I Asked 100 Tournament Players To Make a Fighting Game Tier List

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  • @Diaphone
    @Diaphone  8 місяців тому +802

    My first attempt at an IRL video - shoutouts to Justin Wong for the help on this. If this vid gets 2000 Likes I'll make another (challenge?)
    Also turns out I don't know how to hold a mic, so sorry for the occasional audio issue. We had to cut a lot of footage for a few reasons (mostly audio or for pacing), so apologies if you participated but didn't make the video

    • @brobafett9151
      @brobafett9151 8 місяців тому +8

      Success man, love this content from you brother. Keep it coming!

    • @P0liFGC
      @P0liFGC 8 місяців тому +11

      This was your first?? I never would’ve guessed. Would def like more videos like this

    • @Eilanzer
      @Eilanzer 8 місяців тому +1

      love this video man!

    • @Zuyoga
      @Zuyoga 8 місяців тому +1

      this is fun!

    • @quartzeye8329
      @quartzeye8329 8 місяців тому +3

      This video was SUPER entertaining. Great stuff!!! (Besides the +R / Xrd / BBCF erasure).

  • @jwonggg
    @jwonggg 8 місяців тому +4227

    MK11 never left my spot LMFAO

    • @Zefraxa
      @Zefraxa 8 місяців тому +146

      You were just spitting ng facts from the start, lmao

    • @superbadisfunny
      @superbadisfunny 8 місяців тому +35

      When your right your right and if you was wrong you could have been right.

    • @user-bkey
      @user-bkey 8 місяців тому +8

      LOL

    • @baconbitz7804
      @baconbitz7804 8 місяців тому +19

      They should’ve let you make the list from the start. All facts no printer

    • @MrCageCat
      @MrCageCat 8 місяців тому +12

      Why you're up there with the pros Justin, you know your shit 😂

  • @Calhasnopals
    @Calhasnopals 8 місяців тому +3334

    Justin is so real for sacrificing his tier for MK11’s downfall. That’s my GOAT

    • @zanpakutoman4225
      @zanpakutoman4225 8 місяців тому +123

      The only game that never got moved LUL.

    • @MrMooMoo088
      @MrMooMoo088 8 місяців тому +88

      Tier list is accurate just for having this. Mk11 is absolutely trash.

    • @Ronbotnik
      @Ronbotnik 8 місяців тому +56

      MK been trash for a hot ass minute Justin the GOAT for that

    • @MikeRosadoGaming
      @MikeRosadoGaming 8 місяців тому

      🔥🔥🔥👍🏽

    • @KCAssassin98
      @KCAssassin98 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Ronbotnik nice try

  • @Maepull
    @Maepull 7 місяців тому +682

    "what you got against fighterZ?"
    "nothing i just keep getting my ass beat on it"
    i wanna elect that mf for president ive never seen someone represent my feelings so much 😭

    • @cody3504
      @cody3504 4 місяці тому +10

      As someone who grew up playing Dragon Ball Z games Fighters Z was a lot different than what im used to. I’d say the last amazing Dragon Ball Z game up until Kakarot and the upcoming Sparking Zero, Dragon Ball Raging Blast 2 is the least talked about game ever and i dont know how media never covered it. That game was so much fun and i made so many memories

    • @keeferussell8169
      @keeferussell8169 3 місяці тому +1

      Bc burstlimit was better and not even done

    • @cody3504
      @cody3504 3 місяці тому +1

      @@keeferussell8169 Burst Limits an OG too

    • @jimmythecrow
      @jimmythecrow 2 місяці тому

      the animations suck, its like 22 fps. not fun

    • @lemonscentedgames3641
      @lemonscentedgames3641 Місяць тому

      ​@@cody3504Thats because every DBZ fighter game was an arena fighter until FighterZ which is much more like a traditional streetfighter (meaning its harder to play than an arena fighter)

  • @professorlapis8305
    @professorlapis8305 7 місяців тому +272

    "Get injustice up outta there"💀💀💀 lmfao this is a fire vid diaphone

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt 6 місяців тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Myth_or_Mystery76
      @Myth_or_Mystery76 Місяць тому

      Injustice wasn’t even that bad. People just got bullied by Death stroke, and they had PTSD. Nothing compared to the second one 🙄

  • @etl2474
    @etl2474 8 місяців тому +754

    Fighting game community can't even come together to make a decent tier list

    • @Hawko1313
      @Hawko1313 7 місяців тому +61

      Tbh nearly every game on that list is good. There’s no way to make it satisfying, but that’s the enjoyment.

    • @christiankoll1528
      @christiankoll1528 7 місяців тому +42

      It's almost as if they're too busy.... fighting! 😆
      I'll see myself out.

    • @chillbro2275
      @chillbro2275 6 місяців тому +4

      haha And that's a good thing.

    • @chillbro2275
      @chillbro2275 6 місяців тому +3

      @@christiankoll1528 hahaha yeah man hahahaha but grab a free snack before you go

    • @crashbandicoot5636
      @crashbandicoot5636 6 місяців тому +5

      I mean, when you say "Fighting game community" that's such a wide blanket, 2D and 3D fighting games themselves differ immensely not to mention all the different franchises and sub-genres.

  • @austinzobel4613
    @austinzobel4613 7 місяців тому +17

    The way the tier list organized itself was setup so it wasn't an objective way of seeing it... but it DID make a fun way of doing it that was good enough

  • @ITNoetic
    @ITNoetic 8 місяців тому +592

    My man strolled up in an Aaliyah shirt and said confidently, "Breakers Revenge." What a man of culture

    • @Marzimus
      @Marzimus 8 місяців тому +17

      I swear the demo is the whole game. Download it on any console I come across to spread FGC vibes.

    • @boomguy2
      @boomguy2 8 місяців тому +8

      When I saw this dude I immediately scrolled down to the comments lmao. Mans truly exuding that aura (see my Condor)

    • @KazumaKiryu-0
      @KazumaKiryu-0 8 місяців тому +5

      Was looking for this comment or about to make my own. R I P babygurl

    • @ecsfusion7472
      @ecsfusion7472 7 місяців тому

      Like seriously.......dude knows what's up for sure

    • @ImStillMarz
      @ImStillMarz 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Marzimus Wait fr? So the only point of buying the game is to play online?

  • @NenadTricko
    @NenadTricko 8 місяців тому +782

    "arcsys gave us rollback" if only he knew

    • @itscanyonevesimp
      @itscanyonevesimp 8 місяців тому +30

      Let them dream. I'm still dreaming okay

    • @rasha1a
      @rasha1a 8 місяців тому +97

      Melty Blood crawled through nails and broken glass so modern fighting games could shoot themselves in the knees releasing without rollback

    • @aboxonmydesk319
      @aboxonmydesk319 7 місяців тому +6

      Didn’t they release rollback?

    • @ericg1100
      @ericg1100 5 місяців тому +2

      Idk why people act like dbfz has bad netplay, ive never had a problem with glitching like i have w smash bros

    • @Crackhog
      @Crackhog 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ericg1100 when does smash online glitch, like ever?

  • @danielbueno8474
    @danielbueno8474 7 місяців тому +489

    Shoutouts to that one girl at the end who saved Tekken 7 from being unfairly thrown to the bottom tier by some filthy casual

    • @punkypony5165
      @punkypony5165 7 місяців тому +83

      100% she’s an unsung hero

    • @mattia362
      @mattia362 6 місяців тому +1

      Real

    • @kaz_araya7960
      @kaz_araya7960 6 місяців тому +13

      Lil kid probably had no idea how to tech roll too

    • @budgetcommander4849
      @budgetcommander4849 6 місяців тому +38

      @@kaz_araya7960He knew he was unqualified at least lmao

    • @pandaclysm205
      @pandaclysm205 5 місяців тому +4

      So sweaty and elitist

  • @Ti7Vk3y
    @Ti7Vk3y 8 місяців тому +105

    Love the passionate GG speech @ 13:01 followed by the public execution @ 13:27 lmao. Love the idea of this type of tier list where it's mostly for engagement and fun.

    • @EzKay_PX
      @EzKay_PX Місяць тому

      Bro istg people are never movin on and just understanding that it is a different game from xrd LMAO

  • @snakeoftalins2805
    @snakeoftalins2805 8 місяців тому +213

    Can’t believe I didn’t recognize you! I’m the guy in the orange shirt that picked SF6. Great content as always.

  • @Broasty25
    @Broasty25 7 місяців тому +72

    Man no Killer Instinct hurts

    • @D2MMA
      @D2MMA 7 місяців тому +1

      Damn, I loved that game

    • @lajeandom
      @lajeandom 4 місяці тому +2

      It's almost a crime haha

    • @kate804
      @kate804 3 місяці тому +1

      Truth teller

    • @Pepsidud32
      @Pepsidud32 3 місяці тому +5

      no Viruta Fighter hurts just as much.

    • @0thereaper0
      @0thereaper0 2 місяці тому

      bunch of gnarly zoomers

  • @d0gh0t
    @d0gh0t 7 місяців тому +519

    No Tekken 3, No MK9, No Killer Instinct, No Street Fighter 4, etc. dude wtf

    • @PowerRobMusic
      @PowerRobMusic 7 місяців тому +107

      MK9 and USFIV was the peak of fighting games as far as I'm concerned.

    • @ScorpionF1RE----USA
      @ScorpionF1RE----USA 6 місяців тому +13

      agreed. theyre tryin to promote sf6

    • @josefsad1502
      @josefsad1502 6 місяців тому +46

      Killer Imstinct is the best!

    • @amai2307
      @amai2307 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@PowerRobMusicsounds like a guy, who havent played mbaa.

    • @mellomoose_
      @mellomoose_ 5 місяців тому +9

      sf4 is my pick, and i was waiting for somebody to say it lmao

  • @mercilessbaker
    @mercilessbaker 8 місяців тому +112

    Nah to do this in person is too much effort, gotta flag people down and correct them and explain the rules every time, what a champ! Enjoyed seeing how happy everyone was talking about their favorite fighting game, very wholesome.

    • @zanpakutoman4225
      @zanpakutoman4225 8 місяців тому +4

      It might've been easier if he just had an art board and drew 5 empty squares next to each tier, and printed out the box art of different games. He would've had to pick out the games and you wouldn't get wild picks like SFxT and Cross Tag Battle. But, it definitely would've saved some hassle.
      EDIT: As soon as I commented this, I saw Justin's public OP character tier list video.

    • @sultanmuwaffaq6173
      @sultanmuwaffaq6173 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@zanpakutoman4225 i mean the voters could bring those game down a tier or two if they don't agree with it but i guess the hate for NRS games is just stronger 🤣

  • @LSYagami
    @LSYagami 4 місяці тому +4

    i think my favorite part about of this video is seeing the variety of different people in the community. Just started watching FGC content recently it's feels like I'm opening a treasure chest of personalities - it's a blast to see such a diverse crowd all in one place

  • @librarygary1618
    @librarygary1618 8 місяців тому +562

    "I like to play 2k and like a Blaz Blue at the same time" 😭😭😭

  • @briangoulet948
    @briangoulet948 8 місяців тому +606

    Garou in trash? Yeah people have no idea what they're talking about lmao

    • @thesaltmerchant4564
      @thesaltmerchant4564 8 місяців тому +10

      It's fine

    • @KTP200
      @KTP200 8 місяців тому +73

      I see it as one of those games that countless people revere, but barely anyone actually enjoys playing long sets of

    • @ThatWolfArrow
      @ThatWolfArrow 8 місяців тому +37

      The goal of this list isnt to ge accurate but to cause discourse.

    • @OmarVedlity
      @OmarVedlity 8 місяців тому +29

      I think Granblue is hot garbage made for 9 years old. It’s all opinions man.

    • @sobornes239
      @sobornes239 8 місяців тому +38

      Unfortunately... There's no King Of Fighters 2002 UM or 98 UM in this list too, simply because Kof isn't that popular in the USA.

  • @nostalgiccollector89
    @nostalgiccollector89 4 місяці тому +5

    Bro fighting gamers have such a good handle on why they love their games. I appreciate the in-depth perspective. You can tell their about it.

  • @ApacheJay156
    @ApacheJay156 8 місяців тому +91

    I agree with the guy who said MK2. Even if it's not as deep as modern games, if you experienced it, it was a social phenomenon that has no equal in the modern era of online battles. To be at the arcade with 20 other guys around the machine doing a fatality that you learned about on usenet was just an experience that no one in the later generations can even understand.
    Also soul calibur 2 was great for similar reasons, but it also had the depth that MK lacked.

    • @victorvenable587
      @victorvenable587 6 місяців тому +2

      I think out of the older MK games, that was the game. And if you go to an arcade, you're most likely are going to see a MK2 machine before you'll see a 3, Ultimate 3, and heck, the first one.
      Agree with SC2 as well.

    • @zekarou7831
      @zekarou7831 5 місяців тому +2

      MK2 is very special for me as well, and it's the best MK.. IMO. I always come back to it. Even better now that somebody made a MUGEN of MK2 called *"MK II remix".* They take everything best from the original and enhanced it. It's super awesome. I'm in love with that game and haven't touch any other fighting games for months now. 🙂

    • @OutNAbout415
      @OutNAbout415 5 місяців тому +2

      Thank goodness i grew up in this era. I was blown away and even the first Tekken on ps1.

  • @tastyscavenger
    @tastyscavenger 7 місяців тому +21

    This really puts a lot of conversations I have seen in perspective, turns out passion in fighting games =/= taste in fighting games.

  • @DenkyManner
    @DenkyManner 5 місяців тому +21

    Being so surprised at MKII is a bit weird imo. There's nothing about it, it was gigantically popular and a full on pop culture event. It's like being surprised if someone said Doom was their favourite game.

    • @djandrewification
      @djandrewification 3 місяці тому +2

      He said he never played it so it makes sense that he'd respond that way

    • @Debbie-qs2xo
      @Debbie-qs2xo 2 місяці тому +1

      Or its like saying nba jam is your favorite basketball game. Which just like mk 2 was a cultural phenomenon, that pulled in even non gamers w its accessibility and flashy style. With that and potential nostalgia, would likely be picked by some even though it doesnt have a lot of depth or any chance for a competitive community forming around it.

    • @jesuspernia8031
      @jesuspernia8031 День тому

      In terms of classic games, MK2 is actually really damn good. I would go with UMK3 though.

  • @CurlyQ896
    @CurlyQ896 8 місяців тому +1384

    I love how everyone came together to say MK 11 was trash lmao

    • @librarygary1618
      @librarygary1618 8 місяців тому +65

      That 21 Savage reveal trailer at the game awards was sick as hell though

    • @gigabyte3420
      @gigabyte3420 8 місяців тому +18

      @@librarygary1618unironically my favorite fight scene in all media

    • @TiredAsl
      @TiredAsl 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@librarygary161821 was my fav rapper at the time, shit was hype 💯

    • @MangaGamified
      @MangaGamified 8 місяців тому +2

      I already felt it was lackluster compared to the customization of moves of MK10, as usual your average player can't form opinions unless they're high in ranked or a pro.

    • @angelstyle9677
      @angelstyle9677 8 місяців тому +11

      @@librarygary1618unfortunately a 90 second trailer doesn’t make up for an absolute dog shit game stale gameplay.

  • @Zamreye
    @Zamreye 8 місяців тому +41

    Sick video, the irl content is a cool change of pace and I always love seeing players passionate about different games

  • @DB-cm4lf
    @DB-cm4lf 5 місяців тому +21

    *dude plays devil's advocate for 18 min straight* "i dont make the rules" 😂

  • @eyekahnzuya
    @eyekahnzuya 8 місяців тому +106

    My goat is SF4. It single handedly brought arcades back for the time being and helped with the transition to home consoles immensely. Not to mention, it literally saved EVO. Without that game, EVO wouldn’t be a thing anymore. (HM’s: MVC2, UMVC3 & SF3S)

    • @PowerRobMusic
      @PowerRobMusic 7 місяців тому +1

      My all time favorite fighting game, by far

    • @GAMERGUYXL
      @GAMERGUYXL 7 місяців тому +3

      Same. As much as i like SF6, I really wish I could find people to play 4 with.

    • @BrainSuspendedInFluid
      @BrainSuspendedInFluid 7 місяців тому +2

      Sf4 ranked on xbox was so much fun

    • @ScorpionF1RE----USA
      @ScorpionF1RE----USA 6 місяців тому +1

      SF4 is GOAT

  • @ego3162
    @ego3162 7 місяців тому +326

    13:53
    He is exactly how i picture someone who'd say the phrase "Strive isn't Guilty Gear"

    • @bulletsunderpressure
      @bulletsunderpressure 7 місяців тому +85

      Yup. He definitely looks like a reddit user.

    • @G3N0M3501DI3R
      @G3N0M3501DI3R 7 місяців тому +38

      Strive is still Guilty Gear but GGXXAC+R is still better.

    • @punkypony5165
      @punkypony5165 7 місяців тому +1

      Lmao

    • @tita4359
      @tita4359 7 місяців тому +37

      I mean he’s not wrong. Strive went against all of the design principles of previous guilty gears just to try to garner more mainstream appeal. It’s a dumbed down watered down guilty gear

    • @oat_mllk
      @oat_mllk 7 місяців тому +21

      @@tita4359I mean, people put mvc2 up there cause it was the first game they learned and for nostalgia, being easier to learn is good for new players who’ve never played before

  • @crashbandicoot5636
    @crashbandicoot5636 6 місяців тому +7

    The dude who said KOF '97 almost had me, then he broke my f'in heart when he brought down Tekken 7 for that. Come on man, you were the chosen one!
    Edit: What the actual hell was that guy in the orange backpack even talking about, what do you mean there's too many moves!? You don't have to know all of them, just go with what you're comfortable doing or, hell, just button mash jfc.

  • @JusRed48
    @JusRed48 8 місяців тому +13

    I really like the format of doing a community tier list like this where people can add any stuff and then eventually can just switch places of two games.

  • @swagd1337
    @swagd1337 8 місяців тому +308

    This breaks my heart seeing no Virtua Fighter on here, literally one of the most important fighting game series of all time.

    • @cd.knuckles
      @cd.knuckles 8 місяців тому +34

      VF will rise again brother

    • @dejanbogdanovic4147
      @dejanbogdanovic4147 8 місяців тому +24

      Virtua & Bloody Roar 2 beyond goats...

    • @fivefive9514
      @fivefive9514 8 місяців тому +17

      because most of the FGC have shallow minds and only play street fighter clones .. VF5US still has daily players online over 2 years later, though. DOA5 and DOA6 have a playerbase on PS4 too.

    • @gameclips5734
      @gameclips5734 8 місяців тому +2

      where is dynasty warriors

    • @breadburner7276
      @breadburner7276 8 місяців тому +26

      @@fivefive9514grrrr how dare people not like my very niche game they must be stupid RAAHHHHHH I HATE OPINIONS

  • @paradigm_sh1ft
    @paradigm_sh1ft 6 місяців тому +27

    I'm glad Melee made it onto the list. I feel like a lot of traditional fighting game players sleep on it. Easy GOAT for me.

    • @dailawn
      @dailawn 3 місяці тому

      smash games are dog water. classic fighters for life babyyyyy

    • @-rifi934
      @-rifi934 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@dailawnL take Smash is DEFINITELY better than fucking Mk2, Mk11 and Marvel Superheros...

  • @maxmacdeath
    @maxmacdeath 8 місяців тому +227

    Soul Calibur 2 is underrated as fuck, this game is peak 3D fighting

    • @spiffythealien
      @spiffythealien 8 місяців тому +18

      Peak fighting, period. FGC says they love SCII *more* than SC on the Dreamcast, the fighting game that was seriously considered for GotY (not fighting game of the year, just GotY, period) when it's immediate competition was VF3, Tekken 3 and SFIII3S, but they always pretend it's a 'lesser' Tekken even though it controls better and is easier to learn despite the characters having *more* moves than Tekken characters (over half the cast of SCVI had more moves than T7 King). It's sad.

    • @gameclips5734
      @gameclips5734 8 місяців тому +8

      @@spiffythealien SC3 is objectively better than 2 imo, but 2 was my first SC game so I love it too.

    • @christianinfante8657
      @christianinfante8657 8 місяців тому

      That's not how you spell tekken

    • @CloudStrifeZX
      @CloudStrifeZX 7 місяців тому

      agree, that game was and still is awesome

    • @noremac387
      @noremac387 7 місяців тому +1

      Kof 97 or 13, 3rd strike, mvc2, and melee all GOAT tier.

  • @ultimateman55
    @ultimateman55 8 місяців тому +154

    Respect to the older guy shouting out MK2 that shit was absolute god tier when it released. One of the best presentations ever, especially in the sound department.

    • @hjblacdes61
      @hjblacdes61 8 місяців тому +12

      MK3 was better

    • @Jmunkholm
      @Jmunkholm 8 місяців тому +15

      But the gameplay aged like milk at the top level. It is just Jax vs Mileena spamming their broken moves. (I love MK2 on a casual level)

    • @EliosMoonElios
      @EliosMoonElios 8 місяців тому +6

      You are talking from nostalgia, the gameplay was normal and the tier list was bullshit.

    • @mazystarr
      @mazystarr 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Jmunkholm at very high level play, jax held up but top had to be kung Lao hands down for easy full life touches. I don't even think mileena was in the convo

    • @mazystarr
      @mazystarr 8 місяців тому +8

      @@hjblacdes61 mk3u is the goated mk period. People still playing online and running tournaments

  • @Tokyo5o
    @Tokyo5o 7 місяців тому +139

    Strive at the bottom says everything about this toer list lol

    • @nestorgonzalez8021
      @nestorgonzalez8021 5 місяців тому +56

      No mention prior Guilty Gear entries hurts the soul

    • @boop733
      @boop733 5 місяців тому +14

      Seems accurate

    • @Matias-zh3dp
      @Matias-zh3dp 4 місяці тому +28

      That its accurate? There is a reason why japanese players (the best GG players) dont even play this game.
      SPOILER: Because its trash.

    • @CantHandleThis6
      @CantHandleThis6 4 місяці тому +38

      ​@@Matias-zh3dpYou seem salty. If the game was trash it wouldnt be as big as it is. Xrd is fun so is +R but dont disrespect Strive to push an agenda

    • @Matias-zh3dp
      @Matias-zh3dp 4 місяці тому +6

      @@CantHandleThis6 *as big as it is in america.

  • @zarante5640
    @zarante5640 8 місяців тому +100

    kinda crazy that no one brought up USF4. Felt like that is very loved nowadays and went on forever during its time

    • @EliosMoonElios
      @EliosMoonElios 8 місяців тому +1

      It was too hard at competitive level, so PRos don't enjoy it that much.

    • @JimmySlippit
      @JimmySlippit 8 місяців тому +12

      that and no mention of SF2 (unless I missed it) is just baffling, those were the defining fighting games of their era
      Shout outs to the guy who said Breakers Revenge tho

    • @gameclips5734
      @gameclips5734 8 місяців тому +3

      @@JimmySlippit SF2 has not aged well

    • @GAMBOLLL81
      @GAMBOLLL81 7 місяців тому

      yun broke the game

    • @dznutskong
      @dznutskong 7 місяців тому

      I'm not too involved in this community but maybe it's one of those games that most people enjoy, but few would call their #1 favorite?

  • @zanpakutoman4225
    @zanpakutoman4225 8 місяців тому +14

    This was cool! It definitely shows what the general audience thinks of games, when a game would get placed high then immediatley get swapped down or vice versa.

  • @Xenuen
    @Xenuen 6 місяців тому +6

    Tekken 8, Killer instinct, smash bros ultimate, SC3, DoA5 last round, MvC2, Rival schools, Project Justice and Bashido blade.

  • @dragonkamran
    @dragonkamran 8 місяців тому +97

    I dunno why he got surprised to hear MK2. It's the Tekken 3 or SF2 of MK.

    • @holden6104
      @holden6104 7 місяців тому +3

      But where's Tekken 3?

    • @shaynehughes6645
      @shaynehughes6645 7 місяців тому +4

      Oh no it ain't, MK1 is the classic and UMK3 is the good one. 2 and base 3 are perfectly forgettable.

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 7 місяців тому +1

      @@shaynehughes6645 I think MKII gets remembered because it really was an enormous step up for the time. Not only did it look way better and have more moves, levels, and characters in general, but it introduced Kitana, Mileena, and Shao Kahn, which was pretty huge. Expanded the lore a decent bit compared to the first one. I'd agree UMKIII is better in basically every way, but MKII was pretty amazing when it first came out.

    • @randyroo2
      @randyroo2 7 місяців тому +3

      Got to be 3 for MK. Fatalities, pit fatalities,, animality, babality, friendship, and if you're playing ultimate or trilogy brutalities

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 7 місяців тому

      @@randyroo2 just to point out, MKII was the one that introduced friendships and babalities. It also had arena fatalities, although MK1 still started that with the spike pit.

  • @Comrade-Broski
    @Comrade-Broski 8 місяців тому +52

    Street Fighter EX or Bloody Roar not being there hurt me a bit. Also no Virtua Fighter, damn shame.

    • @KaosuAiden
      @KaosuAiden 8 місяців тому

      Truuuuueeeee

    • @jaykay3512
      @jaykay3512 8 місяців тому +5

      Oh true EX2 at arcades was the experience for sure.

    • @user-wc3gi8zp7o
      @user-wc3gi8zp7o 8 місяців тому +7

      I spent more hours of my life playing Virtua Fighter 4 on the PS2 than any other fighting game

    • @philgamer9499
      @philgamer9499 7 місяців тому

      their trash tier that's why

    • @MEGASTRIX
      @MEGASTRIX 7 місяців тому +3

      Bloody roar 2 was so goated. It was like the tekken 5 of the series where they stuck to the formula mostly after it.

  • @adamkeasey655
    @adamkeasey655 7 місяців тому +2

    This should be a series. Anytime you go to one of these events, hit people up like this. This gives time for more modern games to establish their legacy, more patches and DLCs, more opinions, and flat out for more games to fit on there!

  • @OnlyBadSalmon
    @OnlyBadSalmon 8 місяців тому +34

    J wong with the realest take to open the video

  • @PazuChill
    @PazuChill 8 місяців тому +106

    DOA2-5 are still criminally slept on; you hate to see it. People don't know about how good they are.

    • @Amayziiin
      @Amayziiin 8 місяців тому +15

      Brooooo!!! I was looking for this comment. Thank you! I thought maybe I was crazy. That was my JAM! Me and my buddy used to have some heated tag matches on that bad boy.

    • @fivefive9514
      @fivefive9514 8 місяців тому

      they know. they just discriminate because DOA series has a female protagonist and female dominant roster. fragile male egos feel threatened by DOA series thats why they undermined DOA6's reception and underated it and singled it out for greed when capcom and NRS and others are not innocent. like EVO Mr Wizard and his "core values" , DOA haters are sexist and misogynistic pigs, and shame on Koei Tecmo catering to that with their Xtreme series. though on the bright side, DOA5 and DOA6 are still played online daily on PS4/PS5. ua-cam.com/video/NK3KmbZbAA8/v-deo.html

    • @xOmniCloudx
      @xOmniCloudx 8 місяців тому +5

      DOA2, 3 and 5 are great. DOA4 is trash.

    • @find2hard
      @find2hard 7 місяців тому +19

      Legit great fighting games! The bouncy physics is just sugar on top.

    • @BladeReynolds
      @BladeReynolds 7 місяців тому +8

      DOA2 Ultimate on the Xbox was just wow!

  • @ThEmEsSiAh187-CFGeorge
    @ThEmEsSiAh187-CFGeorge 5 місяців тому +3

    I had fun watching this. Awesome video! 👌🏾😂

  • @lifts586
    @lifts586 7 місяців тому +75

    Not a single SF2 game on the list? What?!?!??!?!? Super Turbo is still played to this day in tournaments.

    • @ArpeggioPegasus
      @ArpeggioPegasus 7 місяців тому +1

      Old game.

    • @theycallmejpj
      @theycallmejpj 7 місяців тому +14

      Look at the age of people who were being asked

    • @lifts586
      @lifts586 7 місяців тому +12

      @@ArpeggioPegasus so is MK2, Mark of the Wolves, KOF 97, 3rd Strike, Breakers Revenge and MvC2. Super Turbo came out in 94. MK2 was 93. It surprising no SF2 game is in the list at all. If no games from the 90s made this list I would understand. That was not the case though. So it's odd that those games from the 90s made this list but not any SF2 game.

    • @lifts586
      @lifts586 7 місяців тому +2

      @@theycallmejpj explain MK2, Mark of the Wolves, KOF 97, 3rd Strike, Breakers Revenge and MvC2 making this list but not Super Turbo. All of those games are 90s games.

    • @balintkristof8442
      @balintkristof8442 7 місяців тому +2

      It's a classic, it's great, but it's a broken piece of shit.

  • @teamcolbourne8593
    @teamcolbourne8593 7 місяців тому +31

    Bloody Roar series didn’t even get mentioned 😢

    • @Vijaymhawar
      @Vijaymhawar 2 місяці тому

      The most underrated series

  • @frankfly1368
    @frankfly1368 3 місяці тому +1

    No Killer Instinct? Bruh that was my jam and definitely paved the way with all the combos and combo breakers.
    Clay Fighters was pretty unique as well

  • @Grim0666
    @Grim0666 8 місяців тому +112

    My vote for the GOAT is Killer Instinct 2013. I love it because you constantly are using your brain even on defense when in a combo for the combo breaker meta. Instinct mode was also fun and unique per character. There is basically 0 down time in a match and I love it for that.

    • @cymtastique
      @cymtastique 8 місяців тому +6

      I second your vote.

    • @caan_sensei4853
      @caan_sensei4853 8 місяців тому +11

      Yeah KI has everything, fun, skill, design, mechanics, music… the ultimate FGC GOAT!

    • @majoraxx2427
      @majoraxx2427 8 місяців тому +1

      Incredible game

    • @Grim0666
      @Grim0666 8 місяців тому +3

      @@caan_sensei4853 I can't believe I forgot to mention the music, good lord the music is godlike! But no other game gives me the meta satisfaction of the counter breaker reads (and shadow counters) , GGST was the closet modern game with RC and Bursts but it's just not the same, the announcer to so hype too!

    • @ivaerz4977
      @ivaerz4977 8 місяців тому

      Can any one explain if killer Instinct is so great why it disappeared and if MK is so bad why its always the best selling fighting game?

  • @EricSamaNYC
    @EricSamaNYC 8 місяців тому +76

    Respect to the guy that said Street Fighter x Tekken, I wanted that game to work so badly but damn it dropped the ball 😭😭😭😭

    • @Kool212
      @Kool212 8 місяців тому +4

      If there was a version without the gems I would agree,

  • @brawss
    @brawss 6 місяців тому +33

    13:01 bro stopped snoop dogg at the fighting tournaments

  • @Mindcry7181
    @Mindcry7181 8 місяців тому +31

    BRUH no one said BLAZBLUE but blazblue tag!? WTF

  • @downrightfiercerare1565
    @downrightfiercerare1565 8 місяців тому +32

    Garou being trash tier is insulting

  • @emmanuelbartolocha9920
    @emmanuelbartolocha9920 7 місяців тому +3

    Terry Bogard literally just passed at 3:35

  • @LogicIsSound
    @LogicIsSound 7 місяців тому +8

    The golden era of fighting games was really CVS2 and MVC2 out at the same time. Nothing will ever compare...

    • @Schmebez
      @Schmebez Місяць тому

      Foreal only the goats remember

  • @deadfr0g
    @deadfr0g 8 місяців тому +9

    Thank you for your commitment to sound methodology in research. These results are indisputable, and you are a true scholar.

  • @jiggilowjow
    @jiggilowjow Місяць тому

    hey this one of the best funnest coolest tier list iveseen.. they didnt get it right but home boy kept it fun and fair and asked every one why they chose..keep up this content my boy you fittin to get paid!!!

  • @madakage
    @madakage 8 місяців тому +159

    melty blood music but no melty blood on tier list

    • @sefflikejeff1917
      @sefflikejeff1917 8 місяців тому +11

      Melty Blood OST > Melty Blood (video game)

    • @axis8396
      @axis8396 8 місяців тому +28

      MBAACC is definitely one of my favorites, incredibly fun game

    • @AW-ci9yn
      @AW-ci9yn 8 місяців тому +5

      Melty Blood is trash. Doesn't even deserve to be on the list.

    • @xOmniCloudx
      @xOmniCloudx 8 місяців тому +3

      Niche game, nobody cares about it like that

    • @rasha1a
      @rasha1a 8 місяців тому +13

      MBAACC brought in some real gamers to the fgc, it’ll never get the respect it deserves from any modern chump gamers

  • @DarriusWilder7
    @DarriusWilder7 8 місяців тому +182

    Diaphone has legs?

  • @ikillomega
    @ikillomega 3 місяці тому

    This was pretty fun. Well done. I have an affinity for Rival Schools but couldn't bring myself to call it GOAT. Unlike older bangers like Soul Cal, MvC2 and 3rd Strike, it doesn't REALLY have the longevity I think to hold up to today's standards, but I have a special place in my heart for that game.

  • @spectranv
    @spectranv 8 місяців тому +6

    I don't play or watch fighting games but I saw this on Twitter and this is a super cool video. However Diaphone, I need your personal tier list IMMEDIATELY for comparison

  • @thought_engine2795
    @thought_engine2795 8 місяців тому +6

    This is great! I enjoy everyone's reactions, and reasoning. Please do more community stuff! :D

  • @jans1982
    @jans1982 5 місяців тому +4

    We are just having this discussion because of SF2 and MK2

  • @TonyGG01
    @TonyGG01 8 місяців тому +8

    Garou is a masterpiece of fighting games, it looks like they are casual players

  • @domymbd
    @domymbd 7 місяців тому +16

    No Killer Instinct? The 1994 arcade cabinet is the best fighting game ever made to me.

  • @banteibokthongney5937
    @banteibokthongney5937 6 місяців тому +2

    My Goat: Ultra Street Fighter 4 & 6, MK 10&11 and Tekken 7.
    Amazing: Dragon ball Z Budokai 3, MK 9, Marvel vs Capcom 2, Injustice 2, Street Fighter 3rd Strike

  • @ghostlycuddles8116
    @ghostlycuddles8116 8 місяців тому +63

    BBTAG being on the list but not central fiction actually is so upsetting.

    • @zaki1ss
      @zaki1ss 7 місяців тому +6

      yea thats absolutely crazy central fiction is an infinitely better game

    • @Cosmopaladin
      @Cosmopaladin 7 місяців тому

      As true as that is BBTag has a really nice niche. It's a really easy to get into tag team fighter for new players. I got so many people to start playing fighting games in general by playing BBTag with them. Also it has another kind of niche in that there aren't that many modern tag team games that are fun to just pickup, and play with people that are decent at other fighting games, but don't really have a tag team game they are good at. I really like BBTag even though it's got it's issues for sure. @@zaki1ss

    • @steampunk1435
      @steampunk1435 7 місяців тому +2

      I know right. Also nobody showing love for my GOAT GGXrd

  • @kaiji4788
    @kaiji4788 8 місяців тому +18

    Adding crosstag but not centralfiction is a warcrime. Fun video !

    • @toxicspiderman3815
      @toxicspiderman3815 8 місяців тому +1

      I just noticed that omg what is wronf with people

  • @victorvenable587
    @victorvenable587 6 місяців тому +5

    Loved hearing the responses!
    Garou on the bottom?? Dang.
    If I were to pick, KOF 98 UM (97 is awesome, but I think 98 covers all the bases), and even though Alpha 2 is my favorite of the Alphas, Alpha 3 is awesome. I love Third Strike, but Alpha 3's a whole package.
    We all good different tastes and I think that's what makes it cool.

  • @GamingMailbox
    @GamingMailbox 8 місяців тому +25

    Tekken 5, MvC2, Third Strike, KOF 13, Bloody Roar all goats. Surprised there was only one Tekken game

    • @tjjavier
      @tjjavier 8 місяців тому +7

      Now that you mention it, yeah! At least have Tekken 3 on there too!

    • @lolcreloux
      @lolcreloux 6 місяців тому +3

      I was about to say, where the hell is Bloody roar or Rival schools? Also would put Tekken 3 up there as it was a top dog back in the days.

    • @sexpistols2743
      @sexpistols2743 6 місяців тому

      ​@@lolcreloux yep, should've added atleast one bloody roar title

    • @aaroncarr2628
      @aaroncarr2628 5 місяців тому +1

      Bloody Roar yeah!!!

  • @zeywop
    @zeywop 8 місяців тому +5

    good ass vidoe dia, making ppl switch the games was a sick way to keep it fun.
    n damn cant believe no one brought up plus r, virtua fighter 5, skullgirls or melty...

  • @AndreDigitalTranslator
    @AndreDigitalTranslator 24 дні тому

    This video is so cool seeing the bros sharing opinions and everyone is having a good time.

  • @shinjoni
    @shinjoni 8 місяців тому +9

    Bro I stand by KOF15 being godlike, loved this video

  • @zebrasarenothorses
    @zebrasarenothorses 7 місяців тому +14

    Man, why wasn't UMK3 (Arcade) mentioned?
    Very happy MK II was mentioned - MK 1 was revolutionary and the sequel took that to new heights and UMK3 took 2 to even newer heights.
    This was a fun video to watch, thanks for the upload!

    • @nicowoods7350
      @nicowoods7350 4 місяці тому +2

      FACTS. I still play it too this day. MK trilogy too

    • @westjaxarcadePS5
      @westjaxarcadePS5 Місяць тому

      This!! UMK 3 started the combo wave. Scorpions leg kick combo and cyrax will forever be legendary!

  • @jacobcore6278
    @jacobcore6278 5 місяців тому +2

    Surprised melee was that high, dude who put melee in amazing is so smart. Best i couldve hoped for since the fgc lowkey despises us.

  • @jakal911
    @jakal911 7 місяців тому +11

    Only wish I also saw SSF2T and Alpha 3 on this list.

    • @afcapanos
      @afcapanos 4 місяці тому

      Alpha 3 was crazy ❤

  • @Daniel-06-YT
    @Daniel-06-YT 8 місяців тому +11

    This is a trash tier tier list. I'm liking the IRL format, great video!

  • @sabbathjackal
    @sabbathjackal 3 місяці тому +2

    Tekken 5 is top tier.
    Because the boss for the arcade mode would record your inputs and create a perfect counter play to fight you. The longer the fight lasted, the harder it became. You could only win by being better than yourself

  • @jagojuice9133
    @jagojuice9133 7 місяців тому +7

    how has none of them said bloody roar , killer instinct??? hurts my soul

  • @Applebomb8D
    @Applebomb8D 8 місяців тому +5

    I love this video so much man! Always good to be reminded how chill and friendly the fgc community can be

  • @R_Dodoso
    @R_Dodoso 5 днів тому

    I love how he said "best fighting game of all time" and like 90% heard "whats you favorite fighting game"

  • @cyriszx
    @cyriszx 8 місяців тому +20

    11:35 GIVE this man a standing ovation for naming an actual GOAT game , SHAME on those who put it down to Trash tier , none of em have taste .

    • @oldboy1904
      @oldboy1904 7 місяців тому +1

      fuck yeah

    • @EzKay_PX
      @EzKay_PX Місяць тому

      Love how he actually gives a GOOD reason for why he thinks its the best

  • @Thauangg01
    @Thauangg01 8 місяців тому +37

    If this happen in South America, KOF2002 would be the goat for sure

    • @jfry3276
      @jfry3276 7 місяців тому +6

      KOF98 is the GOAT… KOF2K2 is after.

    • @Enemigodelan695
      @Enemigodelan695 7 місяців тому +2

      De hecho México es el país "Kofero".
      Argentina, Paraguay y Uruguay el más popular es Mortal Kombat (Scorpion tomando "Mate" es parte de la cultura de internet argentino)
      Chile Mk y Smash
      Bolivia Tekken
      Brasil Street fighter
      Peru Kof - Tekken
      Colombia - Guilty Gear
      Ecuador - Venezuela = ????

    • @Labotohs
      @Labotohs 7 місяців тому

      True, it is always 98 or 2002 here, but it is also something I’ll never agree with as 02 is basically a great roster (not going into balance) accompanied by some of the worst presentation ever made, with some of the worst looking stages and hud in the series and a weak ost.
      Was pretty happy with seeing 97 being high ranked for most of the video though.

    • @Labotohs
      @Labotohs 7 місяців тому

      @@Enemigodelan695 KoF and the vs series were by far the most popular fighting games in Brazil post sf2 era. You could find MvC and KoF 96~98 in random bars.

    • @SAWTHISRIGHT
      @SAWTHISRIGHT 7 місяців тому +1

      Even in Africa I agree with you on that part a childhood with KOF2002 is incomplete

  • @fuzzypockets
    @fuzzypockets 3 місяці тому

    I‘ve only ever played SF6 and Smash Bros., but this was very entertaining to watch. A fun way to make a tier list

  • @jcramirez77
    @jcramirez77 8 місяців тому +31

    Sf4 not being on the list is wild! lol

  • @kattoro3440
    @kattoro3440 8 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for giving me the most painful experience I have ever enjoyed. Didn't know this emotion existed.

  • @QuestionmarkCosmo
    @QuestionmarkCosmo Місяць тому

    16:45 has to be the most "I dont know what I'm talking about" statement I've ever heard in my life

  • @henryzhang7504
    @henryzhang7504 8 місяців тому +30

    Hey Diaphone, your haircut's pretty fresh!

  • @sle2979
    @sle2979 7 місяців тому +5

    Mortal kombat 2 was the GOAT at A.I cheating

  • @asyetundetermined
    @asyetundetermined 7 місяців тому +12

    No shade meant at all, but this is truly an interesting mix of humans.

  • @imerflores1167
    @imerflores1167 11 днів тому

    That tear list is disrespectful to my ❤ as well. 😂❤️‍🩹

  • @ghostofthesun89
    @ghostofthesun89 7 місяців тому +8

    really fun video. Full of surprises. Everyone has something unique they love or hate! Loved it. Good job, you got this!

  • @retsu3993
    @retsu3993 8 місяців тому +7

    Great video, but damn I wish I was there to add "Tatsunoko vs Capcom" in goated. Like how you got everyone's opinion on why also. It really helps.

  • @griffinsitzman568
    @griffinsitzman568 2 місяці тому

    If I was walking around I would have put Primal Rage on there as a troll. Good luck getting an arcade cabinet!

  • @platinopiano
    @platinopiano 8 місяців тому +4

    this video had me rolling, would love to see more of these

  • @imotje
    @imotje 8 місяців тому +5

    13:00 Snoop Dogg in the FGC? Even sounds like him 🤣

  • @SuperSaiyanRome
    @SuperSaiyanRome 5 місяців тому +20

    Dude that said MVC2 was trash used to get bullied on that game probably 😂

  • @Leciorne
    @Leciorne 8 місяців тому +5

    Goat tier for me would be 3rd Strike, Garou, Samsho 5 Special, Killer Instinct, MK Deception 😈

  • @THATCRZYKING
    @THATCRZYKING 8 місяців тому +6

    No Street Fighter 4 has made me lose some hope i had in humanity

  • @eggfinallap
    @eggfinallap 2 місяці тому

    I'm not a fighter fan but I watched this vid IN FULL for some reason. God bless.

  • @yesbutno3450
    @yesbutno3450 8 місяців тому +7

    Thats the rare SF x Tekken fan you'll see once every 5 years 😂

    • @Zelldic27
      @Zelldic27 8 місяців тому +1

      Justin Wong is aways there too

  • @Dante_Tim
    @Dante_Tim 7 місяців тому +9

    I'm glad that the dude put Mortal Kombat 2 on the list.
    for me this game defines the aesthetics of Mortal Kombat (effects, design, music, sounds),
    all other games in the series are unsuccessful experiments that have lost the face of MK.