NEW TORPEDO REVOLVER [15 Joules] LESS LETHAL AIRGUN
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2024
- Today we unbox the Brand New Mercury Rise Torpedo Revolver, or TR50, 15 Joules version - along with its new factory steel pointed darts ammo.
As always we carry out a whole series of tests, from ballistic gel to mannequins, to see how effective this new CO2 powered launcher is, as we also put it side by side with the Original version.
Great visuals, slow morions and good music… all while learning all about this launcher.
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You are right about the disadvantages of CO2. Rapid firing or doing a lot of shots, even in a hot Miami spring day, will result in loss of power. But overall, those are both worthy sub-20 Joule options for Less Lethal defense. Thanks for sharing this new one with us.
Spot on input as always! Reason why everyone should check out your awesome channel my friend! Thank you as always!
Thank you so much for another outstanding video. I have the 11 joule HDR50, and it is very powerful, I made the mistake of shooting it in the house without proper backdrop, and I missed the target and the Aluminum ball went through the wall, with that said, the only thing I like about the Torpedo Revolver is the longer magazine to use longer type ammo. Thank you for bringing such excitement to the arr-gun world! Take care now my friend!
Now that was a cool package! 15j makes it more interesting now. Another great less lethal option for defense, and another excellent video my friend. 👍
Great video as always, i really like the torpedo ammo… Looking forward to the next video 😊
Just the last 2 weeks I was thinking that I miss some of this less lethal content. Nice delivery! :)
Grazie e complimenti per il nuovo test/video! Sei sempre on the spot!!
Grande Stefano!! Sei sempre gentilissimo e ti ringrazio di cuore come sempre! Statti caldo che arrivano le belle giornate tra poco….
I always look forward to my weekend mornings with your videos.
I have the Umarex 7.5 and 11 joule versions, but Im DEFINITELY getting the Mercury Rise 15 joule model.
Thats some decent power for a less lethal option and Im pretty sure theres nothing else out there that powerful.
Another well done video my friend...your the best!
Tr 68 is more powerful than that, up to double the power
I was waiting for this to come out. Thx for the episode
Desperately wishing there was a spring powered version of something like this. Would be slower in terms of follow-up shots, but would solve the freezing problem
"Freezing" is not really a problem in terms of being able to rapidly launch six pepper or riot balls against an attacker. In fact, the Umarex HD shotguns will launch their 16 rounds with no freezeups, no problem! I think Miami was being gracious in offering a hypothesis as to why the new 15j Mercury Rise did not "blow away" the older version in this limited testing. I am quite sure the folks at Mercury Rise are already preparing a response; one that will hopefully involve a rematch involving Miami and the gnomes!
@@MichaelWhite-cx4ho the 'icing problem' (as i like to call it, purely for the sake of making an outdated Marvel reference) is really only one motivation for using a spring. The other being: it's kinda a pain to repeatedly buy more and more non-reusable co2 tanks. Unlimited practice time would be cool
It's Saturday and you're giving my idle hands a devilish idea.
@@sbass4690 well i bloody hope so
Great video, Gian! Happy to see you go back to the type of gun that drew me to the AAlley in the first place. Both guns performed similarly, but your explanation as to why this happened was very interesting. I think what the TR50 does better than the Umarex HDR is that larger magazine; gives you more options.
Really liked your speedy unboxing! 😂
Nice work as always 👍😀
another great video as always. love watching. have a MR 50 that I like and 3 BYRNAs . thinking about getting one of these also.
Thank you for the video! Was there any significant difference earlier in the day in terms of power between old/new launchers? I wonder how this new one compares with the new 13 joule TR50?
Mercury Rise is Definitely on to something. Their Design gives so many Options....and those Darts are Impressive. Wonder what those Darts would do to a coconut ???
If They came out with a 25J version in .68 Cal....it
would be a Game Changer. Good Stuff !
At 25 feet they would likely bounce off a coconut
Umarex if you're listening or in this case reading, we would like to see a new version of a revolver with a deep magazine such as the Mercury rise for us umarex HDR 50 fans. But if size does really matter, I take out my HDs 68 lol!
I really do get a kick out of you playing yourself in your intros, hahaha, even better the accents!
Well I finally made it down here brother, nice place in Jensen Beach, and loving it! One sad thing is my van does not fit in my carport, too tall. So, you know what I did, lol, it is now a 20-foot enclosed shooting range!
Taking cues from the master in Miami!
Oh man. I'm quite interested in those little .50 darts. They do seem to foster accuracy more than round ball. Glad you tested these gadgets.
Great review I have the umerx 50 I can hit my mailbox from my front porch 4 out of six times I’m impressed with it thanks
Haha nice!! And thanks a lot Terry!
Enlargening?? 🤣 Just messin with ya. Great vid, as always.
Nice comparison video.
No deference in power between the 2 guns.
Cododo projectiles are from the best projectiles in the market.
I remember before over a year i bought from Cododo devastator and some of them was big for the mag but was very good ammo👍🏻🇨🇾
Thanks my friend! 🙏🏽🙌🏼
What I like about this one, is the quite long/thick cylinder. Many jist get short ones to only fit round ammo, which kinda is a damn shame..
Agreed my friend!
Great video! I always enjoy them.
I'm torn on which one I want to get. The Mercury or an Umarex??
I like the deeper magazine on the Mercury.
Nice work
wow my brother the measure board under the gel block has never been done before ,that i know , being the modder and awesome inventor i am makes me kindda of jealous ,lol , pure genius my ol friend !!! WOW !!! ......
also another important question , do you saturate the marker with pure 100% silicone oil before shooting . before my testing , i will put in a few drops in before i slip the 12 gram canister in that way i know its well lubricated , have you ever noticed the second shot being more powerful than the first , this happens because of the lubrication, the ammo goes through easier when lubed !!! . FYI , this is not advisable to do in real firearms though , the excess oil or grease in barrel can become an obstruction , and at the very least catch fire and detonate , just like higher powered air guns but worst !!!
in all my years/decades of testing , i never thought one drop of oil on top of co2 powerlet was enough !
i do this for long term storage also , that way mt LTL marker is well lubed and ready for ACTION !!! LOL
what another great show my most awesome brother !!! LOVEYAMAN !!!!
i just contacted them about the shafts , to make em more re-usable , if superglue would hurt them . why not superglue the gaskets to the darts , that way can re-use LOL !!! ..... great show as always my awesome brother , like RUNE REBEL , you are also becoming a meistro in the less lethal world !!! lol .
i have been with ya from the beginning my friend !!!!
Nice! I missed the part with the "gasket" what are they for?
impressive, bro
Il terzo colpo di quelli caricati a polvere, fosse stato peperoncino su un bersaglio biologico umano od animale, lo avrebbe steso malissimo. Le pepper ball calibro 50 comuni sono purtroppo inefficaci il più delle volte: la polvere è poca ed infatti per la hdr hanno fatto il lanciatore sottocanna con dentro la classica bomboletta, molto più funzionale. Ma i silurotti qui son belli pieni, la dispersione su quel colpo è stata veramente eccellente!! Ottimo video come sempre!!
Carissimo Paolo! Ottime osservazioni come sempre amico mio. Hai 100% ragione!
Immagino ti stia preparando per un bel weekend d’avventura primaverile sulle montagne…. o almeno lo spero e te lo auguro!!
Un abbraccione Paolo
please we need a video about how to coock the balistic gel! :) Great Job as usual sir!!!!
Hello my friend!! I actually did one in this video at min 11:38 ua-cam.com/video/lkJ6PBapC8o/v-deo.htmlsi=375Aqn503olnuxBZ :) and thank you as always!!
@@AirgunAlley Legend! now I just need to find one in Italy at this point! :) Thanks so much!
Bella domanda, non so se le vendono in Italia 🤔
There's just something very funny to me about the dummy getting shot by the "pepper" balls and just looking completely unphased and unimpressed. lmao
Cool little gun, good review and testing. I would've liked to see a break in the video between each of the guns' ballistic gel tests though. Like shoot the 6 from the OG, then say "okay let's try the 15 joule model now" rather than just put them all back to back. The results were similar enough I thought you were just blasting with the same gun 12 times lol
The cartridge launchers serve more as a protection when you are out and about and you need a quick getaway. The PCP launchers would serve far better as a home defense tool.
Yeah, Deter, Distract, Delay is what they are best at, as you make a getaway and or evade trouble. I do have the Grimburg Gavle at nearly 40 Joules and a 8g projectile, which I think is a good less lethal home defense option.
Love the gnome skit!
Well, thanks you did it again, I have the first addition and now I will have the new one JUST BECAUSE OF YOU! your killing me Bro
Nice test and comparison as always. I have the 1st torpedo hdr but have serious co2 leak issues that they cannot fix. Have you had any issues like that?
Oh no! So sorry to hear that Scott! Have you brought the issue to Mercury Rise? Were they helpful? They should send you a new one!
Does it sometimes hiss gas after you shoot?
Yes it fires one magazine- on the 2nd one it starts leaking after 1st shot and then empties out. They sent a replacement- same exact issue. I sent out to a tech for inspection/ repairs and it came back after $70 (seals etc) spent- same issue. The customer srvc reps are very nice- but this has been truly a bummer.
Wow Scott! I’m so so sorry! It sounds like they need to send you a 3rd one. I never had that issue. I now have 2 standard versions and a 15 joules one. As you know I shoot them over and over, magazine after magazine, during my filming and I never found this issue in any of them.
And usually if there’s an issue I’M the one to have it ahaha super unlucky!
Anyway, I would see if they could send you another unit
@@AirgunAlley thanks brother- I really appreciate your feedback on this and glad to know they have worked so good for you. Yea , I have seen you run into the many air gun issues that are possible! It helps a lot 😎
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new generation HDR can we do all same thing whan the first edition?
I would like to also see Umarex HDR50 Make same magazines type of Gun. I like this wider magazine
Right??!! They’ll probably catch on sooner or later….
excellent video and testing,
the torpedo powder are impressive that would definitely stop someone with a face full of that if it was the pepper 🌶 ones 🏴🇺🇲😎👍
Hello, I just have a question is hdr 50 effective for home intruders
Alright mate 👍 great vid back to your roots sucks that I can't get that pistol over here have looked this country is such a fun sponge when it comes to stuff like that can't have automatic can't have pepper balls . 😂 don't have to worry to much about this gasses expending here to make it more powerfull lucky if it gets to 15 degrees . As always keep up the great work mate 👍 look forward to the next vid
Hahahaha nope, the only gasses that expand in the UK are the ones that come from too much beer at the pub bahahahahaha!
Als always thank you so much my mate! I hope you get to enjoy those 15 degrees soon 🙏🏽🙏🏽
I think the LTL bravo needs a new test mine has this thing with CO2 some don't fit right go through a whole box and screw it all the way if the last but if screwing is spongy it's not a good one if the last turn is crisp it seals perfect at least test it out let my know if its nit just me but i think thats why yours had that hicupp
The LTL Charlie will be out this summer and they've made several changes to increase power and speed as well as loading.
I think the Tr 50 is better than the HDR 50 with it's longer magazine and safety feature however I know the HDR 50 can be pimped up to over 20 joules with that being said I no longer prefer Co2 for less lethal home defence I converted my Tiberius T8.1 to Hpa thanks for sharing 👍
I think that 15 joules is just there new packaging box on the new batches, it's between 11 and 17joules ob original depending on amo temperatures, sometimes the hdr 50 revolver is faster then torpedo revolver and sometimes the same, they both you can call 15 joules average i guess!
😎а я думал с дротиками будет полностью отстрел... мало, может ещё будет? В тыкву не стреляли, кокос тоже остался не застрелен, даже фанерку и то не дротиками дырявили 🧐
Mercury Rise is sold out of the 15 joule version. They expect stock ready to ship in July. Anyone have other vendors?
After seeing the gel test, the chrony test did exactly as I expected. There was no appreciable difference in both tests.
How compared to Byrna LE ?
One way to weigh really light items on a scale close to it's ability and for additional data. Weigh something like 10, easy math with 10. Haha
That way it gets the scale into a better accuracy range and the idea of the "standard deviation" 😂
I need to get like 20 of them for around my property to keep the coyotes off the property
👍😉🇳🇱 have a great weekend
Same to you my friend!!! Thank you
I prefer more lethal rather than less lethal when it comes to home defense, but I understand that not everyone has that option for one reason or another.
A disclaimer does need to be made that even though it may be legal to own these, it may not be legal to use the more lethal projectiles, as such, it is likely going to be cheaper to ask a lawyer ahead of time than hire a lawyer should the police/DA decide that even though it was legal for you to own these guns, it is not legal for you to fire some of these projectiles at a human, even if it's a criminal breaking into your home.
There is another challenge with these guns for self-defense - they look like toys. This means that a criminal is more likely to call your bluff and force you to shoot him, which also means that checking with a lawyer ahead of time is VERY important.
Hmm, you know what - if you can afford to, do an interview with a criminal defense lawyer or a gun rights one and see what sort of input they provide - that would make a good video.
If you can't afford it, then reach out to the various UA-cam lawyers and see if one of them would be interested in doing a compilation video with you - I will recommend Tom Grieve as he focuses on gun rights and might find this interesting enough to say yes.
Pepper balls - should test those on ballistic gel with some cloth over it as humans aren't as hard as a plastic manakin, meaning they might simply bounce off rather than burst.
Should have done the chrono on the darts, or also done them, since I'm sure that's the ammo most folks interested in these guns are going to use.
I'm thinking you also should have done a meat target with the darts - maybe a chuck or rump roast with a cheap tee shirt over it - just something cheap so that we can see how they penetrate meat since clear ballistic gel does NOT simulate human tissue, instead, it's only purpose is to allow you to see wound cavities and other effects the projectiles create.
In fact, you should probably add a meat target to all of the videos for air guns which are intended for anything other than knocking soda cans down - adding ten to twenty bucks to the cost of each video shouldn't hurt.
Do you hunt?
If so, then set up a Patreon channel as well so you can add hunting videos as well as earn a few extra bucks as while you have been given/loaned some nice guns, the ones you're buying are not cheap.
Otherwise, keep up the good work!
Hi Sean, as always thanks for your well thought input.
I do put a disclaimer in every video which basically invites everyone who watches and is interested in owning/shooting the products they see - to check their local laws.
As for the ballistic gel, I disagree with you. Ballistic gel does indeed resemble human tissue, like muscle, and on top of that it also gives you the nice wound channels and expansion visual effects.
I would probably lose more viewers than gaining them if I used pieces of meat in my videos, or maybe not. Regardless, it’s not my style.
And no I don’t hunt. Quite the contrary, my dream is to raise enough money with UA-cam to create wildlife sanctuaries…. but, that’s a whole different story ;)
Oh and I appreciate the lawyer idea! It’s a great one. The thing is that A) laws change almost by the county, not even by State! And B) airguns are such a gray area, I think it would be nearly impossible to give out any sort of information that would be universally practical and helpful
@@AirgunAlley FBI standard ballistic gel, yes - not clear gel though - that's purely for showing bullet impacts.
Wasn't suggesting ditching the gel, instead, just adding meat - Paul Harrell, the god of guntubers, uses meat targets and no one complains.
If you want to create a wildlife sanctuary then you're going to have to either learn to hunt or pay people to hunt for you because wildlife management and population control requires hunting.
Perfect example was Rosetree Park when I lived in Pennsylvania - they had an annual deer hunt until folks who opposed hunting stopped it.
With no hunters or natural predators to keep the deer in check, the population exploded, so it was only a surprise to the folks who banned the hunt that the first harsh winter killed 9 out of 10 deer in the park due to starvation.
Hunting in the US isn't like Europe - here we mostly hunt for food - back in Pennsylvania as a kid, it was the norm for our family to eat wild game for two to three months out of the year as dad harvested deer, turkey, pheasant, ducks, geese, rabbits and hogs.
While I don't get to hunt down here as much as I'd like to, I can fish and fish the wife and I catch are our protein for upwards of a week at a time when they're biting.
Florida's wild hogs are delicious too and you don't need a permit or license to harvest them, so next time you're in the Everglades with a larger caliber air gun, should you see one, put a slug through his head, make sure to at least remove the organs, stuff a few bags of ice into him and then find a butcher so you and your family can enjoy the best pork you've ever eaten.
@@AirgunAlley No way of knowing without actually asking one, plus, he can likely at least give general advice in addition to regional.
Lawyers do pay attention to legal things outside of their area since they could leak over and affect them and I can't imagine that there haven't been quite a few instances of folks using air guns for self-defense under a whole host of circumstances and legal situations, so at the very least the lawyer could share "Well in case X in state Y this happened..."
Remember, while people do appreciate consistency, there are only so many air guns and things you can shoot with them before things start getting monotonous, hence the reason you want to include videos on related things.
Like when you shared what it takes to get started with the pump and back up cylinder - that actually deserves its own video so that folks can go back and reference and share it with others without having to try to remember exactly what video it was sandwiched in the middle of.
Do some tests of different air pumps and back up cylinders as well so that you can officially recommend a best cheapest and best overall.
Same thing when the gun blew up on you - here's what went wrong and here's how to prevent it - that's another good video.
Air gun maintenance/cleaning and if it doesn't violate youtube standards, how to "tune" them and adjust the PSI output.
How's about a DIY home range video - show us how you keep from shooting your neighbor's dog and breaking their windows.
Test different sorts of plywood and other materials for use in backstops.
Score yourself some air gun targets and review them for us so we know what ones work and don't work, how fun they are to shoot and maybe we don't even know they're out there.
And on that topic, do some research on Tannerite - nothing like a garden gnome packed with a pound of the stuff blowing up to gain some clicks - just watch some videos of Tannerite going wrong first so that you don't hurt yourself.
Remember, while you do want to stick to your focus on air guns, you can still do related videos like the suggestions above, along with other stuff which I might not know to suggest due to not being as deep into the hobby as you are.
Io comunque, vivessi negli usa, col piffero che rischierei di far incazzare un aggressore con questi semigiocattoli: senza andare sulle armi da fuoco, opterei per qualche pcp che ho già visto nel tuo canale. Saluti dalla Grecia
The Mercury Rise is a pepper Ball launcher. The large 'torpedoes" pepper balls are its best use. Kinetic balls .. not. Thanks for covering the wide gambit of gas powered devices.
You know. You keep pointing them gus our way you'll shoot one of our eyes out. Lol. Great gun. But. How is it vierses that gun compared to the burna ungun
Have you ever thought of trying to get and try out a reproduction Girardoni air rifle?
I cannot understand the manufacturer's reasoning regarding the puny +4 J increase in kinetic energy (after seeing the chrono test - the real life difference is 1-2 J???)?!
If this is not related to some legal boundary, this second version should have, at least, 30 J (30 J will pierce pepper balls regardless of the surface you shoot, i.e., a soft winter jacket).
If I take my research into consideration, the minimal kinetic energy necessary to stop the majority of (human) attacks with the KINETIC round is 40 J. Police use 60-80 J (riot balls: rubber on the metal in.68 cal.). I wonder why people who are paying the very same police cannot legally own something similar? Well, I think we all know the answer to that question...
Hence the word 'Police'. And i agree, since most of us have guns more powerful than the police anyway, but since anything for the 'police' is regulated and controlled, you can see the issue as to why that level has not been reached. The nail that sticks out, gets hammered.
P.S. Umarex TR50 upgraded barrel and valve along with the Devastator rounds is a very good package. Shoot to damage, not to pepper or tickle.
I think they simply were trying to make it more powerful than the HDR 50. That was the main aim. But I’m sure they’ll all work towards making these things stronger and stronger…
@@AirgunAlley Yes, but they have, unfortunately, failed. 4 Joul difference is nothing. Successful self-defense with kinetic rounds requires at least 40 J of energy. The police use.68 cal, 60-80 J launchers. I would like to see, at least, a 40 J affordable launcher (under 250 USD) in .50 or .68 cal. Heck, this is a great tip for the manufacturer what we like to see and own!
Cheers!
@@Hebesgugl oh I totally agree with you! However there is another factor that must be considered: (strangely) in Europe each country has its own limits in regulating these things. Most countries don’t allow anything higher than 7,5 joules. Others I think it’s 16 joules.
That’s why it’s hard for them to market anything stronger. Those would only sell in the US, a country where most people are like “why buy a 40j airgun when I can buy a real gun….”
This is why I think they try to raise the bar joule by joule 😂
Yeah, I'm aware of it!
I'm from Croatia, and we don't have any limitations (yet) on air/CO2 launchers. My point was that the people are fooling themselves into thinking they could defend themselves with 10-15 J launchers.
Using pepper balls could do the trick, but those are highly unreliable (regarding the effect on humans, especially those under the influence), and they are only viable for outdoor use.
The tyrannical governments are very keen to limit the defense capabilities of its people who are paying their fat salaries!
That's why the US Gov. is now saying that ILLEGAL immigrants could buy a gun just like a regular US citizen could!!!
That tells me that we need to prepare to defend our loved ones with everything we can get! Best!
use a leg of pork with skin to simulate hitting a person
So basically both the new and the old, along with the Umarex HD50 are trash from the factory. They're only worth a damn when heavily modified.
Hey my man...what is your email? I have some shaped projectile prototypes that I created for the hdr50 and 68, that I want to send you to test.
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