The Low Tech Way Resident Evil Tricked You

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  • @Johnnywilsonforever
    @Johnnywilsonforever 5 місяців тому +424

    I've always said one thing that made Resident Evil scary was you didn't know what you were gonna find at the other side of the corner. The angles are a key element to help in the horror aspect of the games.

    • @GugureSux
      @GugureSux 5 місяців тому +32

      This. Also a skilled dev could use the camera like a real movie director, guiding players nonverbally towards points of interest.

    • @White927
      @White927 5 місяців тому +16

      RE 4 ruined it.

    • @White927
      @White927 5 місяців тому +16

      RE 4 was the downfall.

    • @waled7564
      @waled7564 5 місяців тому +2

      Resident evil 1 - 3 are hilarious they aged poorly

    • @secondhandevil
      @secondhandevil 5 місяців тому +7

      I enjoyed the old school RE games, but thy relied too much on their own self-imposed limitations to make the games artificially difficult. Basic movement was clunky and frustrating, exploration was slow and disorienting, aiming was hilariously bad, and combat would always occur on the line between two cameras making it impossible to see the enemy.
      These weren't features. They were flaws. Serious, unaddressed, flaws.

  • @Ricsard001
    @Ricsard001 5 місяців тому +49

    The fixed camera angle make a feeling like the player watch a security camera record, just during can able to control the protagonist. It completely created an experience as if we were part of an archive recording. Brilliant.
    This solution is perfect for a detective-horror game, because the rendered fixed background show the players a lots of clues and background information, and a good envirovment for mondter encounters.
    And a photorealistic gamplay background is a very beautyful thing.

  • @marcuscarana9240
    @marcuscarana9240 5 місяців тому +27

    The fact that so many moderm horror games like Chillas art and Puppet Combo are purposefully recreating the retro ps1 esque kind of graphics, shows that the technological limitations created a style that to this day is loved and never forgotten. Same with 8 bits. We now have graphics cards and pcs capable of virtual reality and yet 8 bit style games still sell and are thriving. Technological limitations gave birth to a style and genre that never dies.

    • @jeffreymontoya9933
      @jeffreymontoya9933 4 місяці тому

      This is true of many art forms. Limitations breed inspiration and ingenuity. 👍

  • @Gosti85
    @Gosti85 5 місяців тому +212

    I think a small part you didn´t reconsider for the Tank controls is that back then, those games were designed to be played with a D-Pad, not a Stick. When the first RE came out, the typical PS Dual Stick Controller wasn´t even out, you just had your base controller without them, and even with later games, I´m not even sure if RE3 supported the sticks. But nowadays, trying to play tank controls with a stick just feels strange

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому +34

      That’s actually one of the things I go over in the Extended Cut haha

    • @TheRealSephiroth
      @TheRealSephiroth 5 місяців тому +16

      Re3 did support the sticks it was 1 and 2 that didnt at first. They both got duel shock editions later after their initial releases re1 got its duel shock in late 1997 and 2 got it in later of 1998. Re3 came out in 1999 when most games started to shift to analog stick controls by that point.
      A little off topic but Final Fantasy 7 started off with just use of the D-pad but there is a gameshark cheat that allows use of the analog stick on the original ps1. 8 and 9 used both the pad and sticks.

    • @GugureSux
      @GugureSux 5 місяців тому +15

      @@TheRealSephiroth Correct, but literally nobody played any of those games, or the future titles in the same genre, with the analog sticks.
      To this day, the first two protips I give to anyone planning to play a late-90s / early-00s horror games for the first time are:
      1. Google and read up the MANUALS, and
      2. Use the D-pad. Sadly, Xbox controller has terrible D-pad, which is why I use and recommend Playstation controllers.

    • @josesanchezrodriguez1783
      @josesanchezrodriguez1783 5 місяців тому +12

      Playing those games with a Playstation D-Pad feels great.

    • @TheRealSephiroth
      @TheRealSephiroth 5 місяців тому

      @@GugureSux thats not entirely true. I never play with the Dpad unless thats the only option. I always used the sticks. I couldnt stand the pads 🤣

  • @Cargo_Bay
    @Cargo_Bay 5 місяців тому +120

    Yeah, "pre-rendered" was code back then for "static background", hah. But it worked. By golly, the fixed angle thing worked.

    • @Quenlin
      @Quenlin 5 місяців тому +12

      It's called "pre-rendered" because it wasn't made from a sprite sheet.

    • @ramrodbldm9876
      @ramrodbldm9876 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@RianQuenlin yea these ppl aren't to smart

    • @paulbunyangonewild7596
      @paulbunyangonewild7596 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Quenlin well technically it was "code" for these kinds of "above their means" graphics by rendering them before hand on a graphics workstation.
      They didn't HAVE to be static, I mean heck, these games HAVE video playback.
      But I don't think they could run all the game code while ALSO playing the game on top, and considering the loading speed, alot of effects could be done bit-wise or by messing with the whole screen.
      Lightening? Just brighten and darken the background image.
      Dumpster fire? Essentially a small gif. Same for alot of other smaller effects. And let's not forget the ps1 is really a 3d game system, so nothings stopping you from doing regular modeling tricks like uv scrolling.

    • @todesziege
      @todesziege 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Quenlin No? Pre-rendered 3D graphics were used to make sprite sheets too, like in Donkey Kong Country (and a hundred other games of the era).

    • @jimbotron70
      @jimbotron70 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@todesziege When the hardware wasn't fast and powerful enough to render 2D scenes in real time it was indeed pre-rendered.

  • @verygoodfreelancer
    @verygoodfreelancer 5 місяців тому +124

    choosing one specific angle allowed the artists who worked on the game to create truly memorable scenes and customize and direct every little bit of it. in MANY ways it leads to more sophisticated and customized art direction than larger games now.

    • @jonoghue
      @jonoghue 5 місяців тому +15

      This sort of thing is exactly why I'm pretty tired of open world games. There's something about a curated experience that you can't get when the devs instead focus on "you choose how to proceed." It's why I like the first couple Metal Gear Solid games more than MGS V.

    • @monsterrun
      @monsterrun 4 місяці тому +2

      art direction over graphics complexity.

    • @inplane9970
      @inplane9970 3 місяці тому

      It's like comparing listening to a song and reading its lyrics. Two very different experiences, with listening being more enticing because you can hear the vision and direction behind the artists'. The lyrics themselves can be amazing, but the lack of direction could make it lackluster.

  • @sparda9060
    @sparda9060 5 місяців тому +32

    Games back then had very short draw distance due to lack of VRAM and system RAM in order for the game console to render more stuff on the screen. Developers had to start thinking outside of the box to work around those constraints like Crash Bandicoot developer who used the C library as extra RAM to store more textures so he would have a fully 3D polygon rendered character with large amount of detail while also being able to still render the map for the level design.

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому +10

      Did you get that from watching the Ars War Stories interview he did? That video was INSANE. Dude is a programming god.

    • @SammEater
      @SammEater 4 місяці тому

      Also, since you are using Crash as an example, the level designs in those games are even made with this limitation in mind, in both 3D and 2D sections.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 4 місяці тому

      @@SammEater Yeah that's why widescreen patches work so bad in Crash as the game just outright doesn't draw most elements of levels outside the normal screen. Spider-Man games and Silent Hill used fog to hide buildings popping out in the distance as PS1 was NOT made to render entire CITIES.

    • @SammEater
      @SammEater 4 місяці тому

      @@KasumiRINA Yeah, this is one of the reasons why I never use widescreen mods for games that were not designed for it.

  • @LordMagden
    @LordMagden 5 місяців тому +763

    Just because a play style was invented because of a technological limitation of the time doesn’t mean it isn’t still fun. We didn’t give up dice completely for bits

    • @redomagnus4762
      @redomagnus4762 5 місяців тому +45

      Is this you saying that fixed camera is cool or isn’t cool?
      I have been playing some classic RE games this year, and going back to fixed camera angles has been AMAZING. So fun to play through, and the angles are a large part of the magic

    • @Wolfstanus
      @Wolfstanus 5 місяців тому +44

      @@redomagnus4762 Fixed camera angles and tank controls are still good for games built around the idea of it. Also the youtuber for this video forgets another very important aspect. Art style/art direction for modern indie games. Because pre rendered background/sprites do not look the same as a fully rendered environment.

    • @elderleon1844
      @elderleon1844 5 місяців тому +4

      if it was fun t begin with yes, but this mecanic was suposed to be confusing and ''scary'' in the first time, and is not like this this days so no it's not funny because it was never suposed to, and not scary anymore because we all learn how to deal with it, is just, clunky

    • @lukefortune8314
      @lukefortune8314 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Wolfstanus did you skip through the video? because he does bring that up.

    • @Don_Shake
      @Don_Shake 5 місяців тому +27

      ​@elderjose9662 I disagree with this take. It's not "clunky", as these games are built around these controls and are essential to the game design. It is fundamentally fun if these games actually appeal to you at all. These games don't just exist to scare you, they are video games first and foremost and everything about the controls and camera work to make these games what they are. I wouldn't be able to have fun replaying RE1R dozens of times if the only appeal is the initial "confusion" and fear.
      Modern controls and camera do not automatically make a game a better or more well crafted experience Just look at RE3 vs it's remake.

  • @OblivionFalls
    @OblivionFalls 5 місяців тому +49

    I had a pretty good idea for how this stuff works already, but seeing you do it in real-time really makes me feel inspired to try it myself. It was also pretty crazy hearing the File City theme near the end there... That brings me back, holy fuck.

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому +5

      I only played Digimon World BRIEFLY at a friend's house waaaay back but parts of it lodged themselves in my brain permanently haha
      Also deff give game dev a shot if you're interested! Tons of tools exist now that make the process so much more approachable 👍

    • @R3TR0J4N
      @R3TR0J4N 4 місяці тому

      Reminds me of RTS and side scrollers

  • @garethjohnstone9282
    @garethjohnstone9282 5 місяців тому +12

    I loved everything about RE2. I feel the static camera angles added to its atmosphere.

  • @GameTalesHQ
    @GameTalesHQ 5 місяців тому +14

    Love the way you put this one togheter! Pre-rendered backgrounds hold up so well

  • @luismarques8905
    @luismarques8905 5 місяців тому +9

    I love fixed camera angles and i really appreciate the art of the pre-rendered graphics.

  • @Jomster777
    @Jomster777 5 місяців тому +168

    I miss fixed camera angles. They could tell a story and create a sense of suspense quite effortlessly

    • @ashwin4224
      @ashwin4224 5 місяців тому +6

      absolutely

    • @christiangottsacker6932
      @christiangottsacker6932 5 місяців тому +6

      Dude even metal gear did this well till guns of the patriots

    • @metalslayergameplays6089
      @metalslayergameplays6089 5 місяців тому +1

      Many indie games now using it.

    • @Broockle
      @Broockle 5 місяців тому +5

      What about only using fixed camera angles for intense moments?
      Could make for some interesting moments.

    • @christiangottsacker6932
      @christiangottsacker6932 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Broockle a lot of new adventure/horror titles do that and do it well

  • @JaxBlade
    @JaxBlade 5 місяців тому +45

    The King has returned haha also incredible video loved all the angles 😂

  • @VincentDuDouze
    @VincentDuDouze 5 місяців тому +7

    "Resident Evil" (Biohazard in Japan 1993) is a copy of "alone in the dark" (1992) in many ways !

    • @perholmstrom9789
      @perholmstrom9789 5 місяців тому +2

      I do not believe I had to scroll this far down to find a comment about Alone in the dark. Yes, there are ALOT of similarities, events ("zombie chicken" jumping throught the window later mirrored by the zombie dog in Resident Evil) , camera angles etc.
      I really like this video, so I found it annoying that Alone in the dark wasn't mentioned since it also had prerendered backgrounds.

    • @sudafedup
      @sudafedup 4 місяці тому

      Resident Evil was '96.

  • @Homunculus97
    @Homunculus97 5 місяців тому +8

    Great video and overall a damn solid way to illustrate how fixed camera angles work in game dev perspective, also you get an extra plus for using the Digimon World OST. Subscribed.

    • @jaywebster7508
      @jaywebster7508 5 місяців тому

      Yess someone else heared it haha

  • @EliahNebb
    @EliahNebb 5 місяців тому +8

    i like the filming and editing to underscore the point. very nice combination of analysis and application!

  • @jangleleg117
    @jangleleg117 4 місяці тому +1

    Whenever I come across a new channel, sometimes I'm too quick to judge but I was pleasantly surprised. I was like "wtf is this ner- ...oh, I see what you did there". The way your yard looked so static while you walked across it, it looked just like a fixed camera game. Nice work on the video. For me, fixed cameras are solely in place for extra fear factor/suspense while approaching corners and exploring the game. Even after Resident Evil 4 and 5 came out, remakes of the first 3, ports to the Nintendo DS even, were still bangers for the old feel. And by old feel, I don't mean nostalgia, but the fixed camera changes the feel of the whole game. You got yourself another subscriber.

  • @jettesides420
    @jettesides420 5 місяців тому +3

    There is another vid on youtube about pre rendered backrounds. But you actually showed how its done, great video! It really is interactive art when everything comes together.

  • @rolandomamuri4809
    @rolandomamuri4809 4 місяці тому +3

    Not knowing what's lurking in the next frame is the best in giving you jump scares

  • @2l84me8
    @2l84me8 4 місяці тому +3

    The concept of fixed camera angels and pre-rendered backgrounds was ingenious.
    I truly miss this era of gaming.

  • @hawkbirdtree3660
    @hawkbirdtree3660 5 місяців тому +3

    Combining a how to video, with a retrospective is very clever. It shows others you know what you are talking about, and trials and tribulations along the way. Great work.

  • @williansnobre
    @williansnobre 5 місяців тому +3

    Silent Hill 1 and Dino Crisis 1 did it in a middle of the road kind of approach, by having the player able to partially control the camera outside of cutscenes but having the camera either on rails or struggling against the player. It kinda helped with the spooky atmosphere and those games were fully rendered 3D, they just used the same tank controls because the camera snapping and framing shots was really cool and effective.

  • @cyberangel82
    @cyberangel82 3 місяці тому

    I really appreciated you making the actual demo scenes and explaining how it works.

  • @ManicBestia
    @ManicBestia 5 місяців тому +7

    Absolutely loved this, great work and really well researched too, can't wait to see more stuff like this from you, Tom!

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it 👍

  • @natephoenix
    @natephoenix 4 місяці тому

    Great video, learned a lot from it as someone who knows nothing about game dev or unity. I have all of the RE2 (and RE1.5) pre-rendered backgrounds saved myself, and they're such a joy to look through. Whoever the artists were that painted them really put a lot of thought into them, as (for example) you can you see buildings you ran past on the streets from certain angles in the RPD exterior. It's an underappreciated art and needs more recognition.

  • @SmogHobbit
    @SmogHobbit 5 місяців тому +3

    Dude I just had to subscribe after this video popped up on my feed. Please keep making this high quality content. ❤

  • @oyentemaniatico
    @oyentemaniatico 4 місяці тому +2

    this was great man, do more

  • @SaberVS7
    @SaberVS7 5 місяців тому +44

    Regarding hiding and rendering layers - The "layered" look can actually be achieved with a single-layer image from a single render, by mapping a depth-mask that's 1:1 with the game engine's distance units and rendering individual pixels in front of or behind 3D elements based on their in-engine distance from the camera.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 5 місяців тому +1

      the depth mask counts as a layer

    • @philcoast1031
      @philcoast1031 5 місяців тому +1

      That's a cool idea, but I wonder how well it would work with transparency (like glass windows, and bloom like the candles at 13:25), and antialiasing.

    • @NuttachaiTipprasert
      @NuttachaiTipprasert 5 місяців тому +4

      PS1 doesn't have a Z-Buffer so if you want to perfectly emulate the old PS1 games, layering is the only way to do it.

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 місяці тому

      I did wonder how Sierra Online "Space Quest II" worked. I figured that they have some z-buffer implemented in software.

    • @jackbauer9901
      @jackbauer9901 4 місяці тому

      @@philcoast1031 Good point. I would probably implement it like this: Fill the color buffer with the prerendered background. Fill the Z buffer with the depth information of the prerendered background. Render the player model on top with depth testing disabled but depth writing enabled. This way the Z buffer gets updated in those regions where the player model is rendered. Finally render the prerendered background image on top of that again but update only those pixels where the Z value of the background is closer to the camera. This approach should give correct transparency as well.

  • @mielthesquid6536
    @mielthesquid6536 5 місяців тому +1

    I always loved tank controls and static camera angles. That's why the first 3 RE games are among my favorite games ever. They aged like wine.

  • @panegyr
    @panegyr 5 місяців тому +75

    Ocarina of Time also famously used this technique for its fixed camera angle interiors, most notably Castle Town

    • @kylespevak6781
      @kylespevak6781 5 місяців тому +6

      Also, lots of N64 games use 2D images that are forced to show towards the camera and adjust in real time. Obviously Mario Kart is a shining example, but also stuff like coins in Mario 64

    • @contactalig
      @contactalig 5 місяців тому

      @@kylespevak6781the technical term is ‘billboarding’ if anyone is interested.

    • @Great.Milenko
      @Great.Milenko 4 місяці тому +1

      Final fantasy 7 famously merged full motion video and fixed backgrounds to transition from one to the other 'seamlessly'

    • @kylespevak6781
      @kylespevak6781 4 місяці тому

      @@Stinkyremy Facts, but I meant for stuff that's very visible to the player. I believe most games up until the HD generation used that

  • @ninjapirate47
    @ninjapirate47 4 місяці тому +1

    Right,mate. You're getting a sub for 2 reasons and 2 reasons alone. This is my first video of yours and I'm only a minute and half in.
    1. You're using the cell music from RE1 which always gets overlooked in favour of the save room (also amazing). Golden.
    2. You showed that tech demo that came with the PS1 with the manta ray and the dinosaur. I remember Christmas morning and being blown away by that.
    Subbed. Well played.

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  4 місяці тому

      Glad to have you. Enjoy the rest of the video!

  • @basedprime6979
    @basedprime6979 5 місяців тому +6

    Happy to see youre doing videos again!!!

  • @ianmatthewkline8279
    @ianmatthewkline8279 4 місяці тому +1

    Your insight into the camera angles and cinematography is spot on. Totally agree

  • @iFukuyama
    @iFukuyama 5 місяців тому +9

    On the comments at the end about modern pre-rendered backgrounds: It's still a very common or even universal technique for sky boxes and far away objects. Up until recently everyone used Clarisse for this. Not that recent any more but the example that impressed me the most is from Resi 6, there's a scene fairly early on where you're moving down a day time street and there are enemies and explosions and things happening in front of you at the end of the street -- Only it's a video. It completely seamlessly transitions into 3D geometry when you move closer. To hide the load and better integrate effects, if I had to guess. You're walking in a straight line towards it, there's nowhere to hide a cut.

  • @drgonzo123
    @drgonzo123 Місяць тому

    Found your channel and subbed after finding your Soul Reaver short. I like what you’re doing here, it’s not something I’ve seen any channels do, so you’ve got a great hook. I look forward to watching your channel grow.

  • @blushslice
    @blushslice 5 місяців тому +3

    I still think code veronica and the outbreak series are the perfect blend of fully rendered environments w fixed or panning camera angles, it’s perfect

    • @magnifician21
      @magnifician21 5 місяців тому

      All they need to do is just improving the graphics to make it look real, without changing anything else

  • @leostarings2535
    @leostarings2535 4 місяці тому +1

    This video made me appreciate " syphon filter " series and how fluid the 3D actions were despite the limitations of the PS1

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  4 місяці тому

      Was literally just talking with my friend how the taser in Syphon Filter is the best weapon in games lol

  • @Reds-Retros
    @Reds-Retros 5 місяців тому +5

    What a really well presented and informative video, you got a sub from me.
    PS: I miss talk controls.
    To those confused about that statement: Yes, we exist, and we enjoy and miss not every single game feeling exactly the same. Variety, experimentation and risk is something I miss dearly from the AAA games of the 90s and 00s.

    • @GugureSux
      @GugureSux 5 місяців тому +3

      Seconded. It's a very weird, post-2010s zoomer narrative that the control and camera scheme of classic survival horror would've ever been a problem.
      OG PS1 Resident Evils alone sold dozens of millions of copies, back when 250k was enough for the game to get the "Platinum" / "Greatest Hits" release.

  • @korawichbikedashcam6293
    @korawichbikedashcam6293 5 місяців тому +1

    5:54 As a DMC fan, I like that you highlighted this issue. Going into the hallway one way can suddenly become another.

  • @PhantomHarlock78
    @PhantomHarlock78 4 місяці тому +2

    You can make a video about Alone in the Dark flashlight effect in the PS1 version. Was very impressive for the time.

  • @Simp4Gwyn
    @Simp4Gwyn 4 місяці тому

    I subscribed literally as soon as i finished the video, what an amazing topic and way of talking. Cant wait for more!

  • @ryanarchuleta6231
    @ryanarchuleta6231 5 місяців тому +4

    I still think fixed camera is the way to go. A horror game just isn't as scary when you can play it like a shooter.

  • @DaSlotho
    @DaSlotho 4 місяці тому +1

    5:00 that was beautiful how u acted that on ya back porch even slowing down to slowey walk up the steps

  • @Gosti85
    @Gosti85 5 місяців тому +5

    Well, that was a strange experience. Just showed up in my recommendations, thought why not, saw your face and was like "Wait, is that Tommy Oliver from my old MLP times?" Taking a closer look at the channel as the name didn´t ring any bells and... yeah, nice to see you again^^

  • @mila1195
    @mila1195 5 місяців тому +2

    I swear I played the old RE2 for the first time this year and fell in love with the fixed camera angles.

    • @ramrodbldm9876
      @ramrodbldm9876 5 місяців тому

      I swear you look like a resident evil zombie

    • @mila1195
      @mila1195 5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. This is exactly what I wanted to look like.

  • @masterneme
    @masterneme 5 місяців тому +5

    The Gamecube version of Resident Evil and Resident Evil Zero look amazing, imagine what could be done with today's computers, 4K photorealistic backgrounds. And with some tricks like having multiple layers the same way was done in Alone in the Dark 4, dynamic lighting. And if instead of using flat images you rendered a cubemap, the camera could have some rotation and it would look awesome.

    • @cube2fox
      @cube2fox 5 місяців тому

      With a modern engine like UE5 they could probably do it in real-time, no pre-rendering needed. The resolution would just be substantially lower than 4K.

  • @demontongue9893
    @demontongue9893 4 місяці тому +1

    The dog crashing through the window scene in resident evil 1 is one of the most iconic pieces of horror since the genre was documented.

    • @Onigumo.
      @Onigumo. 4 місяці тому +1

      That and hearing a window crashing when going downstairs until Nemy pops up

    • @dizzykwalla1198
      @dizzykwalla1198 3 місяці тому +1

      I still have PTSD from the dog crashing through the window. Since then I've never been able to even get close to window

  • @saryakan
    @saryakan 5 місяців тому +19

    An interesting game that uses them a lot without you noticing it was FFX. Pretty much all indoor maps, but through clever use of layers and parallax scrolling, even a big amount of outdoor areas trick you into thinking they are full 3D environments, when they actually are just pre rendered.
    It also had the best way to make things work with "modern" control style and abrupt camera changes, by keeping the character running forward after a camera change and only resisting when you change the input. Not perfect, but a decent solution.

    • @LadyEmilyNyx
      @LadyEmilyNyx 5 місяців тому +1

      Parasite Eve used the same controls 3 years earlier, and was also a Square game.

  • @Lumibear.
    @Lumibear. 4 місяці тому

    This was informative and fun, thank you for your time & effort in getting this out there.

  • @ZiddersRooFurry
    @ZiddersRooFurry 5 місяців тому +3

    Capcom recently settled a suit with a photographer whose work they used without permission. Starting in the 90's they used photographs from a book of reference photo's taken by Judy Juracek. The photos were from a book called 'Surfaces' that came out in '96 and the book came with a CD-ROM with over 1200 images. The 147-page court document was full of evidence showing how they'd used hundreds of her images in games like the Resident Evil series and Devil May Cry.

    • @karlk5801
      @karlk5801 4 місяці тому

      The Low Tech Way Resident Evil Tricked You, Judy Juracek

    • @ZiddersRooFurry
      @ZiddersRooFurry 4 місяці тому +1

      @@karlk5801 Not sure what this means but ok.

    • @karlk5801
      @karlk5801 4 місяці тому

      @@ZiddersRooFurry I thought it would be funny if the "You" in the video title wasn't standard clickbait but was specifically addressed to Judy Juracek who actually did get tricked. Sorry to bother you

  • @djking44151
    @djking44151 4 місяці тому

    My first thought when I started this video was MAN I hate fixed camera angles... but you know what you're right they are cool! Really enjoyed seeing you break it down and re-create it!

  • @SageX85
    @SageX85 5 місяців тому +14

    Thats not quite right how camera triggers worked on resident evil. They had a way more complex system, 2D shapes that cover the area, lets call those "zones", each camera could only hold 4 zones. A level could have a maximum of 16 cameras, so maximum 64 zones. But they werent 3D, boxes, they were 2D shapes, only 2D collision was checked, some trigonometry as done. Those zones could overlap with zones of other cameras but they wouldnt work unless the correct camera was active. The simple trigger volume doesnt works quite well compared to how the guys at capcom made it.
    Also the main reason to use prerendered BGs in today tech would be to get better antialias. And you could waste all the resources in either higher resolution at high framerate, or saturate with detail the character mesh. Like real buttons instead of normal maps.

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому +1

      Interesting! My goal wasn’t to recreate the camera system as it was done in RE 1:1, but rather show how it could be accomplished with modern tools. This is hardly a perfect system and would have issues scaling, but I think it works well enough for the demonstration.
      I had no idea the intricacies of the actual system used in the classic RE games, though. Is there a place I could read more about that? Sounds fascinating.

    • @SumeaBizarro
      @SumeaBizarro 5 місяців тому

      I think one reason to use "pre rendered" backgrounds in modern game is for unique aesthetic. Hand painted world. Like. FF7 meets Okami, and being able to make a guilty gear xrd detail level protagonist and enemies. Claymation meets resident evil, neverhood, darker.
      Pre rendered does not need to mean actually rendered, but photographs, paintings, drawings... A video file.
      And also. Vibe. Point of using actually live 3D like code veronica does was made but you could give it bigger Final Fantasy 9 vibe by having keyframed animations without tweening, like guilty gear xrd. 8frames for a spinning windmill, or three "frames" for water flow animation for a river.
      Signalis already embraced and still changed it's idea for new indie title borrowing from the vibes of PS1 horror.
      I kinda would love the same for PS1 RPG's. Though, partially this is kept alive as fantasian apparently uses dioramas that were digitized into the game's environments. Few 3DS games that still feels recent to me darnit also used hand painted or such static parts in their games, though not for all of the game, just select places.

    • @White927
      @White927 5 місяців тому

      ​@@SumeaBizarroSurvivor was the first 3D Resident Evil game.

  • @jackthaone
    @jackthaone 5 місяців тому

    Dude this was an amazing video. Great analysis, and great application of the old skool way games used to be.

  • @byoutifulmonster
    @byoutifulmonster 5 місяців тому +4

    Ohh shit, I was wondering who the hell this was when I got the notification. Glad you're back

    • @RoninKiheiji
      @RoninKiheiji 5 місяців тому +3

      I almost didn't recognize Tommy either.

    • @U-Flame
      @U-Flame 5 місяців тому

      Ye same, I was wondering if I had accidentally subscribed to some random channel, glad to see it was just a rebranding for someone I always look forward to seeing

    • @saryakan
      @saryakan 5 місяців тому

      Fuck, I just did Midway when reading this comment.

  • @AvantHorizon
    @AvantHorizon 5 місяців тому +2

    Awesome vid! I remember the moment I realized how they did this, was I love with all fixed perspective games. I remember being actually disappointed that code Veronica moved away from it

  • @MiQuentin
    @MiQuentin 5 місяців тому +5

    Oh tom’s doing videos? Sweet

  • @CharlieRacing83
    @CharlieRacing83 5 місяців тому +2

    Alone in the dark for PC in 1992 was the first horror game i know using this technique

  • @XzaroX
    @XzaroX 5 місяців тому +4

    They did not trick me. I always knew the environments were 2D. Many other games did that.

  • @TonikoPantoja
    @TonikoPantoja 4 місяці тому

    I loved this video!! Makes me want to learn about 3d and game design since I love low poly aesthetics. thanks!

  • @TwilightWolf032
    @TwilightWolf032 5 місяців тому +6

    I much prefer the pre-rendered graphics of early RE to modern ones.
    Sure, the modern ones are technically more impressive, but the older ones were ARTISTICALLY more impressive and allowed the developers to know exactly where the camera would be and what the player *wouldn't be able to see.*
    That allowed the developers to make spaces look more oppressive and claustrophobic, and players feel less in control of the situation by removing the ability to control what they can see and the angles they have at their disposal.

    • @LosMSR
      @LosMSR 5 місяців тому

      This concept didn't work nowadays, bc this was made a tons of times before, so right now with the power of graphics will be odd.

    • @TwilightWolf032
      @TwilightWolf032 5 місяців тому +1

      @@LosMSR Just like it is odd that some games would use 8/16-bits graphics nowadays that we have much higher resolution and graphical power? Tell that to Shovel Knight!
      And let's not forget Octopath Traveler and other 16-bit inspired graphics utilizing modern technology to bring that art style to the modern era of gaming with their 2DHD style.
      The concept itself is perfectly fine, and the oddity is just a matter of getting used to it. Th value is in how it would be used.

    • @LosMSR
      @LosMSR 5 місяців тому

      @@TwilightWolf032 Check the cinema of terror, they reused a lot the method of Blaire Witch Project, that was bored at the end, bc of that, over and over the same. That's a thing that some people forget about the past, that something was trendy before, bc was new, but later was just overuse.

    • @TwilightWolf032
      @TwilightWolf032 5 місяців тому +1

      @@LosMSR Exactly. Overuse.
      Now it's not being used anymore and we have plenty of variety in the industry.
      A revival of this style with finesse would do wonders.

    • @LosMSR
      @LosMSR 5 місяців тому

      @@TwilightWolf032 That's not the meaning of overuse, especially if there is a record of all.

  • @vtoumpakaris
    @vtoumpakaris 5 місяців тому

    Such an enjoyable way of presenting things! Thank you Tommy!

  • @RoninKiheiji
    @RoninKiheiji 5 місяців тому +5

    Holy crap! Tom!? Is that you? Good to see ya man! I almost didn't recognize you without your beret on.
    How's that vertical slice coming along?

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому +2

      Hey dude, thanks for watching!
      I ended up moving to a new game engine to try out 3D game dev. Life and multiple moves has made progress slow but the dream is still alive! This video series is hopefully gonna help grow interest in Azumi and improve my 3D skills!

  • @emocelot
    @emocelot 4 місяці тому +1

    pillars of eternity did something similar, though i suppose with just 1 camera from 1 angle you can move, while the "map" itself was a 2d painting with 3d things imposed on top.

  • @rodrigo3732
    @rodrigo3732 5 місяців тому +3

    I love this. Ps1 and Ps2 era is the best.

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому +2

      They just don’t make em like they used to 😔

    • @JasonP-d4i
      @JasonP-d4i 5 місяців тому +1

      @@PopStrikers I remember playing ff7, ff8, ff9 on ps1. really enjoyed those games so much and was very excited about the new hardware, the ps2 was coming out. I was imaging all the possibilities and what they could do when less limited. Interesting enough, their pursuit of fully 3d worlds and graphics I guess, made the games seem much less epic. I mean we lost the world map. We lost the airship. The locations became a straight line. The games were more obviously linear. A tragedy

    • @White927
      @White927 5 місяців тому

      ​@@PopStrikersRe 4 ruined it but you still praised the glory "one of the best" "one of the most influential" "if not the most enteraining video game of all time".

  • @NuggetVolley
    @NuggetVolley 5 місяців тому

    Enjoyed this mate, deserve more subscribers!

  • @Lolroflpie
    @Lolroflpie 5 місяців тому +7

    The fact that the gamecube remake of RE1 stuck to fixed camera angles with prerendered backgrounds still surprises me. That game would still look great if it came out today, and it was downright beautiful in 2002.

    • @pogal86
      @pogal86 5 місяців тому +2

      I'm actually replaying it again at the moment and even after all these years I'm still taken a back by just how gorgeous the game is. I understand how some people can find the control scheme a little jarring but once you learn how it works it never leaves you.

    • @White927
      @White927 5 місяців тому

      RE 4 ruined everything though.

    • @GugureSux
      @GugureSux 5 місяців тому +3

      This. It's hard to stress how mind-blowingly PHOTO REALISTIC REmake looked when it came out. I first saw some pre-view shots on a gaming magazine a year prior its release, and it was like watching a series of photos taken from movie scenes or something. The fact that it was also on a Nintendo system really shook people's understanding of the processing power levels of 6th gen consoles (GC was indeed way more capable than PS2).
      It's also good to remember that REmake 1 was made by the OG devs, for the OG veteran fans of the series. It's a clear love project, that is best played after the original trilogy (there's a lot of cool mind games in REm1 you only "get" that way), and also THE first big remake that started the whole boom. Literally every fan of any retro game has asked for a similar remake treatment for their favorite title since then... but sadly the modern day AAA studios are not into that.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 5 місяців тому

      Still is beautiful

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 5 місяців тому

      ​@@White927Resident Evil was declining in sales until RE4. I do wish they go back to fixed camera from time to time

  • @felixvids7238
    @felixvids7238 5 місяців тому +2

    glad to have you back :D

  • @iroxudont
    @iroxudont 5 місяців тому +32

    "Tricked"? No one thought it wasn't a jpeg way back in the day.

    • @unvaxxeddoomerlife6788
      @unvaxxeddoomerlife6788 5 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, most of us had already played Myst so we were used to seeing graphics like this.

    • @thfrussia6717
      @thfrussia6717 5 місяців тому +2

      well we can call bmp or jpeg every 3d frame from every game. i also don't get it wat is the trick there. yes it's a pre-render. fallout 2 and many other games are also pre-rendered

    • @Volt35
      @Volt35 4 місяці тому +2

      You are incorrect sir. Very few knew it was a jpeg.l, especially casual and younger players.

    • @tommj4365
      @tommj4365 4 місяці тому +2

      everyone knew it was palleted TGA or BMP or something, not JPEG which was not in wide use back then...

    • @briannorris1548
      @briannorris1548 4 місяці тому +1

      I was around 9 at the time and I remember wondering why these games looked so good compared to other ps1 game, so I'd say I was tricked

  • @steelman774
    @steelman774 5 місяців тому

    I was never a fan of the Resident Evil games BECAUSE of the locked in movement controls and cameras… but Man, this video was just so good I not only watched to the end (and “Liked”) but now I’m interested in downloading some of the older ones and just letting them play and see where my thumbs take me. I teach beginner level programming and these are some of (or mostly better versions of) tricks I teach them. Excellent video! Thanks!!

  • @niconicoseri
    @niconicoseri 5 місяців тому +3

    I know I fell for the clickbait, but we were not tricked in any way lol. We always knew those were pre-rendered images back then, same with DK Country. They didn't fool anyone.

  • @Bane_Amesta
    @Bane_Amesta 5 місяців тому +2

    The modern version os this for me is the camera floating by itself that's used in Eternal Darkness and Kuon, both allow for modern stick controls but keep the cinematic angles, and I think it should be done more often. It also make them easier to play to people like me who never got used to tank controls.

  • @Lilithe
    @Lilithe 5 місяців тому

    I almost didn't watch this one because of the thumbnail. I already knew how games like this did things and I didn't think I wanted to watch it over other things.
    It turned out to be really interesting and I subscribed because I like your style of showing a Unity example. Nice stuff!

  • @RTheu2109
    @RTheu2109 5 місяців тому +1

    RE might have been the most notorious for using fixed cameras and tank controls, but i think that this camera style peaked with Final Fantasy 9. Specially with the way they pretty much perfected the way to blend the CG cutscenes with the static images and gameplay all together, not to mention how gourgeous the scenary of that game is.
    I would love the return of fixed cameras and tank control games, even if it's "arcaic" style, it's perfect for games with fixed cameras and it definetly has room for lots of improvements, it would be amazing too see what the devs could pull off with today's tech.

  • @Synesthesiaum2
    @Synesthesiaum2 5 місяців тому

    Great video. I think you naild it. Thanks for taking me back in time 🙏

  • @snicklefritzed
    @snicklefritzed 4 місяці тому

    Camera angles were everything in the early RE games. I'll never forget the fixed camera angle on the doorframe in front of the bathroom (the one with the tub zombie) in the 2001 RE1 after the L shaped hallway with the dogs and windows. It gave you this portrait view of your character that you couldn't find anywhere else

  • @chrishoward3733
    @chrishoward3733 4 місяці тому +1

    Final fantasy 7,8 and 9 did the same thing. The only parts of those games that were not pre rendered were the overworld travels and battles.

  • @Dargonhuman
    @Dargonhuman 5 місяців тому +2

    In the PC port of RE2, they did give the option to use camera-relative controls instead of tank controls, and how they handled scene transitions was to lock the relative directions from the previous screen to the new screen until you let go of the directional controls.
    So, for example, if you're in a room that starts with an East facing camera (so that Up moved East), then transition to a camera angle facing North would keep the Up=East direction until you stopped to, say, shoot a revealed enemy, pick up an item or whatever interaction was required. On stopping, though, the controls would reorient to the new camera meaning Up was now North, and if you went back to the East facing camera, Up would continue to be North until you again let go of the directionals.
    That sounds like it would be clunky and confusing, but the seamless way they integrated it into the port never felt weird or out of place. In fact, it took me about three whole playthroughs just to notice what was happening because it felt so natural.

  • @candybeans
    @candybeans 5 місяців тому

    Amazing that even after two years and some mishaps, you still got this one out the door. And I learned that this worked pretty much the way I expected, but it was neat to see from the dev side.

  • @JusSageMakes
    @JusSageMakes 5 місяців тому +1

    TOM! THIS IS AMAZING! Im glad youre making fun vids one more

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому

      Thanks man! I'm glad to be back!

  • @HouseTrapJay
    @HouseTrapJay 5 місяців тому +1

    Takes a lot to impressive me with a video on classic Resident Evil, but damn this was one of the best ways of presenting this topic I've ever seen.
    10/10

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому

      Thanks dude, glad you enjoyed it.

  • @middleofnowhereradio
    @middleofnowhereradio 3 місяці тому

    Wonderful presentation! Great analysis here!

  • @phoenixshell3772
    @phoenixshell3772 Місяць тому

    Man! Thanks you for going deep diving into this topic. Recently been playing old childhood classic Digimon 1 that uses pre-rendered BG's, and I had to find out how they were developed. It was really odd to see what clearly looks like a 3D game because I can see the NPC maintain there world position but have the BG's rendered as images

  • @JoaoLuis_MB
    @JoaoLuis_MB 5 місяців тому

    Loved the Digimon World's soundtrack on background! Nice video!

  • @Sketchcraft
    @Sketchcraft 4 місяці тому

    Man, I really wish more games these days would tap into the magic of pre-rendered backgrounds. Seriously, it's like a lost art. You could slash the budget in half while still delivering some jaw-dropping visuals.

  • @mi2595bs
    @mi2595bs 4 місяці тому

    Honestly i clicked due to the title, but watched all the way through due to the beard :D Quite special, fascinating even. Anyhow, quite a nice video. Thx

  • @patyos2
    @patyos2 5 місяців тому +1

    I wish Capcom did a remake of Haunting Ground and kept the classic fixed camera and tank controls that game was a masterpiece

  • @annaisannaing
    @annaisannaing 4 місяці тому

    What a return - this was so good!!!

  • @大卫-u7d
    @大卫-u7d 4 місяці тому +1

    This video is funny to me because back then, all this was very well known. It was considered "cheating" by most gamers how they achieved the games graphics.
    Imagine going forward in time to watch a video explaining how the effect in LOtR was made to a generation who never heard of cgi and motion capture.

  • @AnhTran-bp1eo
    @AnhTran-bp1eo 5 місяців тому

    I love the pre-rendered 2D background of the original RE2 & 3. They're nostalgia fuel to me now. Whenever I look at these backgrounds, it feels like the late 90s was just yesterday.

  • @loiedonn4192
    @loiedonn4192 5 місяців тому

    Nostalgic.
    Brings back my elementary days but thankgoodness we are done with this.
    I cant imagine playing Resident Evil with fixed camera.
    RE4 spoiled me so much hahaha it changed Resident Evil for me forever.

  • @bpcgos
    @bpcgos 5 місяців тому

    More breakdown like this would be awesome,thank you...

  • @91tj
    @91tj 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this video. It was very helpful and nostalgic.

  • @EmeraldOtringal
    @EmeraldOtringal 5 місяців тому +1

    I love how you kept using the Legacy of Kain soundtrack way way longer than the short Soul Reaver clip ♥

  • @simval84
    @simval84 5 місяців тому +1

    Tank controls were also the result of trying to provide full freedom to a player to move in a 3d environment with a controller that, at the time, had no analog stick and only a d-pad for movement (original PS1 controller and Saturn controller).

  • @MrStupidlook
    @MrStupidlook 5 місяців тому

    Great video! I love the pre-rendered backgrounds and tank controls. Interesting to see some of how it was done.

  • @motbus3
    @motbus3 4 місяці тому

    Cool video. Watched til the end. Good luck with your channel

  • @ultimate.funkypunky
    @ultimate.funkypunky 5 місяців тому

    thank you for the enormous amount of effort you put in that explanation, I always loved this effect in the first games and wondered how it was done :0

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers  5 місяців тому

      No problem, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @LoganMPierce
    @LoganMPierce 5 місяців тому

    You nailed it bro. Great video.

  • @xard64
    @xard64 5 місяців тому +2

    One of the problems with the background images is that the resolution is pretty much fixed as any down or upscale usually looks just worse. Now we could use really high resolution images to counter the problem but back in the 90's the resolutions were kept down the QVGA levels due to SD television resolutions.
    Even if there would exist some of these 3d assets the issue is that as far as I understand the raw 3d renderings were very rarely used outside of animation sequences and the static background images and layers were usually heavily edited and digitally painted over to cover the early CGI rendering flaws and adding level of small detail not feasible to render at the time.

    • @Takuma_Sakazaki
      @Takuma_Sakazaki 4 місяці тому

      That's why it's better to play these games using Retroarch with crt shaders.