What will Mai Shiranui play like in Street Fighter 6!?
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- So we all know now that Terry Bogard and Mai Shiranui are making their way to Street Fighter 6 as guest DLC characters for year 2 of SF6! The thing about them showing up though is they sorta have to conform to the Street Fighter system compared to their usual Fatal Fury and King of Fighters appearances. Some things are easy to fit in, other things... not so much so lets talk about it!
We got a video for Terry Bogard in SF6 too, check it here: • What will Terry Bogard...
0:00 - Lets talk Mai Shiranui
2:40 - Her hopping days are over
3:55 - Whats likely to make it to SF6
6:07 - Whats less likely to make it into SF6
7:16 - Her SF6 super moves?
8:08 - What has to be changed
14:43 - Closing thoughts
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****EDIT**** "Oh so and so SF characters can "run" " Please believe me nobody in the history of SF has anything like a run comparable to the average SNK character lmao. They are not built the same. AND NO RASHID IS NOT COMPARABLE EVEN A LITTLE BIT lol, his run if it was in kof would be the worst run in kof history.
Alright wanted to talk a bit more about Mai and Terry after the big announcement but we had all those summer game fest vids to make! Basically long story short I think Terry is a pretty easy fit into Street Fighter but Mai... not as much, at least not without some changes. So hence the video! Of course its purely speculation on my part for basically everything in the vid as far as the translation to SF6 will go over, but well... gotta do something until terry and mai come out lol. So give a watch and let me know what you think!
ROOFLEMONGER: Will giving Mai and Terry a short run similar to RASHID be good enough or too much in your opinion. Maybe they can't have SNK run ...but Rashid Run!
doesn't rashid have that kind of run ?
@@Bkzflyest0823 no he doesn't. If rashids run was in KoF it would be the worst run in KoF history on so many levels.
@@rooflemonger cause its a street fighter run, they’ll probably give her something similar in 6
@@Bkzflyest0823 having a rashid run is literally not desirable for a SNK character. You can't use it at all the same way. Like there is literally no point to it, its not something I would want for her lol.
Sakurai: "Mai is for good boys and girls."
Capcom: "Well I think our audience has been well behaved for this treat."
As someone who's largely unfamiliar with Mai before now, no wonder her default pose is so hunched over, holy moly. People are going to need to quadruple check that their mods are turned off before streaming within a week of her release
yep, that's mai alright. iirc in universe it's on purpose to distract her opponent, but... we know who it's for.
@@emeraldmann1329it's historically accurate though xD. It was intended as the obvious distraction should she be seen on mission. Other ladies have copied her- Kasumi DOA, Chun Li to a degree with her dress and her SF6 outfit... it works obviously heh
If there's interest in a Terry-ized version of this video lemme know. I do think terry is easier to translate over so thats why I picked Mai to talk about but I can still sorta go over what makes Terry Terry in a SF context. Also not too far now until the launch of Bison in SF6 so expect the royal treatment for that, and ill squeeze in that Honda guide before that. I thought about making a video about the bison guide they put out last night but like... I sorta already covered all of what he does in my SGF video so felt kinda redundant.
Yes! Interesting is an understatement. Your videos are awesome.
I'm definitely interested! I'm curious if Rising Tackle will be a DP motion or a charge input
@@Korosivv We haven't had a single charge DLC character, so I'm like 97% certain it will be a DP motion. It really should be charge though.
Yes! Count me as interested for that, I've been thinking about that a lot myself and I'd like to have that perspective
@@DrSwazz Agreed, I'd like it to be charge but its kind of unlikely
😍 I have never been more interested in physics in my life since Mai's SF6 announcement.
Fr bruh I'm gonna go get a masters in physics now it's wild
@@DrSwazz 💯😂A+
Were sure you'll study very hard.
Typical clown 🤡
sounds like you'll "beating" the game many times over when she is playable
2:36 The whispering took me all the way out LMAO, great video as always
love this man for that!!
"No running" - Rashid main here, I'm going full Forest Gump every match.
I know he runs but its not like a kof run really, its much weaker.
@@rooflemonger I know it's a command move but Kimberly? Maybe it won't be in there just to avoid being too similar because they're already both ninjas
@@aledantih6524 command move means you are stuck into the run with only a few options. SNK runs are 100% free form from the start frame 1 and cancelable into anything. Also much faster than anything in SF to boot.
@@rooflemonger Oh bless you for replying to my silly joke comment. I know dude, it's not like GGStrive/KOF runs.
Btw, love your content, and would love some more personal vids, like details on older maybe lesser known fighters you love. SF6 has reignited my love of the genre and I'm picking up Breakers, Rumble Fish and Power Rangers battle for the grid. How about a history of your mains for your favourite games and what their tech strengths were, or why you loved them? I'd love that. But I know you're busy so you do you.
@@BenedictStreet
GGST is a bad comparison in my opinion cause the movement is less deep there
I tried explaining to my group of friends who only play Street Fighter and never played an SNK game that Terry and Mai will very likely be neutral skipping monsters if they are given even half of their degenerate stuff. SNK games are much different games
Terry in FEXL... OOOOFFFFF
Drive rush exists, they not giving them short hops or free runs like no this is sf6
andy is one lucky guy that dude has been living the good life for 30 years.
I better be able to CD my way to legend or I'll riot
2:35 was the weirdest most intimate roofle moment to date
Mai’s animation in KOF 13 is just HYPNOTIC.
I feel her drive rush is going to be crazy good
The best version of Mai in a crossover was in DOA5: Last Round in my opinion. I know it's a 3D game but yeah.
last round was a beautiful game. Shame about doa 6 :(
@@rooflemonger Yeah RIP DOA6 (predatory DLC, haphazard story and a silly costume unlock system ruined that game).
If you like her in DOA you should check out the Maximum Impact/2006 games. Her playstyle is somewhat inspired by her appearance in that game (same goes to Kula in 6). Not 1:1, but you can tell where they got their basis from.
Mai quickly became one of my favorites in DoA5. Never bought 6 because it was so similar so what was the point?
No way her air and ground CD is getting into the final moveset. That is so oppressive in KOF14 & 15, in SF6 it sounds horrifying, even with no hyper hops.
KoF 14 mai with her broken CD and stand LK was a godsend and carried me most of the time lol. I mentioned it in the original announcement but I used her kof 14/15 CD as an example of something that absolutely wouldnt be allowed in sf6
He knows what he's doing with that thumbnail
I mean, it's not like there are any modest Mai renders
yes I made a thumbnail that lets you know what the video is about :)
THAT'S JUST WHAT MAI IS LIKE. THERE IS NO SFW MAI
@@heliumpai7627 Mai is 100% or 0. There is no in between.
oh really lilbro? what pic of Mai you'd like?
Rooflemonger and Sax under the moon, name a better duo 🔥
"If there's a paycheck involved Mai will be there" SAME
Moveset: Full bodied
Playstyle: Well Rounded
Combo structure: Fertile and Limber
Honestly, her being the closest thing so far to Vega wall dive shenanigans already has me interested. Also super curious to see what the extra costume situation is going to look like with her and Terry going forward.
Terry 100% motw.
For Mai, it's either gonna be her outfit from Fatal Fury 3 or one of her many fits from the Maximum Impact games or maybe even SNK Heroines. There are many options
Terry is getting the brown leather jacket with the fur on the neck as a costume for sure. We have to cosplay at re4 Leon
@@captainmega6310 Yeah I'm sure Terry will get his Garou look at the least. What has me most intrigued is that, now that SF6 is already at 3rd alts for the cast, will Mai and Terry get also get totally new looks that aren't just callbacks?
Because if so, I'm definitely curious to see what Capcom can cook up for iconic characters who've pretty much never had that option before (Garou Terry being the exception).
2:27 this man knows whats really important here 😂
The vocal transition into intense creepiness was hilarious😂
Mai on the RE Engine with great physics = win. 2:35 😍
As someone who grew up playing more KOF than SF, I've always explained to people that KOF characters will need to be "nerfed" to exist in SF mechanics. Now we actually get to see it. And yea if you allow the runs and hops every other character will have no chance LOL
I cant stop laughing at you going full creeper at 2:40. You really nailed the Mai Fan.
I liked simply because 2:40. Salute my friend. Salute
I hope she gets back that throw from DOA5 where she perches on top of the opponent and explodes them, that was pretty cool (and hot)
We can only hope that her play style is.... "bouncy"
I assume you mean incorporating shorthopping into her gameplay. It would be interesting to see how they would balance that mechanic into a game with fairly strict means of mobility.
She's not getting a non resource short hop
My man is very excited about the power of the RE engine, rightfully so.
Wow. Playing KoF and SF at the laundry mat was such a different time. A very long time ago.
Mai in RE Engine is gonna be dangerous
For now I am most interested in how she is gonna look tbh. Capcom has not been shy about having sexy characters and costumes (like Cammy showing her ass with her classic costume) so I have faith in them.
And talking about costumes... what the fuck was going on with that zombie game? Why would someone have Mai as a guest if they are gonna give her shorts and an undershirt, lol.
Yeah, that zombie game outfit was sacrilege lol. Censored Mai just looks _wrong._
I wouldn't be surprised if her presentation is slightly less _blatantly_ fanservice-y in SF6, but I have a feeling they'll find a classy balance where she's still super-sexy, revealing, beautiful and well-animated. As long as she looks true to the character, graceful, and doesn't feel censored, we'll be fine. Same with Elena Outfit 02. Can't wait to see them!
Keep up the great content Rooflemonger, you are one of if not the best fighting game content creator on UA-cam. Helped me get into Street Fighter, Tekken and Guilty Gear. You’re the best!
thank you for the kind words 🙏
I know in general SF6 back jump divekicks aren't a thing, and it's been a general trend to get less off a back jump (ie Akuma no longer having back jump zankuu) but the exception to this is blanka airball. In the same way you've proposed fan toss might be made a charge move to retain its strength while still keeping it in line, could the same not be the case for the divekick?
In regards to charge divekicks being harder to get off a forward jump - blanka gets around that with his coward crouch jump being a command jump you can charge while inputting. A whole portion of this vid talked about how the only way hops could come back is if it's a specific command. Just saying..
Great vid as always btw!
Cute idea, nice
2:32 Boy, when someone wishes for it sooo hard, it sure comes true. :D
Roofle went into thirst mode for a second there lmao, it's understandable tho😂
I agree, I hope she gets to keep the bouncing fireball. That's something we haven't seen yet.
I doubt they'll have an additional resource, but I could see them maybe being able to cancel OD move into OD move or something.
EX fan toss with the 2nd hit would be rad. Having that kind of oki in SF would be cool to mix up the strike throw oki.
All I know is that I'm playing her as soon as she's out! Oh boy Mai!
I feel like her air to air grab should be mentioned as well, since Mai is a character that likes to jump a fair amount.
Mai might be a strong guest character in SF6 just like in DOA6 she was S tier on that game.
Can’t wait for Mai, definitely gonna be one of my mains
They should just give her everything no way that could go wrong 😤
Also they should drop the Mai trailer for COTW and street fighter at the same time and give Mai the new costume she might have
My thought was that Mai would use her CVS moveset, same with Terry
thats well over 20 years old and the characters have evolved since then. Handicapping yourself to one example game does neither character any favours
@@rooflemonger true. We will see how they play later on
Yuck! No thanks!
Some interesting ideas and I'm sure they're well informed.
Mai's fan might work like other physical projectiles in past street fighter games, like Ibuki's kunai, or Rolento's knife, and be easily slapped away by attacks.
Mai has 2 big reasons why she'll be top tier in SF6
I know what you mean ;)
Mai is the one I really want to try out the most of out the two SNK guests.
Elephant in the room: how are SF6 jiggle physics.
I can See that the snk Build will work here with her…
Wow!! I can't believe Mai Shiranui from DOA is coming to SF6!!!
I personally hope Mai keeps her Flying Squirrel antics and her ex fan doesn't change from how it works in KOFXV
Akuma has a dive kick. Mais dive attack will follow the same rules. She'll get a fire special and a fire finsher. The ninja elbow will be a grab.
a screen traversing flying ryu enbu will replace the run. That and she will have a flying fan drop similar to Bisons psycho arm drop.
100% hoping for the best GRAPHICS for her
Fandance could easily be her 6H. Lots of Mai's things will most likely seamlessly work in SF6 barring system mechanics like run and short hop
Capcom better make Mai faithful to the character lol. Better have all her assets.
They already have Cammy’s outfit 2 so I don’t foresee an issue, lol.
Jiggle Mai, jiggle!!!!! Thanks Capcom! THANKS SNK!
You guys are nasty minded with the breast jiggling sexual antics. Nobody wants to play SF 6 thinking about that all day from a woman. It is ridiculous.
I hope Capcom have stress tested the physics engine thoroughly before Mai is released....
I see them doing something similar to Kimberly’s cans if her fireball is considered too strong for SF6 having it on a stock system.
Regarding a back dive it’s unlikely that’ll make it to live and will just work so that it only works on forward/neutral jumps. It will be fine for juggles since I can think of two characters that can (granted spending resources) get some massive combos off a dive. Likely that it will be tied to an OD, OD dive into combo would be balanced imo since you’re spending drive.
It’s entirely possible they’ll give her something similar to C Viper’s super jump where inputting say up twice does a regular jump and up once does the hop, if it operated like that with being able to cancel moves with the jump it could be very interesting in terms of skill expression. (If they wanted to give her a hop anyways).
With the current roster, it’s safe to say she’ll be fine, she probably won’t have some of the KOF mechanics because these guest characters tend to be more about imagining a character in that games mechanics rather than importing their mechanics to that game (cough Akuma in Tekken).
If anything fan service will sell season passes anyways. So if she’s strong or not people are just going to play because it’s Mai. Capcom have done a fairly decent job of having the roster have their own strengths and weaknesses so I have no doubt that they’ll have Mai feeling like Mai but in SF6 terms.
What else can we do but trust them since they’re doing guests so early when so many of the wanted SF characters are missing
Gotta make sure those graphics are really good 💀💀💀
I predict she will be similar to CvS2. Her qcb+p (Ryuenbu) will be unsafe, same with her hcf+k elbow move, Her fan toss will be standard fireball and it wouldn't surprise me if the EX fan will be like in the KOF games where it will fly up and down. Her Dive will depend on what capcom decides to do with that. I don't think she is too good for SF, but it's more like what will capcom's approach on what she will play like. If they will base this of Fatal Fury, like in Real Bout 2, a lot of her special moves were completely safe but her normals wasn't as great. But SF6 isn't about special moves, it's about using normals, whiff punishment for punish counters and Drive system reliant. Not very many "neutral skip" moves in sf6. So i highly doubt Mai will be very strong. Same goes with Terry, like i don't see ppl Spamming Jab burn knuckle like in Fatal Fury and KOF games.
All we need are those graphics and physics.
Lmao be faithful to the character portion gotna good chuckle out of me
2:30 Bigger hitboxes means easier to Spinning Piledrive, and I think all us fellow apes agree that Mai has very large hitboxes…
How will they handle her idle animation? Will she be bigger than the other ladies? And... who will voice her in English?
Mai will never have shoryuken move again. She was high top tier in that game and it must have spooked SNK to no ends because they never gave it too her saying it was too strong. Then gave it to Sylvie. Which suprised me greatly because i thought the move was too op😂
Her best move would be her classic idle stance 😅
God I love SNK games
What's true is there will be feet and toes. They chose the Real Bout Fstal Fury costume with no tabi (socks) for a reason. They could have easily gone for KoF costume otherwise. This is true with Elena as well. Capcom is going hard with their foot animation technology lol
Everyone in the comments arguing over whether or not shell have her run, but what I wanna know is if she and Terry will have a roll. Now obviously, a regular KOF style roll would be absolutely bonkers in a Street Fighter game, but I could see it working as a command input, similar Happy Chaos' roll in Guilty Gear. The regular version could be a low profile, with it travelling further distances but having more end lag based on the button used, and the EX version could be fully invincible to non-throw moves like the rolls in KOF.
Capcom have had rolls before- SFA3 as one example
Thanks for the video, I don’t agree with what you say about the run and short hops though. IMO those are the two things that have to be in there so both characters keep their identity. As you mentioned yourself in your comment, rashid has a run, and even if his run sucks by kof standards, it is good by sf standards, which is the important part imo. Regarding hops, I would do it so that they can’t choose between jumping and hopping, but rather give mai and terry a jump similar to Dudley’s in 3s, which is almost like a hop by sf standards. Regarding the normals, specials and supers I completely agree with you, but running and hopping have to at least kind of be in to keep the essence of the characters. I’m looking forward to seeing how Capcom approaches this, it’s the most interesting part of the whole thing imo.
The reason Mai comes out last is that Capcom is still working overtime on her jiggle physics.😂😂😂
She comes out before Elena lol, Capcom just made a confusing graphic design choice
@suicidal_donuts6191, you are right. I just saw the placing of her at last and did not look at the dates. That's good. Then I am more excited for Mai than Elena anyway.
They are working on her feet/toes animation, same as Elena. It's harderto get right than jigglies.
2:30 huh?!? omigosh
I think in general an easy way to put it is that system mechanics from guest character games (run, hop, ring-out, etc) will most likely not be included. Sometimes you see stuff like that if it functionally overlaps with an existing system mechanic such as Ryu's Focus Attack just being an armor move in Smash but most guest characters aren't gonna be like say, Akuma bringing super meter, fireballs, and FADC into Tekken.
Mai gonna be OP in gameplay probably like high tier.
I think I have a feeling,....MAI Shiranui's playstyle will have those mechanics from her REAL BOUT playstyle from FATL FURY installments! oh beware to those who love Mai's feet! she's already a IBUKI replacement!
Mai oh mai, im going to buy me the season pass.
One thing I never figured out with her is what special move use as a reveral since she lacks a dragon punch.
Ken has a run in 6 & V, so idk why Mai couldn’t have one. Zeku had one in V, like Guy did. I see Mai getting hops, runs, jumps like all the Buunshin/Ninja characters, since they never follow SF “rules”.
Never played these games, the level designs look so sick!
I played fatal fury back in the day, about as close as it gets I think? I'll sure be picking that new one up day one, looks amazing.
That fan slice would fit in with the Honda/Lily chops.
Kim & Guy do have run moves along with the wall jump. It would make sense that Mai will follow a similar mechanic but also be a bit like bisons forward knee press with her flying ryu enbu
In the last big patch, a number of commentators kind of complained that there were no new mechanics. Would it be possible to add a version of running/hopping as a universal or multiple character mechanic to SF6?
I'd love to see that.
Cammy's second costume could use some good competition, that's all I'm sayin'
I see that coming with Elena's Outfit 02 as well, but of course Mai will be right up there with them
She is super strong.
Im sorry man i didn't hear a word you said. I was distracted. good video tho
Kagero no mai was charge in rbs. In ff3 it was down, down. I forgot how it was in original rb.
That fire twirl will be like, heavy is plus on block but has a gap. Been playing some mk1 and it's making me appreciate how... 'designed' sf characters are.
3:52, Ken quick step would like to answer that question.
i explain it in the terry vid, any SF analogue to running is straight garbage compared to a SNK run and pointless to give them.
can't wait to see terry in SF6, hopefully in this coming Evo, and excited to what SNK will reveal for next DLC for KOF15. Fun times again ^_^
Since she has so many special moves I wonder if it would make sense to make her a stance character with two sets of specials.
This could be interesting that kof fighters would engage more in sf games imagine the future seasons if we have more snk characters
Nah rooflemonger is tweaking💀@2:30
I would assume they probably would make them closer to their fatal fury incarnations as i believe those dont have hops or running
I love the meaning behind Terry and Mai's presence in Street Fighter 6. But coming to think of it, it feels like Mai coming out still in this season is a burned start.
She should've come as a star of season 3, with other Street Fighter characters. People would still be happy because they're still numb for Terry's presence.
Naw you gotta do all the _insert game_ guest characters in one go. Can't keep digging into the well season after season
@@rooflemonger not really. I'm cool with guest characters in it, but current Street Fighter bench is huge. The game has 88 characters since SF to SF6, and there's a lot of fan favorites. Not to mention the new faces. They nailed it with Kimberly, Marisa, Manon, Jamie, Luke, Lili and JP, and I wonder what they saved to future DLC seasons.
I love that she has a projectile, and her Hanzo Hatori-like flame pillars look cool. But mannn, I wish she had more traditional ninjutsu-like techniques. She doesn't have any teleports 😢
something tells me there's a reason why you brought up the lane attack and ring-outs in this video but not in the Terry one
6:18
Maybe they can use her ass attack as a parry ?
Kinda like with B Jenet in FF City Of The Wolves trailer
So today I learn SF is to vanilla for Mai :O
realistically thats kinda how it is for most of the SNK cast. KoF specifically in general is just a much faster, much less forgiving game than street fighter. So to be good in KoF means you would be absolutely insane in SF.
Mai = Buy. 'Nuff said.
I really hope they make her tricky and cool.
I do wonder how much of her sex appeal (stance, animations) will survive DEI at Capcom.
Have seen sf6? 😂