2020 BMW M2 Competition DCT - FULL REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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Spec is as follows;
2020 M2 Competition DCT
Plus pack & comfort pack
Long Beach blue
13400 miles
FBMWSH
2 owners from new, last bought from BMW main dealer in May 2023, balance of warranty included (as well as invoice).
4x Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres with approx 5.5mm of tread remaining.
No modifications.
2 keys, original mats and manuals.
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In this video I share my opinions on the F87 generation BMW M2 Competition, comparing it with the new G87 version which I had on loan from BMW UK just a few days earlier, and explain why now is the time to buy one.
The Mk8 Clubsport spec is as follows;
Any colour but red
19" wheels (any)
Must have heated seats
Harman Kardon sound system
Black roof or pan roof
DCC nice but not essential
Must be a super low mileage (ideal delivery mileage 23 or 73 reg car).
Private or dealer
This video can be divided into the following sections;
0:00 teasers
0:16 graphics by @haslerdesigns
0:19 what this video is about
1:20 buy this M2, sell me your Mk8 GTI Clubsport
2:20 how the M2 Comp compares to new G87 M2 on paper
4:57 exterior tour
8:15 interior tour
16:50 under the bonnet
17:56 driving the M2 Comp
24:15 summary
27:00 graphics by @haslerdesigns
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Haha I love the initial statement about being able to handle oversteer.
I own a high powered BMW with X_Drive, I couldn’t live with a RWD one.
I once went on a Jonathan Palmer race day and drove an old M3 CSL and an Ariel Atom supercharged.
I watched the video back from the Atom recently, in 10 laps I spun it 6 times 😂
That deserves a prize 🏆 😄
RWD BMW M cars, are not really designed for drivers like you, unless you keep all the nanny protection on and don't press the accelerator more than 1/4 of the way.
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No offence intended, just mild banter my friend.
@@DjNikGnashers no offence taken, I know what you mean. Someone like me who can’t handle the full power of a M car could always buy a M2 instead 😂
@@lupo10 Hahah touche my friend 😅
@@DjNikGnashers haha sorry I could resist 😂
I forgot how much better an ordinary binnacle is in front of the driver than a giant Samsung.
Agreed the new interior is amazing.
The old M2 competition interior apart from the seats is the same as a late M140i hard wearing it has to be said.
That was a great review Andrew. Really enjoyed that! I think the M2 Comp is potentially one of the best M cars we’ve had in recent years. It has so much going for it, and the current prices make it very very tempting indeed.
I do urge people to take it on track, as it genuinely comes alive. It’s unbelievable. On a dry day, with the right rubber, the back end feels extremely planted and the engine pulls all the way to the redline. Unusually so for a turbo charged engine.
Cheers 😎
I enjoy your videos, but the audio needs more work
Interesting video Andrew, I often keep tabs on M2C prices, thought it odd this week that BMW approved stock seems to have evaporated in the last couple of weeks. Wonder if it was all sold and not replaced, or off to auction.
I’m going for that m2 cs as that car will appreciate over time
I really want an M2, but I'm worried that I'll end up backwards in a hedge on my first spirited drive in it 🤣
Very fair review. Thanks! 👍
Yes, you are preaching to the converted. I've owned mine for 5 years now and also test driven the new M2. The new one pretty much beats the old one across several fronts - engine, chassis and tech. But, could I stomach its looks? - NO! A polarising look to say the least. Far too often I hear phrases related to BMW's latest designs like 'it looks better in the flesh' or 'that it grows on you'. All which suggest that they didn't quite hit the mark.
With you on that - the new 2 Series looks awful. The rear of the 240 looks rubbish (i previously had an F87 240), and the rear of the rear of the new M2 looks awful but with lipstick on. I run 2 cars and decided I wanted something special for my weekend toy, so today - yes today I kid you not - I bought myself a fully loaded M2C in the glorious hockenheim silver with less than 8000 miles. Wanted one since 2018 and now finally it is about to happen. It is literally like the missing piece of the puzzle of my life how sad is that lol.
Pick it up next week.
@@viacom2000 Congrats. Excellent choice! I also went with the Hockenheim Silver. Only one thing to do now is enjoy it.
I was extremely lucky to pick one up 1 owner 70 plate last year in the same colour, and even better the main dealer had not listed it with Apple car play and the M sport brakes. I am biased I love the compact size it's a great all-rounder. Merry Christmas Andrew🎄👍
Hey Andrew got a 2020 polo gti atm. What do you think between golf tcr and mk8 clubsport?
I have a '21 F87 Comp and a '19 Golf R as my daily. Just a perfect pair of cars for my purposes & taste. Really happy with both of them.
I have a 2017 Golf R dsg and am seriously considering adding an M2. I’m just worried that they’re too similar. How do you like having both of them?
@@jmahtabtoo similar what are you smoking?? The Golf R is a cool car but nothing like an F87 M2.
@@joshuawi99 similar in the sense that they are both very digital cars. I’ve had so many different cars over the years and miss my VF supercharged E36 M3 most for its analog connection. Do you have an M2?
@@jmahtab Not similar at all IMHO, and yes I love having both - perfect complement.
@@jmahtab I had a 2019 GTI TCR and now i have a 2019 M2 Comp. It is 2 steps up at least. I can only recommend getting a clean one now while you can and keep it. The driving experience is on a different level. The F87 feels alot more anolog than the Golf 7. Its so much fun to the point that the only VAG product I would consider in the future as a weekend car would be an R8 rear wheel drive or a 991 GT3. Its is the most similar experience to an E46 M3 you can buy. It only needs a decent set of Coilovers like KW V4 Clubsport.
Only buy an M2 if you have the money for insurance.
I’ve just renewed my policy after a year of owning a comp and it has risen by £400.
I have to admit, I’m one of the lucky ones. I’ve heard of others being hit with prices of £6k.
I’ve owned one since Sept 21. This is a mostly fantastic car. I love the way it looks and drives, huge amount of performance. Main issue is in cold or wet conditions, it has little grip. I guess that makes it exciting to drive tho. It’s a fairly firm ride but not unbearable for daily use. Fuel efficiency is acceptable but insurance costs have gone through the roof recently.
Nice owner feedback, thanks Matt 👍🏻
Hey man, I’m considering M2C F87. Do you think it’s a good buy even in 2024 after owning it for three years? The price now makes it a tempting option
@@emirashraf Yeah it's great fun and practical for using daily. Prices have come down to a sensible level. Try and get a test drive in one if you can 👍
What tyres do you have? I heard PS4S tyres signficantly help the traction in cold/wet conditions.
@@jamesalmond4301 I have those but if they are not up to temperature they struggle in 2nd gear full throttle.
I just bought a M2 Comp 2021 ! 10K miles 💪🏼🗣️ Best M out there !!! Silver
how much you paid?
@@jeremy00007I paid 92K, 70,000K for vehicle with extended platinum with bmw it was extra !! Get it 80K for 8 years !!
Unbelievable best review av seen mint thank you Andy 🎉
id buy one tomorrow if i could afford it and never need another car again,, have to be a manual though
Agree M2 competition prices have tanked
A lot of car for the money now
You’re doing a great job with this channel. Keep going 🙏🏼
I had one of these.. sold it for a mk8 Golf R and then came back :)
Thanks for reminding me how good the car is . I had a M2 loved it Sold it ordered new M2 December last year arrived 4 weeks ago when price war started discounted etc . I decided not to take the car was unsure about it ?..? .
Thanks to you I’m going to buy a BMW approved late M2 competition.
Great video very informative keep them coming 👍
Maybe look at F87 M2cs
@@Jb001jb G87 is far superior car imo and I had F87 for over 3 years.
I like the new one too. This looks old now, plus the interior quality of the new ones night day difference
I think theres some more way to go
Prices still to come down further and interest rates to lower eventually thats when its perfect to buy
There are a lot of dealers going to have a very bad Christmas already and many who don't want to accept the inevitable and not reducing prices hoping things will pick up next year. The dealers who have already reduced prices seem to be selling cars but not clear if there is any profit left, 10% off is a lot when my average overall margin on turnover was often well below 5%
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Definitely going to drop a few more grand over the next 6 months. I traded in my 2019 M2C DCT (both packs and only 15k mileage) this March 2023 for 37k and if I’d kept it, it’s now valued at 30k for a private sale. I’m after another one but with a manual box and I’ll see how low they go first.
Nice review, i want this car so badly but here in belgium its too expensive still....
I’d have another golf r , but I don’t need five doors .
Love how aggressive they look and yeah I've heard they step out easily
Glad it's not just me :)
Digital speed readout will come on if you push left hand stork when driving.
Thanks for that carl :)
It’s a lovely car, very privileged as a fellow automotive journo to get the chance to drive cars most dream of! So many unknowns flying around regarding the used car market, let alone the performance car market - the amount of 0% deals, deposit contributions and bundles trying to get customer through the door. Are they working? I’m not too sure, it really depends on who you speak to. I’m seeing more cars come down in price (post virus, new cars coming through etc). Is now the time to buy? Maybe yes, maybe no - if you can stomach the thought of potentially losing money quicker should prices fall again, go ahead… but I don’t think anyone has the right answer. Great video as always though!
Thanks so much Ryan. I've kept my ear to the ground over the last few months as December is the time for bargains traditionally and I don't think this year is any different. However good ICE cars, well presented and priced well are selling OK. The main issue is there is a lot of stock bought in late summer sitting around unsold. Same dealers buying correctly priced cars today will do just fine but they have to take a hit on existing stock and move on. They've had it bloody good for the past 2 years so I wouldn't feel sorry for them! Another factor is a lot of ICE cars are going out of production either permanently or awaiting facelifts. GT4 production has stopped, R8 production must be winding down. Mk8 GTI deliveries are drying up pending the facelift, even RS3 which has nose dived is no longer available to order. Also inflation down and pressure on Bank of England to reduce interest rates could help.
@@volkswizard exactly that - like you say, it’s all the older stock which seems to be more of an issue and where the hit is being taken. Most dealers should be okay, it’s the ones who have really inflated the prices who may run into issues. While anecdotal, you can see the same issue on the private market as well with more and more sellers are needing to bring down their prices as they are simply asking too much for a car, believing it’s worth more due to inflated prices. An early Focus ST150 was up for sale near me at nearly 9k, normal age related marks exterior wise, it had almost 200k miles on the clock - it sold in the region of £3,500 which is a big price drop, albeit you could watch the price go down weekly over the 4/5 months it was advertised for.
Nice, clean and well presented performance cars will always be sought after, especially in the change over period of facelifts, end of production and switch to electric. Shall be interesting to see how new sales are influenced by the upcoming ZEV mandate, but lots of promise coming from VW with the ID.2all concept coming in a few years, Audi’s A6 e-tron and cars which don’t fit into the usual faux SUV category.
A lot of folk holding onto their cars for longer than usual.Sitting tight paying their gas/lecy bills.Still,i work in the chip market and it's all systems GO! for 2024 and beyond.Been quiet this year.
These are really on my radar though the earlier, non-comp because...budget. From what I hear though, the N55 in those is still really decent even if it isn't a proper 'M' engine.
Has to be Long Beach Blue like this one though and I'd kind of prefer the "wrong" option manual over the DCT even if modern BMW manuals aren't meant to be great. Can apparently sort a lot of that with bushes, etc.
Long Beach is defo the best colour for it.
I drove both the comp and og lci back to back and I left with the 2018 m2 LCI. Both were manual, there’s only a 40hp difference between the two cars. They feel different because the power is more linear on the twin turbo set up in the s55. However the n55b30t0 in the m2 is not the same as other n55 engines, it shares the same forged internals from the s55 the chassis is the same and so is the suspension with a slight difference in the steering feel which can be programmed to the m2 and so can the carbon fiber strut brace. The n55b sounds so good in all ranges. The n55b can be heavily modded just like the s55 and you don’t have to worry about crank hub failure. The one thing I wanted from the m2c were the seats and I was able to get a pair so now I’m happier. If I were to get an s55 car and not mod it would be the m2cs but if I wanted to mod an s55 it would be an m4. But I never chose those options (drove plenty) and I could not stand the engine or exhaust sound…. It’s just to tin and rasp sounding for me. They are both amazing and you can’t really go wrong with either. I would say if you are getting the og to atleast get one that is an LCI which started year model 2018.
@@kaiichinose9590 yeah, you've basically confirmed everything I'd looked at in my vague research. I watch Throttle House as well and one of them has an earlier M2 and refuses to sell it as most cars don't come close.
The sound thing as well, know exactly what you mean as I remember Chris Harris reviewing the S-engined car saying it didn't sound as nice. I don't hate the rasp of it but prefer the sound of the earlier engines.
Only vague issue I have is practicality as I kind of need more than 2 doors but can maybe persuade the other half an M2 makes sense since it has back seats 😁
👍 yes your absolutely right.
Problem is...prices are dropping because insurance costs have rocketed. Im looking at 1.6k insurance whereas something like a cayman, v8 ftype or mustang at around 750.
Hi Andrew. I met a friend for lunch this week. Afterwards, he showed me his new, fully spec’d M4 Comp resting in his garage….waiting for a dry day. Most impressive. He waited over a year to take delivery but says the wait was totally worth it. 👌🏼
Great video looking to talk to you about Golf Edition 40 if you have time thank you
It'd be a difficult choice between this and the Cayman and could simply come down to the number of seats required. I wouldn't even consider the Audi.
Horse for courses - if you need 4 or 5 doors then I guess the Audi aint so bad
Esp a last of the line 17/18 plate with the sports exhaust@@volkswizard
Can’t decide between this and a Supra. The crankhub scares me, as I don’t plan to keep any of the cars stock
I actually think the auto box suits this really well but I know over time the manual is likely to be cheaper to service and will keep its value more as the supply of new manual cars decreases.
Definitely prefer a manual handbrake, if ain't broke don't fix it.
Ultimate spec M2 Comp and a lot of fun - what’s the story of the red mk2 TT on your drive?
Great review and nice motor in perfect spec. The ultimate one car that does all. Altough the Cayman with NA 6 cylinder would be my choice too for a weekend car. Also always amazed by the UK car prices. Here the very cheapest 2016 M2 with 100.000 miles, dodgy (damage) history etc etc. starts from 40.000 euro. A good M2 from 2016-2017 is just as expensive as a dealer offered 2014-2015 BMW M4 at around 47.000 euro. A hard choice between the M2 or M4.
Once upon a time we were expensive for cars compared to Euro zone. I was surprised by how much cars are in Europe, I guess it's in proportion to wages which are higher.
The Euros used to call the UK 'Treasure Island'.@@volkswizard
Lovely cars. I’m happy with my A45 and everything that brings - good and bad. There’s amazing cars out there and it’s going to be decades before ICE cars are off the roads. Im definitely going to get a Porsche 911 at some stage. You only live once.
No pockets in a shroud.
Does the M2 deserve to be in MF Ghost?
If you think the comp is good, wait til you see the OG.
Each one has its own character. They feel like different cars to be honest , but both are great.
Love my OG. That exhaust sound. Reminds me of my '68 Fastback.
I think next year the OG M2 non comp will be a bargain
Just bought one !
They were as low as £24,000 but I went for a 1 owner low mileage for £28,750.
M2C are still 36k for high mileage, and over 40 for low mileage, bit pricy yet.
@@DjNikGnashers great buy, I personally don’t think the comp is worth the extra
@@chriswilkinson1991 I agree.
Yes the S55 is a bit more powerful (but the N55 remapped will make 400-410 so just the same), and the only other differences really are the seats (I actually prefer the OG seats, as they have the extender cushion), and the wing mirrors (which can be retrofitted if ppl are that bothered).
@@chriswilkinson1991it definitely is (I’ve had both)
@@DC5dottyi agree with you.
I really don't understand people who say this!
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The OG M2 feels more analog than the M2 comp. N55 sounds sick, S55 is the better engine, butt feels less lineair.
Great comprehensive review, and a great sounding car - even with GPF. Love the fact the review was refreshingly unbiased - both vs the newer pretender, and vs VAG, and a good follow up to the previous rs3 zm2 comparison
You corrected yourself by stating its a "baby M Car" , but it's not. Surely an M2 is a fully fledged M Car is it not ?
Hi Andrew, what a stunning car brilliant review
Would you say the BMWs are the ultimate driving machine in your opinion.
Thank you Vdub:)
Indeed a fabulous car, is now the time to buy? Probably have still further to fall, tracked the sale of a CS manual, wanted close to £100k privately achieved just over £50k at auction. Market is in a supply/demand imbalance, new cars being offered with massive discounts. Wait until the end of January when the credit card bills arrive to see who will hold their nerve.
We shall see, I’ve seen deals that are unbelievable. 12% off a car since August and I had to buy it before someone else did. But there are still plenty of very expensive cars that have no chance. I used to think car dealers were shrewd but many have bulldozed headlong into a massive crash not looking ahead. I’ve been out of the trade for 18 months waiting for this
@@volkswizard I’m fearful for any dealer holding large volumes of stock, that’s across the board at all price points. Are values plummeting or is this a price correction after some very greedy profit taking??
You look like Jay Kay with the shades on ! Great car and video, I am a Porsche man but if I had to be sensible ! HNY.
Looking at this video it appears that the "M2 comp" is a better all round car to the new "G87. I have just sold a 2020 M2 comp and now driving the new G87, i think my opinion differs sorry to upset you all guys.
The G87 is a much better daily no contest there. But you aint buying an m2 as a daily. The G87 is more an M4 than an M2. Nobody asked to get another M4….
Thats the problem.
I agree with you G87 is far superior car than F87 , and I had F87 for over 3 years. Only downside for me is ZF gearbox instead of dct but on the other hand it has 8 speed and its better for traffic and fuel consumption.
I think if a buyer can keep their nerve and wait May June when Britain’s in a recession they may save another few thousand. The fuel and insurance maintenance Road tax, it all mounts up I’m afraid 😟
It used to be just a war on speed.But now it seem it's a financial war on the motorist as well..
Haven't we e been in recession for over a year already?
Still one of my favourite cars
Very interesting and good video thanks Andrew👍
My pleasure Stephen, thank you 👍
As good as FWD cars are getting and they are incredibly capable, think megane 275 etc. however, I always find myself going back to a RWD, it is the ultimate layout for a sports car and proper driving dynamics. Ultimately, go to a racetrack and the brands you see speak volumes. Renault, BMW, Porsche
For me this is from the last generation of good looking Beemers, especially the interiors. The slab screened interiors of the latest models are nowhere near as classy.
completely agree
Andrew in a BMW . Wow. They are both awesome cars. You should review the Tesla mate. Getting one soon.
Only negative is 'keyless entry'. Ain't that a major theft risk?
Cute car❤
That’s barely any oversteer!
On a ratio of how much oversteer I was expecting vs how much I got, that was a lot of oversteer - I was just driving along normally. If that's normal for an M2 then it's a pretty unusable car for most of the year.
@@volkswizard fair enough. This is oversteer ;-). ua-cam.com/video/Tx_fs7hUGNg/v-deo.htmlsi=M3cltErAWxf0y3N8
It's one of the best looking M motors.Apart from the pug ugly low sitting exhaust box.
You eventually come to accept it is part of its character. It’s certainly better looking than the new M2.
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they still sound like absolute shite, despite this and the F80 M3 being the most beautiful looking cars.....
Had 2 M2s , original DCT and Comp Manual,, Personally think there over rated . they dont feel that special to own and drive. Get yourself a Jaguar F type R
This! I was expecting so much after all the hype back in 2016. I had a GT86 at the time i test drove an OG M2 and it felt like a fat pig muscle car, certainly no sports car lol.
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You mad🚮🚮
Complete rubbish 😊
Very true