Doordash High Paying Program: 5 Major Issues & a Solution
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2022
- Doordash is a popular food delivery service that has been making headlines lately for all the wrong reasons. In this video, we're going to discuss 6 major issues with the doordash high paying program and how to solve them.
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I declined 10 $3 orders and they have the audacity to be mad at me. Tell the customers to tip the drivers, and then I’ll accept the orders.
Really DD should just pay more
how'd you know the customer was pissed if you didn't accept the orders? or is that a guess??
This is the wrong mindset. The problem lies within doordash, not the customer.
@@julianbrittain3678 Exactly. We shouldn't be relying on customer tips to survive.
Merchants are cancelling decent orders to drivers who haven't been taking their low ball offers. I'm going to keep a list and not deliver for them at all. There's 5 off the top of my head so far. I've been faithful to ue for almost 3 years but i got to let them go cause I'm going bankrupt. 2 years in a row I had savings from other means bout $8k and I used it paying bills. Which means I'm out here working for free.
Merchants are very selfish in thinking that we don't deserve higher pay. They could help by increasing their food to 50cts/$3 more for delivery and add that to our pay.
I purposely got me a small car for deliveries and to save in gas this year but they doubled the gas prices and although it went down a bit. It's going back up!
TO ALL MERCHANTS
I PAY CAR NOTE
I PAY INSURANCE
I PAY FLAT OR RIPPED TIRES
I PAY OIL CHANGE
I PAY BAD BATTERY
I PAY TOWING
I PAY GETTING LOCKED OUT OF MY CAR FOR RUSHING BECAUSE OF DOUBLE ORDERS.
I PAY CLEANING SUPPLIES
BUT...MY BIGGEST EXPENSE IS GAS.
THAT'S $30 TO $50 PER SHIFT $720 TO $1120MTH. USED TO BE $1200/1440+MTH W/MY SUV.
I PAY FULL TAXES
"HOW DARE YOU ALL THINK IT'S OKAY TO PUSH OUT $1 TO $5 ORDERS AND DOUBLE THAT FOR MILES. I HAVE HAD OFFERS FOR $4 FOR 9 TO 12 MILES. ALSO $8/$9 OFFERS FOR 16/26 MILES. HAD A FEW SIMILAR TO $13 FOR $44 MILES.
THEN NO ONE THINKS ABOUT US GETTING BACK TO WORK AREA.
THIS IS NOT A NECCESITY IT IS A LUXURY EVEN IF SUBPAR CAUSE WE'RE AVERAGE PEOPLE IN REGULAR NON FANCY CLOTHES BUT OUR INVESTMENTS INTO THIS INDUSTRY ALONE. MAKES US WELL DESERVING PARTNERS WHO NOT ONLY DESERVE YOUR/EMPLOYEES RESPECT BUT ALSO HIGHER PAY.
AS IN $10 TO $50+ PER ORDER FLAT FEE+ MILES.
IT IS NOT JUST THE MILEAGE YOU SHOULD BE PAYING FOR. IT'S OUR TIME AND EFFORT. DRIVING IN TRAFFIC CITIES IS NOT AN EASY TASK. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING N TAKES A TOLL ON OUR MIND AND BODIES AS WELL AS NOT SO NICE CUSTOMERS.
"WE DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT"
WE ARE TIRED THAT YOU ALL THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES INVESTED!
DoorDash exhausts every effort to save money rather than just treat their dashers right
This program was scheduled to end in select markets at the end of September.
One particular YT channel posted videos in early September promoting BS woowoo about the AR and DD saw the results as people bought into this BS (Literally).
You can't fault DD for pushing this program which is a watered down version of the woowoo and increase revenue.
This is ALL on that channel....
so true. if Xu was the business genius he claims to me you’d think he’d realize the solution is simply to treat us fairly.
The program sound like bs to put more money XU pocket.
@@briangbur8743
I know right?
Every other business in the US and World treats their employees with the utmost respect and gratuitous pay...
@@StudioDaVeed without customer tips, DD would be paying be $8-$12 an hour and they're okay with that
DD is exploiting Big Tippers and using their generosity to provide Bad Tippers with an experience they're unwilling to pay for.
Right, the big tippers are subsidizing the bad tippers. Thanks Doordash 🙄
Agreed
Lol I remove the non tipper/low tipper order I got para baby tells me who tipped and who didn't
So true that's the only way I deliver to none tiper is when they combine it with a big tip order
And not everyone is going to be able to tip big but the base pay that doordash are paying no tip order makes no sense
I started doing this gig 1 year ago. Using only 1 app I could reach as much as 165.00 on a 5 hour evening shift. Now it's about 70.00 for a 8 hour shift. I will not sacrifice my vehicle for low paying orders period. I recently took a full time job because of all the nonsense. I will still continue to deliver but only for what makes sense.
Honestly for this type of work, you should never do it full time. Just for the car's sake alone. I do it part time with my regular job. I am now hitting my goals more on the weekend because I multi app with Shipt. The people on there are much more generous with tips. I only turn on DD and Grubhub if I don't hit my daily weekend goals with Shipt.
Absolutely!!!
Facts! I’m not making any money because of the tips.
@@BIPDSHAWAII spark but i think it's weekly pay. It takes about 3 weeks to complete sign up, back ground and processing. I just started cause as to this new month I am potentially 2 mths behind. Ubereats been throwing at me mostly $2 to $4 orders and $5 in between and sporatically $6 and $7.
I am so frustrated and rememberwd I had been approved for sparks and did a few starting new. Downside is no instant cash
It looks to be weekly, I still have to learn the app.
But I came here cause I'm also approved for DD and am trying to figure out how to get instant cash. So I can start working DD.
Someone mentioned Shipt and on another thread someone mentioned Frayt.
Not sure how Courial is doing?
FACTS! it has been this way for me as well..went from $800-$1k a week to a maximum of $450. Wish I could screenshot my earnings b4 this program started approx month ago...thank God for uber I didn't bother with it so much before maybe 1 -5 a wk now I make more w/UE...
I love it! The guy who knows what he’s talking about AND knows he knows what he’s talking about - Mr Bentley for Door Dash President - find an investor to start your own delivery app company -You’d be good at running any type of company. Thanks for the videos!
They quickly changed the definition of "high pay." Yesterday I got a $5.25 "high pay order" going 10 miles. 🤦
EXACTLY
"High pay" only applies to the distance from the store to the house. It's in the description, they're not hiding anything. Scummy but not hidden.
And you took it what a slave and willing
I would never take run like that but we're not the same now go get another booster
DoorDash should notify the Tipper in the app when they order "x amount of a tip will make this a high priority order"
That is a great idea.
Doordash should give dashers the option of setting three parameters.
1. Minimum pay for the order.
2. Minimum pay per mile.
3. Maximum distance to travel for an order.
Offer any order to a dasher that meets 2 of those 3 requirements. Any order that doesn’t meet two or more of those requirements doesn’t even show up.
Problem solved.
Amen! Same for Uber!
That would work for the dasher but not the company. They still want to make money. Nobody’s oils take the low ones. They should implement their pay by order or pay by time everywhere instead of just test cities.
Thank you
YEs!! I'm sick of my Percentage getting hit because they want me to travel 30mins for 7 dollars!
Impossible, same reason why you can't ban a restaurant.
Doordash is pissing on my leg with this program and telling me it's raining my income actually went down since this program started
At first, I was making pretty decent money on the program. However, the past two weeks have been horrible. The orders are so low, and my acceptance rate went from 79% to 59%. I just can’t afford taking orders lower than $7. The lowest offer I got was $2.50 for 5 miles from McDonald’s. I don’t accept anything under $7 unless I’m super close and it’s less than 2 miles. The problem is like you said, we feel like we have to take shitty orders to stay in the program. I refuse to do it.
Your keeping up a 60% rate and not taking bad orders? Stop 🙄
Thr past 2 weeks for me have been rough and i never have over 30% acceptance.
I think its just a little slow before the holidays
Last two weeks of the month are worse than the first two weeks. It has to do with people who get paid at the end or beginning of the month.
@@kileNoe it relates to the holidays. When i worked food service when the holidays came business would cut on half
@@Nelson4207 seriously?! I’m interested in knowing where she lives!
All of these "programs" meant for Dashers are truly meant for Doordash only. They know what we are paying for gas, groceries, rent & everything else that has gone up lately but instead of helping us Dashers they want more profits just like most other companies...it's frustrating 😑 it's disheartening & that's why a lot of good dashers are leaving. The experience for the customers is suffering because of these things & they are also paying more for the food so....
I have only been doing this for 2 months now, and from the beginning I keep getting the notification to increase my acceptance to 50% to receive those high priority orders. I came of age in the 70s and my general belief has always been to be skeptical of anyone trying to get you to do something for your benefit. Applies here I think. I haven't accepted their offer.
Nothing Doordash tries to get you to do is in your best interest.
The obvious solution to all of this is trip supplementation but DD absolutely refuses to go that route. Personally I think they are digging their own grave.
I'll be there to piss on the dirt
Sad but true.
Absolutely agree! Why not charge a surcharge for over a certain distance? It only makes sense to increase base pay for that to maybe make them half decent…
One thing you didn't mention that is really bothering me about this program is that they have many times resent me the exact same order I just declined, not even bundling it into a stack! The other day they did it so rapid fire that I couldn't even hit "pause dash" to get the bombardment to stop. How can they hit your acceptance rate multiple times for only ONE actual real order, and then tell you that you won't be prioritized for high paying orders if your acceptance rate is too low? That is a truly crazy level of abuse 😵 One day last week in less than an hour I went from a 56% ar to 47% on only two actual real orders that were send to me multiple times.
This happens to me too. They say I declined three orders when it's actually the same shitty one sent three times.
That crap happens to me quite a lot! This one order from MickeyD’s hit me hard… I knew where the order was going already since the guy orders every week Same time of night and tips (i Kid you not) 10 CENTS!!!
Yesssss happens to me all the time smh
Me too. It's some kind of bullshit
@@nancydavis8155 That's a freaking joke at that rate he should pick up that crappy order of his own .
I've been doing DD just over a year now. I used to be able to easily make $150-$200 on a 5 or 6 hour shift, EASILY. These days, I find myself either; A) Working longer shifts and driving more miles to make the same amount of money, or; B) Cutting my losses on a normal shift. It's super frustrating and downright discouraging to walk away with $70 when you know you were able to make double that a few months earlier... and factoring in gas prices and car maintenance, it's almost not worth it to be doing all this driving to make at or below minimum wage PLUS beat up your car. DD is great because it's a flexible job and I absolutely love driving and delivering, but it seems that they are doing everything EXCEPT treat their dashers better.
Mentioning the so called "crap orders" is an interesting observation as well. These days, I find myself receiving so many more of these kinds of orders that are less than $1 per mile. The worst I've gotten has been $2 for 20 miles, and it seems like I get at least one or two of these extremely outrageous orders every shift.
I wish I can make that in 5 hours
YES! I used to make about $70-80 in a 3 hour lunch time window. Now? It can take all day to make that.
I remember making 200+ in 7hrs and today I dont even think I hit 100. Made less than 10 an hour for 7hrs. Super depressed and discouraged,
You know another thing that’s crazy is that alot of restaurants are increasing delivery fees.. people don’t even think of tipping as much anymore. It’s outrageous and I am going through the same right now. Last spring I could make 100-200 for a good 6-8 hrs now it’s less than a 100 some days and I quit driving alot earlier nowdays
I’ve also been jerked around in my GPS toward the end of a shift. I would’ve been able to pick up another order, but was making about twenty turns in a residential area trying to find the address. Once I finally delivered the order and left, I realized once I was back on a main road that I could’ve just stayed on that road and taken two other turns, then gone directly to the address and onto another order. I drove quite a few miles for this order too.
Yeah, but WHY is DD so focused suddenly on acceptance rate? Because people aren't delivering all these no tip orders. I deliver no tip orders, as long as the base pay makes it worth my while. But DD wants to be stingy with the base pay, and when there's no tip, nobody in their right mind will deliver these long distance, 1 item orders.
This "high priority" program is just DD's way of getting all these no tip low pay orders delivered. Tipping customers suffer because of the no tip customers. The no tip customers get stacked onto the tipping customers like leeches. And dashers suffer because of the no tip customers, too. DD needs to up the pay to subsidize the non-tippers, rather than using this "priority program" carrot-on-a-stick, or stacking orders on the backs of tipping customers, as a way to subsidize dashers' pay when people aren't tipping.
But no, DD shifts the subsidizing of these orders onto the dashers and the tipping customers, who share the burden of delivering a burrito bowl to an apartment 8 miles away for $3.75 (when they stack it and say it's just a half mile away from the tipping customer's order that's paying $16.75 - that customer has to wait while we deal with a no-tip burrito bowl and no gate code for the apartment complex - DD shifts the problem onto the driver and the tipping customer to keep from raising the base pay)
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 FACTS 💯💯
Can't count the times I declined a no tip order only to be given it back stacked w another 15 seconds later. I usually accept it then drop the no tip, unless it's literally on the way. But even then I feel like an idiot, like I'm encouraging this customers bad behavior, but yet I'll take that extra $2-3.
That sounds my area to the T..you are 100% correct...Doordash is looking out for Doordash not the Dasher.
@@normalrationalguy1980 I need to start dropping the no tipper from my stacked orders. Their behavior needs to be stopped.
This bc they hid a double order and showed it to me as a single order. Neither person tipped and both had gate codes but didn't bother to list the codes at all. Crazy.
I dash in Charlotte/Belmont area. I was making between $150-$175 a day working from 8am-2:30pm. Now that this program has started, I have literally been only making $80-$95 a day, same days and times. This is ridiculous and just sad. The orders that I'm receiving are either upside down orders or just way to low ($2.50 for 7miles). Sending me a $2 order and saying that this is a high priority order is crazy. Door dash needs to do better.
highly ridiculous!!!
They are going to tank soon anyway with the way the economy is going. Just watch.
The program isn’t getting me enough orders
Me too man I hate it
Your videos got me goin way better than I was. I was in a groove of steady 200 dollar days. With this new change I’ve been getting killed. I hate the changes they made. It’s been a struggle out here lately
bro im in the same exact situation.
This is my 3rd day dashing and I made 210 today alone, but maybe it’s because I live in atl and this shi overpopulated
@Andre Clark You startout as top dasher the first month. It will end eventually and you'll be in the same boat.
@@heavyd9346 I’m not saying that to be cocky or anything, I’m aware it’s because I’m a new dasher and I agree with buddy, this program shit they got goin on is new age slavery
@@1Andre_ then on your profile your next comment says this is new age slavery and your new 🤣
Happy To see that I’m not the only one seeing this! If you don’t take the crap orders your punished!
Also have you noticed that when you accept an order for example $12 do the dash the pay jumps down to $9! I’ve been noticing this on a few orders.
#craporders
I dash in the “South Bay” area of Los Angeles. My acceptance rate was reset about 2 weeks ago so I can participate in this program. ALL of the “high priority “ orders I have seen pay around $7.00 each. I have only seen 2 orders that paid slightly above $10 ($10.25 & $10.75). And I’ve definitely been accepting orders I didn’t want to take in order to keep my acceptance rate high enough to stay in the program. On average, only 1 in 10 orders have been part of the high priority program. PLUS gas has been between $6.50-$7.50 per gallon here!!!! This program isn’t worth it and I will no longer be playing their game to keep my acceptance rate high enough for the program.
@Willy Baker In a world where you can be anything, chose to be kind.
Yeah my high priority thing lasted two weeks. One or two with a dollar or two more than they might otherwise have been for me. I don’t need those exact orders, but like what I would’ve gotten. And after it ended on the 15th, I’ve still gotten my typical 7-8 $ orders so much higher some a tad lower.
I had only a half hour - tonight as I had appointments earlier and that’s all that was available for later. I literally turned everything down and they were coming in. It wasn’t like with nothing comes in. What was it and everything was like 525 tips included. After I turned a bunch of those down (some of them were only going like a mile; it was more on principal like for my first dash to bother leaving the house I like it to be at least $7 -8. 675 being the lowest. I’ll still take a five dollar - can I have a mile if it’s like breakfast time and I’m out in the area anyway. But for the most part I try not to take anything below 675 and 3 miles or less for the simple fact that that’s what most of them are around here. But tonight I did get a couple orders for 11 and even one for 14 but they were just going further than I felt comfortable at this time of day. Aside from ridiculous traffic, I have to be home before it gets pitch black out because I can’t see anything. On the 14 was going to two different houses and shopping for four items.
But yeah it’s not worth taking things that just cost you money to do for your break even. Or if you make a whole dollar you’re lucky? 😂 just found these videos and it’s nice to see people dealing with similar issues. I’ve looked on Facebook groups, but everybody’s quite snarky in there for the most part. I shouldn’t say everybody, but you know what I mean hopefully.
My first three "high priority" were below 5 dollars, and that's all I needed to know
I'm just happy that I'm not the only one who sees this as well, I feel like Doordash is screwing their drivers over with this new promotion for their company which defeats the purpose in my opinion, so thanks for this, I thought I was losing my mind. Cheers
I dash in Denver on bike. My orders average about 1 mile. On the new program, if I'm under 50% I don't get any orders. Not just no bad orders, but hardly any at all.
The high priority orders are no better than the ones I used to get.
The program is clearly a punishment.
I’m in Denver too Greely it’s snowing it’s really busy today 😂
If DD required a person-to-person contact when delivering the food, watch the tips increase. Think about it.
Did u hear about doordash deactivating a gig UA-cam Chanel’s doordash account? It’s called Uber Lyft phoenix, and doordash didn’t pay him 1700 hundred dollars…
I need doordash to listen to you, and HEAR what you're saying 🥰
Oh and I got my acceptance rate up, just to see what this is all about. Yes I get higher paying order, but they're all long distance. Way less then $1 per mile, plus take me out of the zone.
Your nailed it my friend. Definitely my thoughts exactly! Thank you for speaking up on this. Doordash needs to reveal tips too on their offers
I completely agree. I have to take horrible orders just to keep my acceptance rate somewhat high. Sometimes I just cut my dash early because all I'm getting is bad orders. #CrapOrders
not to mention the service outage days
#Craporders4~real
I just flat out decline and my acceptance rate was 0- 2 weeks ago. Lately I’ve been taking more orders to keep the acceptance rate up… now it’s like 19%
Same
It may be seen as impolite, but sometimes you have to call it like it is, including words like craporders
I’m listed as getting high priority. I’m often still having to take several orders that are less than $1 per mile.
I delivered nine lunchboxes to a dentist office yesterday. DD paid me $3 and the dentist paid zero in tips.
The individual not tipping is annoying. The business buying lunch for their staff and not tipping is bad business. I now know that business thinks they are too good to tip their food delivery people so guess which business I feel zero inclination to ever patronize? DDDrivers are potential customers. Businesses forget that.
Go back and throw a brick
You accepted a $3.00 offer .. Drivers like you are the problem.
I text the customer and tell them it's not acceptable we work on tips and many drivers won't deliver their order
It's simple. If Uber is busy there's absolutely no reason for me to turn on Doordash.
Bro so true, Uber kills it when orders are coming in. Only thing better is GrubHub but it's so hard to schedule shifts where I am (Norman, ok) without the highest rating that it's almost impossible to use it. Your comment is on point
Sorry fellas in my Ultra Hot 🔥 Market DoorDash kills it. I even stopped doing UberEats completely. I'm now a Top Dasher, Qualified for Catering + Priority Shopper...when I Multi-app'd DD would Never let me qualify for these...u need them to make the top big bucks! Great White Shark 🦈 out..
Hit it perfectly! It took me less than a week after my reset to be back where my AR usually hangs out. My CS rating is back at ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Tonight I've done 11 deliveries between 4PM to 9PM. I've got 8 orders as priority orders and 1 of them tipped me $27 on a 6 miles trip. FYI, my Acceptance Rate is at 17% 😄 🤣
The $27 one only came to you because other drivers took the good stuff. This one slipped in the cracks and you got it. It happens.
Thats cause ur a boss
Literally same thing just happened too me. Im at 24%
Mines 1% lol
How much did you make in that 5 hours?
Always interested in your perspectives. I remember finding your channel in early 2020 before i signed up to dash.
Now im closing in on 10k deliveries and my life has changed for the best.
I cant blame doordash for doing this, and other youtubers have given it the test. It just seems like the algorithm cant actually give dashers priority on anything.
You supopsedly have priority orders... yet you still get trash you gotta take to maintain... just dont make sense.
They will never go back to that $6 guaranteed minimum because they got sued for doing that. But I agree. I was making more money and accepting WAY more orders when doordash was "stealing our tips".
DD needs to place this guy in a management position. My opinion is the customer thinks the Dasher is getting those high delivery fees. I’ve conducted several non scientific no tipping runs and actually asked the customer how much they thought I was getting paid doing their food run. Often, many thought I was getting paid 8 to 10 dollars to drive 3 or 4 miles to complete the delivery. When I showed them I was getting $2.50, they were dumbfounded. I was nice about it, and told them the only reason I took the order in the first place was just to educate myself from the customer perspective as to the logic of not tipping..
I think The goal is not only to get us to take more of the lowball orders and make them more money but also to get more people to quit because they are oversaturated. We all know that’s the goal with some of the biggest food companies. They want higher turnover, less skilled employees to do more dirty work before they figure out how not to do so much dirty work and get a raise. 🤔
Forced my acceptance rating above 50 and then 70 per cent, and from my own experience, it was very worth it. the changes to peak pay make the lowest paying orders not hurt as bad, and the amount of $20 plus orders I get offered has skyrocketed. I'm now making my goal 2 to 3 hours before I used to every day.
OK Tony.
Ever since my acceptance rate went over 70% I have gotten a very high percentage of $15+ orders daily...and sometimes I would swear I am the only person certified in my region to deliver alcohol...and those deliveries are usually bank! (The state I live in mandates you pass a state-run online class and get a certificate to deliver ANY alcohol)
When you’re no longer being offered orders? You leave the platform. Mission accomplished!!!
Thx for crunching the numbers…they confirmed my reaction to their ‘offer’ to take their trash offers…I didn’t reset…income dropped due to lack of fair paying offers…no pizza offers vs 4/5 per work session…I am just not going to drive long miles for no profit
Here’s what I want to know. In my area, I see delivery fees of $7.99-$12.99. I also deliver in my area and those same restaurants are sending $3-5 offers. Customers are tipping less because of the delivery fees and DoorDash is paying less as well. I went from a 37% acceptance rate to 12% on one dash because of the orders I received. $2.75 for 9 miles!! Ha!! No. I’ve done this very part time for about a year now but what I don’t understand is how they can justify such crazy delivery fees and still only pay out $2-3. What I have noticed is they have increased peak pays and I think the reason for this is two-fold: first, there’s less and less dashers on the road lately and second, they’re trying to make up for the dip in base pay. It’s such b.s. Pay us a reasonable rate and we’re happy to work. Don’t and we find other ways to hustle.
I'm in the high pay program and when there are high pay orders out there I definitely get to see them first. Last night I didn't have to decline not one order. I made $107 in 3 hours. Not every day is like that but when there are high pay orders I get to see them. So that's cool.
What's your acceptance rate?
@@GigTube 88%
@@Ella_And_MommaTera
My acceptance rate was 90% two weeks ago, but stupid DD wants me to accept $2.50 orders for 6.3 miles, and if I decline it drops my acceptance rate.
I'm about to file a compliant against them and get in contact with corporate because that's ridiculous!!
They keep this nonsense up they won't exist as a company for much longer!!
We’re struggling up here around the lake too. Lots of 2.25 and 3.25 for way too may miles and lots of upside down orders too
Yes, I agree - DoorDash needs a minimum especially when the orders are long distance. One example, I drove 45 minutes by the time I got back to the hotspot for $6.25. I have to pay for gas and the car maintenance, so it’s lower. :(
Thanks for the videos.
My area is oversaturated with drivers and I can confirm that when you pass below 50% acceptance it is night and day. You go from getting many offers to very few in a short period of time, almost like the switch was flicked. When there isn't enough to go around and everyone is in the program, there is no advantage to being in or out of it. In short, damned if you do damned if you don't.
This is exactly whats happening in my area. Super depressed.
My area is over saturated too. A lot of top dashers here. I opted in for this ridiculous pilot program and on the first day my AR went down to 17% because they started sending pizza orders for restaurants that were across town. So, naturally I'm not gonna take it because I make nothing off of it when I factor in the gas prices (I'm in California and our lowest per gallon is about $4.59). My AR has been at 0% and I've made 0 deliveries in the past week. If I'm not getting an order for a restaurant across town, the amount for a closer order is generally from $3.00-$5.25. It's absolutely ridiculous! I can't make any money with DD anymore. I'm trying to find a full time job now just so I never have to run DD again! What can we, as dashers, do about this problem?
@@jaded001
DoorDash is digging there own grave.
@@Userkaf_II I absolutely agree 💯
Thank you so much for breaking this down! I've been hitting my head against the wall trying to explain this to other drivers that are running to reset their acceptance rate.
Also drivers need to stop focusing so much on the $ per mile and more on the $ per minute. Time is money, so start thinking about how long is an order going to take to complete.
Driving a mile in Manhattan can take an hour, driving a mile in Montana can take less than a minute.
There is no quick fix to us earning more.
Doordash has to go back to a guaranteed minimum, show full payout, full transparency, etc. Drivers have to work smarter taking all the delivery factors into account and perform a high level of service so customers keep ordering. This is a luxury service not essential.
Money per mile is what saves on gas though. Lowering that standard of mine ended up making me work longer hours with less pay.
Well said, I live an a major city where there's a huge difference of driving east/west and north/south. There also really steep hills in areas that will abso kill your car even though the delivery milage is only 2 miles. I've learn to run 3 delivery apps at once and build my own doubles ,triple and quads. Or I just pause one all while I work on the other/s . The lessons is do not rely on one platform.
Thank you for posting your observations and opinions you are a great service to the community!
I totally agree with you Bentley and thank you for all you do and your videos.
I always wonder who does them orders that are like $3.00 for 10 miles
It’s a joke in Charlotte, all the orders I get up there send me out of district and waste my time
Truth. But one thing I realized is that since we're surrounded by zones, if they want to send me out of uptown, with a good order, I'll just dash where I end up. I'm not doing that head back to your zone nonsense. I end dash and then restart it in the zone they sent me to. Also in our market, I found dash along the way is pretty helpful too because it keeps them from sending you in a direction you don't want to go. I live in west Charlotte and can't ever start my dash from there or I'll end up on the other side of Wilkinson no man's land. So I say I want to dash in one of the other zones like Myers park or northlake and then "dash along the way" which gives me orders in the exact spot I want them actually in uptown.
@@inbornwanderlust1076 that’s usually what I do, I’m I’m out of district then I just jump to the next one but it also depends on how far out I want to go, I stay in Monroe and go up to Charlotte on the weekends
@@paulhodge9134 Oh, I feel you. Yeah that's a tough situation you are in. Uptown is such a tight zone, and you're right that they always want to send you way out of it. Since that's where I'm starting from I'm like whatever, there's a zone on all sides so I'll adapt. But yeah, if I was already traveling to here from where you're at, it would be infuriating. Coming into uptown from the monroe side, I would say that you need to pause when you get into the zone and get yourself on the west side of Eastway Drive before you resume. That will get you into Plaza Midwood/ city center which has a much higher volume of better restaurants. South End is really dense with decent restaurants also. There are a lot of short mile orders there but the trade off is it's apartment hell. I have found that a lot of people are pretty good with extra delivery instruction though.
I remember when DD had a minimum guaranteed amount. I agree with you about having a high AR when that was in place. It's gotten horrible since this new program was implemented. My AR has been at 0% and I've taken no deliveries in the past week. I'm in California where our average gas price is $4.59 for regular unleaded. If I take an order that's less than $1.50 per mile I'm losing money on these #craporders 😭
100 percent for a guaranteed minimum! I would take all the orders for a guaranteed $5 per order for my area.
My acceptance rate was 42% 2 weeks ago now I'm at 92% but I had to accept a LOT of low ball orders smh. DD tripping. #CrapOrders
Simple solution that I see is mandatory 10 percent tip on all orders, or you cannot order. They include at least 10 percent tip in the bill at a lot of restaurants. People will still order. Acceptance rate of nearly every dasher would probably go to at least 90 percent. People with no tips shouldn't be allowed to order period.
Exactly!!
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What started out as a pretty good side gig about a year ago is now an aggravating frustration on its best day. Keeping a reasonable acceptance rate in order to get any good deliveries is virtually impossible. The algorithm will tear you down again and again just when you get close to that. 70% mark. DoorDash does not care and it is no longer worth the time, the money or the aggravation. As much as I would like to, I cannot afford to subsidize DoorDash but that is apparently what they expect from us.
#craporders I’ve been making less money after I opted in to the program. The majority of orders that they have been pushing, are ones I would normally reject. Like $3 for 8 miles, or most recently $7.25 for 19 miles.
I do agree with the guaranteed minimum and that structure that you're saying. It would definitely help us - us out a lot
My average order for dd for me was $6 and medium miles (4-6miles) and when I switched to uber, $9.50.for Two miles was the average and they were having a pay per hour guarantee. The wing spot had me waiting for while and the 3rd (bc they triple stacked me during this time) order was 20 miles away so I woke up to additional pay bc my base order amount wasn't $16 per hour.
I'm a top dasher but most times I get so frustrated with the orders they send me that I just go home....it makes no sense to even do this
Thank you 🙏 I agree with you wholly. Yes, I loved the offers when I started, this here it’s painful to see all those crappy orders still sitting there waiting for a newbie to come to its rescue. My friend, he’s disabled and relies on newbies to pick up hi order because he doesn’t tip. We battle about tipping more, he isn’t budging…
Agree 100% about the guaranteed min. I tell DD this in the comments every time I decline an order because the base is too low #craporders - I simply state "raise the base"! Hope they hear you and make your suggestion happen.
I get snarky, like "c'mon really?" or "$2.50 is a total insult."
It all depends on market and number of dashers in your zone. My acceptance rate is 20% and I am constantly getting high pay orders regardless.
@@ShaneAlan1 😂😂😂 facts
I hit 80% by accident. At anything over 80% my app says "first priority"... All bangers, all day. I'm kinda liking it.
Another reason I won’t be partaking in this is I spent all morning, bout 4-5 hours taking every order to get my accept rate up. Within about 5 minutes maybe they sent me 6-7 double orders that were just terrible so it kinda erased all the progress I made. I was done with it after that.
Before the pilot program , I was taking orders for less money and receiving less orders . Ever since I’ve been on The program , I’ve actually received more orders but before the program I was below 50% acceptance and now I’m at 78% so if your accept rate is over 70 , you do actually get more orders . What I do is work the busy times only with the pilot program and I still make the same amount of money as if I worked the slow times without the pilot program
with the orders/‘money you have to take in order to be in the program it all equals out. it’s not beneficial
It isn’t but I have gotten better offers where I find it hardest mr to decline. Plus the psychological fame they pjj kg ah with the higher number to get to green.
The pilot program works great in Shreveport Louisiana. I’m also in a market where most driver’s cherry pick. Best advise is get your acceptance rate up and let doordash cherry pick for you. Everybody going to receive bad orders regardless. Sometimes you have to let door dash make some money too. They have to make money to give away peak pay. You have to become apart of the team to succeed. Have there back they definitely have yours.😊
You are doing a good job with your content.
You used to be able to try unassigning and you could see in stacked orders, who tipped what. Now Doordash is so triggered by this they don't even let you do THAT anymore. If you try it, it just says something like, "If you unassign this order, you won't get paid for it" or something. Now they hide numbers from apartment addresses so unless you're familiar with the apartment addresses in your city (I am) you don't know it's an apartment until you pick it up. And I also seriously hate the "safety check ins" they spam you with even if you turn off the option.
Thanks for breaking it down. Good info!
No matter what program they try to make if you are the best dasher for the delivery they will always send you the offer. These programs only effect small markets. If you are in a large market ignore it completely and keep cherry picking.
Some people tend to have the opinion that you may shill a bit for DD. I personally think you have a well balanced perspective in general. We clearly rely on one another as far as the business to contractor relationship goes. I'm glad to hear you carry the general opinion on this matter that most of us have. Bonus points for attempting to find a solution that would be mutually beneficial rather than complaining without having anything to add. I've been seeing that a lot in the community.
We are not in this to subsidize DoorDash and we do it for profit... Not a loss. When doordash sends you a a $6 order to go 16 mi one way that is worth complaining about. Period 👍🏻. A support rep recently told me that they are considering a brand new pay model because so many dashers are upset about the low earnings recently so they know what's going on but I've said it before and I'll say it again... In fact, let me shout it... DOORDASH DOES NOT CARE 👎🏻
I appreciate your delivery of every thing you talk about! You are really a caring person who knows helping others never hurts. Thanks BK #detroit
Someone mentioned to watch the video, You make really good points on this issue.
I think customers should have to pay .50 per mile delivery fee and a mandatory tip. That would lower the amount DD has to increase pay on a lot of no tip orders.
What?! That's counter productive. Fees = less/no tip.
I’m surprised that you got a hidden tip. I did one for $8.00 (with 💎 High Priority 💎 and it was just $8.00 and another that was still $5) not sure, unless it’s a busy area, I’m still not risking a 10 mile order.
NGL at first I was excited to get a reset and higher priority orders cos it was all good and my acceptance rate was at 40%. But now that it's been a couple of week's, they started throwing me the "high priority " crap orders and it's challenging to keep up. I have to drive UE and Lyft just to get along now which is okay but when the orders on DD are decent I can come out with $2+per mi in my area and don't have to switch between apps.
I think it's trash that we also only get ONE reset on our acceptance rate in our DD career. It's almost setting us up for failure. Not to mention that $2 cash out fee sucks too.
My initial impression was that the high priority orders would be $2+ pr mi which would give you mostly $10+ order's.
Instead of making the drivers jump thru all the hoops they can make the customer jump thru hoops as well since what we do should be considered a LUXURYservice and not a necessity. The app shouldn't even be able to process orders that have a $5 & under order.
Fellow Charlotte Dasher 💯 I appreciate all the tips they've helped a bunch man goodluck to you !
As a cherry picker I didn't have high hopes but I gave it a try because I haven't been able to dash at all lately. It gave me good orders and clown orders so I still cherry picked. My acceptance rate is still to low. I don't think $2/mi is to much to ask for. I rarely get anything higher pay than that.
Thank you so much for everything!
I'm just outside the Austin, TX market and just finished my 3rd day as a Dasher. My day started good with 2 orders in 35 minutes for $17. In 5 1/2 hours, I only ended up with 8 deliveries and $61.02. A "high priority" order was for $5.27 and it didn't say distance. I accepted it, when usually I wouldn't, and I got sent 18.54 miles away...and the "tip" was $.02 on this order. This one order cost me an hour on back country roads & out of any hot spots. #craporder
After only 3 days, I am already fed up with the app freezing, pausing me and completely not working when I show up for a pickup.
How about DD consider $8-10/hr pay, base pay and a $5.00 minimum tip??
We want to be able to support ourselves & families just as much as DD is able to do....
based video. hope DD gets their shit together
I get high priority in one city but in another city I don't get high priority. I'm confused. I even called them and asked and the non English speaking person couldn't help me.
Same here
@@mychristianlife2667 it's annoying
@@TamikaX ya I really don't understand it to be honest
@@mychristianlife2667 right
HAHAHA that intro! 🤣 Same for me brother.
Yeah ive already seen my daily earnings take about a 50-75 dollar hit with this program. Most of the dashers in my area are sticking with the program, and even though Im a top dasher (get AR up at end of month and then cherry pick next month till end) Ive been getting wayyyy less orders. I hadnt seen a catering order in 2 and a half weeks until today when my AR was back up in the 60s (I typically saw at least 3-6 of those a week before this program. Something weird is happening.
By my calculations, you are 100% spot on! Thanks for doing the leg work on this topic…I have NOT jumped into this program, as of yet.
#Craporders All day every day in my area.
Hey B, I have a theory. Lemme know what you think. Ever since I passed 5000 deliveries and I'm creaping up on 8000, I'm seeing less and less low ballers. Majority I get are $6.50 and up with a LOT of high ballers. I average about $150-200 per day during non-peak months of the year. My weekly average is around $1200. My theory is that the higher past 5000 to 6000 deliveries I go the better my average is and yes I do take $4.75 orders bcos it balances out what I give in return for the preference on large orders. Sry for the long explanation. And I average 150 deliveries a week. Also, I have had a 5.00 for 6 months.
Thank you Bentley!❤️
From what I understand, most low orders are being made by the restaurants, not the customers themselves.
Customers call the restaurants, and the restaurants place their order on doordash for them.
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I feel ya Bentley thanks for the videos
I completely agree with you!!
My first dash is tomorrow my buddy has been dashing / grub hubbing etc for a few years and he pretty much said the same thing you did.
You are 100% correct about that guaranteed payment. When I started, several years ago, that guaranteed payment had my acceptance rate at a very high level. Now? Pscht! My acceptance rate fluctuates between 10 - 30%, depending on how bad the orders are in a week. Go back to the guarantee pay, I will do accept far more than I reject.
I'm still gathering information about this new program. My pay has gone up in October and I do see a lot of these offers coming through. Yet, something feels very off. Thank you for this video. Good info
I was in the program for about a week my customer rating has consistently been 5.0 for over a year now. My online or early was 87% my acceptance rate was 88% then down to 58% in about 2 hours and my completion rate was low I honestly don’t remember the exact number but I do know I called support all the time bc I would get stuck waiting at restaurants for 20 mins waiting for an order or the restaurant would send the wrong food and the customer would not accept it or I was in a really bad neighborhood and felt unsafe. I’ve never not completed an order after picking up the food. And every time support said they documented the call and it would not be held against me. Today I get an email saying the deactivated my acct and get this I’m not able to even speak to anyone regarding this issue nor can I appeal it. What?? They can’t be serious. I’m a newly single mom and this is my only income at the moment and today I spent all day on the phone trying to talk to someone and getting disconnected. I’m so upset and have no idea what to do now
There are several things that have changed. The offer of promo pay for a certain amount of time (9:30-11:30am) and it disappearing, or not available, or the full promo time unavailable ( only 11:00-11:30 available). Also, I used to deliver orders, and wherever I delivered to, I was able to pick up orders in that area. No longer; the app puts me outside of my delivery area, and I have to travel back to my zone for orders. This now makes me miss out on high-paying orders, because I can no longer pick up orders in that dropoff area. I spoke to several CSAs about this DD change, and all they say is thanks for the feedback, and they will TRY to find out what's going on. No one can tell me why the change is happening...Please respond, Bentley
I cant get my acceptance rate out of the 40s because I'm not going to take any deliveries that just ain't worth it. I'm in wilmington NC and there are so many orders for $2.25 and I've felt pressured to take them just to move my acceptance rate up but now I'm just over the acceptance rate s*** and don't even worry about it idk what to do sometimes🤷🏽♀️
Thank you and GOD bless you and your family
Are you on the feed back team? Love your videos I'm new to dd
They introduced this and it DESTROYED my market. I typically average $18-22 an hour. The day I got the screen to reset AR and didn’t do it. I make about $7 an hour and hardly get ANYTHING, let alone orders worth taking. I used to get offers about once every 30 seconds, now I’m lucky to get one once every 10 minutes. It’s BAD. I know it won’t stay like that but they have literally said for at least the first week “if you don’t have at least a 50% AR, you’re trash. You won’t get crap.”
Dashing in Bay Area is wack right now in that stupid pilot program, and plus all these promos putting too many dashers on road when it’s not even really busy, wait times are longer just for a trip now 30-40min sometimes an hr, have to use multiple apps now to make close to 20$ per hr