for today's standards. Shame Microsoft went to another direction.
This was the first OS on a computer I could call my own! I love Vista so much because it holds so many memories for me
Yep, it was my first OS on a laptop. A little bit slow on my configuration but back then I was into running the latest Windows in day 1 if possible.
mine was XP on Pentium 3
but man, i envy vista back then and still to this day
been used 7 for a bit but it still inferior to Vista interface
I did build 8800 GTX on Core Quad extreme system, kept using Vista on it till Windows 10.
the way that youve so deftly narrated your troubleshooting process to this absurd mishmash of software and hardware surprisingly helped me connect a lot of distant synapses. i got a great feeling about the other treasure awaiting me on your channel.
The title should have been "Gru explaining in detail how to install Windows Vista on the latest hardware"
g o r l s
My first OS in Windows Version was the Window 98
Very good and it worked for me with the original install disc with a pcie ps2 card adapter on my ASRock Z790 PG Sonic Motherboard with Socket LGA 1770 and I also put the unofficial drivers and patches on a blank disc since I have 5.25 Drive connected to one of the SATA ports!!!
Did you have to install drivers for the PCI-E PS2 adapter?
@@adriano90210 No I did not have to.
@@minipicc95 I looked into these adapters and appears that they are in fact PCI to USB chips. In theory should work only with OSes with USB support, did you try it in DOS?
I miss Windows Vista 😭
This dude has literally the craziest partition map
Well, that's what you get when you can run all Windows editions on the same PC using the same hardware.
Great video! This OS looks amazing!
Thanks a lot!
Regarding AMD, you better use AM3/AM3+/FM2 and avoid AM4 onwards since AM4 onwards have poor legacy BIOS support
That's not entirely true, I use a Ryzen 9 3900X and I can run every Windows in legacy mode on an AM4 X470 motherboard with 2 classic PCI slots. Literally every Windows, including 3.11 with LAN, sound and video drivers: ua-cam.com/video/LEbnzPDdF0E/v-deo.html Also NT 3.51, NT 4, 98 etc. But... Intel is much better when it comes to DOS. If you run a DOS window in Windows 3.11 or Windows 98 on a Ryzen CPU.. everything it's slow...It has to do with V86-mode implementation, where Intel is simply much better.
Please reply.
I can't wait to watch more videos. Please post new video soon
I just watched your channel It's just fantastic.
And I can't wait to watch more videos,
So when are you going to upload a new video?
I'm waiting eagerly.
See you soon.
Hopefully this week, maybe Sunday... It will be a `two chapter video` about Windows 2000, the last NT operating system compatible with 486 CPUs. First, a quick tour of Windows 2000 running on a 486 DX4/100 and then... Win 2K on an Intel 13th Gen CPU...
@@O_mores That's Great!
Same procedure for Ryzen cpu?
I'm very happy
You just blew my mind at 0:26. Windows NT 6, 6=VI. VIsta. Wonder if that was intentional.
I don't know... NT 4 was released in 1996, Windows 2000 was supposed to be NT5 - and this is how it was presented in beta releases. But Windows XP was internally named NT 5.2 and not NT6... - maybe because it was released only one year later after Windows 2K.
XHCI hand-off didn't help because all Intel chipsets since Skylake don't contain EHCI USB controllers, only XHCI which isn't supported in Vista.
The other day I was messing with an old (26 years) PCI USB1 (opti 82c861) card on an 1151 and noticed that the UEFI BIOS picked up the mouse I had connected to test. Also surprise that it worked in windows 10. Makes me wonder if your USB2 card is bootable from the BIOS.
I have the same card - I want to use it in a 486 configuration. And... yes, the PCI-E card to USB 2.0 using VIA 6212 chip works with every Windows OS with USB support, it's recognized as USB 1.1 even Windows 95 after installing USB supplement. Back to Vista, mouse and keyboard are detected during setup using this card.
loving watching these kind of videos, trying to install vista on my 12th gen i7 laptop, and i can never get past that darn windows logo screen, always freezes in place, dunno how to fix that haha
I'm glad you like this type of videos. Now... what is your approach with Vista? Are you installing via using USB stick?
@@O_mores actually yes, using a iso with extended kernals brings me to a complete logo, without it it freezes midway through, and im gonna try to install from the ssd on this machine later today
Did you make it?
@@O_mores no i found the iso online, i dont really know how to make an iso with the extended herbal, and i ultimately decided on linux mint for the os
@@MinecraftRules141 You don't really need the extended kernel. I didn't use it in the video. It was a clean Vista installation using an original Vista ISO. You just have to do the hard drive trick explained in the last part of the video.
“windows 6 famously known as windows vista” XD
Please make a video on how to enable NVIDIA HDMI HD Audio on Windows 2000.
If I want to run Windows Vista without virtual machine, I would install this system on a virtual machine first. Then I will boot physical computer from virtual hard drive.
That’s an interesting approach! Installing Vista on a virtual machine first and then booting from the virtual hard drive on physical hardware can definitely work, especially for modern systems that support VHD booting. It’s a good way to avoid compatibility issues during installation. For those who are less familiar with virtual environments, though, some might find directly installing on physical hardware (or using other methods) a bit more straightforward.
When I used the driver you provided on Windows 2000, the device appeared in Device Manager as AX88772C, but the selection page was blank, with nothing available to choose from.
The AX88772C appearing in Device Manager is a good sign - it means the device is being detected. The issue with the blank selection page might indicate your using the old driver and you the "C" variant was released in 2013. I recommend trying the 2013 Windows XP driver, as it should work on Windows 2000.
Didn't know that you can install Vista directly from SSD. Last time I've installed Vista from USB the installation started but it gave an error when the files were copied. `Expanding files` remained stuck at 1%. So I used a SATA DVD from an old laptop for the installation but for that it was necessary to make a DIY power connector. I feel kinda stupid now... :)))) 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Of course you can, the same procedure (mostly) can be used with Windows 7. Without USB support and optical drive installing from HDD it's not even optional... :)
After XP, I stopped using winders for anything. Nothing is good about it anymore. Its easier at this point to just install Linux and you dont have to worry about driver issues as much. Plus! It doesnt spy on you.
Every OS released from 2015 onwards is terrible. Includes Windows, Linux, MacOS, VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING!
@@PurblePink8678 I kind of agree. Its insane what IBM is doing with redhat. MacOS staled out.
@@djksfhakhaks It's not just RedHat or Ubuntu turning terrible, it's the ENTIRETY of Linux! And also MacOS is frequently making older Mac computers obsolete and out of support.
@@PurblePink8678 never been a Debian base fan. The lack if testing in that tree is sick. There's a reason that no corporations use it. When you can do an update and completely Bork the whole install, you should be rethinking things. Winders has the same issue, macos on occasion also. Apple as a whole is pretty evil for things you've pointed out and also the complete failure in right to repair.
@@PurblePink8678 no no. I'm not disagreeing with you. Can we do a ctrl-v on systemd already? Also, let's put the other Steve in charge of apple.
How are you able to avoid any ACPI issues when installing Vista? Attempting this on a Gigabyte Z690 board
In Windows 2000 and XP you have to press F7 (at the moment you are asked to press F6 for additional disk drivers) and Windows won't use ACPI. Vista is another story, since it was launched in 2007 when ACPI was a well established protocol so it expects that your "Windows Vista Certified" computer it is ACPI compatible. Are you installing in legacy mode? I didn't have any ACPI issues - just a bunch on unrecognized ACPI devices in control panel.
Like how there are companies that still make brand new win9x compatible motherboards, I wonder if it is an option for the vista era🤔.
I run it in a VM just because I like that Visual Studio lets you make programs that have aeroglass as a windowdecorator :')
Mainstream support for Windows Vista ended on April 10, 2012 and extended support ended on April 11, 2017. So between 2012 and 2017 you still might find some motherboards with official Vista support. But as shown in this video Vista is still very compatible with modern hardware.
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I'm really happy. because the next video is about Windows 2000 right?
I guess Windows 2000 is next...
Thank you
for usb 3.x drivers i use FlashBoot Pro commercial edition to have the UEFI Patch, but no NVMe drivers works with Vista
There are NVME drivers compatible with XP, as seen in this video: ua-cam.com/video/pE3CswJweqs/v-deo.html | I will check it there are NVME driver for Vista. XP is using a backported driver from Windows 7. It should be easier to backport anything from 7 to Vista.
you forgot Windows Me
Chronologically, it was a Windows ME video and then came this Vista video. I guess it was the first video where Windows Millennium is running on such new hardware because the patch that made this possible (cregfix) was like 2 weeks old. Here is the Windows ME in action: ua-cam.com/video/Qn44lD0nQng/v-deo.html
Please post your new video waiting for long time.😢
bootsect gives "This tool can only be run on systems booted using a PC/AT BIOS. This system
was booted using EFI or some other firmware type." error. any idea to fix?
It looks like you are using UEFI and you should use instead CSM to boot. Just enable CSM. On what configuration are you trying to install Vista?
@@O_mores i enabled csm. did not change anything :( my system uses ryzen 5700x and b350 mobo with csm open
@@O_mores just found the solution! 32 bit vista bootsect 😂
Hmm, what bootsect tool and version are you using? The one from the original Vista .ISO? Also it might help to use clean command or your boot drive. (it will delete everything - like a factory reset) Type: diskpart - select disk X - clean
chad video
Seems like a lot of hoops to jump through just to get Vista to start an install from the HDD.
As for me, I'd just update the Vista boot.wim to integrate the USB 3.0 drivers, or otherwise just get a USB 2.0 PCIe card.
You're right! Adding USB 3.0 drivers to the Vista boot.wim is definitely a solid approach, but it does involve a similar level of 'complication' as starting the install from the HDD. Both methods have their pros and cons, and it really depends on what you're more comfortable with-modifying system files or working with different installation steps. At the end of the day, it's all about finding what works best for your setup!
9:41 lol
We need a newer compatible browser for vista to run youtube
Google Chrome 49 : am i a joke to you ?
Let's not forget about Supermium: "An up-to-date Chromium-based web browser compatible with Windows XP, 2003, Vista, 7 and 8.x." github.com/win32ss/supermium
Sheldon ❤
could you do windows 7 pls
Yes, I can but I don't know if there's something special about Windows 7. I guess you can simply install it on modern hardware.
9:41 SHIT+F10.. I feel bad for laughing at that typo, but then again, it may as well be the shit key rather than shift, since if you're using that combo instead of holding CTRL, you're probably saying "Oh shit! I forgot to hold CTRL!"
Edit: The intermission music used while Vista was installing (as well as in the video's outro) is actually this:
ua-cam.com/video/CWbntjo5UOE/v-deo.html
Though the video actually seems to use a Sega Genesis/Mega Drive cover I can't find...
OH SHIFT!!...! I think I'll have to add some post processing censorship to this video... ;)
@@O_mores And maybe in the future link to the awesome tunes you use too :-)
5:44 What the FUCK is that selection menu?
Well, you can select how your USB drive will be emulated.
Wow 👍👍👍
There are vista iso that come with USB 3 drivers included
9 months later: Do you have a link to such an ISO? I would like to try it.
@@O_mores I do, but youtube will probably remove the comment, And the iso I was specifically referring to was the one with the extended kernel included, Although there are others.
@@O_mores drive.google.com/file/d/1cUbyk2FhJnE2bT1fLjo1Dg5yKh3tY5O6/view?usp=sharing
This is the extended kernel iso, I do suggest updating the exkernel on this one though it's outdated. It does come with USB 3 though.
@@O_mores I sent link but youtube may have blocked it
Next video when and what?
This week: Windows NT 3.1 and Windows 2000. Two separate videos, I don't in what order...
New video please
Windows vista 2007-2024-???
Looks like Vista is going for a long ride! 😄 Who would’ve thought we’d see it still kicking on a 13th Gen CPU in 2024? Crazy how far tech has come, yet Vista finds a way to stick around!
why not use the front usb 2.0 header on the motherbored with a adapter hell you might beable to use windows 95 with the right drivers
If the USB 2.0 ports on the back are not working (and it seems they don't) won't make any difference using an USB header from the motherboard since they using the same chip.
oh nvm then@@max_MXX
But the thing is, the front USB 2.0 header is still connected to the motherboard's USB controller... It really depends on whether there are drivers available for that specific controller, and a lot of modern ones don't work well with older OSes.
i still use windows vista like a secondary os on my junk pc and runs better than 7
Windows Vista is extremely light for modern standards... This OS however is extremely outdated. It's version of DirectX is DirectX 9. Heck I forgot how old this thing is... It didn't even support USB 3.0 or M.2 heck this thing is totally outdated. It doesn't work with anything current.
Vista supports up to DirectX 11... DirectX 9.0C is supported in Windows 98.
@@max_MXX Windows 98 is kind of expected because of the extended support it got. But Windows Vista is a very odd system because back then it felt super modern and advanced and it was a system that very little people used. Right now it is way more outdated than I thought it would be. It doesn't even support USB 3. Even though in terms of looks it looks about as modern as Windows 7.
@@nugget6635
Native USB3 support was introduced with Windows 8. Windows 7, Vista and XP need special drivers to make it work.
if backward compatibility of windows vista and windows 7 bothers you then all windows systems with NT kernel bothers you if windows systems with NT kernel bothers you then stick in your back leftists
are u kidding me its only for growtopia and geometry dash user or gamers only bro stop using that operating system!
On contrary... I'm planning to install Vista on a NVME SSD to see how it goes... :)