I drove the 2024 Toyota Tacoma MANUAL Off Road!
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- A long time in coming, MotoMan finally gets behind the wheel of the all new for 2024@toyotausa Tacoma! However, being the special occasion that this opportunity is, he takes the new @TOYOTAglobal Tacoma off road. In the process, he learns about the Toyota Tacoma's torque delivery from the new 2.4 Turbo 4 and goes a step further by taking the Toyota Tacoma with the manual transmission off road. While there, he demonstrates the other huge change to the Toyota Tacoma, the significantly stiffer ladder frame which transforms how the new Toyota Tacoma performs both on road and off road . . .
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I enjoy driving manual transmission vehicles
It makes me happy
The giant screen and tall shifter look pretty cool together
I got the SR, 4x4 6spd for 38500k, it's fun to drive used savings on upgrades, skid plates, running boards etc etc
I LOVE ❤ Manual Transmissions! HARNESS ALL THE TORQUE!!!
Finally, I've been waiting for these reviews.
By the way, I really enjoyed your intro.
Thank you, Alex . . . been shaking things up lately.
My main issues are 2 fold with these small trucks ,it includes ,Nissan Frontier, Toyota Tacoma ect, is the poor mileage for 1 , I mean I have a Ford f150 4x4 it has the 2.7 turbo and averages around 20 mpg and with the larger fuel tank i can go 600 miles on a tank, towing i can go 400 miles, thats nice to have , My last Nissan averaged 15 mpg and I currently have a 2022 tacoma 4x4 that averages about 17.5 mpg and goes about 275 miles on a tank, I would like to see if. Nothing else, a extended range fuel tank because if i tow with my toyota I go about 150 to 200 miles and have to fill up vs 400 in my f150 ,so please add a bigger fuel tank so the trucks have more range since the mileage probably wont change ,another 10 gallons of capacity would help a lot
Sweet. Love thwe manual
Great review as always.
Nice watch.
Thank you . . . Finally added that one to the collection after looking for years.
The jury is still out on this. Good vid. Thanks
I’ve been waiting to see your first drive review. Great collaboration with @TFLTruck BTW. This truck is going to continue to be the benchmark in the mid size truck market. I currently daily a 4Runner, but may trade it for an iForce Max Tacoma TRD OR next year while I wait for the 6th Generation 4Runner to be released.
Wait until you see the new 4Runner. Especially the TRD Pro. But I didn't say nuttin'.
@@MotoManTV Now that’s a tease!
If you buy a new car after 150,000 mikes or so, I bet thst you will like the 6th gen 4Runner. If you keep your cars for a long time, then you had better keep your current 4Runner.
Does the portion of the frame that is boxed have drain holes? Seems like the old Yota frame issue might happen again.
Impressive frame and suspension work. 👍🏼 16:57
Hey Gary! A bit behind the scenes. I shot our Camry (ua-cam.com/video/LEWvWiinvjk/v-deo.html) & Crown (ua-cam.com/video/GiiJ5QOz3PM/v-deo.html) episode at Zero Dark Thirty that same morning so was up at the ranch before anyone else arrived. Gave me a lot of time with the rolling chassis which ended up in this episode without anyone around more than others.
@@MotoManTV Already seen both. Keep up the great work‼️
Fabulous as usual motoman. Don’t go changin
Thanks, Joe!
First Tacoma I have actually consider getting and selling my 1997 T100 SR5 4x4 3.4v6 5speed. Bought the T100 new in 1997 fully loaded 27K after tax title and license in Tempe AZ.
Showing love to the Motoman. But exited about this truck. I wish they balanced the hybrid for more efficiency, the aim was clearly performance. I wish it was a mix
Thank you!
@5:43 This isn't a new philosophy, they just went back to their original one. The open C was to fight rust, bc the first gens fully boxed rusted so bad, see how well that worked out for them haha
They may have better products to coat the frame or have made it with different metal carbons……some metal rust much faster than others
Can you ask Sheldon why does not Toyota make part-time 4WD with a central differential (either a lockable open one or a limited-slip one) that would allow driving on non-slippery surfaces in 4L and 4H? Is it only due to cost saving considerations or to something else?
That dude is really heat testing the clutch 😃🤣
Saw that also . Wonder if the bump or jerk feel has been eliminated in low gears also. Comparing to 2018 TRD sport MT which only my son can sense but must be real or Toyota dealer would have said something other than they have it but nothing is wrong its just LASH ?
I'd probably buy this in a year or two if I can get an xtra cab with a 6mt.
Can't wait for the Pre-Runner review with 6-speed manual!
All depends on what they have in the fleet. The plan here was to shoot the 'hero' truck off road on this first drive event and then focus on other models locally. Taking our time to work through varying models on road. Most likely will shoot the Off Road models with Roman, Andre and Nathan on their ranch.
Awesome! Can’t wait to see it 🤘
I don’t think prerunner or any XtraCabs are available with the manual.
That combo wont be available.
Moving the gas tank over was definitely something the Toy needed. With the gas tank and battery on the same side as the driver, my truck developed a list on the driver side after a few years.
The fuel economy is a head scratcher. Im getting 20 mpg in my 19 Dbl Cab long bed 4x4 V6 Toyota adds a hybrid 4cyl turbo for zero gain?
Ya I know I was thinking the same that’s odd
It's about emissions, not mpg
Not for me, I want more fuel economy. Fuel prices will continue to rise I want a viable hybrid not a one trick(extra hp) pony!@@kjay5056
Great explanation!
Judging by how much the shifter moves, the motor mounts are really soft, which apparently is necessary for NVH mitigation of the (mandatory) 4-cylinder engine.
Fortunately, Andre knows how to pronounce "Bilstein" (bil-shtyne), but George clearly does not (bil-steen??? NO!).
I had a 2005 Taco Prerunner with a 2.7 four and five speed. It was an awesome truck. I wish I still had it too. I can’t afford a new one.
I suppose with the turbo, engine mods would be so much easier. Are there off the shelf tunes for the 2.4 turbo already?
Didn´t saw such a shackey gear lever in so many years... almost like it has life in itself hehe. Pity we don´t get any nice trucks here in europe. Well, at the current pace we may not get even cars but that´s a whole another topic. Looks like quite a capable vehicle off-road, must be a nice buy overall. New infotainment in toyotas is way greater than before. Finally they are up to par to most decent manufacturers.
I wonder if Toyota has solved their frame corrosion problem ? Also , I like the rear shock locations .
Hasn't been an issue in 15 years.
Is there any aftermarket solution to the manual’s rev-hang? Guessing is the rev hang and shifter feel can be addressed (with a short throw kit), the. There will be nary a complaint for potential manual buyers.
No more rear doors for the Access Cab, what are they thinking? The on board display screen is way too big and looks out of place. Eyes on the road! Glad they are still making the manual transmissions...
Crappy fuel economy.
Full size American pickups do just as well and better.
Plus, it's too expensive. $50k To get some basic off road bits.
That's 4 years of state university tuition in CA.
Just not worth it. By the time you can afford it, you're to old and cranky to use it.
Need a $25k version with some off road kit
Looks impressive - am interested to know what has more interior space: this new Tacoma or the Ridgeline?
Good question. I would say from the backseat - specifically legroom - the Ridgeline.
when you were working the dirt course it would have been nice to have a front camera. did it have a front camera and you just choose not to use it?
well “articulated” 😊👍 , awesome review!
:)
I'm going to guess pricing for the TRD Offroad at $42500 with manual transmission.
That's funny that there's still a big gap between 1st & 2nd ⚙️ with the 🆕 models That's exactly how my 2022 6-speed manual feels with the V6 😂 it feels really good off-road in 1st ⚙️ but starts to lug if you put it in 2nd... if you're on road 1st ⚙️ only revs up to about 34 mph but the truck doesn't start to pull with tq until like 42 mph but as long as it's reliable & continues to do what it does I'm not going to complain. It's 1 hella of a 🛻💨 & would NOT trade it in. That's just me tho
Pretty certain they are using a very similar transmission. 3rd gen has the RC62F. There are other transmissions in the same family in the diesel Hilux trucks that share the exact same 1st and 2nd gear cluster internally but have a different tail set gear at the rear of the transmission, which changes the ratios of 1st and 2nd but changes them proportionally. Meaning they are the exact same distance apart as the old transmission, yet the ratios are new and lower. There is a very good chance the new truck is using one of the Hilux transmissions because the first gear of the new truck (4.78 per TFL ) matches the Hilux models. Time will tell, but chances are nearly 100% that the 1-2 gap is exactly the same proportion, just lower ratios.
Appreciate the real world feedback . . . While I have driven a number of last gen Tacos and 4Runners (brother has one), most of my experience is with the auto.
Great looking truck, but does the rear window roll down? 🧡👍
Are they putting the HAC (hill-start assist control) on the TRD Offroad model? With the inability to turn off? This would be a deal breaker for me. Had it subaru, hated it luckily it could be turned off.
Locker in rear, but not up front. So does the front have brake lock functionality to simulate a locker?
Good luck finding one
Your pricing game is going to be pretty easy because all the prices were released today 😅
What’s the prices?
Also the white interior at the end, that is not pre-production, it's a feature. White, black and blue are the options.
The whole interior on both trucks were pre-production. Colors were off as well as textures.
Does the hill holding (??) clutch feature work all the time, even in 2WD/on pavement, or is that only part of some offroad type setting?
It should come with the manual transmission. It's just a software feature for the ABS system so there's no reason not to include it in all manual trucks.
What color was that Tacoma? Is it gray? Brown? Green?
Your barber here have good new for you. My prices are going up for a good reason .its call 2024 Tacoma lol
NO way! Jorge is my barber too! Small world. And a great part about getting a haircut at Jorge's is the chicken fried steak at Wendy's Place Cafe afterwards.
I'm buying a flowbee:) a.co/d/eUL5kC1
Jorge is the BEST! We get to talk about the restoration he is doing with his own two hands on his Ranchero while hanging out with his dogs.
fuel pump noise like deisel and change direct in jector to port injector
When that screen goes out it cost today $7400 to replace. I would prefer the archaic $500 screen that was in the previous Tacoma. Who needs a giant laptop in their face while they’re driving? Not me.
Just FYI, the interior trim color isn't necessarily body color. I've seen dark grey with blue trim...not great...
I don’t mind 4 cyl. If I need bigger engine I would buy tundra or American . Just wish mpg was better and manual was cheaper
23 combined for a 4 cylinder is a joke I get 21 on my 6 cylinder driving around town and it drops to 18 if I stomp on it. I’m glad I got the 22 before it was gone
I plan on buying a new Tacoma but not until 2025
Good luck
You're crazy bro if something happened to my 3rd gen Tacoma 🛻💨 I would look around for a used one with low mileage & garage kept. They really skimped out on a lot of options that used to be standard and what you do get when you option up is so damn expensive I mean when you have an options package that adds 10K to the price something's wrong... In 2022 I paid $39,280 for a poverty 📦, manual transmission TRD off-road brand 🆕 now to get an SR5 basic AF you're talking $42-45K no upgraded Bilstein suspension, no OVERSIZED rear differential with a LOCKER like my TRD off-road has. The way the rear seats fold up is goofy you have to pay extra to get the rear sliding glass, WAY more complicated than the V-6 ever thought to be. And then you downsize to a four-banger to pull around a 5000 lb truck you're really working that turbo not a good idea I've had 3 newer turbocharged vehicles from Honda 1.5L turbo civic CVT & 2019 1.5L civic Si & 2020 accord 2.0T touring!! I live in Phoenix after you get on them a couple of times they get heat soaked🌡️120°+ in the summer ⛱️🌞 turbo is a horrible Idea imo. Different climates you will have different outcomes but naturally aspirated might not do as well at high elevation but it NEVER stops working! I always told myself if I get back into a naturally aspirated vehicle I'll never touch another turbo. My Tacoma is far from perfect but it doesn't give me those stupid problems the turbo did, it's less complicated & after the OTT tune it drives much smoother with 20 hp & 25tq extra. And I got it after it had been built for about 7 years so hopefully it's pretty solid & most the issues are worked out
You get a like and a comment just for the algorithm statement.
$51k for the truck tested
I am waiting for 4Runner or Highlander in 6 speed someday. Please Toyota please !!
Oh look--Toyota built a Taco around a Jumbotron screen that’s in your face every mile you drive.
Raising the new Tacoma prices over 10%. That is going to be a disincentive. You can no longer get any kind of Toyota pickup for less than $30k. They are getting into BEV territory.
4 banger same as Lexus which is a bow wow
Tacoma’s the best.
Great job on your review! That’s the exact truck I’m getting right or wrong
Thank you . . . Hard to go wrong with a Toyota!
Also good on Toyota to offer non base trims with the 6 speed.
HUGE!
How many Tacoma drivers actually use them off-road behind gravel roads? I’d guess less than 10%
Probably a good guess and definitely way more than the percent of Subaru (or any CUV) drivers take theirs' off road.
Auto blip function ?
I have a hard time believing these turbo 4 cyl engines are gonna last vs the older N/A v6 or even N/A 4 cyl…….mainly due to all the gizmos added to these engines for fuel mileage and meeting emission standards…..I blame the government mostly
Great points, add in the pieces of garbage like Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates who are driving this electric, hybrid global nonsense. Middle finger to them all!
I wonder how many people are gonna actually get the manual
Don't see a small turbo charged 4 cylinder engine being very durable.
put a 3.0L I4 diesel in it .
No thanks I’d like my truck to go 0-60 in under 10 seconds 😂
@@matthewschinske2226 no one asked you
It’s a Truck, not a car you keep referring to ..!!!
I thought you couldn’t get a manual anymore
Bring back the V6, Ditch the Turbos... Tacoma, Tundra, 4Runner, Highlander... Leave the 2.5L platforms N\A...
Fuel efficiency isn’t about the government. Fuel cost matters!
Then why does the govt make those decisions and ridiculous requirements?
@@absolute.freedom the entire purpose and function of regulations is to keep the honest people honest.
@@Handlethis342 you're very naive. Govt regulations has 0 to do with honesty. The US govt and its alphabet soup agencies are corrupt beyond imagination.
24 back seats suck! 3rd gen is more advanced, folded down seats, and a place to put the head rests. The 24 uses a strap to hold it up. Not modern 😂
Me gustaria que lo esplicaran en español
What's andre doing in this channel lol
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Probably 1% will end up buying the manual since 90& of the driving public have no clue how to drive one. The base turbo engine is light on power IMO.
I'm guessing these will be closer to the take rate of Corollas and 911 in manual. No, not the majority but more than you think. The 911 is the king at 25%. The Corolla hatchback is a shocker at over 5%. I would say this is going to be between those two. These figures are for US sales only.
I like many things about this truck, but that massive, glossy screen sticking up out of the dash is very distracting. It looks awful.
Tacoma will not do cylinders anymore. That sucks. Screw 4 cylinder turbo or no turbo.
Don’t bash the year 1923
I don't like the Huge display screen.
Algo help
Oh my Gott 😅
So Mike Sweers got a huge promotion for screwing up the Tundra and Seqouia. Way to fail upwards.
Like all those in govt/ military who assisted in 9II...
LOVE the MANUEL thanks GOD ...Not buying ANY TURBO Engine from any dealer ....Don't Trust them even TOYOTA
Enough with these 4 cylinder engines.....
agreed, dont go below 6 cl. 3.0 litre [nEVer] 🥩🚳🏴☠
Get ready for 2 cylinders turbo era very soon!
Yah enough playing around Toyota and give our one cylinder engine already
Blame the EPA. It’s entirely their fault. A bigger N/A engine is a lot simpler and easier (cost effective) to make on the manufacturers end (and maintain on the consumers end).
To bad.
I have the 3rd gen w a 4 banger & a turbo manual. It goes w only 25 mpg combined. I dont trust anything made or assembled n the states. I only trust true jdm if it aint from japan it aint japanese!
Jdm hilux r 100% made in japan these scam packs sold n the states r going 2 make a bad rep 4 japanese cars n ull see anti Asian sentiment spike again causing sheople 2 switch back over 2 domestic only 2 get burned all over again. It's pretty personal at this point
Toyota is so far behind in their turbo motors. Ford has perfected their eco boost for almost twenty years now.
So long, engine reliability...🙄
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NO 4 cyl come on
They're all 4 cylinders, what are you talking about.
Toyota isn't the king anymore in value or capability. Hilariously over priced and in all actuality probably peaked 20ish years ago.
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Toyota/Lexus are getting uglier each year.
😅🤮
I can’t say enough about not getting the manual transmission. The automatic transmissions of today technology are super reliable and d dependable. Only about 15% of the population knows how to drive a manual transmission hiring resale big time. Off roading with a manual will be more difficult when on hill climbing and using clutch. No benefit to this transmission
Just cause you can't drive one😂
I wouldn't have purchased a 3rd gen Tacoma had it not come with a manual transmission. The single biggest reason I bought the truck. Yes, a very small minority of people do actually enjoy driving their vehicle, even their daily.
The rest are fine with appliances on wheels.
Manual does NOT hurt resale in the long run, flatout incorrect....especially on a Tacoma. In fact it's the opposite. Small/niche market = more money and more collectible long term.
The Tocoma's had an issue with gear hunting in the automatic transmissions. Just talked to an owner who has a 2023 and he hate that it is alway shifting looking for the sweet spot. I love my manual transmission. Wish 1st gear was a bit lower..
Your just like the new engines if you buy one, a pussified version
Look like a Ram!!! WTF!!! How dare they!!!
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