Bill Ward is one of the greats. Both heavy and subtil. And very jazzy. He's got the "swing". He always play "for the song", and accentuate both Ozzy as well as the guitar licks from Tony. Together with bassist Geezer they formed one of the most effective rytm sections in our time.
Bill Ward, the drummer is so overlooked. He can bang some serious beats!! One thing that cracks me up about this video is the 2 mics taped together for Ozzy. Inferior equipment, yet they sound awesome! You can't say "drums" and not think of Neil Peart of Rush.
Bill ward is the secret weapon of Sabbath. The rest of the band is on the frontlines of the metal battle and Bill ward is in the back holding everything down while also making things sounds truly chaotic with that jazz drumming . I’m telling you bill ward was the secret weapon . And I’m a guitar player lol
Bill is more influential than 'great'. Sabbath were too underground and controversial back in the day for the critics to realise what a brilliant musician he was. Hell of a band.
For me, I would easily put Bill Ward up there with John Bonham, they would have known each other, they were both from Birmingham and that city's rock scene. Sabbath's musicianship tended to get overlooked, for some reason it wasn't, at the time, as appreciated as Led Zeppelin's was and tended to be considered not as subtle or sophisticated. I never felt so, it was just different, but Sabbath certainly had a more primal effect and more energy.
The acoustics in that venue I think contributed to the unique sound this has. That, and the fact they were killing it. Bill Ward was an animal on the drums
It sounds like the studio version because they recorded this entire album in 2-3 days live in the studio. They were all that good at what they did. The drums and bass rhythm section can make or break a band. Geezer on bass and Bill on drums were unstoppable. Tiny Iomi left his job to be full time with the band. His mother had him go back to finish his shift and he accidentally cut his finger tips off. He made thimbles for his fingers, used lighter strings and something else (I’m not a musician and I’m just repeating what I’ve heard). That lead to their unique sound.
Back in my day we either had to have a stereo or 8-track player in your car. I remember driving to work and blasting Black Sabbath from the 8-track player in my Camaro 🔥🔥🔥❤️☮️👵🏼
I love the fact that you’re looking up information on the band members. That’s a mark of a great reactor. I just recently found your channel, and I love it.
My absolute favorite group in the 70's , my fav song is "paranoid" , 'happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal'...Ozzy did great collab with Lita Ford called "close my eyes forever "!, great song!! Please check out!!
I saw them on one of the concert shows back in the mid-seventies, and I've been hooked ever since. I never got to see them live, but have every album they put out. Ozzy's solo and the many Black Sabbath incarnations. Just love it all.
The version they play at the concert “the end” is a tear jerker . The whole crowd chanting the lyrics then that last epic solo everyone in the whole crowd was balling their eyes out. Very powerful moment. It was the very last time theyll play those songs
I love Black Sabbath and the song War Pigs. I saw them perform this song live when they were touring and premoting the Paranoid album. I am a recent subscriber to your channel and I really enjoy your reactions. I would like to see you react to the song Inside Looking Out by Grand Funk Railroad. The live version from 1969. Thanks.
Bill ward is unique because of his style and influence. Everything he does has a basis in blues or jazz. He also considers himself a percussionist and favors a comping style.
Not dissing your possible knowledge, but do you know Tony Iommi's backstory? Before they hit it big, he was working in a factory - last day on the job - and an industrial accident cost him the tips of two of his fingers! He was despondent, thinking he might never play again, but he actually fashioned his own prosthetic fingertips from a melted dish detergent bottle. True story! One of my all-time musical heroes for his bravery.
1970in Paris. I'm 68. I've seen way over 100 great bands with great drummers, My favorites are # 1 . Bill Ward # 2. Don Brewer of Grand Funk Railroad...
Who is better doesn't exist, because they have different styles and strong points, then is a matter of taste... is relative, like guitar players, depending on the band they will do what is needed, not necessary they will show all their skills...some people focus on individual level at some point, others do all for the team not showing of... Danny Carey, Mike Portnoy, Eloy Casagrande...etc ... they are all different drummers but the best of what they do.
To me he is the best, and that's saying a lot, when you consider ho great Peart, Bonham, and Moon were, along with the others you can put in your top ten
My favourite drummer will always be John Bonham "Bonzo". Bill Ward is up there so is Ian Paice from Deep Purple. Check out, Highway Star by Deep Purple, live.
My top 5 is Peart, Ward, Bonham, Moon, Paice. It's so hard to put a number on who is the best with Peart, Ward and Bonham to me. All 3 of them were so damn good, it's hard to break it all down and what these guys bring to the table, most guys would kill for, ha
The sound of the Sabbath album doesn't give justice to Bill Ward fantastic drumming . "Sabotage" is the album where you can hear it fully . Check tracks like "Symptom of the Universe".
One of the great live performances for sure. Also the sound quality is insane for 1970 in a club in paris. It's a shame the bass is a bit low in the mix since Geezer Butler is kicking ass too but you really have to listen for it. Tony had his fingers cut off too in an industrial accident so he's playing with homemade plastic finger tips. Bill Ward is kick ass .. him and Neil Peart are my top 2. But a measure of a good band is when it's better live then it is in the studio The whole live in Paris 1970 recording is freaking amazing. At the same time another great one from 1970 is Chicago live at Tanglewood .. 65 or 6 to 4 being among the best but again.. the whole show is amazing. Give this a listen mate ua-cam.com/video/7uAUoz7jimg/v-deo.html Terry Kath and the band section holy crap! .. you'll love it
@@JohnSmith-oe4ci this is live in Paris right? or maybe Paris doesn't exist.. I can dig that. I tried to go to paris about 5 times and never got there.. ok be real.. Paris is real right.. or have I been duped?
@@worldfamouslanglois4805 not really sure what your saying but it was in Brussels for a show called "Pop Shop" which was recorded in October 1970 ua-cam.com/video/U_BfoT1Ye4Y/v-deo.html
You need to specify ROCK/metal drummers. Otherwise, you’ll get jazz drummers included. A very different animal. I would put Ward in top 20 rock drummers, easily. Keith Moon, John Bonham, Ian Paice, Neal Peart, Phil Collins, Steve Gadd, Michael Lee, Lars Ulrich…..a dozen others..
Sabbath are awesome, but I think the years that Dio did lead vocals were the better years. But I love all of sabbaths stuff. Sabbath, deep purple, zeppelin were the pioneers of heavy metal. I think sabbath were one of the first bands to use double bass drums which give their music a heavier deeper bass sound. You should check out Australian legend John Farnham, with over 5 decades of great Aussie music, in many genres.
every musician in this band is considered a great in their field of instruments, and dont sleep on the bass player, Geezer Butler arguably has better licks/riffs/bass lines than Toni in some songs.
Thing about this song, is it feels so very Jimi Hendrix to me, especially with what Tony Iommi is doing on it. Just one more step dirtier. Jimi passed only 2 years before this came out, so it's not a huge reach to theorize that he was a huge influence on early Sabbath. And yeah, Bill Ward eats that whole drum kit on this one.
The last verse played here was the original verse before they changed it. The original song was more santantic themed and morphed into more of an anti-war song which was more marketable. The last verse on the album was about the merchants of war going to hell and getting what they deserved.
My opinion 1, is Bozo 2. Keith Moon 3, Neil 4th has to be Tommy Rich as far as skill he was amazing but he more Big band and Jazz as far as rock Bill Ward Yes Neil from Rush is great but he is surrounded by drums the others play way smaller kits!
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Bill Ward is one of the greats. Both heavy and subtil. And very jazzy. He's got the "swing". He always play "for the song", and accentuate both Ozzy as well as the guitar licks from Tony. Together with bassist Geezer they formed one of the most effective rytm sections in our time.
Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple are my top 3 ever! We had such diverse and amazing music back in the 70s
The unholy Trinity !
Bill Ward, the drummer is so overlooked. He can bang some serious beats!! One thing that cracks me up about this video is the 2 mics taped together for Ozzy. Inferior equipment, yet they sound awesome! You can't say "drums" and not think of Neil Peart of Rush.
Bill ward is the secret weapon of Sabbath. The rest of the band is on the frontlines of the metal battle and Bill ward is in the back holding everything down while also making things sounds truly chaotic with that jazz drumming . I’m telling you bill ward was the secret weapon . And I’m a guitar player lol
SabaTh is the first Heavy MeTaL Band
The guitar tone and sound set the standard
Their dark edgy lyrics
Great Fucking Band !
🤘🏼🤘🏼
Bill is more influential than 'great'. Sabbath were too underground and controversial back in the day for the critics to realise what a brilliant musician he was. Hell of a band.
Bill Ward was a beast! Ozzy was his spirit animal and completely in tune with him.
For me, I would easily put Bill Ward up there with John Bonham, they would have known each other, they were both from Birmingham and that city's rock scene. Sabbath's musicianship tended to get overlooked, for some reason it wasn't, at the time, as appreciated as Led Zeppelin's was and tended to be considered not as subtle or sophisticated. I never felt so, it was just different, but Sabbath certainly had a more primal effect and more energy.
The acoustics in that venue I think contributed to the unique sound this has. That, and the fact they were killing it. Bill Ward was an animal on the drums
Bill Ward, Keith Moon and all them were great friends.
It sounds like the studio version because they recorded this entire album in 2-3 days live in the studio. They were all that good at what they did. The drums and bass rhythm section can make or break a band. Geezer on bass and Bill on drums were unstoppable. Tiny Iomi left his job to be full time with the band. His mother had him go back to finish his shift and he accidentally cut his finger tips off. He made thimbles for his fingers, used lighter strings and something else (I’m not a musician and I’m just repeating what I’ve heard). That lead to their unique sound.
The title of this is Live in Paris 1970. Ozzy was just 21. Bill Ward going nuts on the drums. One if the best drummers ever!
This performance should be listed as one of the heaviest things known to man... Bill ward was crushing mountains and creating canyons
On your own, watch the entire concert. Worth it :)
Bill Ward!! Your welcome sir!!
Back in my day we either had to have a stereo or 8-track player in your car. I remember driving to work and blasting Black Sabbath from the 8-track player in my Camaro 🔥🔥🔥❤️☮️👵🏼
I love the fact that you’re looking up information on the band members. That’s a mark of a great reactor. I just recently found your channel, and I love it.
Happy you enjoyed, thank you!!!
The Drummer!!!! ❤️❤️❤️✌️
His stamina is unreal.
Bill Ward beats the drums like he's pissed at them and it is everything! Ozzy is the ultimate frontrunner of live preformance.
My absolute favorite group in the 70's , my fav song is "paranoid" , 'happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal'...Ozzy did great collab with Lita Ford called "close my eyes forever "!, great song!! Please check out!!
1970 live that Paris performance sound the best ever
I saw them on one of the concert shows back in the mid-seventies, and I've been hooked ever since. I never got to see them live, but have every album they put out. Ozzy's solo and the many Black Sabbath incarnations. Just love it all.
BILL WARD legendary drummer!
The version they play at the concert “the end” is a tear jerker . The whole crowd chanting the lyrics then that last epic solo everyone in the whole crowd was balling their eyes out. Very powerful moment. It was the very last time theyll play those songs
My opinion...Bill Ward and Black Sabbath...#1 drummer, #1 band...all time, anytime, every time 🤘🤩🤘
2nd for me, Led Zeppelin no 1😁
Wow Ryan, over Bonham???
Best drummer, best riff guitarist, best bass guitarist. 2nd greatest frontman ever. I would say Lazy is no.1, but Freddy Mercury existed
@@MMBxMOB Bonham is great, no doubt. Led Zep=Rock gods...But...The sound of Black Sabbath I feel in my soul.
I love Black Sabbath and the song War Pigs. I saw them perform this song live when they were touring and premoting the Paranoid album. I am a recent subscriber to your channel and I really enjoy your reactions. I would like to see you react to the song Inside Looking Out by Grand Funk Railroad. The live version from 1969. Thanks.
You are so lucky James, did you enjoy the Sabbath show???
@@MMBxMOB The show was awesome and the song War Pigs was as good as the video you watched. They were an excellent live band.
This video was in Paris, 1970. It looks like they were all kids.
Bill ward is unique because of his style and influence. Everything he does has a basis in blues or jazz. He also considers himself a percussionist and favors a comping style.
Not dissing your possible knowledge, but do you know Tony Iommi's backstory? Before they hit it big, he was working in a factory - last day on the job - and an industrial accident cost him the tips of two of his fingers! He was despondent, thinking he might never play again, but he actually fashioned his own prosthetic fingertips from a melted dish detergent bottle. True story! One of my all-time musical heroes for his bravery.
Side note Tony iomi has wooden finger tips they got cut off in a work accident
Bill just beats them wit a vengeance!!!
1970in Paris. I'm 68. I've seen way over 100 great bands with great drummers, My favorites are # 1 . Bill Ward # 2. Don Brewer of Grand Funk Railroad...
Black Sabbath, Sabbath bloody Sabbath, NIB, Iron Man
Who is better doesn't exist, because they have different styles and strong points, then is a matter of taste... is relative, like guitar players, depending on the band they will do what is needed, not necessary they will show all their skills...some people focus on individual level at some point, others do all for the team not showing of... Danny Carey, Mike Portnoy, Eloy Casagrande...etc ... they are all different drummers but the best of what they do.
Bill wards drumming on this
To me he is the best, and that's saying a lot, when you consider ho great Peart, Bonham, and Moon were, along with the others you can put in your top ten
That being said, I don't think you have checked our Rush yet, their drummer Neil Peart bus amazing
You must react of "hand of doom" by Sabbath, if you like base and drums. react to it compadre..
The year of this performance is 1970, so Ozzy was 21 or 22 years old here, mate.
My favourite drummer will always be John Bonham "Bonzo". Bill Ward is up there so is Ian Paice from Deep Purple. Check out, Highway Star by Deep Purple, live.
My top 5 is Peart, Ward, Bonham, Moon, Paice. It's so hard to put a number on who is the best with Peart, Ward and Bonham to me. All 3 of them were so damn good, it's hard to break it all down and what these guys bring to the table, most guys would kill for, ha
They were still workin the lyrics out ;)
It's almost like they give off electricity... when you're there you can feel it
The sound of the Sabbath album doesn't give justice to Bill Ward fantastic drumming . "Sabotage" is the album where you can hear it fully . Check tracks like "Symptom of the Universe".
One of the great live performances for sure. Also the sound quality is insane for 1970 in a club in paris. It's a shame the bass is a bit low in the mix since Geezer Butler is kicking ass too but you really have to listen for it. Tony had his fingers cut off too in an industrial accident so he's playing with homemade plastic finger tips. Bill Ward is kick ass .. him and Neil Peart are my top 2. But a measure of a good band is when it's better live then it is in the studio
The whole live in Paris 1970 recording is freaking amazing.
At the same time another great one from 1970 is Chicago live at Tanglewood .. 65 or 6 to 4 being among the best but again.. the whole show is amazing. Give this a listen mate ua-cam.com/video/7uAUoz7jimg/v-deo.html Terry Kath and the band section holy crap! .. you'll love it
UA-cam error - it's actually in Brussels, Belgium
@@JohnSmith-oe4ci this is live in Paris right? or maybe Paris doesn't exist.. I can dig that. I tried to go to paris about 5 times and never got there.. ok be real.. Paris is real right.. or have I been duped?
@@worldfamouslanglois4805 not really sure what your saying but it was in Brussels for a show called "Pop Shop" which was recorded in October 1970
ua-cam.com/video/U_BfoT1Ye4Y/v-deo.html
Try " sweet leaf " !!
You need to specify ROCK/metal drummers. Otherwise, you’ll get jazz drummers included. A very different animal. I would put Ward in top 20 rock drummers, easily. Keith Moon, John Bonham, Ian Paice, Neal Peart, Phil Collins, Steve Gadd, Michael Lee, Lars Ulrich…..a dozen others..
This song was written in the time of the war in Vietnam
The Ozz Man Cometh
Bill Ward is criminally underrated
Now you need to do the Last Supper version and from their last concert in Birmingham. version. I think Ozzy is 22 in this version
For another monster Ward performance, check out The Wizard.
Goddamn this is a great reaction
Sabbath are awesome, but I think the years that Dio did lead vocals were the better years. But I love all of sabbaths stuff. Sabbath, deep purple, zeppelin were the pioneers of heavy metal. I think sabbath were one of the first bands to use double bass drums which give their music a heavier deeper bass sound. You should check out Australian legend John Farnham, with over 5 decades of great Aussie music, in many genres.
You need to see Ozzy perform Mr. Crowley with Randy Rhoads!
Bill Ward, Ian Paice, John Bonham are the greatest of rock drummer's. I'm certain they were all influenced by Buddy Rich, the best Jazz drummer ever.
every musician in this band is considered a great in their field of instruments, and dont sleep on the bass player, Geezer Butler arguably has better licks/riffs/bass lines than Toni in some songs.
Thing about this song, is it feels so very Jimi Hendrix to me, especially with what Tony Iommi is doing on it. Just one more step dirtier. Jimi passed only 2 years before this came out, so it's not a huge reach to theorize that he was a huge influence on early Sabbath. And yeah, Bill Ward eats that whole drum kit on this one.
Watch The drum cam version of the Tool song Pneuma. Danny Carey is my favorite drummer. Bill Ward isn’t far off.
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John Bonham is the Eternal number one drummer.
His freind Bill Ward is number two.
Theres many great drummers.
Ozzy was born in 1948 he would be 22
Ozzy was 21 at the time iirc
The last verse played here was the original verse before they changed it. The original song was more santantic themed and morphed into more of an anti-war song which was more marketable. The last verse on the album was about the merchants of war going to hell and getting what they deserved.
Cameraman didnt give Geezer Butler any love lol
Did Ozzy invent headbanging? Maybe.
Bill Ward godfather of metal drumming John was great drummer no doubt but he can’t hold bills drumsticks
My opinion 1, is Bozo 2. Keith Moon 3, Neil 4th has to be Tommy Rich as far as skill he was amazing but he more Big band and Jazz as far as rock Bill Ward Yes Neil from Rush is great but he is surrounded by drums the others play way smaller kits!