Great video: Been a mechanic & worked for a machine shop for 25 years. Always always use a breaker bar to crack the bolts free first before using any kind of impact tool. Thanks for sharing your build.
We need more videos like this, i mean the style you do these videos in. Really detailed video with great quality. Id like to see long road trips, camping trips and what equipment to use, roadside repairs and your everyday life. Youre gonna go far, i just know it!
I just got a 2023 Low Rider S and when I stumbled across your page I was so relieved. Knowledgeable, good taste on what you want your bike to look like, good quality videos, and just really relatable content. Love your page and your bike man, keep it up!
Good job. I can see myself doing the same upgrade a couple years back. I went for a S&S 465 cam. I acquired the tooling from Jim’s. For me it went well. I was a bit anxious about sufficiently bleeding my lifters though. Then I upgraded the suspensions, front and back because it was too stiff for my taste. Cheers.😊
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing! Good to see Harley using better cam bearing from the factory. That concerns me about getting this done at a shop. How many parts do I “really” need to replace? How bad are the stock Harley parts anyway? I definitely don’t see needing a new oil pump and cam plate just for a new cam. I might just do this job myself also. You give me a lot of confidence in doing it myself. Thanks again.
So funny. I did the exact same to my '23 LRS yesterday (6/23). I found that my cam bearing was exactly the same as the "updated" bearing. Was a waste of time/tools to change but I did it anyway. Same Koyo part # and number of needles. HD must have made a running change to the newer bearing. My runout: .003".
Ah, interesting. Thanks for sharing that. Ya it's a bit of a bummer to find out once you're already in there because, as you mention, the tools for the bearing swap aren't cheap. Maybe others can get a heads up from us sharing at least though. Enjoy the new cam!
@@Warren-Rides No kidding. I have to admit, I bought the Amazon knockoffs for the cam bearing tool and sprocket locking tool since I only planned to use them once. They both worked fine When I saw the same cam bearing I was surprised. Like you, I tutored myself through UA-cam. I had no broken bolt though. That would have soured me a bunch.
I’ve had a few bolt heads break off on my 23’ low rider s. I have a lot of experience extracting stripped or snapped bolts from my ktms growing up so when they snapped I didn’t think twice and immediately started drilling them out so I could use a screw extractor. The bolts on my Harley did take forever to drill out but as long as you take your time it usually doesn’t go wrong.
@@Warren-Rides primary cover bolt and one of the bolts under the seat. They just snapped like nothing. Harley puts lock tight on everything so that doesn’t help
I had a heck available time getting that pump to seat in the lower left corner. Now my plate dont seem to fit. I have to remove all the pushrods and lifters just to get the plate on.
Great video! Kudos to you for having the courage to perform this upgrade to your bike. I've watched a lot of videos on the process (probably all of the same videos you've watched), and while I feel confident that I could perform this procedure, I opted to let the a master tech at a local dealership do it on my bike because I was adding an oil cooler and was at a regular service interval. I hope you have a great riding season.
I did my 2011 FLHX full S&S 551C cam kit. You were smart to check crank runout I’ve seen new bike with over .010 runout crazy but true. S&S provides awesome instructions I called the tech line on a question during installation they were super helpful. Harley used to use a caged cam bearing they were junk. Any time you do a job like that new parts are always best gives you peace of mind. Sorry to hear that bolt locked up on you but it’s typical Harley quality control issues unfortunately. Did you bump the motor to prime the oil pump and tune the bike prior to running it, just curious great job hope you enjoy that new set up it’s awesome.
Thanks for sharing your insight. I'm definitely curious to hear and learn from others as this is all new to me. Yes sir, I did tune before starting. I'll be posting a video on my tuning process next.
Jeez man...great video. Sounds like what would have happened to me had I decided to do my cam myself. I'm like you, fairly comfortable with my mechanical abilities...but there so many things like this that are just out of your control and hard to figure out when it's happening if it's your fault or not. Glad you got it resolved though...nothing like getting the job done yourself. Great videos, well edited and quality...nice job, brother.
I'll admit I did feel vindicated when 6 other mechanics, much more accomplished than myself, were all challenged by the bolt. They think that the port for that one didn't get bored deep enough during the factory production so when a bolt got run down in there, it just wadded itself into a hardened mess. Those things happen though I suppose. Many thanks for the compliment.
@@Warren-Rides Also glad to hear your local dealer did you right and charged only one hour of labor for the attempt. Good to hear. I'm posting off my personal account now but I've got a FXLRST channel I just started up working through mods and upgrades...hope to get some more travel videos going once it's not a million degrees down here in Texas. www.youtube.com/@MotoATX
Great video. Unfortunately things like that bolt incident happens a lot. I work in quality for a major manufacturer. There are process in line to catch that. Obviously the thread depth gauge wasn’t used on the machining side and the torque driver was over ridden on the assembly side. Most likely there are going to be several engines with that same bolt issue in the same location. It’ll be as many as they ran between checks on the machining side. The assembly side, people just cheat the checks to get parts out including management. Unfortunately this is the state of American manufacturing currently. Harley can easily see what engines are affected by running the serial # of the case. It’s all recorded.
@@Shah_creates good question. It’s hard to say for my personal experience just because I ran into a handful of miscellaneous interruptions or small issues (not including the broken bolt), and then filming everything always drags everything out. If you don’t encounter any issues though I’d say you could easily get it done in 8-10 hours or so. Some people may say less, some more, but that’d be my guess.
@@Warren-Rides Thank you. By the way, this is real, you have the nicest setup on your LRS. Love the short V&H matte black pipes and the fairing. Very tasteful and cool.
Mostly everything cam in the kit I ordered: www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/ss-475-cam-chest-kit-for-harley-oil-cooled-milwaukee-eight-2017-2021?Product&RevZilla I think the only other things I needed were the specialty tools and the oil pump gasket.
Corporate pppppfffffttttt clearly knackered when bike was built so harley problem whether your working on it or a garage. Loosing faith with Harley seriously
You put yourself through so much grief for what? A bigger cam? Really? Stock performance on a 117ci not good enough? I enjoy working on bikes too but this seemed pointless. Especially when your bike is relatively new! Gave you something to do I guess.
I had a bolt that was cross threaded from factory and when i backed it out it pulled the inside threads out.. guess it happends a lot in thd build process
Great video: Been a mechanic & worked for a machine shop for 25 years. Always always use a breaker bar to crack the bolts free first before using any kind of impact tool. Thanks for sharing your build.
Ah gotcha, that's good advice. Thanks for watching.
Happy to see Harley put a good cam bearing in.
Nicely done. Make me more comfy in doing this on my ST. Thank you.
Dude great job on the install. I can also appreciate all the camera placements while you did the install.
Thank you sir!
Awesome video, loved how you took your time and enjoyed the process. I used to live in Gig Harbor WA and do not miss it it all. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fantastic video! Thank you for recording and uploading this. New suscriber!
@@_smokingaces5655 thanks very much
I literally just bought an S&S 475 cam install kit and I'm so glad for this video. So detailed, Ive never worked on a motorcycle only automobiles.
Very nice, you'll do great on the install I'm sure. Have fun with it!
2023 has new bearing from factory. Mine did on my 23 lowrider st
We need more videos like this, i mean the style you do these videos in. Really detailed video with great quality. Id like to see long road trips, camping trips and what equipment to use, roadside repairs and your everyday life. Youre gonna go far, i just know it!
@@Placidi0us hey thanks for the kind encouragement. I’ll keep them up all summer. Hopefully no roadside repairs though!
I just got a 2023 Low Rider S and when I stumbled across your page I was so relieved. Knowledgeable, good taste on what you want your bike to look like, good quality videos, and just really relatable content. Love your page and your bike man, keep it up!
@@Woodyyy2 thanks very much. I’m sure you’re gonna love your new bike.
I'm not mechanically inclined at all so this was really fun to watch.
Thanks for checking it out.
Good job dude!
Good job. I can see myself doing the same upgrade a couple years back. I went for a S&S 465 cam. I acquired the tooling from Jim’s. For me it went well. I was a bit anxious about sufficiently bleeding my lifters though. Then I upgraded the suspensions, front and back because it was too stiff for my taste. Cheers.😊
Thanks Chris. Nice job on your project as well. How was the suspension upgrade process?
wooooow!! job will done, that is impressive man. thank you for sharing your experience in on part, we missed you but now we know why 😅
Haha thank you. Ya, unfortunately went from a weekend job to something much longer but thanks for hanging around while I got the job and video done.
Man, that was one heck of an ordeal, definitely a freak bolt from the factory. Glad everything worked out, the bike sounds great!
Thank you.
That ain’t freak bolt. I work in quality for a major manufacturer. That stuff happens a lot. All of it is operator intentional.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing! Good to see Harley using better cam bearing from the factory. That concerns me about getting this done at a shop. How many parts do I “really” need to replace? How bad are the stock Harley parts anyway? I definitely don’t see needing a new oil pump and cam plate just for a new cam. I might just do this job myself also. You give me a lot of confidence in doing it myself. Thanks again.
Thanks Robby. Best of luck with your build!
That's awesome man! Killer job, and great video!
Thank you, appreciate the support.
It feels so good to do your own work. Great video, keep em coming
It certainly does. Cheers!
Awesome video
So funny. I did the exact same to my '23 LRS yesterday (6/23). I found that my cam bearing was exactly the same as the "updated" bearing. Was a waste of time/tools to change but I did it anyway. Same Koyo part # and number of needles. HD must have made a running change to the newer bearing. My runout: .003".
Ah, interesting. Thanks for sharing that. Ya it's a bit of a bummer to find out once you're already in there because, as you mention, the tools for the bearing swap aren't cheap. Maybe others can get a heads up from us sharing at least though. Enjoy the new cam!
@@Warren-Rides No kidding. I have to admit, I bought the Amazon knockoffs for the cam bearing tool and sprocket locking tool since I only planned to use them once. They both worked fine When I saw the same cam bearing I was surprised. Like you, I tutored myself through UA-cam. I had no broken bolt though. That would have soured me a bunch.
Excellent video Warren, great work. Job well done mate, glad everything worked out in the end, bike sounds sweet. Ride safe, Cheers from Oz
Thanks very much, cheers!
Great job on the install vid ! I’m about to to the same on my 23 FLHXS
Thanks very much. Enjoy the process!
Dude fantastic video
Thank you sir!
I’ve had a few bolt heads break off on my 23’ low rider s. I have a lot of experience extracting stripped or snapped bolts from my ktms growing up so when they snapped I didn’t think twice and immediately started drilling them out so I could use a screw extractor. The bolts on my Harley did take forever to drill out but as long as you take your time it usually doesn’t go wrong.
@@teeganfox177 oh interesting. That’s good that you’ve been able to handle those yourself. Which bolts on your low rider broke?
@@Warren-Rides primary cover bolt and one of the bolts under the seat. They just snapped like nothing. Harley puts lock tight on everything so that doesn’t help
I had a heck available time getting that pump to seat in the lower left corner. Now my plate dont seem to fit. I have to remove all the pushrods and lifters just to get the plate on.
Dang that's a pain, sorry it gave you grief.
I done my 3030 cam at 900 miles so I kept mine in and kept stock plate and oil pump. They're plenty good enough to suffice in operation.
Great video! Kudos to you for having the courage to perform this upgrade to your bike. I've watched a lot of videos on the process (probably all of the same videos you've watched), and while I feel confident that I could perform this procedure, I opted to let the a master tech at a local dealership do it on my bike because I was adding an oil cooler and was at a regular service interval. I hope you have a great riding season.
Hey thanks for the compliment. Glad you got yours done successfully as well. Cheers!
why are you marking the torque sequence on the cam chest cover, what are the reson behind it ?
I did my 2011 FLHX full S&S 551C cam kit. You were smart to check crank runout I’ve seen new bike with over .010 runout crazy but true. S&S provides awesome instructions I called the tech line on a question during installation they were super helpful.
Harley used to use a caged cam bearing they were junk. Any time you do a job like that new parts are always best gives you peace of mind.
Sorry to hear that bolt locked up on you but it’s typical Harley quality control issues unfortunately. Did you bump the motor to prime the oil pump and tune the bike prior to running it, just curious great job hope you enjoy that new set up it’s awesome.
Thanks for sharing your insight. I'm definitely curious to hear and learn from others as this is all new to me.
Yes sir, I did tune before starting. I'll be posting a video on my tuning process next.
Jeez man...great video. Sounds like what would have happened to me had I decided to do my cam myself. I'm like you, fairly comfortable with my mechanical abilities...but there so many things like this that are just out of your control and hard to figure out when it's happening if it's your fault or not. Glad you got it resolved though...nothing like getting the job done yourself. Great videos, well edited and quality...nice job, brother.
I'll admit I did feel vindicated when 6 other mechanics, much more accomplished than myself, were all challenged by the bolt. They think that the port for that one didn't get bored deep enough during the factory production so when a bolt got run down in there, it just wadded itself into a hardened mess. Those things happen though I suppose.
Many thanks for the compliment.
@@Warren-Rides Also glad to hear your local dealer did you right and charged only one hour of labor for the attempt. Good to hear. I'm posting off my personal account now but I've got a FXLRST channel I just started up working through mods and upgrades...hope to get some more travel videos going once it's not a million degrees down here in Texas. www.youtube.com/@MotoATX
Great video. Unfortunately things like that bolt incident happens a lot. I work in quality for a major manufacturer. There are process in line to catch that. Obviously the thread depth gauge wasn’t used on the machining side and the torque driver was over ridden on the assembly side. Most likely there are going to be several engines with that same bolt issue in the same location. It’ll be as many as they ran between checks on the machining side. The assembly side, people just cheat the checks to get parts out including management. Unfortunately this is the state of American manufacturing currently. Harley can easily see what engines are affected by running the serial # of the case. It’s all recorded.
@@jimbeam4111 very interesting. That’s what all those around me suspected. I appreciate you taking the time to share your expertise and insight.
@Warren-Rides can we get a copy of that check-list? lol Thats my favorite part here, everything else is great, but the documentation is key!
I just wrote down every step from watching the J&P Cycles install video.
Great video. There needs to be far more DIY install videos on the M8’s.
Thanks Josh
Where did you find the sissy bar. That looks great and is exactly what I am needing for my dyna
It's an Edward Richie sissy bar. I have an install video if you'd like more details. It's a great sissy bar.
Why didn't they weld a nut on the end of the broken bolt? The heat of the weld helps free it. And why didn't they run a blind tap down the hole?
They tried both of those actually. I talk about that at 12:07 into this video if you want to hear the details.
I’ll go back and watch it again! I really felt for you when that bolt broke mate! Great result though. Great video!
@@brantwinter Hey thanks. It was a pain but definitely worth it in the end and all fun at the end of the day.
Does the ring in the back of the pump need to be there
If your pump has the cut out for it yes.
Sorry if you already mentioned this but how many hours did it all take? Thinking of copying everything you did step by step.
@@Shah_creates good question. It’s hard to say for my personal experience just because I ran into a handful of miscellaneous interruptions or small issues (not including the broken bolt), and then filming everything always drags everything out. If you don’t encounter any issues though I’d say you could easily get it done in 8-10 hours or so. Some people may say less, some more, but that’d be my guess.
@@Warren-Rides Thank you. By the way, this is real, you have the nicest setup on your LRS. Love the short V&H matte black pipes and the fairing. Very tasteful and cool.
@@Shah_creates Thanks very much! Best of luck on your install.
So precious with your gloves and toothpicks lol. Good video though.
Haha lots of gloves when you're working with oil but constantly needing to touch expensive cameras
Can you throw up a link to your parts list? Revzilla cart or something? Trying to do my cam soon and I’m thinking of going with the same cam.
Mostly everything cam in the kit I ordered:
www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/ss-475-cam-chest-kit-for-harley-oil-cooled-milwaukee-eight-2017-2021?Product&RevZilla
I think the only other things I needed were the specialty tools and the oil pump gasket.
Can you re use that oil pump o ring?
I wouldn't. I'd always replace o rings, gaskets, etc. A new one from the dealership was pretty cheap too so no reason to risk it in my opinion.
did you tune the bike? if so what did you use
Yes I did.
ua-cam.com/video/caI-xe0uwa0/v-deo.htmlsi=PeRkfEu2yFtRNMUP
Does this void your warranty? Nice upgrade.
I would imagine it does without a doubt.
Harley warranty has to cover that by law
What do you you mean " Runout"
How much the crank shaft wobbles when rotating.
That t27 was running from your v-neck
Haha I don't own a v-neck, it's just where the mic was clipped on.
Broken screw
Corporate pppppfffffttttt clearly knackered when bike was built so harley problem whether your working on it or a garage. Loosing faith with Harley seriously
Great video!
You put yourself through so much grief for what? A bigger cam? Really?
Stock performance on a 117ci not good enough? I enjoy working on bikes too but this seemed pointless. Especially when your bike is relatively new! Gave you something to do I guess.
So you think the thousands of people who upgrade cams on all the 117 M8 models is pointless?
Absolutely. You got it in one. Hit the nail on the head.
I had a bolt that was cross threaded from factory and when i backed it out it pulled the inside threads out.. guess it happends a lot in thd build process
@@albertpadilla3863 man that sucks. Hope you were able to get it resolved.
@Warren-Rides luckily it had threads still deep in there so I just put a longer bolt.
its a unique cam , not a real good cruising touring cam