Fallout Talk - Let's Talk About Fallout 3's Impact
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Let's take a look at the impact of Fallout 3 on the franchise and the fandom. How it teaches the players about what Fallout is and how it shapes Fallout's identity.
0:00 Intro
0:24 The Discussion
1:30 Bethesda's Entrance & Expertise
4:33 Bethesda's Fallout Vision
7:01 New Players, New Game, New Era
10:03 Fan Reaction & Reviews
14:25 Did Bethesda Accomplish The Goals?
17:02 Final Thoughts
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Loving this channel bro. Fallout 3 broke my cherry and I'll always love it.
Fallout 3 will always be my Fallout. It was the first I played and introduced me to such a wonderful series. Is it perfect no, but it never had to be. I will always cherish the memories of listening to three dog and Herbert Daring Dashwood as I explored the capital wasteland.
Though Fallout 4 feels like Bethesda did not care to make something worthwile. It just felt like they just made a "Bethesda" game. While Fallout 3 seemed to be an exciting new path for the studio, especially seeing their enthiusmas during development
Same man my buddy played new Vegas boy 3 and I was so excited for 3 I Eben made my own 50s style newspapers because the cold war feeling is something I love. New Vegas is I suppose a better game if there compared side by side but I prefer 3. It could be because of nostalgia of coarse but it will always be my preference.
Same here, it was my first fallout and I’ll always cherish it. I understand it’s flaws and why it isn’t perfect, but fuck is it still fun and also creepy at times
This was the first Fallout I've ever played, and it was thanks to my grandma. She loved going to garage sales, and found a bunch of Xbox 360 stuff, it had a ton of games but the one that stuck out to me was "Fallout 3." Been an avid fan ever since, I have all the mainline games, and love the series to death
Same here man. I love putting on my armored vault 101 suit(with old painless) and just having fun exploring the capital wasteland. Also I had a blast just watching liberty prime vaporize everything in sight lol 😂. Man it reminds me of that scene in iron giant(when he loses control).
Newcomer: “Hello, I’m looking to get into the fallout series! I’ve heard Fallout 3 and New Vegas are really good games, but I can’t decide on which one to play first”
3 diehard fan: “Play Fallout 3 first, it’s my favorite one”
NV diehard fan: “No! Play New Vegas first, it’s MY favorite one!”
Reasonable fallout fan: “Tales of Two Wastelands. Problem solved”
Also reasonable fallout fan what are other games you like
That ignores console players though.
If they're going to play both first though they absolutely need to play 3 first. I played NV fully prior to 3 and going through 3 after that was an absolute slog
Just on a technical level, to go back to no iron sights, very few weapons and a much more linear story is going to be harder than starting with that and going to a more expanded experience.
@@ItsSpecialHands I never really cared about the lack of iron sights in vanilla FO3. I play with no crosshairs too (w/o VATS always on very hard), just gotta pay attention to where your gun is swaying. To me that’s one of the most stale arguments to why New Vegas is better, especially since the iron sights don’t even work properly on vanilla. The linear story does suck though, which is why I almost never play the story but I like both games pretty much equally. They both have pros and cons over one another. Also fuck console players, get a damn PC if you’re gonna play Fallout (I started off as a console player so I can say that, it’s a joke comment anyway)
@@sleepshouter5017 not having ADS in an FPS with loose RPG elements is a negative to most players, especially if they're coming from a title that has that function
I like fallout 3. Are there things I wish it did differently? Of course. There's also oddities like the entirety of little lamplight that would be solved it was set in the time period they decided fallout 76 was set in. But I still have fun going back to it.
The whole Fallout 3 was supposed to happen earlier theory doesn't work with F3's story. The Enclave's presence requires the game to be set a three decades after F2.
@@AlchemistOfNirnroot It can still fit. Maybe the original story didn't have the Enclave but they changed the story in order to add iconography. Also, it's not like Bethesda couldn't add in the Enclave earlier anyway. They literally did it in 76.
@@drlukas4242 That's complete speculation regarding the 'original story'.
No one really likes the idea that F2's Enclave aren't the first. At least F3's version let's it be untouched as much as possible.
@@AlchemistOfNirnroot the problem is that Bethesda didn't want a fallout that felt like it happened 200 years after the nukes but they wanted to bring in all the existing iconic parts of 1 and 2's world.
Really they should have done a full reboot, not called it fallout 3 and started fresh. That way they could have done whatever they wanted with mutants, enclave, BoS without having to tie it into games that they didn't really want to follow anyway
And by not follow I don't mean Bethesda hates fallout and fallout 2, but the endings of fallout talk of established cities with electricity and prosperity, fallout 2 outright shows cities with new buildings, electricity, doctors, schools etc.
I do regret not playing Fallout 3 when it first came out despite hearing about it. None of my friends had it though and we were playing Call of Duty WaW, GTA IV, and Pokemon Diamond & Pearl. So Fallout 3 flew over my head
First fallout I’ve played, thought mentats were some sort of chewing gum, got addicted to them, spent 200 or so 10mm ammo on ants, got stuck.
Pure fun.
sounds like you inadvertently roleplayed as a typical raider
@@TOBAPNW_ Somethig like that, 5 years later and I prolly spent about 2000 hours with these games.
It's the game that brought the franchise back from death. But it's also the game that changed the tone/style of the series and this will always upset people.
bring back from the dead? no it did not, need i remind you troika co founded by tim cain were interrested in aquiring the ip aswell? the problem is that shitesda had deeper pockets
@@Helperbot-2000 Where is that company now?
@@Hman333even still devoploment was happen on new fallout games even up to the buying, it's not like fallout was a dead series
@@calebbarnhouse496 Uhhh it was a dead series dude only games being worked on was Fallout Tactics and Fallout brotherhood of steel both of which are awful games with only parts of tactics still being canon arguably Fallout 3 started development right after Fallout 2 but was scrapped then later was thankfully sorta released in the form of Fallout New Vegas
@@Hman333 no it wasn't, they had multiple people bidding for the franchise, and multiple games being made, a franchise isn't dead until it's done, Wolfenstein is a dead series, because no one is working on it, and no one is gonna buy it to work on it, the only way Bethesda could have brought fallout back to life is if no one wanted to buy it, and no games were being made
Fallout 3 was my first Fallout, and I remember playing it with my friend when he wasn't allowed to have people over and standing by the back door with him the whole time we played so I could run out the second we heard his mom drive up
Even though I never grew up playing the original games, after all I've seen about them, I'd say fallout 3 was a breath of fresh air. It tells it's own story with few connections to the previous games. I've seen some people complain about super mutants being in DC and while we got an explanation for them, I can see them being there without it, the ending of fallout did say the Masters army scattered to the east and after 120 or so years, it shouldn't be a surprise they're here. Same with the Brotherhood and enclave, both factions would have some interests in the DC area and with the NCR expanding, they would both want to seek far away territory.
I also love how you can find schematics and build handmade weapons, for a post apocalyptic series this would be a no-brainer. The only problems I have with the game are the companions, most companions don't have much personality or individuality. In combat, they use generic dialog instead of anything unique like "Watch your head" etc. When it comes to the landscape, fallout 3 knocked it out of the park. It's barren, it's wide and there's plenty of hidden stashes and dark stories to tell.
That's pretty much what I have to say for the most part, the rpg aspects,while at bit lacking, were still there and still felt like it was an rpg.
I'm forgiving of the companions cause fallout 1's companions are even more lack luster. They have one dialog tree and then they enter your party. So it's cool with me that most of the companions in fallout 3 are just there. They all have stories tho even if they're pretty lack luster. Charon, Fawks, Butch and Clover all have pretty decently complex stories behind them that make them somewhat unique. Butch and Charon especially. Jericho is just cool cause he's a raider and clearly he's based off Ian in fallout 1 as a silent killer bad boy type. I haven't ever rolled with star paladin cross in all my years of playing fallout 3 so Idk if her story is good or not. Dogmeat and RL-3 are clearly not meant to really have a story behind them. So the only lack luster one is Jericho and tbh Clover is not too relatable but I do roll with her a decent bit cause she reminds me of my girlfriend. XD LOL Kidding.
@@lucifer2b666 yeah, the fallout 3 companions did have more dimension than the companions of the previous games. I just wish they could've had some more character development.
Fallout 3 is pure garbage you have no rite to have an opinion on Fallout all you know is the garbage Bethesda made
Honestly? I'd rather have Fallout alive and kicking with Bethesda rather than buried and forgotten by Interplay after one last attempt to make some money by canning Van Buren only to replace it with BoS2
I'm still playing fallout 3 and NV to this day on ps3. Love them both. Just got into fallout 4.
This was my first fallout game and nothing has come close to the experience of when I first left vault 101. Objectively new vegas is a better fallout game and I love it, but I had no knowledge of fallout when I first played 3, so I was filled with so much wonder and curiosity of the world
have you ever had a Jack and coke? That’s kinda what fallout 3 is, nice strong whiskey (OG fallout) mixed with a nice friendly helping of sweet mainstream Coca Cola. Some people love the experience the first time others coming back wanting more of that strong and rich OG fallout experience and many people can’t help but to mask it with causal gameplay elements of Bethesdas coke.
Nice one. Haha I've had jack and coffee. I spat it out, because I was a kid, but now grown up I drink for truth and the old days. Haha
Compare the text from fallout 1 to the moment you leave the vault in fallout 3
Many deride Bethesda but right there? They knocked it out of the park
No they didn't
@@elvangulley3210
Nice man. A simple "NUH UH" and that's it. Great argument
"To the west you see natural light, for the first time in your life you are looking at the outside world" -Fallout 1
Leaving vault 101 gives you the visual equivalent of this. Blinding light and the outside world coming into focus to a unfamiliar environment.
Typically interplay fan moment
No. The 7th generation consoles. The masses mascot dueling it out. Haha
@@ulester3092 "haha look at this guy who likes good games, no thanks, i like mommy bird shitesda's chewed up food"
Oblivion with guns of what sold me on fallout
It was my first FO and I was a console FPS and totally anti role playing. My brother lent me his copy(when he got New Vegas) and I was hooked.
Just the freedom to go any direction and to make choices.
Nice job with your content. You kept it short enough to prevent boredom while covering all the bases.
I remember picking up fo3 at gamestop for my now defunct PS3, good memories, I remember it was the first time i made my own character in a game, for my 10 year old brain, it was insane, nowadays i still replay it once a year or so, it’s good to go back to it when AAA games were made with a bit of love
Dude Fallout 3 is my first Fallout game and it’s my favorite . I played it for the first time in 2009(freshman in high school). In my opinion, the story is a little bit better than New Vegas. It has more of a family feeling too it. Kind of like F1,2,& 4. Also I’m cool with the sacrifice ending. It’s not perfect but I like the message of following your father’s footsteps. it makes me tear up a bit when the camera slowly moves toward the Family picture in the ending slides. Plus I was really happy when the lone wanderer survives in the DLC. I still give this game a 9.😁👍🏼
Yo careful bro, don't let creetosis hear you say that, or he's gonna make a 10 hour vidnon why your opinion is wrong 🤣
@@CopeAndSeeth HA! Good one! Yeah man I actually saw some of that. Not the entire video. I have never seen anyone so overcritical in my life. He plays like five seconds of a video and goes on a two hour rant. Also he lies in the video and takes things out of context. My first response was “are you kidding me with this? people take this guy seriously?” He’s worse than Hbomberguy(that guy does the same thing. He lies about F3, takes things out of context and leaves out a lot of info. He didn’t even play the DLC)
@@Steel-101 MATN's videos are much more reliable and honest about things. Generally speaking, I find that videos claiming something sucks are almost universally sucks far worse than videos that have an even or positive outlook on what they analyse.
One reason is that I find it more valid to ignore flaws for something you enjoy than to ignore the good parts in favour of bashing it, and you can easily do either for any game or media.
Is creetosis some NMA cultist? I don't know who he is other than the titles of some of the videos, but from what I've heard he gives the same impression as the NMA forums. Which is more toxic than an FEV vat.
For me its like Skyrim lmao. A lot of good and a lot of bad but as a “funnel” for the RPG genre it works beautifully. It has a lot of really cool stuff and ideas, and I wish they’d been a bit a more daring to try new things and had the time to finish fleshing out these cool and new concepts. Good game but lacking in some areas
That's a really good way to frame these games. They aren't designed for hardcore RPGers. These are games meant to get people invested in the genre in the first place. Dip your toes out of FPS mechanics and test out some RPG one.
@@kyleellis1825 no the first 3 elder scrolls were hard-core rpgs its only Todd Howard that dumbed down elder scrolls and fallout
@@elvangulley3210 And no one means the first few games in either series when they talk about it in general.
You say dumbing down, but 3 and 4 both completly outsold the prior games. More bought 3 than all the prior games and more bought 4 than all the prior games combined.
It became more accesable and turned into an into RPG series. The amount of people who played these games and move onto the more indepth RPG's, likely never would have tried without a way to test the waters.
@@kyleellis1825 more doesn't equal better especially when you have to dumb down the story lore and rpg elements to get the casuals the brainless fps players the anti rpg players all Bethesda did was kill a beloved franchise for a lot of people to draw in people that don't even like rpgs why ruin our game just make a new ip like they are doing with starfield fallout 3 skyrim fallout 4 are brainless shallow games with shit stories shit world building and next to no rpg elements with no complexity at all how can you enjoy that
@@elvangulley3210 You know what, you're a gatekeeping piece of shit and I hope every ingle franchise you enjoy never makes another game you like.
I adore fallout 3, I admit I didn't like it at first so it took a few years of playing linear games to eventually love it, but once I finally craved a game with more a little more depth but also something not too overwhelming, fallout 3 was the perfect game to try out (again) and it also helped keep me entertained during a long boring summer
The atmosphere for fallout 3 is still one of my favorite out of all the ones I played, the retro radio station and the eerie OST, mixed with the 1950s retro futurism backdrop set in a open world post apocalypse was something else at the time, not to mention the random encounters/side quest while trying to find rare schematics, weapons, armor etc was some of the most fun I had in gaming, like I vividly remember trying to find nuka cola quantum by simply exploring the capital wasteland only to find a small family who were secretly inbred cannibals because i thought they might have some quantum stashed away
Yes the older games are better, including NV but man fallout 3 doesn't get enough credit for the stuff it does right, people always repeat the same thing about the story being bad or the megaton quest, but hardly ever about the other great side quests that it has to offer
Something the NV lovers never take into account is that Bethesda had to tackle the challenge of transforming the game into a 3D game, something that killed many franchises. Sonic has had how many years now and still have never really nailed it. The developers of NV got all the benefit of Bethesda's work and were able to learn from their first draft, and yet they are given all the credit. I consider NV to just be a really large DLC to Fallout 3 because it doesn't have any significant changes to the game, only it's direction.
Well the thing is anytime you tell a hard-core NV fan, That “without fallout 3(Bethesda), NV wouldn’t exist”, they will get furious and say “they hate that argument”. And I’m thinking dude that argument is true. Without Bethesda new Vegas would not exist. 98% of the resources from Bethesda were carried over to make new Vegas. Or they would say that you’re a “shill for Bethesda”. Dude I’m not gonna defend every single thing Bethesda has done. Like for example: I’m not gonna defend what they did for the launch for 76. I mean i’m glad they’re fixing the game but I really wish it had a better start.
I mean, Bethesda DID release a video a few days ago saying that F:NV was supposed to be a DLC for Fallout 3 until Todd came in and trusted Obsidian to make a full game, because he had faith in them
@@bigswigg3631 that was an awesome decision 👍🏼.
@@Steel-101 Yeah, I agree with you. NV purists tend to forget, how nobody would probably not even remember the Fallout games if Bethesda didn't own it.
@@bigswigg3631 hahaha holy crap thats gonna make the NV fanboys shoot steam out their ears!
Thanks for the info dude 👍
I mean, i'm a fan of all the 3d entries. I am looking foward to playing the originals soon, but i'd say i'm a fan. I like the universe, asthtic and humor. I like every game, i don't know why some people think they can only like one?
The Bethesda fallouts suck and aren't real fallout in anyway they are bad Bethesda games with a half assed fallout skin
fallout fans being fallout fans, they hate you if you criticize new vegas or the first2 games, and they won't allow you to like any other games other than those three of course, because they don't know opinions exist
@@TheCapitalWanderer no we don't like your trash games and don't want them to be associated with fallout
because bethesda took one of the best game series, remover 80% of what made them great, completely dumbed down the rest, then skinned them and wore it around acting like theyre the same
Lets seee.
Gutted certain mechanics, made bad writing choices, didnt let us join the Enclave for an evil playthrough.and limited player choice
My first fallout game and I got it by accident I was actually trying to get call of duty from blockbuster but they had the wrong game in the case and the rest is history lol
Dude that is an amazing story! Man I miss Blockbuster so much! I think 🤔 the last one is in Alaska.
@@Steel-101 no that one closed the last one is in oregon
I wanted Socom US Navy Seals at a pawn shop and ended up with Socom 2 in the case. I enjoyed the hell out it, but never played the first game. Haha
I'm a casual fallout player. I actually had no idea what this series was until I found some random Xbox 360 at a garage sale for 40 bucks and the owner included fallout 3. After playing it I really fell in love with the 50s turned ruined style and since played new vegas and 4. I don't really play for the story as much as the abandoned 50s. The radio is such a vibe too.
The whole 50s thing has gotten tiresome. Older fallouts and new vegas included have 80s and 90s vibe too. I would like to see more of that going forward. Especially with guns and clothing. The desert eagle and p90 are canon in this universe yet Bethesda insists on using their god awful 50s mismatch designs for everything
I am currently trying to get all the achievements available for me. The level 30 ones where a real chore but getting 50 terminals hacked and 50 speech checks done...
I don't know if I can do it
The closest I ever came to the concepts in the original 2 games was playing Wasteland on the C-64.
then just play the originals, theyre great, i first played them both this year, fallout 2 is one of my 6 favourite games ever together with new vegas and fallout 1 isnt far below
Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game I played. Thats why I rather liked the Fallout 4 Creation Club's Wasteland Mercenaries. Yes the quest was rather lame, but I did like the ability to bring the various Mercenary Armors from Fallout 3 and New Vegas into FO4, and getting about 6 or 7 settlers with military experience for a settlement is nice.
seeing your footage of new vegas with green UI just feels super uncanny tbh
Fallout 3 had the best by far ambience and theme
After 76 3 and even 4 will always be close to fallouts as possible.
4 was good atom punk vibes which few games had at the time. It popularized the genre a bit.
3 walked so new vegas could run (then crash lol).
I liked 3 because of the everything BUT story and lore.
-atmosphere is an atmosphere so toxic and irradiated it's dark not sunny and green filters. Everywhere is abandoned or has hostiles everywhere. People and creatures doing the worst things to survive day to day. Unable to leave because of all the radiation that even the water will kill you. Which is what the main goal was to restart life via water. Water cycle rain takes rads to the sea washes away from buildings and eventually clean rain water to restart settlements and crops instead of trying to scavenge day to day.
-layout great as well. Large underground metro. Blocked off walls from debris of collapsed buildings. Basically the middle east. Rubble and sand everywhere but not many friendly people in sight.
-setting was well made. 200+ about what 10 20 years after bombs fell??? Everything is still in shambles but certain things have become fortified. Washington D.C. The epitome of American democracy and capitalism. Bombed to hell with everyone fighting no one working together and toxicity all around. All fighting for control over life aka water filter that can rebuild society but also have them on top.
-enemies also great. Psychopathic settlers some even larping as heroes and villains. Mutants raiders mutated creatures and fire ants all around. Several mercenary factions good and some raw and unfiltered who will do anything for the right price.
-visuals. Not the best but still fitting. Limited graphics and structures work to show how destroyed the city was.
-dlc again story aside great. Alien futuristic ideas from the 60-70's of what alien tech would look like as well as the aliens. Big steelworks factory city the pitt. Island thats mostly rural cept for a few areas mostly untouched by the toxic rads. Simulation of an Alaskan fight during the war. And a post game epilogue of sorts.
-weapons are fitting. From makeshift armors and weapons to more high end high tech higher grade weapons. Since D.C. is the capital they would've had tons of military supplies and especially weapons.
-perk lvl up system and mechanics were good. Tuned in NV it was really good in 3 with karma system and unlocked perks with requirements for level and special stats.
-customization was a bit rudementary but good. Customize character a bit. Customize the player home the main base at the tenpenny tower hotel or at megaton.
-quest system was also eh but fun. Several choices and outcomes. The main storyline was trash but still side quests were great earning different rewards from the quests.
My main gripe was 4 broke cannon alot and 76 just made a cheap cookie cutter MMO cash cow with a fallout skin. But 3 had something to the point that after 2 and 3 enclave were no more in new vegas and above.
Good video
I bought a copy but haven't played it. I DO know that some of the FO4 quests were rehashed from Skyrim. Is FO3 like that, too? Reflective of Oblivion quests?
I avoided Fallout 3 after playing 4 and New Vegas for a long time for some reason and I can say with confidence that was a mistake ! It's better than I thought it would be and then some easily one of my favorite games
I really do believe fallout 3 was meant to be a soft reboot but bethesda couldnt commit
Thank you for being balanced on this, compared to the love/hate videos that are way too common.
Being a casual Fallout fan sounds much better.
Tbh, I wish fallout 3 could be remade by obsidion, actually fixing a game that has potential instead of just redoing a game thats already fine.
No one hates Fallout quiet like Fallout fans
"Let's talk about the impact of Fallout 3" *FALLOUT 2 MUSIC PLAYS*
Expanding the the brand.
And remember there are 200 endings in Fallout 3 according to Todd Howard
and thats NOT an exaggeration
Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game I played in the series and was my favorite video as a teenager. The 3 and New Vegas actually got me into original Fallout games made by Interplay. Now currently Fallout New Vegas is my favorite Fallout game in series because its the middle ground for elements of Fallout 3 and the original Fallout games. The hardiest Fallout game I played is either Tactics or 2. My least favorite Fallout game is 4 for it was hard for me to get into game because it felt grindy, repetitive, and I didn't feel as engaged into the story.
I respect fallout 3 more after playing fallout 4
Personally I'm a fan of both Fallout 3 and FNV, 1 and 2, but my opinions started to shift negatively with Fallout 4 and 76. I did enjoy Fallout 4 on my first playthrough though.
Wait wait wait, protectrons weren't part of og fallout?
nope but i think centry bots were a thing and maybe eyebots
@@youssefblahcen3766 Late answer, but yeah, those were part of it. They looked different, with eyebots having more of that curvy, chromed 50's car design, and the centry bot was more of a mech.
My boy Creetosis!!! 0:33
Ah yes, the living nerd emoji lmfaooo
"Um akshually it's wrong to like fallout 3! 🤓"
Hbomberguy must be there too.
The Enclave radio makes this automatically my favorite fallout.
you sure have low standards, no wonder shitesda still makes money if people like you are their customers
@@Helperbot-2000 i don't want some crappy over the top 8 bit game.
@@generalwadehampton.2578 finally, the average shitesda fanboy in his natural habitat, spotting his -20 iq
@@Helperbot-2000 i never said i was a Bethesda fan. I said i was a fallout 3 fan. Fallout 3 is beautiful.
@@generalwadehampton.2578 in not a single definition of the word is fallout 3 beautiful
Much like with Fallout 4 you really can't call Fallout 3 a bad game, it is entertaining, people at bethesda know game design. However it is certainly not the direction the series should have been taken in. Fallout 3's impact carries all the way into 76 and more importantly it's impact can be felt on the community. We can't fight history or facts; for the vast majority of people their first impression of Fallout was either 3, 4 or New Vegas wich was also influenced by 3 (without mentioning the fact it was built using 3 as a framework). Wether for good or bad, FO3's impact is undeniably huge, maybe even bigger than that of the original games.
Maybe If we have to pick between getting more BoS style games from Interplay or getting Fallout 3/4/76. Bethesda has knocked it out of the part.
Remember NV was Obsidian's make up for failing the franchise already.
@@kyleellis1825 Interplay releasing mistakes of nature like BoS doesn't absolve Bethesda of anything. In a perfect world Fallout sequels would maintain the spirit and design choices of the original. We don't live in a perfect world and FNV was the closest we got.
If I have to choose between BOS styled dogshit and Fallout continuing down the road it's currently on I'd rather the series just died.
@@weall1208 It did die. NV is the beyond the grave 3rd game that only exists because of 3.
3/4/76 is all the reboot stuff and it should really have gone with a different title for the franchise, with Fallout as the brand. "War Never Changes" or something similar so it was clearly set in the same universe but not adhering to the same rules/tone.
Fallout 2 came out 25 years ago.....If Fallout 3 had not been first person, we would not be here 25 years later talking about the Fallout world because the top down games are just last century tech. Almost the whole gaming world has moved to first person action adventure play style and unless they really leaned into the turn based RPG side of the older games I don't think they would still be around today. Nobody is talking about the first two games today and there's a reason for that but you still see videos like this about 3 and NV all the time. It was the same thing for the Grand Theft Auto franchise, GTA3 was a massive turning point for the better.
i dont know rock you live under, i see people talk about the originals constantly. So wtf are you on.
You killed Caius Cosades?! You monster!!!
Love fallout 3 tho NV is my favorite in thr series. I really hate that fallout 3 can't run on new PCs without serious work then it still won't run right.
Fallout 3 was my first main entry Fallout game. I'd rented Brotherhood of Steel once and played it with a friend for a couple of days, but that was it. By my friends' near-unanimous agreement that Fallout was a great series, and that I'd totally like Fallout 3, I rented it and played it when it first came out. I absolutely hated it, and I made my complaints known without any sort of filter. The gameplay was still and janky, I absolutely detested VATS for a number of reasons, the writing was bland at best, the player-character wasn't actually the main character until like the last hour of the story, the overworld was bland, which I had to explain the difference between bland and barren to point out that yes, I actually do understand what they were going for, they just missed the mark, and of course, there was the ending. I accidentally beat the game while waiting for it to get good like everyone kept promising that it would. My character died, the credits rolled, and that was the end of the story.
I returned it, and never played it ever again.
Until I was told years later that the PC version is better because I can mod my way around my problems. So, I bought it on PC, and was shown a bunch of mods by a bunch of people that did absolutely nothing to solve my issues with the game. This was before Steam instituted its refund policy, so I was stuck with it. Similar thing happened with New Vegas too; the game came out, I was told it was better than FO3 in every way, I rented it, it absolutely sucked, and I never rented it ever again. I was however convinced years later to buy it for $4 on Steam, and that mods could totally help solve my problems with the game, but of course, mods did not solve my problems with the game. I currently have almost 1,200 hours in Fallout 4 on PC though.
Fallout 3 sucks, Fallout: New Vegas sucks, Fallout 4 should be renamed Build Your Own Fallout because of how many mods it needs to be fun, but at least it's a good framework, unlike the other two.
Damn this man hate wrong an entire essay on his traumatic past of playing a video game 🤣
In fallout 3's defense, we wouldn't have fallout new vegas without fallout 3
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fo3 would have been much better if we had a enclave ending i get we have broken steal but fo3 dlcs don't have ending slides but it was still a good game even if new vegas did the mane quest better
new vegas didnt "do the main quest better" it did EVERYTHING better
You know I think Bethesda was going to make another game instead of fallout 3 but they bought the fallout franchise so the use the same engine for this unknown game but use it for fallout
I personally think comparing classic fallout and bethesda fallout is like comparing apples to oranges. Theyre both good but in different ways. Classic fallout is able to flesh out the story and player choice more due to their simpler gameplay while the Bethesda games are able to create a more engaging gameplay loop but must limit the player choice and the srories scope due to how much more labor intensive and costly it is to flesh out a fully 3D world. Tldr: good story bad game vs bad story good game.
I loved FO3, I hated FO3, now I generally enjoy FO3 for what it is. It's not a bad game at all, and it's very enjoyable :)
I think it is unfortunate that Fallout 3 as the first east coast game decided to copy the west coast factions, rather than make up their own. East coast USA should have had access to much of the same pre-war tech as they had on the west coast, but had different cutting-edge research, but then after the bombs dropped they should have had their own people making their own factions with their own politics.
Next on the list - let's talk about оf Fallout NV's redemption. I dare you, Todd's simphatiser.
Fallout 3 was nice but personally i think NV had a better story AND they didn't even had much time to make it so I think that's what makes it so special. Bethesda has been failing at making Fallout games recently so I hope they ask Obsidian to help and make another West coast Fallout or maybe somewhere up North I live up North so I'd really like that.
Well, at very least Bethesda was respectful enough to go to the other side of the US and to largely leave the West coast lore alone.
The Best Fallout game Bethesda ever made. That's not saying much, but still...
Fallout 3 sadly lost most of the Outcast & Lyon's brotherhood story line. It was all cut leaving it in a sad limbo. hopefully if Bethesda ever remakes Fallout 3 they fix that. A remake would be nice.
Nice video. In my opinion 3 isn't a bad game, but (especially in plot and lore) it isn't as good as New Vegas or 1 and 2.
I forgot about Fallout 3 for nearly 10 years but replaying it recently it's a lot better than Fallout 4. There's a lot of interesting stuff in it and even a number of non combat quests that rely on your skills. Fallout 4 is a bit of a boring brainless shooter that felt minimum effort but I do feel like Bethesda cared a lot in their own way while making Fallout 3.
Fallout 4 was my first fallout game so I enjoy it. I then played fallout new Vegas and that is my favorite. I then tried playing fallout 3 and it was just so boring, and aesthetically dull.
i like fallout 3 exploration fnv for the rpg elements and 4 well i like it but those new fanboys who never played any other fallout think we shitin on it for no reason
@@youssefblahcen3766 I’ve realized just how empty it is after playing it so much. It isn’t because of the settlement system either, cut content shows there were meant to be more towns. But after looking at a map of all collectibles and bobble heads, you notice places like Natick with 5 marked locations offer nothing in terms of item collection. They just ‘exist’ with enemies and absolutely nothing else to do there. Then you have places like Salem which should be no-brainers in terms of quest ideas (Salem synth-trials!) and there’s just one dude and a dozen mirelurks. Bethesda built a world and put nothing in it. It feels more like a large mod project than a fully fleshed out game.
@@gumbyshrimp2606 ironic you omplain about 3's emptiness when NV actually has more empty world space, AND empty locations lmao
Also aesthetically dull? This man forgot half the Mojave has an orange color filter on it, with nothing but hostile enemies for miles 🤣
(Insert angry NV fanboy response below)
@@CopeAndSeeth I was talking about fallout 4
Should have been easy to pick up when I mentioned Natick and Salem
The graphics of fallout 3 on consoles at the time were good and realistic even after playing the almighty Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare. The animations were not good and the framerate on consoles should've been targeting 60fps. I enjoy the fallout 3 gamebyro engine. Haha
Yup Fallout 3 for me is nr1..
Fallout 3 either needs a remaster (bethesda likely refuses to fucking do it because "we only remaster skyrim, every other game can suck our balls")
Or wait for OpenMW to support fallout 3 which would take longer... 😮💨
My first fallout was 3 but it's actually my least favorite fallout not counting 76 because I refuse to buy that trash game. Fallout 2's my favorite. Then 1, NV, Tactics, 4, shelter, BOS and like I said 3 is last. I do like it but I'd much rather play literally any other fallout game or just play wasteland, ATOM RPG or Underrail instead.
"Fallout 3 walked so that New Vegas can run."
It's a new joke I tell at parties.
You are only the second person I have ever heard use adaption instead of adaptation
It's like I always say "don't eat yellow snow!". But the other thing I always say is "Fallout 3 is alright.." just alright. It's fun, it's somewhat immersive and has it's moments. It's not the best Fallout game but nor is it the worst - it's about in the middle. To say anything different beyond personal opinion is grossly inaccurate. What's the worst Fallout game? Probably 76 or Brotherhood of Steel. They're both far worse games. Fallout 3 is alright.
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It takes 3-5 years to make a video game or 4-8 years but now it'll take 6-10 years welcome to new age of gaming gamers.
Video games take soooo fucking long to make these days. 8 years from Gow 3 to 4, over a decade from gta 5 to 6, another decade from Skyrim to ES6, its a little ridiculous considering some of these companies have employees in the hundreds if not thousands across multiple departments….
Fallout 1 was my first Fallout game, and I think Fallout 3 is a good Fallout game. For a 3D conversion, it's a great game.
This video does a bad job at representing the majority opinion. It's more like it tries to dig up loud minority opinions and portray them as the majority.
The linearity of F3 is overstated. That only applies to the main quest. There are tons of other choices you can make. And the exact same is true for the first two games, so people adding that to the list of "it's not a true Fallout game" are hypocrites. There's a similar idea about the "lack" of choices in F4.
I'd disregard any opinions found on NMA. It's a toxic cesspit that doesn't deserve having their opinions count as any kind of significant part of the fanbase. They are not and have never been representative of the actual fans of the franchise, and the only thing they represent in any capacity is the worst aspect of gamers.
people hate on fallout 3 and praise NV but f3 set up the dunk on it by setting up the lore to a new and bigger audience
and hitlers ww2 laid the groundworf to advanced technology development, but we dont thank him for computers do we? well you might, but i sure dont
Nah. How about new vegas?
overrated and kinda bad without dlcs
@@TheBenjiNebby It has 4 DLCs
@@TheBenjiNebby so ur saying fallout 3 and 4 are bad since nv is better than em
@@youssefblahcen3766 no? Im saying new vegas is overrated and bad without dlcs. Literally the only reason people like it are because of its dlcs
@@TheBenjiNebby well not completely true. New Vegas is great without the DLC’s but I agree it really is overrated. It’s not the perfect fallout RPG. I say that because it has its own set of flaws in the story and the crazy bugs. also I love the DLC’s but sometimes the NV DLC’s get a little bit repetitive and boring in certain parts.
i feel like fo3 should have either been a continuation of the world that prior games built or a radically different, commited take on rebuilding the whole concept without mindlessly recycling whatever they thought to be iconic (aka brotherhood, mutants, caps, deathclaws, enclave, yadda yadda yadda). failure to decide on either resulted on this mediocre slurry of stolen aesthetics that aren't honored any deeper than surface level and dogshit writing that falls apart after scrutinizing it for half a minute.
Fallout 3 is the worst thing to happen to Fallout. It completely ruined the franchise and brought in a bunch of new people that don't know or understand fallout but want to tell you what a good fallout is.
Cretosis and his 8 hour long "uhmm ackshually fallout 3 isn't good" video. Oof.
Fallout 3 still lives rent-free in their heads even though it's over 15 years old sad
Fallout 3's impact is new vegas. Without 3 there is no new vegas
no, without Black Isle going bankrupt we would have gotten Fallout: van Buren which still would have been Fallout 3 and then New Vegas.
You're right I was just trying to say something nice about Bethesda for once.
Yea bro lemme just sit down for 10 hours to listen to "why fallout 3 is/isnt as good as you think"
Hey leave creetosis alone, he doesn't have anything else in his life to strive for 🤣
people who think fallout NV is the best 🤡
It made every single rpg in industry garbage, thats its influence
it broke my jawbone, thats why its the worst fallout game
Fallout 3 wasn't perfect like New Vegas, but it was a great game. Fallout 4 fucking sucked.
Lmao new vegas is no where near perfect
Fallout 3 is the best of the new Fallouts.
Complete game changer... Every Fallout until then was a Dead End on a woefully outdated style of game.