7.1.4, 5.2.4, 9.2.6 Home Theater | What Do These Numbers Really Mean?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- As Home Theater technology continues to advance, many home theater enthusiasts are upgrading from a simple 5.1 setup to a 7.1.4 or 9.2.6 or even more! This video will break down the numbers.
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The simple answer to what do these numbers mean is.....more expense, but so worth it lol :)
Huge props for mentioning and showing the Dolby layouts. I've been to way too many pro speaker stores where the sales associate hasn't even been to that website. Also, the trigonometry needed for proper ceiling placement is something that nobody really touches on. I did a lot of calculations and measurements before cuttings holes. As a civil engineer I can attest to the math isn't easy or really described by anyone.
I had my friend help me with the math for my in-ceiling placement
Great video. I think the number for the subwoofers is like the others tho. a 7.2.4 would mean 2 subwoofers. There are a lot of receivers that do have 2 separate outputs for subwoofers. With one subwoofer in the room the sound is usually easy to localize while 2 subwoofers are almost harder to localize. Also, I noticed your walls in between the speakers were flat. Do you ever worry about sound echo even if the delay is slight. Most have some sort of curtains or fabric in between to dampen the sound and any reverb like a real movie theatre would have.
I have a 7.3.4 setup but the atoms is up firing because the wife didn't want holes in the ceiling lol i guess i don't wear the pants
Don't feel bad none of us do, and if they say they do, they're lying...
As an expert in photography, this video looked great, the under exposure looks so clean and sharp, I’m curious to what camera your running?
I believe he uses a Canon M6 mark II
Yes I use a Canon M6 MK II. I am an amateur photographer / videographer.
My biggest struggle is trying to get proper lighting on my face without having reflections in my glasses.
@@Youthman May I suggest this video to help in case you haven't tried these tips yet.
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Was running 7.2.4 off my Denon AVR 8500 bought rotel power amps been running 5.2.4 took time to build but by the end of the month it will be 7.2.4 in separates set up now. I was inspired by your showing of your friends $100000 system running Denon AVR 8500 into a Arcam amp up front.
what rotel ?
Junior OG rmb1585 rmb1565 and going to be coming the rmb 1582 mk2
Excellent video as always Michael. Great explanation of all the 'point' numbers and what they mean.
Thank you so much for simplifying everything!
Glad you found the video helpful
Great video Mike!! Now all I need is how to hook Atmos speakers to my receiver! Not a lot of hook up Atmos videos
5.3.4 here. Hsu research 12”, and two stacked pioneer 8” subs. I used an FFT plot in order to perfectly place the 8s to fill a 30hz gap in the Hsu sub. Thanks to home theater gurus
Another great video Mike, have to revert to the basics once in awhile, always helpful.
nice video. Looked like a missed edit at 8:40 lol. Just FYI haha
Ha! Every single time I do not watch the entire video after editing I end up missing something. Oh well. LOL
Absolutely love all your video's.. You make it so simple for us to understand everything regarding Home cinema and now I know I have a 9.1 Surround system. Thanks 👍
Thank you. One guy thought the video was pointless because everyone should know this info. The fact is everyone starts out in this hobby knowing very little. My goal is to share as MUCH info that will appeal to all levels of understanding. Glad you found the video helpful.
Thanks for the info and clarification. I have a 7.1.4 system - I have 4 subs each with it’s own amp. Origin Acoustic in-wall speakers and subs. Dan
Great video Youthman !! great for those who don't or didn't understand the numerical meanings of home theater setups--
Best explanation ever !! thank you very much.
Glad to help
Perfect explanation and also that is a true theater. Wow.
2.1 is plenty for me with my Klipsch RF-7 III's and SVS SB16. Sounds amazing for music and movies.
Rockin setup!
I love my 5.1
Great video Youthman! I have a 7.1.2 system or .4 whatever you call it lol. My atmos speakers sit on top of my towers due to the fact that my wife didnt want holes in the ceiling. But again great video buddy. Loved it.
seems 7.1.4 good enough for atmos movie now😁
Great video as always. That website is super helpful...cheers man.
Thanks Barrett. Sadly their new website makes it VERY difficult to locate that section. I just Google Dolby Atmos Speaker Layout to find it
@@Youthman Yeah I used that website as well to help with my speaker placement video.
@Youthman --- Would 13.4.9 or 12.4.8 make sense as surround sound configurations?
I'm currently in the process of doing my own room remodel/renovation. I want to do Dolby Atmos surround sound but I don't want any floor standing speakers, mainly because it's my personal bedroom and not a theater room and I'll be having shelves for collectibles and video games.
My room is roughly 16'x16' with 8' ceilings (ceiling is flat). For my entertainment center I'll be having the front left and right tower speakers for opposite side of my TV then having the center speaker mounted below the TV (preferably like a sound bar cause my TV will be wall mounted on a full motion mount). Then I got 4 speakers in the ceiling for the others. I will be having 2 subwoofers, preferably one right by my TV (in front of me while watching TV) then another one behind me.
Some stuff I read is some in ceiling speakers you can angle the tweeter towards you so that you can get that sound. Not sure if this is true or not, I don't think so because majority of speakers are fixed.
The in ceiling speakers I was looking at, the name brand is Polk Audio. The other Subwoofer I planned on getting was going to be an in wall subwoofer and that was going to be kinda hidden behind my bed so that it gets a floor level sound (since it'll be underneath my bed).
Tried to read some stuff about it but nothing shows how I want to do my layout and want to do the right set up the 1st time without having to redo nothing... oh and without paying a crap ton of money on someone to come show me cause I'm doing my room remodel/renovation myself.
This is the why my room remodel has can to be standby for nearly 3 months, maybe longer lol, cause of this :/
My house was pretty damaged by Hurricane Laura and Delta last year. If anybody wanted to know.
Thanks if there's any help and have a good one. Also thanks for your input from your video because I didn't understood the last numbers.
Very nice explanation ... Thanks
well explained, thanks
Thank you kindly
Keep being awesome 👌
Will do
Thank you Michael!
Very explanation. Thanks
rockin 3.1.2
Nice rockin the 5.1 over here
My system is 7.2. And the receiver has two distinct sub channels to feed 2 subs (or in my case 4 subs with 2 subs on each sub channel).
Excellent topic. It is possible to have stereo subwoofers? But since a subwoofer has omnidirectional, how it will work?
Great video! Very informative and explained it well. So much so I had to subscribe 😀. I thought about upgrading to a 9.2 but after watching this video I think a 7.2.4 would work out perfectly and cheaper. Do most of the receivers these days use RCA connectors or just speaker wire? I have some Logitech 5.1 channel speakers that I like to use and maybe just buy a couple more speakers to fill in the gaps. Right now they're plugged directly into my dumb TV and I don't really have a good way of calibrating the speakers.
awesome explanation
Yootman, great job, yes you are correct there is controversy over the second number. Most all of the pro installers I know use the second number two designate the number of SUBS, NOT LFE CHANNELS. and in most installs, the number is too low 🤣😂😆
Well Explained.
Great explanation about the meaning. Ive got 5.1.4 with heights on wall
Great video bro very informative, thanks 🤘
Great videos as always .I had 5.1.2 Atmos system great for the first few months but then the system suffered lots of issues with the system .amazing setup you have
Thank you kindly
Thats why i am going to stick with my 7.1 and add 2 atmos speakers
@@Youthman Hey. 7.1.6 vs 9.1.4, which is better, why?
I have option to either do 7.1.6 or 9.1.4.. which one shall I go for?
Neither layout is better. If your room is long and you have 2 or more rows of seats, I would recommend (6) Atmos to provide more coverage over a larger area.
Finally someone explained this so i can understand
i am in an unfortunate situation where i cannot put in a sub,the only spot i have for a sub is right over my neighbours child`s bedroom,and even then that is behind my tv stand,which would be open,but all my gear is there,so may be an obstruction to line of fire for a sub?
i have 2 fronts and 2 rears,soon to have 4 ceilings and a center
So would my system be called a 5.0.4?
Cheers
Glad you found the video helpful. If you are not running a sub, you will have a 5.0.4 once you add your in-ceiling and center channel. Just run your speakers as full range to send the bass to them since you do not have a subwoofer.
@@Youthman Cheers mate on the reply
i do not understand what this means,please excuse another question,as i am sure your busy.
"Just run your speakers as full range to send the bass to them since you do not have a subwoofer."
How and where is that done?
Mt AVR/amp will be NAD T778(If it ever ships,it has been over 2 months and no responses to help.i may just change my pre payment to an equl AVR soon)
PS i seen you room tour today,i am a huge fan of woodwork.WOW!!! is all i could say
Cheers
Great video Michael. I currently have a 5.1.2 system. From your experience, would it be beneficial for me to upgrade to a 7.1.2? I have room in the back of my couch for 2 back speakers. I watch a lot of Dolby Atmos movies, but I haven't found any articles talking about how many channels they support. I know that they do support a wide number of Atmos channels, but I haven't found anything about the rear channels.
Youthman Answer his question I would like to know answer too
If your rear surrounds are at an angle behind you (like Youthman's diagram of 5.1), then 7.1 isn't necessary. When I first invested in lossless surround, I setup a 7.1 setup because my room is long (so it really depends on your own room acoustics). I've since updated to 7.1.4, and find 4 heights are pretty good: has more distinct pans of upper front to upper rear.
I would go 5.1.4 I have just upgraded my setup from a 5.1.2 to 5.1.4 and the improvement the overall sound was amazing far better than I would have believed. The way the sound moves around up top now is just fantastic
my exprerience is that for true dolby atmos you need 4 or more height channels 2 dose just not cut it
@@matthewforrest7660 Thanks Matthew! I guess it's time for me to save for a new receiver. There's a big jump in price between a 7.2 and 9.2 receiver.
@Geejay, I personally would rather have a 5.1.4 than a 7.1.2. It's very difficult to get an immersive Atmos experience with only two Atmos speakers. If you can go with (4) in-ceiling speakers, that would be best. Some guys need to use height speakers as their Atmos speakers angled downward and that can work well also but in-ceiling would be the best since that is actually where the sound would be originating from.
is a bi-pole rear something I should still buy? probably will do a 5-7.1.2-4 system
Hi My Name is Don, by watching your vidios I have built my unfinished basement to the tune of 18k using what thought was budget friendly equipment it is what should be called a 7.4.4 system, Denon X3700H, Emotive 3 channel and a 4 channel amps all Klispch speakers with a Epson 5050UB basically all new sheetrock heavy insulation and carpeting this room is awesome but man did I go down the rabbit hole! its almost done and I wish I could have some help with overall tuning. I a very Techy person and did everything myself, I hope this system gets used? I keep telling my Wife that all this is cheaper than a Corvette? Please contact me for any advise on any setup information you can provide, keep up the good work.
Hi Michael,
Hope you are doing good 🙂.
Well, In one of your videos wherein you asked some questions to your wife about the sound equipments and audio, you mentioned that there can be a total number of 64 speakers (or channels, I'm not sure) that can be installed in a home theatre. I was wondering what 64 of them would do, is it 64 channels or speakers, I mean how do they work in a home theatre? I'm sorry for I might sound a little stupid at times, but it seems that no audio format including the most recent ones accepts more than 13 as per you explained in the above video. I'm just inquisitive.☺️
If you Google 64 channel processor, this is the first result - www.trinnov.com/en/blog/posts/trinnov-enables-48-and-64-channel-immersive-audio-systems/
Hi can you do a vid some time on connecting speaker wire on the back of amp on where exactly the atmos speakers plug into example 5.1.4
I have a 7.3.2. My subs are different sizes and tweaked to give me different frequencies out of the one signal.
probaly in the future, we will get point number four. speaker placed in the heigh of feet. so you can hear sound of grass and insect.
I'm still stuck at 3.2, lol. But I'm enjoying the REL' s and B&W's until I can add to them.
Great video, thanks!
Im currently looking at upgrading from my old integra 7.7 to either a denon avc-x4700h or avc-x6700h.
The thing that confuses me, is they are advertises them online here in Oz as 9.1.4 or 11.1.4 on some sites.
So if the 1 stands for 1 x sub. Why do the both units have 2 x sub outlets. So they should be 7.2.4 or 9.2.4
And what pisses me more is. It stated somewhere on a couple of sites. That if you want 4 in ceiling speakers. You can only do this by adding another 2 channel amp.
Ffs
$3500-$5000 aud for these two units. They should be set up to accept the speakers without another amp added...!!!
Otherwise dont advertise them as 7.1.4 or 9.1.4
Advertise them as 7.2.2 & 9.2.2.
Its not really that hard aye.
Lucky i didnt buy yet and these amps dont do what they are advertised to do, without the assistance of another amp that has to be purchased.
Lucky i researched heaps and read the fine print specs.
Hi there, I really enjoy watching your tubes...I would love to hear from you about setting up 2 sets of Focal SIB EVO (5.1.2) total of (6 surround speakers, 4 speakers with atmos enabled and 2 subwoofers) in my new home theater. What would you suggest in terms of layout and receiver (my room is 14'X23'). Thanks for your thoughts.
I thought the .1 or .2 is kept separate because they are line level outputs which are not amplified. This means you either need a separate amp to power the sub channel(s) or they need to be actively powered subs.
Youthman!!! Just subscribed, Iove your content! I'd love your input, if you'd be so kind as to answer one quick question. I recently purchased a 7.2.4 (sort of) Klipsch speaker system.
Here's my dilemma...I have 4 Klipsch r-625fa, with the "atmos" speakers firing from the top, and 2 Klipsch r-51m surrounds. Can I use 2 of the r-625fa's for my rear surrounds, and the r-51m's for the middle surrounds? It would work better as far as furniture placement goes...but if you think it's a bad idea, I can place them the other way. Any help would be great....I'm new to this.
Thank you for information. 👍🏻
Some AVR's can correct each sub individually. So while they may receive the same signal they still are better then say one output split and pushed to two subs. I'm running a 7.2.4 setup, regardless if it's technically 7.1.4. I'm sure your more then aware of all of this.
Yes I completely understand it. I also refer to my setup as 7.2.4 because people know exactly what I have plus it’s easier to describe than 7.1.4 with 2 subs lol
Avrs like Denon x3800 with 4 sub outs eq the subs individually I believe, using Audyssey and or Dirac
You can use one or 2 of those sub outs dedicated to shakers, near field, BOSS, etc, for tuned control
Does a 11.2 processor (I am thinking of the Marantz AV7706) can drive a 7.2.4 setup ?
I have a Denon 7.1 receiver with height settings. Would it be better to setup a 7.1 or a 5.1.2?
If you’re going to do an Atmos set up, it’s advisable that you use 4 speakers. It’s hard to get an immersive sound with only two speakers
what do you recommend on 10k bugged home theater and hi fi audio ?
Great vid nice explanation.
Hi, just to ask, i have 9.2 av receiver but it does not say its atmos.. my friend got 7.1 atmos which one plays better on atmos movie? Also, will it work the same sound compare to real atmos receiver?
Thanks
Hey, can I use the surround speakers as the back speakers instead of side speakers or wouldn't that sound right?
Really great video
Thanks
Thank you man, I've got a question for you.
I'm having a brand new 5.1.4 (Marantz 8015 & Klipsch, btw), my question is about the surrounds. Those 2 have to be around 120° (as you shown in the 5.1 at the beginning in your video) because of room disposition, so, in order to enjoy better, would you recommend me to have them as normal surrounds or back surrounds during setup in the AVR?
There is a difference between “Home theater” and “Commercial Movie theater” and “Music listening room” and “Over doing it”.
I think what allot of “Home Theater” people are looking for is “Balance” young skywalker. Most people only have a small family room to work with maybe 15ft x 15ft. So they don’t need to over do it. They want best value for their money but also a realistic movie experience the way the sound producer would have liked for the sound to be heard. It would also be nice if the AVR could auto calibrate for every movie or content using some type of code. This way every sound producer could get his way and the sound could be heard as the sound producer intended.
I agree not everyone is looking to recreate the local cinema experience in their home.
There isn’t a need to recalibrate your system for every movie.
hello I have have RBH SV-831R modular monitor speaker and the SV-1212NR , what you think of them?
if I thought about changing what do you recommend? or thats fine! thanks
First number: 7.x.x = This number means the amount of main speakers at ear level.
Second number: x.1.x = This number indicates the number of subwoofers.
Third number: x.x.4 = This number shows the amount of speakers above ear level that add a 3D effect. (with a Dolby Atmos enabled home theater receiver)
EXAMPLE 1:-Surround Sound 9.1.4
9 = Nine Traditional Speakers
1 = One Floor Standing Subwoofers
4 = Four Upward Firing 3D Speakers or Ceiling Speakers
Example 2:-Surround Sound 5.2.4
5=Five traditional speakers
2=Two floor standing subwoofers
4=Four upward firing 3D speakers or ceiling speakers
Your comment is the reason why I made the video. Some people assume the second digit is how many subwoofers you have but that is actually incorrect. I can have 7 ground level speakers and 4 subwoofers daisey chained together using a single Sub out on my receiver and I still have a 7.1 setup, not a 7.4 setup.
What I am not certain of is if the .1 is in reference to how many dedicated LFE channels there are (currently there is only 1) or if it is how many dedicated sub outputs you have on your AVR or processor (some AVR's are basically a Y splitter so it's still a single output).
I've reached out to Sound United for clarification on this.
I would say it’s technically correct to refer to as 9.1.2 or 9.2.4 or 5.2.4 its not about Facebook or forums but what its technically known and referred to even by Dolby
Youthman its not about the number of subwoofers ,i was supposed to mention that which you can independently control not ones connected in parallel with Y connectors like you chained 4 subs from a single output those are just in parallel.The second digit means the number of floor standing subs independently connected to separate outputs .Your AVR can have two sub outputs but if you only one sub it only becomes x.1.x but if you use both outputs it becomes x.2.x .
Actually I just found out some information from Sound United that will surprise you. Making a video explaining it
Youthman This is how I understand the second figure 7.1 vs 7.2 Surround Sound
Having a surround sound system gives you the best aural experience with your movies or video games. There are a number of surround sound specifications, but at the very top of the list are 7.1 and 7.2 systems. The main difference between 7.1 and 7.2 surround systems is that the latter has an additional sub that should give more oomph to the sound. But you should not be fooled. A true 7.2 systems should have two separate channels for the subs, so that the two subs may not be outputting the same signal. Some 7.1 systems may seem like 7.2 systems because they have two subs. But the truth is, the two subs get the same signal from a single channel via a Y splitter. This is not true 7.2, although it might seem so at first glance.
Having two separate sub channels should give you directionality when it comes to the low frequency sounds. This can be achieved by altering volume levels of the individual subs so that it seems like it is coming from a certain spot and not dead center. If you used a 7.1 system with a splutter for two subs, the sound would always seem dead center since the two will always have the same intensity and volume.
hello I have an av pioneer vsx 354 5.2 ch.my question is can I make it 5.1.2?
great video ....
Any recomendation for a value 5.2.4 receiver??
Is Dolby Atmos discrete beyond 5.1.4?
3.1.2 works for Dolby Atmos setups as well, correct?
My receiver is a 6 year old Pioneer pre-Atmos with 7.1. I've been thinking about hooking up the 6.1 rear center but I'm not sure if it's worth it. I hooked up the two front height a couple of years ago but no real sound ever came out of them so I took them down. Will the rear center be better?
Michael .1 or .2 is restricted to the .1 due to the audio track for the LFE.
Yes, there is only one LFE channel thus the .1
Awesome explanation, now I want my 16.6.10
Go for it!
Youthman a long way to go, I got a Denon AV using 3 speakers lol
A bit off-topic, Michael but just wanted to ask. What was your first home cinema system you started with?. I started with a 2 channel/stereo HiFi with a NICAM VCR connected to a 20" CRT TV. then I upgraded to a Toshiba Dolby surround sound TV that came with 2 rear speakers, then I upgraded to a Sony widescreen TV when Pro logic came out. It just kind of went from there lol :)
First home theater was a Polk Audio setup that I bought when I worked for Circuit City MANY years ago with a Pioneer Dolby Pro-Logic receiver and a small Velodyne sub.
Thanks for the info. I currently have a 7.1 system and want to upgrade to atmos. I want to know if I could use the 2 surround back speakers as 1 pair of atmos and add the front pair of atmos to the ceiling because my receiver can only drive 9 channels instead of 11. If not I will get all 4 ceiling atmos speakers and the back surround would either go to waste or just leave them there to switch back and forth to.
You can repurpose your speakers for Atmos but you will need to move them to either a height or on-ceiling location to get the full effect of Atmos.
@@Youthman Thank you Youthman
great video Michael thank you, now where is my credit card :)
Youthman my set up is 7.2.4 and my Receiver was Denon AVR-X4500H & there is subwoofer output 1 and 2 and I used 2 subs and plug on each output. This means the subs will function as one sub?
I'm making a follow-up video to this one that I should have ready tomorrow. Even though you have dual sub outs, they are both still receiving the same LFE channel. The receiver can independently adjust their levels and distances but it's still the same .1 LFE signal. I'll explain more tomorrow.
Very solid video. I had a question...I am unable to put speakers behind me. I have enough wall to put 1 on one side but not the other. I will be running a 5.2.4 Klipsch THX dolby atmos system...is this really an issue?
For a 5.1 setup, your surrounds should be placed from 90 degrees (straight beside your listening position or up to 110 degrees (slightly behind your listening position). Can you do that?
@@Youthman yes I can place my surrounds at eat level but I don't have enough wall space to place anything behind me. my room is a 15 X 19 bit I have to set the HT up width ways because a closet is in the middle of the wall if I set it up length ways
My current receiver allows 7.1 or 5.1.2. If you had to choose, which setup do you think is more effective? Keep in mine, my dolby speakers are upward firing modules.
Having only two upfiring speakers is Difficult to achieve a fully immersive Dolby Atmos experience. Some my vote would be a 7.1
You forgot 6.1 lol throwback from back in the day
Oh yeah! Forgot about that center surround. LOL
@Youthman what's your take on 7.1.6 vs 9.1.4? Do you typically find more bang for the buck w/ extra ceiling speakers or with front wides?
It’s difficult to say because every home theater that I have toured has been different. If you have more than two rows of seating, I would recommend a 7.1.6 as that is a large gap for just 4 Atmos speakers.
My room is 13’ x 19’ with 10’ ceiling so wides and 6 Atmos speakers are not an option
@@Youthman so you landed 7.2.4? Did tears heights end up ahead of or behind rear seating row?
*rear heights
I have LCR, side surround, surround back and 4 Atmos in ceiling.
Please Mr. Micheal talk slowly because many of the channel viewers are not speaking English as their native language , your presentation attract other multilingual viewers, which is a clear success for your channel because explaining all these technologies only by words or writings are useless, thanks
We did understand that what is after the point like 7. 2 , the digit . 2 refers to 2 subwoofer, is that right!
My favs audio guy always well explained. I am set on buying 9 channel amp and definitely doing atmos i I can’t choose between going 5.1.4 or 7.1.2 which combo would be better ?
My vote would be 5.1.4. It’s difficult to get a fully immersive Atmos experience if you only have two overhead speakers. There isn’t a lot of information that comes out of the surround back channels. Hope that helps
Youthman yes definitely will do 5.1.4 what i am confused about my middle surround dipole will stay same on side where will my krix book shelf go one pair in front of me high and the other on back wall high ? And where do those 4 atmos speakers get wired into back of the amp ?
If you buy a Denon or a Marantz receiver, the initial setup will show you exactly where to connect on the back of the AVR and you can visually see how to configure your speakers.
Youthman ok thanks i have never had any experience with denon or marantz which one would would you learn towards i can get a good deal with a marantz 7013 have you used that before ?
I reviewed the SR 8012 and it was phenomenal. The 7013 would be fantastic if you don’t need the additional two channels
5:15 OMG, Thank you for this, 99% of people get this wrong. They should write it as a 7.1(4).4.
What if there is a shaker system like bass shakers or a BOSS platform ? The BOSS platform doesn't produce any sound, it just for shaking and it can have 1, 8 or more drivers, that does mean it's a 7.8.4. If we count the 4 subs and the boss platform it becomes a 7.12.4 which is crazy.
EDIT: i have a 5.1(2 subs with 1 BOSS).2 upfiring. Looking to add 2 more height speakers and maybe squeeze back speakers.
Thank you. You are correct. I'm going to do a followup video tomorrow that will explain this further.
7.2.4 is the sweet spot, ive been in 24.10.10 setups, powered by trinnov, sounded amazing, until we watched a movie...... the very small jump in surround for the extra $200,000 was tiny.
Youthman would you prefer Klipsch speakers installed in the wall verse floor/wall mounted?
In walls are my last resort. Too many compromises with sound quality for me just for aesthetics. Floorstanding is the way to go if you have room
Thanks. That was my question except for not being able to move them.
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Great video👍🏽 but if you have left and right sub out would the .2 still be considered accurate?
In layout but not in actual configuration since there is only one LFE channel
@@Youthman so are you saying that the left and right sub outs aren't stereo? I have a Yamaha AVR with the option of stereo, mono or front and rear. Can you confirm that it's just marketing or is it real? Thx dude
No, the sub 1 and sub 2 outs each produce the same mono signal.
You can adjust their levels independently but it’s still the same .1 LFE channel.
@@Youthman so I was hoodwinked by Yamaha! Lol... Thx dude
Very possibly
One thing to note is that movies only go up to 7.1 so anything above that is useless and the atmos is a being 2,4,6 is an add feature/container to the 7.1/5.1 setup.
I was told by antham engineer that 7.1.4 is great but he also added that in many atmos movies the .4 not needed and can confuse the mix a little so he said 7.1.2 is a better way to go and the atmos high speakers don’t get as much information as people would think so believes 2 atmos is fine whats your take on this ?
My take is it’s difficult to get an immersive sound from two speakers. Think of it this way...which provides a note immersive sound? 2 front speakers or two front + 2 surrounds? Dolby themselves recommend 4 over 2. If they designed it, how is it going to get confused?
Youthman yes i agree with you so if you go with the 4 over head with box speakers and bracket on celing where is the ideal placement 2 in front of listening seat and 2 behind ?
What's the best way to set up atmos with a slanted ceiling
That's difficult since the speakers are not able to be aimed directly downwards (other than the adjustable tweeter). Check out this home theater tour to see how he has his Atmos speakers setup with his slanted-ceiling - ua-cam.com/video/ttpHuR_BJgI/v-deo.html
Michael,
Consider this. If a person has multiple subs, like 7.4.4 and uses a Mini DSP technically he has 4 subs because he can individually tune each sub then is that a true .4. system?
Stay tuned...I have a follow up video tomorrow that will help answer your question.
I'm a rebel. Nothing but Dolby Prologic IIz, DTS: Neo X, Audyssey DSX.
Is there any video on a 64 channel/speaker setup?
I’m not sure. How big is your room? My local cinema doesn’t even have 64 speakers.
Thanks for the reply.🙂❤️
Well, It's a total of 6000 sq ft wherein the constructed area is 2000 in which we live. Rest is the garden and open land. We haven't created a dedicated space as such Yet.
Just in plans(in the head).
If the room the speakers are being placed in isn’t 6,000 sq Ft, you don’t need 64 speakers.
My room is 13’ x 18’ with 10’ ceiling and 11 speakers are more than adequate for an immersive experience
Okay I understand,
so the number of speakers is not increased because of the recent advances in audio formats and quality or technology but because of the space that it's installed in. Correct?
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I have a 3.14159 theater
Great video.. But.. The .# for sub isn't actually always technically ".1" my amp had 2 seperate sub channels. Not split between 1 channel. 2 individual channels. So technically it's .2. However a lot of amps do have 2 rca outs that are shared.
I agree with you because mine also has two sub channels driven separately,I don’t understand when he says it’s always technically 1 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
@@bernarddzonzimagagula346 lol yeah exactly!
This actually is a great question and I’m open to some dialogue about it. Correct me if I’m wrong, but how many LFE channels are there? There is only one.
Yes an AVR can separate the Sub Out so that you can adjust the level of each sub independently, but still they are both receiving the same LFE signal. So how can that be two separate channels?
Youthman Remember subwoofers are calibrated to subwoofer level not LFE level which are two different things,the .1 or .2 denotes the subwoofer “levels”
See that’s where I feel differently the .1 or .2 isn’t the levels it’s the information. I’m going to make a video on it to see if we can get some discussion specifically. I’d love to get an answer and I think it’s a great conversation to have. I’ve never been one to believe that I’m always right. If I’m wrong I want to know that I’m wrong. Thanks for the question stay tuned
I got a 3.3.4
I have a 7.4.4
My guess they were for transducers.