Why is there no social service network for these women and why are there no child support laws there? It’s not the responsibility of the punters to care for these children, it’s the loser who impregnated her and ran away like a coward.
I send 30k baht per month to my love in Pattaya. She is in her room all day. She is waiting for me and only me. Also, I send money to a Nigerian prince every month. He is going to send me $10 million when his money is released from the Belgian courts. Its true! Its all true!
I used to send 4000 baht a month, to a Thai lady from Phrae, she's never worked in Pattaya and has two young daughters. . We've since split up, but we're still friends and i don't regret sending her a penny of it. It's improved her difficult life immeasurably.
I met my wife in a restaurant in Phuket in my last night in Thailand. We kept in touch on line and after a couple of months she said she wanted to go home. I asked what she was earning and she said 10k baht a month. I was earning 5k a month in the uk and sent her 10k baht a month which was a drop in the ocean to me. I returned to Thailand every 4 months and we’ve been happily married for 4 years. My wife is beautiful and a lovely person with it. Her parents have never asked me for money. In fact they gave us a massive piece of land to build our bungalow. We’ve both been working in the uk for 2 years and my wife has been financing her family from the uk. I’ve just retired and we’ve come back to our home in Sisaket. We are going to rent a condo in Pattaya and live mainly in Pattaya. I know i was lucky but I was cautious and all I would say to blokes watching this be cautious and keep your feet on the ground and only send what you can afford. I wish you guys the best of luck and have a great life with your ladies.
i helped a girl through the pandemic, not much, but enough to pay her room in bangkok and eat. she was working in a salon and attained her advanced hair design cert in that time. after the pandemic i went back to see her again and went to her province. i had already met her family first time. they didnt have much but whatever they had i got my share. memories i will always treasure. it was a win win situation. we traveled all over thailand together from chiang rai to phuket. when i came home it sunk in that she was 6000 miles away, too far. i said goodbye in january this year. i dont regret a thing
@@Buzzinpattaya cheers mate. i will be in thailand over xmas and new year again hopefully so if i actually make it to pattaya this time i will call to have a beer or two and say hello
I maintain relationship with 4 girls from my Pattaya trips. 3 bar girls and 1 general retail worker. Retail worker earns far less than the other bar girls but expects the least and shows she seems to appreciate any tip i send the most.
Firstly, Trev much respect. Secondly my Thai girl has been my survivor story for many years. So gifted and incredibly charming. I do not no what I would do in this world without her constant care. She is brilliant and beautiful and my explanation to some is you just can't define love easily. And if your not Thai it is so difficult for ferangs to understand. You really have to understand our generous and welcoming life. Never lose faith in love. Never underestimate the lack of this also.
Don't ever think the Thai boyfriend always runaway!! He more likely sharing the money your 'darling' is getting from you. You will meet him. Introduced as her brother or moto driver. They all in your pocket!!! He bangs her when you not around.
Hi Trev I have lived here over 10 years, I support a Thai lady and her son, the difference is she lives with me so no sponsor’s money. My first and only trip to her Mothers who sadly passed away last year started of with the ‘trolley dash’ round Tescos in Isaan. No problem I didn’t mind buying stuff for her Mother not realising there was the family with a second trolley behind me stacked up ! I spent a few days up there but was paying for everything, fuel for the truck, meals etc. I learnt my lesson very quickly, the family thought they were quids in, I did send Monet her Mother before she passed now and again but not on a regular basis, usually 3000 baht. Each to their own but why send money to some one when you are not even in the country, I have heard and witnessed all the stories people losing everything and having to leave Thailand, yep loves blind as they say more so in Thailand.
Rule 1: Never send money. Rule 2: Follow Rule 1. Don't be a mug. Do you send the scooter or car rental company money every month until you return while someone else takes it for a ride? Just pay for play when you are in Thailand.
@@Buzzinpattaya lol, or Rule No 3: "As above."-- Rule 1: Never send money. Rule 2: Follow Rule 1. Rule 3: As above. If there was a 4th rule as well, then it probably would look like this: Rule 1: Never send money. Rule 2: Follow Rule 1. Rule 3: As above. Rule 4: Are you not listening?
Great "walk and talk" vid Trev really enjoyed it thanks. I met my only "regular" Thai girl two days before leaving after my 1st two week millionaire trip 10 years ago. After a return visit six months later I started to send her £100 a month (about 5,500 Baht back then) and continued sending it for the best part of five years. I was beginning to question if I was sending her enough until I was sat in a mates bar and saw a sign in Thai the only bit of which I understood was 4000 Baht, he explained they were advertising for staff and that was the wage plus accommodation and food. I never resented sending the money as I could afford it and it helped her get out of the bars and subsidised her when she was working as a steel erector (no euphemism there) in Bangkok. Good point you made at the end Trev, never send more than you can afford and don't let the wife back home find out 🤨
614 comments. You've hit gold with this one Trev. I've been coming 15 yrs and never considered sending a girl money until now when I live here. Now I am in a position to know what I want and if I have chosen well. Guys should never ever send a girl money unless they intend to come and live here with them. Even then 95% of those initial relationships will fail. Enjoy the holiday. Go home save for the next or better ... building your retirement fund to come here and live. Just my thoughts.
If you walked down a street and got mugged you aren’t going to return the next night. If a store sold you bad products you don’t return. So why should you do it with women?.
Important subject, Trevor. You explained it very well. I'm really generous locally, but I would never send money. Even without addressing it, my various companions felt it and I have never been specifically asked about it.
I have traveled for many years in Latin America. Mexican girl asked me money, Dominican girl asked for money, Brazilian asked for money.. . It is not specific to Thai. It is specific to girls that see you as a sponsor. Very easy to say I love you on WhatsApp and getting monthly salary for just words. Bottomline I learned for years is that if you want a decent girl you need to live in the country whichever country it is.
Yeah each to their own, although honestly be very careful about sending money consistently. For birthdays or special occasions no problem. But only if you know them a long time. Personally I wouldn't do it, only because I lived there before and it was a very big eye opener.
Been there done that. If you are serious about a long distance relationship it is OK to send gift money for birthday as a gift but that's the only exception
Hi Trev. Good work with the videos, especially re the “pay Girl money”. I am like you and see a good heart in these girls/ladies. They are human and some have had a horrendous time. Especially after starting work in bar etc. I ignored the 3-day rule as I am not made the other way. But for me I feel better as this latest lady seems pretty genuine. I know she is in the bar and the reality is that she has customers. That lessens the financial responsibility for me. Anyway, I always look forward to her Line messages. My girl has family: a 4-year-old child, grandparents looking after her kid, and she is the main/only bread winner. Such pressure for a young person. As she is young, who am I to deny her the right to look nice - makeup - have some good times with her friends in bar, and sometimes out of the bar. Almost every day she is with me all day, and we seem to enjoy each other company. Maybe she is a good actress, but I think there is some genuineness to the situation. On my previous trip, I met a very young P4P girl. I bonked her and she gave up the bar work because she could not handle the sex. So, she got a factory job in BKK. I did help her, but not anymore as I have the new girl. I am just saying the bar work is not the best for the ladies, and it is in reality the Thai social security system. Even in Australia, the social security is now being found out to be pretty ordinary. Some of the girls thrive in the bar work, but I have met many who do not and give it up. Some are actually quite intelligent, and one lost her pre Covid work in a white collar job in a Thai company that went bust; so what did she do? Go to the Thai social security system and work bar. But only for a short time as she could not handle it. Some bad girls get a sponsor, good on them. They work the system. No good really. Us guys have to be wary, but in the end, even with bad girls, we should only pay what is comfortable for us. The rule is to not get too hooked and extend oneself too much in giving them support. I think a lot of guys do get hooked and do not look after themselves enough. That is the bottom line; take care of yourself, then you can give a little to help the bar girl.
The answer Trevor is send zero,nowt,nada. I have been coming to Pattaya for 40 years. Never fallen for the me love you long time darling. Immune to it all. I treat them with respect unless i am disrespected. In closing all bar girls are Dentists,They are in the extraction business 😂
Don't send money, or give money to these women. Why is it that when an English man in England meets a younger, sexier than him girl, and she wants to have a relationship (arrangement) with him. But she wants regular payment he'll immediately think "hang on a second, this girl doesn't want to be in a relationship with me, she's wanting to get paid, SHES A HOOKER" But when faced with exactly the same situation in Thailand an Englishman's brain doesn't work properly. Instead of interpreting the same information in the same way he somehow comes to the conclusion "I've found myself a lovely girlfriend". Can anybody explain this to me because I'm really not getting it.
Bad idea! One time I saw a girl in an Internet cafe in Southeast Asia with about SIX guys on her screen! She was talking to each one. Each guy didn’t know about the others! She was asking for money! They do this in BULK! More money that way. They end up making a lot of money! Per month. Why just go with one sucker! When you can have a bunch of suckers! It’s ALL about the money! They view us foreigners as walking ATM machines. So many guys out there fall for this racket. Because they are lonely and/or can’t get a girl on their own. Especially in their own country. In other words……desperation! And these girls prey on that! Sure, if you are in Thailand you can possibly meet one girl that you end up really liking and then maybe have a relationship. Maybe. Just remember too though, if you ever get married to her you will also be marrying her entire family! 😂😢
The way things are going in the UK we’ll be asking Thai ladies to send us money and Africa to have red nose days etc to raise funds and send aid! However, I always tell Thai people that most farang are not rich. We have to work and save up for a holiday then return home and pay bills etc.
To add, also sometimes these girls have Thai boyfriend’s already. Without letting the foreigner know this. It’s hidden. So then they try and get money from the foreigner anyway. Why not! Good source for cash. When he is in his own country. I have seen this too happen to guys.
Having listened to your comments, Trev, I have come to the conclusion that I am that cold-hearted, tight-fisted git you described. Definitely a case of out of sight out of mind. In other words, a proud Yorkshireman!!
Trev, I agree with you. But I would like to add, asking for money is one thing, but to play unfair is something else - lying/scamming for economical gains is not a moral thing to do.
Traveling for 22 years. My take is that calling a female your girlfriend is false hope. If you don't live in the country, she not yours. I slept with more than a few girls that speak of their Western boyfriend, who sends her a little money every week. Most men go to Thailand once or twice a year and truly believe the girl doesn't sleep with other men, even though she text you every day while you're back home. Kings do whatever makes you feel good, but there are many men that have trouble paying their rent, mortgage or other bills, because they think she is faithful to him or even if she is, you're sending money to someone that you see twice a year. If you retire or take residence in Thailand that's a different story. But do you.
I have to say, that second sentence is a pretty bold statement. You are basically saying that calling any of the four billion some odd “females” on the planet a girlfriend is a bad idea? But perhaps you meant to say "females in Thailand". Still, you are right about the fact that long-distance relationships in general rarely work out, and probably even less so when those women are from Southeast Asia. It is also true that the vast majority of men who send money to Thai women while they are away living in another country do not know these women well enough to be sure they are being true. And if that Thai girl happens to be a current or former sex worker then the odds are indeed slim that she does not have other men on the hook as well.
I've assisted a few ladies over the years as I have with people here in NZ and Australia. A lot of people need help and I don;t mind assisting where I can BUT when they try and take kindness as a weakness I pull the plug. I have had all the dead buffalo crap and all that goes with it and at times (I don't believe a word of it) but I have helped anyways as I felt a little sorry for them, The whole point is guys just be real and don't be afraid to say NO as enough is enough at those times especially if it puts pressure on youself.
I love thé girls you meet on TF who ask for money before they even get a reply from you 😂. However I have sent money to girls I know and know I will meet again, particularly during the last few years when I couldn’t travel there but stayed in regular contact. For awhile these ladies were my social network and we chatted a lot and helped each other stay sane. They had no income whereas I had too much so I had no problem sharing the wealth.
Hi Trev and team, I am very interested in the comments this video may generate as putting a Thai girl on a monthly salary has a lot of pros and cons. Many may say never do it and it is ruining it for everyone else and actually driving up the prices. Others who can afford it will see no harm in it. But from my perspective, if you are willing to pay a monthly salary at whatever thousands of baht, you should also be ready to accept that others are probably funding your girlfriend also, so be prepared for that disappointment.
Agree on that. The most beautiful top notch freelancers have multiple sponsors, Instagram followers and sometimes even condo and car payed from sponsors. Not only european. Many rich Koreans even have their mistress Mia Noi in Thai.
Okay, I’m a bit confused once again. Why is everyone talking as if all girls in Pattaya are bar girls or freelancers? The title of the video simply uses the word “girl” not “bar girl” so why all the assumptions? When I lived in Pattaya I dated department store girls, hotel workers, beauticians, realtors, etc., etc. So, if a comment is meant to refer specifically to bar girls and freelancers it might be a good idea to mention this fact in the comment to avoid confusion. When I hear the word “girl” or “Thai girl” I don’t automatically assume that we are talking about sex workers, and neither should anyone else. Still, as long as we are now clearly on the subject of bar girls I would have to agree that its generally not a good idea to send them money as there is a definite statistical likelihood that she will be getting money from other men as well. There are plenty of exceptions to this rule of course, but unless you are exceptionally good at reading people you will never know for sure who you are dealing with and how she really feels about you. As for sending money to a regular Thai girlfriend while you are living apart, that is totally up to you and your circumstances. Personally, I never gave any money to any of my past Thai girlfriends over the past 30 years and they never asked - although obviously I paid for all our living expenses when we lived together. Still, since some of these girls were from poor backgrounds I’ve started feeling a bit guilty lately about the fact that I never offered to help them out by giving them money to help out their families (I'm sure they wanted to ask but were afraid I would think they were only after money). And maybe this is why I decided to help out my current girlfriend even though she never asked me to do so. You see, I live in Phuket but she attends college up north and since that college is a 90-minute drive from her parent's house she has to have her own apartment. Anyway, I thought I would take some of the burden from her parent’s shoulders by taking over paying her modest rent and food. It would be MUCH cheaper for me of course if I would just move up there to be with her like she wants me to but I just like living in Phuket too much and I could not stand living in a place like Isan. So she stays with me during school breaks and I take trips up there when I can - at least until she graduates and can move down here. I’m sure some of you might be wondering why I don’t simply find a girlfriend down here. Well, the answer is that its just not that easy to find a really fun-loving girl who is in the top one percentile of beautiful Thai women and who can speak English without any detectable Thai accent and who genuinely believes that she is in love with you. Finding truly genuine girls here is just such an exhausting and time-consuming process that when you finally do find one you want to stick with her.
You need to be careful, it can be death by a thousand cuts. I had a Thai GF and I didn't give her a salary but I sent her money when she 'needed it' but there were times when she would lie about what she needed, and it turns out the money was going on alcohol and not the broken bike tyre or whatever. Plus you never know what these girls are up to when you are home. If a lady has a child with you or you have immediate plans to live together either in Thailand or in your home country (within 6 months say) or get married, you absolutely should support her. But those are the only scenarios in which I would do so again, having had my fingers burnt once.
The bar scene is never going to get back to normal if the girls are making easy money online. Do not delude yourself, if you are sending a girl money, 10 other guys are doing the same. If you want to have fun in Thailand in the bar scene with perfect 10's instead of 6's STOP being a SIMP and understand that it's a business.
heya Trevor sorry to add to your work load. you picked a hot topic today. chatted with a girl who asked for money a few times told her i don't even know how to send. (which i actually don't) ended up ghosted. don't visit her anymore when i'm over there. have 3 ladies that i chat with now. 2 are friends 1 is a working girl who even though i told can't send still chats. will visit her next time back.
You talked a lot about the "good" girls of Pattaya and their mindset. It was unfortunate you skipped the whole subject about the women who have many boyfriends and requesting money from all of them and saying I love you and only you. Many women know they will only look sexy for so many years and will do anything possible to get as much possible and if that means lying its a lot coming from their family to say collect the money. In your comments you left a lot out regarding the narrative.
Listetn... No girl move from an Eesan village and move here to Pattatya just for fun, or to find their "farang BF of their life! Please understand and LEARN thai culture! Short time or long time, doesnt matter. Here in Pattaya Its ALL ABOUT a money transaction between two adults and nothing else. You "get in" and " get out" and thats it! They happy, you happy - just deal with it and move ON. If you want to find "long term LOVE" - PLEEEEEASE dont look for it here in Pattaya. You will get destroyed financially AND personally. Thank you Can quit all talk about Pattty now :)
With the low season already on, this video couldn’t have been more well timed. I don’t know if others send money, but I change my WhatsApp and line status to “money no hab” during the low season. Works like a rat repellant, always.
True man. I always keep contacts of most girls, and the ones who ask for money when I'm back home, are the ones who I will start to ignore. Met a great girl last year who I ended up LLT for about 8 days. We still talk a few times a week but she never asked me a penny, doesn't complain about life, etc. She'll see me back in October for sure.
@@EclecticBe4tz good strategy buddy. I have had one of these types of girls that you’re talking. She too used to keep things simple and straightforward. But a farang married her. When you’re done with her, you can pass on her details to me lol. These types are rare to find these days. Enjoy man
Nice video trev, its very easy to get caught up especially first timers and breakdown of marriage in own country. They make you feel and how they treat you can easily full in love. My big concern is trust but i got burnt in my own country.
I was once in Patters on a hot afternoon, waiting at an ATM behind a most beautiful Thai lady and her not-so-beautiful mother, watching while the young lady produced 6 separate ATM cards and withdrew cash from each one. The mother had a little notebook and was making notes to keep track of cards and amounts. I was getting worried they might be emptying the thing. 6 mugs losing money every month, for what? She'll be back at the gogo (or whatever) again in the evening, looking to attract mug no. 7 (not the mother, the other one). Not me. I was definitely a "butterfly" when I was there (or "airport"), but tipped generously, more so if I had a better-than-average time, and that was it. They left happy enough. Don't get drawn in to the boyfriend scam. It's a total mugs game, and if she gets her hooks into you you could easily get taken for an ever-more-expensive ride.
Just my opinion: ANYONE that sends money to a 'single' girl in Pattaya is complete fool. They collect foolish 'Sponsors'. If you are married to a Thai woman and you send her money - that is understandable.
I don't understand why anyone would send money to a bargirl. I also don't understand why someone would "Date" a bargirl more than once in Pattaya. You literally have thousands of women to "Date" before you would need to circle back around. 😮 Now any man that can "Date" every girl in Pattaya in a months holiday then I would say he is a hell of a man and I wouldn't dare try to tell him anything. 😂🎉 Seriously though IMO the men sending money to these girls are the ones that need mental and financial counseling.
Simping is always a bad idea. You might as well just throw the money out the window quite literally. It might actually do some people on the ground below some good. More good than you'll get sending it some woman halfway around the world.
This is a really simple one for me - if it’s your wife/girlfriend (real and you believe you are in a meaningful loving relationship) then you send a reasonable amount of money. If it’s a bar girl, who is still working then you are a mug if you send money and she is using you. Just remember the reason the bf’s are so high and charges so high now is because of people sending silly money to the girls from afar! Having lots of money is not a reason to spend it on being conned!
You know Trev, for someone who says they've been living here for over 10 years, you've really learnt nothing about the shallow & toxic Thai/Farang relationship culture. Now for anyone reading this that wants to hear the truth from someone who's been coming here for 23 years & living here fulltime for 15 years; Don't even think about entering into a full time relationship with a Thai female. As soon as she gets a sniff that your money supply may be drying up, or she simply finds another dumb farang that she thinks has more money than you, she will either leave you or "two time" you, with the other farang. Regardless of how long you both have been together. Remember, relationships here are not built on love, they are built on money. Anyone who tells you otherwise is simply lying, or just plain naive. Peace.
It's a shame you think and feel the way you do as I have seen the other side and yeah of course there are thousands of horror stories but you just need to stay ahead of the game
Can't save the world. Unless you are personally prepared to marry her there and then and rescue her. So sending money is not an option if you don't have that commitment. Don't worry, she will find another 😅
why throw money away,,, you are probably one of many who is sending money ,,,,,,keep your money until you are here then you can spend it and have some return for your hard earned money
Up to you. But I wouldn’t do it. Know a friend of mine who gave money to a girl every month for two years. And extra when he came on holidays. He got married to her and brought her and son back to live with him in his own country. That lasted for a 3 years and she went off with another follow. She then tried to take everything off him including his house in court. Thank god the judge was on his side. Ok she got a few thousand but not what she wanted. Cost a lot of money aswell for a Thai divorce. The judge took that into account aswell. As I said. It’s up to you
Helping a Thai girl “within reason’ is a lot less expensive than the 4.5 years of Alimony I payed to an Ex in the states that never worked. Remember, if you are giving money, you are in control, not the person receiving it. If she asks for too much you can say, “I can’t give you all of that but I can help you with some of it.
Simple. This is a BUSINESS for the ladies. Do not EVER put out money unless there are SERVICES RENDERED. Free cash can reward sometimes bad behavior or deceit. It also raises prices (It’s a BUSINESS) for all other people. Having a heart is one thing, but it’s a business and free money just kills off the supply chain
Sorry Trevor if i am in Patts I pay. At home i am saving to come back. Over 20 years ago before Wise etc I sat in a bar when the postman came and girls got blueys with cash from multiple sponsors. I vowed never to get in that position. Trevor prefer the bar behind your music bar, great American guy and good crowd.
Thai women are lovely easily to fall for ,long distance relationships sounds so stressful,I would have to move over or bring her over here ,or if moneys not a problem give her a one off payment and wish her a good like leave it at that ,enjoyed the video anyway mate 👍
Had a girl ask me to send money a week ago. Said it was for rent. Told her no, she dropped me on social media. Way I look at it, there's countless more just like her. No reason to get hung up on one or the other. I'm gonna still give her a go when I get back. Bet she'll still take a few dollars for ST.
I did ask a thai person about the child support program. She said they have to hire a lawyer and go to court but the court doesn't forced the guy to pay. Thailand doesn't have a tax system like western countries
I knew a TG who had a baby with a falang, that falang found out and wanted nothing to do with them, no problem she convinced another falang it was his kid and now he is paying for the original falang's kid.
Guys please factor in payments for.. Girl's father needs money for 10 cans of Leo a day stops his depression. Girl's mother has chronic back pain which stops when money comes into the house everyday Most parents have sickly Roosters that need money for special daily food. Parents must have money to run top of the range all terrain special black color pickup truck. After a while pick up trucks need new fancy glitzy wheels with new tyres. The family Buffalo is always sick and needs vet care. The family grandfather is only mid 60s and only drinks a bottle of whisky a day all has to be paid for. The family grandmother again mid 60s keeps happy on YaBa pills she has been addicted to for years. The daughter gives money to by pills. The family driver come handyman mid 30s Muay Thai fit needs a monthly salary. His real job is cock lodger who stands in and services the daughter when Farang is not around. All members of the extended family like gold chains et al - they expect new gold on birthdays and Songkran. Back to the stand in Cock Lodger he can keep out of site as long as he gets monthly stipend - Song Moon - 20,000 Thai Baht which helps keep him in the local gym or snooker club all day. Not done yet other costs to consider - new TV - new Smartphone - money to buy food for monks and so much more. Guys it is a happy Bi Polar world where OCD is the norm - just enjoy it while it lasts🎉🎉🎉
The only person sounding bi polar is you. Myself and many guys I know have decent relationships which have been going on for years and none of these demands have ever happened.
My issue with those simps is, that it messes it up for the rest of us. Women now expect way more money for way less service. I understand guys are lonely, but think rational and don't be a simp.
🤣🤣🤣 Not content with sharing bar girls with dozens, maybe hundreds of other guys, but then sending them money while they're out of the country..... Insanity! 🤣🤣🤣
*Beautifully said!* And, he wants to see many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many girls, and expects, while he is out of the country, that she will see ONLY just him: the 1 and only one person . . .And if not, she's . . . "no good" person..?😂😂😂 [buffalo][🐃[/sick buffalo]🤮 💲 😆🤣
Hi Trev, some of these girls are earning major money far more than I do. They have there sponsors then there’s OnlyFans and on top of that what they get from going with a guy. I talked to one girl who was asking 12,000 an hour and wanted payment just for talking to me online. These girls are only interested in money and we are to blame for this. A bargirl is a hooker and in your own country after going with her would you then send her money every month Lol. Just don’t do it, they don’t respect you for it they just think you are stupid.
Giving money is fine if she isn't with ither men ! If she is still being a prostitute and you are just one of many men she is gettmoney from thats a completely different story . And I think thats what's really happening in many many cases . This guy is making it sound like the women are innocent little women , they are Hustlers Professional Hustlers thats facts .
life is tough for everyone.........DONT send money.......these girls are clever and know how to squeez money out of the falang........you got to be cruel to be kind......
I'm generous while in the country, but when I'm back home, I don't send anything. One girls I'd send only on her birthday. She's now married and lives in Australia. That's the only time. One I had text me out of the blue for 5,000 baht. I told her I lost my job.5 or 6 days later she text me for 5,000 baht again. I asked her, what do I look like and she replied "555". I was on her call log. Kinda like the telemarketers. This person I hang out with now never asks for anything. When get ready to go home, she says. No, this is too much. Trevor walked past the shop she works in this video. I'm thinking he made his walk around 9:30am
I have a Heart, but I also have a Brain. I've visited Pattaya many times and I was just there last month. The ladies of Pattaya are highly efficient at extracting money from foreign guys. If you are visiting Pattaya, please do yourself the favor and spend liberally, you only live once. But do not send any lady you've met in Pattaya money from overseas, it's a recipe for disaster and these ladies won't be satisfied with just one foreign guy sending her money. You catch my drift???
Simple, my thai wife has degree, no kids , good dalary and career. No need send anything we work as a team, shes just paid for us to go singapore for 4 nights. There are other alternatives.
Sending money is a terrible idea unless she has YOUR child. I've met plenty of girls in Pattaya, I take them to 5 stars hotels, pay for everything, etc. None of the girls has asked me to send them money despite all of them having my LINE and knowing I make good money. They find people they know are easy to use. They call me to go out, we have fun but they know not to ask me to send money.
I do not understand this logic BUT voice phising scams are multi billion dollar industry so does sending money to Thai women. Guys-there are 5-6K women in Pattaya ready to serve you as long as you have baht. As a test, tell her you ran out of money for 3 months and see how she reacts on LINE or Skype.
I think it is wise to just have fun In Pattaya. Do not share contact details. You are just asking for trouble by handing out your Line number to every bar girl. If you need to keep in touch with the girl of your dreams then yes, get a new Email with a really easy BLOCK feature.
I don’t have an opinion on this Trev. Each to their own. Whatever makes someone happy. I did think you were very clever starting your video with a yellow Komatsu in the background. Yellow (gold) Komatsu (digger) perhaps? Very subtle mate 😊. Good video. 👍
I felt sympathy for 2 girls who I became too close. One found a boyfriend just a week before I came after I had sent at least £800 over several payments. I later found out she was seeing the bar manager/ owner and when I did arrive she was a completely different lady possibly hardened from the work she was doing. Another time I thought I had met a female friend who I seemed to get along with very well with no hanky panky. Kept on asking for money and when I first met her was having a baby in a couple of months. Since then I gave her at least 1300 over one and a half years. When I went to Pattaya I told her I am a butterfly and it might be she had expectations of something more but I wasn't interested in this and told her before I came. During the time I was in Thailand, she saw me 3 times during the day but was partying Insomnia several nights. I got back to Scotland and was stupid enough to give her a little bit more money but after my experience with her and the other girl, I will never give money again. In short, if you meet the right girl it might work out but I feel you are treated like a mug by most
1st thing I did 8.5 years ago was agree to 10,000 baht a month to live on the farm, it works and I don't pay for lady drinks, no bar fines and no money in the morning and the cost of those 3 things is alot more expensive than 8.5 years ago. We spend 4 months a year together then I come back to England to sell icecreams and she goes back to the farm. It works for us and 10,000 is reasonable.
@@SatansMinion1974 yes for 9 years and our relationship works, vidio call every day, I talk to mum, aunts, brothers, sisters, daughters even the cats and the pigs, look at weed plants.... What's your story?
Why do western men do that. I will not get involved with a woman until I am there full time. It's crazy that these simps will (sponsor) send money when these women have 10 other men doing it as well.
Very philosophical and diplomatic today Sir. I would say that it's rare for a sponsor to marry and live happily ever after. Sponsoring in absenteeism is probably like being in a lottery 🤣🤣🤣
Have heard stories where parents tell boy to get daughter pregnant so they can get her to send money home for child care and also ask for more as well. Personally i save all year to pay for my holiday i spend money on girls and am reasonably generous within my means, but only over my holidays then i have to restart my savings for next trip. I have 1 month there i know she will find another guy once i leave and i will not be there for 11 months so who knows where she will be or how many guys she has lined up. I just come for relaxing fun time do not need someone trying to run my life and taking as much money as they can while I'm there or trying to guilt me when i am home.
If you marry a Thai girl and both relocate to the UK, it's 10 times easier to earn money here than there so we subsidise the family in the village. It's also a good way of injecting new money into the rural economy which I think helps everyone that money touches.
Yeah, but you shouldn't have to pay for poor money management of that family, and you personally shouldn't be the only (or even perhaps main) provider in your union, or else you are in an unequal relationship.
@@jamie1944 It depends on each case of course. On a basic level, it would take many hours of hard manual labour to earn what we can earn in a very short time in the UK so it absolutely makes sense for us to lighten the load and help out.
What planet are you on? A Tory one obviously! There a food banks in the UK, high energy prices, grocery inflation, average salary is around £28,000 yearly.
I've mailed funds via Western Union money order for support of UA-cam Live Streams. Particularly for everyday costs; i.e. cleaning supplies, electrical and other utilities to keep the place up and occasionally send enough to also include food for the bar girls and that special lady's birthday. On average probably $60.00USD every once in awhile.
Why is there no social service network for these women and why are there no child support laws there? It’s not the responsibility of the punters to care for these children, it’s the loser who impregnated her and ran away like a coward.
Personal accountability. Men are the gatekeepers to relationships and women are the gatekeepers to sex gor a reason.
No Idea but it's not here
Because its a third world country like the UK.
abortion is legal in Thailand. no reason to keep the baby if she isnt ready to support it
Because very few pay tax or into a social fund but this costs money and it will become like the West.
I send 30k baht per month to my love in Pattaya. She is in her room all day. She is waiting for me and only me. Also, I send money to a Nigerian prince every month. He is going to send me $10 million when his money is released from the Belgian courts. Its true! Its all true!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
Lmfao
Hahahaha
Brilliant!....but true
I used to send 4000 baht a month, to a Thai lady from Phrae, she's never worked in Pattaya and has two young daughters. . We've since split up, but we're still friends and i don't regret sending her a penny of it. It's improved her difficult life immeasurably.
Nice one mate
I met my wife in a restaurant in Phuket in my last night in Thailand. We kept in touch on line and after a couple of months she said she wanted to go home. I asked what she was earning and she said 10k baht a month. I was earning 5k a month in the uk and sent her 10k baht a month which was a drop in the ocean to me. I returned to Thailand every 4 months and we’ve been happily married for 4 years. My wife is beautiful and a lovely person with it. Her parents have never asked me for money. In fact they gave us a massive piece of land to build our bungalow. We’ve both been working in the uk for 2 years and my wife has been financing her family from the uk. I’ve just retired and we’ve come back to our home in Sisaket. We are going to rent a condo in Pattaya and live mainly in Pattaya. I know i was lucky but I was cautious and all I would say to blokes watching this be cautious and keep your feet on the ground and only send what you can afford. I wish you guys the best of luck and have a great life with your ladies.
Nice one mate
@@MichaelMitchell-ks5it the very best of luck to you and your girlfriend.
i helped a girl through the pandemic, not much, but enough to pay her room in bangkok and eat. she was working in a salon and attained her advanced hair design cert in that time. after the pandemic i went back to see her again and went to her province. i had already met her family first time. they didnt have much but whatever they had i got my share. memories i will always treasure. it was a win win situation. we traveled all over thailand together from chiang rai to phuket. when i came home it sunk in that she was 6000 miles away, too far. i said goodbye in january this year. i dont regret a thing
Mate that's a great experience and fair play to you. Thanks for sharing your story with us
@@Buzzinpattaya cheers mate. i will be in thailand over xmas and new year again hopefully so if i actually make it to pattaya this time i will call to have a beer or two and say hello
... well done. Good Karma to you !
I maintain relationship with 4 girls from my Pattaya trips. 3 bar girls and 1 general retail worker. Retail worker earns far less than the other bar girls but expects the least and shows she seems to appreciate any tip i send the most.
Nice one mate
Firstly, Trev much respect. Secondly my Thai girl has been my survivor story for many years. So gifted and incredibly charming. I do not no what I would do in this world without her constant care. She is brilliant and beautiful and my explanation to some is you just can't define love easily. And if your not Thai it is so difficult for ferangs to understand. You really have to understand our generous and welcoming life. Never lose faith in love. Never underestimate the lack of this also.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated thank you
I delete the line app and throw out the sim card when leaving bangkok. When I get home I put my vacation phone back in my safe until next trip!
Nice one mate
Very smart man.
Don't ever think the Thai boyfriend always runaway!! He more likely sharing the money your 'darling' is getting from you. You will meet him. Introduced as her brother or moto driver. They all in your pocket!!! He bangs her when you not around.
Gotcha mate
Hi Trev I have lived here over 10 years, I support a Thai lady and her son, the difference is she lives with me so no sponsor’s money. My first and only trip to her Mothers who sadly passed away last year started of with the ‘trolley dash’ round Tescos in Isaan. No problem I didn’t mind buying stuff for her Mother not realising there was the family with a second trolley behind me stacked up ! I spent a few days up there but was paying for everything, fuel for the truck, meals etc. I learnt my lesson very quickly, the family thought they were quids in, I did send Monet her Mother before she passed now and again but not on a regular basis, usually 3000 baht.
Each to their own but why send money to some one when you are not even in the country, I have heard and witnessed all the stories people losing everything and having to leave Thailand, yep loves blind as they say more so in Thailand.
Fair one mate
Rule 1: Never send money.
Rule 2: Follow Rule 1.
Don't be a mug. Do you send the scooter or car rental company money every month until you return while someone else takes it for a ride? Just pay for play when you are in Thailand.
Lol Rule No 3 don't forget Rules 1.and 2
@@Buzzinpattaya lol, or Rule No 3: "As above."--
Rule 1: Never send money.
Rule 2: Follow Rule 1.
Rule 3: As above.
If there was a 4th rule as well, then it probably would look like this:
Rule 1: Never send money.
Rule 2: Follow Rule 1.
Rule 3: As above.
Rule 4: Are you not listening?
Some people never listen on till it’s to late 🤣
Yes we all have a heart, but some don't have a brain. STOP SENDING MONEY
Gotcha mate
Great "walk and talk" vid Trev really enjoyed it thanks. I met my only "regular" Thai girl two days before leaving after my 1st two week millionaire trip 10 years ago. After a return visit six months later I started to send her £100 a month (about 5,500 Baht back then) and continued sending it for the best part of five years. I was beginning to question if I was sending her enough until I was sat in a mates bar and saw a sign in Thai the only bit of which I understood was 4000 Baht, he explained they were advertising for staff and that was the wage plus accommodation and food. I never resented sending the money as I could afford it and it helped her get out of the bars and subsidised her when she was working as a steel erector (no euphemism there) in Bangkok. Good point you made at the end Trev, never send more than you can afford and don't let the wife back home find out 🤨
Cheers mate and thanks for sharing your experience with us
614 comments. You've hit gold with this one Trev. I've been coming 15 yrs and never considered sending a girl money until now when I live here. Now I am in a position to know what I want and if I have chosen well.
Guys should never ever send a girl money unless they intend to come and live here with them. Even then 95% of those initial relationships will fail.
Enjoy the holiday. Go home save for the next or better ... building your retirement fund to come here and live.
Just my thoughts.
Haha cheers mate much appreciated
Many of these actors have multiple farang sponsors as well as a Thai boy friend, if you go to Thailand just play the game and don't fall in love.
Gotcha mate
This video should be should be distributed to every newbie who arrives in Thailand.
Cheers mate
If you walked down a street and got mugged you aren’t going to return the next night. If a store sold you bad products you don’t return. So why should you do it with women?.
Nice analogy
Because each woman is a different street and a different store
Important subject, Trevor. You explained it very well. I'm really generous locally, but I would never send money. Even without addressing it, my various companions felt it and I have never been specifically asked about it.
Cheers mate
I have traveled for many years in Latin America. Mexican girl asked me money, Dominican girl asked for money, Brazilian asked for money.. . It is not specific to Thai. It is specific to girls that see you as a sponsor. Very easy to say I love you on WhatsApp and getting monthly salary for just words. Bottomline I learned for years is that if you want a decent girl you need to live in the country whichever country it is.
100% agree. As girls end up having multiple sponsors and you just end up being used like a fool.
Cheers mate much appreciated
This has been going on for decades now, it's more than enough time for people to wise up!
Gotcha mate
Yeah each to their own, although honestly be very careful about sending money consistently.
For birthdays or special occasions no problem.
But only if you know them a long time.
Personally I wouldn't do it, only because I lived there before and it was a very big eye opener.
Well said
Been there done that. If you are serious about a long distance relationship it is OK to send gift money for birthday as a gift but that's the only exception
Hi Trev. Good work with the videos, especially re the “pay Girl money”. I am like you and see a good heart in these girls/ladies. They are human and some have had a horrendous time. Especially after starting work in bar etc. I ignored the 3-day rule as I am not made the other way. But for me I feel better as this latest lady seems pretty genuine. I know she is in the bar and the reality is that she has customers. That lessens the financial responsibility for me. Anyway, I always look forward to her Line messages. My girl has family: a 4-year-old child, grandparents looking after her kid, and she is the main/only bread winner. Such pressure for a young person. As she is young, who am I to deny her the right to look nice - makeup - have some good times with her friends in bar, and sometimes out of the bar. Almost every day she is with me all day, and we seem to enjoy each other company. Maybe she is a good actress, but I think there is some genuineness to the situation. On my previous trip, I met a very young P4P girl. I bonked her and she gave up the bar work because she could not handle the sex. So, she got a factory job in BKK. I did help her, but not anymore as I have the new girl. I am just saying the bar work is not the best for the ladies, and it is in reality the Thai social security system. Even in Australia, the social security is now being found out to be pretty ordinary. Some of the girls thrive in the bar work, but I have met many who do not and give it up. Some are actually quite intelligent, and one lost her pre Covid work in a white collar job in a Thai company that went bust; so what did she do? Go to the Thai social security system and work bar. But only for a short time as she could not handle it. Some bad girls get a sponsor, good on them. They work the system. No good really. Us guys have to be wary, but in the end, even with bad girls, we should only pay what is comfortable for us. The rule is to not get too hooked and extend oneself too much in giving them support. I think a lot of guys do get hooked and do not look after themselves enough. That is the bottom line; take care of yourself, then you can give a little to help the bar girl.
Thanks mate much appreciated
The answer Trevor is send zero,nowt,nada. I have been coming to Pattaya for 40 years. Never fallen for the me love you long time darling. Immune to it all. I treat them with respect unless i am disrespected. In closing all bar girls are Dentists,They are in the extraction business 😂
Gotcha mate thank you
Don't send money, or give money to these women. Why is it that when an English man in England meets a younger, sexier than him girl, and she wants to have a relationship (arrangement) with him. But she wants regular payment he'll immediately think "hang on a second, this girl doesn't want to be in a relationship with me, she's wanting to get paid, SHES A HOOKER" But when faced with exactly the same situation in Thailand an Englishman's brain doesn't work properly. Instead of interpreting the same information in the same way he somehow comes to the conclusion "I've found myself a lovely girlfriend". Can anybody explain this to me because I'm really not getting it.
Gotcha
Helping a single mom is helping her kids. That to me is a good thing. Helping with the problems of the extended family is optional.
Gotcha mate
Bad idea! One time I saw a girl in an Internet cafe in Southeast Asia with about SIX guys on her screen! She was talking to each one. Each guy didn’t know about the others! She was asking for money! They do this in BULK! More money that way. They end up making a lot of money! Per month. Why just go with one sucker! When you can have a bunch of suckers! It’s ALL about the money! They view us foreigners as walking ATM machines. So many guys out there fall for this racket. Because they are lonely and/or can’t get a girl on their own. Especially in their own country. In other words……desperation! And these girls prey on that! Sure, if you are in Thailand you can possibly meet one girl that you end up really liking and then maybe have a relationship. Maybe. Just remember too though, if you ever get married to her you will also be marrying her entire family! 😂😢
Sadly it happens
Not sending money is a good test. If she throws you away she was never into you in first place.
Your not much use in Thailand then are you...
Spot on
@@kal77uk Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
I know a couple of girls from previous trips. Occasionally i'll sent a few bucks however I always get asked for more which I just ignore.
It's always never enough
The way things are going in the UK we’ll be asking Thai ladies to send us money and Africa to have red nose days etc to raise funds and send aid! However, I always tell Thai people that most farang are not rich. We have to work and save up for a holiday then return home and pay bills etc.
Sounds worrying
You aren’t wrong there.
To add, also sometimes these girls have Thai boyfriend’s already. Without letting the foreigner know this. It’s hidden. So then they try and get money from the foreigner anyway. Why not! Good source for cash. When he is in his own country. I have seen this too happen to guys.
So true
Having listened to your comments, Trev, I have come to the conclusion that I am that cold-hearted, tight-fisted git you described. Definitely a case of out of sight out of mind. In other words, a proud Yorkshireman!!
Hahaha brilliant mate
Trev, I agree with you.
But I would like to add, asking for money is one thing, but to play unfair is something else - lying/scamming for economical gains is not a moral thing to do.
Fair shout mate
Traveling for 22 years. My take is that calling a female your girlfriend is false hope. If you don't live in the country, she not yours. I slept with more than a few girls that speak of their Western boyfriend, who sends her a little money every week. Most men go to Thailand once or twice a year and truly believe the girl doesn't sleep with other men, even though she text you every day while you're back home. Kings do whatever makes you feel good, but there are many men that have trouble paying their rent, mortgage or other bills, because they think she is faithful to him or even if she is, you're sending money to someone that you see twice a year. If you retire or take residence in Thailand that's a different story. But do you.
Gotcha
I have to say, that second sentence is a pretty bold statement. You are basically saying that calling any of the four billion some odd “females” on the planet a girlfriend is a bad idea? But perhaps you meant to say "females in Thailand". Still, you are right about the fact that long-distance relationships in general rarely work out, and probably even less so when those women are from Southeast Asia. It is also true that the vast majority of men who send money to Thai women while they are away living in another country do not know these women well enough to be sure they are being true. And if that Thai girl happens to be a current or former sex worker then the odds are indeed slim that she does not have other men on the hook as well.
If you don't live in the country, she is not yours 💯. Absolutely. Financing someone you date 2 times a year is paying for dreams.
I've assisted a few ladies over the years as I have with people here in NZ and Australia. A lot of people need help and I don;t mind assisting where I can BUT when they try and take kindness as a weakness I pull the plug. I have had all the dead buffalo crap and all that goes with it and at times (I don't believe a word of it) but I have helped anyways as I felt a little sorry for them, The whole point is guys just be real and don't be afraid to say NO as enough is enough at those times especially if it puts pressure on youself.
Your a genuine and top man Al, and it's a pleasure and honour to be able to call you my friend
Cheers my mate
I love thé girls you meet on TF who ask for money before they even get a reply from you 😂. However I have sent money to girls I know and know I will meet again, particularly during the last few years when I couldn’t travel there but stayed in regular contact. For awhile these ladies were my social network and we chatted a lot and helped each other stay sane. They had no income whereas I had too much so I had no problem sharing the wealth.
Fair one mate
Have your fun when you are in Thailand, but don't fall for the hard luck stories players will play etc etc
Indeed mate
Hi Trev and team, I am very interested in the comments this video may generate as putting a Thai girl on a monthly salary has a lot of pros and cons. Many may say never do it and it is ruining it for everyone else and actually driving up the prices. Others who can afford it will see no harm in it. But from my perspective, if you are willing to pay a monthly salary at whatever thousands of baht, you should also be ready to accept that others are probably funding your girlfriend also, so be prepared for that disappointment.
Absolutely mate
Agree on that. The most beautiful top notch freelancers have multiple sponsors, Instagram followers and sometimes even condo and car payed from sponsors. Not only european. Many rich Koreans even have their mistress Mia Noi in Thai.
Okay, I’m a bit confused once again. Why is everyone talking as if all girls in Pattaya are bar girls or freelancers? The title of the video simply uses the word “girl” not “bar girl” so why all the assumptions? When I lived in Pattaya I dated department store girls, hotel workers, beauticians, realtors, etc., etc. So, if a comment is meant to refer specifically to bar girls and freelancers it might be a good idea to mention this fact in the comment to avoid confusion. When I hear the word “girl” or “Thai girl” I don’t automatically assume that we are talking about sex workers, and neither should anyone else.
Still, as long as we are now clearly on the subject of bar girls I would have to agree that its generally not a good idea to send them money as there is a definite statistical likelihood that she will be getting money from other men as well. There are plenty of exceptions to this rule of course, but unless you are exceptionally good at reading people you will never know for sure who you are dealing with and how she really feels about you.
As for sending money to a regular Thai girlfriend while you are living apart, that is totally up to you and your circumstances. Personally, I never gave any money to any of my past Thai girlfriends over the past 30 years and they never asked - although obviously I paid for all our living expenses when we lived together. Still, since some of these girls were from poor backgrounds I’ve started feeling a bit guilty lately about the fact that I never offered to help them out by giving them money to help out their families (I'm sure they wanted to ask but were afraid I would think they were only after money). And maybe this is why I decided to help out my current girlfriend even though she never asked me to do so. You see, I live in Phuket but she attends college up north and since that college is a 90-minute drive from her parent's house she has to have her own apartment. Anyway, I thought I would take some of the burden from her parent’s shoulders by taking over paying her modest rent and food. It would be MUCH cheaper for me of course if I would just move up there to be with her like she wants me to but I just like living in Phuket too much and I could not stand living in a place like Isan. So she stays with me during school breaks and I take trips up there when I can - at least until she graduates and can move down here. I’m sure some of you might be wondering why I don’t simply find a girlfriend down here. Well, the answer is that its just not that easy to find a really fun-loving girl who is in the top one percentile of beautiful Thai women and who can speak English without any detectable Thai accent and who genuinely believes that she is in love with you. Finding truly genuine girls here is just such an exhausting and time-consuming process that when you finally do find one you want to stick with her.
Guess no right or wrong if you have no expectations…I do believe the more ‘sent’ money the less eager they are to work as a Buzzette
True that mate
You need to be careful, it can be death by a thousand cuts. I had a Thai GF and I didn't give her a salary but I sent her money when she 'needed it' but there were times when she would lie about what she needed, and it turns out the money was going on alcohol and not the broken bike tyre or whatever. Plus you never know what these girls are up to when you are home.
If a lady has a child with you or you have immediate plans to live together either in Thailand or in your home country (within 6 months say) or get married, you absolutely should support her. But those are the only scenarios in which I would do so again, having had my fingers burnt once.
Yeah always be careful
some of us can't even recover.....
for ever
The bar scene is never going to get back to normal if the girls are making easy money online.
Do not delude yourself, if you are sending a girl money, 10 other guys are doing the same.
If you want to have fun in Thailand in the bar scene with perfect 10's instead of 6's STOP being a SIMP and understand that it's a business.
Gotcha mate
heya Trevor sorry to add to your work load. you picked a hot topic today.
chatted with a girl who asked for money a few times told her i don't even know how to send.
(which i actually don't) ended up ghosted. don't visit her anymore when i'm over there.
have 3 ladies that i chat with now. 2 are friends 1 is a working girl who even though i told can't send still chats. will visit her next time back.
All good mate and thanks for sharing your experience with us
You talked a lot about the "good" girls of Pattaya and their mindset. It was unfortunate you skipped the whole subject about the women who have many boyfriends and requesting money from all of them and saying I love you and only you. Many women know they will only look sexy for so many years and will do anything possible to get as much possible and if that means lying its a lot coming from their family to say collect the money. In your comments you left a lot out regarding the narrative.
To be honest have done two videos talking only about the scams they can pull
Listetn...
No girl move from an Eesan village and move here to Pattatya just for fun, or to find their "farang BF of their life! Please understand and LEARN thai culture!
Short time or long time, doesnt matter. Here in Pattaya Its ALL ABOUT a money transaction between two adults and nothing else. You "get in" and " get out" and thats it! They happy, you happy - just deal with it and move ON.
If you want to find "long term LOVE" - PLEEEEEASE dont look for it here in Pattaya. You will get destroyed financially AND personally.
Thank you
Can quit all talk about Pattty now :)
Cheers mate
With the low season already on, this video couldn’t have been more well timed. I don’t know if others send money, but I change my WhatsApp and line status to “money no hab” during the low season. Works like a rat repellant, always.
True man. I always keep contacts of most girls, and the ones who ask for money when I'm back home, are the ones who I will start to ignore. Met a great girl last year who I ended up LLT for about 8 days. We still talk a few times a week but she never asked me a penny, doesn't complain about life, etc. She'll see me back in October for sure.
Love that status lol
🤣 “money no hab” , instead of, "money no *have* ',' I luv it.🤣
Rat repellant.😆
🐀🐀🐀🐀
@@EclecticBe4tz good strategy buddy. I have had one of these types of girls that you’re talking. She too used to keep things simple and straightforward. But a farang married her. When you’re done with her, you can pass on her details to me lol. These types are rare to find these days. Enjoy man
Nice video trev, its very easy to get caught up especially first timers and breakdown of marriage in own country. They make you feel and how they treat you can easily full in love. My big concern is trust but i got burnt in my own country.
Absolutely
Its insane to pay someone not to sleep with other men!
And even that comes with no guarantee 😅
They still do anyway
But it happens
@@Buzzinpattaya would you?
I was once in Patters on a hot afternoon, waiting at an ATM behind a most beautiful Thai lady and her not-so-beautiful mother, watching while the young lady produced 6 separate ATM cards and withdrew cash from each one. The mother had a little notebook and was making notes to keep track of cards and amounts. I was getting worried they might be emptying the thing. 6 mugs losing money every month, for what? She'll be back at the gogo (or whatever) again in the evening, looking to attract mug no. 7 (not the mother, the other one). Not me. I was definitely a "butterfly" when I was there (or "airport"), but tipped generously, more so if I had a better-than-average time, and that was it. They left happy enough. Don't get drawn in to the boyfriend scam. It's a total mugs game, and if she gets her hooks into you you could easily get taken for an ever-more-expensive ride.
Sadly I am not surprised
Just my opinion: ANYONE that sends money to a 'single' girl in Pattaya is complete fool. They collect foolish 'Sponsors'. If you are married to a Thai woman and you send her money - that is understandable.
Gotcha mate
I don't understand why anyone would send money to a bargirl. I also don't understand why someone would "Date" a bargirl more than once in Pattaya. You literally have thousands of women to "Date" before you would need to circle back around. 😮 Now any man that can "Date" every girl in Pattaya in a months holiday then I would say he is a hell of a man and I wouldn't dare try to tell him anything. 😂🎉
Seriously though IMO the men sending money to these girls are the ones that need mental and financial counseling.
Thousands do mate
Simping is always a bad idea. You might as well just throw the money out the window quite literally. It might actually do some people on the ground below some good. More good than you'll get sending it some woman halfway around the world.
Haha sad but true
This is a really simple one for me - if it’s your wife/girlfriend (real and you believe you are in a meaningful loving relationship) then you send a reasonable amount of money. If it’s a bar girl, who is still working then you are a mug if you send money and she is using you. Just remember the reason the bf’s are so high and charges so high now is because of people sending silly money to the girls from afar! Having lots of money is not a reason to spend it on being conned!
Gotcha mate
You know Trev, for someone who says they've been living here for over 10 years, you've really learnt nothing about the shallow & toxic Thai/Farang relationship culture. Now for anyone reading this that wants to hear the truth from someone who's been coming here for 23 years & living here fulltime for 15 years; Don't even think about entering into a full time relationship with a Thai female. As soon as she gets a sniff that your money supply may be drying up, or she simply finds another dumb farang that she thinks has more money than you, she will either leave you or "two time" you, with the other farang. Regardless of how long you both have been together. Remember, relationships here are not built on love, they are built on money. Anyone who tells you otherwise is simply lying, or just plain naive. Peace.
He just shills for the bars and anything that perpetuates their money train.
@@MrDobberdude You are right brother. It's just so obvious.
Hell yeah. No shit sherlock!
It's a shame you think and feel the way you do as I have seen the other side and yeah of course there are thousands of horror stories but you just need to stay ahead of the game
@@Buzzinpattaya Lol. Just don't run out of money mate. Otherwise you'll get a reality check, big time.
i'm generous when i'm there in person because its an equal value exchange. but i would never send money...
Gotcha mate
I agree.
Can't save the world. Unless you are personally prepared to marry her there and then and rescue her. So sending money is not an option if you don't have that commitment. Don't worry, she will find another 😅
Gotcha mate
why throw money away,,, you are probably one of many who is sending money ,,,,,,keep your money until you are here then you can spend it and have some return for your hard earned money
yes yes and yes ! Save your money and get hands on,not this online nonsense
100%
Yeah you nailed it
Hey Trev , funny how the Thai girl never seems to ask about your mother or father 😲but wants you to take care of her mother and father 😲
Hahaha that's a given
Give money if you feel the need to do it when you're in Thailand, but never set up a monthly subscription, in the end you will just feel like scammed
Got it mate
Up to you. But I wouldn’t do it. Know a friend of mine who gave money to a girl every month for two years. And extra when he came on holidays. He got married to her and brought her and son back to live with him in his own country. That lasted for a 3 years and she went off with another follow. She then tried to take everything off him including his house in court. Thank god the judge was on his side. Ok she got a few thousand but not what she wanted. Cost a lot of money aswell for a Thai divorce. The judge took that into account aswell. As I said. It’s up to you
Wow mate, that's good the judge was on his side
Helping a Thai girl “within reason’ is a lot less expensive than the 4.5 years of Alimony I payed to an Ex in the states that never worked. Remember, if you are giving money, you are in control, not the person receiving it. If she asks for too much you can say, “I can’t give you all of that but I can help you with some of it.
Indeed
Always a good laugh with your tours. 😊
Haha cheers mate
Simple. This is a BUSINESS for the ladies. Do not EVER put out money unless there are SERVICES RENDERED. Free cash can reward sometimes bad behavior or deceit. It also raises prices (It’s a BUSINESS) for all other people. Having a heart is one thing, but it’s a business and free money just kills off the supply chain
Totally agree. Been there. Done that. Never make the same mistake twice. Doh!
Gotcha mate
"Services rendered". 😁
Thanks for taking us on a stroll, love the walkabouts:)
Glad you enjoyed
Got to say most of them do have Thai boyfriends
Indeed
Sorry Trevor if i am in Patts I pay. At home i am saving to come back. Over 20 years ago before Wise etc I sat in a bar when the postman came and girls got blueys with cash from multiple sponsors. I vowed never to get in that position. Trevor prefer the bar behind your music bar, great American guy and good crowd.
Hope ya get back soon mate all the best
Thai women are lovely easily to fall for ,long distance relationships sounds so stressful,I would have to move over or bring her over here ,or if moneys not a problem give her a one off payment and wish her a good like leave it at that ,enjoyed the video anyway mate 👍
Gotcha mate
Sending money abroad to a Thai lady you met on a 2 week holiday to Thailand is a bad idea, unless she is bringing up your baby.
Wow
Send nothing but obviously if you get one pregnant and she keeps it then you should pay money, just like you would in the uk.
Gotcha
Had a girl ask me to send money a week ago. Said it was for rent. Told her no, she dropped me on social media. Way I look at it, there's countless more just like her. No reason to get hung up on one or the other. I'm gonna still give her a go when I get back. Bet she'll still take a few dollars for ST.
I'm sure she thinks the same, hence the drop.
She sure will.
Fair one mate
Never send money. They get loads of sponsors
Many
I did ask a thai person about the child support program. She said they have to hire a lawyer and go to court but the court doesn't forced the guy to pay. Thailand doesn't have a tax system like western countries
Takes years
Maybe she shouldn't have had a kid to begin with . . . ?
I don't believe that, necessarily, but I'm offering it as an alternative view.😉
I knew a TG who had a baby with a falang, that falang found out and wanted nothing to do with them, no problem she convinced another falang it was his kid and now he is paying for the original falang's kid.
The Gally I met must of been buying sick water buffalos cause she was on her third water buffalo in three months 🤣
Lol
Never send these girls money. Never fall in love with these freelancers and bar girls. You will always regret later.
Gotcha mate
money or no money they seen to get by never heard of a thai girl staving to death
Guys please factor in payments for..
Girl's father needs money for 10 cans of Leo a day stops his depression.
Girl's mother has chronic back pain which stops when money comes into the house everyday
Most parents have sickly Roosters that need money for special daily food.
Parents must have money to run top of the range all terrain special black color pickup truck.
After a while pick up trucks need new fancy glitzy wheels with new tyres.
The family Buffalo is always sick and needs vet care.
The family grandfather is only mid 60s and only drinks a bottle of whisky a day all has to be paid for.
The family grandmother again mid 60s keeps happy on YaBa pills she has been addicted to for years. The daughter gives money to by pills.
The family driver come handyman mid 30s Muay Thai fit needs a monthly salary. His real job is cock lodger who stands in and services the daughter when Farang is not around.
All members of the extended family like gold chains et al - they expect new gold on birthdays and Songkran.
Back to the stand in Cock Lodger he can keep out of site as long as he gets monthly stipend - Song Moon - 20,000 Thai Baht which helps keep him in the local gym or snooker club all day.
Not done yet other costs to consider - new TV - new Smartphone - money to buy food for monks and so much more.
Guys it is a happy Bi Polar world where OCD is the norm - just enjoy it while it lasts🎉🎉🎉
The only person sounding bi polar is you. Myself and many guys I know have decent relationships which have been going on for years and none of these demands have ever happened.
Hahaha indeed a need
@@keef6586 you need to get around a bit more bud.he is correct seen it so many times
Amazing Info as always Trev 🙌👏👍
Thanks mate much appreciated
My issue with those simps is, that it messes it up for the rest of us. Women now expect way more money for way less service. I understand guys are lonely, but think rational and don't be a simp.
Yeah had had a negative impact
🤣🤣🤣 Not content with sharing bar girls with dozens, maybe hundreds of other guys, but then sending them money while they're out of the country..... Insanity! 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
*Beautifully said!*
And, he wants to see many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many girls, and expects, while he is out of the country, that she will see ONLY just him: the 1 and only one person . . .And if not, she's . . . "no good" person..?😂😂😂
[buffalo][🐃[/sick buffalo]🤮
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Hi Trev, some of these girls are earning major money far more than I do. They have there sponsors then there’s OnlyFans and on top of that what they get from going with a guy. I talked to one girl who was asking 12,000 an hour and wanted payment just for talking to me online. These girls are only interested in money and we are to blame for this. A bargirl is a hooker and in your own country after going with her would you then send her money every month Lol. Just don’t do it, they don’t respect you for it they just think you are stupid.
Mate some are on 6 figures a month
Giving money is fine if she isn't with ither men ! If she is still being a prostitute and you are just one of many men she is gettmoney from thats a completely different story . And I think thats what's really happening in many many cases .
This guy is making it sound like the women are innocent little women , they are Hustlers Professional Hustlers thats facts .
Gotcha mate
But I still can't wait for my first visit to Thailand and I will definitely stop by your new bar . Keep up the good work
Simple Test: Send money as a charity gift. Then stop sending money. See where you stand in this relationship. Good Luck!
Gotcha mate
life is tough for everyone.........DONT send money.......these girls are clever and know how to squeez money out of the falang........you got to be cruel to be kind......
Gotcha mate
Another well done video, informative and interesting.
Glad you think so thank you
I'm generous while in the country, but when I'm back home, I don't send anything. One girls I'd send only on her birthday. She's now married and lives in Australia. That's the only time. One I had text me out of the blue for 5,000 baht. I told her I lost my job.5 or 6 days later she text me for 5,000 baht again. I asked her, what do I look like and she replied "555". I was on her call log. Kinda like the telemarketers. This person I hang out with now never asks for anything. When get ready to go home, she says. No, this is too much. Trevor walked past the shop she works in this video. I'm thinking he made his walk around 9:30am
Fair one mate
I have a Heart, but I also have a Brain. I've visited Pattaya many times and I was just there last month. The ladies of Pattaya are highly efficient at extracting money from foreign guys. If you are visiting Pattaya, please do yourself the favor and spend liberally, you only live once. But do not send any lady you've met in Pattaya money from overseas, it's a recipe for disaster and these ladies won't be satisfied with just one foreign guy sending her money. You catch my drift???
Well said
Simple, my thai wife has degree, no kids , good dalary and career. No need send anything we work as a team, shes just paid for us to go singapore for 4 nights. There are other alternatives.
Nice one mate
Sending money is a terrible idea unless she has YOUR child. I've met plenty of girls in Pattaya, I take them to 5 stars hotels, pay for everything, etc. None of the girls has asked me to send them money despite all of them having my LINE and knowing I make good money.
They find people they know are easy to use. They call me to go out, we have fun but they know not to ask me to send money.
Must be handsome man
Fair one mate
@@eugenebooth2467 💲💲 *ching* 😅
@@paulmillward7009 yeah, he handsome man. 🤣
Not sure I believe him .maybe their were all deaf and dumb
I do not understand this logic BUT voice phising scams are multi billion dollar industry so does sending money to Thai women. Guys-there are 5-6K women in Pattaya ready to serve you as long as you have baht. As a test, tell her you ran out of money for 3 months and see how she reacts on LINE or Skype.
These phisting scams can be horrible.😮✊
Gotcha mate
@@JohnstonPettigrew yeah sucking millions out of seniors believing someone on the phone. Just sick how they operate.
I think it is wise to just have fun In Pattaya. Do not share contact details. You are just asking for trouble by handing out your Line number to every bar girl. If you need to keep in touch with the girl of your dreams then yes, get a new Email with a really easy BLOCK feature.
Good advice mate
I send them my thoughts and prayers :D
By airmail? Lol
@@Buzzinpattaya My Jesus First Class Miracle lol
Well the fun thing is we all have big hearts at times in life
True
if you want to have a girl in Thailand you need to live in Thailand , full time .
It helps
Great video injoy watching it..😊👍📹
Thank you 👍
I don’t have an opinion on this Trev. Each to their own. Whatever makes someone happy.
I did think you were very clever starting your video with a yellow Komatsu in the background. Yellow (gold) Komatsu (digger) perhaps? Very subtle mate 😊. Good video. 👍
Fair one mate
I felt sympathy for 2 girls who I became too close. One found a boyfriend just a week before I came after I had sent at least £800 over several payments. I later found out she was seeing the bar manager/ owner and when I did arrive she was a completely different lady possibly hardened from the work she was doing. Another time I thought I had met a female friend who I seemed to get along with very well with no hanky panky. Kept on asking for money and when I first met her was having a baby in a couple of months. Since then I gave her at least 1300 over one and a half years. When I went to Pattaya I told her I am a butterfly and it might be she had expectations of something more but I wasn't interested in this and told her before I came. During the time I was in Thailand, she saw me 3 times during the day but was partying Insomnia several nights. I got back to Scotland and was stupid enough to give her a little bit more money but after my experience with her and the other girl, I will never give money again. In short, if you meet the right girl it might work out but I feel you are treated like a mug by most
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated and yeah as you said, it's a hard situation at times
1st thing I did 8.5 years ago was agree to 10,000 baht a month to live on the farm, it works and I don't pay for lady drinks, no bar fines and no money in the morning and the cost of those 3 things is alot more expensive than 8.5 years ago.
We spend 4 months a year together then I come back to England to sell icecreams and she goes back to the farm.
It works for us and 10,000 is reasonable.
No probs mate
Ahhhh mate, she goes back to the farm eh!
@@SatansMinion1974 yes for 9 years and our relationship works, vidio call every day, I talk to mum, aunts, brothers, sisters, daughters even the cats and the pigs, look at weed plants....
What's your story?
Why do western men do that. I will not get involved with a woman until I am there full time. It's crazy that these simps will (sponsor) send money when these women have 10 other men doing it as well.
Many do matr
Thanks for the video Trev. When you walk down a Soi or ally down to the beach, please give us a quick view of it. Some of us live in the prairies. Lol
Lol.okay mate will do
Very philosophical and diplomatic today Sir. I would say that it's rare for a sponsor to marry and live happily ever after. Sponsoring in absenteeism is probably like being in a lottery 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks mate and yeah I get what you say
Have heard stories where parents tell boy to get daughter pregnant so they can get her to send money home for child care and also ask for more as well. Personally i save all year to pay for my holiday i spend money on girls and am reasonably generous within my means, but only over my holidays then i have to restart my savings for next trip. I have 1 month there i know she will find another guy once i leave and i will not be there for 11 months so who knows where she will be or how many guys she has lined up. I just come for relaxing fun time do not need someone trying to run my life and taking as much money as they can while I'm there or trying to guilt me when i am home.
Wow
If you marry a Thai girl and both relocate to the UK, it's 10 times easier to earn money here than there so we subsidise the family in the village. It's also a good way of injecting new money into the rural economy which I think helps everyone that money touches.
Nice one mate
Yeah, but you shouldn't have to pay for poor money management of that family, and you personally shouldn't be the only (or even perhaps main) provider in your union, or else you are in an unequal relationship.
Why do people think they have to subsidise their partners parents, afraid of losing the partner I would say.
@@jamie1944 It depends on each case of course. On a basic level, it would take many hours of hard manual labour to earn what we can earn in a very short time in the UK so it absolutely makes sense for us to lighten the load and help out.
What planet are you on? A Tory one obviously! There a food banks in the UK, high energy prices, grocery inflation, average salary is around £28,000 yearly.
I've mailed funds via Western Union money order for support of UA-cam Live Streams. Particularly for everyday costs; i.e. cleaning supplies, electrical and other utilities to keep the place up and occasionally send enough to also include food for the bar girls and that special lady's birthday. On average probably $60.00USD every once in awhile.
Good heart mate
@@Buzzinpattaya Thanks 👍 Cheers