@Pan Man How you managed to mess up the release date of a 15 year old game is beyond me, and while not a copy, the demoman in tf2 was obviously inspired by the old tfc demoman model, as heavy was likely inspired by the current tfc heavy model
Headcanon: Old models were the original 1930 mercs but they were so incompetent, they all died within the first day of fighting and quickly got replaced. Catch-Up comic doesn't even bother to mention them in the timeline.
Better Headcannon: The old models were the original 1930 Mercs but they were too competent at their jobs so they were sent to fight in WW2 and replaced with newer Mercs to continue the eternal Gravel War with no clear winner. The new Comic 7 basically debunks your "cannon" I'm sorry to say since the real war ended in the 30s-40s which means they were really the best team out of all the rest. Also the OG game models were based on Desert Storm gear which doesn't make much sense when they were added in the comics later on.
dragons fury is only short ranged, the tfc pyro had a rocket launcher like the tfc soldier, except that it did less damage, set people on fire, and didnt need to be reloaded. the flare gun only hits directly and doesnt explode on impact. the only thing that comes close is the scorch shot, but currently in tf2 its not as powerful, and it functions a bit different as the projectile bounces off enemies and explodes when it hits a surface or the ground. also it needs to be reloaded after each shot, following the design of tf2's flare guns
The original models were based on Desert Storm gear cause TFC was released in the 90s so when they brought the old team back in the comics they just never addressed that timeline era.
1:23 Did you know that when you use your microphone in THIS 20-YEAR OLD GAME, your in-game character's mouth actually opens and closes? I don't understand why Valve didn't include this in TF2, and even in their own Left 4 Dead series!!! And...your "new Team Fortress models" are not updated, because updated versions change their facial expressions when firing your guns! Your "new models" hold the same facial expresions...all the time!
@@_nom_ I forgot about the text to speech in chat! But I do remember that the older version of the American Army (AA) had TTS in the chat as well! COOL features we don't see anymore in modern games...
"And...your "new Team Fortress models" are not updated, because updated versions change their facial expressions when firing your guns! Your "new models" hold the same facial expresions...all the time!" Wait what?! where can I get this new model?
@@_nom_ I see why, they looks like at first they tried to replicate the looks of the characters from the quake mod, you can see they had the same pillow looking bulletproof jacket and evetything except they added a little more details to the original characters of half life TF.
i wish there were mods to make these new designs more consistent, i wanna see a high detailed version of the new shotgun world models along without both black and white rocket launchers and basically every single model that was incorrect here i wanna see a half-life esque hd models option that changes weapon view models sometime soon
You mean Redmond and Blutarch, the New TFC engineer didn't help the Mann brothers, his father did, Radigan Conagher who built both and probably the administrator or gray their life extending machines
@@sometf2playerdouble-barreled shotgun is a spas-12. And it was created in 1980s Though no. The sniper rifle that the sniper had was made after 2000. It seems like at this time
And also the medics super nailgun is about the same as the old model just with a tad bit of upgrades. And same for scout. Even if this is purely just my opinion
Well, it's a minigun, so overall design is bound to be similar. But its viewmodel still uses the old worldmodel's style. Same with nailguns. New worldmodels are surely upgraded old ones, but designs of viewmodels still doesn't all that much resemble new models.
Sorry for the late reply, hope it's still relevant xD You need to set "Max. players" value to 0 while creating a local server to allow the game to change POV.
TFC doesn't allow switching to third person since it's a multiplayer game, and that could give you an unfair advantage. You need to set "Max. players" value to 0 to trick the game into thinking this is a singleplayer session. And don't forget "sv_cheats 1", of course.
Somehow old Demoman looks similar to the TF2 Demoman. That beanie and eyepatch and that grenade launcher so look similar to me
@Pan Man How you managed to mess up the release date of a 15 year old game is beyond me, and while not a copy, the demoman in tf2 was obviously inspired by the old tfc demoman model, as heavy was likely inspired by the current tfc heavy model
Prob TF2 Demoman's design model is actually inspired of TFC old Demoman's design
Is nobody gonna talk how the eye on old tfc scout went on to be the inspiration of monoculous?
Tf classic: real army military of soldiers
Tf2: group of mercenaries
TF2 Brotherhood of Arms: Realistic millitary shooter
Final product: Throwing piss at invisible guy
@@davymachinegun5130 fire 🔥 a invisible guy
tfc old models just look great then the new one
@@evilleo7012 yes they look cool
@@starbuckoof5219 looking in the old model of demoman reminds me of the tf2 one but without black face
Headcanon: Old models were the original 1930 mercs but they were so incompetent, they all died within the first day of fighting and quickly got replaced. Catch-Up comic doesn't even bother to mention them in the timeline.
Is that true? If so where does it say it.
The old models show up on the original page of the Engineer Update actually
@@guestrerboo01 Day 1, right next to the poster of John “Tower of Hats” Booth
i mean we know in the comics they are alive, they are just like awful people. which is suprising considering the protagonist(s) of tf2 comics
Better Headcannon: The old models were the original 1930 Mercs but they were too competent at their jobs so they were sent to fight in WW2 and replaced with newer Mercs to continue the eternal Gravel War with no clear winner.
The new Comic 7 basically debunks your "cannon" I'm sorry to say since the real war ended in the 30s-40s which means they were really the best team out of all the rest.
Also the OG game models were based on Desert Storm gear which doesn't make much sense when they were added in the comics later on.
Would definitely be cool to see a newer version of the Incendiary/Napalm Cannon reappear for the Pyro!
Flare gun/dragons fury?
dragons fury is only short ranged, the tfc pyro had a rocket launcher like the tfc soldier, except that it did less damage, set people on fire, and didnt need to be reloaded. the flare gun only hits directly and doesnt explode on impact. the only thing that comes close is the scorch shot, but currently in tf2 its not as powerful, and it functions a bit different as the projectile bounces off enemies and explodes when it hits a surface or the ground. also it needs to be reloaded after each shot, following the design of tf2's flare guns
4:25 it's strange how they got a spas 12 in the 1930s 13:40
Because it never supposed to be 1930's
TFC has a sci-fi style to it since it was heavily based on Half-life
The original models were based on Desert Storm gear cause TFC was released in the 90s so when they brought the old team back in the comics they just never addressed that timeline era.
1:23 Did you know that when you use your microphone in THIS 20-YEAR OLD GAME, your in-game character's mouth actually opens and closes? I don't understand why Valve didn't include this in TF2, and even in their own Left 4 Dead series!!! And...your "new Team Fortress models" are not updated, because updated versions change their facial expressions when firing your guns! Your "new models" hold the same facial expresions...all the time!
They also had text to speech, sprays.
@@_nom_ I forgot about the text to speech in chat! But I do remember that the older version of the American Army (AA) had TTS in the chat as well! COOL features we don't see anymore in modern games...
"And...your "new Team Fortress models" are not updated, because updated versions change their facial expressions when firing your guns! Your "new models" hold the same facial expresions...all the time!"
Wait what?! where can I get this new model?
Because in Team Fortress 2 the character talked by themselves and had different personalities.
Because TF2 characters move their mouths to voice commands, I imagine mic would clash with that and cause problems.
I like how they seem to have used the old tfc Demoman design as inspiration for tf2’s Demoman
thank you for making this, i through i was the only one, so now i can get a side by side, without actually going in game, thanks!
7:54 let's re use this magazine who cares
Lol
The new models are much better than the old ones.
They used to scare me the originals
@@_nom_ I see why, they looks like at first they tried to replicate the looks of the characters from the quake mod, you can see they had the same pillow looking bulletproof jacket and evetything except they added a little more details to the original characters of half life TF.
old engineer was the worst, it was an abomination, that face man...
@@solarwrath1313 It looks much better with the ciggar.
yeah but sadly they don't match with the hitbox
What if one team had the older models and the other had the newer ones? That would diversify the teams a bit more other than red/blue.
Yeah, I have thought about that too
Not gonna ever happen now
There are already Yellow and Green teams in TFC
The single barrel shotgun looks Like a pump shotgun
No shit sherlock,it is
BECAUSE IT IS A PUMP SHOTGUN!
Cuz its a pump action shotgun
Imagine subscribing for HL SFX videos and getting some Tigerfield and Hectorlo knock-off instead. Crazy, right?
is it just me or the classic soldier looks like the hecu marines from hl1
I wonder, does the grenade launcher explode instantly on enemy contact like in TF2?
Yes, but this grenade launcher does have a smaller reach than the one in TF2.
Old Models supremacy
i recall the demo's old model was using the m79 in the worldmodel.
@agent_bolt what kind of sorcery that would fit a 6-shot in a small gun?
This inconsistency in design hurts my head
They probably were going to change the view models as well and never got to it.
6:29 THICC
In TF's lore, the new model of TFC Pyro is a granny.
i wish there were mods to make these new designs more consistent, i wanna see a high detailed version of the new shotgun world models along without both black and white rocket launchers and basically every single model that was incorrect here
i wanna see a half-life esque hd models option that changes weapon view models sometime soon
I like the new models and the engineer my favourite because he helped redman and bluetrch Mann and cool profile 😃😉✊❤️❤️❤️⭐️😃
You mean Redmond and Blutarch, the New TFC engineer didn't help the Mann brothers, his father did, Radigan Conagher who built both and probably the administrator or gray their life extending machines
I always figured the old models were the 1920s mercs and the new ones were the 1930s mercs.
And the game happens in 1940's..
With weapons and tech like that it has to be atleast the 1970s
@@sometf2playerdouble-barreled shotgun is a spas-12. And it was created in 1980s
Though no. The sniper rifle that the sniper had was made after 2000. It seems like at this time
In one picture was talled it's 1930's
Also I think the minigun should be check marked for new and old. Sure there’s a thing on the side and it’s slightly brighter but it’s about the same.
And also the medics super nailgun is about the same as the old model just with a tad bit of upgrades. And same for scout. Even if this is purely just my opinion
Well, it's a minigun, so overall design is bound to be similar. But its viewmodel still uses the old worldmodel's style.
Same with nailguns. New worldmodels are surely upgraded old ones, but designs of viewmodels still doesn't all that much resemble new models.
Like NEW models :)
What song is used in the background? It's great
There are two songs, Vague Voices and Steam in the Pipes, both from Half-Life OST
@@MaxBaik thank you so much
Lol just notice
What in the back of scout eye thingy? Kinda like iluminati :V
Something something scouting the enemy territory and relaying info to the team.
The old models (except spy) have their classes logo on their suit since quake team Fortress. That eye is the scout's one
There's a giftbox model for anniversary
How on earth is a Spas-12 a double-barrel shotgun?
The lower "barrel" is the magazine tube.
Early valve never got that did they
How do I use the old models?
You need to go to the "Multiplayer" options, open "Advanced" and choose "Old TFC models"
Question:
How do you use third person?
Type this in the dev console
Sv_cheats 1
Thirdperson for side view
But if you want other angles type
Cam_idealyaw (0-360)
@@TimI94 thanks
How to be on third person ?
I’m trying to go into thirdperson and it’s not working
I did sv_cheats 1
Sorry for the late reply, hope it's still relevant xD
You need to set "Max. players" value to 0 while creating a local server to allow the game to change POV.
@@MaxBaik it’s fine, I figured it out.
Boot up TFc -> sv_cheats 1 -> start a server -> done 😎
I like a old character is A Serbia army Song
r/youngpeopleyoutube
@@buttermargarine6819 Redditor
What?
How did you use 3rd person? It never works for me
TFC doesn't allow switching to third person since it's a multiplayer game, and that could give you an unfair advantage. You need to set "Max. players" value to 0 to trick the game into thinking this is a singleplayer session.
And don't forget "sv_cheats 1", of course.
@@MaxBaiki can’t it says « maxplayers cannot be changed while a server is running »
@@xOshiageMan You need to do it in the "Create server" menu, "Game" tab
this game is just pure mess. wasn't it made just to show off valve modding tools?
if only grenades were included, then i would love this 10 X more