ROAMS01E07 Suzuki Jimny VS Toyota Fortuner at Helderberg Offroad & 4x4 (2019)
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- I decided to take the Suzuki Jimny on an offroad trail while in Somerset West. The vineyards of the wine route would be our playground for the morning as I met up with Simon & Minouw from Rolbos Overland, and headed to the Helderberg Estate for some 4x4ing! Putting their Toyota Fortuner to the Test against the Jimny!
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This car will introduce 4x4ing and offroading to a whole new generation. Can't wait for this to be my first car in a year or two!
This gen Jimny will become a cult classic, its already guaranteed
The little champ turns out to be a real Sampson in disguise. This minimalistic vehicle is representative of Suzukis traditional line up of high quality reliable and very durable vehicles .
The Jimny is incredible, so much tech for so little money. Well done Suzuki!
Dem new Jimny's are siiiiick. Gotta get me one of dem. I live in Japan too.
awesome vid as always! Was impressive to see the slo more suspension and grip comparison between the two cars as well.
Great video's! I found your channel because I'm obsessed with the new Jimmy. Keep doing what you do 👍
Same here
Thanks guys! I’m going to try my best to feed everyone’s Jimny obsession! 😁😁
"obsesed", can't even spell it right. It's Suzuki Jimny
@@heathcliffhappy2582 Auto-correction you idiot. The world is bigger than USA
Impressive harnessing of the Jimmy's assets, love the explanation of the preparation of the vehicle, and then seeing first hand the benefits of same, professional analysis of the results of the mission. I dread to think how your series is going to effect the lead time on delivery of these machines LOL. God Bless.
Thanks Steve! I’m trying to show the features with a bit more depth than other channels, I’m glad you appreciate it!
Order one and due April. Can't wait.
I own a 2009 petrol 2.7 Fortuner and I'll be the first to admit it's not perfect. But for the price you pay and the all round capability you get it just cannot be beaten. 7 seats, good off roading ability, decent cargo space, livable as a daily driver, tough and reliable engine....the list goes on. Kudos to the Jimny but if I could have only one the Fortuner wud be it
Great video, would love to see more off roading video with the Jimny!
Jimny is so cute! So little yet so powerful
They’re gonna sell lots of jimnies. I have a first generation Rav4 and very happy. But the jimny may be my next one, second hand.
in germany waiting time is already a year... :-(
A Great 4WD, You need to live near were you use it. Its a terrible car for touring/distance driving
Really great video and editing again, keep it up. SA has some awesome places to drive these.
Thanks man! I appreciate the kind words!
This more of educational than just a review. After many long times, you tube has suggested me with good materials. Anyway keep up the good work materials. Cheers.
Thanks, I hope there is something for people to learn! 😁
Yes to the little Jimny showing the bigger boys how it's done. such a great little car and your videos do it so much justice
George Harding it definitely does! Thanks mate!
I really love your videos. Keep up the good work. Your expeditions are great
Hi from Costa Rica where Jimnyies have a great following. Unfortunately the new one has already a waiting list until Dec. It's a shame, it's an awesome 4x4 for our terrain.
Looks like the Jimny was a hot knife through butter. Love the slo mo shots. It shows the mechanics of the suspension and differential at work. Good work !
Its really awesome seeing that LSD at work! Also just the way those axles move so effortlessly over the terrain is amazing! :D
Your best off roading video up to now. Great.... ☺️
Thanks Peter! I think the next one might improve on it even more, because I at least had my girlfriend there to help me film. This one I had to do it all Solo! It was a lot of running around and setting up cameras 😂
@@RoamOverlanding I know exactly what you are talking about. So often on workshops or photo-shoots I tell myself it would be cool to have some BTS or B-roll footage, but without a second shooter I do not really manage to concentrate on the 'real job' and skip the cool/funny videos .... :-)
Excellent video! Love your channel!
Jimney brought me here all the way from Minneapolis. Nice 👍🏼
Welcome Tony! Glad to have you!
Great video! Thank you!
Reducing tyre pressure will not prevent your tyres from being punctured. It's works the other way. When we go in to the deep jungle we always use high tyre pressure to prevent tyre damage. It's the trade-off we pay for safe return :). It will make the offroading harder but safe for the tyres + tyres are very expensive in our country:)
Very interesting! I have also heard of using hyper inflation to prevent punctures in certain situations too, especially in certain rocky terrains. I know its a bit of a contravertial topic in some places! But thank you for the perspective.
I’m curious about tyre pressures for slick mud in rainforests. Would it be beneficial to have higher pressures to cut through the top layer or lower pressures for increased surface area?
And I’m assuming you run the skinniest tyres available to minimise puncture risk?
Ian Parsons we don’t have too many roads like that around here. But in general in South Africa we use lower pressures, I’d be interested to hear his opinions on it, as he probably has a lot more experience of forest roads
Lowering pressure causes the tyre to conform over rocks when stepping up etc. it sure as hell does NOT give any resistance to punctures. Quite the opposite. Youre effectively softening your sidewall and the bulging outwards exposes it to staking.
In mud i imagine a high pressure tyre works to cut down to more solid ground underneath. WRC teams have been using skinny tyres at high pressure for many years in heavy mud and snow conditions for that reason.
I have to stop watching Jimny videos because now I want one!
Really sweet Jimny mod! Great little offroader! Subbed ;)
Woodland Wanderer 👏🏻👏🏻 great to have you on board!
Such an awesome video man keep it up. And such an awesome car.
Thanks man! Will do!
Thanks for sharing your vids. I just got my SZ5 here in Scotland yesterday and loving it so far. It appears there's going to be a lot of Brits waiting a long time for one! Cheers Andrew
Congrats! And enjoy your beast! If you want to see all the things in doing with my Jimny, you can also head to my Instagram and follow me there for some cool pics
Beautiful places and great wines!!!.
Serg Orton indeed! We always love a good wine tasting when we get the chance!
4:27 look at how chuffed you are 😂 awesome stuff
Love me some Stellenbosch! That boerewors looked great and the Jimny is working out really well, much more capable than you'd expect if you didn't have any Suzuki experience.
Keep it up!
It keeps impressing me more and more! The Grabouw 4x4 trail I did this week was way more challenging than Helderberg, but the mountain goat just did its thing!
What size are you tyres and did you make use of spacers please let me know
Great video, informative, casual. Looks like the Jimny will be launched in India sometime this year or next. I have a Fortuner so this is very interesting if SImon keeps coming in!
I really hope to team up with Rolbos again soon!
The Baby Beast in action....super :D
Nice to see it working great on some tough terrain
Went to see my dealership today to have look at it .fell i love with its interior
Theres a 6 month waiting list for it in uk, but by june july i should hopefully have one
Robert Crofts Hi Robert, which dealer are you using? I ordered mine before Christmas from Suzuki in Colchester and don’t expect to see my SZ5 before September. I did enquire with a dealer in Manchester and London and they both said delivery around December 2019 😕
@@admiralgant5271mine was in Leicester
These are just amazing little machines. I had a Samurai and a Tracker, would love to own this. I was very pleased with the ground clearance and good traction with the LSD braking system. Well done mate!
Slo mo was a nice touch looks like you had a fun day
It was good fun! I also did a trail the other day, and that one blew my mind!!
Lovely setting! Have to go back, was 8 when i was in ZA last :(
RidingWithBen well I’ll keep making videos for you to reminisce! 😁
nice vid dude~
Really nice videos. Hi from Nicargua, Central America.
Thanks Marcos!
Nice trip & video Adrian. This video just gave us a new breakfast spot idea, thanks! We said that from this year we should do a 'camp type breakfast' somewhere in the outdoors or with an ocean view at least once a month. We will have to fast forward past lock down now hey. ;)
It’s a great little Sunday/Saturday morning trail!
I really like your videos roam overlanding they are very interesting and Jimny is the car I want to buy, but in my opinion you should try to make longer videos❤️
Thanks for the good comments! The videos will get longer and longer as time goes by :) it takes a lot of work to make a high quality video that’s 15min long! You’re more than welcome to help speed up the process by going to my patreon and supporting the channel! 😊
Keep up the good work 😁@@RoamOverlanding
Great timeee
do u recommend this jeep? any negative feedback?
Yet another great video!
I was wondering....would the automatic be better/easier on the clutch for those harder obstacles?
Automatic is generally better for off-roading because it’s a smoother experience, but you need to learn to use left foot braking for the optimal performance with an automatic, I just prefer the control of a manual transmission
@@RoamOverlanding left foot breaking is my favourite.
Nice filmwork. I had a gen3 jimny and I can see myself getting a gen4, it looks awesome. Are wet running standard suspension or has it been modified?
Its currently running on stock; but it will be modified soon.
PLEASE bring these back to N America!!!!!!!! I LOVE the Jimny.
Can't wait for the Jimny ute to come out.
*sigh* just want the Jimny in the USA.
I KNOW SO FRUSTRATING!!!! I'm so bummed guys :( I think they would sell well here!
Jeremy O'Leary same. It’s a bummer we can’t buy it here
Awesome. The keychain lol
What a rookie xD
Hi again.
Good information on tyre pressure. However I would be removing gear from the roof to reduce the chance of roll over. Removing gear from inside the vehicle stops you getting injuries when the vehicle rolls.
Keep up the good work.
Rob Paterson I definitely agree with you there, I do also need to take pretty pictures though 🤓 I made sure the fuel tanks were empty 👌🏻
love the local channel
Ill be here, pushing out more videos of our beautiful country.
Hi guys, the Fortuner Diff lock was not locking. Check at 2.25 the rear wheel compressed is not turning, if it was locked is should be turning under flex.
Have Simon check that out, car must be in Low range and the diff lock light must be solid. If it’s flashing it’s not engaging.
If you guys are up in JHB please give me a shout. We should go do a trail or two together.
Lekker video
Satisfying videos!
see the tires mounted on each car..
that makes the difference
Hi there! Just ordered my jimny today! 💪 what kind of fuel consumption are you getting with the slightly bigger tyres? And have you noticed the loss in power?
Hey Calvin! The BFG’s reduced the fuel consumption by quite abit, I’m getting 12.7km/L on the highway at the moment. And about 10.6km/L around town
@@RoamOverlanding thanks man!
Out of curiosity, have you notice any change in the fuel consumption since you changed the tires ? If I was to build up a jimmy I’ll do it exactly like yours, like minded. Great videos. Lakkar my Bruu
A big change from doing the tyres and also a change from doing the roofrack! So expect a thirsty beast if you want to do it exactly the same! 😂🤓
Roam Overlanding. My experience is that one’s fuel consumption will increase significantly once we move from road biased tyres to AT& MT tyres. But it does make our trucks look more macho💪😎
Aslam Salie definitely!
Add a cold air intake and you can get a bit more power and fuel millage.
Rick Dunbar CAI on a 4wd? No.
Is it possible to make a video about the LED headlight in the dark? :)
I have a Roam Talks video where I show you the performance of the headlights, it should be called lights and factory extras or something like that 👌🏻
God damnit Suzuki come back to Canada, and bring the Jimny with you!
Great video! Do you have any shots or photos comparing the size of the Jimny to Fortuner next to each other?
Unfortunately not! We didn’t have much time for that :( but next time we will 👍🏻👍🏻
Show de bola este percurso com o jynmi👏👏👏👏
Cool video
Just have one question though: What about the 'Boomslang' ?
Was waiting the entire time for that to pop up
:-)
If I can comment (in my limited experience - I had a 1st gen 'proper 4x4' Kia Sportage that I took up Helderberg 4x4 a couple of times) - the biggest advantage of having a smaller 4x4 (apart from the obvious being lighter and really climbing well) is that I found the narrower track of the vehicle giving you quite an advantage when it comes to some of the obstacles. The bigger 4x4's all track basically the same width and therefor keep on digging the 'cross-axle ditches and ruts' deeper as they kick their way through it.
On the Sportage I chose the shallower of the two tracks for the one side's wheels to go into and then the other would track right next to the deeper rut, causing the 'cross axle flex' to not even be close to what the bigger guys had to contend with.
Also on some of these obstacles a bigger vehicle would fill the width of the road completely, giving no 'wiggle room' for the driver.
On the narrower vehicle you can choose a line that the bigger ones won't be able to.
I always loved the Jimny and I think the new one is an awesome upgrade to the previous.
I also love the fact that Suzuki don't think that they should 'skimp' on 4x4 features just because the vehicle is small.
There really isn't any other small (proper) 4x4 vehicles available in the market and the Jimny fills that gap really well - from the SJ410 all the way through to the latest one.
Wihan Stemmet hey Wihan, has never been there before and I think we ended up skipping it by mistake! 😂 dismal failure!
@@RoamOverlanding- no worries. It sounds like you are planning on getting back there at some point anyway
Sometimes (especially if you are on a schedule) one must also be sensible.
:-)
Like Your video's and Tour car, what tires have you mounted. Grtz. Henkjan
It has BFGoodrich KO2 215/75/15
this jimny is even better than the older models awesome job at suzuki for making them
BUT
that toyota tho...
First time I see the title I think this was unfair to walk with Fortuner.
But I finally love SUZUKI JIMNY so much. It is the brave one.
In the past, I used SUZUKI CARIBIAN 1996 for 15 years.
i always want the jimny fighting unfair fights, that's what makes it so lovable
Parabéns pelo carrão , logo ele vem para o Brasil e compro o meu , mano coloca os estribos laterais nele e um reboque com cartel dianteiro
The fortuner on that obstacle just proves why I'm not the biggest fan of traction control...they work until they don't...I mean for people who barely go through such obstacles, by all means traction control is more than sufficient, but for me a 4x4 enthusiast, getting stuck like this would bruise my ego so bad, especially knowing that their are after market diff locks that can prevent all that...; anyway goes to show how the JIMNEY's weight and overall silhouette make even the toughest obstacles possible even with just factory traction control. :)
Well that fortuner was equipped with a rear locking diff, I think it’s more a situation of not having enough wheel travel to get enough traction for the weight. But I get what you’re saying, that’s why I sold my Amarok and moved to a proper off-roader.
Does that model of fortuner have traction control?
Suzuki's esp is the best. Suzuki are the best SUVs
@@RoamOverlanding An Amarok is also a proper off-roader though? The Jimny is a great off roader, but it only has a tiny petrol engine , that needs to be revved. The 2.0 manual Amarok has the lowest low- range ratio out of all the local bakkies, and it has a good traction control system and a locking rear diff. I would bet that an Amarok will go further than a Jimny on many courses. We completed Helderberg in our Series III Land Rover and Colt Rodeo without any problems.
Erick Lochner the Amarok was a great vehicle; but the wheel travel and clearance were quite bad issues; I have yet to find anything that the Jimny hasn’t been able to do. I’m sure I will find something soon though as I try tackle harder stuff as I get more confident with the vehicle
Is that an ARB deflator or just a gauge? And that fortuner doesn’t look like it has diff lock.. or it’s not working at all.
Just a Gauge, the tyres deflate pretty quickly already because they’re so small. I’m even thinking of swapping out my 160L/Min compressor for something smaller and more compact. Because it inflated my tyres in like under a minute 😂
Can you please tell us what the Jimny's low range gear ratio is. Very well presented videos. Thank you.
I believe it is on the UK site under specifications and stuff they have the gear ratios of both gear boxes and for low and hi
Hallo one question please, how many liters have the jerry cans on the roof?
Regards from Berlin
They can hold 20L each 👍🏻
Nice one, how do you like the KO2s?
They work great! 😁
The driver is very much important off road.
I agree with 100% I have a bit more 4x4ing experience than Simon, so picking the right lines comes a bit easier to me.
I like the music you used for your video and of corse the Jimny.
Could you give me the songs titles ?
You can find them on artlist.io/Marcus-215951 its where I get all my music for my videos. I use a lot of songs by Ian Post and NIck Poss
Absolutely LOVE the new Jimny look, and it's almost PERFECT for what I want in a car, enough for me to want one.
Sadly it is a brand new model and I don't have the money or interest to spend money on a brand new car. Will go for a Hyundai Tucson or Dacia Duster in the close future, and maybe some years down the line I can snag myself a used Jimny 19 for myself!
It is quite pricey, we already have some demo units available in South Africa so it’s already possible to get a good discount on some of them 🤓
What size tyres are you running here? And is it still running factory suspension?
It’s running 215/75/15 on stock suspension 🤓
That Stove bro , love it and is there a link where I can buy these
O.F.S Canvas Shade Solutions so it’s called a Skottle, where are based? In America you can get them from Tembotusk and in South Africa it’s Cadac
Drove past you on Sir Lowry's Pass on Saturday?
Very possible! We were making our way to the Swartberg on Saturday! :)
Didn’t seem like the Tuna was running good tires...? That Jimny looks like loads of fun!
When did Bubbles start doing 4x4 videos?
Limited slip front AND rear?!
Omfg....this thing gets better and better!
So a correction on my part, it uses a traction control system that simulates a limited slip diff
Does that suzuki have a lift? Factory ground clearance of 8.6'' seems really low.
It has no lift kit, however the tyres raise the vehicle by 0.3” just remember that that is the ground clearance on the Diff, and the vehicle has solid axles front and back, so correct positioning of your tyres can raise that ground clearance immensely in comparison to a Independent suspension vehicle. The vehicle also has really good break over and clearance angles, again it just helps you not need that much clearance. It’s an interesting combination of things, but it works really well.
Great rig ! How much fuel does it use fully loaded with roof racks ?
10Km/L or 28MPG(Imperial) or 23.5MPG (US)
Thank you and Subscribed ! Do you think this vehicle needs a rear locker or do you find the standard TC adequate ? I plan to do similar trails perfects a little more hardcore...
The factory TC is very good, and I’ve yet to find a situation that it hasn’t been enough. So I’ll let you know when that happens! 😂 but you might wait a while!
what did you mean when you were talking about the LSD, diff locks and breaks being applied lifting the car. LSD and diff locks have nothing to do with breaks. or do you mean traction control?
It’s a traction control system
@@RoamOverlanding have you had it in soft sand yet like a beach or sand dunes type sand because from what I've experienced with traction control in sand is it makes the car un drivable unless you disable it because all your wheels are constantly spinning so the car applies the brakes to every wheel on and off none stop
I have had some experience in mud and sand; it definitely lets the wheels spin; so far it’s been a beast. But you can also deactivate the traction control if you want
What's it like on the highway and graded gravel?
It’s good. It’s even better in offroad than on the highway 😂
The beauty about this vehicle is that u can go off road without fear of scratching it or denting it because u are paying few money upfront.
Excellent video. What tyres are you using on the jimney. 👍
They are the BFG KO2 in a 215/75/15
Many thanks. 👍
I wounder what would happen if you completely disable the TC system that makes the wheels brake sometimes when trying to climb.
GM V8 I’m actually not sure if you can disable it, but it would be interesting to find out.
@@RoamOverlanding Its usually the ABS fuse. But it could be a different fuse.
I would not want to play around with that. It’s a fantastic piece of technology and works incredibly well.
OMG there are no axial twisters there. Let’s go to Moab UT. That’s a Sunday drive you can to in two wheel drive.
Id love to take you up on your offer man, just the atlantic ocean between us!
How did the 2019 Jimny do on Boomslag? My 2009 model needed more clearance..
Hey Christiaan, we didnt end up doing the 2 4x4x4 obstacles unfortunately.. I still had a lot of km's ahead of me on my journey so I didnt want to damage my vehicle (even though I didnt even get to see the obstacles) and then the Rolbos team were nervous about attempting them too. I'd like to come back this year and give them a go though. I didnt get to do the trail proper justice! But the Grabouw trail, really put the clearance to the test!
@@RoamOverlanding Thank you for the info! Will be trying it when I am in Stellies with some upgrades. Great page you have!!
Christiaan Edeling thanks man! Go give it a bash
Nice video✊👍
How does the load on the roof affect the dynamic of the vehicle? What kind of roof loading would you consider as safe for travelling unsealed roads, not heavy offroading?
That will depend on you, you will immediately feel the vehicle becomes less agile and too heavy. While cornering and brakingthe vehicle will lean more too.. you will need to test what you’re comfortable with, as your speeds will certainly have to decrease if you load up the roof.
@@RoamOverlanding Thanks for your replay. What is the approx weight you carry on your roof for the trip?
I would stay perhaps including the roofrack we might be sitting at about 60-70KGs, I only really feel it when the fuel tanks are full. So anything up to 30/40Kg doesn’t feel bad at all.
Джимик первый.крутая машина! 5 лет езжу и радуюсь. В новом кузове обязательно куплю.
One Bar - a bit low?
The recommended normal driving pressures are 1.8 Bar and 2.0 Bar, so I've found great performance and grip with 1 Bar :)
What size BFGs are you using on the Suzi
Hey Bob, I have a set of 215/75/15 on there at the moment
Thanks for that 👍
Roam Overlanding without a lift kit or you need it . Did you recommend 235/75/r15 on stock shocks or not
Did you use Low-Lock in the fortuner? I have one and i can pass all of that with no tire slipping
The fortunes was locked, you just can see how steep the hill really was from where the camera was. I actually struggled to even walk down the hill.
Watch at 2.25 the diff lock is not engaged on the Fortuner.
I don’t know should I opt for Automatic, also will it have less power?
Also is Suzuki making a diesel version ?
No diesels that anyone knows about. And auto will generally feel less powerful. If you love driving autos and are used to the feeling of an old auto gearbox then you won’t mind the auto and you only get the benefits. Otherwise, just stick with the manual and use the extra money to modify your car! 😁😁
Thanks champ 👍
@@RoamOverlanding They need to fit the Vitara 1.4 turbo petrol engine in this.
@@mikehurley5052 Im almost wondering how difficult it would be to retrofit a turbo on this thing :P It would help a lot at top speed
what about jimmny vd subaru?
whats the size of jimny tire? seems yours upgraded from standard size
Hey Vincent! They are marginally bigger. Stock is 195/80/15 and mine are 215/75/15
thanks bro! keep up the goodwork
aww, wanted to see how you do boomslang
I’ll come back to do it in Jan 😂