Green Mills this was a replacement vehicle after my first one suffered engine failure so I decided to get out whilst I was still in positive equity and the market seemed good, didn’t want to be stuck with it if I lost my job during COVID
Ben Bradshaw this was actually my second M2 comp first one suffered engine failure, so BMW replaced it for a new one for me, unfortunately I was worried about COVID and how it would affect my career, so I got out of the car in case I lost my job and was stuck with the car, and because it was a brand new one I was in a very good position to settle my finance.
@@siddsakkik So is an Ateca FR, but it's not a BMW, (and likely more reliable). I think he should have got an M4 instead. Unless there's a baby on the way too?
@@denniswild4977 nothing a 3rd party exhaust can't fix ;) plus even an OG M2 you'd want the M Perf exhaust so you're going to want to splash out on an exhaust anyway... I'm bias too because I've got a comp 😂😂
I wanted a 1M, but too hard to find one. So, I went for the 2019 M2C gently used with 15,000 km on the clock. My 1st M car ever and love everything about it. But now I want em all- M2, M2C and 1M- after this great vid. !!! Had a blast watching this .Thank you !
I have an OG M2 (lci 2018) i recently fitted custom upholstered M4 competition seats. Basically M2 CS seats i suppose...😎 i purchased the seats online. They come originally from a BMW M4 competition prototype car, fitted with carbon texture cloth (Testvehicle with only 7000km’s) Very happy with these. They perform better while spirited driving and they look amazing! I sit slightly lower too. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=gptmkzpc44v2 I bought mine new six months before M2 COMP was prestented. It was easy 5-7K more over the OG M2, and in my country road taxes times 4 over OG M2, so 10k plus more EASY....Not worth the money i think. 100K for an M2 CS, YOU MUST BE KIDDING. NOT WORTH IT! 😂
the price difference is so wide because ones a '17 with no or very little factory warranty and the other is a '20 plate with best part of 3 yrs factory warranty. ignore the sh*t info in the video and do your own research. both cars were available in 2018, so a much easier comparison than a 2017 and a 2020. Black M2 '18 plate, dct, 12,700 miles - £37,495 Orange M2 Comp, '68 plate, dct, 14,000 miles - £39,990 both cars on autotrader right now. £2.5k difference is a lot better than £15k right ? and for that you get an extra 45 bhp, nicer wheels, much improved seats, better handling, bigger brakes (bigger still on this one as it has the factory upgrade over the standard already better comp brakes), 5 months extra factory warranty and the only downside is a little bit less noise.
th3b0untyhunter that’s a cracking reply! Want to add that the added power doesn’t really make much a difference since the Comp is heavier too. Only 20kg more than an M4. But the improvement in handling and power delivery makes the comp so much of a better car. So if you’re in the market for a 2018 M2... splash the extra 2.5k and get the comp. Otherwise get an older M2 as it’s just as good a car
That was like watching an old top gear segment (minus sliding it round a track and gurning). Compare 2 cars and then at the end saying you wouldn't choose either and go for something else 😂. Great video Sam.
Hey STG thank you for producing great videos as well as your knowledge with cars and your positive attitude i remember meeting you back in January of 2019 when you came to Lorbek Luxury Cars in Melbourne, you really inspired me and many others, so thank you for doing that and coming to the meet, was so fun cruising around Melbourne in a convoy of over 40 Supercars, keep up the amazing work STG!
As someone looking to buy an M2, I found this really useful, thanks Sam. I was already leaning towards the older M2 anyway, but this has helped reassure me in my decision.
I like the standard M2 more because its simpler, looks nicer and 13 grand is A LOT of money. I'd definitely take the M2 over the Comp. And I'd also take the 1M over both.
Interesting review Sam - enjoyed and agree with points made. As a Comp owner (previous M2 owner) i moved on based on the Comp being a more compliant daily... But come the odd track day I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the original just a little.
I have a 2017 M2 LCI, it was an early one registered in late July. Could have gone for an original one, but preferred the updated dash and rear lights of the LCI. As much as I'd love a Comp, it's just not that different to justify the extra cost. 370bhp is more than enough for the road. I tried to find a manual in Long Beach Metallic blue but they are RARE.
2018 LCI in LBB with a manual checking in! :D I had exacly the same thoughts... I came from a 125i (the 218hp inline 6 NA one) and could only testdrive the M2 on a rainy day. It tried to kill me twice that drive... That was what sold me. :)
The depreciation on the M2C is terrifying. It’ll be £30k next year. I’ve just been offered an M4C, six months old 3k miles that was nearly £80k new for £45k without even haggling. The market for M cars has collapsed and will only get worse in the coming months.
The 1M isn't really 'a few more quid a month' as most buyers of either M2 will be financed via PCP which will not be available on a 61 plate 1M making it a LOT more per month on HP.
one of the interesting points i saw someone make, who drove all 3 version of this car is that as you go from M2 > M2C > M2CS , the more and more COMFORTABLE the drive gets in the car, the more it gets to be suitable as a daily driver, which is the opposite of what BMW was trying to achieve.... lol.... these are the repercussions of when you let bean-counters make the final decisions on your business strategy smh
I'm so glad you pointed out that BMW's doesn't update their interiors as I have always thought that. I swear the interior designers only use two shapes the rectangle and circle on the interior of all BMW cars.
A good comparison between the standard M2 and M2 Competition. I can now see why that Paul ended up going with the M2 Comp. If I had the money and was choosing between the two, it would be the standard M2 for me. The sound of the exhaust and price would be my reasons.
Really enjoyed this. Love comparison videos of more affordable cars. Almost a classic Top Gear conclusion where you've driven two cars but then recommend one that wasn't even in the video 😄👍🏻 Love it.
The M2C is a better car in every way than the M2. Engine, suspension, interior, looks. The only thing which matters is if you can afford to buy a better car or not. You can keep the 1M thanks, it's a fugly parts bin special, I didn't jump on the hype train for that like the fangirls.
WhalleyRangeMassively better by many measurements, twin turbo so responds better, got more tuning capacity, closed deck block, better cooling and a better oil system.
Peer Niemann agreed the N55 only sounds better as no OPF and single turbo, the S55 is piped as a pair of 3 cylinders, so the sound could be better. But all round on every measure the S55 is better
n55 is better daily driver than s55. Who wants a 500-600 hp unless you are in the drag strip or a professional driver. I daily a 450 hp evo and it annoys me.
Just saw your Instagram story about low numbers. Chin up, those that haven’t watched are missing out. I watch your videos for a few reasons, not just because it’s about a cool car. So when a video is about “less” exciting cars like ‘just’ m2’s for which I’m not in the market, there are still reasons to watch. You make the best quality videos story-wise, there’s a point to your videos rather than just driving a car because you can. The visuals are also some of the best (bar Cars with Luke). Your personality is great entertainment too and a big factor. AND then you drive epic cars in cool locations. Big fan. Keep going. Oh and your thumbnails are always on point!
You really don’t want 500+bhp in an M2 though do you, that’s a mess. Maybe an akrapovic would help fix the noise? But you’re right, M3 and M4 with after market exhausts sound like they’re farting. I’d go manual M2 facelift with akrapovic and a gentle Litchfield tune 💪💪💪
Vrsf Dow pipe and Active Autoworks midpipe will solve all of the sound issues and then you can choose whichever axle back you fancy, stock will do as well.
Original M2 for me. Better looking (ie "slightly" more aggressive front bumper, non lci rear lights look better in my opinion) much better sounding too, way better wheels than the competition, only thing I would pick from the competition over the original are the seats.
As much as I love seeing you kicking the head in of these new expensive cars, i feel that a good portion of your viewers wont be considering a ferrari or a new porche for a few years at least. Would you consider maybe a ‘less than 10 grand’ series and drive some older, more depreciated cars and let people know what you think is a good deal for those who arent looking at something new
Thanks Sam this is a really good video and comparison. I’ve got an m2 LCI and I feel that the tech (it has the dials and newer nav from the comp) versus fun factor is just spot on. I like the 1M but I feel that the step backwards in tech would be a bit much, plus the m2 was a partsbin special like the 1M so that’s why it feels more like it than the comp, which I imagine is closer to the M4 in feel. Great vid though. Thanks
Great video 👍. A few points, I own a 2016 M2 and have retrofitted the LCI/M2C dials, they are easier to see in cloudy weather and are still analogue they are not actually digital, I too love analogue. I have also had the carbon and aluminium strut brace from the M4/M3/M2C retrofitted. This alone made a significant handling difference more to the chassis and suspension than the steering. The part numbers of the suspension between the M2 and M2C is confirmed as the same. All changes noted are due to the brace and yeh the car is so much more compliant and precise with it. The N55 with a sports cat such as I have sounds exotic and thuggish at the same time it's really brilliant. The M2C is more vacuum cleaner like in delivery. it is a really fun car it makes you work for the drive and grin like an idiot. I'd have the seats in the M2C though!
Here’s my 2018 LCI OG M2 with M2 CS style seats. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=1ni5wkrhx1ns8 I like them more then OG ones. Much better support and they look amazing
@@Franzino all in just over a grand. And I got the CF and aluminium brace off eBay for £360, incredibly low price off a breaker. Don't expect to find that deal again. Big thread on bimmerpost forum's about the brace
Peter Wood, there are plenty of sets on eBay, at least 6 month’s ago when i was looking. I even came across a complete M2 COMP interior, red stitching...Just google BMW F82 interior for sale. Select images and scroll away...some pictures will direct you to eBay, Some from crashed car salvagers, others like mine, prototype car interiors can mainly be found with used carparts dealers on eBay. More often than not though they are complete interiors and for the better part lefthanded drive items. COMP spec seats are rare though. As are righthanded drive items. I bought mine from an independent BMW specialist in Holland. He even retrofitted the seatheating, since mine were cloth wrapped seats. He also preinstalled the airbags. I swapped/sent him my OG airbags. All F serie airbags are exchangeable, same partnumber. There are some good threads on Bimmerpost on this topic. Here’s a link from what i posted on Bimmerpost. www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25570472 This was a supprisingly easy job. Just read the threads on the forums. No coding required. Only need basic skills, take your time. Always disconnect the battery when working on airbag equipped items. Use your OG electric seatmodules if you want the electric functions to work. It’s plug and play basically. Manual seats are a great deal cheaper... if you want the illuminated seatlogo’s to lighten up then you’ll need to install some extra wiring and I believe also coding. I didn’t do so, It doesn’t bother me. You can swap all safety equipment, airbags, seatbelt tensioners from OG items to the donor seats.
Having been on a road trip in my friends M2 competition for about 4000km in 6 days I can safely say that the seats are magnificent. Never got tired from the long drives, and the sound in the car wasn't tiring either. Unless you really floored it, the engine sound didn't overpower the music. The power is just unbelievable. Cruising at 200km/h feels like going 80 in a normal car, and yet, if you need to, there is still power to push it even further (which we did on several occasions). Such a great car. The only thing I don't like is the very visible exhaust muffler, looks a bit unfinished because of it. From the looks of it, it's not visible on the standard M2.
Regular M2 with full coilover set up, M2 Comp sport seats and some lightweight M Performance parts over M2 Comp, not like M2 Comp come out the factory flawless, still need some modding for it to ride well and handle well Just got to the end, that 1M is the ideal choice
No need to waste money on an Akra dude. Get a used M Performance exhaust for less! Check out my latest video for a sound clip and tell me that doesn't sound great!
You are so lucky in your country… here in Italy prices are out of control… cars are much more expensive. An interesting thing is that here there is less gap between normal and Comp… Nice video, thank you!😊
Great video. Both amazing cars, but different mustard. I'd take the M2 Comp if I had the pennies, but I don't so if you buy the M2 and want it faster, just take it to Motech or Birds performance. The 1M is just one of the best cars ever made.
I have an M235. I’ve thought about upgrading to an M2 or M2C but I haven’t yet for a few reasons. Getting into an N55 M2 would only be for the wider body and better suspension. The N55 in the M235 is the essentially the same (both have the same forged internals) minus better oiling in the M2. I’m currently full bolt ons, on MHD’s E tune and have the XHP trans flash which takes the already amazing ZF8 trans and feeds it cocaine and Red Bull. I could just suck it up, skip the nicer look of the M2, the better suspension, keep the M235 and spend the extra money on a bigger turbo etc. The M2C does have a proper “M” engine but I think most would agree that the S55 does not sound nearly as good as the N55. Plus it has that crank hub issue. You also pay a lot more for S55 mods imo. It does sound amazing however, if single turbo’d. So is the extra 15k really worth it for me to upgrade to an M2C? If my pockets were deep enough it would be a hell yes. I would fix the crank hub and single turbo it asap. But for now, I’ll stick with the M235. For everyone else it comes down to preference and your own personal situation. If you already have an M235/M240 and not sure if the upgrade is worth it, I’d pass on both F87 cars unless you really want one then go for it. If you have neither, I’d get the M2 and mod that. If money isn’t really an issue, you plan to go big power and are willing to take care of the crank hub issue, M2C is your champ.
I don’t do depreciation so 1M all day long.... they have the rarity factor too and are just downright special. Chris Harris bought one and that man knows his onions
And this is why all the fangirls jumped on the hype train 'Chris Harris has one so it automatically must be the best car in the world lololol ..................... It's a fugly parts bin special which just happens to be good fun on a smooth trackday, for about an hour until your back gives in. You don't think the M2 will drop to about 25k in value then start to climb again and become 'desirable' ??? Or the M2C for that matter ??? M2C is a much better car in every way than a 1M.
2023 here✋. With the introduction of the new m2, the price difference on the used market has narrowed between the m2 comp and the “Og” m2. Both are fantastic cars but if you can find a deal on an m2 comp it will be much more desirable vs the n55 m2 years to come
M2 is not more fun. M2 is more ragged, too inclined for the rear to snap out M2C is a lot better handling. poorer handling doesnt mean a car is more fun. noise is the ONLY thing a non Comp does better - and thats down to EU regs not any fault of BMW ive driven multiple versions of both cars for a lot more than a "quick round the block near Gravelwood"
@@th3b0untyhunter it's not better handling it just more liniear power and less wheel spin in low rpm range because of that , both this cars handle similar they have exactly same suspension, m2c is little more front heavy couse of s55 weight. Just can't agree it's a better handling car.
I just bought my third OG M2. I didn’t consider the comp due to the sound and less aggressive looks. OG looks better, sounds better, and less expensive. If I was all out performance the comp. Everything else is the OG.
I love your honesty. Not many car guys would come out blatantly with a preference, lest they get dumped by the manufacturer. In this case you came out on the side of the 1M. Too funny. I was thinking 1M during the entirety of this video.
Agree 1M is best choice and will continue to appreciate in value. Base M2 seems like best bang for the buck between these 2. I do think M2 CS will be a car to own when they begin production 💪
The M2 CS is just a Competition with adaptive suspension and carbon bits for eye candy. Same 550Nm of torque, so it's just an engine retune. As heavy as M2C unless you specify carbon ceramic brakes... which makes it non-sensical compared to a Porsche. CS is just pure marketing.
OG M2 is the way to go.. the extra 45 hp on this car is really not needed... M2C is how BMW tried to be cute and creative to ask you to pay more.. glad that I got my OG M2 before M2C came out... didn’t feel like spending an extra $5k for it
Superb content as Always Sam 🙂👍🏻 If i could have one, it would be the Comp, Although for an 'Everyday' car, it would be the 340 sport 😉👍🏻 Keep up the great work on this and behind the glass 👍🏻 All the best, Mark 👍🏻
Great video Sam (as always). I think I agree, out of the three, the 1m is the more special and perhaps most fun! probably not the best, but that doesn't matter
"it doesn't squirm about" Sounds boring, I love a bit of surprise death. Need to save up for a TVR instead. Or just anything with the correct number of pedals
I have test drive both ones and prefer Competition. Better brakes, front end grip and power delivery. Worth the price difference? Nope. But in M2C you’re in much better position to tune engine. S55 no problem with 500. N55 I would not go more than 400.
Hmm, where I live in Singapore, not many twisty roads to enjoy. So I’ll save the cash and get the standard M2. Brilliant little coupe, one of my dream daily-drivers alongside an S4 and Alfa Giulia Veloce, can’t go wrong with it! 👍🏻
I had a BMW. E90 facelift model. It's safe to say I'm never buying another one. Yeah they're great cars if you want to keep dumping money into them. If I do get another one I'll just lease it. Drive it without worrying.
@@jim8462 that's fair enough. I like the arches too but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. An M240i with the right mods will be considerably cheaper than even an original M2 (let alone an M2C) and can be 99.9% of the car to drive.
To most car enthusiasts, either of these cars would be a dream car. I've driven both of them and they're both wonderful ... but I settled on a 2018 6MT M2 and I think that's the sweet spot of this car. Interior-wise, the only major differences between a 2018 M2 and a 2019+ M2 Comp are the seats and the drive mode selectors ... but the different drive modes almost become irrelevant in the manual version specifically because the only way to turn off rev-matching is to fully disable ESC. Doing this defaults every aspect of the car to "sport" mode and renders individual modes irrelevant (unless you disable the feature after-market). Both of these have the updated digital dash too ... but man do i wish those M3/M4 seats (albeit they're in dakota (rough) and not merino (soft) leather) were offered in the pre-comp models. Sound-wise it's no competition (...literally) and if you shop around and do research you can find used M2's with the MPE option for roughly the same amount as a stock exhaust version ($500 - $1k difference when the exhaust and tips cost over 4k new) and then the sound becomes next level. A simple stage one with an aluminum charge pipe for more reliability will give you roughly the same numbers as the comp and also be lighter (most all of which is over the front axle because of the engines) and it seems that the lighter BMW's are more often than not the ones that people like more when it comes to driving. That being said, I was laughing 30 seconds into my test drive of a 2020 M2 comp prior to my purchase of the 2018 because of how amazing and raw the car felt. Like I said, either of these are a dream car for most.
I reckon the M2 is loads unless you drive the Comp back to back. Your right Sam, the 1M is class. Woukd love one. Ask Tony to sell to me for 25k, please please please.
Still don't get the facination with digital screens...for me they are a huge off put...like staring at a computer screen who wants that in a car it's bad for your eyes and tiring Analogue All they way
That’s my old M2, absolutely stunning car, hurts to see it gone but it will go to a good new home.
You bought a car, ran it in, then sold it. Strange how you never kept it long enough to use it properly.
Ben Bradshaw that’s the big baller life son🤷🏻♂️
Green Mills this was a replacement vehicle after my first one suffered engine failure so I decided to get out whilst I was still in positive equity and the market seemed good, didn’t want to be stuck with it if I lost my job during COVID
Ben Bradshaw this was actually my second M2 comp first one suffered engine failure, so BMW replaced it for a new one for me, unfortunately I was worried about COVID and how it would affect my career, so I got out of the car in case I lost my job and was stuck with the car, and because it was a brand new one I was in a very good position to settle my finance.
enrique garcia nothing baller about that.
3:48 - “I like a smaller car” - the man who has just purchased a BMW SUV 😂
Was thinking the same!
But its one of the smaller SUV’S out there
@@siddsakkik So is an Ateca FR, but it's not a BMW, (and likely more reliable). I think he should have got an M4 instead. Unless there's a baby on the way too?
@@siddsakkik X3 is not small
@@ElTurfStuff something definitely fishy 🤔 going on with see-throughglass
Picking my M2 OG up tomorrow. The 10-15k extra wasn’t worth it for me, plus I prefer the original M2 alloys and read end
The N55 sounds miles better too 👍
Horrible suspension and woeful brakes though compared to the M2C
Rear end? Ignoring the muffler, they’re both the same as the back...
@@MrHCars the muffler looks silly
@@denniswild4977 nothing a 3rd party exhaust can't fix ;) plus even an OG M2 you'd want the M Perf exhaust so you're going to want to splash out on an exhaust anyway...
I'm bias too because I've got a comp 😂😂
I wanted a 1M, but too hard to find one. So, I went for the 2019 M2C gently used with 15,000 km on the clock. My 1st M car ever and love everything about it. But now I want em all- M2, M2C and 1M- after this great vid. !!! Had a blast watching this .Thank you !
If you want them all then you missed out the M3, M4, M5, M6, M8
@@neil9242 you are absolutely correct .
I'll start on the 1's and 2's first .
Also eyeing e46, e49 and e28 M's .
Dream.dream.dream 😅
Best enthousiast cars there are! Love my OG M2 everyday.
Any crazy service prices or problems?
Think I'd buy the M2 and fit the M2 Comp seats 😂
Over £1000 for those I want some for mine
Lol was thinking this
And the wheels 😂
Josh the standard wheels accentuates the arches more I feel. I saw a black comp with the older wheels and it looked mean
I have an OG M2 (lci 2018) i recently fitted custom upholstered M4 competition seats. Basically M2 CS seats i suppose...😎 i purchased the seats online. They come originally from a BMW M4 competition prototype car, fitted with carbon texture cloth (Testvehicle with only 7000km’s) Very happy with these. They perform better while spirited driving and they look amazing! I sit slightly lower too. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=gptmkzpc44v2
I bought mine new six months before M2 COMP was prestented. It was easy 5-7K more over the OG M2, and in my country road taxes times 4 over OG M2, so 10k plus more EASY....Not worth the money i think. 100K for an M2 CS, YOU MUST BE KIDDING. NOT WORTH IT! 😂
I actually like the look of the standard m2 more. Good thing they're considerably cheaper.
the price difference is so wide because ones a '17 with no or very little factory warranty and the other is a '20 plate with best part of 3 yrs factory warranty.
ignore the sh*t info in the video and do your own research.
both cars were available in 2018, so a much easier comparison than a 2017 and a 2020.
Black M2 '18 plate, dct, 12,700 miles - £37,495
Orange M2 Comp, '68 plate, dct, 14,000 miles - £39,990
both cars on autotrader right now.
£2.5k difference is a lot better than £15k right ?
and for that you get an extra 45 bhp, nicer wheels, much improved seats, better handling, bigger brakes (bigger still on this one as it has the factory upgrade over the standard already better comp brakes), 5 months extra factory warranty and the only downside is a little bit less noise.
th3b0untyhunter that’s a cracking reply! Want to add that the added power doesn’t really make much a difference since the Comp is heavier too. Only 20kg more than an M4.
But the improvement in handling and power delivery makes the comp so much of a better car. So if you’re in the market for a 2018 M2... splash the extra 2.5k and get the comp. Otherwise get an older M2 as it’s just as good a car
Me too and the sound
@@th3b0untyhunter nah the wheels are nicer on the standard car. And yeah, I've heard it is quite heavy for what it is
Lol embarrassing bro
M2 Comp I reckon, brilliant machine in looks and driving performance! the best M car on sale today!
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I think you know I'd argue that it's the best M car, but I may be biased 😉
Winnipeg Car Life No one knows you
@@mooiboyace actually, the OP does. Hence my familiarity. But yeah, otherwise, nobody knows me
Winnipeg Car Life M2 CS is the best M car.
Tony has had them both so long he may as well register them in his name 😂
That was like watching an old top gear segment (minus sliding it round a track and gurning). Compare 2 cars and then at the end saying you wouldn't choose either and go for something else 😂. Great video Sam.
Hey STG thank you for producing great videos as well as your knowledge with cars and your positive attitude i remember meeting you back in January of 2019 when you came to Lorbek Luxury Cars in Melbourne, you really inspired me and many others, so thank you for doing that and coming to the meet, was so fun cruising around Melbourne in a convoy of over 40 Supercars, keep up the amazing work STG!
That day was definitely a highlight! Was great to meet Sam and he even took a minute to have a quick chat with me 😁
You're right about the sound of the 2017 M2 revving up higher. I have the M-Performance exhaust and it completely transforms the experience.
Old m2 for me , plus I love the N55 engine👌🏻
No crank hub issue?
@@fzr1000981nope
@@fzr1000981nope, my PWG n55 is sitting 205k miles rn🙏🏻 kickass engine
@@camtaliban6021 S58 for me, anything else is a dart toss
As someone looking to buy an M2, I found this really useful, thanks Sam. I was already leaning towards the older M2 anyway, but this has helped reassure me in my decision.
I like the standard M2 more because its simpler, looks nicer and 13 grand is A LOT of money. I'd definitely take the M2 over the Comp. And I'd also take the 1M over both.
Interesting review Sam - enjoyed and agree with points made.
As a Comp owner (previous M2 owner) i moved on based on the Comp being a more compliant daily... But come the odd track day I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the original just a little.
I have a 2017 M2 LCI, it was an early one registered in late July. Could have gone for an original one, but preferred the updated dash and rear lights of the LCI. As much as I'd love a Comp, it's just not that different to justify the extra cost. 370bhp is more than enough for the road. I tried to find a manual in Long Beach Metallic blue but they are RARE.
2018 LCI in LBB with a manual checking in! :D I had exacly the same thoughts... I came from a 125i (the 218hp inline 6 NA one) and could only testdrive the M2 on a rainy day. It tried to kill me twice that drive... That was what sold me. :)
@@doenaa My cheap ass M140i has 455bhp/634nm and still running it's open diff.
On the try-to-kill-ometer I score a 9.5.
I have the 2018 OG M2 with LCI. Many compliments. It's a keeper.
Brilliant video sam if I had the extra 15k the m2c would be my choice but as I dont the m2 will be fine cheers steve 😀👍
Thanks for tuning in
You can buy m2c for 35k so y get the m2 lol donut
The depreciation on the M2C is terrifying. It’ll be £30k next year.
I’ve just been offered an M4C, six months old 3k miles that was nearly £80k new for £45k without even haggling. The market for M cars has collapsed and will only get worse in the coming months.
Chris Mcintosh corona car dealers are desperate calm down
The 1M isn't really 'a few more quid a month' as most buyers of either M2 will be financed via PCP which will not be available on a 61 plate 1M making it a LOT more per month on HP.
Great shout. 👍
11:48 the dials are actually analog as the old ones just a different design and some trickery to make them as close to digital as possible
The only digital part is the low centre right corner
one of the interesting points i saw someone make, who drove all 3 version of this car
is that as you go from M2 > M2C > M2CS , the more and more COMFORTABLE the drive gets in the car, the more it gets to be suitable as a daily driver,
which is the opposite of what BMW was trying to achieve.... lol....
these are the repercussions of when you let bean-counters make the final decisions on your business strategy smh
I'm so glad you pointed out that BMW's doesn't update their interiors as I have always thought that. I swear the interior designers only use two shapes the rectangle and circle on the interior of all BMW cars.
A good comparison between the standard M2 and M2 Competition. I can now see why that Paul ended up going with the M2 Comp. If I had the money and was choosing between the two, it would be the standard M2 for me. The sound of the exhaust and price would be my reasons.
Really enjoyed this. Love comparison videos of more affordable cars. Almost a classic Top Gear conclusion where you've driven two cars but then recommend one that wasn't even in the video 😄👍🏻 Love it.
Spot on Sam, you should do more reviews like this!
The M2C is a better car in every way than the M2.
Engine, suspension, interior, looks.
The only thing which matters is if you can afford to buy a better car or not.
You can keep the 1M thanks, it's a fugly parts bin special, I didn't jump on the hype train for that like the fangirls.
Update, just bought a 2016 M2, with 25,000 miles on, one lady owner, FSH, and garaged all it's life.
Pick it up tomorrow !!!
M2, comp isn't worth £15k/50% more, just change the seats to Recaros. M2 sounds better and you don't need all the stupid adjustments.
But the s55 is definitely the better engine.
@@peerniemann7396 its got more power but is it better?
WhalleyRangeMassively better by many measurements, twin turbo so responds better, got more tuning capacity, closed deck block, better cooling and a better oil system.
Peer Niemann agreed the N55 only sounds better as no OPF and single turbo, the S55 is piped as a pair of 3 cylinders, so the sound could be better. But all round on every measure the S55 is better
n55 is better daily driver than s55. Who wants a 500-600 hp unless you are in the drag strip or a professional driver. I daily a 450 hp evo and it annoys me.
Just saw your Instagram story about low numbers. Chin up, those that haven’t watched are missing out. I watch your videos for a few reasons, not just because it’s about a cool car. So when a video is about “less” exciting cars like ‘just’ m2’s for which I’m not in the market, there are still reasons to watch. You make the best quality videos story-wise, there’s a point to your videos rather than just driving a car because you can. The visuals are also some of the best (bar Cars with Luke). Your personality is great entertainment too and a big factor. AND then you drive epic cars in cool locations. Big fan. Keep going. Oh and your thumbnails are always on point!
You really don’t want 500+bhp in an M2 though do you, that’s a mess. Maybe an akrapovic would help fix the noise? But you’re right, M3 and M4 with after market exhausts sound like they’re farting.
I’d go manual M2 facelift with akrapovic and a gentle Litchfield tune 💪💪💪
Vrsf Dow pipe and Active Autoworks midpipe will solve all of the sound issues and then you can choose whichever axle back you fancy, stock will do as well.
Original M2 for me. Better looking (ie "slightly" more aggressive front bumper, non lci rear lights look better in my opinion) much better sounding too, way better wheels than the competition, only thing I would pick from the competition over the original are the seats.
And the engine lol
And the brakes
Tony has had that 1M in stock for ages.
Let's hope the recommendation finally shifts it from his stock sheet!
He hasn't found a blind person to buy it yet ?
1M is a fugly parts bin special, I never jumped on that hype train.
As much as I love seeing you kicking the head in of these new expensive cars, i feel that a good portion of your viewers wont be considering a ferrari or a new porche for a few years at least. Would you consider maybe a ‘less than 10 grand’ series and drive some older, more depreciated cars and let people know what you think is a good deal for those who arent looking at something new
Thanks Sam this is a really good video and comparison. I’ve got an m2 LCI and I feel that the tech (it has the dials and newer nav from the comp) versus fun factor is just spot on. I like the 1M but I feel that the step backwards in tech would be a bit much, plus the m2 was a partsbin special like the 1M so that’s why it feels more like it than the comp, which I imagine is closer to the M4 in feel. Great vid though. Thanks
I’ve always wanted a 1M and I think that’s part of the reason why I love the M2.
No longer a choice between a comp and a non-comp. What can a comp do that a non-comp can't?
Great video 👍. A few points, I own a 2016 M2 and have retrofitted the LCI/M2C dials, they are easier to see in cloudy weather and are still analogue they are not actually digital, I too love analogue. I have also had the carbon and aluminium strut brace from the M4/M3/M2C retrofitted. This alone made a significant handling difference more to the chassis and suspension than the steering. The part numbers of the suspension between the M2 and M2C is confirmed as the same. All changes noted are due to the brace and yeh the car is so much more compliant and precise with it. The N55 with a sports cat such as I have sounds exotic and thuggish at the same time it's really brilliant. The M2C is more vacuum cleaner like in delivery. it is a really fun car it makes you work for the drive and grin like an idiot. I'd have the seats in the M2C though!
Is retrofitting the carbon and aluminium strut brace from the M4/M3/M2C a complex (expensive) procedure?
Here’s my 2018 LCI OG M2 with M2 CS style seats. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=1ni5wkrhx1ns8
I like them more then OG ones. Much better support and they look amazing
@@Jb001jb those M4 comp seats? Where'd you get them from?
@@Franzino all in just over a grand. And I got the CF and aluminium brace off eBay for £360, incredibly low price off a breaker. Don't expect to find that deal again. Big thread on bimmerpost forum's about the brace
Peter Wood, there are plenty of sets on eBay, at least 6 month’s ago when i was looking. I even came across a complete M2 COMP interior, red stitching...Just google BMW F82 interior for sale. Select images and scroll away...some pictures will direct you to eBay, Some from crashed car salvagers, others like mine, prototype car interiors can mainly be found with used carparts dealers on eBay. More often than not though they are complete interiors and for the better part lefthanded drive items. COMP spec seats are rare though. As are righthanded drive items. I bought mine from an independent BMW specialist in Holland. He even retrofitted the seatheating, since mine were cloth wrapped seats. He also preinstalled the airbags. I swapped/sent him my OG airbags. All F serie airbags are exchangeable, same partnumber. There are some good threads on Bimmerpost on this topic. Here’s a link from what i posted on Bimmerpost. www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25570472 This was a supprisingly easy job. Just read the threads on the forums. No coding required. Only need basic skills, take your time. Always disconnect the battery when working on airbag equipped items. Use your OG electric seatmodules if you want the electric functions to work. It’s plug and play basically. Manual seats are a great deal cheaper... if you want the illuminated seatlogo’s to lighten up then you’ll need to install some extra wiring and I believe also coding. I didn’t do so, It doesn’t bother me. You can swap all safety equipment, airbags, seatbelt tensioners from OG items to the donor seats.
Having been on a road trip in my friends M2 competition for about 4000km in 6 days I can safely say that the seats are magnificent. Never got tired from the long drives, and the sound in the car wasn't tiring either. Unless you really floored it, the engine sound didn't overpower the music. The power is just unbelievable. Cruising at 200km/h feels like going 80 in a normal car, and yet, if you need to, there is still power to push it even further (which we did on several occasions). Such a great car.
The only thing I don't like is the very visible exhaust muffler, looks a bit unfinished because of it. From the looks of it, it's not visible on the standard M2.
The standard M2 sounds a lot better!
In EU and UK where particulate filters are mandatory. Besides, different engines, you morons.
M2 LCI addresses all of the cons mentioned apart from the seats and adaptive suspension, more character than the M2 Comp for sure 👌🏼
Yeup and the m2 comp doesn't have adaptive suspension either only the m2cs received this.
M2 LCi for the win! that's exactly what I bought
Had to pause at 6:55 to leave you a comment. THANK YOU for putting both side by side for a sound comparison.
I like the Standard M2 much more looks wise
1) Better Wheels
2) No hideous muffler hanging on the back
3) Better Kidney grille
I'd like a regular M2 non-competition but LCI model years and with the Comp seats retrofitted please :)
As an owner of a ‘17 manual M2 you are going to LOVE LOVE LOVE the sound!
ppl are saying the brakes are bad? i recently experienced a m2c and thought the og m2 would have the same suspension and brake setup?
I’ve had both . The OG is the more enjoyable car . Looks better too.
Sam before drive the world: I might get a twizy for round London.
Also Sam : buys a BMW
Yea sam buy a suv bmw also
which one is better to tune tho?
Regular M2 with full coilover set up, M2 Comp sport seats and some lightweight M Performance parts over M2 Comp, not like M2 Comp come out the factory flawless, still need some modding for it to ride well and handle well
Just got to the end, that 1M is the ideal choice
The M2C rides better than OG as is
Think I would be happy with the original M2 and updated seats and wing mirrors!
Nice to see you giving Tony a little promo at the same time.
I’d also consider the 1M. Hopefully this choice of having to choose which one will have to happen sooner than later
Who wouldnt?
F87 M2 LCI over M2C all the way. Engine/exhaust note is pure.
I like the way the comp sounds better.
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Sounds like you think the M2 is a shrunken M4. Personally I'd get the older M2 in manual, and fit the comp seats and an akra back box
No need to waste money on an Akra dude. Get a used M Performance exhaust for less! Check out my latest video for a sound clip and tell me that doesn't sound great!
Great video Sam. I have a m2 manual 2017 and it’s awesome. Very fun car to drive and a awesome daily!
You are so lucky in your country… here in Italy prices are out of control… cars are much more expensive. An interesting thing is that here there is less gap between normal and Comp…
Nice video, thank you!😊
That orange tho 😍😍
best color indeed, and more rare to see
Love the Vid as well as all the others you have posted recently
Great video. Both amazing cars, but different mustard. I'd take the M2 Comp if I had the pennies, but I don't so if you buy the M2 and want it faster, just take it to Motech or Birds performance. The 1M is just one of the best cars ever made.
M2 comp manual : perfect and rare.
I have an M235. I’ve thought about upgrading to an M2 or M2C but I haven’t yet for a few reasons. Getting into an N55 M2 would only be for the wider body and better suspension. The N55 in the M235 is the essentially the same (both have the same forged internals) minus better oiling in the M2. I’m currently full bolt ons, on MHD’s E tune and have the XHP trans flash which takes the already amazing ZF8 trans and feeds it cocaine and Red Bull. I could just suck it up, skip the nicer look of the M2, the better suspension, keep the M235 and spend the extra money on a bigger turbo etc. The M2C does have a proper “M” engine but I think most would agree that the S55 does not sound nearly as good as the N55. Plus it has that crank hub issue. You also pay a lot more for S55 mods imo. It does sound amazing however, if single turbo’d. So is the extra 15k really worth it for me to upgrade to an M2C? If my pockets were deep enough it would be a hell yes. I would fix the crank hub and single turbo it asap. But for now, I’ll stick with the M235. For everyone else it comes down to preference and your own personal situation. If you already have an M235/M240 and not sure if the upgrade is worth it, I’d pass on both F87 cars unless you really want one then go for it. If you have neither, I’d get the M2 and mod that. If money isn’t really an issue, you plan to go big power and are willing to take care of the crank hub issue, M2C is your champ.
Fair analysis, except that an M235i/240i will never handle like a full M even with significant mods
Went from the 240i to an OG 2018 - better than your 235i and you’re dead wrong. The feel, sound, presence, are just two completely different cars.
I don’t do depreciation so 1M all day long.... they have the rarity factor too and are just downright special. Chris Harris bought one and that man knows his onions
And this is why all the fangirls jumped on the hype train 'Chris Harris has one so it automatically must be the best car in the world lololol .....................
It's a fugly parts bin special which just happens to be good fun on a smooth trackday, for about an hour until your back gives in.
You don't think the M2 will drop to about 25k in value then start to climb again and become 'desirable' ??? Or the M2C for that matter ???
M2C is a much better car in every way than a 1M.
I love small powerful cars , BMW m2 competition is perfect.
2023 here✋. With the introduction of the new m2, the price difference on the used market has narrowed between the m2 comp and the “Og” m2. Both are fantastic cars but if you can find a deal on an m2 comp it will be much more desirable vs the n55 m2 years to come
Then explain why the og value has skyrocketed while the comp has stayed the same?
Standard M2 just because of the money gap between both of the cars!
The difference between the 2 in driving terms is huge.
The comp is simply better in every single way
th3b0untyhunter other than noise and fun as per the vid.
@@th3b0untyhunter just can't agree with that, OG M2 it's more fun and raw also sounds better
M2 is not more fun.
M2 is more ragged, too inclined for the rear to snap out
M2C is a lot better handling.
poorer handling doesnt mean a car is more fun.
noise is the ONLY thing a non Comp does better - and thats down to EU regs not any fault of BMW
ive driven multiple versions of both cars for a lot more than a "quick round the block near Gravelwood"
@@th3b0untyhunter it's not better handling it just more liniear power and less wheel spin in low rpm range because of that , both this cars handle similar they have exactly same suspension, m2c is little more front heavy couse of s55 weight. Just can't agree it's a better handling car.
Never thought I would see you liking bmws more. Good comparison video. You need to test drive the 1m next.
I just bought my third OG M2. I didn’t consider the comp due to the sound and less aggressive looks. OG looks better, sounds better, and less expensive.
If I was all out performance the comp. Everything else is the OG.
I love your honesty. Not many car guys would come out blatantly with a preference, lest they get dumped by the manufacturer. In this case you came out on the side of the 1M. Too funny. I was thinking 1M during the entirety of this video.
Really like that you are enjoying M cars again.
Agree 1M is best choice and will continue to appreciate in value. Base M2 seems like best bang for the buck between these 2. I do think M2 CS will be a car to own when they begin production 💪
The 1M only appreciates in value if you don't drive it.
The M2 CS is just a Competition with adaptive suspension and carbon bits for eye candy. Same 550Nm of torque, so it's just an engine retune. As heavy as M2C unless you specify carbon ceramic brakes... which makes it non-sensical compared to a Porsche. CS is just pure marketing.
Your track choices are always on point!
OG M2 is the way to go.. the extra 45 hp on this car is really not needed...
M2C is how BMW tried to be cute and creative to ask you to pay more.. glad that I got my OG M2 before M2C came out... didn’t feel like spending an extra $5k for it
Superb content as Always Sam 🙂👍🏻
If i could have one, it would be the Comp,
Although for an 'Everyday' car, it would be the 340 sport 😉👍🏻
Keep up the great work on this and behind the glass 👍🏻
All the best,
Mark 👍🏻
Great video Sam (as always). I think I agree, out of the three, the 1m is the more special and perhaps most fun! probably not the best, but that doesn't matter
M2 LCI for the win! Engine has more character than the Competition, prettier kidney grill and better sound from exhaust.
Engine has more character? 😂 obviously haven't driven an S55
Engine sound is the ultimate driving sensation so N55 is my choice.
"it doesn't squirm about"
Sounds boring, I love a bit of surprise death. Need to save up for a TVR instead. Or just anything with the correct number of pedals
Bro, of course the 1M is great, but those things are like collectors items, you can't just buy one and use it as a daily
Got half way through the vid before realising I'm wearing that t-shirt 😂
hey sam just watched the vid and read your comment, i too are wearing the same tshirt .. and the jeans. aslo got a blue m2
The M2 comp will cost you way less in running costs over the next 3 years. The 1M has 50k miles on it will need looking after
Why will it cost less?
Take that extra 10k and throw an exhaust, intake, coil overs, and tune and still have cash left, the base is a better value for sure.
I have test drive both ones and prefer Competition. Better brakes, front end grip and power delivery. Worth the price difference? Nope. But in M2C you’re in much better position to tune engine. S55 no problem with 500. N55 I would not go more than 400.
M2 purely because they sound so much better!! And also the price gap!
3 years later a 2nd competition still costs 52.000 pound with about 50k km on it, here in NL...a manual would be ±55k pounds...
The comp is an opf car too so won’t sound as loud either.
The comp is more 'refined'. That’s the word you are looking for. The m2 is more 'analog'. You got that right.
No. The M2 is more raw and nimble. The M2C is more evolved and superior.
Any M2 would do the job for me, such a fun little car
BOTH? 🤔
The new noise rules are a real downer.
check the newly developed equal length exhaust systems, they have solved the sound problem.
you can get in the normal m2 the digital display
Yes, got one, the LCI
1M Costs more than both now in UK!
Hmm, where I live in Singapore, not many twisty roads to enjoy. So I’ll save the cash and get the standard M2. Brilliant little coupe, one of my dream daily-drivers alongside an S4 and Alfa Giulia Veloce, can’t go wrong with it! 👍🏻
I had a BMW. E90 facelift model. It's safe to say I'm never buying another one. Yeah they're great cars if you want to keep dumping money into them. If I do get another one I'll just lease it. Drive it without worrying.
New or used E90?
3rd option - get a m240i, fit an LSD and save a tonne of money
also needs bilstein b12, m4 lca & ts and recon f3x msport brakes.
but yes on the whole your right
th3b0untyhunter just doesn’t have those wide arches which was the deal breaker for me.
@@jim8462 that's fair enough.
I like the arches too but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
An M240i with the right mods will be considerably cheaper than even an original M2 (let alone an M2C) and can be 99.9% of the car to drive.
99.9% of the drive? Sure, in another planet... UR-ANUS 😂
Sam, why do you do the shuffle when in front of the camera? Not a jab at you. Love the content you upload. One of the best IMHO.
To most car enthusiasts, either of these cars would be a dream car. I've driven both of them and they're both wonderful ... but I settled on a 2018 6MT M2 and I think that's the sweet spot of this car. Interior-wise, the only major differences between a 2018 M2 and a 2019+ M2 Comp are the seats and the drive mode selectors ... but the different drive modes almost become irrelevant in the manual version specifically because the only way to turn off rev-matching is to fully disable ESC. Doing this defaults every aspect of the car to "sport" mode and renders individual modes irrelevant (unless you disable the feature after-market). Both of these have the updated digital dash too ... but man do i wish those M3/M4 seats (albeit they're in dakota (rough) and not merino (soft) leather) were offered in the pre-comp models. Sound-wise it's no competition (...literally) and if you shop around and do research you can find used M2's with the MPE option for roughly the same amount as a stock exhaust version ($500 - $1k difference when the exhaust and tips cost over 4k new) and then the sound becomes next level. A simple stage one with an aluminum charge pipe for more reliability will give you roughly the same numbers as the comp and also be lighter (most all of which is over the front axle because of the engines) and it seems that the lighter BMW's are more often than not the ones that people like more when it comes to driving. That being said, I was laughing 30 seconds into my test drive of a 2020 M2 comp prior to my purchase of the 2018 because of how amazing and raw the car felt. Like I said, either of these are a dream car for most.
I reckon the M2 is loads unless you drive the Comp back to back.
Your right Sam, the 1M is class. Woukd love one. Ask Tony to sell to me for 25k, please please please.
Still don't get the facination with digital screens...for me they are a huge off put...like staring at a computer screen who wants that in a car it's bad for your eyes and tiring
Analogue All they way
The M2C is 85% analogue too. It's only the centre right corner that is a digital panel.
Get a 2002, wiil fit nicely next to the 360. If I had a choice, a Competition 👍
Great video sam . Definitely worth going to the base m2. Sound way nice once you toss on a exhausted on