Got me excited because just today I got the ball rolling for a stage 2 upgrade on my new 2022 Street Glide ST M8 117ci. Zippers Red Shift 468 cam kit, SE Tune (to not void warranty), TAB slip-ons w/Zombie baffles. Psyched!
Man, that bike sounds good! Always enjoy seeing Chris in his element. The mechanics episodes have gotten increasingly interesting to me, and I really enjoy attempting to learn what I can from them. I also noticed the giveaway Road Glide had some blue and gold additions to it. Lookin snazzy!
Just started following you a couple of days ago and watched your learning to ride videos. Took on an interest to ride within the last monthI left a comment on there thanking you, but just want to say it again. You’re an awesome teacher, and I am happy to announce my basic rider course is next week and I’ll be making my purchase within the next month! Thank you once again for breaking everything down and making it not only easier to understand, but giving confidence while you do! Godspeed friend!
Another great video. Glad your channel is going awesome. First of all I love the direction of Harley. The Sportster S and Pan America are outstanding. Finally the 117 into a smaller lighter bike, thx Harley. I think Harley has seen what happened in 2008 with the Big 3 moving from fleet sales to world sales. They went Bankrupt trying to catch up as they waited too long. GM in 2008 bailout, Ford 2009 bailout. I have owned 30 bikes, never a Harley almost bought a Fat Bob 2 years ago but bought a Super Duke Instead. Less weight, more horsepower, stability control, traction control, Abs standard. I am over 60. I can not do 800 pound bikes. If the Sportster S was available That may have changed my mind as lighter, more horsepower and standard electronic aids. I raced professional motocross and flat track in the 60-70’s. I still want safety aids as I am not constantly 100% focused at times. RDRS should be standard on all Harley’s not an option on touring bikes. It’s for safety. Ducati, BMW, KTM, offer stability control standard. Stability control mandated 2012 for cars. Euro 5 requires TC. Harley would also benefit with electronic suspension. Look forward to next video.
New rider here. Only been riding sport bikes (125 and 250) but I have my eye on the 2022 Lowrider S. Really find your videos informative and fun to watch. Keep up the good work 👏
@@Jsanchez52 most definitely did. I picked it up in October and put about 1k miles in the first month! I have it in the shop now getting a TBR Turnout exhaust, some risers, and a new seat put on! I absolutely love the bike.
Most the benefit of stage 2 is the higher rpm near redline. Most people do not go around redlining their Harley. Engines mods are the most expensive mods for the least amount of horsepower. Buy the power from the factory without need of stage 2-4. The Sportster S and Pan American are the most powerful bikes, horsepower/weight, Harley offers. Liquid cooling really helps with horsepower with reliability. Harley needs a touring bike with the sportster S frame(lighter) and offer the Pan America motor. No mods needed. The newer bikes offer RDRS standard(Sportster, PA) which controls wheelie and traction which is needed in higher performance Harley’s.
I mean you can put $3000-$4000 into the motor of an old $4000 used Sportster and put down 120-130hp on the Dyno. But it's definitely going to be a raw experience and a death trap with stock sporty suspension, brakes, no abs, no traction control, etc.
Yes, but isn't what buyers in this segment seek is that Harley "character"? That only comes with air/oil-cooled engines. Even though these Stage 2 and cam updates make the engine more powerful like the state-of the-art water-cooled RevoMax engines, it still retains the "feel" of the air/oil cooled engine that is apparently very pleasurable.
This is what I wanted to see… I heard blockhead talking about going with D&D in the future. I have a tbr turnout pipe on my ‘20 FXLRS and just ordered a D&D bob cat. 10-12 week wait😣 but comparing same mods looks like you got 10 more ft lbs of torque with those pipes. Seems like it’ll be well worth the wait!
my top speed on the highway with a stock '23 117 was over 125mph..... with a stage 1 Power Vision 4 tune - straight drag pipes - stock "HF" air cleaner I got it to 131mph with a little room to go ;)
Nice bike. Love the sound of the pipes and cam. The fairing and bars aren't my style, so that is the only thing I would do different. The black looks so much better than that primer gray.
Thats AWESOME....also the viewers need to consider that your Dyno is super reserved compared to most of the dealer dyno's...(dunno how the dealers find all these "magic" dynos) On the dyno that Chris used to use, that thing would have made another 10 hp and ft-lbs of torque..LOLZ. FYI...my dyno guy is definitely doing 2021/2022 bikes...
Block, let's see some other cams...please please I consistently see the same 4-5 cam swaps. I'd love to see you do a MaxCell 821, CR483 or something from Ward Performance, or T-Man
I just love to ride, I am have never been interested in bore kits etc. On my new 107 2017 Street Glide special up from my 2006 Road King I do a stage one and gear cam kit that’s it aside from adding full LED lighting. Now I did install a fan assisted oil cooler on my 2017 to help with cooling. I already paid for the bike and not going to pay twice.
I've been watching your videos ever since I bought my 2020 Lowrider S in November of 2020. And I enjoyed watching your build series on Goldzilla. My question is how do the horsepower and torque numbers of the stage 2 117 compare to the all Harley 131 kit for the Lowrider S?
What’s the best tuner out there? I know SE is about to come out with a new one but I would like to just buy one and be done and be able to build my bike without having to buy another
I've heard that the heavy breather elite or whatever ita called that comes stock on the 2022 117ci is very restrictive and can rob 7 to 10 hp. (Don't shoot thr messenger just what I'm hearing in forums.) Maybe thay accounts for the difference in power between the 114 stage 2 and 117 stage 2?
Love the channel man. Thinking to buy my first harley. How reliable has been your low rider s so far? I debated between indian and HD. But the service and endless customization options convinced ms to go with HD. I am still debating on which model to go for. I would like to do some longer rides. Full day/several day trips but i also want sportier more classic looking bike.
Hi there, I was watching one of you videos and you said you were changing out the two brothers for the D&D exhaust. Have you done that and if so how does it do as far as power gain. thanks
Anyone in Northern CA that you'd recommend to do this? I just purchased a 2023 Lowrider S with the 117. I come from sport bikes and I love this bike, but it feels like it's holding back a bit.
I got a weird question for you. 2018 Road King with the M8 of course but I got cheap slip ons from a buddy from his 2011 Streetglide. As you know the size of the exhausts are different. So what effects if any by putting the smaller slip on from a Twin Cam with a reducer to the M8 bigger pipe on the right side? Would it be harmful to the engine, just effect performance or sound? For anyone that will comment and say why I did that.... Because I'm not made of money and that was one of the slip ons I was really interested in and I thought for half the price I could make it work. 🤷♂Just interested to see what some professionals thought.
Would you mind explaining the whole maps issue with 2021 and over softail’s? I’ve been told there are no maps to tune a 2021 softail slim? So can I stage it as long as I’m willing to void my warranty?
H-D and most mfgs measure power at the crank, whereas we’re measuring power at the wheel, after the drivetrain. There’s usually about a 15% loss of power through the drivetrain 👍🏼
Have you ever had any issues with this exhaust? I hear alot of bad reviews on them from people who ride hard and also is this exhaust as bas as everyone says for making hp/tq? Compared to others like d&d, stealth, hpi if so are we talking minimal numbers or 20+ hp?
Just out of curiosity, are you guys able to upgrade the scout motor beyond what was done in the vs video series? I love my scout and would love to slap some more power into it.
Hi all. What is it like to ride a sprung seat bobber bike compared too, well a `normal` bike. Comfy or raw, distance doable or no way jose. Replies from owners very welcome.
Should be called a stage 25! Cuz Chris the master level tech worked his magic on it!!!
then next year called a stage 26 (then you get people comparing their stage 25 and stage 26 and so on XD
The 475 cam was my favorite cam choice when I was looking and have no regrets with my choice
too small
Got me excited because just today I got the ball rolling for a stage 2 upgrade on my new 2022 Street Glide ST M8 117ci. Zippers Red Shift 468 cam kit, SE Tune (to not void warranty), TAB slip-ons w/Zombie baffles. Psyched!
Man, that bike sounds good! Always enjoy seeing Chris in his element. The mechanics episodes have gotten increasingly interesting to me, and I really enjoy attempting to learn what I can from them.
I also noticed the giveaway Road Glide had some blue and gold additions to it. Lookin snazzy!
you wont learn much here pal that bike sound bad for a harley, put a real pipe on that bike and it will sounf right
American success story. His hard work and deligence got him here. good job man.
Bro, I remember when you first got the sporty. So happy to see you doing so well, for real
Thanks man!
Looking forward to more 22 fxlrs tune videos. Definitely interested in seeing other 2-1 pipe and cam numbers.
Just started following you a couple of days ago and watched your learning to ride videos. Took on an interest to ride within the last monthI left a comment on there thanking you, but just want to say it again.
You’re an awesome teacher, and I am happy to announce my basic rider course is next week and I’ll be making my purchase within the next month!
Thank you once again for breaking everything down and making it not only easier to understand, but giving confidence while you do! Godspeed friend!
Thanks rjames, glad the videos helped!
Bad ass! I'd love to learn more about the risers and gauge relocation on that bike.
What do you wanna know?
FuelMoto is currently tuning the ‘21s. I had them build me a map for my RG.
Badass I can't wait to stage 2 on my 22 lowrider s
Chris hitting us with the dance moves, he's such a cool guy
Another great video. Glad your channel is going awesome. First of all I love the direction of Harley. The Sportster S and Pan America are outstanding. Finally the 117 into a smaller lighter bike, thx Harley. I think Harley has seen what happened in 2008 with the Big 3 moving from fleet sales to world sales. They went Bankrupt trying to catch up as they waited too long. GM in 2008 bailout, Ford 2009 bailout. I have owned 30 bikes, never a Harley almost bought a Fat Bob 2 years ago but bought a Super Duke Instead. Less weight, more horsepower, stability control, traction control, Abs standard. I am over 60. I can not do 800 pound bikes. If the Sportster S was available That may have changed my mind as lighter, more horsepower and standard electronic aids. I raced professional motocross and flat track in the 60-70’s. I still want safety aids as I am not constantly 100% focused at times. RDRS should be standard on all Harley’s not an option on touring bikes. It’s for safety. Ducati, BMW, KTM, offer stability control standard. Stability control mandated 2012 for cars. Euro 5 requires TC. Harley would also benefit with electronic suspension. Look forward to next video.
Ohhhh yeahhhh block with the new hand tatt lookin sweet
New rider here. Only been riding sport bikes (125 and 250) but I have my eye on the 2022 Lowrider S. Really find your videos informative and fun to watch. Keep up the good work 👏
Did you get it?
@@Jsanchez52 most definitely did. I picked it up in October and put about 1k miles in the first month!
I have it in the shop now getting a TBR Turnout exhaust, some risers, and a new seat put on!
I absolutely love the bike.
Harley in Alaska doing tunes on 22’s. Holler at your boy!
First ride on a Milwaukee 8 with a Stage II is a pucker moment. Ask me how I know.
Lol, definitely!
Loved the low rider I rode today sporty s made me almost soil myself 😳
Is it because you’ve never rode a fast motorcycle?
@@chazarkansas1366 I don’t know if you directed that at me, but yeah I started with a sportster 1200. It was like going from a BB gun to 50 cal lol
@@kylecorcoran8028 notice how your name isnt tagged. Therefore im replying to the OP
Another satisfied customer. Great video!
Good to know just picked up a 22 fxlrs, thanks block !
Congrats! Come see us when you’re ready to throw on some performance 🤘🏼
I got a 2021 Softail Standard that i put on a dyno and got stage 1 kit, have 91HP and 150NM in that bike now.
That’s an awesome bike to have as a blank canvas! Options are endless !
Great bike!
What cam?....475?
I can confirm not a lot of people are tuning 21 & later softail’s. I’ve been told it’s due to DOT regulation.
I need to ride over and check you guys out . Always great vids
Most the benefit of stage 2 is the higher rpm near redline. Most people do not go around redlining their Harley. Engines mods are the most expensive mods for the least amount of horsepower. Buy the power from the factory without need of stage 2-4. The Sportster S and Pan American are the most powerful bikes, horsepower/weight, Harley offers. Liquid cooling really helps with horsepower with reliability. Harley needs a touring bike with the sportster S frame(lighter) and offer the Pan America motor. No mods needed. The newer bikes offer RDRS standard(Sportster, PA) which controls wheelie and traction which is needed in higher performance Harley’s.
I mean you can put $3000-$4000 into the motor of an old $4000 used Sportster and put down 120-130hp on the Dyno. But it's definitely going to be a raw experience and a death trap with stock sporty suspension, brakes, no abs, no traction control, etc.
Yes, but isn't what buyers in this segment seek is that Harley "character"? That only comes with air/oil-cooled engines. Even though these Stage 2 and cam updates make the engine more powerful like the state-of the-art water-cooled RevoMax engines, it still retains the "feel" of the air/oil cooled engine that is apparently very pleasurable.
Congrats with the new garage.
Like the new (I think) tattoo!
Thanks!
I have a 22 FXLRS with the S&S 475 kit and D&D SOFTAIL M8 LOW CAT UP-SWEPT EXHAUST and it gets 135 max lbs at 3.9 RPM.
This is what I wanted to see… I heard blockhead talking about going with D&D in the future. I have a tbr turnout pipe on my ‘20 FXLRS and just ordered a D&D bob cat. 10-12 week wait😣 but comparing same mods looks like you got 10 more ft lbs of torque with those pipes. Seems like it’ll be well worth the wait!
@@ryantidwell19 not only more hp and torque, but a better progression of power and torque across the entire RPM range.
my top speed on the highway with a stock '23 117 was over 125mph..... with a stage 1 Power Vision 4 tune - straight drag pipes - stock "HF" air cleaner I got it to 131mph with a little room to go ;)
Nice bike. Love the sound of the pipes and cam. The fairing and bars aren't my style, so that is the only thing I would do different. The black looks so much better than that primer gray.
That dude looks like a bad man on that thing too.
Thats AWESOME....also the viewers need to consider that your Dyno is super reserved compared to most of the dealer dyno's...(dunno how the dealers find all these "magic" dynos) On the dyno that Chris used to use, that thing would have made another 10 hp and ft-lbs of torque..LOLZ. FYI...my dyno guy is definitely doing 2021/2022 bikes...
Block, let's see some other cams...please please
I consistently see the same 4-5 cam swaps. I'd love to see you do a MaxCell 821, CR483 or something from Ward Performance, or T-Man
Saving to update mine
Nice new “job stopper” on your hand mate.
Thanks. Asked my boss if I could get it and he was cool with it 😅
Welp.... I have a 2021 with a 131 and I'm waiting to finish the warranty to change the cam... one more year to go!
Another 🥶 build with @Sickwideglide
I love the way this exhaust sounds 😊…..
Could you do a review of your rokform case and mount
Awesome video and the customers reaction was cool.
Got my 117 in order. Can’t wait to get it. Great vid. 👌🏾
Hasn’t the 117 lowrider s all ready have a cam installed greet video.
I just love to ride, I am have never been interested in bore kits etc. On my new 107 2017 Street Glide special up from my 2006 Road King I do a stage one and gear cam kit that’s it aside from adding full LED lighting. Now I did install a fan assisted oil cooler on my 2017 to help with cooling. I already paid for the bike and not going to pay twice.
I’m jealous of that man, that’s cool for him to own that bike
Dynojet technology combined with Chris/Sickwideglide, is a match made in Heaven.
(Drop in a little "horsepower dust", and it's the whole package!
i have the same 2022 bike with the same exhaust and i wanna do the same stage 2 on mine!
Finally the good content!
was jus thinking that.
Aww the saddle man seat fighting after the rips 😂😂😂
That step up holds ya in nice! Lol
great video, which cam kit did you install?
Do you lose your engine warranty with this cam and tuner
Which one do u like. St or s
I have a street glide ST 2022 and would upgrade it to stage II, should I go with a S&S475C or 475G?
I've been watching your videos ever since I bought my 2020 Lowrider S in November of 2020. And I enjoyed watching your build series on Goldzilla. My question is how do the horsepower and torque numbers of the stage 2 117 compare to the all Harley 131 kit for the Lowrider S?
Another informative and entertaining video. Keep them coming Block.
Stage 2 is the best dollar per dollar kit.
How much of a MPG hit should he expect from that setup over stock? I’m looking to do the same setup on my 2023 Street Glide ST 117.
What’s the best tuner out there? I know SE is about to come out with a new one but I would like to just buy one and be done and be able to build my bike without having to buy another
What removes the limiters?? Interesting
That thing sounds badass!!
Anyone explain why the 114 is getting as good or better numbers than the 117? I was expecting 120 hp and 130 TQ at least.
I really want this answer too
I've heard that the heavy breather elite or whatever ita called that comes stock on the 2022 117ci is very restrictive and can rob 7 to 10 hp. (Don't shoot thr messenger just what I'm hearing in forums.) Maybe thay accounts for the difference in power between the 114 stage 2 and 117 stage 2?
Do you paint fairings?? Like umm maybe gunship grey
Do all stage 2’s remove that annoying ‘limiter’? Or is it something you have to ask for?
Would be interested to see you guys do a video on the wood WM8-22XD cam
I'm guessing this will void your factory warranty?
I have a 2022 low rider a with the 117 and just got the same pipe, what tuner do you recommend geting
you Guys are So Cool I wish i can get a kit in my softail
Love the channel man. Thinking to buy my first harley. How reliable has been your low rider s so far? I debated between indian and HD. But the service and endless customization options convinced ms to go with HD. I am still debating on which model to go for. I would like to do some longer rides. Full day/several day trips but i also want sportier more classic looking bike.
Hey BLOCKHEAD. Was just wandering if the customer changed his bars and if he did, were there any issues with the gauge?
Sounds F_______ Nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What’s the deal with the rear suspension? I dig it love tall bikes
Isnt there a break in period???
Are the limiters because it's new? 4300 is well below actual redline, right?
How long do you sit on a tattoo before you actually get it done?
Not sure what you mean, like how long do I think about what to get? Usually a few months to a few years, depends what it is 👍🏼
Hi there, I was watching one of you videos and you said you were changing out the two brothers for the D&D exhaust. Have you done that and if so how does it do as far as power gain. thanks
What’s the Harley death wobble ? What’s the cause and fix ? I’ve seen a couple videos on this topic.
What we looking at price wise for the stage 2? Ball Park?
Anyone in Northern CA that you'd recommend to do this? I just purchased a 2023 Lowrider S with the 117. I come from sport bikes and I love this bike, but it feels like it's holding back a bit.
Great video but which cam did you use ?
Bike sounds mean Fam. Great share. 🤙🏾🔥
Where is the shop out of again what state
Also did screaming eagle release a tuner map yet??
I got a weird question for you. 2018 Road King with the M8 of course but I got cheap slip ons from a buddy from his 2011 Streetglide. As you know the size of the exhausts are different. So what effects if any by putting the smaller slip on from a Twin Cam with a reducer to the M8 bigger pipe on the right side? Would it be harmful to the engine, just effect performance or sound? For anyone that will comment and say why I did that.... Because I'm not made of money and that was one of the slip ons I was really interested in and I thought for half the price I could make it work. 🤷♂Just interested to see what some professionals thought.
Would you mind explaining the whole maps issue with 2021 and over softail’s? I’ve been told there are no maps to tune a 2021 softail slim? So can I stage it as long as I’m willing to void my warranty?
Everyone and their mom is looking for info on risers that work with the new gauge. What are those risers on this one?
I literally wrote a parts list for 9.5" risers and it was deleted.
What can did he get
Would like to see a dyno with a twin exit exhaust and sounds
What does a stage 2 cost for a 2018 street glide M8
Would you put a turbo on it?
customer trying so hard not to swear XD, sounds so good
Lol, he did well 😆
@@BlockheadMoto yeh, can be difficult to keep it in sometimes XD
tell us how much all of this costs..
So didn’t harley say 125ft torque? Or am I wrong?
Jessssssuuuussss that thing sounds insane
H-D and most mfgs measure power at the crank, whereas we’re measuring power at the wheel, after the drivetrain. There’s usually about a 15% loss of power through the drivetrain 👍🏼
@@BlockheadMoto gotcha ok. None the less man sounds freaking mean.
My 2020 SGS 114 to 117 stage 3 kit got 114 HP 119 TQ
Moonshine worked their magic now it is getting 124hp 131 TQ
Nice! What did Moonshine do exactly?
Have you ever had any issues with this exhaust? I hear alot of bad reviews on them from people who ride hard and also is this exhaust as bas as everyone says for making hp/tq? Compared to others like d&d, stealth, hpi if so are we talking minimal numbers or 20+ hp?
Best 2into1 exhaust for 2022 117 m8? Preferably on the louder side
That’s a really good increase! Good info!
What risers and gauge relocation is those? Appreciate the help
What’s the sissy bars on the bike. Where they from
What type of exhaust?
Another satisfied client from the Blockhead garage, I c. Cody's his name, huh?
Just out of curiosity, are you guys able to upgrade the scout motor beyond what was done in the vs video series? I love my scout and would love to slap some more power into it.
Hi all. What is it like to ride a sprung seat bobber bike compared too, well a `normal` bike. Comfy or raw, distance doable or no way jose.
Replies from owners very welcome.
Sounds Beastly!! You have successfully gone to Plaid!! You should buckle up Sir. Ahh Buckle this.. 💪