I want all the TRD Off-road Goodies, locking diff's, swaybar disconnect, manual transmission, BUT on an SR 2 door extracab. Literally would have sold my Bronco for that had they made one.
If car makers sold these cars direct and not through a dealer network I could get excited about these new models but knowing that the dealers are going to charge insane markups and pressure you into financing the car or buying extended warranties really ruins any excitement I have for new vehicles these days.
Not sure why you think there would be markups on the Tacoma's, a lot of dealers are starting to discount new vehicles because their lots are overflowing
Omg, this truck looks absolutely stunning! I wasn’t too impressed when they had the press release showing this new model, but if this is what the production model looks like then I’m on board. Wow! Wife’s lease is almost up on her Mercedes, gonna have to convince her to that we ( I ) need this truck 😂
Nice manual skills. I had to learn on a hill when i was 17. We called the hill top. In town, It was known for how steep and long it was. My friends dad made me go up the hill a little bit. Stop. Then go a bit again. Stop and go on the hill. Then we finally got into shifting through gears. Ever since most of my vehicles have been manual.
I'm torn tbh. I love manual, but as s 2nd shifter I do like having remote start on my trucks too warm the up before I get in. Plus occasionally driving to civilization for concerts is nicer with auto.
Its funny how you say that but it wasn’t the young generations that starting fading out the manual transmission it was you’re generation. I learned to drive manual but you guys make it seem like its some code of honor or some great achievement but in reality nobody really cares. It doesn’t make you any less of a man.
@EliasTheGreatBut the old folks arent destroying the world with nonsense, stupidity and gendr/racial bs and so much more bs that really didnt exist much prior to 2010.
Less pwr in this one, but more tq. These new ones are the same weight and not really any quicker unless you get hybrid. The 8 spd auto hunts for gears or doesnt know what gear its in in these plus if you live in warm (85° climes) you will see hotter enhone and coolant temps, as turbos create lots of heat. I can see the turbo engime being a issue in hot or humid climes.
@@08turboSS That’s not true. Also gone is the dreaded clutch fan. All new electric fans are installed for added cooling. You are wrong. These will not be overheating because of turbo. Your information is incorrect. The engine bay may get warmer, but will not make it overheat. Toyota knows what they are doing. They’ve done years of testing.
@@chaseteter I am excited for it! Not everyone needs a truck, and to me, a 4Runner with a manual transmission is the ultimate universal soldier- great reliability (not sure about the longevity of the turbo 4-cyl. Vs your 3.4L V6), fun to drive stick shift, utility, towing capacity and 4x4 capability!
Placed an order for a stick shift ‘24 Tacoma yesterday. Put down a small deposit, and was told not to waste any luck on anything in hopes that one may actually be available for me to buy. The dealership, which is a fairly large one in my area, said they had 2 stick shift Tacomas in all of 2023 and one was bought by a guy from over 500 miles away. The offer of a manual is all well and good. But, if a consumer can’t actually purchase one then what’s the point? Other than to say, “see? Nobody wants them! They’re not being sold!” When in reality they’re just not available to those that want one. I’ll wait until April or so then take my deposit back and go get a Gladiator.
Bronco is the better manual imo, it's almost sports car good. The Tacoma feels properly old school though, and is still a lot of fun if you want a bit of a throwback driving experience, which is hard to get in 2023...
Get rid of the 4-Cllylinder and I might get one Ya Right I love my 2005 Tacoma V6 4x4 and I will keep it till I die or if my truck dies, or I will rebuild it like new I would never get a truck with a 4-Cylinder ever the truck looks nice and lots of new things like the rear disk brakes but that should have been done starting with the 2005 Tacoma very late in getting the rear disk brakes and they say it gets better gas miles but I heard it has a smaller gas tank????? so much for the better gas miles :( sad days for us off-roaders and you will have to replace the turbos around one hundred thousand miles my Tacoma V6 4x4 has just got 150, thousand miles on it and not leaks or problems very happy with it I should get another 150, thousand miles out of it :) Toyota has jumped on the 4-Cylinder band wagon sad days for us Tacoma drivers and one more thing an air dam on a 4x4 how much will that cost extra just to remove it and throw it away???????????????.
I think it's a sight line thing. If you have it pop up above the dash you take your eyes away from the road less to look at it. Plus, it makes it look bigger so there's a marketing element to it.
I don't think I'm the first guy to type this but a 5-link live axle with coil springs isn't the same thing as multilink (I thought they gave full independent suspension to the Tacoma for a second there)
@@DragonKnightX12 The manual trans is stronger, less complicated, more reliable, less to maintain than the auto. Toyota is dealing with "product liability". Mainly in the form of "operator error". A lot more things can go wrong with a product when left to the operation and judgement of the owner. It' so much easier to automate everything and nothing left to the operator.
@@wlew3499 Not always case. Either one should be reliable. It's all sales. Americans by large buy Auto. Most Americans just looking for useful truck or simple transportation, doesn't want to row gears. Really only enthusiasts that buy manual in the States. Where as overseas manuals are super common. Most people in Europe learn to drive with a stick shift.
@@DragonKnightX12 You are correct in your assessment of folks wanting convenience in their drive. But take the case twist lock frt hubs and knob 4wd vs lever control 4wd. Giving control to an operator of all these analog systems he/she could destroy a modern hi-tech 4wd vehicle.. (So tune down the power .......ie less chance for destruction)
Could’ve been a much better off road illustration ! Such as a challenging hill climb & forward & reverse , moguls ( showing max clearances) from middle of truck & right side high up ,left side low down & vice, versa , a water crossing ,over top of tires , ect !
How am I getting so interested in trucks all of the sudden... maybe because most SUVS are pretending to be off road vehicles. I want this like I want a Lexus GX but in manual.
The automatic with more HP, Hybrid Max, crawl and refinement make it a hard choice to get a manual. Manual is great if you want a slower truck. I can’t pass up the more power and refinement along with the technology made for the automatic.
@@omarvargas6534I love manuals, but it’s only available in slow model. I want the Max Trailhunter. No manual in that one. I won’t settle for a slow model just to have a clutch.
@@ryanb8736 Might as well just get a V8 then. The difference in HP is negated almost entirely by the engagement of using a clutch. Nobody is buying a Taco for speed, lmao
The entire car industry and electrification is ugly. We need to start promoting good public transport and walkable cities in the US if we don’t want to be forced to have to drive them. Not ban cars, but reduce dependency on them.
It’s so refreshing to see a brand new truck being offered with a manual transmission, great review as always Chris!
I love how the Toyota Rep slowly realized you knew exactly what you were doing and weren’t just some garden-variety UA-camr 😂
Car reviewers the last 10 years: 'I just wish the screen was a little bigger'
Toyota: 'Here's a 24" computer monitor, you're welcome.'
I think toyota looked at how people were using their Tacomas off road. A lot of people genuinely used giant tablets and screens for off road maps
Too big and dangerously reflective
Modern cars are just beyond crap regarding simple task and turned it to complex
The base TRDs have much smaller screens thank god lol
@@differenttigers That's what I got - the base TRD sport with 6 speed manual... Much better...
I want all the TRD Off-road Goodies, locking diff's, swaybar disconnect, manual transmission, BUT on an SR 2 door extracab. Literally would have sold my Bronco for that had they made one.
Sarah, You can do a trans swap, no problem! Looking forward to this project!
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Seriously, 2 door pickups are the move. Crew cab trucks are all ugly to me lol
They need a 2 door this gen 😢
Tbh would be nice if all the trims could come in the extra cab, and still get all the luxury and off-road features.
The view out of this truck is insane. Reminds me of my EF hatch. So much glass. Really impressive in this era of airbags everywhere.
If car makers sold these cars direct and not through a dealer network I could get excited about these new models but knowing that the dealers are going to charge insane markups and pressure you into financing the car or buying extended warranties really ruins any excitement I have for new vehicles these days.
Not sure why you think there would be markups on the Tacoma's, a lot of dealers are starting to discount new vehicles because their lots are overflowing
@@ericd1632most dealers would rather let them rot than sell them at even a slight markup
@@ericd1632 they're definitely still doing markups and all their scammy add-ons with the new Tacomas. Especially the more premium packages.
or you could just grow a pair, learn to say no to salesmen, and buy a nice new car that you want.
@@xyeahtony1 I’m good thanks tho
Man, Toyota did a solid job with this truck. Great review and great driving
Infla mucho los cambios y arranca en segunda en ocasiones para mi no es bueno
@@miguelgallardo6265We todos los carros pueden arrancar en segunda que pedo jajaja
Omg, this truck looks absolutely stunning! I wasn’t too impressed when they had the press release showing this new model, but if this is what the production model looks like then I’m on board. Wow! Wife’s lease is almost up on her Mercedes, gonna have to convince her to that we ( I ) need this truck 😂
It's a nice vehicle. Loving the manual.
Toyota coming back with a banger.
I absolutely love that that’s offered with a manual still
I can’t wait to see the after market mods for these. Especially cosmetics.
Nice manual skills. I had to learn on a hill when i was 17. We called the hill top. In town, It was known for how steep and long it was. My friends dad made me go up the hill a little bit. Stop. Then go a bit again. Stop and go on the hill. Then we finally got into shifting through gears. Ever since most of my vehicles have been manual.
That’s the best way to do it! 🙌
Most manual car are more easy to repair and last longer... My 2011 Honda civic with close to 300K still have the original clutch and run like a new!!!
Great truck Toyota thank you for manual
I will be getting one of these!
Gabe seems like a solid dude to be out on the trail with.
I'm torn tbh. I love manual, but as s 2nd shifter I do like having remote start on my trucks too warm the up before I get in.
Plus occasionally driving to civilization for concerts is nicer with auto.
So glad to still see these come with 6 speed manual transmissions!!!!
I have a 2021 and this truck looks more smoother than my 2021
They finally put push button start in the manual model. Was the only reason I didn’t test drive one for years. Can’t wait to go to the dealer!
lol
@@lb0193🤣
6MT FTW!
Not sure what "FTW" means, but you gotta love the manual! It's the only way I'd buy it!😅
@@joeb2588For the win.
@@wingless747 thanks
The finally boss lol hell yeah. It's a part of growing up. Manual is security these days. These youngsters don't even get it.
Its funny how you say that but it wasn’t the young generations that starting fading out the manual transmission it was you’re generation. I learned to drive manual but you guys make it seem like its some code of honor or some great achievement but in reality nobody really cares. It doesn’t make you any less of a man.
It's hard to steal cars these days so people just rip and tear parts instead
He's refering to the fact that most under 30 dont know how to drive a stick amd its true, sticks just dont get stollen because they cant drive it.
@EliasTheGreatBut the old folks arent destroying the world with nonsense, stupidity and gendr/racial bs and so much more bs that really didnt exist much prior to 2010.
Chris, Let's hope Toyota's renewed commitment to a manual Tacoma heralds the return of a manual 4Runner and mini Land Cruiser FJ. 😉
That would be awesome!
@@TheTopher 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Manual most likely in 4runner due to using the same engine.
Glad they put a better engine with more power and torque in these. It needed it bad because the V6 was a slug.
Is that a good or bad thing
Less pwr in this one, but more tq. These new ones are the same weight and not really any quicker unless you get hybrid. The 8 spd auto hunts for gears or doesnt know what gear its in in these plus if you live in warm (85° climes) you will see hotter enhone and coolant temps, as turbos create lots of heat. I can see the turbo engime being a issue in hot or humid climes.
@@08turboSS That’s not true. Also gone is the dreaded clutch fan. All new electric fans are installed for added cooling.
You are wrong. These will not be overheating because of turbo. Your information is incorrect. The engine bay may get warmer, but will not make it overheat.
Toyota knows what they are doing. They’ve done years of testing.
The best thing is that they finally use rear rotor brakes, and it look awesome.
Disc brakes
I just LOVE the all new Tacoma and i just LOVE there NEW high prices for 2024 too!!
truly appaling. 55 for an OR
55 plus for a midsize 4 banger
Where was this filmed? Looks amazing, I want to go offroading here one day.
im curious how if much is lost power wise is lost since manuals lose less than automatics. correct me if im wrong.
Looks like Azusa area. I would love to get some rolling shots from the rear of my 4 runner
Chris, is it still realistic to expect the 2025 4Runner to come with a 6-speed manual as an option?
I never thought I would sell my 98 4x4 5MT but if 2025s are available in manual that changes things
@@chaseteter I am excited for it! Not everyone needs a truck, and to me, a 4Runner with a manual transmission is the ultimate universal soldier- great reliability (not sure about the longevity of the turbo 4-cyl. Vs your 3.4L V6), fun to drive stick shift, utility, towing capacity and 4x4 capability!
4:37 why is shifter vibrating again?
Because it’s directly connected, all manuals vibrate
The shifter is directly connected to the transmission unlike FWD vehicles where there are shift cables that dampen the vibrations
Placed an order for a stick shift ‘24 Tacoma yesterday. Put down a small deposit, and was told not to waste any luck on anything in hopes that one may actually be available for me to buy. The dealership, which is a fairly large one in my area, said they had 2 stick shift Tacomas in all of 2023 and one was bought by a guy from over 500 miles away. The offer of a manual is all well and good. But, if a consumer can’t actually purchase one then what’s the point? Other than to say, “see? Nobody wants them! They’re not being sold!” When in reality they’re just not available to those that want one.
I’ll wait until April or so then take my deposit back and go get a Gladiator.
What no crawl with the TRD off road now? that should now be standard pn all awd in all models.
How does this compare to the new Colorado ZR2 in your opinion?
Toph...will you reviewing a "Xtra-Cab SR5? Either Auto or Manual in the future?
Thx
No manual in the SR5 and no manual in the Xtra Cabs.
@@Shakerhood69 yep, only SR and Sport trims, oh, and TRD off-road too?
@@MaximumDIYGarage SR, Sport, and OR double cab short bed's.
@@Shakerhood69 Thx...actually prefer the auto anyhow. In regards to the Xtra-Cab, wish it was a 3 door.
You were a big fan of the bronco manual which I owned for a little while also. How did this compare?
Manual bronco is still more fun to drive but this Tacoma manual feels properly old school
@@TheTopherDo you think this Tacoma is a tune away from being as fun as the Bronco or is it lacking more than just a little power?
@@TheTopher Could you explain more? Does the manual Bronco have shorter shift?
Bronco is the better manual imo, it's almost sports car good. The Tacoma feels properly old school though, and is still a lot of fun if you want a bit of a throwback driving experience, which is hard to get in 2023...
Wish toyo put more miles, different geography and climates under the belts of these, like 200k miles or so before being released for sale.
Holly Oaks ORV Park?
Why does he start in 2nd gear from a stop?
Get rid of the 4-Cllylinder and I might get one Ya Right I love my 2005 Tacoma V6 4x4 and I will keep it till I die or if my truck dies, or I will rebuild it like new I would never get a truck with a 4-Cylinder ever the truck looks nice and lots of new things like the rear disk brakes but that should have been done starting with the 2005 Tacoma very late in getting the rear disk brakes and they say it gets better gas miles but I heard it has a smaller gas tank????? so much for the better gas miles :( sad days for us off-roaders and you will have to replace the turbos around one hundred thousand miles my Tacoma V6 4x4 has just got 150, thousand miles on it and not leaks or problems very happy with it I should get another 150, thousand miles out of it :) Toyota has jumped on the 4-Cylinder band wagon sad days for us Tacoma drivers and one more thing an air dam on a 4x4 how much will that cost extra just to remove it and throw it away???????????????.
Second gear to start? 🤨
Like the truck but why can’t these manufacturers integrate these gigantic screens into the dash. Not a fan
Can’t replace it easily when it inevitably breaks if it’s integrated.
Agree, but I prefer function over form if given the choice.
I think it's a sight line thing. If you have it pop up above the dash you take your eyes away from the road less to look at it. Plus, it makes it look bigger so there's a marketing element to it.
I hope they make enoigh manuals that they arent marked up to oblivion.
Enthusiast realities.
Fruitcakes are still gonna pay $60k to drive the truck you see in every red light 😂
I don't think I'm the first guy to type this but a 5-link live axle with coil springs isn't the same thing as multilink (I thought they gave full independent suspension to the Tacoma for a second there)
That’s what I was thinking too, but Toyota is calling it multilink 🤷♂️ I should’ve talked to them about that
Detuned Taco Manual. Auto= 6500rpm redline. Manual=5500redline. Can we switch out the rev-limiter in the manual for the auto. ?????
I wonder if the manual isn't strong enough to handle lots of power, or if it's just a gearing thing.
@@DragonKnightX12 The manual trans is stronger, less complicated, more reliable, less to maintain than the auto. Toyota is dealing with "product liability". Mainly in the form of "operator error". A lot more things can go wrong with a product when left to the operation and judgement of the owner. It' so much easier to automate everything and nothing left to the operator.
@@wlew3499 Not always case. Either one should be reliable.
It's all sales. Americans by large buy Auto. Most Americans just looking for useful truck or simple transportation, doesn't want to row gears. Really only enthusiasts that buy manual in the States.
Where as overseas manuals are super common. Most people in Europe learn to drive with a stick shift.
@@DragonKnightX12 You are correct in your assessment of folks wanting convenience in their drive. But take the case twist lock frt hubs and knob 4wd vs lever control 4wd. Giving control to an operator of all these analog systems he/she could destroy a modern hi-tech 4wd vehicle.. (So tune down the power .......ie less chance for destruction)
@@wlew3499 Probably just Toyota being cheap and using the transmission from the Hilux.
Had no idea they still offered these in a manual
I can't wait to bash my knuckles into those switches when switching gears.
holy shit dude shift!!! no need for first gear at all
How do shift between gears in 4lo without grinding?
push the clutch pedal? 😂
@@nleeak no. I own a third gen. My synchros grind if ID try to shift gears above 1500rpms in 4lo.
That’s the one I want, even the color. And for $35k out the door here in Canada, it’s a steal…. on a used car lot 7 years from now with a 100k km.
Could’ve been a much better off road illustration ! Such as a challenging hill climb & forward & reverse , moguls ( showing max clearances) from middle of truck & right side high up ,left side low down & vice, versa , a water crossing ,over top of tires , ect !
How am I getting so interested in trucks all of the sudden... maybe because most SUVS are pretending to be off road vehicles. I want this like I want a Lexus GX but in manual.
I saw one being sold for 60k.....seriously? Sixty thousand dollars!?
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but it is a 4 cylinders with 2 turbos. V6 was the way to go.
The screens ruin it
MADE in MEXICO.....I will wait for the 25 4Runner. Made in JAPAN
Sucks these trucks now go for over 50 out the door
Very cool but im not paying 60k for this
Is a 4 cylinder just get an old school V6.
I will think to buy that one until 2025 because I will check the REAL MPG.
I really hate all that iPad screen crap in new vehicles.
The automatic with more HP, Hybrid Max, crawl and refinement make it a hard choice to get a manual. Manual is great if you want a slower truck. I can’t pass up the more power and refinement along with the technology made for the automatic.
Sure bud, keep making excuses 😂
@@omarvargas6534I love manuals, but it’s only available in slow model. I want the Max Trailhunter. No manual in that one. I won’t settle for a slow model just to have a clutch.
Up to 5300 RPM the power of the manual is the same as the automatic.
@@ryanb8736 Might as well just get a V8 then. The difference in HP is negated almost entirely by the engagement of using a clutch. Nobody is buying a Taco for speed, lmao
@SethKnows but there aren't any V8 Tacomas lol
And ypu cant get the manual in any model except the top two trims, no thx. seems listening to owners was not on the table.
That was so lame the roads were perfectly graded you could have taking the brz on that.
Too bad its uglier than the previous gens, with the new styling everyone is doing. But the manual still makes it worth it.
I hope it’s possible to get a manual without that ridiculous screen.
Seriously? People will complain about everything lol
Geesh Whiz
I stopped watching the video, when you ,did 2 nd gear , up hill , 😅😅
It’s even uglier, heavier, and more expensive. No thanks.
That's true of basically every new car release now
Everything is expensive. Thats what happens when everyone got free money. Increases inflation. We warned everyone it would happen. Nothing is free.
The entire car industry and electrification is ugly. We need to start promoting good public transport and walkable cities in the US if we don’t want to be forced to have to drive them.
Not ban cars, but reduce dependency on them.
It's better looking than Gen 3, not sure what you are talking about.
@@chrisx5127Yea other than the comical huge air dam you get on non-or trims this is a good looking truck inside and out.
The engine noise will turn people off.