Why You Should Play Fighting Games - And How
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2018
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Music:
Heat Haze Shadow - Tekken 7
We Are Finally Cowboys - No More Heroes
Adon Stage - Street Fighter Alpha 2
Charlie Stage - Street Fighter Alpha 2
Strange Sunset - Street Fighter EX3
Cody - Street Fighter V
Battletoads Suite - Killer Instinct
Goodbye Esaka - KOF13
Morrigan - Darkstalkers
Moving On - Street Fighter III Third Strike - Ігри
"combos makes you feel like a main character"
explains why im side character
I’m the joke character
I'm more than the main character because i'm the skilled rival (in some anime the rival is more skilled than the main character with the main character being only able to reach on max the same skill level as the rival that generaly become his friend like akko and diana where diana was always better than akko and ended the series still being better but akko also was able to do things that diana coudn't do but as soon as akko lost her chosen one powers for finishing her task diana became clearly superior to akko but diana became friends with akko (some may say that they are more than friends though) and it's trying to help akko at least know some basic magic like litteraly everyone else)
@@Liliana_the_ghost_cat sounds like something the useless joke rival would say
@@omgdisfunny4852 the reason i called my self the skilked rival it's because more because whoever is my rival at the moment suck because i'm the only one in my family or friend group that's into fighting games in a more serious level
Edit:i accutualy have a static rival and the reason for that it's because he sucks less but he's still just a pathetic button masher
Oh come on guys, combos are not that hard. It's basically playing DDR with your fingers.
Too bad for you I already like fighting games
Dang it
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Me too
Then like them more
I think something that deters a lot of people about fighting games is that all the progress is based on intrinsic reward, you actually get better at the game your character never gets anymore powerful or learns new moves
Or it could be people like me that don't want to spend 40 hours to mavey be OK at the game and then still get curve stomped over and over and over again.
Personally speaking I rather play a game I might have a chance at actual winning this century.
@@chasefox3100 dont worry man, you'll get the hang of it if you put in another mere 160 hours
seriously though, if don't wanna get destroyed every game but still wanna have fun, playing with friends who are just as new as you would be a solution
@@chasefox3100 Getting curbstomped will only happen if you fight people who are way better than you. When I was learning Melty Blood I got my ass beat for like 7 hours straight but the thing is is that everyone I fought was just way better than me. I have to say its very fulfilling since I'm the one doling out ass whoopings now but I don't think the fear of losing should keep you from playin. I often say "Fighting games is just getting fucked until you're the one doing the fucking." And I guess if you don't wanna put time into it to get to the fucking people over part then I can't stop you but I will say, literally do not worry I guarantee you if you keep playing there will come a day when 90% of people will be unable to touch you, and its a great feeling.
@@chasefox3100 thing is you'll spend 40 hours learning about the real world, only to realize there's always someone better, but all that you learned actually carries over into your future with other fighting games.
@@chasefox3100 that's why you work on fundamentals and don't think about it as "I got to play 40 hours to win a match" winning a match isn't really the goal in fighting games... It's getting better, learning. I could get my ass whooped in third strike, but every loss I reflect and learn just a bit more... Eventually I start blocking a certain characters playstyle better, or I land a dope combo, and that's the victory, that's what keeps me going.
This is why win loss ratio records on FGCs are horrible they promote negative mindsets about what personal growth is in a fighting game. Getting gud in any fighting game will usually raise your level in other games (learning how to approach a zoner, or footsies, even stuff like confirming hits)
Few years ago I watched this, now I have over 500 hours in smash, learned street fighter, and am currently learning guilty gear. Thanks man
How’s guilty gear going?
@@nerdydude1465 for me is going nightmares
@@nerdydude1465 I have almost 300 hours in from playing with friends
@@qualityart4004 Were people rude when you fought them in these tournaments?
@@derekmaullo2865 I don't play in tournament, although I'd like to
When he says learn all your characters moves, he means to the point where you don't really have to think in order to do them. This part can take a while, don't be discouraged.
Co Pilots and also: I think there’s an exception in order for a lot of Tekken characters. Their move lists are not meant to be memorized in all their varieties
Øjvind Rasmussen I feel like you’ve never looked at any of the DOA move lists
I know the no hado like I know my no hado. I DoNT...
I can relate. In Blazblue: Cross Tag Battle, I played a match where I preformed an air combo ending in Buzzsaw Blast without even thinking, or being able to stop my hands. That felt great
Robert Clark he probably means in neutral
"You just watched an insanely long video telling you how to play a vide ogame so I think you have at least a little bit of free time."
How dare you.
Lol it was at least entertaining I really thought he edited the footage nicely too
I hate the idea of doing drills and all the memorization.
@@Zephaniah700 Try it though! Its actually fun!
@uniblacksister well as long as you dont get salty, you can make it fun
literally as he said this I read this comment lol
Two years ago, I watched this video on the heels of a decent FighterZ fascination that, due to the circumstances of my work life, I flexed a bit at the very casual level and didn't play for very long because I didn't have the time. Now I've come back to watch it again. I've been out of work for a while, after that very same job landed me in the hospital (more than once) and left me with almost a year of nerve damage, during which time I slowly descended into and slowly crawled back out of being bedridden.
For a time, I couldn't turn on a light switch. I couldn't pick up a drink, lift a remote, couldn't even grab the edge of a blanket and drag it up over my legs with my right hand, not for many months. It's been a long road to recovery, and I'm still not at 100%, but heading into this Christmas season I've bought Tekken 7 on sale and started my first fighting game in quite some time. I haven't even played a match yet, not even against the AI, I've just spent many hours of a few days in training trying to relearn how controllers work. But goddamn, I won't lie; getting to where I could reliably and continuously land the Hunting Hawk combo almost made me cry.
I just wanted to say, I appreciate this now more than ever, and once more this video has helped remind me of why I've come to love fighting games over my life, and keep coming back to them. I'm anxiously awaiting my first online match where I hop in against a California professional Yoshimitsu with 8k hours and a foundation of 300 ms lag easy, it's gonna be fun.
Hey, please tell us what happened at your job so we can learn from it.
I love how special fighting games are. Sure, every other genre of video game is too... but not quite like fighting games.
"Combos make you feel like a main character."
Man, I love being Arthritis from Blazblue
LOL naoto
Once you master him like me, you’ll feel like a God.
Man, I love being snek from Blazblue
Literally every Blazblue fan: Good ol Naoto Kurogane😩
Fighting Games are therapy for those that suffer from being pissed off from team competitive gaming.
League of Legends, Dota 2, Paladins... Uh memories
EXACTLY! I literally feel the exact same way
So accurate it hurts. Motherfuckin' League, man
Damn right, saying this as a 9 year competitive team player after trying Tekken 7 out
@@photoshopedcountryballs5094 any competitive shooter aswell. R6 gets me so heated sometimes...
Every once in a while I come back to this video, and realize it’s quite possibly my favorite video on this platform
Why?
@@Casedilla73 it’s what introduced me to everything I love about fighting games and sent me down a spiral of content searching for the context of all things he mentions. Found a new hobby because of it!
Same thing happened with me
Huh..... I was actually having the same thought earlier. Actually one of my favorite videos on UA-cam and something that revived my love for fighting games I had as a child
Truue
31 year old mom here. Never been much into video games before but my family got me a switch for xmas and this video has convinced me to try some fighting games!
W mother, some games that I will recommend trying out are
1. skullgirls, a great fighting game with great singleplayer content and tutorials
2. Smash bros, not a traditional fighting game but it's very good, beginner friendly and family friendly
There are many REALLY good older fighting games you can play for FREE on Fightcade! My favorites are Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo and Vampire Savior (aka Darkstalkers 3). Both are pretty easy to initially pick up but truly mastering them can take a lifetime. One of the largest benefits of one of these older games is the communities are usually VERY excited to have someone new pick up these games... they realize if new people don't pick them up then eventually they will die out. I've tried a ton of the newer games, but nothing has come close to the experience of the golden age of fighting games so I prefer them... also, unlike new titles where every few years you will have to buy a new game and relearn everything, and every few months now there is a new patch that changes the balance and meta, you don't have to worry about any of that so everything you practice and learn is always useful.
@@Azure9577 , good choices!
Soulcalibur deserves more love, honestly I played it with many people who always had issues with combos etc. and all said that soulcalibur feels very intuitive
"learn all their moves"
*side eyes tekken and their 100+ move list
They're not hard to learn
You don't need to learn them all, you just need to learn the best ones. Can't have good moves without bad ones.
What's an understatement 200+ is the lowest 300 the average
jack fish cap of the century, Hwoarang and Steve have the longest in the game and are both under 200
Tekken is more about matchup and knowing other characters moves so you need to learn like most used moves of 40+ characters and how to counter them with your character. Attacking in Tekken is the easiest part of the game, movement, defending and matchup knowledge are the biggest ones
my fav. fg story is, when i took my ps to my gf moms home - shes going through a though divorce and out of a joke we decided to ask her to play a round of tekken with us... her mom never even held a controller and told us later she only tried it, so she could say she can't do it/ doesn't like it and we stop teasing her - she had so much fun just mashing some matches with us, she even asked to play next day. My gf told me she hasn't heard her laugh like that in months.
fuck this is wholesome
This is beautiful
I am in tears right now
"Fighting game is something so great" Tokido 2017
*cries in James Chen*
This really has got me into fighting games, I have had a passing interest for a while but this video helped me get into them and understand them more. So thank you for making this video.
It's crazy how the way you described Core-A Gaming is exactly the way I also feel about this video, every now and then I just naturally rewatch it because of how damn good it is. There is something more to creating a video than making it understandable, concise and clear. I'm not quite sure what it is, but it's just so fulfilling to watch and rewatch. Maybe it's just the outright passion this video is made with.
I love just spending so many hours with my friends playing fighting games. Whenever we all collectively find a game we love we’ll play it for months on end almost every day
This is the best feeling ever. Me and my friends love Soul Calibur especially, and from there we fell in love with Blazblue, all picking our mains and sparring with each other, helping one another to improve.
Surprised to see you here, love your content as well.
The FGC is my shit
I feel like you're everywhere Nick. And from all of the times I've seen a comment of yours, only one has been related to high school musical 2. And that is not alright.
this. do this!
"If you're playing Ken and you can't shoryuken, you're only using half the character."
I feel personally attacked.
I feel like the absolute most accurate thing about the shotos in Smash is that they're dragon punch machines.
Lmao it’s ok I always mis-input shoryuken
SaoPauloOrBust you just gotta be quick with the input
"Please, do not, for the love of God, use auto combos as a beginner."
Auto combos that were made for beginners: "Am I a joke to you?"
No, seriously. I get what you're saying, but you just contradicted yourself. Auto combos are made for beginners and accessibility.
here's what works for me to do clean DP inputs
imagine you are carving a Z with your stick/analog/pad
Just wanted to come back and say thank you for making this video, I started playing fighting games because of this, and now its one of my favourite things. Got in top 16 for the UK CPT, made a bunch of friends with really strong players, if anyone else sees this video and is considering it, just do it, you wont regret it
Man this is why I want to move out of New Zealand, and go to the UK, just because how big the UK FGC is. Also hitting top 16 in the CPT is huge congrats, I’m just a lowly 1500mr player in sf6, in a small playerbase
This is a masterpiece video all around, but I especially love how perfect your song choices were for the montages. Fighting game music is such an unbelievable blessing
"However, I did like Cammie" dammit Capcom you managed to get all of us with one goddamn woman
Juri is more my type:)
You mean God blessed woman. And I am also into Cammy, Juri, Lucia which is new to me and I am loving her. And yes Chun Li.
@@TheLuconic lucia now comes across as a harley quinn knockoff albeit without clown makeup
Ever see that 90s cartoon ep. Where joker got rich and dumped harley?
She got her revenge posing as a guard
"Welcome to the club":)
@@Mr3DLC lol. I know all them jokes and teases towards Lucia. I don’t care. I love her, that’s all she needs. Plus leaving the joker was the biggest best choice she has ever made. Hehehe.
@@TheLuconic true
Fighting games feel lonely without a local scene. Real lonely.
Tell me about it... i live in a small city with no local scene and i cant get my friends to play fighintg games, all they wanna play is mobas and fps...
@@mauricioadv451 I play by myself and I live in one of the biggest markets for fighting games and that's California.
Not for me. my Girlfriend, Best friend and her two closest friends all play together so I suspect thats why.
You could get some buddies and host a small tournament. Maybe that'll help your local scene. You gotta start somewhere.
@@mauricioadv451 same. all my friends just keep on playing mobas
Dude, I really appreciate you making this video! I’ve been playing fighting games, like Mortal Kombat since I was a little kid but, I never really wanted to keep on trying them because I always thought I sucked.
This video really helped get my confidence back into playing ANY type of fighting game for the fun of it.
Watching Lil Majin play King when you’re just getting into Tekken is a sight to behold. Seeing him do multithrows and being like omg wow so easy this character is busted, then going and looking at the inputs for those throws, gives me so much respect for someone who can do that under all that pressure.
Oh damn, I'm in this video...never noticed that before.
That was a fun combo video to work on :D
TrueUnderDawgGaming hey one of my favorite youtubers commented on another one of my favorite youtubers videos that’s pretty cool 😎
Timestamp??
Exactly, timestamp
trampstamp
Trapstamp
(first 30 seconds) nice Toonami ad.
Hi
@@youngnigar525 hello there
@Dariel Ruben nope. No one cares.
It was epic, along with Heat Haze shadow music
lol
I know this video was made a WHIIILE ago, but as someone who’s always been interested in fighting games but could never figure out how to get better, you just helped me man. This opened up a new perspective for me when it comes to everything fighting games. So, as a late viewer 2 years later, I say thank you 🙏 😆
This video helped get me into FGs roughly 2 years ago! I've been placing in +R and I just got my first custom hitbox and a stick! Thanks Marcus!!
What game?
@@unknownchristian341 I think he means Guilty Gear XX Accent core plus R
That's cool asf bro congrats
Marcus:
"Fighting games are anime.
The Fast series is anime.
Tall Girl is anime.
I. Am. Anime."
Not yet
*Every thing is being consumed by weebs*
?? Wtf- when did he ever say that Tall Girl was an anime???
Anime is Anime.
Vtuber marcus when
Shoutout to Core-A Gaming. That channel is so high quality it’s almost unbelievable.
I agree, Ive watched all their videos more than once. So entertaining
@@guy543215 Their videos are so great I always feel like I'm learning something new. If you rewatch them after you level up a bit, you see the same videos in a new light, which is what makes them so awesome
nah he sucks
They bad
For sure
Loved this video. I’m just getting into fighting games, and you really helped me to figure a lot of stuff about this genre. Keep it up, man.
"If SF is classical music, then Smash is jazz" Thank you for this analogy. I'll be using this often.
Use a shower instead ! :D
TsunaTsurugi EEEEEEE
I’d say smash is more like synth-pop.
smash is more like pop. tekken is the jazz if anything. that game has odd rhythms and takes years to learn
I still suck at that game.
He stole it from the documentary
Core A Gaming is one of the most underrated channels out there
Both of these channels are!
2 years later and this is still my favorite video you've ever done. This video got me into fighting games. Now I'm playing Tekken 7 as a Kunitmitsu main and I've been having a blast playing against my friends and getting better over time. :)
I am excited for king of fighters new upcoming game
@@deepeshbajpai4423 YO! Me too!!!
This, Maximilian Dood and Core A gaming videos got me into fighting games again after almost a decade. Thanks Marcus!
"You start to recognize that one player that plays the character you thought only you played", that hit hard as a R.O.B. main seeing wadi play for the first time
Same except i play icies in Ultimate and Big D is the biggest rep we have. Yeah sure there's dynax and wishes and some others but none of them play like Big D, he's just too solid of a player.
That was me with Cosmos in sm4sh. I hadn't seen a person play Corrin like he did. I don't think missed a single match he was in during that games competetive lifetime.
@@themasterblaze7563 it was lui$ playing Dr.Mario, Snapback playing Pit and Toast playing Young Link
I picked Lil Mac cause I thought he was cool. It's my first smash game.
I regret nothing.
@Teutowolf 🤔 with or without soap? Thatd be a deal breaker.
Pro tip: spam smash attacks with lil mac. The hyper armor properties will beat almost anything and low tier players since they dont understand neutral, spacing or punishing will just become so tilted that they practically SD. Works online like a charm lmao.
Little Mac the best character in Smash 4
The same happened to me when i played with Sonic
OOOOOH BOY my friends were trying to kill me after some battles
Me Too brother
This might be amongst my favourite videos on UA-cam, I rewatch this everytime I come back to wanting to play tekken 7, now with tekken 8 coming out, I’m excited again
Why I watch fighting games:
The reason is Smug. When he gets wiggity washed, his reactions are priceless.
Melee as a "fighting game" changed my life. Not only is there the intensity of insane tech skill and 1v1s, but the community as a whole is so satisfying to be around and makes you feel a part of it. Fighting games really are so great, whether you're a Street Fighter guy, a Tekken guy, they're all great.
@@PuddlesinZalem
Well technically it's a fighting platformer.
Matthew Viq same dude!! Okay so who do you main? Who is your favorite player? And what’s your favorite set?? Nice to talk to another melee player!
@@tooglianprimus15 For me, I main Falco and secondary Fox. For me they're the most fun characters to play at a competitive level due to their immensely high skill ceilings and their approaches to both punish/neutral game. Favourite player has to be PPMD for me, followed by Mango. They're among the best Falco players to ever play Melee! Favourite set always changes per major/super major due to there always being a possibility or chance for someone to completely upset the bracket, but if we're looking at the game as a whole I think the Armada/HBox GF at EVO 2016 has to take it. Not a huge HBox fan myself but you can tell just by looking at clips that it really was the opening to a new era of Melee.
I hope you it didn't change you enough to not take showers. hygiene is important
the smash scene is so underrated, happy to see you give it justice here. Long Live Melee!
I love how MK11 has an incredibly complex and informative tutorial. I’m pretty experienced, and even I learned some new things. It’s also great for newcomers.
100% this! I'm still very new to fighting games and I felt so comfortable learning the mechanics of mk11 because they didnt feel so archaic like some other games like Tekken 7 (still love that game but damn that learning curve is real...). Plus if there was something about mk11 that I wasn't familiar with the game gave me an in-depth explanation of it and let me train with it. And on top of that, despite the fact that it has the potential to poor lots of salt because of the fatalities, I feel less frustrated with losing because it feels easier to pick up where i went wrong and how to fix it or understand the playstyles of certain characters and the kinds of people who play them. I just cant get enough of mk11, Netherrealm killed it with this game
Another game with a very detailed tutorial is UNIST, literally explained almost every game mechanic from beginner to some of the most complicated stuff in the game. I think more FGC titles need to help bridge the gap with better tutorials to ensure that newcomers don't feel so intimidated by everything that they have to learn.
Not to mention confusing and time consuming if you’re bad at timing
LC Kaboom i learnd alot with scorpine the game is really complexed but the more i do things the more i find things out im also learning things with liu kang
Grognak the Destroyer Attorney at law Esquire MD buddy you just need to look at frames per move and see when your oppent recovers not really that hard once you see it ive struggled for 5 10 min at most till i relized some combos have to be done fast and insyanc and some combos have to be done with well timed perceion but you need to know how your charcter is going to move in the game or youll never be able to do the kombos or speacel moves
One of your best videos man, I want more people to get into fighting games they’re so god damn fun
Marcus, you have a channel that I really like. I have subscribed to you and seen a lot of your videos, and loved a lot of them. And this is still my favorite of your videos. I have seen it many times, and each time I love it. Thank you for making such great content!
Marcus: "not their other team mates, not luck, it's all on them"
Me: *turns on smash, picks hero*
BlazingPenguin 52 Gets a nine with Game and Watch
Gets a stitch face Peach
Gets a Misfire with Luigi
Gets a bob-omb from peach
actually hits something with King Dededes jet hammer
"In league of legends, you can play to the best of your ability but will still lose if your teammates are brain dead."
Too true.
So true that no one tried to argue with u in the comment section 🤣🤣
I mean its part of the appeal
The problem is most league players havent accepted that and start to flame and rage when things dont go their way
Also the game is way too snowbally it is so easy to throw a game and so hard to carry that if one of your teammates doesnt know how to play or dc’s u are almost guaranteed to lose
I won plenty of games 4v5 or even some 3v5 but those are exceptions mostly also caused by the opponents throwing or just being bad at the game
@@dj_koen1265 sounds like you're in a toxic relationship with league
Bro i can't remember the last time I've seen such an accurate UA-cam video like this.
@@dj_koen1265 League being a team based game is a huge part of its appeal. Players will shift their faults and mistakes onto others to free themselves of feeling inadequate. Players create a lie in their head to protect their ego and tell themselves they are Pro and are being dragged down by the system and shit players. So they keep playing without working on themselves and essentially become addicted to gambling.
Now most players don't want to work on themselves/fundamentals so a lot of them just fall into the gambling category. In fighting games you have to work on yourself and do "boring Drills, practice combos/matchups" just to PLAY the game. Players just want to turn off their brain and press buttons and have fun. Nothing wrong with that but fighting games just can't really provide that unless the roster/visuals really make the player invest in the game while at the same time create a environment where you fight players in the same level. That's why fighting games won't reach a wide audience. even the population of league that work on themselves competitively is a small percent. Most players playing ranked league are gambling every time they play.
This Video…
This is the video that got me to pick up Street Fighter.
I remember back in 2020 (I think) I searched up a guide on how to play Chun-Li in SFV. I looked at the combos and thought to myself: “I can’t do that.” Back in the day I was trying to play Smash competitively. Fast-forward to early December 2021 and I happened to stumble upon this video. It was a bit of an eye-opener for me in terms of fighting games other than Smash. On Christmas Day I played SFV for the first time and I haven’t been able to put it down for more than 2 weeks. There were days where I’d wake up or go to bed excited for the next time I’d get to play it. Funnily enough SF6 was announced yesterday so I picked a good time to get into the series. I’m also looking to get into Tekken as well (if the definitive edition wasn’t so damn expensive) and considering dropping Smash competitively.
This video is awesome. Hopefully more people will watch this.
Thx for including the music in the description
I've been big into fighting games my whole life, and for as long as I can remember I've been trying to get my friends into the genre all throughout that same amount of time. After years upon years of them not understanding the appeal of a game where I just beat the crap out of them, they dropped the controller, said fighting games weren't for them and they had been reluctant to play them ever since. I've tried for years to get them to understand the appeal of these games and had never really understood how. Until January 2019, where I discovered this video. Where you explained exactly what I've wanted to share for years in one convenient package. And through sharing this video and Core-A Gaming's videos, my friends have grown to love the genre as much as I do. For that, I am thankful that you took the time out of your life to make this video that let me have fun playing my favorite games with my friends. Thank you.
Why would you beat the crap out of them if you're trying to teach them???
Excellent story
Try not using the game to show off next time. This is the biggest problem on the fgc, people saying "more people should play" and then beating the shit out of new players as they're playing against pros
@@DrapoelWons Yeah, I've learned from my mistakes thanks to exposing people to why these games are cool and them actually developing an understanding of them, instead of just whaling on them and thinking that fighting games aren't for them.
@@b39_ i used to show off as well, but I ended up alone all the time, so now I play on the level of the person I'm fighting against. This makes them stick to the game, but there's the downside that sometimes people get so good that I'm the one who ends up being beaten over and over again. Most people don't know how to adapt to noobs
One huge reason why I mostly play fighting games now is the lack of time. When you grow up and have to devote a lot of time to life , it's really hard to play open-world games that usually require a lot of time. I can't really play an RPG or an open-world game for like 20 minutes in a day and really make any progress there, but I can do a good amount of matches in the same amount of time in a fighting game.
Absolutely! Fighting games are about as casual as I can get when gaming...especially since we now have a 1 year old to tend to. My usual gaming window starts at like 10pm to about close to midnight for weekdays, and on the weekends, I try to go later, but am usually too tired to, LOL.
Doesn’t it take time to learn a character tho?
@@khanman9146
depends on what you're learning it for. I don't play online, nor I do play competitively, I just learn pick up the basics so I can actually have fun with it. I don't have time for all the in depth crap for a game. Besides, aside from things I need to do at home as a father, most of my evenings during the weekdays, as well as mornings on the weekends are devoted to training...stuff I'd much rather learn, because y'know...I like real world fighting.
So true
@@khanman9146 you can space out learning more than other games.
I can learn a new combo in about an hour max, or a tech skill, or just drill things. Its kind of like working out where any time investment can be beneficial to overall growth.
Meanwhile, learning a raid boss in an mmo can take literally a whole weekend, and you cant really do much individually.
The reason I like fighting games is that how rewarding the experience is. The sense of accomplishment after learning a new combo or wining a match alone make fighting games worth it.
Thanks you actually did inspire I’m still not good but I’m a couple weeks into street fighter 5 and I have you to thank for all the rage and satisfaction I will feel thank you.
Sometimes I have to come back to this video to remind me that I'm still learning and that Marcus and others went through the same thing I'm going through.
Yeah.
@Shin Shaman oh no! A anime fan spreading his opinion time to talk shit about him!
Low Tier God didn't. And he's making more money than us doing it. Damn him.
Fun fact Gametrailers is now Easy Allies and they still do Retrospectives!
I was already a huge fighting gamer fan, but now I feel more inspired and motivated to actually get good at the games I play... My friends and I REALLY like retro fighting games and we're hoping to start up a tournament scene around the city specifically for these older fighters
Hey Marcus. Thank you for making this video so damn much. It came along to me a few years ago alongside some Core-A videos and really sparked a love for these games in me, particularly Guilty Gear Xrd, and more recently -Strive-. This is one of my go-to videos to share with friends who ask me why I love and play these games. I loved your content before I saw this and even more after and over the years. Keep up the good work.
Adding on to this video, if you're ever confused by a fighting-game term, don't be afraid to look it up. Even if you don't fully understand what you're looking at, I gurantee there will be a moment later on where you'll actually be able to apply those concepts.
Learning the terminology also simply helps communicate, its a huge issue I've noticed with the FGC and the Smash community, Comp Melee growing up disconnected from the FGC has lead to a lot of similar concepts in Smash getting very different terminology from what the greater FGC uses, and I think that is part of what makes it harder for them to mesh
Under Night In Birth is an really good fighting game and really hope more people will get into it, coming from someone who didn't like fighting games.
That's the game I'm trying to learn as my first. I'm trying to learn either Orie or Eltnum. Would you mind telling me who's more beginner friendly?
@@gentlechaos8564 Gordeau, Hyde and Akatsuki are great for beginners.
@@brandonontama2415 I like Akatsuki, so I guess I'll start practicing with him. Thank you so much for replying!
Brandon Ontama I want it but it’s like $50 on psn 😭
@@gentlechaos8564 What do you play on? I would like to add you to see if we can play sometime!
i come back to watch this every month. thank u for your video, the main reason why i will never give up and keep on my training
Just found this video and even tho I’m just starting to get into Fighting Games, it definitely helped define what I should be doing in terms of getting started. Great video
Good luck learning all the moves of a character in Tekken
"Claudio"
The Lorax kappa
Most of the characters share similar moves and most of them are really situational. Once you know you're pokes, punishers, and launchers you're good.
I really enjoyed this video! I will say that more could have been said about movement in 3D games. They add a whole other layer to the game.
@@cowlord120 I don't think the point was to add layers to the game, but to take the first step. If your first introduction to a 3D fighter is learning to wave dash or korean back dash, you probably are going to find it frustrating. Plus, at the level of a beginner, you wouldn't even understand how to apply it. Learning tech without understanding neutral is unfortunately somewhat meaningless.
Friendly reminder to play more guilty gear and Skullgirls
Jack-Onee-san you're doing the lords work.
And Undernight
Basically any Arc Sys game
And dark-stalkers
I own both.
I first saw this video in high school, a few months after it was posted, and it awakened me. I haven’t stopped playing fighting games or watching tournaments since. Thank you Marcus.
Always coming back to this masterpiece of a video !
21:22 "If Street Fighter is classical music, Smash is jazz."
Couldn't have said better.
"If street fighter is classical music then smash is jazz"
Wow. Just wow
But it's TRUE and mk11 is mainstream hiphop .
@@auraleaks9627 lmao! The spammers and trolls are mainstream...the people who play well and don't troll are the underground hip-hop and conscious rappers.
And blazblue is 20th century serialist contemporary classical music
Smash is more mainstream then MK
@@KingofChicago17 it depends of which game tho
absolute banger of a video. We need Marcus to make more videos like this
It happened to me after watching your video, I am SUPER STOKED to play fighting games!
Thanks man, this video is so helpful and very interesting.
"I played Melee competitively until it hurt my fingers" loool
Now he play with items!
You know, I bought a copy of Street Fighter 5 with my PS4 a few months back, touched it once, immediately got intimidated and haven't touched it since. Now I'm currently playing online. And losing, but still playing. Thanks Cosmonaut.
Bryce Bitetti Effort matters more than result. 👍
Don't be discouraged pal. It happens to everyone, trust me. Stick with it and you will certainly improve.
It's the easier street fighter to date, so getting into it is a lot easier than previous entries
Losing is the first step to winning
There you go! Keep at it.
This video is so amazing to watch and enjoy and great editing man :]
I've never been big into fighting games, but I really enjoyed Tekken Tag. These games were always the most fun when playing against friends
By the way, the “smash” genre is typically called platform fighters, since they revolve around movement with vertically placed platforms, knocking opponents off a central main platform. Great analysis though!
@Awawawa CM Rivals of the Aether, Slap City, PM, Brawlhalla
@@MrSchnitzel19 isn’t PM just a a mod?
@@Snowballsage PM (or P+, the one that the ppl play now) is a mod for Smash Brawl, which is like the complete opposite of Smash Melee in terms of speed and how it plays
Some dudes who didn't like Brawl and wanted it to have Melee mechanics made PM, which adds the mechanics and balances all the characters
@@Snowballsage it is a mod but it's so different gameplay wise from brawl it's almost it's own game at this point.
@Awawawa CM Brawlhalla is quite nasty, I invite you to watch any clip compilation and it's crazy the realm of possibilities that game has, it's a lot different than Smash and has a quite big and growing competitive scene
You’re possibly one of the best examples of a good content creator out there: you make videos with passion behind them, and you’re not afraid to state your opinion. I DETEST some of the opinions you hold on certain topics. But I still respect you, because you do your best to be fair and clear-headed. You have my Seal of approval, for whatever it’s worth
I think you're dead wrong when you said begginers should pick a character because they're easy even when they know thats not the character they're gonna main in the future. Even with characters that work only based on fundamentals of that game, a new player is still very likely to form habits that may not work with they're future main. Its best to learn the game from the perspective of your character. A good example of this is ryu, even tho hes a great "fundamental" character, you won't get used to charge inputs or grappling mixups by learning the game with him
You mentioned the guy who plays SF with just his mouth. There is a guy who played at Evo 2013 who was blind and get pretty far up. It was super amazing to watch.
I know who ure talking about. He is pretty good. I bet he could kick my ass in a match. I only have about a 30 percent win rate
mind giving his name? i know about brolylegs (the guy who plays with just his mouth), but i'd love to know more about this blind player
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@jon snow I really doubt that, at the professional level of any sport there are going to be people that want to win no matter what, but definitely in the fgc there's not going to be a bunch of people willing to let their money be wasted because they don't want to be remembered for beating someone who decided to play despite knowing they were at a disadvantage. Note that LTG often loses to Brolylegs and if you're telling me he's throwing because he doesn't want to feel bad then idk what to say.
Or how about Initial T?
Not really handicapped, but he won a Guilty Gear tournament with a goddamn steering wheel.
I may suck at every fighting game i've ever touched, but that doesn't keep me from playing them. I will continue to play fighting games for a long time, no matter how good or bad I am.
Same here, I mean, I get the basics and that's it, but even though I know I'll never be on a pro level or something like that, I just love playing fighting games
bad*
Zenderman 12 Preach, brother!
Good or bad, they're still fun. Getting better though? That's a rabbit hole of knowledge I've jumped into. Ton of fun meeting others with the same drive & willing to help you out. I'm sucked into the competitive scene.
You got the right mindset that alonr made you into a winner.
Just got the video recommended to me and I remembered how this is what made me start playing fighting games back when I watched it shortly after you posted it. Picked up Brawlhalla and am having an absolute blast since then. Thank you :)
Don’t know if you are still checking comments at this point, but I’d like to say this video got me into fighting games specifically sfv. I’m currently a gold dhalsim player which took me almost a year to get to from a complete rookie level. I’ve really delved into it and this video was the spark. Thanks.
What happened to me is that I gained an emotional attachment to a certain character, not because I liked the character but because of a certain memory associated with it.
For example: this one time, I was at a sleepover at a friends house (I was in like 4th or 5th grade) and I was having a really bad week. They’re were 4 of us and we decided to play a little Brawl. I’d never played Brawl before because I was kind of the poor kid at my school who didn’t have enough money for a Wii so I was the biggest noob. I got my ass kicked like 20 times, always with a different character.
At one point my friend’s mom came in to tell us that this was the last game because we had to go to sleep. I wasn’t in the mood to actually think out a character so I just pressed “random”, and got Pokemon Trainer. I was never really that into Pokemon and since I just picked the characters that looked cool to me I never picked him. When the game started I just started pressing random buttons, like not even playing much attention to the screen and before I knew it, I won. Nobody could believe it (least of all me) and I got bragging rights for the rest of the night. I still remember the screen showing Red petting Ivysaur with the word “WINNER” all in bright colors in the bottom. I never actually got good with Pokemon Trainer because I never played Brawl again but that guy will always have a special place in my heart.
Good news is he's back in Ultimate, so if you've got a Switch, you can reconnect with him!
Somedays we just need a victory, eh? Nice story man, thanks for sharing
smash isnt a fighting game
@@Bingobongosdassaa ahh nice bait dumbass
pussy
You talk about fighting games being like anime but personally I only got the appeal after I got into old kung fu movies
Makes sense.
@NarcissBlue true, but the influence initially worked the otherway around on that one. Street Fighter 2 took a lot from Master of the Flying Guillotine
You need to watch Thunderbolt Fantasy, the hybrid of anime and wuxia. With puppets, but that's not important.
SNK and Capcom fighters base characters and move sets off of real people and real fighting styles.
@@nomukun1138
I was listening to a podcast that gave high praise to Thunderbolt Fantasy as well. I really do need to see it.
I come back to this video all of the time. It’s my first and favorite video that Marcus has made
Watching this video got me back into injustice. Couldn't agree more, feeling my fingers get faster and my brain get smarter while I make up combos
Fighting games are a godsend. When is Framedata gonna be a class at school?
Oh god that would be something else. All for it though lol
Then they gonna teach us how to use all characters lol
I used to call combo heavy fighting games "guitar hero fighters" because there were to many button presses per combo!
When you get better you don't think about what button you are pressing anymore, you "press the move", not the button. (if that makes sense)
klafsen I have noticed that as well. I was so confused with the moves in the beginning but once I studied and practiced a bit it becomes more like solving a math problem. Attack the situation with a given appropriate means, rather than think about how the problem works.
@@DisDatK9
Yes. Well done
Dude I just wanna say thank you for this video, after watching it for the first time, I bought Mortal Kombat X and started watching more tournaments. I ended up becoming pretty good at Scorpion and I finally became confident in my ability at fighting games. Thanks man
Thank you for this video. I myself is starting to get into fighting games. Just started playing injustice 1 on my old ps3.
*I'm in Amateur Boxing*
Its hard to do air combos in this game.
Any tips?
First of all: work on your launcher. You must have a mean hook to put the adversary 15 feet up on the air... you must work it.
Second of all: don't skip leg day on your workout, or you won't be able to jump at the height you're launching your opponent.
Third: don't forget to see tutorials on how to do projectiles trough your hands, and practice. You can set, as your target, to light your oven with your meter, for example.
Fourth: you must coordinate your launch and your jumping to connect the first hit in the combo, and keep going from that.
Please, post a video showing the results of that. Now go hit the gym.
Make sure to get enough meter to finish the combo fully.
@@hido... YES! Great point there... always save your meter for the finishing moments of your air combo...
git gud
Dont forget to do sweaps with your hand like balrog
To anyone here who is still scared to get bodied in a fighting game, just know that EVERYONE has a loss in a fighting game and I mean EVERYONE i bet even some of the pros have more losses than wins. And one day you’re gonna keep losing until suddenly, it clicks and something awakens and all your practice will just pay off and you’ll start getting more and more wins. In my opinion someones is never “good” at a fighting game you can only get better and better
This. The best way to put it into words. It sucks to lose, but that' how you learn in a fighting game
yea! people just need to “get better” its as simple as that
Some ppl get good over time, for some it just clicks, tbh u just gotta keep playing
The number one reason most people dont play fighting games is cause of online matches and cant accept losing a match and are even afraid to lose so they dont play online at all. ANd then there are those who try for the first time in their life and goes online and suddenly gets a ass whopping from hell so hard that they didnt know what hit them and decided the game is not for me ill go play a slow MMO. So yes everyone needs to accept losing and not shame yourself from losing. Everyone starts from losing especially fighting games.
@@unixjpn It's about setting expectations. The game needs to teach a player that you can't win on day one. They need to introduce players to the journey and set expectations. People get mad because they expect to be able to win. When they get blown up they either believe the game is broken or the opponent cheated in some way. The scrublord's prayer from Core A Gaming comes in handy here as you know what they will be thinking. When a game finally gets that right and teaches people that the fun in fighting games is the journey, that's when fighting games will explode and the game that does that will be massively popular.
Bruh I just saw Omar Rodriguez Lopez and you're now my favorite UA-camr ever. 🙏🏼
I find myself coming back to this video again and again, I think its because this video is what really gave me the motivation to get into fighting games.
Mortal Kombat 11 and Smash ultimate are my games. Fighting games really make you feel like you're in the tournament Arc lol
MK11 is reeeeeally combo-heavy though. any advanced move requires a somewhat convoluted input and it's kinda hard to get into
I just got mk11 and it's my first mk game and like it a lot. I bought the game after seeing kotal doing cool shit and then learning his cool shit and then playing online. The tutorial help out a lot. It taught me 50/50s. I think once I learn the match ups, I can win more.
@@toesnub9676 I just got mk11 and after playing online a lot, I would say it's block heavy. Learning a character's weakness makes a big difference in a match. I would say knowing how to punish is better than combos. Also in mk11, after u do 5 hits or so, ure damage becomes next to nothing with scaling. Big combos can do 40 percent usually but a couple good punishes does the same. Learning how to block and learning the match ups helps the most i think.
@@magicmanscott40k Mortal Kombat 11 is much more focused on footsies and punishes compared to Mortal Kombat 10 or 9 (which were both extremely combo/vortex/50/50s heavy). Mortal Kombat 11 limited the number of characters that have 50/50 combo starters to very few compared to most in MK 10 and 9 and made it that the characters that have actual 50/50 combo starters cannot get 40%+ combos off of those without a crushing blow or spending both bars. Before, in MK 10, you could get either a 40%+ combo from midscreen with 1 bar or a vortex/restand/50-50 with most top tier characters. This time around, characters that hit like a truck (Noob Saibot and Shao Khan being the two best examples) only have highs as their combo starters, but they can get 35%+ on 1 bar easily, while characters that have true 50/50s don't have access to easy 35%+ combos. I kinda like the balance.
Also, Mortal Kombat 11 is the best game in terms of fighting games with tutorials. The tutorial for each character has useful frame data (and it's explained too, which is very nice), each special move and combo string is explained for each character, you have a complete tutorial on footsies, string gaps, 50/50s, restands and so much more.
That's giant progress compared to, say, MK 9 which didn't even have frame data easily visible in the game or MK 10 which only had bare frame data and no tutorial for new players on what those numbers mean and how they can be utilized. 10/10 on that part of the game for the new MK, for sure.
@DeadMemes NeedToStayDead Well, I'd say there is an easier way to look at it. Most characters in MK 11 have a less-damaging combo starter (used to utilize tight frame advantage) and a more damaging combo starter (usually much slower, for whiff punishes and such where the whiffed hit is so minus frames on whiff that the startup frames for the punishing character don't really matter, they're still beating the recovery frames of the character who whiffed an attack) and (usually) 2 or 3 'main' combos. Those less-damaging combo starters usually start with something like a 7 or 8 frame attack. Learning how your combos interact with those 7 or 8 frame attacks is the only important frame data a beginner has to learn. Everything else will come naturally as the person continues to play the game I'd say.
One of the main reasons I love fighting games is that to me it is the highest expression of "skill" one can exercise in any video game genre period. In a fighting game it's you against another player and the better player wins. Period.
There is no such thing as RNG, there is no such thing as camping, there is no such thing as abusing a glitch, a spot or getting a lucky stray kill, there is no such thing as relying on team mates or any single thing outside your own ability to play. It's a clash of pure mechanics and strategy with no bullshit in between. No matter who you play or what you do, the better player wins. And if someone is better than you, you will know it. Nothing comes free in fighting games. You practice, you learn and you adapt. And if you can keep doing that, the wins will come.
Fighting games are one of the very few genres that give you the player absolute agency and absolute skill expression. It's pure 1:1 competition and it's beautiful.
RNG... occasionally exists, either literally(SF2 Stun is hell), or in the slight chaos of physics interacting in corners occasionally
As for Glitches, SF2 says hi again
But any good modern FG has minimal bugs(or even integrates them into its identity, hi again SF2), and no RNG(or at least RNG that matters, hit sparks and dust can use RNG so you're not throwing the same thing out every time)
While I tend to agree with you, I simply got to mention that once you hit a certain level in any fighting game, playing the meta is something that factors into the equation and can make a big enough of a difference between winning and losing.
"there is no such thing as abusing a glitch" Come on now dude, you and I both know that's not true. I mean look at Variable Cancel in Soul Calibur III, Superman's ground pound infinite in JLTF, that hilarious floating shit in SF X Tekken, Roll canceling in CVS 2. I agree with most of what you said though but I have to call that statement out.
and what about mixups? Where you have basically 50% chance to guess which attack to defend from and match victory often depends if you guessed right.
@@Diegoshadow85 It's only a "guess" if you get it wrong. If you get it right it's a "read".
I really liked your video and the fact that we have almost the exact same backstory with competitive games
I think the one piece of advice that I think got looked over, but more a for people that are already into a game but are trying to improve, is to identify your big weaknesses and figure out a way to eliminate them. Being humble enough to recognize where you're not doing the best is important to growing in any given game!
@@HennyVenny thanks! This really seemed from my history of friendly rivalry between myself and one of my closest friends. We're always competing against eachother at any game we both pick up, but its most prominent with Smash Bros. Theres always a cycle of one of us getting better than the other until we figure out what we're failing at and step it up. Because of this we both got good enough to play in legit tournaments, but it wasn't always like that. We both used to get mad at each other when we were losing until it just clicked one day that getting that way wasn't helping. From that point on we just kept helping eachother get better and better!
This absolutely made me grow into a huge fan of fighting games. Thanks for making this, literally life changing in a nice way!
Damn. Maybe you need to learn what life changing means or raise your standards.
@@konradwroblewski2115 dude fuck off
@@konradwroblewski2115 I mean... it changed an aspect of his life did it not? So yes, you could say it's life changing.
I find it funny that Smash---or Melee, anyway---is "really goddamn hard" (21:10) when the point of Smash was that it was supposed to be the easier alternative to other fighting games. The especially funny thing is that what makes Smash so great is its hard and unintentional mechanics (everything from wavedashing in Melee to perfect pivoting in Smash 4).
In melee, mostly of the tech aren't intencionnal, but they're unique and verry technique
if you think wavedash is difficult you didn't see all the think that are frame perfect like super wavedash, yoshi's jump cancel combos, waveshine down air strings or other things like that
it's easy at the beggining, but it maybe the hardest fighting game at hight level due to his non buffer (Every command should be press extremely pressisely, or they just didn't work if you weren't that pressise), his completely absurd speed and his hight level technique
fun fact: sakurai and the team already knew about wavedashing, so i really wouldnt say its unintentional.
@@pierrehaudebourg820 waveshine down-air isnt true you can sdi out of it
@@shuples Wave dashing and stuff was unintentional, they just didn't think anyone would use them. Then the competitive scene happened. That's why they never brought those... mechanics.. back.
@@megaman7424 smashboards.com/threads/dispute-ended-new-sakurai-intervew-wavedashing-was-intentional.162416/
I'm going to watch this again soon. This video when I watched it a year and a half ago or so, reconnected me with my childhood love of fighting games, and I have since learned Street Fighter, Tekken, Guilty Gear, Killer Instinct, and Soulcalibur, and has strengthed my love of the genre, and I'm really thankful this video came into my life when it did
Recently got into fighting games: Vampire Saviour: Lord of Vampire.
My character of choice is Hsien-Ko, who would be the Rock Lee of the game; and I always do a one credit run as the incentive to get good.
I play the version that can help you go pro: though I have no desire to go pro it is best to use the competitive standard for its own sake.
Fighting Game music is always the best music.
You're not wrong. 3rd strike has the best ost of all time imo
Under Night and Killer instinct are awesome in the ost department
This is a claim I can definitely get behind
Faxxs
Tekken, kof, street fighter etc have great osts
"Learn every single move"
*cries in steve fox
Idk man, people actually learn hwoarang, so why not Steve?
@@axzeale3417 just a joke buddy
Yeah, that rule probably doesn't apply to Tekken. You'll be in training mode for months with most characters.
@@axzeale3417 Even if you're going for Hwoarang, or any Tekken character for that matter, it's a fucking nightmare trying to learn the entire move list, especially since most of the moves are just extensions and aren't even used.
*Cries in MBAACC Moon Styles*