HDR 50 vs Ballistic Dummy
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2023
- As you know Umarex calls its T4E series “Home Defense… launchers”
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so the spikes penetrated directly?
As a person with a bullshit felony this is a must for home defense without getting jammed up for protecting you and yours!
Hopefully the air gun industry will one day start making lethal self protection weapons that can go toe to toe with a firearm at close range. Our forefathers did it with the girandoni air rifle so I don't see why a company couldn't do it now.
@@lolk4530 Then they'll be lumped in with firearms and the leftists will take them away.
absolutely. good loophole. I carry mine every single day with devastators, 3 loads, and 4 c02s. Los Angeles. Only aim for the face or eyes. Creates major shock trauma.
@@EDIFYTILLIDIE I got some wolf ammo killer hornets pretty gnar. You had any real experience with yours yet?
@@joeyhobbs6034 as far as internet storytelling goes I’d just recommend always have a fresh c02, never pin it until you need to, and aim for the face. No matter how close you are. If you want to see what devastators do IRL some idiot on UA-cam offered his leg as a target… deep puncture, bearing had to be dug out. Still, aim for the face.
If an air gun was good enough for the Lewis & Clark expedition in 1804, the modern ones are worth a closer look.👍🏼
I'm a convicted felon from a fight resulting in serious bodily injury 7 years ago, so I'm always looking for alternatives for home defense. I went with the option that was good enough for Wild Bill Hickock, a replica 1851 Navy black powder revolver.
they also had firearms but the Giradoni could fire lead balls on repeat with a muzzle velocity of 1000 fps.
modern big bore air rifles can take big game but theres a big difference between indians with bows and arrows and armed scumbags.
The Lewis and Clark's. air rifle out perform black powder guns made at that time.
Could fire about as fast as a bolt action too. 20 rounds. So I guess its "high capacity" though it's not a magazine but a tube.
That Lewis and Clark gun was made by the Dutch and had tech way ahead of its time. Like Schrader valves, before Schrader. The air tank was cast iron but drenched in led making it impermeable. I held that gun owned now by Dr. Beeman - of the same BB gun maker. It was incredibly well made.
The steel ball to the skull was interesting I was surprised wasn't expecting that much penetration! The arrows were very impressive!
It was but I’ll tell you what… I just finished shooting it with my HDR 68 and 😱 … skull and blood everywhere! Stay tuned for that one! And hopefully the arrows next. Thanks a lot my friend!
@@AirgunAlley Your welcome 👍
The aluminium balls were a revelation to me.
@@robertdore9592 higher speed and lighter mass by the same pressure square as the steel balls.
I was shocked with the arrows... i have the lil brother of the HDR50 for my Airsoft weekends. ^^ MAybee i get me the HDR50 for fun.
@@ottonormal3354 For arrows we got crossbows, they are unwieldy is the only problem. well, slow reload too. Even if they are repeaters. They are 100% lethal force in UK it's illegal to shoot someone with one, even for self defence. Sounds like a job for a shovel.
In the USA during my concealed carry class the instructor teaches you that anyone within 27 feet with a knife out is in range of you to use deadly force without a second thought
Absolutely correct, that's why cops keep that distance between them and a suspect and won't even cuff them facedown until backup has sights on, usually.
You must be fun at BBQs
Yep, In the "under 20 feet" scenario British and USA Military stats say the knife wielder will be successful 95% of the time , unless the firearm is already drawn with safety off
I'm told it's a (relatively) simple matter to mod these pistols up to their full potential since they are basically built that way at the factory and then throttled back... It'd be interesting to see a video of yours where you investigate the possibilities, for those of us who want to give our, umm, _teddy bears_ a tough day at the office!
Yep.. There is a valve block that just needs to be removed and the power basically doubles..
@@airgunballistics1779 Thanks for the 'S/P', Mate.
@@richiehoyt8487 Ill make a video demonstration of this process in the near future.. Ive already purchased the power kit 😈
Thanks so much man! I owe you a beer!! 🙌🏼
@@airgunballistics1779 subscribed! (and to be fair, I only discovered you in the last little while... 😀)
I’m obsessed with air guns, they are coming a long way. My first was a break barrel 30cal by hatsan, I’ve also picked up the sig virtus 22 and an avenger in .25
I also have an avenger in .25. I love the power I can get from it.
No blitz?
@@boerbeun i should own one but really can’t justify it!
I Am Just Grateful for your educational videos! I am not in great health, and was looking for a self-defense plan for me and family .I watched many. many of your videos, and you thought me so much about what would won't and would be feasible to use in my 50 cal HRD. I know know what to load it with. I am ever grateful for you and your TOP-NOTCH Videos!!!
Awesome and very thorough tests on these ammos. Nice work, great data collection
Glad you like them!
@@AirgunAlley joules ?
two (2) shots for each projectile? and the first shot always on the side of the target, and he couldn't find the projectiles for thse shots? awesome and thorough? c'mon; you're not that sheltered.
The arrows were interesting. I make my own ammo with hot glue and buckshot that does a pretty good job. I also upped the capacity on the regulator to about 18 joules, which makes a big difference in performance. It eats the CO2 carts like candy now but the increased power is well worth it. I have a friend with amachone shop and he makes me different bullets from aluminum, brass, copper ans steel. He came up with some devastating designs.
Do you live in england or something?
Buy a gun lol
I don't have their contact info, but the two lurkers on two separate occasions that I shot in the head (one in the back, one near the temple) with this from ~10 and 15 yards away) that needed taken to the hospital can attest that this little hand cannon does its job well. Ammo is pretty easy to make yourself too. I made a silicone mold and my ammo is hot glue with steel BB's of varying sizes.
Hahahahaha if you had your lurkers’ contacts - now that would’ve been something!
And finally a first hand experience. Double experience!!
Thanks for sharing man, hope them creeps stay away from now on…
@@AirgunAlley Haven't had anyone dumb enough to come around in a bit over a year now. With all the warning signs and motion lights I figured that be enough, but stupids are gonna stupid. I wish I had my cameras installed at the time.
Maybe after I get my Umarex HDX 68.
Yo this is mad haha
@@darkfarfetch3664 You're really bad at forming a sentence.
@Darkfarfetch or like many how the stories are so comments
The only airguns you need for self defense are the Byrna SD and the Air Defender V2 with .357 Nielson Specialty Hollow Point Ammo and a NoMad 2 Air compressor. That's what's up, can disable anyone or use lethality if necessary. Options for all Scenarios. Add in a Byrna Backpack with fast deploy and your ready for a warzone.
The channel keeps getting better.Thanks.
Oh man! I love hearing that, thank you so much as always Bruce!! 🙌🏼🙏🏽
It's unfortunate that better self-defense options are pretty limited outside the US. Looks like I'd go with those lightweight aluminum rounds if I had to use one of these, as it was able to damage the skull which was surprising. Only real issue with this is that you essentially have to be hitting headshots to do any significant damage. Fortunately, firearms are legal in most of the States, but again this seems decent for those in areas where that's not possible.
Yeah, the US is cooler, if you don't have kids. It is NOT a good place to have a family. You never know when they won't come home.
In America, our laws protect corporations, but not our people.
We are averaging more than one mass shooting a day here. Literally.
Idk where you are but I'm in Canada. Pretty easy to get an 80lb pistol crossbow that those arrows he's using are actually for
@@ryanfortin9166 I live in the States, so I carry a 9mm subcompact pistol on the daily. Bad part about arrows/bolts is you only get 1 shot, but 1 is better than nothing I suppose. Think I'd probably go with 6 of the aluminum rounds over 1 arrow though if I had to pick
The reason for these "less lethal" air guns is you might need something between harsh words and extremely lethal like 12 gague loaded with buckshots/slugs. I consider HDR50 to be good complement to my 12 gauge for home defense.
@@coldspring22 Shotguns are great for that specific reason actually. If the verbal warning doesn't work, first round is a beanbag, if that isn't enough the next one's bird shot which probably won't kill the bad guy but will hurt real bad, and then if they still haven't given up it's buckshot for the rest of the tube. Can't say an attempt wasn't made to dissuade the attacker without killing them in that case
hey man, your channel is getting better and better every time. Keep it up dude, you got great content :)
Hey Stuart, can’t thank you enough! I truly appreciate it 🙏🏽
Love your content. Informational and entertaining. I just got my HDR .68 cal last week. Still awaiting on my Home Wrecker Strum Balls 8gr. 💪🏾🇺🇲
Niice!! Oh you’ll love it! Let us know what you think once you play around with it. And thank you so much 🙏🏽🙌🏼
good video thanks been thinkng about getting one of these for home protection.
Great video! I have the hdr 50 and 68. This video was very useful. ❤
Thank you so much Herman!! Very happy you found it useful and enjoy your HDRs!!!
That arrow and BB buckshot is a real homedefence weapon need to get my hands on these. Awesome impressive video.
Thank you very much!!
Thank you for another great video :D It really gives you an idea about how effective the HDR50 is...
one of the most useful videos ive seen in a long time in the self defence world, i think these kind of guns are the best that has happened in the area of self defence since the first revolvers, this enables anyone to defend themselves efficiently without killing
Thank you so much my friend! 🙌🏼
I carry outside, but not in the house. In my house I have a HDR50 in a ready position. It's a very nice air gun that has boosted pressure.
The 1st devestator went through the meat on top of skull. The 1st 9mm went through the meat on right side of skull...definitely a bad day for whoever. Those killer spikes look nasty aswell. Great video and great results with all ammo bro 👍
Hey man, thanks so much!! Truth is, it was a very bad day for my aiming skills ahahaha but I wanted to make it as realist as possible, shoot fast and go with what I hit, instead of re-shooting my misses. And absolutely, as you said, even the ones that grazed by left a nice laceration. Painful stuff indeed!
Did you see the video I shot the following week with the HDR 68? Now that really left a mark on our poor ballistic guy!
Thanks again and I love your name, guess I’m a Less Lethal Dad too :)
After an incident on Wednesday I've been looking at these as options for my world. I've decided to settle on the .50 cal model. I'm buying a power kit as well as several different ammo types. These videos as well as Kentucky Ballistics review have helped me feel comfortable with this purchase. As someone who can't get pepper balls or anything of the sort thanks to Canada's laws this was my next bet. The devastator rounds are definitely going on the list as well as several rubber steel balls. 1 R/S, 1 Dev. That way if you don't change your mind the first time I can double tap you to enforce the idea.
Glad my videos were helpful to you my friend! Good choice, I would also think about something pointy/with spikes just to be complete. Wishing you the best and I hope that Wednesday’s incident will never repeat itself 🤞🏽
@Airgun Alley Miami I would run spikes if it wasn't so messy. I love the concept but pass through is a big fear.
You should just move out of Canada and move to a red state
@@austinrodriguez164 that's the dream
What does the power kit do in FPS upgrade?
Again great content . love the new range . . Im currently working on an anics brocock F1 .old but gold ..
Im sure HST would love your vids too
Thank you always my well educated friend! Oh how cool that would be if HST was still alive and actually watched my videos 😀 the F1 sounds interesting! Keep us posted! And thanks again
@@AirgunAlley I think your job is interesting by the way .. If you ever visit the UK you should report on the crime here . would make good viewing . I keep my F1 close by , its tuned too.. I have an i interesting collection ..
Another great and well-done video! Absolutely love your channel. Watched almost all of your videos and just now realized I haven't subscribed! Well, it was easy to fix that :)
Hahahaha well thank you for fixing that! And I truly appreciate you very much my friend! 🙌🏼
I kinda like the idea of non-firearm defense capable weapons. It's like some shit you'd find in Cyberpunk. That Aluminium shot was fairly impressive.
Absolutely! In my book not all situations require deadly force… thanks man
Its a firearm regarless of propulsion methods
@@roxasparks That's not how that works. By that logic a crossbow is a firearm.
I shot my girlfriend with a wadded up piece of paper through a straw. I'm now doing 20 to life because it is a "firearm."
@@roxasparks Where's the fire?
Masterpiece 👍 another great video. Those arrows are scary stuff.
Thank you so much my friend of the north! They are! I’ll bring you some next time I’m in your neck of the woods…
The aluminium balls seem to be the most damaging ammo with the exception of the arrows which are as expected, absolutely deadly, excellent video!
Thank you so much and absolutely spot on! In fact, he video I made right after this one - with the HDR 68 - confirms those aluminum balls are truly the best ammo
@@AirgunAlley They are almost completely sold out in Europe so absolutely must be! I managed to secure some though.
What was the name of them aluminium balls ? I need to order from over sea 😊
@@theaverageguy3884 you'll need to ask airgun alley Miami for the link.
J'aime beaucoup les tests et les comparatifs que tu réalises...
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Merci beaucoup mon ami! 🙌🏼
Eat the rich!! Don’t waste your money on this one though, unfortunately the airguns that can help you are expensive.
Look up AEA .45
And edgun leshiy .30
Good luck to you. Hopefully a difference can be made before the Russian nuclear terrorists end all life on earth.
I wait for yours vídeos, and i love it. Great job an fun! Thank's!
Thank you so much Rugerio!! 🙌🏼 I really appreciate it
For those who can’t have a firearm for home defense maybe the best option would be a crossbow. With this pistol right next to the crossbow for follow up shots. Followed by a cold steel buckler and gladius for last ditch defense.
Muito bruto o trabucão, bela demostração👏👏
Ive punched through a stop sign with the devestator rounds
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I don't understand all the people who say that air guns are useless for self defense. Like wtf if you can shoot holes into a stop sign with it do you realize what damage you can do to a human if you shoot them? Metal is much sturdier than a human body. Let that sink in.
Awesome shooting test bro!
Thanks a lot bro!!
0:21 Jesus, Maria y Jose! 😍 Good lord! I don't blame you brother. That nurse would stop traffic let alone a frail human heart. At first I thought the doctor was going to be playing both roles and come out in a wig and nurses uniform 😉😆
I've been saying for the past 3 yrs....these things a very effective at 20 ft or closer! My edc is the hdr 50 or the ppq 43. Great video bro
Three years of being right my friend! Hahaha! Good choices and thank you very much as always!
but how likely are you to hit a good shot on the face/neck if someone is charging at you with a knife/gun.
Change to a 17 joule valve and use the solid steel balls, it won't kill but if you hit someone in the head with it they will be getting crayons for Christmas for the rest of their life!
Funny intro 😁👍. Exelent video and testing as always. Cheers from your friend in Norway 👍
Thank you Maestro! Always very much appreciated coming from you
Enjoyed the Video, The arrows were awesome
Thanks a lot! They are, and very well made!
Great channel, and very informative.
Could you do another one that deals with even more realistic situations, like wearing a ski mask and sunglasses or a ticker hoodie, maybe even some jackets from 2 different distances, 10 and 20 feet? Which ammo would be most effective for stopping and deterring?
Hello my friend and thank you very much! I’ll do my best to add some clothing and protection to my future targets. I’ve done several videos in the past with mannequins wearing sunglasses and hoodies, but it’s also good to keep adding these features in my videos. Thanks for the input 🙏🏽
I'm surprised the arrows went that deep from 20 feet away. Any closer and it's a through and through, and that's even more fatal. Nothing stuck in to help stop bleeding. Might be a good "last line of defense" option, but I wouldn't ever want to use it as a primary, for several reasons. Presumably only going to get one shot, and it's likely that one shot will be fatal if it lands. If you want fatal, there are a lot of better options.
Aluminum round balls seem to hit pretty good for a less lethal option, tho.
I agree with you all around! Funny how we’re navigating on the thin line between lethal and non-lethal. One thing I want to try, once I’ll finally make a video dedicated to the arrows, is fast reloading, to see how long it takes between shots… good input my friend. Thank you
@@AirgunAlley The barrel of the hand gun should be removable, to accomodate an arrow magazine- loaded with 6 or 7 arrow shots.. To make such arrow very lethal:
1) Adjacent/ base of the arrowhead, wrapped around it a thin piece of foam, cotton bulk, etc...
2) Secure the same foam or cotton bulk with wrapped around cotton thread..
3) Put some drops of "formalin solution"- untill the said cotton or foam become saturated with the solution..
4) Others option for "dropping liquid" :
2. tablespoon full of laundry powder of "oxalic", "chlorine", "bleach", etc.- be dissolved with 1.tble spoonfull of water.. Stir it with a piece of stick untill a homogenous mixture of liquid solution resulted...
3) The final liquid solution, for used in soaking the cotton bulk or foam materials - located at the base of the arrowhead...
nice i have some of these from a year ago and never used them i have the pointed ones, great video man these would be good for pest control as well :)
Thanks a lot man! Yea hope you get to try them soon! Will be a cool video
@@AirgunAlley i noticed the links you have for these say unavailable, do you know how we can still get more of them arrows? i want to try the sharp tips :)
@@UmarexLessLethalHomeDefense hey buddy! Poor Cododo, they keep getting shutting down their shop. First Ebay and now Etsy… anyway, try this www.cododo.shop/en/shop those thins are fierce!!
He always gives the measures in both systems, imperial and metric. Thank you because in Brazil we use metric system and Celsius for temperature. Nice video.
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Loved this one. Great idea to use a ballistic dummy. Is it possible to get a dummy torso, as that is what most people might shoot at if a perp enters their home? Considering the effect of those projectiles, I thought that if one of mine don't stop the perp, perhaps I could flash him 🤔. It's quite possible that he will be subjected to uncontrollable laughter which will give me ample opportunity to exit 😜. By the way, you have a very pretty nurse on your staff. Lucky bugger you 😉.
Hahaha flashing is always the best form of home/self defense, I truly believe that 😂
And oh did I get lucky with my pretty (and awesome all around) nurse 😍
@@AirgunAlley yep, you sure did. better than winning the lottery. Well . . . maybe not. Just kidding. Treasure her!!
Wow, these arrows are better than expected...and it's just 11j. If the nurse has a sister I think to stay a week in hospital 🤣🤣🤣
It's always nice to see the intro. You have a real creativity for that and it brings much joy and fun to the community. Thanks for enlighten our days a bit.
Thank you so much Sven! I’m so glad you enjoyed it and unfortunately all the sisters are married already! The good ones get taken fast 😂 I’ll be doing a video exclusively on the arrows soon, I’m very much looking forward to it! Thank you again my friend!
@@AirgunAlley yeah, the good ones are gone quickly, too bad. I look forward then to the next arrow video. Do you think these work also fine in the HDS? In .68 of course. Guess muzzle loading in the hdx/HDB is not the real fun and takes too long in case.
Air guns are worth considering especially in places like where I live where it's unreasonably hard and expensive to get the permit for a firearm.
Vast majority of air guns sold for home defense are rebranded paintball markers but that has an upside- you can tune them up quite a bit.
From factory most of these markers are well bellow 17 joules but if you tune them right you can go to 60 or even over 80 joules and that is enough to be seriously painful.
It's still very much non lethal and not a replacement for a firearm, but an option worth considering for people who can't get a firearm for one reason or another.
Plus shooting them is a really fun pass time and .43 cal balls are a LOT cheaper than actual bullets and you can have a full auto marker for a bit extra fun on top :)
Hello again from Key West. Love the introduction. I have the same Hdr50 in 11 Jules from Defense innovation with their light/laser combo. Nice to see what the Devestators do.I keep them loaded in mine. I started trying the light solid nylon balls lately, serious damage on Rubbermaid trash can. Curious about on your ballistic dummy. Thanks again.
Hello my friend from down there and thank you! The solid nylon balls are great! You get a ton for cheap and they’re great for practicing! While keeping the Devastators for more important situations! Glad you liked it and thanks again!
Regardless of how deadly each different round was, the pain inflicted from each would be enough to deter any would be home invasionist from progressing past the point of contact with the home owner which is the main outcome to begin with.
Saying that though, you can certainly feel the pain the dummy would be in after taking each shot so the idea of using a Air Pistol for home defence instead of a firearm certainly has its merits and would make for a ideal option for anyone with children who are worried about the possibilities of accidents especially with the variety of loads shown here.
A person hopped up strong dope could possibly keep coming if shot placement isn't perfect and especially if heavy clothing is worn now those darts were a totally different story.
Amazing video but you kept hitting the same spot or missing completely it was driving me crazy 😆
Hahaha hey man, I’m mimicking a real life scenario ;) I decided not to correct (or reshoot my misses) on purpose. But you’re right, it’s pretty nerve-wreaking! Hope to do better this the HDR 68!
@@AirgunAlley you are a real one 😎
My city ordinance allows pellet guns being fired in town as long as it's on your own property, so I purchased a Crosman Nitro Venom .177 break-barrel for controlling critters in my garden. It's surprisingly powerful and while sighting in the scope, it was actually going through ¾" OSB. The problem is it has the wood stock and with the scope it looks too real at a glance. That, and with a lighter pellet, it sounds like a .22 rimfire going off and it sometimes attracts unwanted attention. Pellet guns are leaps and bounds more advanced than what I grew up with. But as far as home defense goes with a CO2 pistol, you had best make damn sure the first shot is true and accurate because you'll likely end up getting yourself killed by a highly pissed off intruder. For home invasion defense, I wouldn't go with ANYTHING LESS than a short barreled .410 shotgun.
Phantastic video! Respect!!!
Many thanks Christos!! Much appreciated!
Loved this video. I’ve been eyeing up that revolver for paintball, but for garden plinking practice other (less messy) ammo is preferred. Pretty much none of that is available in the uk. Probably not a bad thing, you know how most of the uk feels about this shizzle (none of them aware you can’t so much as hit a burglar with a rolled up newspaper without risking a custodial sentence here) 🤔
Pretty sure the darts could get you locked up here on their own. That said, we have zero laws about owning a crossbow or a compound bow. You just have to be 18.
Hahaha so, keep a bow/arrows and a rolled up newspaper by your bed and you’re home is a fortress!
Jokes aside, it’s “funny” how some weapons are regulated while others, much deadlier, aren’t. Here in Florida pretty much nothing is regulated, which is great for my purpose, but I realize how things change just by crossing the state line.
Thanks for your funny input Phil! I think you could still have some backyard fun with one of these should you end up getting one…
@@AirgunAlley It's similar here in the Netherlands, though we still can have firearms for sport shooting (licenses are heavily controlled though). Guns like these are outlawed not because they are dangerous, but because they look too much like the real thing. Same for Airsoft weapons, though recently these have been made somewhat legal as long as you only use them at a closed Airsoft range.
For self defense, there are some good crossbows these days. The Steambow Stinger 2 performs pretty well, especially with the 90 pound limbs. 6 shots in under 10 seconds and fast reloading with 6 bolts in a speedloader clip. At 10 meters, that thing penetrates half a bolt-length into an archery target (made of super hard foam). 100% legal though not for self defense... the crappy part is that these days, home invaders aren't just after your stuff, they are after YOU: they want pin codes and bank passwords, and they'll get them one way or the other. Running / hiding (what the law mandates) is not really an option anymore.
I don't think you're allowed to shoot burglars with them though. Far more deadly than an average air weapon of course. It's illegal to have broadheads even theoretically, but in shtf scenarios, they are almost a guaranteed fatality. I don't know if I would be willing to kill a burglar under normal circumstances. I don't know if I should call the cops if I actually did, either.
would I be in more trouble if I just buried the guy at that point? That guy who killed his wife, chopped her up, and buried the bits go off on a manslaughter charge, after all.
@@MarkJones-gt2qd I'd rather deal with the judge than with st. Peter :)
You wanna see what it's like across the ditch here in the (Rep. of) Ireland - *Worse(!)* in case it needed spelling out, lol! Even the sort of airguns that would be considered little more than toys most places are forbidden! Although I have heard it's pretty much war on legit firearm owners in the UK lately, and I seem to remember that guy who shot a couple of burglars (repeat customers) back in the '90's got a fairly hefty stint, although it didn't help his case that he basically hid in waiting (one can almost picture the guy stroking his weapon, NO innuendo intended!) Over here, a guy who was sent down in virtually identical circumstances was let out after a few months due to the public outcry, though they would never SAY that, obviously!
Unfortunately I live in a country that is anti gun, we are only allowed air weapons with minimal power, unless you can get a firearms certificate. The HDR 50 is an arms reach from me at night loaded with rubber steel balls and an unpierced new CO2 cylinder. I used to have a 1911 .45 I am easily capable of plucking the eyes of an intruder at 20 feet, I hope I never have to but I sleep easily knowing I can.
Well done good test with stock gun.wow darts flew true and fast.💨💥💨💥
Oh Joe my friend, you should try those arrows 😱 you will put a hole thru a tank! Ahaha thanks a lot as always!
Awesome video! 🤯
Glad you enjoyed it
Though there are others who do a video or 2 about the HDR50, you're the only one who consistently tests and explores them. I've learned more about this non-lethal from you than I have from anyone else, and I'm talking with my friendly contact at SEDENA about the legality of owning one of these in Mexico. I will be sure to update you on the laws and facts about this because the laws are extreme in Mexico regarding gun and airgun ownership. I have many legal guns and airguns and compound bows here, but I researched the laws thoroughly before becoming a weapon owner here. I know your videos are US based, but the HDR is sold in many countries. Maybe one day you can do a video about legality of the HDR50 in other countries. I can help you with some research. I live in Italy, too. I can check European Union laws, Mexico, Belize. Honduras. Guatemala etc...
I think it’s 14J max in Mx
@@AviaryAviles159 Not true. My Hatsan Blitz .25 with the right slug is 140 joules. And it's perfectly legal here. In fact, I can Legally have an AEA Zeus. 72 caliber (12 guage rifle with 1600 fpe) here. With, of course, a permit from SEDENA. I actually have one on order.
Very good points! I know the laws regarding these things are in general very fluid and often change. I also think that they’ll soon be more regulated all around as the demand for less-lethal continues to grow and brands continue developing more and more powerful, real looking air guns with a ‘Home Defense’ purpose.
Thanks for your research and input. Very good idea indeed!
You’ll have good performance from the gas with the ambient temps in Mexico too
@M K We are about 6,300 feet elevation at my house. The temps are hotter this year than last year's summer already, and we haven't had rain since over a year ago. Arid desert clime. Temps are hanging at 80° to 87° every. All my pellet guns pop with power here, and even my (legal) powder burners seem to do better. The humidity stays between 5% and 25% here. At my house in Texas, the humidity stays at about 90% and it does affect how airguns shoot. The temperatures are starting to get hot hot, and dailies will see 105° at 2 PM until 4 PM every day.
Go for the cartoids. It would be more effective
Worth a thumbs-up and a subscribe just for the production quality (and having....a... nurse on hand).
Hahaha my nurse always gets me more subscribers than all my hard work ahahaha
Thanks a lot my friend!
Awesome video dude 💀👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you so much Mr Max!
Damn that's a crazy ass non lethal arrow fired at 11 joules 😂😂😂😂 lit
E=MC2. You could take someone’s head off with a cotton ball.
It was a joy to watch! Love the comedy intro
Glad you enjoyed it! And thank you so much!
I have the hdp50 not the revolver with a modified disc that I only get 5 or 6 really hard shots per 12g CO2. With the steel ball bearings it will go thru 1/4 " paneling no problem. I have also experimented with many different types of ammo home made and otherwise. The glass slingshot ammo works good but aren't consistent in size and must be muzzle loaded because they don't cycle. Same with the steel ball bearings.
Gotta love these skits. That's your wife, I assume? Lucky man. I got lucky, too. I married a beauty here in Mexico 11 years ago just before I retired, who is 16 years younger than me. Nobody believes I'm almost 60 years old when I tell them. I said it's my young wife... keeps me young. Maybe I'll live 150 years? 🤣
Hahahaha sounds like we’re both children trapped in older men’s bodies! Bless our wives for keeping us the teenagers we really are! And muchas gracias my friend!
Even air guns are illegal in Mexico and the USA keep arming the cartels. We could take care of cartels if a large numbers of citizens had access to air guns at least
This happens in almost underdeveloped country controlled by populist governments such as Colombia, Brazil, Mexico. We are talking about narco countries, the first objective of govern is to disarm the population... make civilians weak so that drug trafficking and militias can take over and money flows
In the words of Evil Roy Slade..."I love that toot toot sound!" 😂
Awesome video brother 💪💪💪⚔️Regards from Tenerife ⚔️🙏❤️
Muchas gracias amigo!! 🙏🏽🙌🏼
Arrows isnt even an option for me, besides that, none of these look lethal (which is good), it looks perfect with devastators!
I love your view on the less lethal world!
Doctor, saludos a la bella esposa.
Gracias amigo! ❤️
I just bought the light and laser attachment you showed in a previous video. Did you have any issues with the laser pointing slightly to the left? Great video as always. I just received my HDR 50 11 J and I LOVE it
Hi Brandon, congrats on your new HDR 50 and well done on the laser/light! You should be able to adjust the laser. There are two tiny holes on the torch. One in the center and one on the side. With the alan key they provide, you can adjust it. A laser boresighter also helps a lot with that. It’s another 20$, but it’s a great tool to have amzn.to/3jXxNgi
Love mine and preciate the education didn't know she would throw 9mm rounds down range. Great vid
Happy to help man!! 🙌🏼 thank you
olike eo 786
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super video, very well made and also funny.
Congratulations
Stefano from Florence
Grazie mille Stefano!! Sono contento ti piaccia 🙌🏼
I love my gamo .22 pellet gun. Now I want this.
Awesome video!!!! I didn’t know they made arrows for the hdr 68.🤙🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼🏆
Oh yess! CODODO has incredible stuff in all calibers :) and thank you so much my friend!
I don't think the drug dealers in the alley behind my house cared that they got shot with an air gun, but they ran away really quick and haven't come back.
Firearms shoot bullets, Airguns shoot pellets and slugs. They're both guns, they're both weapons, they're both deadly. A weapon is just that, A weapon..
I always get a giggle from your opening video .... keep it up and great learning content also. My wife is a Nurse also and I hope she never gave anyone a heart attack but who knows , you know Nurses.
There’s a tshirt- Heart Rate Monitor- Nurse- you need to calm down- Flatline- NOT THAT CALM!!!!!!
Hahahaha these nurses I tell you, they save you and kill you at the same time! Congrats on marrying an angel (as that’s what they truly are) 🙌🏼 and thank you!
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@@AirgunAlley Nurses rule for sure , I know mine rules over me and has saved my life many times.
Another great video hope you got your dragonclaw fixed .
I did!! I sent it back and a new one is on the way. Thank you so much again 🙏🏽
Great Video
Thank you so much Lazaro!
Fantastic video
Thank you so much!
I’ve followed your channel for a while
I love the hunter a Thompson references in other videos
Glad to see he’s not forgotten
I'll stick to my live traps outside, but it's a sweet idea for indoors.
Man I love your comedy sketch
Thank you so much! 🙌🏼😎
The beginning 🟠⚫ 🤣🤣
I have a gamo airgun that fires hollow point at
.25mm faster than a slug almost 1000fps. It makes a .22 rifle look like a bb gun. It's my baby. Silent death is what I call her
The HDR 50 is a great gun, once you break it in, and those arrows are Vicious, Nice!!
Can you do a test on the effectivity of the different blank cartridge as defense tool in small homes?
The BYRNA gun is really good too. Pump a load of pepper spray balls at the intruder (like paint balls but with pepper spray) . It hurts too, nice bruising and while hurting the intruder you can make them cough and cry like a little high school girl that can't get her way.
Interesting fact, (at least in my home state) those are illegal for ex-cons to use. (I know a guy)
Thanks for the good Video 🙂
I have shot the arrows out of my 16 joules HDS 68. Pretty cool.
Nice!! They are quite powerful alright!
That's what I would call extensive research Doctor!!! Thanks man could I suggest you doing a video shooting that same dummy head with the .50 cal Dragon Claw from a 50 meter distance and maybe the air Saber please 🙏 just to see penetration and damage from a distance? A humble request from one of your biggest fans Less Lethal SA 🇿🇦.
Hahahah you want me completely demonetized eh? 😂 that may be a bit too splattery for our judges at UA-cam hahaha but boy that is a great idea!
For now, I’ll shoot what’s left of it with my HDR 68 30joules, then it’ll probably be the end of this bust (they only have 2 weeks of life once you unbox them).
This said, my dear Mogamed, I do plan to get more ballistic toys (maybe not in the human form) to blast with my pcp rifles :) yours is a great idea and I appreciate your request!
And thank you as always my friend!!
I’d love to try lead round balls in that someday
great video thx
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you!
i HAVE 50 CAL dRAGONClaw... love it. 230 ft/lb or 311 joules... It also shoots arrow/bolts.. Problem is, it buries the bolts in anything I have tried.. solid rounds 185 gr... its one of my favorite air rifles!
Absolutely! Mine too! So far…
Having a small metal detector probe may help in locating those pesky small projectiles embedded in the gel skull.
That’s not a bad idea. Later when I finally destroyed it - it had lot of “shrapnel” inside of it!
Breaking the skull?! Holy crap.
Hardened glass would be something I'd consider because if they shatter on impact they could cause even greater trauma.
Marbles
I really like HDR 50. I often shoot with this leisure weapon, even if it can be used in an emergency for defense. In France the 9 mm Parabellum or the calibers of the shoulder weapons is prison. The legislation is not in favor of the victims.
Hehe mon ami! I know. But at least, if I’m not mistaking, in France you have one of the highest “joules” limits for paintball markers 🤔
Anyway, did you see what the HDR 68 did to the same ballistic dummy? Salut monsieur Gaston
I am looking to get an hdr 50. Is it necessary to upgrade a 7.5j version to an 11j value to achieve max power or can you modify the 7.5 version to achieve the same outcome. Trying to decide which platform to purchase and modify to get a 25-30j total outcome and it appears the 7.5 is more readily available for purchase however if its worth the upfront money I can go with the 11j version vs buying a 7.5 and changing and then buying a 11j value. Great vid and I look forward to your advice.
How far back were you set for the back? The harder the impact.
I have a 22 pellet rifle that will put pallet slugs through a piece of plywood.
They're huge heavy. Travel a lot slower than alloy pellets but they are tack drivers