This video popped up in you tube randomly today. I just got home from detecting a large park and pulled up SO many pull tabs and ring pulls. I needed to see this video earlier. Will keep in mind next time with my 800. Thank you.
Only person who I've ever heard so they hope to find a ring pull lol I get why tho just funny to hear . I love how you are showing exactly what the detector does thankyou
Hey bro your friend Dan was right about single frequency on pull tabs, 4khz seems to be the most effective, I took it out @the parks and did more test for about 3hrs boy what a big break through thank you so much for your videos take care out there and a happy hunting
It’s a useful cross-check when you’re hunting for 16/17 coin targets, but irregularly shaped objects like jewelry might be missed. It definitely has its use, but is no replacement for an experienced ear…
Great video and information there, our hammered silver here in the uk are in this number region so will be definitely trying this out. Watched all of your videos on the nox 800 and really appreciate everything you're doing. ❤
Thanks for watching! I’d be very interested to know if this technique works for hammered silver coins vs rubbish. I think the irregular shape or hammered coins might be an issue though… good luck!
Just got my self the 600 and loving it. Your videos are great thank you. I noticed you move around when swiping over the target. What would it indicated if the target I'd changed when you did this?
Solid targets such as coins, rings, copper/brass/gold/silver etc will typically give the same strong, consistent tone and target ID from all angles. If the target tone and ID fluctuates from different angles, it’s more likely to be a trash target or iron. Having said that, if in doubt, always dig it… good luck!
A good question. So many good targets do not sound solid because the target is on edge, or near something else that’s partly masking the signal. If you only dig the most solid signals, you’d be missing a lot! Odd shaped targets like badges, buttons, and other interesting relics nearly always sound a little bit scratchy.
I'm gunna try that!!! I wonder what it will do with 50% silver threepences (16/17 on my 'Nox) - it should do the same as a 20.c piece. The only danger is gold rings in the same range, but given I don't usually dig 16/17 because of the number of ring pulls, I guess I won't lose. Thanks!!
Yes, the post 1946 thrips (50% silver) have a target ID of 16/17, so the test should hold true for these as well, although they are much, much smaller than a 20c or 50c coin. If you’re hoping to find jewelers, I wouldn’t be using this test at all, because jewelry is irregular in shape, and rings will act very much like ring pulls. Let me know how you go.
For aluminum cans, I use the size test by lifting the coil above the ground. If you can still “hear” the Target 6 inches or more above the ground, it’s a large target (ie not a coin, jewelry etc), but likely a can or large piece of aluminum…
As mentioned at the start of the video, this is ONLY aimed at helping to tell the difference between coins that have a target ID of 16/17 versus ring pulls etc. Other targets must be treated differently!
@@coilsandcoinsdetecting I know but the problem being is ppl will then not dig these signals and miss good targets, I see loads of videos where ppl also discriminate pull tabs ,ok if your just coin shooting but why miss out on a gold ring ,best dig all iffy signals, my iffy one paid me out £110k worth of hoard
Not ignoring them, just choosing to concentrate on coins (Australian 20c) in this particular video. Definitely not the approach I would be using in older sites, or older countries, looking for relics and old coins…
If you’ve got the time I’d certainly be digging many of those iffy targets as they could be jewelry and other interesting items. For coin shooting, this trick seems to help…
It does work for $1 & $2 some of the time. The issue with 21 & 22 Target ID objects is that many of the junk targets are bottle tops, and they don’t tend to act as erratically in 4/5 kHz single frequency mode as ring pulls do.
@@coilsandcoinsdetecting Hi Steve - thanks for your reply. You're right - some bottle tops near the surface ring up exactly like gold coins. I'll certainly start experimenting with single frequency on these too despite the fact that, as you say, they may not behave as erratically as ring pulls compared to silvers. With the scarcity of coins these days, anything will help!
Yeh that was my question too. I run a 20-21-22 discrimination and anything that helps eliminate bottle tops would be great. But looks like changing the frequency might not be the answer. However I might shoot for more 16 and 17s with this new info. Great vid. Thanks Steve
@@matlaw123 hi Matlaw - that's tight discrimination you run there! I'm finding there are fewer and fewer dollars in the ground these days, so I'm happy to go deeper for pre-decimals too. Rarely any monetary value, but still fun. You'd be missing not only those pre-decimals, but also the occasional piece of jewellery.
@@matlaw123 I believe this single freaky test works quite well for ring pulls but not so well for bottle tops is due to two major differences: the first is that ring pulls have a hole in them, so this creates an inconsistent signal back to the detector, where’s bottle tops don’t have that hole. Second, ring pulls are made of aluminum (mostly), and bottle tops are often made from alloys that aren’t all that different to coins, so they sound very similar. As a result, 21,22,23 bottle top signals can’t really be identified using this trick…
A can is ten cents and a ring pull means there is 10 cents nearby....once l found 4 ring pulls near each other and kept digging till l found 3 of the four cans ...after l had filled the hole back in it was getting dark. Seems a lot of effort for 3 aluminium cans ..but 30 cents. For 3 hours digging is better than l usually get sometimes only one can... I was wondering is there a aluminium can worth more than ten cents
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Will be using this. Took your advice on lifting the coil to confirm if it's a big target and have stopped digging so many cans.
Let me know how it goes. I’d be interested to know if you find it consistent or not. Happy to hear the target size check is working for you!
This video popped up in you tube randomly today. I just got home from detecting a large park and pulled up SO many pull tabs and ring pulls. I needed to see this video earlier. Will keep in mind next time with my 800. Thank you.
Glad you found it useful! Good luck!
The best instructional video maker by a country mile out there M8 = keep em going !!!
Thanks for your kind words John!
Only person who I've ever heard so they hope to find a ring pull lol I get why tho just funny to hear .
I love how you are showing exactly what the detector does thankyou
😂🤣yep - the one time I actually wanted to find a ring pull, and I couldn’t find one anywhere! Typical!
Hey bro your friend Dan was right about single frequency on pull tabs, 4khz seems to be the most effective, I took it out @the parks and did more test for about 3hrs boy what a big break through thank you so much for your videos take care out there and a happy hunting
Awesome! Thanks for letting us know you've had success with this trick, and thanks Dan for sharing his knowledge too!
Great video, and learned something new today from a well experienced metal detector.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
That’s going to save a lot of digging👍 Thanks Steve
It’s a useful cross-check when you’re hunting for 16/17 coin targets, but irregularly shaped objects like jewelry might be missed. It definitely has its use, but is no replacement for an experienced ear…
I imagine the reason for the blipping is because of the hole in the ring pull.I enjoyed seeing this. Thank you
Excellent tip. Sooo many ring pulls around my area.
Thanks for watching!
Great video and information there, our hammered silver here in the uk are in this number region so will be definitely trying this out. Watched all of your videos on the nox 800 and really appreciate everything you're doing. ❤
Thanks for watching! I’d be very interested to know if this technique works for hammered silver coins vs rubbish. I think the irregular shape or hammered coins might be an issue though… good luck!
Thanks Steve. Informative as ever!
You’re welcome!
Great demonstration. Thanks for your time.
Thanks for watching - glad it was useful for you!
Another great video, thanks. Strangely I normally get ring pulls coming in at 13 to 14
Anywhere between 13-16 is possible for ring pulls (unfortunately )…
Proper deduction. Well done.
Thanks!
This is why I like the mine Lab 800 V the mine Lab 900 because it jumps around,just saying though the mine Lab 900 goes deeper
They’re both great machines, with their own quirks that you will definitely learn over time.
Just got my self the 600 and loving it. Your videos are great thank you. I noticed you move around when swiping over the target. What would it indicated if the target I'd changed when you did this?
Solid targets such as coins, rings, copper/brass/gold/silver etc will typically give the same strong, consistent tone and target ID from all angles. If the target tone and ID fluctuates from different angles, it’s more likely to be a trash target or iron. Having said that, if in doubt, always dig it… good luck!
@@coilsandcoinsdetecting I always do dig it. That's why my field looks like a bomb site lol
great piece of info. Thanks for sharing
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Interesting. Why not just stay in a low freq and just avoid the bouncy and stick to solid hits?
A good question. So many good targets do not sound solid because the target is on edge, or near something else that’s partly masking the signal. If you only dig the most solid signals, you’d be missing a lot! Odd shaped targets like badges, buttons, and other interesting relics nearly always sound a little bit scratchy.
Great video, thanks but what about rings, jewelry rings that is.
If you’re looking for jewelry, then you really must dig everything. This video is aimed at those who are coin shooting…
Hey bro thanks for the information will try it on 4-5khz
Good luck - hope it helps!
good useful information. Thank You.
You’re welcome! Happy it was useful for you!
I'm gunna try that!!! I wonder what it will do with 50% silver threepences (16/17 on my 'Nox) - it should do the same as a 20.c piece. The only danger is gold rings in the same range, but given I don't usually dig 16/17 because of the number of ring pulls, I guess I won't lose. Thanks!!
Yes, the post 1946 thrips (50% silver) have a target ID of 16/17, so the test should hold true for these as well, although they are much, much smaller than a 20c or 50c coin. If you’re hoping to find jewelers, I wouldn’t be using this test at all, because jewelry is irregular in shape, and rings will act very much like ring pulls. Let me know how you go.
Great video. Very informative.
Thanks for your kind words!
That's awesome mate thanks!!👍👍
You’re welcome!
Great advice! Would this work with tin cans too?
For aluminum cans, I use the size test by lifting the coil above the ground. If you can still “hear” the Target 6 inches or more above the ground, it’s a large target (ie not a coin, jewelry etc), but likely a can or large piece of aluminum…
Great video😊
Thanks Lance - glad you found it useful.
Might pay to try this on a silver and gold ring and a ring with a stone or bezel in it and see if it behaves the same way wouldn't want to miss things
As mentioned at the start of the video, this is ONLY aimed at helping to tell the difference between coins that have a target ID of 16/17 versus ring pulls etc. Other targets must be treated differently!
@@coilsandcoinsdetecting I know but the problem being is ppl will then not dig these signals and miss good targets, I see loads of videos where ppl also discriminate pull tabs ,ok if your just coin shooting but why miss out on a gold ring ,best dig all iffy signals, my iffy one paid me out £110k worth of hoard
do u ever use bigger coils or mainly 11inch ?
I find the larger coil less useful given the types of sites I typically hunt. If I was to use one at all, it would most likely be on the beach.
Very interesting.
What is that digging tool? Thanks.
In this video I’m using my old eBay digger. It was about AUD$30, but I don’t see it being sold any more…
Nice vid!
Thanks!
Unfortunately dont work on beach
You might find it works best on the deeper targets. Shallow targets don’t seem to react to this trick as well as those deeper targets.
Hi, if you are ignoring ringpull signals then you will be ignoring lots of coins and potentially gold coins and rings :)
Not ignoring them, just choosing to concentrate on coins (Australian 20c) in this particular video. Definitely not the approach I would be using in older sites, or older countries, looking for relics and old coins…
Huge!
I think everyone should know BY NOW that every detector signal that goes undug COULD be a piece of valuable gold jewelry. Ok I get it.
Nice video must try it
Let me know if it works for you.
@@coilsandcoinsdetecting I will let you know as soon as it’s dry enough to get out, I have tried lifting the coil on large targets and works great 👍
I like when people pass over ring pulls and pull tabs. More finds for me. LOL
If you’ve got the time I’d certainly be digging many of those iffy targets as they could be jewelry and other interesting items. For coin shooting, this trick seems to help…
Great idea! Has anyone tried this for $1 and $2 coins?
It does work for $1 & $2 some of the time. The issue with 21 & 22 Target ID objects is that many of the junk targets are bottle tops, and they don’t tend to act as erratically in 4/5 kHz single frequency mode as ring pulls do.
@@coilsandcoinsdetecting Hi Steve - thanks for your reply. You're right - some bottle tops near the surface ring up exactly like gold coins. I'll certainly start experimenting with single frequency on these too despite the fact that, as you say, they may not behave as erratically as ring pulls compared to silvers. With the scarcity of coins these days, anything will help!
Yeh that was my question too. I run a 20-21-22 discrimination and anything that helps eliminate bottle tops would be great. But looks like changing the frequency might not be the answer. However I might shoot for more 16 and 17s with this new info. Great vid. Thanks Steve
@@matlaw123 hi Matlaw - that's tight discrimination you run there! I'm finding there are fewer and fewer dollars in the ground these days, so I'm happy to go deeper for pre-decimals too. Rarely any monetary value, but still fun. You'd be missing not only those pre-decimals, but also the occasional piece of jewellery.
@@matlaw123 I believe this single freaky test works quite well for ring pulls but not so well for bottle tops is due to two major differences: the first is that ring pulls have a hole in them, so this creates an inconsistent signal back to the detector, where’s bottle tops don’t have that hole. Second, ring pulls are made of aluminum (mostly), and bottle tops are often made from alloys that aren’t all that different to coins, so they sound very similar. As a result, 21,22,23 bottle top signals can’t really be identified using this trick…
Thats going to lose you all those gold rings
Analogic MD's are much more accurate..
A can is ten cents and a ring pull means there is 10 cents nearby....once l found 4 ring pulls near each other and kept digging till l found 3 of the four cans ...after l had filled the hole back in it was getting dark. Seems a lot of effort for 3 aluminium cans ..but 30 cents. For 3 hours digging is better than l usually get sometimes only one can...
I was wondering is there a aluminium can worth more than ten cents
I don't metal detect for money of aluminum can...lol