And Byrna has officially told me that the numbers on this one are "Good Enough" for them. So, the S2 for sure wins. They agree that this is as powerful as there's needs to be even though they also agree that it is under what they advertise They apparently are now saying that they give themselves leeway
@@BrilloHead Agreed, but if they advertise a number, then it should meet that number, not less than half of it😂 I've never complained about a HD or an SD and they are weak but they actually do what they're advertised to do. Only the LE that you sent me has done what it's supposed to do but all the ones they have sent me have not
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallistics Well I'm glad that my LE worked out for you brother. In all honesty, you deserve a legit product that performs the way it is supposed to for the money paid and nothing less.
Just received my S2 about an hour ago.. I am blown away by the power. Went out back & shot the 6 practice rounds at a thick aluminum plate & they dented it. I can imagine what the 7.7g aluminum rounds are going to do when they get here tomorrow!
Just priced 2 S2s, 10-pack Co2, and 18 kinetic rounds for less than the price of 1 LE!!! (Salt Supply offers free shipping and no tax) lol Once word gets out byrna is done. Sell your byrna stock now 🤣
I think the value goes deeper than that. The salt might be a lil more consistent, but I’d rather not walk around with a fake looking airsoft looking gun, I’d much rather my launcher look legit like a real firearm.
Also you have to consider the quality, longevity, and reliability of both of these launchers. It's clear which one is more trusted by law enforcement@@Onthewayupp
@@Onthewayupp Amen the salt gun looks fake, and then you have to hit the bottom to perice your co2 cartridge, I will stick with my byrna because i dont wanna kill someone just wound them. And the byrna looks SEXY !!!
Yep, I think Byrna has a serious competitor in the less lethal market. They should make a 30 J version of their LE, but I just doubt that will ever happen.
@@joeykristopher dkspencercustomkinetics.com/shop/ols/products/grimburg-gavle-42-joules-with-light-and-co2 Or the Mercury Rise are better options than either
@@Daniel-hr5hc You’re welcome, going to try a Grimburg gavel, haven’t seen anything bad about those yet. Don’t care for the 2 hand charging but looks like it delivers a lot more force and consistent output. Good luck with whatever you choose.
He brother, I knew you would be a S2 fan once you got one. The LE seemed to be a launcher built with left over parts and expected to be the Super go to launcher. Look how much time between the S1 and S2. Salt Supply took their time and got it right.
The SD is decent The LE is just a disappointment when many of them are actually weaker than an SD or at the very least only a couple of joules stronger
Thanks for the video. As for your laser sight, would you recommend the Olight that you have over the LaserMax Flashlight & Laser Sight Combo that's listed on Salt Supply's site?
Thanks for the video. I just got a new replacement LE as well and a bunch of free stuff that I am thankful for (after three repairs) but don’t have a chrono to verify fps/joule output😳. The S2 is so much more consistent at half the price:(.
Idk about anyone else… but for me, I prefer the byrna for the simple fact it looks just like a firearm. There is a mag, in the proper location, and doesn’t have a weird knob on the bottom. IMO if someone sees that knob on the bottom where the mag is supposed to go, they’re going to know it isn’t real, and it could change the situation very drastically.
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallistics but let’s be honest here…. Even if they are just a tad weaker…. You get hit by the byrna its going to hurt like hell either way, just imagine taking a kinetic round to the eye or really anywhere in the face
Is it possible the after market compensator improved the LE? Wouldn’t make sense because it appears to be cosmetic but why would WU’s LE be so much more consistent?
The one I got from him was hitting the same numbers before any mods. And no, the barrel comes to the end of the compensator so there's no way it could really change the performance. I would argue that the 12 g adapter did but I know that testing it before I put it on didn't change anything when I did
I fired my LE for the first time today and although I don’t have a chrono it was noticeably losing power as I continued to fire the magazine. After changing to a second magazine I could see the kinetic rounds slowing down, it was easier to see them traveling down range versus the first few rounds. Must be design aspects that don’t allow the launcher to regulate CO2 and shoot consistent numbers. Wish I’d seen your video before spending so much money. Thanks for posting though and thanks for staying on top of this.
I didn't have money to upgrade to the mercy last lethal adapter . I would appreciate it and it would be nice if you could send me one . I believe that the mercy Leslie to adapter will feel better and hit harder
The S2 is better in reality. My last LE averages 12 joules while the S2 was 19. The adapter just gives more shots in the SD or HD, no change in the LE other than making under barrel accessories fit correctly instead of to low. The SD and HD are only 10 joules, so half the LE. Some LEs are like 24, but I saw that in 1 out of 4 I had. The LE is hit or miss and I even had one that was only 8 joules, lol
You should watch some more of my videos instead of just leaving negative comments on everything. If you watch the rest of the videos in this series you would see exactly what the problem was and how would I adjust the S2? I've never opened mine up and there's no external adjustment. This was absolutely an honest comparison just like the other videos like this I've done. I'm very well established in the community as a very honest person. I literally have over 1700 Less Lethal videos I know they're all too long for your attention span since you keep leaving comments telling me to edit all of them You watch to make them shorter. Then the next guy would come around saying why did you cut out so much were you hiding something 😂😂
What's actually really ironic about what you're saying is if you watch the rest of them you would see that the LE was the one that was pre-adjusted multiple times by the factory and this was the third one they sent after telling me they had pre-checked it by two different people The salt was just like it came out of the box so it's exactly opposite of what you think you know
Yeah but you have to realize if you watch some of the other videos I have in this series one of the ones they sent me was only eight joules! Yeah the LE looks more like something real and functions more like something real but when it's 12 joules weaker When it's supposed to be around four joules stronger than the S2, there's a problem.
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallisticsthis right here. I truly wanted to like the byrna even with the high price but for the lack of reliability? Fk no. To the halfbaked product launchers: We got lives to protect and no, not all of us are animals who are short sighted and need to see "red". Whoever makes a small cc that is as simple and powerful = market domination Thank me later.
@@jameslitsey2512 Yeah, FSC's are still kind of oversized even when they don't have a long barrel sticking out. Only thing that's going for the new Sabre is the low price. I did notice a lot of the reviews were from female buyers, which I find rather amusing since this tends to be a male hobby after all.
Mannnn I just bought a Byrna that’s getting delivered in a couple hours cause I got CHASED the other day pretty bad and don’t feel safe anymore and I really wish I saw this first 😭
I’m going to buy the S2. My Byrna LE and SD both failed. They were repaired, and still failed. No reliably whatsoever. Byrna promotes itself well, but the product was awful, from my experience.
I’m done with Byrna. I could write a book. The LE was a disaster, and the SD was terrible. I’m hoping to get my money back. Looking at the S2 with optimism.
Good luck, They just completely started ignoring my emails after telling me I wasn't getting my money back because I didn't buy it directly from them even though I did buy it from and authorized dealer
I said the 2nd time I shot the LE out the box it was a piece of crap. I am supposed to depend on it . I want a refund false advertisement. Love the S1,but the S2 seems too big for everyday carry. Might buy one. But paying a real gun wouldn't be a waste of money.
Speaking of real guns, I like the Pietta 1851 Navy that DK sent me. It's black powder but still very powerful. Must wear hearing protection before I shoot it.
@@BrilloHead this case, instead of returning the LE for S2 I may go for the SD. Smaller than the two and still have similar controls in familiar places. Main thing for me is reliability and consistency. Portability/able to conceal
if someone has an extra $500 bucks i will take a brand new umarex hdp.50 , redo all internal perfectly which takes 1 to 2 weeks , take out valve block , put in power hd-24 firing pin , add a 2 piece steel tuning barrel and sniper extension , dye the orange slide black , put a hogue grip on handle , it will get 38 to 43 joules with just 12 gram co2 ,,,,, and guarantee it for life,,, yeah i will repair it for as long as i live, if it ever needs it ,,,,,,which i seriously doubt , , lol lmao and all of this for the price of a over rated , cosmetically correct but very weak and chitty guarantee byrna le , the LE stands for what i personally have coined the phrase " LESS EFFECTIVE " LOL < LMMFAO !!!! $500 dollars , $ 500 phuckin dollarz for a less lethal that you can use as a side arm in paintball wars and games !!!! people can buy real firearms shooting real bullets for that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , as you say , GOOD-TIMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only reason why i went with byrna is because of that dumbass knob on the bottom of the rest... Byrna looks real...everything else looks real until you conceal it and you got this happy 2 inch power deck sticking out of your shirt
😮 if you didnt make a video know one would believe you 😂 Disappointing to say the least. I just finished my LE mod video today. Salt killed your Byrna!
@@jameslitsey2512The LE performs very well after the mod but the bottom line is it shouldn’t be required when paying top dollar for a launcher. I meant his Salt killed his Byrna not mine. 😁 Fixed
@@jameslitsey2512Salt seems to be a solid performer and from the group photos i have seen it is such a simplistic design inside that should bode well for reliability.
The trigger is solid, the body is solid, the safety is super solid. Size is the only downside of it I can see, other than it would be nice if the controls were more familiar. Not much out there with a front loading mag other than this. At least the safety is in the right place, maybe not the most rightest place, but stills
That was a one panner, I have a wall full that will go through that, lol. But yeah, I have FSCs that will go through 3 pans, I could cut one way down and penetrate a one panner easy
Thank you for making this great comparison video! You're helping a lot of people make an informed decision on which less lethals to get.
And Byrna has officially told me that the numbers on this one are "Good Enough" for them. So, the S2 for sure wins. They agree that this is as powerful as there's needs to be even though they also agree that it is under what they advertise They apparently are now saying that they give themselves leeway
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallistics Their goal is not about making a pistol with the most power despite that being exactly what the customers want.
@@BrilloHead Agreed, but if they advertise a number, then it should meet that number, not less than half of it😂 I've never complained about a HD or an SD and they are weak but they actually do what they're advertised to do. Only the LE that you sent me has done what it's supposed to do but all the ones they have sent me have not
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallistics Well I'm glad that my LE worked out for you brother. In all honesty, you deserve a legit product that performs the way it is supposed to for the money paid and nothing less.
@@BrilloHead Thanks brother
Just received my S2 about an hour ago.. I am blown away by the power. Went out back & shot the 6 practice rounds at a thick aluminum plate & they dented it. I can imagine what the 7.7g aluminum rounds are going to do when they get here tomorrow!
Byrna dents sheet metal as well... Just not as well
@@choule90 yeah they’re both good.. all that matters is how good it dents a threat/attacker
I FEEL SO RIPPED OFF WITH MY BYRNA RIGHT NOW!! THE SALT SUPPLY IS HALF THE FREAKIN PRICE!!!!!
Just priced 2 S2s, 10-pack Co2, and 18 kinetic rounds for less than the price of 1 LE!!! (Salt Supply offers free shipping and no tax) lol
Once word gets out byrna is done. Sell your byrna stock now 🤣
agreed I feel like I was robbed I should of got the salt
I think the value goes deeper than that. The salt might be a lil more consistent, but I’d rather not walk around with a fake looking airsoft looking gun, I’d much rather my launcher look legit like a real firearm.
Also you have to consider the quality, longevity, and reliability of both of these launchers. It's clear which one is more trusted by law enforcement@@Onthewayupp
@@Onthewayupp Amen the salt gun looks fake, and then you have to hit the bottom to perice your co2 cartridge, I will stick with my byrna because i dont wanna kill someone just wound them. And the byrna looks SEXY !!!
Looks like Byrna is going down down down
The LE has problems. The SS is better
Salt2 gun was pre inspected and pre-
adjusted just for this test.
Byrna gun did get this special attention.
Is this an honest comparison?
@@billrundell2097 I sent mine out came back great?
I love the channel brother. Keep doing what you’re doing. I actually learned a lot and those Chuck Norris jokes in the beginning always kill me.💯💯💯👍
Thank you sir!
Great video. Byrna must really step up their game. Especially for the price they are charging people. It’s a sin
Yep, I think Byrna has a serious competitor in the less lethal market. They should make a 30 J version of their LE, but I just doubt that will ever happen.
Would hit at 15 if they did, lol
Just because of this video in my hatred for buyrner I just bought the salt s2
Thanks for this comparison video! Its a real eye opener. Salt 2 is a lot more reasonable on top of much better performance. I think i need one!.
I am still very happy with mine
Thanks for the review, definitely would get the salt s2. Gonna need it for convenience store safety👍🏻
@@joeykristopher dkspencercustomkinetics.com/shop/ols/products/grimburg-gavle-42-joules-with-light-and-co2
Or the Mercury Rise are better options than either
Byrna burned me as well and lost a customer for life. Plenty of other companies that actually sell reliable products that do what they say they will.
They won't even return my emails now. Very unprofessional. Guess I'll just keep making videos showing how bad their products are 😂
I'll never buy from. Them and I was that close to order thank for info
@@Daniel-hr5hc You’re welcome, going to try a Grimburg gavel, haven’t seen anything bad about those yet. Don’t care for the 2 hand charging but looks like it delivers a lot more force and consistent output. Good luck with whatever you choose.
Love the channel. Why is Byrna doing this to themselves w the replies?
He brother, I knew you would be a S2 fan once you got one. The LE seemed to be a launcher built with left over parts and expected to be the Super go to launcher. Look how much time between the S1 and S2. Salt Supply took their time and got it right.
Yep, and seem to be great people to deal with.
I do have the byrna SD I do believe it is strong enough to do its job I will continue to use it, but I did just order one of these salt supply S2.
The SD is decent The LE is just a disappointment when many of them are actually weaker than an SD or at the very least only a couple of joules stronger
Thanks for the video. As for your laser sight, would you recommend the Olight that you have over the LaserMax Flashlight & Laser Sight Combo that's listed on Salt Supply's site?
I would, but I am just very used to these and have probably had close to 30 of them I've used on builds and they are great
Great video. Love my S2. The only thing I like about Byrna is the way it pierces the CO2. It's not worth the price they charge.
Byrna is just more intuitive than the S2.
I will for sure agree with that. Nice to have all the controls in the familiar places, lol
That's what she said🫠🫠
@@edgefinesse4700 Nasty!
@@BrilloHeadunfortunately, it may not be as reliable and consistent.
Another one for the Salt Supply 👍
Thanks for the video. I just got a new replacement LE as well and a bunch of free stuff that I am thankful for (after three repairs) but don’t have a chrono to verify fps/joule output😳. The S2 is so much more consistent at half the price:(.
3 repairs? That is not good. Explain?
@@MultiSkyman1valve or other issues of some sort repeatedly confirmed with the LE. Moved on to buy another company’s products.
Idk about anyone else… but for me, I prefer the byrna for the simple fact it looks just like a firearm. There is a mag, in the proper location, and doesn’t have a weird knob on the bottom. IMO if someone sees that knob on the bottom where the mag is supposed to go, they’re going to know it isn’t real, and it could change the situation very drastically.
That does give it points for sure. I love my SD and HD, they perform as advertised, even if a bit weak for much good use
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallistics but let’s be honest here…. Even if they are just a tad weaker…. You get hit by the byrna its going to hurt like hell either way, just imagine taking a kinetic round to the eye or really anywhere in the face
You can get an adapter that fits the bottom of the grip. Makes piercing the co2 easier
@@nhuttsakk9317 what's the name of it?
Is it possible the after market compensator improved the LE? Wouldn’t make sense because it appears to be cosmetic but why would WU’s LE be so much more consistent?
The one I got from him was hitting the same numbers before any mods. And no, the barrel comes to the end of the compensator so there's no way it could really change the performance. I would argue that the 12 g adapter did but I know that testing it before I put it on didn't change anything when I did
I fired my LE for the first time today and although I don’t have a chrono it was noticeably losing power as I continued to fire the magazine.
After changing to a second magazine I could see the kinetic rounds slowing down, it was easier to see them traveling down range versus the first few rounds.
Must be design aspects that don’t allow the launcher to regulate CO2 and shoot consistent numbers.
Wish I’d seen your video before spending so much money. Thanks for posting though and thanks for staying on top of this.
Are there any easy mods for better power on the S2? Just curious.
Stand by for that, nothing to tell yet, lol
I didn't have money to upgrade to the mercy last lethal adapter . I would appreciate it and it would be nice if you could send me one . I believe that the mercy Leslie to adapter will feel better and hit harder
I need one more myself, lol.
How does the Byrna with the Mercy Less Lethal 12g adapter compare to the S2? Thanks
The S2 is better in reality. My last LE averages 12 joules while the S2 was 19. The adapter just gives more shots in the SD or HD, no change in the LE other than making under barrel accessories fit correctly instead of to low. The SD and HD are only 10 joules, so half the LE. Some LEs are like 24, but I saw that in 1 out of 4 I had. The LE is hit or miss and I even had one that was only 8 joules, lol
I have the old Byrna HD. It's just as powerful as the LE after the first shot. Going to buy t he S2.
😂😂😂 please keep up the videos. You are soo right.
Salt2 gun was pre inspected and pre-
adjusted just for this test.
Byrna gun did get this special attention.
Is this an honest comparison?
You should watch some more of my videos instead of just leaving negative comments on everything. If you watch the rest of the videos in this series you would see exactly what the problem was and how would I adjust the S2? I've never opened mine up and there's no external adjustment. This was absolutely an honest comparison just like the other videos like this I've done. I'm very well established in the community as a very honest person. I literally have over 1700 Less Lethal videos I know they're all too long for your attention span since you keep leaving comments telling me to edit all of them You watch to make them shorter. Then the next guy would come around saying why did you cut out so much were you hiding something 😂😂
What's actually really ironic about what you're saying is if you watch the rest of them you would see that the LE was the one that was pre-adjusted multiple times by the factory and this was the third one they sent after telling me they had pre-checked it by two different people The salt was just like it came out of the box so it's exactly opposite of what you think you know
hi can you show me info on S2 with MAX Modificatioins need home pertection but unable to get real fire arm
Check out the channel Less Lethal For Dummies, my buddy Sean is the man on these. I've not even took mine apart yet.
Thanks for your video! You convinced me to buy a Salt S2! Just got it on order!
Does the s2 fit byrna holsters you think
It do not
The only thing I like about the Byrna is that it doesn't have the push-to-pierce system that Umarex and SS have.
Yeah but you have to realize if you watch some of the other videos I have in this series one of the ones they sent me was only eight joules! Yeah the LE looks more like something real and functions more like something real but when it's 12 joules weaker When it's supposed to be around four joules stronger than the S2, there's a problem.
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallisticsthis right here.
I truly wanted to like the byrna even with the high price
but for the lack of reliability? Fk no.
To the halfbaked product launchers:
We got lives to protect and no, not all of us are animals who are short sighted and need to see "red".
Whoever makes a small cc that is as simple and powerful = market domination
Thank me later.
Another launcher that might be worth looking into is the new Sabre selling at under $150.
You mean the S2?
@@jameslitsey2512 How big is it? If it's an oversized pistol like their original Sabre, then there's no point.
@@jameslitsey2512 Yeah, FSC's are still kind of oversized even when they don't have a long barrel sticking out. Only thing that's going for the new Sabre is the low price. I did notice a lot of the reviews were from female buyers, which I find rather amusing since this tends to be a male hobby after all.
The MUB50 .50 cal has good power out of the box too and it’s cheap.
well this deffinetely answers my question! haha
Mannnn I just bought a Byrna that’s getting delivered in a couple hours cause I got CHASED the other day pretty bad and don’t feel safe anymore and I really wish I saw this first 😭
Send it back
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallistics ugh I got mine on amazon and it says “Non-returnable due to hazmat safety reasons”
@@Hamster-mr7ht Oh wow, that's some BS bro. That freaking sucks
@@Hamster-mr7htif its defective they have to refund you
I’m going to buy the S2. My Byrna LE and SD both failed. They were repaired, and still failed. No reliably whatsoever. Byrna promotes itself well, but the product was awful, from my experience.
@@paulcolaneri7794 💯
I'll Fold CHUCK NORRIS LIKE A ORIGAMI 💯
I’m done with Byrna. I could write a book. The LE was a disaster, and the SD was terrible. I’m hoping to get my money back. Looking at the S2 with optimism.
Good luck, They just completely started ignoring my emails after telling me I wasn't getting my money back because I didn't buy it directly from them even though I did buy it from and authorized dealer
👍👍👍
I said the 2nd time I shot the LE out the box it was a piece of crap. I am supposed to depend on it . I want a refund false advertisement. Love the S1,but the S2 seems too big for everyday carry. Might buy one. But paying a real gun wouldn't be a waste of money.
Speaking of real guns, I like the Pietta 1851 Navy that DK sent me. It's black powder but still very powerful. Must wear hearing protection before I shoot it.
Seems like the LE is garbage. I'm sticking to my Byrna SD 8gm launcher
With that kind of performance, you should just get a Byrna SD instead rather than the LE. 🤦♂
Well, for the size difference, too. Why have the bulk if it don't help more than that
But is the SD more reliable than the LE
@@AugustDavinDeepson Yep. Just about everyone in less lethal has come to that very same conclusion as you have pointed out.
@@BrilloHead this case, instead of returning the LE for S2 I may go for the SD.
Smaller than the two and still have similar controls in familiar places.
Main thing for me is reliability and consistency.
Portability/able to conceal
@@AugustDavinDeepson Make sure to stock up on 8 gram CO2 cause that is what your SD runs on, not your typical 12 gram CO2.
10 joules out of a $500 launcher is pathetic.
@@brr8888 Yeah it is.
Don't do this if you want to reuse your ammo
@@choule90 😂
if someone has an extra $500 bucks i will take a brand new umarex hdp.50 , redo all internal perfectly which takes 1 to 2 weeks , take out valve block , put in power hd-24 firing pin , add a 2 piece steel tuning barrel and sniper extension , dye the orange slide black , put a hogue grip on handle , it will get 38 to 43 joules with just 12 gram co2 ,,,,, and guarantee it for life,,, yeah i will repair it for as long as i live, if it ever needs it ,,,,,,which i seriously doubt , , lol lmao and all of this for the price of a over rated , cosmetically correct but very weak and chitty guarantee byrna le , the LE stands for what i personally have coined the phrase " LESS EFFECTIVE " LOL < LMMFAO !!!! $500 dollars , $ 500 phuckin dollarz for a less lethal that you can use as a side arm in paintball wars and games !!!!
people can buy real firearms shooting real bullets for that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , as you say , GOOD-TIMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Mercury Rise MUB 50 is stronger and costs under $120
The only reason why i went with byrna is because of that dumbass knob on the bottom of the rest... Byrna looks real...everything else looks real until you conceal it and you got this happy 2 inch power deck sticking out of your shirt
@@choule90 That's true
😮 if you didnt make a video know one would believe you 😂
Disappointing to say the least. I just finished my LE mod video today.
Salt killed your Byrna!
@@jameslitsey2512The LE performs very well after the mod but the bottom line is it shouldn’t be required when paying top dollar for a launcher.
I meant his Salt killed his Byrna not mine. 😁
Fixed
@@jameslitsey2512Salt seems to be a solid performer and from the group photos i have seen it is such a simplistic design inside that should bode well for reliability.
Lost shaker of Salt, Salt, Salt
The trigger is solid, the body is solid, the safety is super solid. Size is the only downside of it I can see, other than it would be nice if the controls were more familiar. Not much out there with a front loading mag other than this. At least the safety is in the right place, maybe not the most rightest place, but stills
Fsc would go through
I bet it would. Only competitor to the FSC is a Gavle.
That was a one panner, I have a wall full that will go through that, lol. But yeah, I have FSCs that will go through 3 pans, I could cut one way down and penetrate a one panner easy
I'm getting a Gavle, I need to try one for the channel for sure
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallistics Ah, but the Gavle requires threaded CO2 cartridges.
@@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallisticsawesome have you gotten it yet?
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Yeah, that's what I said😂
S2 is the way to go….nut you might need to see a shrink!
I have seen nothing but bad interviews on these burner products thanks for being honest!!! ☺️
Always. Like I told them when this whole fiasco first started I was going to be completely transparent either way and they cared for a while, lol
😎Spank🖐🖐🖐😂
Hard, lol