DMP #16 - Qigong & Porn Addiction

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  • @HavocJackGames
    @HavocJackGames Рік тому +16

    This couldn’t be more accurate. As someone who suffered from this, every point made in this video lands. Emotional instability. Body shaped by behavior. Lack of willpower, self-esteem, comradery and competitiveness. Women instantly picking up on this. My journey out of this is what led me to Damo and qi gong. It’s empowering to know that the cultivation of these Arts is a direct line away from this nasty affliction.

  • @sinabehbahani7746
    @sinabehbahani7746 Рік тому +2

    Great talk! I'm looking forward to hearing Cindy's talk, Damo!

  • @andrewr311
    @andrewr311 6 місяців тому +1

    It's not just young men. Great video. Someone once said that internet porn is the biggest ever unplanned social experiment on humankind.

  • @vtx5475
    @vtx5475 Рік тому +1

    This was an amazingly informative and timely talk, very relevant for today's state of society. Thanks Damo.

  • @jimmorrissy2276
    @jimmorrissy2276 Рік тому +3

    The information you shared about the kidneys was insightful. Thankyou.

  • @faysavage-winter3440
    @faysavage-winter3440 Рік тому +1

    I love your work; keep it coming. Raw, Authentic, real.

  • @taiji_mo
    @taiji_mo Рік тому

    It's not the first time you talk about that issue, but I think it's the best one so far (even so I'm not completely through). Thank you for that!

  • @DanEntmacher1
    @DanEntmacher1 Рік тому +7

    Thanks Damo. Good to be direct on the matter, especially for cultivators. As someone who has worked with porn addiction as a mental health clinician for many years I can certainly confirm that it is widespread and harmful on many levels and often hard to treat since society seems to condone it. Just a note that a “cuckold” is a man who’s wife is unfaithful (or in a sexual fetish, a man who likes to watch his wife be unfaithful). Perhaps it makes more sense to use the term “voyeur” to describe someone who watches porn?(roughly 90% of men and 60% of women) 🤷‍♂️

  • @GentlyEasy
    @GentlyEasy Рік тому

    A very important and much needed talk! Thank you Damo!!!!

  • @peterh.6010
    @peterh.6010 Рік тому +1

    We always want someone to tell us how it is and what to do. Thank you for doing this for us Damo!

  • @Lightbringer_0
    @Lightbringer_0 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for this. Didn't know the mental and spiritual part was influencing the kidney power that much. Outstanding information for me 🙇

  • @Nithael_
    @Nithael_ Рік тому +5

    Like any addiction it feels good at first but eventually becomes enslavement. Breaking it feels worse than the addiction itself for a long time. Quite the conundrum.

  • @jxto-s2p
    @jxto-s2p 5 місяців тому

    This is great flow , thank you !

  • @jamesm5192
    @jamesm5192 Рік тому +4

    To anyone setting up internet in a home or monastery or school or town: you can block porn and ads before they get to people's devices. Of course people can work around that, but might as well make it inconvenient to access!

  • @SarazHandpans
    @SarazHandpans Рік тому +13

    Fucking hilariously awesome talk Damo! Thanks so much for bluntly addressing the Jing slingin kidney sprayers 🤣🤣🤣 It was also very thought provoking to consider the dynamics of healthy competitiveness! 🙏
    And Yes yes yes!!!! I would love to hear Cindy on the podcast!!! 🙏
    💛☀️💛

  • @MichaelRickicki
    @MichaelRickicki Рік тому

    Thank for this. I train external martial arts and can tell you that, even with the guys in their 20s (I'm 45), there is still a spirit of comradery and competition. Then again, this is boxing, Muay Thai and BJJ so it's a self selecting group.

  • @khoitran6867
    @khoitran6867 Рік тому +1

    I feel so called out listening to this...

  • @sxfxcn0993
    @sxfxcn0993 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if you could do a video on video games at some point? A common issue for many, many young men today

  • @edw4611
    @edw4611 Рік тому +1

    We live in a society with instant gratification for food, mood, sex, entertainment etc. Is it any surprise that so much in life today has lost its value when there is no longer a need to earn anything through ones own effort

  • @timentimentimen
    @timentimentimen Рік тому

    I'm flattered by your accurate biography of my life.

  • @DaoNeigong
    @DaoNeigong Рік тому +1

    Damo, I would like to ask, how competitiveness dissapeared for you, or when should this disappear naturally? When does it dissapear mainly when meditation practise also comes in the picture? I have contemplated about this some before, I was a competitive athlete for decades yet interested in meditation, how should it all have been handled better? Like push competitions for a certain age and it is advised to step away from that and stress meditation practise more? Thank you, Adam from Hungary. The podcast once again is amazing amount of food for thought, important issue lately.

  • @Goldie-j1q
    @Goldie-j1q 11 місяців тому

    Really interesting and insightful, would love to know your views on online dating culture.

    • @LotusNeiGong
      @LotusNeiGong  11 місяців тому

      Online dating culture? I don’t know much about it I am afraid as too old to have ever been involved in it :)

  • @garfieM.-uu3kw
    @garfieM.-uu3kw Рік тому +1

    Interesting topic Damo san. I heard from another qigong master that evertime you choke the chicken and spill the seed you lose about 7 days worth of "Neidan work" and it takes another 7 days to recover to back to that prior state.
    What about for someone who does not spill the seed but just looks and loses essence via losing 'precum' fluid, how many days would that take one back and is it as serious as losing the ejaculatory fluids?

    • @sachinjskml
      @sachinjskml Рік тому +1

      What should be a concern is the yang aspect of the jing the spark the pulse that arise when the jing is set into motion by desires the spark contained in the essence is the crucial component in neidan work so he never advice non healthy level of stagnation in jing use it or loss it kind of situation for general health and well being he recommends moderate sexual activity

    • @garfieM.-uu3kw
      @garfieM.-uu3kw Рік тому +1

      @@sachinjskml so your saying we cant even have a lustful thought in order to preserve the yang spark?

    • @sachinjskml
      @sachinjskml Рік тому

      @@garfieM.-uu3kw any desires will disturb jing the essence should be settled to extract the yang aspect for high level neidan work so there are retreat practices of 100 days for stilling the jing for common people with normal life it would take some years it is a process the mental quality play vital role anyway all these is relevant for advanced level neidan work and microcosmic orbit practices according to my understanding

    • @sachinjskml
      @sachinjskml Рік тому

      @@garfieM.-uu3kw there is an active phase and settling phases so it works out emotions are part of humans I can't say it is completely possible to get rid of lust it is a part of our vital system what should be clear is the mental aspect should be refined along the preservation of essence so the nature of your desires changes will come to a healthy level so jing will be balanced for internal works

    • @AngelMerus
      @AngelMerus Рік тому

      @@garfieM.-uu3kw you can have lustful thoughts that's natural but if you are serious you should be practicing celibacy for 3 months at a time and release once a month after the initial 3 months the reason being is Jing must be consolidated and stilled after about 3 months of this then you can start to turn Jing into chi via the lower dantien this is merely the foundation if you don't have discipline this path isn't for you it requires alot of selflessness and sacrifice but it's worth it.

  • @Eli_water_lily
    @Eli_water_lily 4 місяці тому

    What you say is very deep and you are the fist one i heard saying it. In false spirituality, which is 90 percent of modern approch today the indoctrine us in believing that we have less energy than younger people and that they are more evolved souls...i tried to believe it, but then i had to admit that i dont fit in this whole "holistic peace and falseness" kind of thing. So i wanted to know and trusting myself, which did not come spontaneous, i felt that most younger people have low energy

  • @dartfrog6439
    @dartfrog6439 Рік тому +1

    Nice talk, thanks!

  • @johncandlewick6561
    @johncandlewick6561 Рік тому +1

    Man you spoke truth. You are blessed with common sense man that’s why I listen to you. Anytime I meet someone better than me at something I get excited because they show me what’s possible to achieve and I don’t want to stagnate. It’s actually one of the best thing. Women only say this is bad because their competition style is being bitches to other women. And now I see men adopting this feminine style of competition so from their experience they think it’s the same for men, ITS NOT THE SAME. This is very bad!

  • @ShiroiTengu
    @ShiroiTengu Рік тому +13

    Kids these days need more Uncle Damo and less Jordan Peterson!

    • @LiamBauckham
      @LiamBauckham Рік тому +3

      they are saying pretty much the same thing though? "Men should do something physical, take responsibility of your life etc"

    • @jaygordon4053
      @jaygordon4053 Рік тому +2

      Take family advice from Jordan Peterson and you'll get a daughter like Mikhaila Peterson.

    • @ShiroiTengu
      @ShiroiTengu Рік тому +1

      ​@jaygordon4053 exactly. 😬 I used to really like JBP but he really went wrong at some point. And his daughter... yeah I'm not even going there

    • @JordanG-i5k
      @JordanG-i5k Рік тому

      Or even less Destiny, Hasan, Vaush H3h3. Nothing good comes out of liberalism.

    • @JordanG-i5k
      @JordanG-i5k Рік тому

      ​@LiamBauckham Anyone who holds women accountable is seen as an enemy villain.

  • @taijicreature
    @taijicreature Рік тому +2

    Great talk!!

  • @danschimbischi9459
    @danschimbischi9459 Рік тому

    Hello, Damo! I just want to ask something: Since you are advocating not spilling the jing, what can you advise somebody who has decided to not spill the jing at all (willingly) anymore? Would you mind making a podcast about that? Any advice? Are there exercises we can perform in order to prevent stagnation or simply to support ourselves in this endeavor?

    • @sachinjskml
      @sachinjskml Рік тому

      That is why there is Qigong Neigong & Neidan systems there not spilling the seed only won't work healthy level of jing activation will arise during exercise mental activity any internal work etc

  • @GLANCKSSI
    @GLANCKSSI Рік тому

    Great podcast.

  • @sunnydavidson1814
    @sunnydavidson1814 6 місяців тому

    Once one has depleted one's jing in the manner you describe, is it possible to come back from that, or has one irreversibly squandered one's finite stores of it; doomed to live the rest of one's life with depleted kidney energy? Asking for a friend, obvs

    • @LotusNeiGong
      @LotusNeiGong  6 місяців тому +2

      It’s reversible and repairable :)

    • @sunnydavidson1814
      @sunnydavidson1814 6 місяців тому

      @@LotusNeiGong that's great news, thanks!

  • @akuujutub
    @akuujutub Рік тому

    Eye opening. Thanks.

  • @Eli_water_lily
    @Eli_water_lily 4 місяці тому

    39:40 gosh finally someone who says it😮😮 i agree. Im a millennial and even at work ...a mess falseness, lies and what not!!

  • @EricimoBrowning
    @EricimoBrowning Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing good sir

  • @benjaminmiller3075
    @benjaminmiller3075 Рік тому

    I'm 40 and finally overcoming this. How to repair and recover?

    • @Nithael_
      @Nithael_ Рік тому +6

      I’m not a Qigong master, but I’m actually stronger than before I had the addiction. It took me 3 years. Part of breaking it involved directing the energy I had been wasting into healthier activities. Struggling with the mental & spiritual components greatly strengthened my willpower in general. So I can’t speak to replenishing the jing etc but overall if you really kick it and understand internally & spiritually why you no longer will do it, - Just by “alchemical,y” resolving the conflict at a higher level you will be stronger than before, even if not everything lost is regained in the same way. My primary advice would be not to give up. Even if you backslide don’t give up. Analyze why it happened and just keep going. Resolve to make even the smallest improvement. No one else can really tell you what it means to resolve the conflict for yourself because we are all different. It is a process of self discovery. Hope this helps.

    • @AngelMerus
      @AngelMerus Рік тому

      Start eating garlic and ginger they are potent in Jing and practice celibacy for about 3 months a lower you sexual activity and start a path on internal alchemy and do qi gong for healing if your body is not too destroyed you should be able to recover

  • @verenabayer5504
    @verenabayer5504 Рік тому

    Thank you!

  • @towardstar
    @towardstar Рік тому

    I went through a redpill phase in my early 20s. What a horrible outlook it ended up being. You create misery for everyone around you and reap all of it for yourself in the end.

  • @Blackridy
    @Blackridy Рік тому

    Man fucking love this talk
    Thanks damo

  • @christianschiffer2306
    @christianschiffer2306 Рік тому

    Hey Damo, what are your thoughts on ethical porn like Erika Lust is presenting to the internet. Is it still the same as you explained in this video?

  • @JordanG-i5k
    @JordanG-i5k Рік тому

    A culture can rise no higher than the moral position of her women. So it's a responsibility on Both men and women.

  • @Eli_water_lily
    @Eli_water_lily 4 місяці тому

    I agree, and in my opinion competitiom should be opened to women as well. Instead of passive aggressive behaviour, we should be able to openly confront in a competition and shut down all the cowards lazy mouths. More transparency and more being able to lose. As a woman i can say that it's not possible to compete with a woman without creating permanent damage to the relationship. In society women still can't be natural.

  • @user-uu1cd2tp1v
    @user-uu1cd2tp1v Рік тому

    Nice T-shirt.

  • @janrebec5919
    @janrebec5919 Рік тому +1

    What about coffee and carbs?

    • @ZebraGoat
      @ZebraGoat Рік тому +2

      I'm sure the stimulant effect of coffee is something to take into consideration when practicing internal arts, but outside of that it has a lot of beneficial factors to consider through some research. It also has tannins in it, which are an antinutrient that blocks the absorption of iron. This can be a good or bad thing depending on your diet and health status. If you consume lots of iron rich or iron fortified foods, then tannins can prevent unbound iron. But other people have an iron shortage and then it's best to avoid coffee or other things that contain tannins like tea.
      Carbs on the other hand shouldn't cause you any issues if you don't have any vitamin deficiencies (several B vitamins are especially important for carb metabolism) and aren't consuming excess fat / don't have excess fatty acids in the blood. Carbs have a bad reputation these days, but in general they are the best fuel for the body if you're fairly healthy and don't consume too many fats (research the Randall cycle for more information). I would imagine this is fairly consistent with internal arts, a practitioner likely does not want to be fueling themselves from fat or by turning protein into glucose through gluconeogenesis when they could just be consuming carbs through fruit or well cooked grains and starches.

    • @janrebec5919
      @janrebec5919 Рік тому

      Tnx for answer 👍👍🙂

    • @JayRaz51
      @JayRaz51 Рік тому +4

      Some notes on coffee that I saved from a knowledgeable acupuncturists from within LNG.
      From a Chinese medicine perspective, coffee is considered to be Bitter and Pungent, and warming in nature. It is thought to be beneficial by regulating the Heart Fire due to its ability to drain Fire (with its Bitter flavour) and promote circulation (with its Pungent flavour). However, this of course is if taken in moderation. The coffee bean is in fact a very potent substance, and very little is needed before it becomes detrimental to the body, and like with everything, it has both its positives and negatives - in fact, when roasted and brewed it takes on even stronger properties.
      The main action of coffee is that it strongly stimulates the flow of Qi and stimulates it so much so that it can often feel like a Qi tonic (which is why people may drink it to get more energy). However, it is not tonifying in the slightest, and only draws upon what energy reserves you already have that are often stored within the Kidneys.
      Although coffee strongly stimulates the flow of Qj, which is helpful for any type of stagnation, unfortunately it does not regulate its flow. This is like the herb Chai Hu (for those of you who understand Chinese herbal medicine). Due to the fact that it stimulates the flow of Qi so strongly, yet does not regulate it, the stimulation of flow can actually damage the Liver Yin as the movement is too strong. When talking about the herb Chai Hu, this is why it is often used alongside certain other herbs, such as Bai Shao, which helps to negate these side effects.
      When the Liver Yin becomes damaged it creates Heat, which leads to two perpetuating issues. Firstly, the Heat from the Liver rises to agitate the Heart Fires - essentially throwing more Wood onto the Fire. Secondly, when the Liver Yin is damaged, it draws upon the Kidney Yin for support. This causes the Kidney Yin to deplete, the Qi to rise (again agitating the Heart), and results in a lack of Kidney Yin to restrain the Heart Fire. Once this happens, palpitations may begin to occur when drinking coffee, lower back pain can arise, and Liver type tinnitus can occur.
      It should be noted that decaf coffee is not an answer to this either, as it is the coffee bean that holds these properties, and not the caffeine itself. Also, certain methods of decaffeination are damaging in their own ways!

  • @blizzyb4078
    @blizzyb4078 Рік тому

    16:30
    19:25
    24:00

  • @paulmcintyre7800
    @paulmcintyre7800 Рік тому

    Haha. Ah, great. Don’t pull the punches my friend 👏👊🙏

    • @LotusNeiGong
      @LotusNeiGong  Рік тому +1

      Oh really? I thought I was really gentle and diplomatic :)

    • @paulmcintyre7800
      @paulmcintyre7800 Рік тому

      Gentle & diplomatic enough to be sure ;) The right dose of medicine!

  • @eurocopit
    @eurocopit Рік тому

    Your talk has a simplistic attitude and you speak in a doctrine not in inclusivity also stopped listening at 54:54 into the 1:04:32

    • @carmellewis2466
      @carmellewis2466 Рік тому

      ...is that you Andrew?!

    • @JordanG-i5k
      @JordanG-i5k Рік тому

      ​@carmellewis2466 Is that you Drew? Destiny or Melina?

    • @JordanG-i5k
      @JordanG-i5k Рік тому

      He's has a tradcon mindset and you can't really blame him. He came from a two parent household.

    • @eurocopit
      @eurocopit Рік тому

      @@JordanG-i5k I was hoping with all the work he has done with Qigong he would be a little more enlightened

  • @Taoist111
    @Taoist111 Рік тому +1

    A man has to have a hobby.

  • @chloeagape4853
    @chloeagape4853 Рік тому

    As someone non-binary who grew up with boys, I do find your take very interesting. I appreciate that the points you bring up are nuanced and not the sort of circlejerk that this topic can sometimes bring up in people.
    I grew up in Silicon Valley and am currently a software engineer. I spent all of my childhood on the computer, and have dated both Gen Z and Millennial men. Many of the points that you bring up are observations I've found to be true, though maybe with a different angle.
    I (a Zillennial) generally find myself more attracted to people who are less pulled in by the many scattered forces of the internet that try to influence people to be a certain way. To be completely frank, all the partners I've had who watched porn regularly were generally crap at sex. And I get what you mean by you can "feel" the lack of essence or grounding. It's actually kind of pitiful, to be honest, because this is clearly not something that's their fault, but the fault of society and parenting.
    The ones who are more physically attuned (as they do exist; after all, new world records in athletics are broken every year) do have more of this groundedness, but in general it seems that it's compartmentalized to certain people and certain situations rather than as a way of living amongst a society.
    I think it's worth mentioning that the inclination toward collaboration and non-confrontation could be products of large cultural shifts that have happened geopolitically. After the West experienced two world wars and a cold war (which can be debated to be ongoing), I imagine the possibility of mutually assured destruction by nuclear bombing shaped the way people think about treating people they consider "enemies."
    Additionally, the Gen Z men I have dated are generally far, FAR better at respecting boundaries and consent than any other generation of man I've dated. There's nothing to explain to them because it's very obvious to them. They also generally don't get "weird" or protective about their masculinity because it's not part of their culture to. Relational problems like abuse and sexual assault are much more well-known amongst people--someone can post about your shitty behavior very easily, and society is much more likely to take the woman's side now. As a result, I think less extreme relational abuse occurs as it's less normalized. So I think there are some positives to point out here as well.