The irony is this ended up backfiring. Danny intentionally asked Jerry Esperson to make a pro gun closing so that he would lose and eventually have the case brought to the Supreme Court. Except Denny Crane ends up winning the case which pissed him off.
You can't tell me he wasn't showing a little bit of Alan Shore in his argument. At times he literally sounded like Alan. Jerry was a genius, and Christian should get his own series. Great actor.
@@salanzaldi4551 that's 100% true. The problem is how are they people who commit crimes getting guns? No one seems to know 😕. So any legislation to stop criminals getting guns is shut down by the law-abiding citizens who think its about them. Its not about legal gun ownership. But I would like someone who is a law-abiding, gun owner to explain to me why you feel no responsibility thats its legal to sell a gun at a gun show without any responsibility that you may be selling to a criminal?
Yes it does. Do you want to own a tank? Can't do that can you. Also... do you think that a bunch of fat guys running around in the woods can overtake the US Government? Have you ever heard of drones? You can stockpile all the AK-47's you want comrade but one f-35 will turn your compound into ash.
@@chrissanto You actually can own a tank and F-35 if you have the money. No law saying you cant. In Vietnam and Afghanistan 2 countries that didnt have a navy, air force and technology and training win both wars. Answer Guns
@@mahaffer71 LOL... you really don't know how things work do you? Yes, you can own a tank. There are no Abrams tanks in private hands. Some private citizens do have tanks from WWII but it takes YEARS to get one and costs way more than the tank is worth. Also, while the machine guns on said tanks might still work, the main barrel has been decommissioned. That means that if you try to fire a round through it, it will explode and maybe kill the tank crew. As far as f-35s are concerned... Let us all know who has $80 million dollars to piss away on one jet fighter. Certainly not Trump. See, sales of weapons systems in a global economy is a complicated thing that involves Geo-political concerns and State security concerns. Things you have no experience with or knowledge of. Please stop embarrassing yourself and pipe down.
@@chrissantoyour first comment was, "you can't own a tank or f35" and your last comment was, "Well, technically you can it'll take a lot of money." So basically, you were wrong in the first one. If you have enough money and investment, you can buy a tank.
@@stansman5461 Well gosh, I guess you misunderstood because I didn't use the word "de-weaponized" . See, it's illegal to own a Sherman tank that can still fire rounds. Sure you can own one, but you can't load it and shoot down a building. Hell, you can own almost anything if you have the money but it is illegal to own a P-52 Mustang that still has machine guns in the wings and nose. On top of the legal issues, do you know how much it costs to maintain those kinds of machines? It's millions of dollars. Nice try kid, maybe serve in the military before you speak about thing you have no knowledge of.
Funny thing about this case was that Danny and Jerry were trying to lose it so the appeal would go to a higher court but instead they end up winning and Danny then says “even when I am trying to lose I end up winning.”
@@GmthekillerWow. Nothing like trusting the Government to be the only ones with guns. Nothing like ignoring 2000+ years of human history to believe in fucked up fairy tales. Lol.
@@zippyzipster46Reason is only valuable when both parties practice it. Everything is reasonable when the effects of decisions are left out of the conversation. The 2nd is just as, if not more important than the rest as it provides the means to defend them.
I totally agree Count! This was a unique show with a stellar cast and excellent writing. As James Spader once mentioned at a cast panel: "...an excellent cocktail (of humor and drama)".
"well regulated militia" meant, well equipped and trained, and the militia was all able bodied men able to bear arms. Had nothing to do with the army. Remember, the first amendment was written shortly after we got done winning a war against a British tyrant and his troops. Absolutely it was intended to protect our INDIVIDUAL rights to keep and bear arms...arms suitable for any purpose including killing enemy soldiers at a distance, which we had just spent years doing.
You still forgot the "well regulated militia" part.. somehow.. that is missing nowdays. Any idiot can buy and bear one. I am all for shooting as a sport.. but just everyone having one without having to prove "well regulated"?
@@stansman5461 Where does it say that in the Constitution or Bill of Rights? I actually do think that violent criminals and the mentally ill (democrats, mostly) should not be permitted access to firearms but is that Constitutionally supportable?
@@Turboy65 I believe the able body also included the mind. Since I can't imagine the founding fathers coming across someone with a mental defect and calling them able bodied or considering that they should have the same rights as those of the sane
@@tarakivu8861He didn't forget "well regulated" it was literally the first comment he stated. "Well regulated militia" meant a "well armed, citizen fighting force".
imho the topics and especially ethics were fine, but the characters switched too many times with no explaination or very poor one liners by the remaining cast. The best thing about the show is, how it secretly makes parody of every single major problem the US had at the time or still has.
A militia is a Civilian arm, not a federally controlled one. It means it shall not be infringed because it effects the ability to maintain civilian militia.
@@douglasbrock5965 _"the State and not the Fed? You know, like it always was?"_ Yeah, not everyone lives in a country that's organized exactly as the USA, and that the situation in the USA is "the way it always was"... But thanks for demonstrating that you're just _another_ US American who is arrogant and ignorant enough to assume that, makes it easier to put this conversation into the right perspective...
@@Wolf-ln1mlWell regulated meant, in general, "functioning as expected, working properly, precise, etc". In the context of a militia it meant "to be well armed and trained". This literally could not exist without "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" being infringed upon.
Even if the 2nd amendment did not exist we would still have the right as persons to keep and bear arms because we are born with our rights. Our rights do not come from the state or the Constitution for that matter. If the second amendment means that only the militia had the right to keep and bear arms, it would have said that. But it does not say that, it says the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The clause points out that the militia is needed for a free state.
George Mason- "I asked sir what is the militia it is the whole people to disarms of people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them George Mason- "I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." Samuel Adams "The constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the U.S who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms"
I agree. I miss it's predecessor "The Practice" as well. I'm glad I bought the series on DVD. The only complete season of "The Practice" was it's final one. It set the stage for "Boston Legal". It's my pet peeve with changes in technology. Music and movies are often discontinued. Not every TV show one my like is available just like classic music you may have grown up with. Unfortunately, it's legal issues with ownership and royalties.
@@julesmasseffectmusic I'm pretty sure you can stream every episode of Boston Legal for free with commercials on Amazon Prime. Not sure about The Practice. I've still never watched it even though I've rewatched BL 4 or 5 times.
Oh no, don't hope for them to try and bring anything that was actually good back for at least another decade. The industry has never been so hopelessly inept, unimaginative and political and thy probably won't clean house for a while yet! 😆
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." That's partly fo keep our State secure and safe. And partly to keep a pool from which can form well-regulated militias.
@@davidchildress7150 Yes, militia is mentioned elsewhere in the Constitution. For each man to have the protected right to keep and bears arms is in the 2nd Amendment, and it says right there that one purpose for that is provide for a pool of citizens who can form militias. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." For at least that one reason, it says that the right shall not be infringed. That doesn't preclude other reasons to protect that right, either. The essence of it:"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
@@davidchildress7150The "Well regulated militia" was defined in the Militia Act of 1792, and it meant "all able bodied men between ages 18-45 must provide their own private arms and ammo if called forth to aid the National government."
@arron4749 Frederick Douglass- “A man’s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. Frederick Douglass- The true remedy for the fugitive slave bill is a good revolver, a steady hand, and a determination to shoot down any man attempting to kidnap Martin Luther King- Violence exercised in self-defense, which all societies, from the most primitive to the most cultured and civilized, accept as moral and legal. The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi Roy Innis-To make inexpensive guns impossible to get is to say that you're putting a money test on getting a gun. It's racism in its worst form
Oh, and the judge was played by the wonderful Artie Johnson, who used to be the little German (and other characters) on Laugh In, looking from behind various potted plants and saying "Very interesting!!!"
Close. The actor playing the judge was Henry Gibson, who was also on Laugh In with Artie. He also played the head of the Illinois Nazis in Blues Brothers, but not the German hiding in the fern on Laugh In.
Clemenson - fat and thin - was always a great character actor. Black Widow librarian. Loser brother in Bad Company. Chain-smoking flight surgeon in Apollo 13. Great to see him finally acknowledged and given his own wings.
In 1967, Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take a human life. He replied: "I don't know, I've only ever killed communists"
Ironically, Jerry was supposed to make a pro gun argument to make Denny lose and the case gets kicked up to the Supreme Court, but he ended up coming across as sarcastic. Denny won.
It is too bad they didn't include their meeting in the conference room outside the courtroom right after this scene where Denny give Jerry a cigar and explains to "Hackey sack man" what the strategy was in the courtroom.
@@KingOfGamesss He didn't lose because he wasn't the attorney and he wanted to lose so that he could appeal the case to a higher court and get a more definitive decision.
Keep in mind that a free nation must have a militia to defend against other nations but the founder knew that a standing army could be used against the people from a nefarious ruler. The people needed to be armed tomdefemd against its own leaders if the army was used against the people. The British army was used against the people and tried to take the citizens guns.
Exactly why the entire premise of the rant in this video is misguided. Also why anti gun activists are naive.... they want the government to have authority over their lives until it doesn't work out for them. As soon as the ball drops, they are begging for help, even anti gun Hollywood has a character in nearly every movie with lawlessness that is a passive schmuck until the bad guys come, then begs the "hero" to protect them. Word of advice to the anti gun crowd... usually the pansy anti gun guy in the movies doesn't make it. Think about that when you make decisions in real life, it's much less forgiving than the movies.
And yet the USA is one of the few countries in the world where guns are so protected. Has it made it safer? No. Quite the opposite. And by the way, the UK has stricter gun laws AND less gun deaths.
@@Ares99999the UK also arrests is citizens over words on the Internet and arrests people who defend themselves from violent crimes. They are no model. In fact we fought a war to break away from them and not be like them. America has it's own zeitgeist. Our own mindset. We're individualists. We don't curl in a ball and pray for the government to tell us what to do or to keep us safe. We take care of ourselves. I have absolutely zero interest in being like the UK or the EU or Australia, or any other nation.
Due to the sheer size of the USA, there was _zero_ chance of any standing army they could put together at that time to defend the territory from an invasion. Local militias made perfect sense then. Sure, a "standing army" (or rather, a military) can in principle be exploited by a nefarious ruler (government or military leader). But please, show me the militia that stands an actual chance against even just a quarter - *_any_* quarter you want to put together to give your militia the best chance against it - of the US military. To call the fights a "war" would be pure cynicism. You might as well put Mike Tyson against a three-year-old and warn him of the toddler's mean right hook...
That furious, sarcastic *sneering* at hypocrisy, that sincere disgust and powerless fury... They're not defectives. They're the *referee bugs.* The reason we've got demagogues and child rapists in the West is because we don't make people like Jerry here _clergy_ anymore. Dudes like him are born to be Commisars and Vicars and Inquisitors.
Still not as brilliant as when John Larroquette wins a death penalty case by accusing the DA of being anti death penalty by pushing for the dealth penalty in a prosecution.
Peoples ignorance on the second amendment is staggering. The founding fathers wrote several pieces On this. There is no confusion on what they meant. And it is not for what we consider a militia today and it is not for only the army it is for every able-bodied American. The definition and use of militia is different now than it was then and it is for the use of all Americans to have the right to own any fire arm and as many as we want unimpeded. That right is very infringed and impeded. Just like the first amendment is becoming now
Every able bodied American? Do you not mean between ages 18 to 45? And…. ehm, white? And under disciplin and organizing of Congress if needed? How did you get from that to “everybody gets an Uzi”?
@@TommyGlint Just as first amendment rights don't apply to just paper and quill but your cellphone and any mode of communication. So does the 2nd amendment right apply to ALL citizens. Arguments on skin color and age were also resolved. As were nationality and sex. Again peoples ignorance on this is staggering. Then they want to argue and make ignorant points. Read up on sites that discuss this other than berkley. God bless and good luck.. youre gonna discover a lot.. like the argument on skin color as that was a democrat arguing point not a constitutional one nor Republican not that most Republican politicians aren't just as rotten as democrat ones these days
Well, I was just under the impression that Congress specified what the Militias was. Speech is speech no matter the media, but a Militia, who is mustered as such in books and drills on Sundays after church is not the same as everybody gets an AK in 2021. I’m not saying I know a lot about the subject, I just find it odd how important the gun enthusiasts find the words “the people” in that quote, but apparently “Militia” as a term means nothing really, when in fact it isn’t just anybody with a gun.
The people are the militia, and were expected to supply their own guns. Just regular people with canons and muskets, ready to fight tyranny whenever needed. The right of the people, not the government, to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It’s the bill of rights, rights of the people, not government rights. It would make no sense to write it that way, let alone put it there.
Sure, because who needs a complex legal document to be clear and not subject to interpretation, am I right? American's lust for gun is almost equal to the orgasm they get of seeing kids die at the border or watching someone go into bankruptcy because of medical debts.
I guess the real trick is to just ignore the first comma in the prefatory clause? Stated another way "Since a well regulated Militia must exist for our security against other countries, the right of the common people to keep weapons shall not be infringed by the aforesaid armed Militia" That's cute. By ignoring the first comma, it makes it seem like it's the well regulated militia's right to bear arms that shouldn't be infringed. Infringed by whom, themselves?
Yes. And not just other countries. The first battles of the American Revolution (Lexington and Concord) was over guns. The British were on the way to take away the colonists’ guns. The founders knew that without guns, the people stand no chance not against foreign countries, but against their own government. Own government? Hogwash. Oh wait. The British were the government of the people at that time... hmmm.
A little. Twenty years ago, the writer could have Jerry say that no Supreme Court in history had found that the Second Amendment guaranteed anyone the right to bear arms outside of the military, and a viewer would more or less accept that at face value. Even then, it sounded a little weird. Did the bill of rights really need to specify that the military had a right to weapons? Who was going to take their guns? And if that was the point, why didn't anybody say so at the time? The Heller decision went through the historical and legal record and produced a _long_ list of prior precedents, history that gun control decisions starting around the New Deal era had ignored. The left-wing faction's dissent to that opinion made many arguments for gun control, but didn't even try to challenge that the case law and history were there. Also, Jerry's speech implied that only a small faction of extremist judges believed that the second amendment guaranteed a right to bear arms, but obviously Scalia died many years ago now and a great many judges continue to read the amendment that way. It's a great speech, very effective at the time, but in hindsight I don't think it lands the way it did back then. If anything, it may undermine its own cause. These days, most pro-gun and even many gun owners can quote those precedents. Priming an audience in favor of gun control with Jerry's arguments (instead of other, more effective points) just sets them up to fail.
@@theprogram863 Still missing "well regulated militia".. I agree Law is situational and changes not only over time but also with how the society changes. Interestingly, everyone jumps to the constitution to take it word for word when its something they dont like. Funny too.. always freedoms, freedoms.. but fine with having them taken away anywhere else
@@tarakivu8861 I don't know what you're agreeing with. The law doesn't change when society changes, it changes when the legislature explicitly changes it (if necessary, by amending the Constitution). If we don't take the Constitution word for word, then it has no meaning. And the whole point of Heller was that the wording is critical, as we no longer use the word "militia" as it was used back then. Before and as it was passed, the Bill of Rights was widely discussed and the second amendment was understood as a clear protection for the _individual's_ right to bear arms. The decisions I mentioned discuss this in detail (the dissent is worth reading, too). And where did I discuss taking away other people's freedoms? Or does your respect for civil rights expire as soon as you think some third party out there doesn't support them? This is exactly what I was warning about. Parroting errors about the Second Amendment's history and wording, even widespread ones, may give you a quick dopamine hit during an argument, but they are easily debunked in the internet era and crowd out the valid legal arguments. I suppose if I had a win-at-all-costs mindset, I shouldn't try to warn you. Something similar happened with RvW, too: there were many opportunities in the next few decades to pass legislation or federal law (or even a constitutional amendment) to guarantee the right to choose. RvW's reasoning was flawed and poorly justified, and everyone knew it. They could have created an alternative legal foundation for the right to choose, something more legally solid. But the activists got so obsessed with defending their "penumbras" that they bet everything on defending the logic of the original decision, largely out of ego, and blew it.
This scene outlines how humanity went wrong. Lawyers abusing the term 'Grey' ('Grey Area' is a term used in law where there is no clear 'Black & White')
That's correct according to the 'Militia act of 1796'. People tend to interpret history based on modern thinking and values. Therefore they think that the current definition of the word "militia" is what it meant to the Founding Fathers.
@@txgunguy2766 what was their definition of "well regulated" it cannot be these overweight cosplaytriots training breaching maneuvers in fake houses out in the woods.
@@niklasdahlgren7641 Definitely not. They meant the kind of "well regulated militia" that caused Major Patrick Ferguson to keep his promise when he said "God himself could not get me off this mountain". British Major Ferguson led a loyalist militia up South Carolina's Kings Mountain in 1780 only to be met by a patriot militia who buried him there.
Right, but it’s implied that the bearing of guns is required for the need to bring together a well regulated milita, the two are linked. It’s not right to bear arms for the sake of it, it’s so that a milita can be called into being. Given that the USA has a standing army and National Guards, it seems rather redundant. It made sense when the USA was forming and had minimal security and defense apparatus. But given the USA no longer needs that, it no longer needs its citizens to be armed and quickly mobilized into local milita. Historical context is important.
the well regulated militias were the slave hunting squads. And the new Americans were horrified when the British engaged black men an burned down a part of D.C.
The law... You're guaranteed the right AGAINST self incrimination. But you must give your DNA at the drop of the hat...every lawyer in America knows it but shrugs it off as , Naw, we didn't mean it.
For private sales, under federal law any unlicensed person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of the same state as long as the seller does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the purchaser is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under federal law.
The rant was so factually wrong that it is laughable. All able bodied men are, by default, members of the militia. That is a legal definition specifically stated in Federal law and built upon history and tradition.
Right, all able bodied "men", not women, and the founding fathers imposed a cutoff at 45. So women, the disabled and all over 45 are not included in the militia. Also, slaves and native Americans were not included. So if you are an able bodied white guy between 18 and 45, you may keep a firearm.
@@flankspeed First, there's no constitutional right to own a car and a car is not useful for defending ones self or what's yours. Second, have you ever pondered the bureaucratic BS that a citizen goes through just to own a means of transportation; personal licensing, vehicle licensing, insurances, vehicle registration, and smog checks - no thank you very much.
@@johnchambers2996 I'd rather have the vast number of tonne-weights of metal being driven around the USA at high speeds being driven by people who are qualified to do so, rather than the alternative. Of course, if you're living in a survivalist shack in Oregon surrounded by "home defense" sniper rifles it's not your first concern.
Oh, and while we're at it: how many cars were on the roads when the US constitution was written? And how many large-magazine autofire assault weapons did people have? You might as well try and argue that the Founding Fathers were massive fans of Fox News.
@@flankspeed Your ton weights wipe out five times as many people as what firearms murder, other than self murder. Firearms are a deterrent if you've ever had a store in a hoodlum infested neighborhood, and apparently you weren't in downtown Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots where the police stood by and the only businesses that weren't looted and burned were the ones with the "assault rifles". As a veteran who picked up the rifle to defend someone else's country, I find you and your control elements of this country to be rather moronic and insipid.
Hands Espensen is a very good research lawyer, and no doubt knows exactly what Judge Learned Hand (not a pun) wrote on the definition/composition of the militia. Hint: the National Guard isn't one.
To be fair, actual lawyers and prosecutors do exactly the same thing for their own closing statements. At least you can have multiple takes as an actor, I’m surprised underpaid public defenders don’t go insane.
"The right of the people" funny how they didn't write it as "The right of the militia". I mean if you think they took the careful time and detail to write the first 13 words so carefully, then why did they switch to "the right of the people" instead of continuing to speak about the militia?
The more fun part is that at the time of writing there was no standing army. All we had was state militia's, so what the founders are saying is the people will regulate the militia because we are armed too.
Honestly it's pretty straight forward. A militia is specifically distinguished from a standing *army*. An army is a tool of the government. A militia is made up of the people. You can't have a militia - well regulated or not - unless the people are already armed.
The 2A should be read, in modern terms, as "The right of the *people* to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, because they need to form militias when the *free state* is in danger, be it from a foreign power, or an overreaching government."
"A well educated population, being necessary to the economic prosperity of the nation, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed." Now after reading that alternate wording, do you believe the amendment only applies to those individuals enrolled in an accredited university course? Of course not. That's how ridiculous it is to say that the 2nd amendment only applies to individuals serving in a military capacity. The 2nd amendment codifies an individual right to gun ownership (within reasonable limits determined through precedent and judicial review) for any lawful purpose, explicitly, though not exclusively, for the purposes of membership in an old school 18 century militia.
Couldn't have said it better my self. The Bill of Rights are a set of restrictive and declarative statements say to the Federal Government: Keep your hands off, these are the peoples, not yours.
Yes, you have made a strong case that apples aren't oranges. Unfortunately your argument falls flat when you bait and switch the words "population" for "militia" and "educated" for "regulated." Just take a look at the two terms side by side and decide if you really want to hinge your world view on "well regulated militia" being equivalent language to "well educated population." I give you a C-. You'll probably only convince people who already agree with you.
@@Jermbot15I award you 0/10. You seem to have missed the point entirely. The point is that words have meaning. And if you don't like the words then our democratic process gives you all the opportunity you care to take in affecting change. The 2A is crystal clear. If you don't like the words, then work to change them. But don't pretend you don't understand their meaning.
@@joshmccollen700 Words do have meanings, and the meanings of your words fall short of making a sane or convincing argument. Which is why you're so quickly trying to change the subject to... me voting I guess? You may feel, deep in your emotional little heart, that you have clarity. I envy that simplicity.
I remember this episode.
We, the jury, find in favor of Denny Crane. Not guilty.
Denny: your honor, we appeal.
Judge: you can’t appeal, you won.
The irony is this ended up backfiring. Danny intentionally asked Jerry Esperson to make a pro gun closing so that he would lose and eventually have the case brought to the Supreme Court. Except Denny Crane ends up winning the case which pissed him off.
Right on point!
Thanks for that info!
Yep! Just goes to show how stupid the Jury was.
@@JoshSmith-ek5gk The jury was so mesmerized being in the same courtroom as Denny Crane they couldn't think straight. Lol
Lee Griffin oh MosDef’ 😇
Jerry channeled Alan here, so incredibly well.
The look on Denny's face throughout is Classic!
I know.. like a proud dad.
@@kevinkalvo7914 To speak that loud without uttering a single word. Shatner is an amazing actor. Underrated.
The right to bear arms is intended for use against tyrannical governments and leftist trashcans.
You can't tell me he wasn't showing a little bit of Alan Shore in his argument. At times he literally sounded like Alan. Jerry was a genius, and Christian should get his own series. Great actor.
Watching this again, I was thinking the same thing. I could see this being an Alan Shore rant, It's like the one character was channelling the other,
@@ISIO-George Actually, like the same writer was writing for both characters. Oh wait, he was . . .
He's channeling Spader!
And thus, Jerry earned his wooden cigar.
Sorry
Funny he says "show of hands". This really was the show of Hands.
Touché! Tou·ché! Tou·ché!
"Hands" Espenson!
Cannot believe I didn't catch that.
and not all of them
he won his case by destroying his own argument . that's some good writing right there
David E Kelly writing. 👏👏👏
This was a REALLY good show but shows the gaps in the legal system.
Law abiding citizens have the right to own guns. It isn't the law abiding citizens who are useing guns to commit crimes.
@@salanzaldi4551 that's 100% true.
The problem is how are they people who commit crimes getting guns? No one seems to know 😕.
So any legislation to stop criminals getting guns is shut down by the law-abiding citizens who think its about them. Its not about legal gun ownership.
But I would like someone who is a law-abiding, gun owner to explain to me why you feel no responsibility thats its legal to sell a gun at a gun show without any responsibility that you may be selling to a criminal?
@@salanzaldi4551 whiskey rebellion. 1st thing Washington did was to take the guns.
This is the most productive use of hypocrisy I've ever seen in an argument.
This was such a great moment for the character of Jerry. Denny loved every moment of it!!!
Wach the beggining of the episode for a context.
@@arron4749how is he a white supremacist?
there it is,, everything is racist@@arron4749
The towering sarcasm... spectacular.
For the love, A well regulated Militia does not mean, ‘Let the government tell you who gets to own a gun.’
Yes it does. Do you want to own a tank? Can't do that can you. Also... do you think that a bunch of fat guys running around in the woods can overtake the US Government? Have you ever heard of drones? You can stockpile all the AK-47's you want comrade but one f-35 will turn your compound into ash.
@@chrissanto You actually can own a tank and F-35 if you have the money. No law saying you cant. In Vietnam and Afghanistan 2 countries that didnt have a navy, air force and technology and training win both wars. Answer Guns
@@mahaffer71 LOL... you really don't know how things work do you? Yes, you can own a tank. There are no Abrams tanks in private hands. Some private citizens do have tanks from WWII but it takes YEARS to get one and costs way more than the tank is worth. Also, while the machine guns on said tanks might still work, the main barrel has been decommissioned. That means that if you try to fire a round through it, it will explode and maybe kill the tank crew.
As far as f-35s are concerned... Let us all know who has $80 million dollars to piss away on one jet fighter. Certainly not Trump. See, sales of weapons systems in a global economy is a complicated thing that involves Geo-political concerns and State security concerns. Things you have no experience with or knowledge of. Please stop embarrassing yourself and pipe down.
@@chrissantoyour first comment was, "you can't own a tank or f35" and your last comment was, "Well, technically you can it'll take a lot of money."
So basically, you were wrong in the first one. If you have enough money and investment, you can buy a tank.
@@stansman5461 Well gosh, I guess you misunderstood because I didn't use the word "de-weaponized" . See, it's illegal to own a Sherman tank that can still fire rounds. Sure you can own one, but you can't load it and shoot down a building. Hell, you can own almost anything if you have the money but it is illegal to own a P-52 Mustang that still has machine guns in the wings and nose. On top of the legal issues, do you know how much it costs to maintain those kinds of machines? It's millions of dollars.
Nice try kid, maybe serve in the military before you speak about thing you have no knowledge of.
Funny thing about this case was that Danny and Jerry were trying to lose it so the appeal would go to a higher court but instead they end up winning and Danny then says “even when I am trying to lose I end up winning.”
2:49 - "PIPE DOWN SACKY BOY!!!"
I spat my coffee out laughing.
2:46 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
My favourite part in the whole thing, which is saying a lot, cos the entire rant was brilliant!
The tempo of this script is faster than Busta Rhymes serving as an auctioneer.
I love how all Shatner's character does is just sit and enjoy the show
What an actor!
The hidden danger of all real satire: someone might think it sounds perfectly reasonable.
Usually the women..
@@jacobjones5269 *trumpsters.
@@GmthekillerWow. Nothing like trusting the Government to be the only ones with guns. Nothing like ignoring 2000+ years of human history to believe in fucked up fairy tales. Lol.
@@zippyzipster46 the way you was triggered by my comment shows you're deep in Maga cult.
How's the deep state? Lol
@@zippyzipster46Reason is only valuable when both parties practice it. Everything is reasonable when the effects of decisions are left out of the conversation. The 2nd is just as, if not more important than the rest as it provides the means to defend them.
Show of hands, who’s titillated?
Bahahaha
An incredible actor!!
This show had so many Wonderful moments like this one. For sure one of the top ones
I totally agree Count! This was a unique show with a stellar cast and excellent writing. As James Spader once mentioned at a cast panel: "...an excellent cocktail (of humor and drama)".
"well regulated militia" meant, well equipped and trained, and the militia was all able bodied men able to bear arms. Had nothing to do with the army. Remember, the first amendment was written shortly after we got done winning a war against a British tyrant and his troops. Absolutely it was intended to protect our INDIVIDUAL rights to keep and bear arms...arms suitable for any purpose including killing enemy soldiers at a distance, which we had just spent years doing.
You still forgot the "well regulated militia" part.. somehow.. that is missing nowdays. Any idiot can buy and bear one.
I am all for shooting as a sport.. but just everyone having one without having to prove "well regulated"?
No, you still need to be mentally sane and not a felon to own a gun. Some states even make sure you aren't a known violent criminal.
@@stansman5461 Where does it say that in the Constitution or Bill of Rights? I actually do think that violent criminals and the mentally ill (democrats, mostly) should not be permitted access to firearms but is that Constitutionally supportable?
@@Turboy65 I believe the able body also included the mind. Since I can't imagine the founding fathers coming across someone with a mental defect and calling them able bodied or considering that they should have the same rights as those of the sane
@@tarakivu8861He didn't forget "well regulated" it was literally the first comment he stated.
"Well regulated militia" meant a "well armed, citizen fighting force".
boston legal was an amazing series with excellent writers
imho the topics and especially ethics were fine, but the characters switched too many times with no explaination or very poor one liners by the remaining cast. The best thing about the show is, how it secretly makes parody of every single major problem the US had at the time or still has.
@@tillschellerit wasn't very secret, nor subtle. It's just that people didn't pay attention.
A well-regulated militia brings their own weapons to the fight.😮
Just look at out founders and there quotes on the people have the right to own a gun and what militia meant beck then
5 points to whoever caught Robert Kennedy allusion.
where is it ?
Shot in the dark... McCain who knows how to be president?
4:08-4:18
@@matthewtraber1143 Please explain.
A militia is a Civilian arm, not a federally controlled one. It means it shall not be infringed because it effects the ability to maintain civilian militia.
"Well regulated militia" - Who do you suggest is supposed to be doing the regulating? The militia itself?
@@Wolf-ln1ml ummm the State and not the Fed? You know, like it always was?
Dont really know much about it do you.
@@douglasbrock5965 _"the State and not the Fed? You know, like it always was?"_
Yeah, not everyone lives in a country that's organized exactly as the USA, and that the situation in the USA is "the way it always was"... But thanks for demonstrating that you're just _another_ US American who is arrogant and ignorant enough to assume that, makes it easier to put this conversation into the right perspective...
@@Wolf-ln1mlWell regulated meant, in general, "functioning as expected, working properly, precise, etc".
In the context of a militia it meant "to be well armed and trained".
This literally could not exist without "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" being infringed upon.
"Nah-ah!!!"
I love the way he says that.
Denny Crane can't even lose to Denny Crane. Denny Crane.
Boston Legal is a classic. I’ll be binge watching it soon!
Even if the 2nd amendment did not exist we would still have the right as persons to keep and bear arms because we are born with our rights. Our rights do not come from the state or the Constitution for that matter. If the second amendment means that only the militia had the right to keep and bear arms, it would have said that. But it does not say that, it says the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The clause points out that the militia is needed for a free state.
George Mason- "I asked sir what is the militia it is the whole people to disarms of people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them
George Mason- "I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
Samuel Adams "The constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the U.S who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms"
This show really pioneered combining proper legal analysis with sassy monologues
"Uh oh. He's using the Chewbazooka defense."
The simple truth is.. this is the simple truth.
I miss Scalia.
I love how Jerry is channeling his Alan Shore here
Was a nice touch mentioning the imaginary gun show loophole, I didn't even realize it was such an old fib! 😆
Wait it's imaginary? Guess I didn't buy my gun last weekend.
Guess you didn't, @@horrorfan117!
@@horrorfan117
Not without a NICs check you didn't.
Claiming you did isn't a fib, it's just a plain ol' lie.
Need to bring this show back!!
nah.... at least for now.....people tooooo stupid to understand it...
I agree. I miss it's predecessor "The Practice" as well. I'm glad I bought the series on DVD. The only complete season of "The Practice" was it's final one. It set the stage for "Boston Legal". It's my pet peeve with changes in technology. Music and movies are often discontinued. Not every TV show one my like is available just like classic music you may have grown up with. Unfortunately, it's legal issues with ownership and royalties.
@@seanswinton6242 torrents still a thing?
@@julesmasseffectmusic I'm pretty sure you can stream every episode of Boston Legal for free with commercials on Amazon Prime.
Not sure about The Practice. I've still never watched it even though I've rewatched BL 4 or 5 times.
Oh no, don't hope for them to try and bring anything that was actually good back for at least another decade. The industry has never been so hopelessly inept, unimaginative and political and thy probably won't clean house for a while yet! 😆
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." That's partly fo keep our State secure and safe. And partly to keep a pool from which can form well-regulated militias.
Nah. Not even close. A well regulated militia is defined elsewhere in the constitution...
@@davidchildress7150 Yes, militia is mentioned elsewhere in the Constitution. For each man to have the protected right to keep and bears arms is in the 2nd Amendment, and it says right there that one purpose for that is provide for a pool of citizens who can form militias. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." For at least that one reason, it says that the right shall not be infringed. That doesn't preclude other reasons to protect that right, either. The essence of it:"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
@@davidchildress7150The "Well regulated militia" was defined in the Militia Act of 1792, and it meant "all able bodied men between ages 18-45 must provide their own private arms and ammo if called forth to aid the National government."
Preach, Jerry!!!!
Outstanding writing. I wonder how many "takes" it took to accomplish this argument.
@arron4749 Quiet down sleepy get back to your Sago of Swindon you pizzle.
@arron4749 Frederick Douglass- “A man’s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.
Frederick Douglass- The true remedy for the fugitive slave bill is a good revolver, a steady hand, and a determination to shoot down any man attempting to kidnap
Martin Luther King- Violence exercised in self-defense, which all societies, from the most primitive to the most cultured and civilized, accept as moral and legal. The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi
Roy Innis-To make inexpensive guns impossible to get is to say that you're putting a money test on getting a gun. It's racism in its worst form
Oh, and the judge was played by the wonderful Artie Johnson, who used to be the little German (and other characters) on Laugh In, looking from behind various potted plants and saying "Very interesting!!!"
Close. The actor playing the judge was Henry Gibson, who was also on Laugh In with Artie. He also played the head of the Illinois Nazis in Blues Brothers, but not the German hiding in the fern on Laugh In.
Henry Gibson!!!! Thank you!!!
Was any of the legal assessments in this rant accurate? Nuh-uh!
That's rather Jerry's point.
“Pipe down, sacky boy!”
Carls face at the end will always get a laugh from me "what the fuck did i just get myself into"
he still wo that case - he is Denny Crane after all
The look on Denny's face as Jerry closed his closing....
Like a pyromaniac watching a blaze.
That was an excellent presentation.
Hilarious and effective.
( I think he was learning from Alan Shore )
0:29 Carl is like WTF are u doing boi?????
It's funny seeing Henry Gibson as the judge after seeing him as the head Illinois nazi on the Blues Brothers...😂😂😂
I'm miss them so much 💕
10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea---a good start.
Iirc, he was using the cigarette as a way to help himself trigger a confident outspoken persona, trying to overcome his Aspergers..
I love this show so much. I miss it.
Clemenson - fat and thin - was always a great character actor. Black Widow librarian. Loser brother in Bad Company. Chain-smoking flight surgeon in Apollo 13. Great to see him finally acknowledged and given his own wings.
He was quite good in "The Adventures of Brisco County Jr" as well..
He spat that out faster than Eminem
What a lack of understanding
Era muito bom
Que pena que não passa mais
In 1967, Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take a human life. He replied: "I don't know, I've only ever killed communists"
Yep, right on!
Holy fuck, he's not cool, he's cold as ice! 😎
Ironically, Jerry was supposed to make a pro gun argument to make Denny lose and the case gets kicked up to the Supreme Court, but he ended up coming across as sarcastic. Denny won.
It is too bad they didn't include their meeting in the conference room outside the courtroom right after this scene where Denny give Jerry a cigar and explains to "Hackey sack man" what the strategy was in the courtroom.
Denny can't lose even when he tries to
@@KingOfGamesss He didn't lose because he wasn't the attorney and he wanted to lose so that he could appeal the case to a higher court and get a more definitive decision.
@@Brian-uy2tj I was repeating what he said himself...did you forget?
That's some pretty good acting right there
Keep in mind that a free nation must have a militia to defend against other nations but the founder knew that a standing army could be used against the people from a nefarious ruler. The people needed to be armed tomdefemd against its own leaders if the army was used against the people. The British army was used against the people and tried to take the citizens guns.
Exactly why the entire premise of the rant in this video is misguided. Also why anti gun activists are naive.... they want the government to have authority over their lives until it doesn't work out for them. As soon as the ball drops, they are begging for help, even anti gun Hollywood has a character in nearly every movie with lawlessness that is a passive schmuck until the bad guys come, then begs the "hero" to protect them.
Word of advice to the anti gun crowd... usually the pansy anti gun guy in the movies doesn't make it. Think about that when you make decisions in real life, it's much less forgiving than the movies.
And yet the USA is one of the few countries in the world where guns are so protected. Has it made it safer? No. Quite the opposite. And by the way, the UK has stricter gun laws AND less gun deaths.
@@Ares99999the UK also arrests is citizens over words on the Internet and arrests people who defend themselves from violent crimes. They are no model. In fact we fought a war to break away from them and not be like them. America has it's own zeitgeist. Our own mindset. We're individualists. We don't curl in a ball and pray for the government to tell us what to do or to keep us safe. We take care of ourselves. I have absolutely zero interest in being like the UK or the EU or Australia, or any other nation.
Due to the sheer size of the USA, there was _zero_ chance of any standing army they could put together at that time to defend the territory from an invasion. Local militias made perfect sense then.
Sure, a "standing army" (or rather, a military) can in principle be exploited by a nefarious ruler (government or military leader). But please, show me the militia that stands an actual chance against even just a quarter - *_any_* quarter you want to put together to give your militia the best chance against it - of the US military. To call the fights a "war" would be pure cynicism. You might as well put Mike Tyson against a three-year-old and warn him of the toddler's mean right hook...
Brilliant and appropriate for this moment in time.
Yay, Aspie lawyer and Carl defending Denny. My two favorite things: Fellow Aspies and John Larroquette.
That furious, sarcastic *sneering* at hypocrisy, that sincere disgust and powerless fury... They're not defectives. They're the *referee bugs.* The reason we've got demagogues and child rapists in the West is because we don't make people like Jerry here _clergy_ anymore. Dudes like him are born to be Commisars and Vicars and Inquisitors.
Still not as brilliant as when John Larroquette wins a death penalty case by accusing the DA of being anti death penalty by pushing for the dealth penalty in a prosecution.
That is one of my favorites as well.
Peoples ignorance on the second amendment is staggering. The founding fathers wrote several pieces On this. There is no confusion on what they meant. And it is not for what we consider a militia today and it is not for only the army it is for every able-bodied American. The definition and use of militia is different now than it was then and it is for the use of all Americans to have the right to own any fire arm and as many as we want unimpeded. That right is very infringed and impeded. Just like the first amendment is becoming now
bwahahaha "The definition and use of militia is different now than it was then"... bravo for shooting yourself in the foot (pun intended)
@@grizzlynad twisting and quoting part of what I wrote only shows you to belong in my first sentence.
Every able bodied American?
Do you not mean between ages 18 to 45? And…. ehm, white? And under disciplin and organizing of Congress if needed?
How did you get from that to “everybody gets an Uzi”?
@@TommyGlint Just as first amendment rights don't apply to just paper and quill but your cellphone and any mode of communication. So does the 2nd amendment right apply to ALL citizens. Arguments on skin color and age were also resolved. As were nationality and sex. Again peoples ignorance on this is staggering. Then they want to argue and make ignorant points. Read up on sites that discuss this other than berkley. God bless and good luck.. youre gonna discover a lot.. like the argument on skin color as that was a democrat arguing point not a constitutional one nor Republican not that most Republican politicians aren't just as rotten as democrat ones these days
Well, I was just under the impression that Congress specified what the Militias was. Speech is speech no matter the media, but a Militia, who is mustered as such in books and drills on Sundays after church is not the same as everybody gets an AK in 2021.
I’m not saying I know a lot about the subject, I just find it odd how important the gun enthusiasts find the words “the people” in that quote, but apparently “Militia” as a term means nothing really, when in fact it isn’t just anybody with a gun.
Great scene I loved the way Denny had this look of admiration.
The people are the militia, and were expected to supply their own guns. Just regular people with canons and muskets, ready to fight tyranny whenever needed. The right of the people, not the government, to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It’s the bill of rights, rights of the people, not government rights. It would make no sense to write it that way, let alone put it there.
Sure, because who needs a complex legal document to be clear and not subject to interpretation, am I right?
American's lust for gun is almost equal to the orgasm they get of seeing kids die at the border or watching someone go into bankruptcy because of medical debts.
@@James-ux3nt I have no need to fear that gang bangers will shoot me more than I fear a sick man on my block with his legally purchased weapon.
@@James-ux3nt Why? Just don't let a sick man buy a gun legally.
@@James-ux3nt Lovely rant. Do more to keep sick people from having guns.
@@James-ux3nt 1) Make background checks law for all guns sales. 2) Initiate "red flag" laws. 3) Bump stocks and large magazine bans.
Pipe down, Sacky boy! 😂
I always loved Jerry…
Denny Crane.
If anyone wants to have some real fun try looking up the words to the song that was played at the end of the rant and enjoy.
2 words Danny Crane
The 2 most feared words in this or any other language.
I guess the real trick is to just ignore the first comma in the prefatory clause?
Stated another way "Since a well regulated Militia must exist for our security against other countries, the right of the common people to keep weapons shall not be infringed by the aforesaid armed Militia"
That's cute. By ignoring the first comma, it makes it seem like it's the well regulated militia's right to bear arms that shouldn't be infringed. Infringed by whom, themselves?
Yes. And not just other countries. The first battles of the American Revolution (Lexington and Concord) was over guns. The British were on the way to take away the colonists’ guns. The founders knew that without guns, the people stand no chance not against foreign countries, but against their own government. Own government? Hogwash. Oh wait. The British were the government of the people at that time... hmmm.
Pipe down Sacky boy
This video hits differently after recent SCOTUS decisions...
A little. Twenty years ago, the writer could have Jerry say that no Supreme Court in history had found that the Second Amendment guaranteed anyone the right to bear arms outside of the military, and a viewer would more or less accept that at face value. Even then, it sounded a little weird. Did the bill of rights really need to specify that the military had a right to weapons? Who was going to take their guns? And if that was the point, why didn't anybody say so at the time? The Heller decision went through the historical and legal record and produced a _long_ list of prior precedents, history that gun control decisions starting around the New Deal era had ignored. The left-wing faction's dissent to that opinion made many arguments for gun control, but didn't even try to challenge that the case law and history were there.
Also, Jerry's speech implied that only a small faction of extremist judges believed that the second amendment guaranteed a right to bear arms, but obviously Scalia died many years ago now and a great many judges continue to read the amendment that way.
It's a great speech, very effective at the time, but in hindsight I don't think it lands the way it did back then. If anything, it may undermine its own cause. These days, most pro-gun and even many gun owners can quote those precedents. Priming an audience in favor of gun control with Jerry's arguments (instead of other, more effective points) just sets them up to fail.
@@theprogram863 Still missing "well regulated militia"..
I agree Law is situational and changes not only over time but also with how the society changes. Interestingly, everyone jumps to the constitution to take it word for word when its something they dont like.
Funny too.. always freedoms, freedoms.. but fine with having them taken away anywhere else
@@tarakivu8861 I don't know what you're agreeing with. The law doesn't change when society changes, it changes when the legislature explicitly changes it (if necessary, by amending the Constitution). If we don't take the Constitution word for word, then it has no meaning. And the whole point of Heller was that the wording is critical, as we no longer use the word "militia" as it was used back then. Before and as it was passed, the Bill of Rights was widely discussed and the second amendment was understood as a clear protection for the _individual's_ right to bear arms. The decisions I mentioned discuss this in detail (the dissent is worth reading, too).
And where did I discuss taking away other people's freedoms? Or does your respect for civil rights expire as soon as you think some third party out there doesn't support them?
This is exactly what I was warning about. Parroting errors about the Second Amendment's history and wording, even widespread ones, may give you a quick dopamine hit during an argument, but they are easily debunked in the internet era and crowd out the valid legal arguments. I suppose if I had a win-at-all-costs mindset, I shouldn't try to warn you. Something similar happened with RvW, too: there were many opportunities in the next few decades to pass legislation or federal law (or even a constitutional amendment) to guarantee the right to choose. RvW's reasoning was flawed and poorly justified, and everyone knew it. They could have created an alternative legal foundation for the right to choose, something more legally solid. But the activists got so obsessed with defending their "penumbras" that they bet everything on defending the logic of the original decision, largely out of ego, and blew it.
This scene outlines how humanity went wrong.
Lawyers abusing the term 'Grey'
('Grey Area' is a term used in law where there is no clear 'Black & White')
Till you look at the founding father quotes about the meaning of the 2nd amendment.
Except that whole "militia" was every free man over the age of 16.
That's correct according to the 'Militia act of 1796'. People tend to interpret history based on modern thinking and values.
Therefore they think that the current definition of the word "militia" is what it meant to the Founding Fathers.
@@txgunguy2766 what was their definition of "well regulated"
it cannot be these overweight cosplaytriots training breaching maneuvers in fake houses out in the woods.
@@niklasdahlgren7641
Definitely not. They meant the kind of "well regulated militia" that caused Major Patrick Ferguson to keep his promise when he said "God himself could not get me off this mountain".
British Major Ferguson led a loyalist militia up South Carolina's Kings Mountain in 1780 only to be met by a patriot militia who buried him there.
Right, but it’s implied that the bearing of guns is required for the need to bring together a well regulated milita, the two are linked. It’s not right to bear arms for the sake of it, it’s so that a milita can be called into being. Given that the USA has a standing army and National Guards, it seems rather redundant. It made sense when the USA was forming and had minimal security and defense apparatus. But given the USA no longer needs that, it no longer needs its citizens to be armed and quickly mobilized into local milita. Historical context is important.
the well regulated militias were the slave hunting squads. And the new Americans were horrified when the British engaged black men an burned down a part of D.C.
The law...
You're guaranteed the right AGAINST self incrimination. But you must give your DNA at the drop of the hat...every lawyer in America knows it but shrugs it off as , Naw, we didn't mean it.
show of hands, Who wants this guy as their lawyer
Hell no.
I'll have him for -ority leader though.
Look at John Larroquette's face, as Jerry continues on with his closing arguments.
Loved it, but just to note, there is no gun show loophole.
For private sales, under federal law any unlicensed person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of the same state as long as the seller does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the purchaser is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under federal law.
@@shawnrobertson844 correct
So true!!
The rant was so factually wrong that it is laughable. All able bodied men are, by default, members of the militia. That is a legal definition specifically stated in Federal law and built upon history and tradition.
Right, all able bodied "men", not women, and the founding fathers imposed a cutoff at 45. So women, the disabled and all over 45 are not included in the militia. Also, slaves and native Americans were not included. So if you are an able bodied white guy between 18 and 45, you may keep a firearm.
My God. The sarcasm.
Jerry Esperson is like the James Spader character.
I liked the great Walter Williams' response to "If it saves one life" - make the speed limit five miles per hour.
Cars require a license to drive. And insurance.
How about that for guns?
@@flankspeed First, there's no constitutional right to own a car and a car is not useful for defending ones self or what's yours. Second, have you ever pondered the bureaucratic BS that a citizen goes through just to own a means of transportation; personal licensing, vehicle licensing, insurances, vehicle registration, and smog checks - no thank you very much.
@@johnchambers2996 I'd rather have the vast number of tonne-weights of metal being driven around the USA at high speeds being driven by people who are qualified to do so, rather than the alternative. Of course, if you're living in a survivalist shack in Oregon surrounded by "home defense" sniper rifles it's not your first concern.
Oh, and while we're at it: how many cars were on the roads when the US constitution was written? And how many large-magazine autofire assault weapons did people have?
You might as well try and argue that the Founding Fathers were massive fans of Fox News.
@@flankspeed Your ton weights wipe out five times as many people as what firearms murder, other than self murder. Firearms are a deterrent if you've ever had a store in a hoodlum infested neighborhood, and apparently you weren't in downtown Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots where the police stood by and the only businesses that weren't looted and burned were the ones with the "assault rifles". As a veteran who picked up the rifle to defend someone else's country, I find you and your control elements of this country to be rather moronic and insipid.
*Quiet Hacky Sac*
Denny Crane looks on like a proud father.
LOL this is really REALLY what some Americans think.🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
It makes you wonder how many gun-toting viewers nodded in agreement while listening to this speech.
OOF!
Um, none of us. We understand sarcasm, misinformation, and hypocrisy.
@@toddgaak422 You may understand those concepts, but many gun nuts don't.
@@DavidLS1 We could look at the founders' own quotes and see what the 2nd amendment is about
@@mahaffer71 Just as long as you take into account that the Founders only had muskets and flintlocks.
Hands Espensen doesn't know what a millitia is.
Hands Espensen is a very good research lawyer, and no doubt knows exactly what Judge Learned Hand (not a pun) wrote on the definition/composition of the militia. Hint: the National Guard isn't one.
I don't think most folks understand that a militia isn't a military. It's more akin to those backyard doomsday preppers.
I’m astonished how adept the actors in this series mastered pages of dialogue!
To be fair, actual lawyers and prosecutors do exactly the same thing for their own closing statements. At least you can have multiple takes as an actor, I’m surprised underpaid public defenders don’t go insane.
Deny crane
"The right of the people" funny how they didn't write it as "The right of the militia".
I mean if you think they took the careful time and detail to write the first 13 words so carefully, then why did they switch to "the right of the people" instead of continuing to speak about the militia?
The more fun part is that at the time of writing there was no standing army. All we had was state militia's, so what the founders are saying is the people will regulate the militia because we are armed too.
Honestly it's pretty straight forward. A militia is specifically distinguished from a standing *army*. An army is a tool of the government. A militia is made up of the people. You can't have a militia - well regulated or not - unless the people are already armed.
@@RKD0668”regulated” meant equipped at that point in time. Hence the British Soldier was often call regulars…meaning uniformed and equipped soldiers.
The 2A should be read, in modern terms, as "The right of the *people* to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, because they need to form militias when the *free state* is in danger, be it from a foreign power, or an overreaching government."
@@chrisnln1619 We could look at the founders' own quotes and see what the 2nd amendment is about
Can you imagine being handed this monologue and hearing 'you have a week'.
( spoiler; notice lot of frenetic jump cuts near the end )
Still remember that judge riding a tri cycle in Laugh In.Maybe b4 u youngsters time
Denny Crane
The 2 most feared words in this or any other language
Donny Crane
@@stankolev2485 Denny Crane
@@ATLienForLife Donny Crane
@@stankolev2485 And so it would continue into perpetuity. 😁
"A well educated population, being necessary to the economic prosperity of the nation, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed."
Now after reading that alternate wording, do you believe the amendment only applies to those individuals enrolled in an accredited university course? Of course not. That's how ridiculous it is to say that the 2nd amendment only applies to individuals serving in a military capacity. The 2nd amendment codifies an individual right to gun ownership (within reasonable limits determined through precedent and judicial review) for any lawful purpose, explicitly, though not exclusively, for the purposes of membership in an old school 18 century militia.
Couldn't have said it better my self. The Bill of Rights are a set of restrictive and declarative statements say to the Federal Government: Keep your hands off, these are the peoples, not yours.
I'll have to remember this one next time I'm arguing with someone about it
Yes, you have made a strong case that apples aren't oranges. Unfortunately your argument falls flat when you bait and switch the words "population" for "militia" and "educated" for "regulated."
Just take a look at the two terms side by side and decide if you really want to hinge your world view on "well regulated militia" being equivalent language to "well educated population."
I give you a C-. You'll probably only convince people who already agree with you.
@@Jermbot15I award you 0/10. You seem to have missed the point entirely. The point is that words have meaning. And if you don't like the words then our democratic process gives you all the opportunity you care to take in affecting change. The 2A is crystal clear. If you don't like the words, then work to change them. But don't pretend you don't understand their meaning.
@@joshmccollen700 Words do have meanings, and the meanings of your words fall short of making a sane or convincing argument. Which is why you're so quickly trying to change the subject to... me voting I guess?
You may feel, deep in your emotional little heart, that you have clarity. I envy that simplicity.