Got me excited because just today I got the ball rolling for a stage 2 upgrade on my new 2022 Street Glide ST M8 117ci. Zippers Red Shift 468 cam kit, SE Tune (to not void warranty), TAB slip-ons w/Zombie baffles. Psyched!
Man, that bike sounds good! Always enjoy seeing Chris in his element. The mechanics episodes have gotten increasingly interesting to me, and I really enjoy attempting to learn what I can from them. I also noticed the giveaway Road Glide had some blue and gold additions to it. Lookin snazzy!
Just started following you a couple of days ago and watched your learning to ride videos. Took on an interest to ride within the last monthI left a comment on there thanking you, but just want to say it again. You’re an awesome teacher, and I am happy to announce my basic rider course is next week and I’ll be making my purchase within the next month! Thank you once again for breaking everything down and making it not only easier to understand, but giving confidence while you do! Godspeed friend!
New rider here. Only been riding sport bikes (125 and 250) but I have my eye on the 2022 Lowrider S. Really find your videos informative and fun to watch. Keep up the good work 👏
@@bbii125 most definitely did. I picked it up in October and put about 1k miles in the first month! I have it in the shop now getting a TBR Turnout exhaust, some risers, and a new seat put on! I absolutely love the bike.
Another great video. Glad your channel is going awesome. First of all I love the direction of Harley. The Sportster S and Pan America are outstanding. Finally the 117 into a smaller lighter bike, thx Harley. I think Harley has seen what happened in 2008 with the Big 3 moving from fleet sales to world sales. They went Bankrupt trying to catch up as they waited too long. GM in 2008 bailout, Ford 2009 bailout. I have owned 30 bikes, never a Harley almost bought a Fat Bob 2 years ago but bought a Super Duke Instead. Less weight, more horsepower, stability control, traction control, Abs standard. I am over 60. I can not do 800 pound bikes. If the Sportster S was available That may have changed my mind as lighter, more horsepower and standard electronic aids. I raced professional motocross and flat track in the 60-70’s. I still want safety aids as I am not constantly 100% focused at times. RDRS should be standard on all Harley’s not an option on touring bikes. It’s for safety. Ducati, BMW, KTM, offer stability control standard. Stability control mandated 2012 for cars. Euro 5 requires TC. Harley would also benefit with electronic suspension. Look forward to next video.
This is what I wanted to see… I heard blockhead talking about going with D&D in the future. I have a tbr turnout pipe on my ‘20 FXLRS and just ordered a D&D bob cat. 10-12 week wait😣 but comparing same mods looks like you got 10 more ft lbs of torque with those pipes. Seems like it’ll be well worth the wait!
Nice bike. Love the sound of the pipes and cam. The fairing and bars aren't my style, so that is the only thing I would do different. The black looks so much better than that primer gray.
Block, let's see some other cams...please please I consistently see the same 4-5 cam swaps. I'd love to see you do a MaxCell 821, CR483 or something from Ward Performance, or T-Man
Thats AWESOME....also the viewers need to consider that your Dyno is super reserved compared to most of the dealer dyno's...(dunno how the dealers find all these "magic" dynos) On the dyno that Chris used to use, that thing would have made another 10 hp and ft-lbs of torque..LOLZ. FYI...my dyno guy is definitely doing 2021/2022 bikes...
my top speed on the highway with a stock '23 117 was over 125mph..... with a stage 1 Power Vision 4 tune - straight drag pipes - stock "HF" air cleaner I got it to 131mph with a little room to go ;)
I just love to ride, I am have never been interested in bore kits etc. On my new 107 2017 Street Glide special up from my 2006 Road King I do a stage one and gear cam kit that’s it aside from adding full LED lighting. Now I did install a fan assisted oil cooler on my 2017 to help with cooling. I already paid for the bike and not going to pay twice.
Man I envy some people. I’d love to go into a 2:1 but don’t want the warranty voided. Would you or Chris be able to elaborate on wether going 2:1 with the Screamin’ Eagle turner will actually void your powertrain warranty or not? I see that S&S makes a 50 state legal 2:1 with the cat built in. If a normal 2:1 would void your warranty would you be ok with the 50 state legal S&S because it has a cat built in leaving the warranty intact? I trust your opinions more than others online and Chris with 25 years experience and being a Master Tech speaks a lot for itself. Thank you 🙏 love the videos as well.
@@njachtschitz yeah could do that but I’d rather play on the side of caution and not mess with it. All it takes is 1 person to plug it in accidentally because they missed the note and your done.
If you have the screamin eagle tuner with it, it shouldnt. Even if your local dealer says yes it would just put the stock back on if you need warranty work.
I've been watching your videos ever since I bought my 2020 Lowrider S in November of 2020. And I enjoyed watching your build series on Goldzilla. My question is how do the horsepower and torque numbers of the stage 2 117 compare to the all Harley 131 kit for the Lowrider S?
I've heard that the heavy breather elite or whatever ita called that comes stock on the 2022 117ci is very restrictive and can rob 7 to 10 hp. (Don't shoot thr messenger just what I'm hearing in forums.) Maybe thay accounts for the difference in power between the 114 stage 2 and 117 stage 2?
Love the channel man. Thinking to buy my first harley. How reliable has been your low rider s so far? I debated between indian and HD. But the service and endless customization options convinced ms to go with HD. I am still debating on which model to go for. I would like to do some longer rides. Full day/several day trips but i also want sportier more classic looking bike.
Most the benefit of stage 2 is the higher rpm near redline. Most people do not go around redlining their Harley. Engines mods are the most expensive mods for the least amount of horsepower. Buy the power from the factory without need of stage 2-4. The Sportster S and Pan American are the most powerful bikes, horsepower/weight, Harley offers. Liquid cooling really helps with horsepower with reliability. Harley needs a touring bike with the sportster S frame(lighter) and offer the Pan America motor. No mods needed. The newer bikes offer RDRS standard(Sportster, PA) which controls wheelie and traction which is needed in higher performance Harley’s.
I mean you can put $3000-$4000 into the motor of an old $4000 used Sportster and put down 120-130hp on the Dyno. But it's definitely going to be a raw experience and a death trap with stock sporty suspension, brakes, no abs, no traction control, etc.
I've subscribed to you for a while now didn't know you had a garage bro. I live in Central Florida. would love to visit the garage and ride with you guys bro I got a 2020 low rider s
Just out of curiosity, are you guys able to upgrade the scout motor beyond what was done in the vs video series? I love my scout and would love to slap some more power into it.
Are you having problems finding a shop to do the tune? I installed a cam and waiting on on D&D exhaust and my dealership is telling me they won't have a problem doing the tune but everything I hear is making me nervous.
For 22’ models, Harley changed some things and they don’t tune like models before 2020. As per what Dynojet told us, we’re 1 of 3 shops currently tuning 2022 models bc of this change.
I got a weird question for you. 2018 Road King with the M8 of course but I got cheap slip ons from a buddy from his 2011 Streetglide. As you know the size of the exhausts are different. So what effects if any by putting the smaller slip on from a Twin Cam with a reducer to the M8 bigger pipe on the right side? Would it be harmful to the engine, just effect performance or sound? For anyone that will comment and say why I did that.... Because I'm not made of money and that was one of the slip ons I was really interested in and I thought for half the price I could make it work. 🤷♂Just interested to see what some professionals thought.
We had an old victory 96ci make 129whp/120 tq. (I have the actual Dyno Sheet to prove it). Just a cam/intake/tune. Odd to see such low numbers out of this 117.
I actually thought it would have been alot higher..The Dyna lowrider s 117 is getting more power with a twin cam motor..People are getting higher numbers with different cams in the 114 M8's so I don't understand why it wasn't alot higher 🤷♂️
Agreed, I've seen 118 hp and 130lbs of torque with a 114ci & 475 cam. I'm running a 114 and 475 cam with bassani pipes and make 110hp and 120lbs of torque only because I have my baffle out.
H-D and most mfgs measure power at the crank, whereas we’re measuring power at the wheel, after the drivetrain. There’s usually about a 15% loss of power through the drivetrain 👍🏼
Should be called a stage 25! Cuz Chris the master level tech worked his magic on it!!!
then next year called a stage 26 (then you get people comparing their stage 25 and stage 26 and so on XD
The 475 cam was my favorite cam choice when I was looking and have no regrets with my choice
too small
Got me excited because just today I got the ball rolling for a stage 2 upgrade on my new 2022 Street Glide ST M8 117ci. Zippers Red Shift 468 cam kit, SE Tune (to not void warranty), TAB slip-ons w/Zombie baffles. Psyched!
Man, that bike sounds good! Always enjoy seeing Chris in his element. The mechanics episodes have gotten increasingly interesting to me, and I really enjoy attempting to learn what I can from them.
I also noticed the giveaway Road Glide had some blue and gold additions to it. Lookin snazzy!
you wont learn much here pal that bike sound bad for a harley, put a real pipe on that bike and it will sounf right
Looking forward to more 22 fxlrs tune videos. Definitely interested in seeing other 2-1 pipe and cam numbers.
Bad ass! I'd love to learn more about the risers and gauge relocation on that bike.
What do you wanna know?
Bro, I remember when you first got the sporty. So happy to see you doing so well, for real
Thanks man!
American success story. His hard work and deligence got him here. good job man.
Just started following you a couple of days ago and watched your learning to ride videos. Took on an interest to ride within the last monthI left a comment on there thanking you, but just want to say it again.
You’re an awesome teacher, and I am happy to announce my basic rider course is next week and I’ll be making my purchase within the next month!
Thank you once again for breaking everything down and making it not only easier to understand, but giving confidence while you do! Godspeed friend!
Thanks rjames, glad the videos helped!
Harley in Alaska doing tunes on 22’s. Holler at your boy!
FuelMoto is currently tuning the ‘21s. I had them build me a map for my RG.
Badass I can't wait to stage 2 on my 22 lowrider s
Aww the saddle man seat fighting after the rips 😂😂😂
That step up holds ya in nice! Lol
Chris hitting us with the dance moves, he's such a cool guy
I got a 2021 Softail Standard that i put on a dyno and got stage 1 kit, have 91HP and 150NM in that bike now.
That’s an awesome bike to have as a blank canvas! Options are endless !
Great bike!
Good to know just picked up a 22 fxlrs, thanks block !
Congrats! Come see us when you’re ready to throw on some performance 🤘🏼
I need to ride over and check you guys out . Always great vids
New rider here. Only been riding sport bikes (125 and 250) but I have my eye on the 2022 Lowrider S. Really find your videos informative and fun to watch. Keep up the good work 👏
Did you get it?
@@bbii125 most definitely did. I picked it up in October and put about 1k miles in the first month!
I have it in the shop now getting a TBR Turnout exhaust, some risers, and a new seat put on!
I absolutely love the bike.
Another great video. Glad your channel is going awesome. First of all I love the direction of Harley. The Sportster S and Pan America are outstanding. Finally the 117 into a smaller lighter bike, thx Harley. I think Harley has seen what happened in 2008 with the Big 3 moving from fleet sales to world sales. They went Bankrupt trying to catch up as they waited too long. GM in 2008 bailout, Ford 2009 bailout. I have owned 30 bikes, never a Harley almost bought a Fat Bob 2 years ago but bought a Super Duke Instead. Less weight, more horsepower, stability control, traction control, Abs standard. I am over 60. I can not do 800 pound bikes. If the Sportster S was available That may have changed my mind as lighter, more horsepower and standard electronic aids. I raced professional motocross and flat track in the 60-70’s. I still want safety aids as I am not constantly 100% focused at times. RDRS should be standard on all Harley’s not an option on touring bikes. It’s for safety. Ducati, BMW, KTM, offer stability control standard. Stability control mandated 2012 for cars. Euro 5 requires TC. Harley would also benefit with electronic suspension. Look forward to next video.
Another satisfied customer. Great video!
I have a 22 FXLRS with the S&S 475 kit and D&D SOFTAIL M8 LOW CAT UP-SWEPT EXHAUST and it gets 135 max lbs at 3.9 RPM.
This is what I wanted to see… I heard blockhead talking about going with D&D in the future. I have a tbr turnout pipe on my ‘20 FXLRS and just ordered a D&D bob cat. 10-12 week wait😣 but comparing same mods looks like you got 10 more ft lbs of torque with those pipes. Seems like it’ll be well worth the wait!
@@ryantidwell19 not only more hp and torque, but a better progression of power and torque across the entire RPM range.
Ohhhh yeahhhh block with the new hand tatt lookin sweet
Welp.... I have a 2021 with a 131 and I'm waiting to finish the warranty to change the cam... one more year to go!
Like the new (I think) tattoo!
Thanks!
I love the way this exhaust sounds 😊…..
you Guys are So Cool I wish i can get a kit in my softail
Nice bike. Love the sound of the pipes and cam. The fairing and bars aren't my style, so that is the only thing I would do different. The black looks so much better than that primer gray.
That dude looks like a bad man on that thing too.
Another 🥶 build with @Sickwideglide
Block, let's see some other cams...please please
I consistently see the same 4-5 cam swaps. I'd love to see you do a MaxCell 821, CR483 or something from Ward Performance, or T-Man
Nice new “job stopper” on your hand mate.
Thanks. Asked my boss if I could get it and he was cool with it 😅
customer trying so hard not to swear XD, sounds so good
Lol, he did well 😆
@@BlockheadMoto yeh, can be difficult to keep it in sometimes XD
Thats AWESOME....also the viewers need to consider that your Dyno is super reserved compared to most of the dealer dyno's...(dunno how the dealers find all these "magic" dynos) On the dyno that Chris used to use, that thing would have made another 10 hp and ft-lbs of torque..LOLZ. FYI...my dyno guy is definitely doing 2021/2022 bikes...
Love these videos. When I eventually get my hands on a Harley I'll be able to remove more than 1 bolt 😂
Saving to update mine
Finally the good content!
was jus thinking that.
Another satisfied client from the Blockhead garage, I c. Cody's his name, huh?
I’m jealous of that man, that’s cool for him to own that bike
my top speed on the highway with a stock '23 117 was over 125mph..... with a stage 1 Power Vision 4 tune - straight drag pipes - stock "HF" air cleaner I got it to 131mph with a little room to go ;)
I can confirm not a lot of people are tuning 21 & later softail’s. I’ve been told it’s due to DOT regulation.
Got my 117 in order. Can’t wait to get it. Great vid. 👌🏾
i have the same 2022 bike with the same exhaust and i wanna do the same stage 2 on mine!
Awesome video and the customers reaction was cool.
I just love to ride, I am have never been interested in bore kits etc. On my new 107 2017 Street Glide special up from my 2006 Road King I do a stage one and gear cam kit that’s it aside from adding full LED lighting. Now I did install a fan assisted oil cooler on my 2017 to help with cooling. I already paid for the bike and not going to pay twice.
Congrats with the new garage.
Sounds F_______ Nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dynojet technology combined with Chris/Sickwideglide, is a match made in Heaven.
(Drop in a little "horsepower dust", and it's the whole package!
Another informative and entertaining video. Keep them coming Block.
Would like to see a dyno with a twin exit exhaust and sounds
That thing sounds badass!!
Bike sounds mean Fam. Great share. 🤙🏾🔥
Sounds Beastly!! You have successfully gone to Plaid!! You should buckle up Sir. Ahh Buckle this.. 💪
That's a cool looking shop ya'll have there. Nice
My 2020 SGS 114 to 117 stage 3 kit got 114 HP 119 TQ
Moonshine worked their magic now it is getting 124hp 131 TQ
Nice! What did Moonshine do exactly?
Very cool. Loved your vids! I'm in Central FL. Maybe I'll bring my Indian Scout by some time.
Man I envy some people. I’d love to go into a 2:1 but don’t want the warranty voided.
Would you or Chris be able to elaborate on wether going 2:1 with the Screamin’ Eagle turner will actually void your powertrain warranty or not?
I see that S&S makes a 50 state legal 2:1 with the cat built in. If a normal 2:1 would void your warranty would you be ok with the 50 state legal S&S because it has a cat built in leaving the warranty intact?
I trust your opinions more than others online and Chris with 25 years experience and being a Master Tech speaks a lot for itself.
Thank you 🙏 love the videos as well.
Talk to your dealer and see if they will work with you ... I just have to remind mine DO NOT PLUG IT IN...
@@njachtschitz yeah could do that but I’d rather play on the side of caution and not mess with it. All it takes is 1 person to plug it in accidentally because they missed the note and your done.
@@KamberBCT the M8 is an amazing engine, and with the cam kit you replace its arguable weak point, the oil pump and cam plate. you will be fine...
If you have the screamin eagle tuner with it, it shouldnt. Even if your local dealer says yes it would just put the stock back on if you need warranty work.
Would be interested to see you guys do a video on the wood WM8-22XD cam
What cam?....475?
Stage 2 is the best dollar per dollar kit.
Looks awesome!
Hasn’t the 117 lowrider s all ready have a cam installed greet video.
Sweet! That sounds awesome. Nice new tattoo, also!
That’s a really good increase! Good info!
I've been watching your videos ever since I bought my 2020 Lowrider S in November of 2020. And I enjoyed watching your build series on Goldzilla. My question is how do the horsepower and torque numbers of the stage 2 117 compare to the all Harley 131 kit for the Lowrider S?
I want the 22 low rider S so bad!
Could you do a review of your rokform case and mount
Anyone explain why the 114 is getting as good or better numbers than the 117? I was expecting 120 hp and 130 TQ at least.
I really want this answer too
I've heard that the heavy breather elite or whatever ita called that comes stock on the 2022 117ci is very restrictive and can rob 7 to 10 hp. (Don't shoot thr messenger just what I'm hearing in forums.) Maybe thay accounts for the difference in power between the 114 stage 2 and 117 stage 2?
Love the channel man. Thinking to buy my first harley. How reliable has been your low rider s so far? I debated between indian and HD. But the service and endless customization options convinced ms to go with HD. I am still debating on which model to go for. I would like to do some longer rides. Full day/several day trips but i also want sportier more classic looking bike.
Most the benefit of stage 2 is the higher rpm near redline. Most people do not go around redlining their Harley. Engines mods are the most expensive mods for the least amount of horsepower. Buy the power from the factory without need of stage 2-4. The Sportster S and Pan American are the most powerful bikes, horsepower/weight, Harley offers. Liquid cooling really helps with horsepower with reliability. Harley needs a touring bike with the sportster S frame(lighter) and offer the Pan America motor. No mods needed. The newer bikes offer RDRS standard(Sportster, PA) which controls wheelie and traction which is needed in higher performance Harley’s.
I mean you can put $3000-$4000 into the motor of an old $4000 used Sportster and put down 120-130hp on the Dyno. But it's definitely going to be a raw experience and a death trap with stock sporty suspension, brakes, no abs, no traction control, etc.
Mean Machine!!!
@blockhead do I see hand tattoos now bro?! 🙌🏻
Yezzir! 🤘🏼
No premiere! That sucks. But at least we got a video 😁
Chris is a savage. 💪🏾
Thanks for the videos!
What a sick bike !!! Sheesh!!
I've subscribed to you for a while now didn't know you had a garage bro. I live in Central Florida. would love to visit the garage and ride with you guys bro I got a 2020 low rider s
If I did not live in idaho then I would 100% bring my LRS in lol
Minneapolis is the furthest we’ve had so far I think!
First ride on a Milwaukee 8 with a Stage II is a pucker moment. Ask me how I know.
Lol, definitely!
Loved the low rider I rode today sporty s made me almost soil myself 😳
Is it because you’ve never rode a fast motorcycle?
@@chazarkansas1366 I don’t know if you directed that at me, but yeah I started with a sportster 1200. It was like going from a BB gun to 50 cal lol
@@kylecorcoran8028 notice how your name isnt tagged. Therefore im replying to the OP
.....also....cool workspace.
YO DID YOU ACTUALLY GOT THE HAND TATTED
Chris seems to have got some new tatts as well
Yezzir! And yeah Chris has some new ones also, haha
great video, which cam kit did you install?
I have a 2019 fxbb 107, dnd fat cat exhaust, hpi air cleaner, s&s 475 cam. On paper dyno 112hp 124trq
Awesome motorcycle about to be double Awesome!!.....Love your channel for sure.
Dameon @gms racing out of uniontown PA is tuning dynojet if anyone is looking up north
Good stuff
That new tatoo!
That sounded mint 👍🏻🇦🇺
Just out of curiosity, are you guys able to upgrade the scout motor beyond what was done in the vs video series? I love my scout and would love to slap some more power into it.
Been trying to contact you guys on a quote to install a Barnett clutch on my bike !!
great vid
Everyone and their mom is looking for info on risers that work with the new gauge. What are those risers on this one?
I literally wrote a parts list for 9.5" risers and it was deleted.
Can I drive down my 22 low rider s from Massachusetts for a tune? I installed a 2-1 but can’t get a tune
Are you having problems finding a shop to do the tune? I installed a cam and waiting on on D&D exhaust and my dealership is telling me they won't have a problem doing the tune but everything I hear is making me nervous.
More than welcome to come on down! Fill out the form on our site and we’ll get you on the schedule 🤘🏼 www.BlockheadGarage.com
For 22’ models, Harley changed some things and they don’t tune like models before 2020. As per what Dynojet told us, we’re 1 of 3 shops currently tuning 2022 models bc of this change.
Anyone know what sissy bar is on thay FXLRS? Love the coiled metal look.
I got a weird question for you. 2018 Road King with the M8 of course but I got cheap slip ons from a buddy from his 2011 Streetglide. As you know the size of the exhausts are different. So what effects if any by putting the smaller slip on from a Twin Cam with a reducer to the M8 bigger pipe on the right side? Would it be harmful to the engine, just effect performance or sound? For anyone that will comment and say why I did that.... Because I'm not made of money and that was one of the slip ons I was really interested in and I thought for half the price I could make it work. 🤷♂Just interested to see what some professionals thought.
We had an old victory 96ci make 129whp/120 tq. (I have the actual Dyno Sheet to prove it). Just a cam/intake/tune.
Odd to see such low numbers out of this 117.
Those aren't low numbers and we are not watching victory videos. But cool........
@@donaldpeck3192 yes they are low numbers get real
@@billgonzales8978 ya ok. Get a life .
I actually thought it would have been alot higher..The Dyna lowrider s 117 is getting more power with a twin cam motor..People are getting higher numbers with different cams in the 114 M8's so I don't understand why it wasn't alot higher 🤷♂️
Agreed, I've seen 118 hp and 130lbs of torque with a 114ci & 475 cam. I'm running a 114 and 475 cam with bassani pipes and make 110hp and 120lbs of torque only because I have my baffle out.
@@mason5545 my buddy is making 131 ft lbs of torque on his 22 RGS with the 114. Actually disappointed with the 22 Low Rider S final numbers.
I just spotted new ink
Great video but which cam did you use ?
Hey BLOCKHEAD. Was just wandering if the customer changed his bars and if he did, were there any issues with the gauge?
How much of a MPG hit should he expect from that setup over stock? I’m looking to do the same setup on my 2023 Street Glide ST 117.
So didn’t harley say 125ft torque? Or am I wrong?
Jessssssuuuussss that thing sounds insane
H-D and most mfgs measure power at the crank, whereas we’re measuring power at the wheel, after the drivetrain. There’s usually about a 15% loss of power through the drivetrain 👍🏼
@@BlockheadMoto gotcha ok. None the less man sounds freaking mean.