Q&A w/ Irene. Flashbacks, dissociation, working w/ freeze, anxiety, humming for healing & more!
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- Опубліковано 1 кві 2020
- Hi UA-cam folks. Here's another one of my long-form live streams that I do, most weeks, via my Facebook Page, so sharing with ya'll here. Yes, it is long, :), but it is packed with a lot of great questions, education, and some basic tips for nervous system healing and health. Plus resources for you to dive into and start. ENJOY!
Here are some Questions/Topics I discuss in this chat:
(2:31) - Overview of work I do and Nervous System
(6:40) - Healing Trauma video series
(10:32) - Importance of Education when healing trauma
(14:22) - Do you believe in emotional ages? Past experiences and memories
(17:47) - Disassociation and overwhelm
(23:30) - Freeze response
(32:25) - Yawning - tired or system shutting down?
(34:26) - Panic/Anxiety attacks
(38:07) - How to help deal with anxiety during this time
(47:12) - Grief
(49:46) - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD)
(52:06) - Syndromes
(1:02:08) - Freeze and Fear
(1:08:07) - Shutdown and effects on body
(1:09:35) - Exercising and effects of adrenal fatigue
(1:16:56) - Humming/sounds/chanting
(1:22:08) - Hormonal Issues
(1:28:56) - Creating Boundaries
(1:30:30) - Repressed Memories
Resources I mention during this video:
► Healing Trauma 3-Part Video Training
irenelyon.com/healing-trauma-...
► A simple analogy for nervous system healing
• A simple analogy for n...
► Free Resource Centre
irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
► What the heck is orienting? (and why is it so important?!)
• What the heck is orien...
► What do you do when you have unresolved trauma? Two types of orienting
• What do you do when yo...
► The Best Kept Secret In Health
• The Best Kept Secret I...
► Why healthy shame is good for us and toxic shame isn't.
• Why healthy shame is g...
► The Polyvagal Theory. Explained
• The Polyvagal Theory. ...
► How to be smart with our breath
• How to be smart with o...
►3 things to know when healing anxiety
• 3 things to know when ...
► [Trauma Tips #4] What is an anxiety attack?
• [Trauma Tips #4] What ...
► Healthy Nervous System Revolution FB group
groups/nervo...
► 15 minute Neurosensory Exercise.
irenelyon.com/15-min-exercise
► Grandmother Lore Aboriginal Prophecy
• Video
► How stored trauma creates somatic symptoms (aka: chronic illness)
• How stored trauma crea...
► The 2 Little Known Stages of Adrenal Fatigue and What You Can Do to Fix It
irenelyon.com/2015/12/10/adre...
► Is exercise important when healing trauma?
• Is exercise important ...
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Please know that…
The statements on this UA-cam channel or in videos are simply opinion. Content presented or posted on this channel is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment or a professional therapeutic relationship. Content presented or posted is intended to provide general health information for educational purposes only and you should contact the appropriate healthcare professional before relying on any such information.
My website is a wealth of free resources and information on how to start this work, so here it is one more time: irenelyon.com
Irene, everything you say is fantastic. I watched so many videos and it helped so much to deal with anxiety. much love to you, Irene
1:17:51 about humming
This is just absolute gold, a lifesaver, and a Godsend. Thank you. ❤️
Once your adrenals are that shot, it takes time to build them back up.low doses of pantothenic acid and Vit C are needed to help them heal along with some lifestyle changes. TLC needed. Great advice to not ignore the body and try to push through exercising.
How do I stay present enough to process this and hear you
I love the way you teach. I only wish you had slides with written information.
You are amazing, I have learned so much from your videos last several years, and I’ve probably only seen a small% of them! Sadly UA-cam removed the aboriginal woman’s video, claiming it violated their rules of conduct!! ??? Just thought you should know. 😞
is there anywhere to still find this video? has it been re-uploaded?
Holy crap! The humming of it all! I've been compulsively humming for a long time and seriously was like 'am I officially losing it?!' It absolutely makes me nutty and would love to turn it off!!! Coping mechanism for a stressed system?!
You got it! It's helping your system self sooth itself :)
Nicole - Team Lyon
This why singing purges for me and brings me into the moment?
My exs grandma used to hum and they'd make fun of her. Already thought it wasn't nice but dang
Thank you so much!! May you be blessed with everything good for all the good you do so graciously and benevolently!!!!
Thank you, Irene!!!
Vancouver born but Albertan through school yrars..but in and out of. BC. .miss hone painfully...i cry going the mountain but the ocean feels like home. Its the place i associate with both freedom and my safe place... Recently returned after a traumatic situation to restore and reconnect ...found my need to pay attention to the earths cycles to remember how to breathe properlyhaving been dealing with levels of ptsd for as long as i can remember..recalling at 12 wanting off this earth... That confidered suicidal? ..
These videos by you Irene in specific has been a huge help in finding my place , to connect to the now and here. You've clearly been manifested by those who prayed as long as i have for the need to feel understood...and real...and strong..and coherent.
So much love and light from me is shared with you in gratitude, as i share your name with others who i love on the levels i'm now learning I've been trying to love myself.
"Self care is how you take your power back"... Is the phrase that propelled into verbing the love i nouned but only survived because i believed existed but illusive.
Mercury in pisces im not an assertiive by nature..it felt angry for so long...i refuse to play the "Who can be the biggest asshole" my family likes to play with the sensitives as emotions are concidered amusing. I appreciate interactions that theres no losers ,in my life.
Fibro, ptsd being constants since 24. Been wondering if theres a cycle these traumas work through chakras... This relevant in helping me connect to a sence of self or possibly stepping into another perspective but from a 'still me' but with different 'eyes' from chosen centered chakras..?
Im gratefull for your contribution . Thank you
Excellent video and links thank you
Thank you so much for your sharing!
Humming activates the ventral vagal system.
Irene, you ask elsewhere whether some of us didn't see this Q&A - I started watching and stopped around 20 minutes in (no idea why), and don't appear to have seen the whole till now. I wish I had seen the discussion of how to handle this pandemic (but I've seen it now, and it's great). I saw the Aunty Mulara film from something Seth Lyon (your hubby) shared. And yes, in the UK we're encouraged to go outside for exercise, and to keep our distance from others while we're doing it. But I can stand under a tree and enjoy it! I wake up each morning feeling as if I've been crying (crying is an issue for me), so I'm trying to mother my inner child about it.
I hope you’re feeling better now!
@@Tinyteacher1111 Thank you, but things have got more complicated, and I need to pull things together. It's all a learning journey, and needs self discipline and patience. xxx
My PMS has improved tremendously when I did the Voo-Aaah exercise during an irritable episode! I directed the Voo-Aah to the person (my mother lol) who was causing my irritability. Afterwards my PMS symptoms disappeared. I do it when any symptoms flare up, but they rarely do anymore!!
This is amazing!
Love it. Thanks for sharing!
Nicole - Team Lyon
is there a link to the indigenous woman´s speech that irene is referring to in her video? thanks
Hi Silk, it is linked above, take care xo
@@IreneLyon I am afraid I and my close ones don't belong to those well enough to work efficiently and consistently with ourselves alone yet. We are too isolated, and too affected in the now. I know we could co-operate, but they don'rt seem to believe me and to want it. We are probably too close in trauma-knots and need someone outside to help us. I feel torn apart by wanting to heal myself and not wanting to leave them abandoned in sickness. In my country, there don't seem to be real trauma-therapist, at least not wanting to help me, or accessible to me.
I can't seem to get better without first having all the various help I need to get well, because I have often been abandoned and accused of managing , being really good at doing good things. They say I manage, although they know I don't and see my bent back. This messes me up, that they lie so i get more unsure and unable to know whom to trust how far and to be labilely calm.
The Somatic experiencing therapist I went to was really bad: after agreing on the phone, she in reality just wanted to do excercises-techniques with me, where I need(ed) more intimate, bodily-soully supportive treatment, maybe also massage, stroking, non-expectant embrace..
Thank you for the humming part; I have suspected for decades that it may be connected to trauma, but not heard of it by anyone else...
Hi Irene,
I've just watched this video, located the link to the Indigenous elder video but unfortunately it has be removed because it crosses one of youtubes community guidelines??
Does whistling work too, or does it have to vibrate in your throat?
Hi Kathryn Willette, Jen here from Team Lyon. Whistling can help too - making sound generally can be quite helpful, as can singing - and it will likely have a different impact than the more vibratory sounds. You might play with it yourself and see what you notice. Sometimes the differences can be quite subtle, sometimes more noticeable.
Patricia from South Africa
QUESTION: I'm feeling through a lot of terror at the moment, but it seems it's shifting really really slowly , so I go into frustration because I know those things seen through the terror aren't true, but it's still coming up even though I feel like I've been feeling it for the last few months or so when this started to come up. I wonder if you can let me know if this is normal or am I doing something wrong? I wonder if I'm resisting feeling it at times, or I'm just feeling it so that it's not there anymore, which isn't fair towards it.
I guess I just want to know if it is normal that it takes time? especially because this terror comes from developmental trauma where there was consistent everyday being told 'that's dangerous, this is dangerous, etc' where you're made to feel incapable of doing anything. I'm seeing improvements about going out in the outside world, but not much around small things which is where the trauma was mostly.
Stek K., Jen here from Team Lyon. Feeling a lot of terror can be intense for sure. You did mention that you're noticing things shifting, so it may be a matter of time. And yes, it does often take time to shift long-standing patterns, especially when we have a history of early trauma.
Sometimes too we may need to take steps to grow nervous system capacity and focus on doing so as much (if not more) than feeling the feelings for a while.
Making space for the frustration may also be important. In this nervous system work frustration is a form of what we call "healthy aggression", and the fact that you're noticing this may be a sign of growing capacity. I'll link to a few of Irene's resources related both to growing capacity and to working with Healthy Aggression.
If you're drawn to this work, you might also check out Irene's 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up. The is a self-study course that you can start any any time, and it can be a great way to learn basic nervous system education and practice.
DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
What is Healthy Aggression? - irenelyon.com/2019/08/19/what-is-healthy-aggression/
21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com/
@@IreneLyon Thank you, it makes sense. Especially on the frustration, it really connectsto the anger I feel too sometimes. I work with a SEP one on one and I've watched most of Irene's videos :) thanks for the links though. I was/am confused about what my system is doing, because after each session it's as if things get rearranged but if you look at it overall, it always seems the same. SMaybe the trigger moves from one area to another, but it's always the same terror. In session we thought it could be compensation, bc the terror is still there but it feels like there's more to that, like the system is figuring out things. What do you think? Yes it seems it's a matter of time.
The aboriginal lady video was removed from UA-cam 😢 any other way to access it?
Hi Sunnyday, Seth here with Team Lyon. Sorry, which aboriginal lady? We aren't aware of any videos we've posted with an aboriginal woman. There is an aboriginal elder I've done some workshops with, Grandmother Mulara, and she has a few videos on UA-cam.
@@sethlyon4064 Hi seth! It's the link in the notes section of this video toward the bottom. If you click it it says it was removed from youtube. Irene referenced it a lot in this video so I was wanting to see it
@@Doorto_theriver - ah, yes that's Grandmother Mulara :) Just type in her name in the search box and you'll see many videos come up. In many of these videos she talks about the same kinds of things as she did in the video that is missing,
@@sethlyon4064 thanks seth!
In Australia they all were hiding inside, i was going into city, you could go anywhere but they all drank the coolade, your. chance of catching anything was remote, I am older, never had snake 🐍 bite wnich crippled so many, I don"t understand how people got long covid not having had the jab, admit something was released into our air i heard😂❤i did get sick later but it was intravenous antibiotics that ruined my microbiome❤
how can heal derealization and anxiety
HI Joe Niati, Jen here from Irene's Team. With trauma, the nervous system often overuses survival physiology which can lead to the experiences you describe. As we learn to heal trauma and grow nervous system regulation and capacity, we also typically grow access to the ability to simply feel okay, or even peaceful, when in the absence of threat. This is what Irene teaches, through her free education as well as her paid course and program. If you haven't yet seen her free Healing Trauma video series, I'd suggest starting there. I'll also link to a few free resources that might be of helpful.
free Healing Trauma video series - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
DIY. Ancient Anxiety Medicine - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
4 Surprisingly Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm... - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/