(FULL VIDEO) Doordash Makes Changes to Catering Program
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The shadiest thing DoorDash does is hide tips! It hurts the best paying customers and it’s like playing game with us dashers, but why? 🤦🏻♀️
It isn't the fault of Doordash. It happens when the customer calls the order into the restaurant, or they order on the restaurant app or website. The restaurant does not include the tip and they keep it themselves. Doordash has no knowledge of whether a tip was included by the customer or not, because the restaurant is the one that must send the tip along with the request for a driver. Most restaurant apps and websites will redirect their customers to the Doordash platform to complete the order, but some smaller restaurants, especially those where you call in the order, they simply place a request for a driver from Doordash and keep the tip because the customers payment is processed by the restaurant, and not Doordash. The restaurant simply pays for the delivery, they keep the tip and that's that.
Did you accept every order to increase your acceptance rate to gain priority access?
@@mrbeattiesford no! I will never accept every order. I don’t care about “top dasher” ect. I’ve dashed in 12 different states been doing it for 4 years and I’ve never just took all orders lol. I also know for a fact the whole higher acceptance rate for better paying orders is garbage because I’ve sat next to dashers who had way higher and way lower rates but yet we were all getting the same orders. It’s just a program to get low paying orders picked up in my opinion
@@helenhighwater2254that doesn’t explain why the tips are hidden…you completely ignored that. Doordash hides tip plain and simple.
It's so they don't have to pay out a large amount of the order is canceled and the Dasher gets half pay. It's also so dashers will accept borderline orders in the hopes that there's a bigger tip.
When I get a catering order, if the pay isn’t really large in the beginning, I don’t even even bother with it. I’ve already been burned by these low pay catering orders that never go up once the delivery is completed. If the order doesn’t show a large amount in the beginning, don’t bother with it.
I think DD executives have meetings and say “How can we screw our drivers today???” Ridiculous…
It's easy to know. I didn't see much change here in Tacoma, WA. Except for most cathering orders are coming with extremely laughable pay. The plus sign still show up on some of them. But the risk of driving too far and long wait for non less pay catering orders is very high. Because those costumers are taking advantage of the change.
I think the bigger issue is…why do these companies withhold compensation information?
That this is a practice indicates something is wrong
Man i did 1 dash in the last 4 months,actually had the app deleted, because Doordash changed alot of Rules,payout's,Peak Pay & the ability to Dash Now!
Hell i scheduled a Dash & when it was time to log in It wouldn't let Get on saying it's slow yet i had uber eats on was in a restaurant & seen 3 dashers come & get orders 🤦🏿
Hard work always pays off and I’m still working towards unlocking the clattering badge for sure. 👍
Not really worth it anymore, they are losing to much catering business.
Now its basically gone.
I have the catering benefit I’ve had it for years
$4 on 1.4 miles I took Just because I was going that direction. Saw that the store did the ordering for the doordash and for some reason they left the original order ticket on showing a $75 tip that I got $0 for. There's some real dirty ways some of these stores do this stuff. Sometimes it makes me wonder if some of these $3 orders that I'm denying might actually be better than they seem, but they just feel like we're kissing frogs hoping it turns into a prince.
You should have let the customer see the receipt and let them know you didn't receive the tip. The customer would have certainly called the restaurant and dealt with them. Also should've taken a pic of the receipt and called door dash and let them know as well so they could make sure you got paid.
That's a really good idea. I really appreciate the simplicity of that
I would have had a talk with someone, no way I would let that slide
I haven't seen a catering order tag in over a week. I did however get a 22 piece order with a + today. Two Thursdays back I did get a catering bag mark that was 130 milkshakes and 5 smoothies. Got a $120 tip while doordash payed me $3.25.
Think it’s a bug in the app
Some catering order only pay what it says and doesn’t go up at all and when that happens it sucks
Lol I had a portillos catering 2$ 29items. Took 15mim to do but only got $2 hahahaha never again
Don’t get fooled if the miles are close to wat u see on acceptance than it’s not going up for example 9.00$ 6miles catering bag required forget about it your looking for 12$ 4 miles or anything like that
@@3svtcobraSo to clarify, the $9 for 6miles = $1.5 a mile where as the $12 for 4mi = $3 per mile. Are you saying do the math and probably safer to only accept a catering delivery w/o a plus indicator if it's no less than average of $3 dollars a mile?
This past week, I have declined 5 Catering orders, never have I done that in a week.
What insight!
Thanks
Red Robin - catering order today - $8 delivery, $3 setup. 4.5 miles. $0 tips.
$8 is the no.tip ezcater decline and move on
Ive also noticed any catering order that pays 11.00 -11.50 doesnt have a bonus, seen a mcdonals catering order one time for 7 dollars and rejected that one lol. Most catering orders Ive seen have nice hidden tips. One time I met a 64yr old man that dashes just 1hr a night and he got a 93 dollar tip and half the load I had for that chilpolte order, I had so many chipolte catering boxes my trunk was filled and my back seat was filled and I got a 56 dollar tip. I think my order they ordered through the chipolte website and his order was directly through doordash.
I'm still a noob with just over 200 deliveries. Did you already know there was going to be no tip on this order? Also, whats the $3 set up, is that in your pocket or minus the $8? Ty in adv.
@@2tenaquaticsthe 3 dollar fee is to set up the order it shows the way they want you to set it up in picture on app. Sometimes you get with one sometimes you don’t just varies with orders
Additional add on on pay
With some catering partners and tip stealing by restaurants I think if more customers knew this was happening then maybe we could get some action, i doubt they enjoy having their money go places they never meant to send it.
How long does someone have to wait on the order to be completed before possibly getting a contract violation as I was told by DD support today for waiting too long for the catering order to be done which would put me being really late delivering the order?
I know we have a bit of time past pick up by time but when the order should have been picked up by 11:09 and I didn’t get the order till 11:12. I waited 25 + minutes with the restaurant saying every few minutes that it will be done in a few minutes. Customer calling me and the restaurant upset it was taking so long. DD support basically said I will get a contract violation for lateness that I would have to dispute or I could unassign penalty free so I took that option. I definitely don’t want to go through that again. Thankfully I got a high paying non catering order at a restaurant across the road within seconds of after I unassigned that order.
I've had large orders that pay 6 for less than a mile payout over 30. DD plays to many games
I've been in the catering program since last June. It was amazing. Then the Boston area was hit with the Tiers program in early December. December was normal since a ton were under the 70% acceptance rate. Once January hit the switch was flipped and most of not all of the catering orders disappeared. It's been well over a month since I've seen a decent one. Way too many are in the program now . I don't even see the bad ones going from Burlington to Boston. The + orders seem to be disappearing as well like you said. A few of the regular catering customers in my area had massive layoffs so I get that shinks the pool but this program is nowhere close to what it was 2 months ago.
Same here in Nebraska. U haven't seen a catering order in months. I see the same size orders, but no tip.
I dash here in Charlotte as well. I've taken orders like that twice. They worked out cool. However, it was a cash order. But I had to ask for it.
Its been well over a month since I’ve received a large paying catering job on the platform. I used to count on at least 1-2 of these per day to make ends meet now theyre gone!? Thats like taking a 20-40% pay cut!!! What the hell!!!
I recently had a catering order that was like a few bucks. It was across town and the wait wasn’t long luckily but the restaurant mentioned something about the tip and to bring the receipt back if it came to that. I delivered and there was no tip upon completion. I texted customer if they wanted to leave a tip after the order if they ordered on the app but they didn’t respond. I was upset but this wasn’t the first time it’s happened. Years ago, there was a restaurant that kept taking my tips bc some customers tipped afterwards and I had to bring the receipt back and the restaurant would say “we will get it to you somehow…”
It was horrible and inconsistent.
I got a cater order yesterday 5.50+.... I bet it was another .50. Ether way, no one was touching it because it came back to me 15 minutes later after dropping off an order.
Shameful
UPDATE: orders marked as catering orders completely stopped at the beginning of March. I haven't received one since and I know it's not cause my stats went to low cause they never did
I've found that in my area, if the offer pays less than $1 per mile, that's all you're going to get, no matter the number of items or how expensive the restaurant. I noticed the lack of a olus sign on catering offers this week. I thought it was just me, so thanks for validating that. I've also noticed that the better the dollar to mile ratio, the more you will receive upon delivery of the order. $6.00 for 0.7 miles is almost 10 times the $1 to 1 mile ratio. That would net approximately $55 to $60 by my calculations. One night this week I had 3 catering offers and all of them paid face value, but all were within $1.50 or less per mile. I received no extra pay for any of the 3 offers. But the one offering $15 for 7.3 miles paid out $27. on Sunday night. Almost $2 a mile, and the payout was almost 2 times the initial offer. I'll be testing my method this week.
Also - if the miles are higher than the pay, that is all you are going to get.
The best catering orders usually show just over 2 dollars per mile with a plus, like 12 + for 5 miles
I remember doing their catering program when it first came out. It’s not like it used to be to be honest. Most of these orders now are given to the top dasher but before catering jobs came out the night before
Doordash has made horrible changes. I've been dashing for 5 years, this year I was averaging about $160 a day but they changed to the tier system and now I make about $20 a day which cannot sustain me so I have to quit dashing. I was a good Dasher, I dashed with integrity and I wanted the customer to have a good experience. Lately I'm reading a lot of comments about dashers intentionally messing with people's food on no tip orders. It seems to be going on quite a bit and I think that's what's going to kill doordash in the end. Doordash cannot expect dashers to continue to deliver their food for little or no pay it's just not going to work. It has gotten so slow in my area and I'm in a major city. I get like 1 dash an hour. I have a 100 percent completion rate and an AR of 85 percent. I can't live off of $20 a day. I'm telling you doordash is going to go the way of the dinosaur.
Ok , this was value cause that program is a game changer. I love the weekends
I feel I am getting all the orders that everybody rejects. I have been forced to get even $1 a mile orders. Even with 90% acceptance. No more asking to take picture of the catering bag. Also I’m not getting orders from the usual restaurants that have better clients. When is very busy I get a cvs or Walgreens order. While restaurants are lit up in the app. I’m at a loss and getting very worried.
Exactly what am experiencing. It's really bad to struggle to keep these stats and yet nothing good to show for it. What is really going on?
Same Is happened to me
I totally agree. I got in the catering program last November. I used to get excited when a catering order I was like oh yeah let’s get this money. Lately tho(last two weeks) I’ve gotten more catering orders than usual but the payouts have been way less profitable. I’ve gone from $40 on avg per order to like $15-20. Needless to say the excitement has diminished. I get more higher paying regular orders now
Because DoorDash is showing a way less pay average for customers when they order
They are showing way less suggested tips for large orders now
Same with me. Have been in catering program for 3 years every day getting three or more but no more from at least a month. Just confused here😢
Also, I don’t think this will hurt the company at all. Yeah it might cause delays in orders but that customer won’t look into it and realize that their tip is being hidden from the dasher. And being that a lot of them are actual catering orders, they’re probably willing to wait longer
Last but not least, Americans (can’t speak for the world) don’t know how to vote with their money. These are the same type of people who STILL buy the new NBA2K game after complaining about how it’s been the same for the past 5 years.
Seems no matter what, cherry pickers with low AR and Top dashers will make pretty much the same unless theres no orders or to many dashers. Things are fine the way they are in my opinion, because if it paid more, then more want to do it hence the over saturation and deactivations. In hind sight if everyone was top tier or top dasher there would be no ''rewards'' . You are not going to have 10,000 catering orders in a metro area in one night. Seems the cherry pickers are like wolves waitng patiently and dont have the hourly w2 mind set, its just wait for that money, and you got the top dashers that arent patient and want the money now, so take everything. In the end, I think both types are vital to keep the platform running for the longivity stand point. To calculate all the 5-8pm part timers and those 12hr a day cherry pickers. Id think the only difference between the 2 are the mileage they accumlate in the end.
I agree. I also find my 2022 Camry gets really great fuel mileage when my tank has just been filled. It stays on that F indicator forever. But as soon as I get close to using up a 1/4 of the tank my fuel gage starts to drop much faster. So I just fill up right after using up a quarter tank before the meter starts dropping. Usually about 15 bucks to get back to the Full. But I stay on full for a lot more miles allowing me to do that cherry picking and moving around. Im not worried about miles because its new with only 16.5k on it. I am more worried about wear and tear so I am not racing around, and avoid pot holes and speed bumps where I can.
Do you have a video on how you do orders in DT Charlotte? It feels like it’s impossible to dash over there because of the parking.
Love your posts! Thank your u for sharing.
You will only see + symbols if you have a high AR. I still get catering orders when I have a low AR and they always hide the tip.
In my experience I’ve noticed if the catering order is not 2-1 (Money/miles) it displays full payout.
If it shows $8.00 even it’s probably base pay and the merchant withheld the tip.
Experienced dashers know what to look for.
I’m never taking a large order under $6.00 .
Yep, 99% of the time if it's showing under 2 dollars per mile, it will not go up
On that Pizza order you waited an hour for the acceptance screenshot showed $6 but on the payout screenshot on the bottom it said "payout was more than the $7 shown at acceptance". Why? There was $1 peak pay also which means at the acceptance, assuming you know the hidden tip indicator is $4 and you were aware of the peak pay, you wouldn't take that order regardless of the catering program indicator because you'd know it's not going higher than $6 right? What's going on here? Why is there a discrepancy? You weren't shown $7 at acceptance. You were shown $6. ??? Even if that peak pay started at 11:30am it doesn't make sense for DD to retroactively add it to an order you accepted at 11:11am. ???
I got into the catering program mostly because restaurants would put me as the favorite driver in the app.
Door dash should just be honest and say the total
Upfront. We shouldn’t t be wondering what will it be.
Sometimes a + is just $.50. So it’s always a risk to take them to start and then what if a catering order didn’t tip.
Yeah it seems most orders are catering im focused on shop and delivery i get priority. I do alot of alcohol and shop and delivery orders , even got a certificate for liquor delivery through door dash l. Orders big pay out big order or multiple orders so i invested in a bike trail Carla cargo trailer and a west marine “fold it” trailer
I'm in a diamond zone and my AR is single digits so i never see a plus sign on orders. I've been in the LOP for a few years now. The indicator is either a $6 or $12 with that catering bag tag. Only a handful of times has it not gone up.
As soon as your zone goes to tiers only 70% and above for LOP
@deliveringwithapurpose I know. I'm not going to worry about it until then. And even when it hits I believe I will still get LOP orders. It's been a mixed review. Lots of dashers are saying they stopped getting them completely and lots of other dashers say they still get them and nothing has changed. Only time will tell.
Are there any dashers who typically make more than minimum wage after fuel costs are deducted? So far doordashing seems like a minimum wage job that puts a lot of mileage on your car.
There another cue besides that sign lol I’m not even in the diamond program still and I’m in the lop if the miles are close to wat the pay shows upon acceptance that is wat your getting or its not going up by more than 3 dollars than wat u saw
how do you start getting catering orders?
I wonder what’s going on with the wait times on these catering orders. I had 2 catering orders from chick fila as well and I also had to wait an hour both times. I know before they would’ve been ready as soon as I got there. Or maybe it’s just a one-off situation?
what do I do if I was going out to Door dash and my clutch went I drive a 6 speed manuel turbo i lost control on the highway shifting into 5th went off the road and hit trees I did extensive damage. How do I not lose my job? posted on the 8 things to know from 4 years ago wasnt sure if you checked those messages still.
Just know anyone on LOP don’t expect to have it forever. I had it for a year and one day last October they just threw me off. No email, no heads up, and just like that my earnings were cut in half. Called support three times all they say is you’re still on it and I’m clearly not. Typical DD bs
I’m not in the catering program but last Saturday I got a catering bag order for 12 miles, I took it because it said catering bag and usually they pay out more, but I was paid maybe 2/3less then the type of order I would take for time and miles
The good ones will show over 2 dollars per mile
Bentley have a question.
Little bit of my introduction.
I have been doing doordash for 4 years now 15000 plus deliveries. I have been in the catering program for 3 years, used to get three or more catering orders every single day. I saw your video. As you mentioned things have changed.
As you mentioned, catering order doesn't come with a plus sign now. But the strange thing is I haven't got any of them since 1 month!!
I also receive emails from doordash that I have been prioritized for shop and deliver many times but I still was a top priority dasher of my area. These days most of the time I get Walmart pickups and shopping orders. Hardly even any food orders
Do you think should I opt out of shop and pay has mentioned in their email? If it helps any, just wondering why I doesn't get catering orders. I even contacted support two or three times. They say I'm already have the best priority for catering orders but still I don't see any. So confused😢
Do you only get catering orders if you're in the lop? I got one yesterday. So I guess I'm lop? I rarely get catering orders
I have not gotten a + order worth doing in weeks. Always is under a dollar added. What’s going on?
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I use to call DoorDash and ask what the half pay was to know if it was worth taking now you can’t do that lol
You can just call and ask what the total payout is. If they won't tell you call back and talk to someone else.
Same as it ever was
I had over 30 catering orders come over my phone in 1 day and not one of them had a tip. I did take thr chance on a couple of those orders and I got what it first showed. Plus I was at BJs restaurant the other day on a catering order and they held the food for over a hour. And how I know is the pizza box was cold and wrinkly
If its less than 2 dollars per mile, most likely it won't go up
Yet another indicator that they never should've taken away pre- scheduled catering orders...smh......
Good video! very informative so tired of these drive along video I pick up food I deliver food all day I don't want to ride with someone else lol
I’ll be taking all catering orders now. Thank you!
How's that going?
Been a dasher since 2019..have over 10k deliveries ..top dasher status..even bought a catering bag from doordash..still can’t get into the large order program..makes no sense to me
Bug them every day, that's how I got in
I have over 4500 deliveries and I have not seen any catering offers. And all my stats meet the criteria. B S program
me personally i’m a dasher i love doing it /money is money specially today’s economy in the crapper /u shouldn’t be greedy so id definitely take that order go deliver -drop off /setup and go get more orders sorry but i wouldn’t be complaint over money that’s shows how shallow/ greedy you are of only always wanting the highest payout which is mega nice to have to but all the time like cmon/ if i’m waiting for food i always talk to the customer through text or call to tell them what’s going on -they love that so they tell whomever what’s going on don’t worry it’s coming etc
No plus sign .....is a take at face value ...not going up. Still seeing plus signs in my area, I've been burned 3 or 4 times in catering orders without the plus
That's not true with catering orders. I'm in a diamond zone and stay under 5% AR so I've never seen the plus sign. As long as the order shows $6 or $12 That's the indicator it may go up. Almost always does
@@kellydrake9956 ok well maybe that's the difference...I'm always above 70%...top Dasher zone..and in the LOP program
@@kellydrake9956absolutely 💯
So DoorDash enables restaurants to steal tips from dashers. That's fucking gross. Why the fuck should I keep dashing if they are just stealing from me?
How do we unionize? You're a larger figure. Can you lead the charge?
sad, right? what's the point in doing this if the merchants keep the tips. I figured this was going on for a while now.
Please I need an answer
Has anymore here been experiencing no large order coming thru anymore. They now come as normal orders with no catering bag required and anyone can get it? It's been about 4 weeks and I still. Have not gotten any catering order. Please can you address this? I dash in MD Annapolis
I honestly think it’s because they just allowed so many dashers on and they give them all 2 weeks of top dasher . I think they removed it and will add it back in a few weeks ..
@denisemarley6944 wait you mean every dasher out there is a top dasher now?
It's been messed up since the 7th, that's when they switched a bunch of markets to the new tier program. Thousands of people stopped getting large orders since then.
Also, how is annapolis? I've been wanting to come down there and try out the zone? I'm in Glen Burnie
Same here I'm here from Canada in the catering program for 3 years. Used to get three or more every single day but not anymore since 1 month. So confused😢@@sharky2675
Never take EZcatering. They keep the tips. They go through DD
In my market; any cater order with $10 or above as a starting offer has a hidden tip.
Not in my market, anything 11 and under there is no hidden surprise tip.
@@danguts2844
Know your market, yes!
Correct me if I am wrong but legally they have to show the total payout of the order not an indicator it may be higher.. They are contractually supposed to show us the base pay plus the full amount of the tips that the customer can increase after the fact.. but they aren't supposed to hide any part of the tips at all.. So that indicator is technically illegal operations right? Not only that but they aren't supposed to be allowed to prioritize drivers over others based off their AR, They have punishing drivers by not giving them access to the higher paying orders like that because of the AR. From my research the AR is the only thing they legally can't punish you for but yet they find ways of doing that. Forcing us to take orders we don't wan't to take and send out 90% orders that are only base pay with high millage. Honestly doordash is screwing us and making up new shit every day not to pay us the way they are supposed to.. I am seriously looking into attorneys to try to get this shit changed because the way they treat the dashers is absurd I know we are not employees but we still have rights for fair pay and treatment as contractors. Transparency in our pay is supposed to be 100% not a guessing game.
Haven't seen a catering order in over a week. Anyone else having this issue at the moment?
It's been 5 weeks for me not seen 1 ever since February
@harrietamankwa9657 yeah it seems like more has changed than what is being mentioned in this video.
Most people have not seen one since the 7th, that's when DD messed everything up when they switched a bunch of markets to the new tier program.
Same here
I finally had one yesterday. I've seen this new tier program. I'm visiting family in a market with the tier program. I'm gonna log in to see if I see a difference
At 47% AR you won’t see the + symbol on any order lol
Yea, I just do not understand at all the practice of hiding, masking and manipulating the payout total. It just doesn't make sense at all. Why not just be transparent and show the full amount. Also tired of them giving less doordash pay for very far miles, just because the customer tip is good. I never take chances on any order, unless the order looks right when I 1st see it, and I never over commit to any order that would take too long unless it's paying 30+, because I'm multi apping and need to be available to take the best order available at the time or multiple orders simultaneously, sometimes I'm delivering 3,4,5 even 6 orders at one time and still manage to get them all reasonably on time.
I think this change just shows us more of the direction door dash is going into. Making dashers homogenized and randomized. If the new brainwashed people get used to taking all orders to keep the numbers up, then all the drivers with high numbers have a more equal chance of getting the catering. I know top dashers that only dash by time who make $25 an order regularly but since they are on time, they are letting those orders sit in the car while dropping off all the other apps first and dropping the door dash order on the final minute ( sometimes an hour). Unlike me, I'm trying to do at least 3 an hour whether I'm by time or by order.
Took a 12.50 order 17 items .. its going 1 mi.. no hidden tip.. im sure store stole tip
Not foolproof but, I have found. If the offer is below $2 per mile, that's all your getting.
If that was the same order why does it show originally $6 to higher than $7 original offer showing on bottom of the final payout?… strange…
WHY DOES DOOR DASH PLAYING GAMES WITH ORDERS
Hey Bro
Are you a top dasher ?
no sir
Most of the doom Im hearing on this vlog, I think may relate to the protest possibly hurting the organization making some customers look elsewhere to order or to get the food themselves. Since valentines day I was doing well and now its been a tug of war with orders with DD. Those that deliver and use the app to have things delivered to there home may have noticed lots of promos in there emails about discounts on using the doordash delivery services. This tells me they are fighting to keep the stocks up to please the investors lol. Also seeing ton of new dashers taking 2 dollar orders. But this video seems as if it was created to motivate thousands of dashers to be the ''top dasher'' to get to that Large Order Program lol. I predict the CEO will make 500 million this yr if not more!!!!
You guys are gullible. Nothing has changed. The only reason it didn't show the plus sign is because the acceptance rate was under 50%. Diamonds and plus sign only appear above 50% like it's always been. Just talking nonsense for views. Unbelievable people.
Oh yaaaaaay more BS from DD and Bentley always finds a way to justify it.
L🤡
Let me guess, you’re mad your lazy ass strategy of trying to do as little as you can and get paid for it doesn’t work so now the cry baby is throwing a tantrum 😢🤣😿…hold on where’s my violin
@@DoordashDiaries See and replies like this prove how unprofessional and soy you actually are.
People literally know how DD works and they know how screwed they get by them.
You are literally the only person holding DD’s sack in your mouth.
You’re a walking L.
Cry some more.
And I have a real job making way more than you can count.
I consistently make $150+ daily
@@DoordashDiaries bro this reminded me of the track Ill Mind of Hopsin 5 when he was like your lazy ass dont commit to labor you pick something up try it out and put it down 2 minutes later and then you complain about your life cause it aint getting catered and now whoever calls you out on your bullshits a hater