@@gnomechild3248 I started abusing opioids in the first place because my loving wife left 😢 and only got on suboxone treatment now because the pills were too expensive to kill the pain with every day but the wds were too harsh to stop cold turkey even after just a month on them. Now I'm like the op, jasonbarnes4245. So I would say yes, PLEASE appreciate the shit out of what you have as long as you have her.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel is definitely worth it getting of subs i thank god every day I’m of this drug I was better off withdrawing from perks than suboxon but oh well thank god for everything
Dude congrats that's amazing!! It's hard. I opeerate a recovery house for guys like you and I get to see these miracles all the time. It gets me pumped seeing people take that step.
Heck yeah man, congrats. At some point I will do the same. There is just that bad few days I get it. But the anxiety and the mental shit that occurs is the tough stuff to deal with. A friend of mine who passed away from pancreatitis, he was a really bad drinker too many times in his life as well as addicted to pills and at one time The big H. His body was eventually done. But he always said I can deal with the sickness that isn’t the problem, the mental issues anxiety and depression were the worst. And I didn’t think anxiety can be that bad. But when you can’t find any enjoyment in anything, pace room to room. And only feel comfortable in bed. It’s really bad, as well as energy level is depleted completely. No drive, it’s not as easy as just saying get up and do it. Something is wrong. And I hate that. Between the anxiety and it’s also probably Low T mixed in with it. Having no drive is a problem in Itself. It’s awful when at one point you felt as though you had purpose. And now you feel like a complete waste of life with no purpose. I could be just built differently. As I have other mental issues being born with brain damage, and Spastic CP. yeah lol I’m a mess 😂
I got off Subutex two Halloweens ago 🎃👻. I was on it for five years straight. It was the hardest thing I've ever done. Literally, even now I see an improvement each month that passes... stay strong. Ween down with an honest doctor and look forward not backward. Peace 🕊️
You're so right. In my experience, self awareness is the key to saying sober. Im on a taper im doing myself, because if i leave it up to my doctor, she will not allow me to fully come off. They dont believe in life without something being medicated. I'm down to 2 mg from just a couple years ago taking 3 a day which was making me extremely sick because it got to be way too much. The whole time my doctor knowing thats what was making me sick. I felt better being off this and regret ever going back to it. I want to be free from addiction completely. Not only is this a problem but its way over prescribed and the doses I've been on as well as ive seen others is ridiculous.
How much do you recommend? Is it difficult to taper down? I tapered down off 50 mg of methadone and was able to do it. Will subs be worse? I'm back on the poppy tea and would like to get on subs to ween down. Is that possible?
The med assistance helps.. But it's so strong that you can never get off it.. I'm finally off the suboxone after 10 and a half years.. But I've been through hell to get off it.. Just to be really OK when I get my day in court to get my kids back..months of suffering but I am finally OK..
You're a rare doctor...alot of docs and NPs...don't encourage ...really yank the patients Chain to titrate down. It's such a lonely lonely feeling. We should have Bupenorphine groups. This is a wide open topic. Love it. Keep up good work. I wish my doctor of 8 years was on here doing videos. Some of us want to come off suboxone but feel hopeless. I wish my doctor and NP had a Pearl Jam poster in the office lol. You're too cool. Thanks man
In my experience I see the problems arise when people realize that the medication and it’s process isn’t a quick fix. That’s always when Ive seen the conversations that the medicine is worse than the drug… followed by their conspiracy of choice. This is only my anecdotal experience, but its what I see in almost every case.
Im glad I jumped off Suboxone cold turkey 2 months ago. Doctors are going to tell you it can't be done but trust me it can. It may not be easy but if you have a strong will to want to be completely clean you'll go through with it.
Very powerful video! Thank you doc ( and my brother in Christ ) Suboxone has definitely helped me in many ways and I’m grateful for that. However the devil messes with me as a Christian and as I read Gods word and I see “sorcery” aka pharmakeia and when I really think about this the devil creeps in and makes me doubt my salvation in Christ. I ultimately know/feel that Gods best is for me to be free from everything and I’m trying but if I constantly think only about getting off of it, then it makes it worse on me. Anyways thank you brother for what you do, you are such a blessing and help.
@@nickb2172 It’s a struggle that I “think” I will deal with forever. I’m 42 and started using when I was only 13/14 years old and been that way almost every since. Suboxone is a big pain in my butt BUT it’s also a blessing to me. It has helped me in more ways than I care to probably admit. I doubt many days whether or not it’s Gods best for me. However I’m curious at times if that’s just the devil lying to me and getting me to beat myself up about it. I’m not saying God wants me on it but I will say there are times where I feel God brought it to me to help get me away from IV drugs etc. I was BAD BAD ( like shouldn’t even be alive, but by Gods grace and goodness I’m still here ) I will say this brother - I’m not saying it’s good or bad - I’ve thought long and hard about it as I’m sure you have. But you’ll drive yourself crazy man and it’s not worth it and The Lord doesn’t want that either. Repent of our sins before the Lord and just put it all in His hands and ask Him to lead/guide us is all we can do.
I've been on 16 mgs a day for 6 years now. Suboxone definitely saved my life! I shot heroin for ten years, lost a lot of friends, two of my girlfriends. F**k that drug. Ill never look back
I've been off suboxone for like a week. I don't see the end of this RLS and anxiety and absolutely no energy. I'm starting a new job in 5 days and I don't even know if I'm going to have to energy to go.
Ruined my intestinal and then started causing urinary retention, took me forever to figure out the bladder issue was subs as well.. i was forced to get off it was destroying my organs and not sleeping every other night at bc my bladder was so painful
I’ve been having varying similar issues. Don’t know the cause but out of nowhere my colon and intestinal and bladder have been really hurting. Things haven’t felt right, seeing doctors about it the past few months trying to sort it all out. Were you able to get off subs, if so, how is your stomach etc now?
Rock bottom savior that's me 100%. Suboxone is my savior and I have a hard time imagining life without it...but I'm trying to wean down one little piece at a time.
Been on it 20yrs now and don’t plan on coming off,it was easy to die years ago when I was still getting high but now with the Fentanyl out it’s pretty much a guarantee that your next relapse will be your last meaning you will die and I will not take that chance just to say I came off Subs
Ive tried the both.and its day and night.on the buepren there is almost impossible to treat my ptsd or grow as a human being...when i was 109% sober there was a force..life force..witch now is abstent..no ups..no downs..just flat.. Rock bottom for me is when i let go off the cotroll and surender from the drugs..and the road there is a hellava road😅
@@aleksandergjengst782 yeap, too much. You would feel the same with 10% of that... You can get down to 4mg fast, with no problems. Just make a plan and consult your doctor, 32mg would kill any emotion to elefant...
Cycle of relapse is all too known in SUD.... Behaviour needs to be changed to assist in recovery techniques... The draw Opiates have is so strong when you are stuck in negative behaviour or under emotional distress etc etc to change and live well is a personal choice
@@FraterOculuswow!!😮 seriously? You got off methadone easily? I don’t think I’ve ever seen that- and I’ve been researching this subject like crazy lately! Lucky lucky man! 🍀 🙏
@@aritina8379 it just takes time and patience, what nobody has. Use the liquid, go down 2 mg every couple of weeks til you get to like, 30 mg, then go down 1 mg every couple weeks, when you're comfortable. From 5 mg onward, take your takehomes and put them in a row. Fill them up to the neck with water. Leave a little tiny sip in each bottle, and make sure each day's subsequent bottle has more liquid remaining than the previous day's bottle. This is especially important to taper painlessly off of 1 mg to 0 mg, for example. Anyone can do it, I promise, it's nothing to do with luck, titration is a natural way the human body reacclimates. If you have any questions feel free
Anyone feel vision changes when on suboxone ? Like not dizzy or straight blurry vision but kind of foggy after every dose or just constantly. Just your eye sight feels different
had my gallbladder taken out because the doctor thought my nausea was because of my gallbladder. it only got worse. I'm considered anorexic and extremely sick. Im 6 foot tall and I weighed just over a hundred pounds. my appetite is terrible and my stomach is in constant turmoil. my question is could this be related to Suboxone
I have no desire to get off I have tried everything else But medication is not the only solution. I still had to work a program My higher power is fine with it and so is my sponsor, so you should be too If not put me on you’re 4th
Get buprenorphine injection, its supose to be a life saver to get off the meds but its not available in my country nor its possible for me to pay 10K for travel and full price of it in USA... so I have to taper my retarted self 😅
I am 6 or 7 weeks since last little piece, my mind is pretty back to normal and I sleep good now, but just yesterday my feet start burning again and the RLS and the urination and testicular pain came back is this normal??
My problem is depression and quality of life.. I stay at home and don’t enjoy anything anymore
I feel that. If I didn't have my loving girlfriend I probably would have ended it by now.
Check out DLPA
@@gnomechild3248 I started abusing opioids in the first place because my loving wife left 😢 and only got on suboxone treatment now because the pills were too expensive to kill the pain with every day but the wds were too harsh to stop cold turkey even after just a month on them. Now I'm like the op, jasonbarnes4245.
So I would say yes, PLEASE appreciate the shit out of what you have as long as you have her.
Same here, try to lower your dose if you can. Less than 2mg did it for me and I am trying to go even lower. My goal is 0.25 and than to get off.
Yupp 5 years clean and I still can’t even get my self to shower ugh….
six months off subs... praise God !! It can be done, set goals, ween down, jump off !!
Congratulations
How many mg were u taking when u jumped off
There is a light at the end of the tunnel is definitely worth it getting of subs i thank god every day I’m of this drug I was better off withdrawing from perks than suboxon but oh well thank god for everything
Dude congrats that's amazing!! It's hard. I opeerate a recovery house for guys like you and I get to see these miracles all the time. It gets me pumped seeing people take that step.
Heck yeah man, congrats. At some point I will do the same. There is just that bad few days I get it. But the anxiety and the mental shit that occurs is the tough stuff to deal with. A friend of mine who passed away from pancreatitis, he was a really bad drinker too many times in his life as well as addicted to pills and at one time The big H. His body was eventually done. But he always said I can deal with the sickness that isn’t the problem, the mental issues anxiety and depression were the worst. And I didn’t think anxiety can be that bad. But when you can’t find any enjoyment in anything, pace room to room. And only feel comfortable in bed. It’s really bad, as well as energy level is depleted completely. No drive, it’s not as easy as just saying get up and do it. Something is wrong. And I hate that. Between the anxiety and it’s also probably Low T mixed in with it. Having no drive is a problem in Itself. It’s awful when at one point you felt as though you had purpose. And now you feel like a complete waste of life with no purpose. I could be just built differently. As I have other mental issues being born with brain damage, and Spastic CP. yeah lol I’m a mess 😂
I got off Subutex two Halloweens ago 🎃👻. I was on it for five years straight. It was the hardest thing I've ever done. Literally, even now I see an improvement each month that passes... stay strong. Ween down with an honest doctor and look forward not backward. Peace 🕊️
Dude I'm in the process tapering down lil by Lil....how did you do it?
How bro? Crazy because it’s almost like coffee or a wake up routine in the morning that gives you energy n helps focus at work
Love the picture of Eddie Vedder leaning on Jeff Ament.
You're so right. In my experience, self awareness is the key to saying sober. Im on a taper im doing myself, because if i leave it up to my doctor, she will not allow me to fully come off. They dont believe in life without something being medicated. I'm down to 2 mg from just a couple years ago taking 3 a day which was making me extremely sick because it got to be way too much. The whole time my doctor knowing thats what was making me sick. I felt better being off this and regret ever going back to it. I want to be free from addiction completely. Not only is this a problem but its way over prescribed and the doses I've been on as well as ive seen others is ridiculous.
How much do you recommend? Is it difficult to taper down? I tapered down off 50 mg of methadone and was able to do it. Will subs be worse? I'm back on the poppy tea and would like to get on subs to ween down. Is that possible?
The med assistance helps.. But it's so strong that you can never get off it.. I'm finally off the suboxone after 10 and a half years.. But I've been through hell to get off it.. Just to be really OK when I get my day in court to get my kids back..months of suffering but I am finally OK..
12 years here
It's either alcohol...the worst. 10 days dead....or Bupe...
I have to die on the inside. I have no respect for dying on the outside
You're a rare doctor...alot of docs and NPs...don't encourage ...really yank the patients Chain to titrate down. It's such a lonely lonely feeling. We should have Bupenorphine groups. This is a wide open topic. Love it. Keep up good work. I wish my doctor of 8 years was on here doing videos. Some of us want to come off suboxone but feel hopeless. I wish my doctor and NP had a Pearl Jam poster in the office lol. You're too cool. Thanks man
@@oldskaterfromchula What do you mean by that? Just curious? Just asking?
In my experience I see the problems arise when people realize that the medication and it’s process isn’t a quick fix. That’s always when Ive seen the conversations that the medicine is worse than the drug… followed by their conspiracy of choice. This is only my anecdotal experience, but its what I see in almost every case.
if you had a quick fix in addiction, you were not addicted in the first place (generally)
Im glad I jumped off Suboxone cold turkey 2 months ago. Doctors are going to tell you it can't be done but trust me it can. It may not be easy but if you have a strong will to want to be completely clean you'll go through with it.
You could of just quit , stopped the original opioid in 7-10 days of withdrawal & 2 months later ,UD be long over it
Very powerful video! Thank you doc ( and my brother in Christ ) Suboxone has definitely helped me in many ways and I’m grateful for that. However the devil messes with me as a Christian and as I read Gods word and I see “sorcery” aka pharmakeia and when I really think about this the devil creeps in and makes me doubt my salvation in Christ. I ultimately know/feel that Gods best is for me to be free from everything and I’m trying but if I constantly think only about getting off of it, then it makes it worse on me. Anyways thank you brother for what you do, you are such a blessing and help.
I agree and relate to you I feel like I haven't fully repented until I'm off suboxone completely
@@nickb2172 It’s a struggle that I “think” I will deal with forever. I’m 42 and started using when I was only 13/14 years old and been that way almost every since. Suboxone is a big pain in my butt BUT it’s also a blessing to me. It has helped me in more ways than I care to probably admit. I doubt many days whether or not it’s Gods best for me. However I’m curious at times if that’s just the devil lying to me and getting me to beat myself up about it. I’m not saying God wants me on it but I will say there are times where I feel God brought it to me to help get me away from IV drugs etc. I was BAD BAD ( like shouldn’t even be alive, but by Gods grace and goodness I’m still here ) I will say this brother - I’m not saying it’s good or bad - I’ve thought long and hard about it as I’m sure you have. But you’ll drive yourself crazy man and it’s not worth it and The Lord doesn’t want that either. Repent of our sins before the Lord and just put it all in His hands and ask Him to lead/guide us is all we can do.
Omgoodness you described me in every word you said! I mean every word. I read about that sorcery stuff and it's crazy!
I've been on 16 mgs a day for 6 years now. Suboxone definitely saved my life! I shot heroin for ten years, lost a lot of friends, two of my girlfriends. F**k that drug. Ill never look back
I've been off suboxone for like a week. I don't see the end of this RLS and anxiety and absolutely no energy. I'm starting a new job in 5 days and I don't even know if I'm going to have to energy to go.
Talk to your doctor. There are lots of things that can help with those symptoms. Especially if you’re a week off meds
I take suboxone and I'm in a program 4 years clean. I hope to get off of it sometime, but just not yet.
Strong work!
🔥 🔥 🔥.
"Be good to your neighbor." - I like that. 👌
Ruined my intestinal and then started causing urinary retention, took me forever to figure out the bladder issue was subs as well.. i was forced to get off it was destroying my organs and not sleeping every other night at bc my bladder was so painful
I’ve been having varying similar issues. Don’t know the cause but out of nowhere my colon and intestinal and bladder have been really hurting. Things haven’t felt right, seeing doctors about it the past few months trying to sort it all out.
Were you able to get off subs, if so, how is your stomach etc now?
Rock bottom savior that's me 100%. Suboxone is my savior and I have a hard time imagining life without it...but I'm trying to wean down one little piece at a time.
Been on it 20yrs now and don’t plan on coming off,it was easy to die years ago when I was still getting high but now with the Fentanyl out it’s pretty much a guarantee that your next relapse will be your last meaning you will die and I will not take that chance just to say I came off Subs
I have come to terms of probability of being on it the rest of my life.😅
You speak truth.
Ive tried the both.and its day and night.on the buepren there is almost impossible to treat my ptsd or grow as a human being...when i was 109% sober there was a force..life force..witch now is abstent..no ups..no downs..just flat..
Rock bottom for me is when i let go off the cotroll and surender from the drugs..and the road there is a hellava road😅
I hope you find happiness. Buprenorphine aloud me to be happy again and grow as a human being, and truly face my trauma and heal from it.
@@geekinhard343 how much was u on?? I'm on 32mg pr day...maby it's to much??🤔
@@aleksandergjengst782 yeap, too much. You would feel the same with 10% of that... You can get down to 4mg fast, with no problems. Just make a plan and consult your doctor, 32mg would kill any emotion to elefant...
Hey dr Chris park, is it true that suboxone can be cardio protective in any way? Been wondering how it affects the heart and stuff?
Cycle of relapse is all too known in SUD.... Behaviour needs to be changed to assist in recovery techniques... The draw Opiates have is so strong when you are stuck in negative behaviour or under emotional distress etc etc to change and live well is a personal choice
Yeah but buprenorphine makes that choice much easier.
Has anyone ever switched to naltraxanone?
I hate ppl who can’t have there coffee or drink b4 th vid
Thirty years of meds /relapse meds/relapse, damn fkn hard worK for sure
Bro I used subs for 5 years tapered off no problem u have to want it I'm not special u can do it too
Yeah I came off 50 mg methadone in a year, it was super easy, just go down 1 mg per week and don't be up in your head about it. Zero withdrawal
@@FraterOculuswow!!😮 seriously? You got off methadone easily? I don’t think I’ve ever seen that- and I’ve been researching this subject like crazy lately! Lucky lucky man! 🍀 🙏
@@aritina8379 it just takes time and patience, what nobody has. Use the liquid, go down 2 mg every couple of weeks til you get to like, 30 mg, then go down 1 mg every couple weeks, when you're comfortable. From 5 mg onward, take your takehomes and put them in a row. Fill them up to the neck with water. Leave a little tiny sip in each bottle, and make sure each day's subsequent bottle has more liquid remaining than the previous day's bottle. This is especially important to taper painlessly off of 1 mg to 0 mg, for example. Anyone can do it, I promise, it's nothing to do with luck, titration is a natural way the human body reacclimates. If you have any questions feel free
Well said doctor 👨⚕️
I am 64 years old and I take suboxone for severe body pain. What are thoughts on that?
I have several patients that take Suboxone for chronic pain
♥️ the Pearl Jam poster!
My husband takes zubsolve and I am convinced he is making way more mistakes in daily life....is this possible? Forgetting things, losing keys, etc.
I would need to ask questions, but its probably to do with lowering of sex hormones = memory loss.
Anyone feel vision changes when on suboxone ? Like not dizzy or straight blurry vision but kind of foggy after every dose or just constantly. Just your eye sight feels different
had my gallbladder taken out because the doctor thought my nausea was because of my gallbladder. it only got worse. I'm considered anorexic and extremely sick. Im 6 foot tall and I weighed just over a hundred pounds. my appetite is terrible and my stomach is in constant turmoil. my question is could this be related to Suboxone
I have had patients with significant nausea from Suboxone.
No
You could be allergic to the nalaxone in it. Ask your doctor about trying subutex, or something that doesn't have the nalaxone.
@@factbeaglesarebestlol no???? A lot of people have horrible nausea from suboxone, even after they're stable in it.
I have no desire to get off
I have tried everything else
But medication is not the only solution. I still had to work a program
My higher power is fine with it and so is my sponsor,
so you should be too
If not put me on you’re 4th
Gosh I wish I never started suboxon
Hi doc I ve been on sub for over 20 years, can’t stop and can’t tamper I tried every way but no use…any suggestions
That’s a loaded question. I can’t give you specific advice on the internet. But maybe I’ll short a video soon and give some general ideas
@@dr.chrispark I checked your website you don’t take online appointments for consultations?
Buvidal?
Get buprenorphine injection, its supose to be a life saver to get off the meds but its not available in my country nor its possible for me to pay 10K for travel and full price of it in USA... so I have to taper my retarted self 😅
i pray i get some help.
Buvidal is your answer it's unbelievable
I am 6 or 7 weeks since last little piece, my mind is pretty back to normal and I sleep good now, but just yesterday my feet start burning again and the RLS and the urination and testicular pain came back is this normal??
You should not be having acute withdrawal at this point. Go to your doctor and get checked out and see if something else is going on
Suboxone was hurting my testicles and lower abdominal area. Digestive tract system as well.
Did you ever figure what was wrong?
@@craigbourque1696Did you ever figure out whats wrong
Also does it cause you to lose sex drive?
Yes it can. My testosterone tanked on subs.
Yes!!! Say it louder for those in the back
Is he a real doctor? He look like a thug
Great vid brother! I just shouted you out in my live stream (near the end). Hope you’re doing well let’s link up again sometime. 👍
Thanks! And yes, we should do another collab 🤘🏼