How to Survive Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Everyone knows withdrawal can be brutal.
But what about the problems that come after the immediate withdrawal?
It's called Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome.
No matter how difficult things are.....
You can get through them.
You will.
I've seen it done.
It is possible.
Stay strong and believe.
The way out, is the way through.
The way out, is the way in.
Inside yourself.
p.s.
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It has to be one of the worst things you can go through mentally. Having your mind and body being against you and having to fight through it, WHILST living an adult life
David1221 A Yep. No easy way. Just got to get through it
ECSPECIALLY when everyone around you says just quit you its not that hard we are tired of this so on.. no support!!!! Relapse is constantly staring me dead in the eyes !
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@@dr.chrispark Agreed. And no one can understand it either, unless they've been there. Still, I'd rather be going through the pain of suffering withdrawal, because that has a silver ling at the end. Whereas, addiction only gets worse, and the pain from that becomes progressive.
Yup, I know all to well, I'm 8 months off benzos, and this is been one of the worst things I have ever gone through mentally, physically, emotionally its been hell on earth. Things are looking up, but its been one hell of a ride, you couldn't have said it better
I got off suboxone for 6 months before i couldn't take the depression anymore and went back on a low dose. The struggle is real.
For acute withdraw if you've tapered successfully just avoid alcohol and coffee, or any stimulant, you'll make it through fine.
Post acute, listen to this guy.
Dr Park, I just want to thank you. This felt like you were talking right at me. I’m 20 days off sub and your videos and keeping me on this track thank you so much.
Thanks! 🤘🏼
Hey my brother you got it 100% been in this war for 15 years im 30 lol been a suboxion patient 5 time relapsed but an a born again Christian looking to be a preacher on a taper dose and the lord will see that I have this bandage of addiction broken thanks for the videos keep it up my friend...
Very best videos from this guy from all others I’ve seen
Hey buddy thanks for checking out my suboxone channel. I have to say it is frustrating when I see people say how the withdrawals are the easy part and that’s when the hard part starts after that. Really makes it hard to focus on getting ready to jump off. I’m now tapered down to literally .25 mg per day and I can def say that even coming off that small of a dose I wake up every morning way to early with RLS. It’s mind blowing how such a tiny dose can still put me in or take me out of withdrawal. I’ve tapered for a year now and the time is near but I’m waiting for my body to stabilize on this dose before I jump off. I don’t see how the heck people can say the withdrawal is the easy part, that’s got to be false right? Thanks for your videos I watch every one of them. Keep Em coming lol
badass1g Yeah it frustrates me too. I have also noticed comments from time to time by people that when you’re on a low dose it’s just mental. Well that’s bullshit. That’s why I tend to recommend a very slow taper which seems like what you’re trying. I also suspect someone like you could be a high metabolizer. I’ve had some of my patients take melatonin at night to help with restless legs (even if symptoms are not til morning) But I’m not giving out advice. It’s just what helped some of my folks when their dose got low
@@dr.chrispark magnesium supposed to help with rls too
mel b And potassium, supplement or bananas and other foods. It helped me when I went through detox.
When i went to .50 taking my dose before bed and not first thing when i woke up made me sleep better. I'm on .25 every other day and about to jump off. Go slow do what feels right to you
badass1g its the easy part mate and its the part gets you encouraged and teaches about you mean that you are not made of glass you will take that pain like a peace if cake i am in my day 34 i have passed the pain and withdrawals part sleepless and appetiteless parts now like you i always thought every one is lying but mate jump off this hill it doesn’t kill any way just let the body and brai do there job i m advising you go for holiday to a place that you dont know any one with a family member that really cares
I’ve been clean from pain pills for coming up 5 years and I still go through PAWS. Specialists don’t know and lack of knowledge and studies here in Australia. I have all symptoms apart from the fact I have never craved to get high and I’m almost 5 years clean!
I’m going through PAWS right now and it’s hell! I’m so sore and irritated etc.
I had to change my diet drink beetroot juice daily for energy effervescent vitamin c. Multivitamin and mineral. B complex and magnesium for stress all these things together gave me my energy and motivation back
try st johns wort, natural antidepressant
When i kicked opiets i needed to do it fast. 15 yr herion iv user. I got sick and dident know it til i was hospitalised. Hep-c of course scared my liver and my levels were through the roof. Chrosis of the liver and as they were doing there endoscopes they found barrets. To sick for radation or chemo was sent home with a medi port in my heart and hospice. Cannabis i turned to, not only did it shrink my tumor to nothing within 1 month i was in fibrosis 2 and cancer free. To this day i manage my recovery by speaking to the public about the epedimic in buffalo ny. I used cannabis to manage p.a.w.s it clears my thoughts and it helps me to forget what was causing me the anxiety in the 1st place. A good diet good sleep paterns and positive thinking works for me. Thanks for listing to my rant
mark Seidel I’m glad MJ helped your symptoms but I wouldn’t credit it for curing cirrhosis. Send some praises to God for that one. Glad to hear you’re doing better. Keep those positive vibes going 🤙
Harvoni recently went generic. No longer 40k a month. 6 month tx can clear the hep c.
Dr Chris I find beetroot juice daily gives me lots of clean energy to workout at the gym I take multivitamin mineral and vitamin c daily say my prayers and I'm good. Was a 24 year heroin habit🤔
Whenever I successfully come off, I need to do it fast as well, usually cold turkey, but going on day 3 I'll use ( but mostly benzo instead of pure fent, get sick, throw up on spot & I'm done, but sometimes that method don't work.
I’m a month into methadone detox and I still can’t sleep more than 3 hours at a time
Thank you so much Doc! Im on 0 finaly, day 7. Much easier when you followd your tips :)
@@nomorewarffs Awesome!
Used oxy 9 yrs for migraines. Clean 25 days having paws. Guess I just wait.....tapered at home. Btw. Very spiritual. I’ll get there I guess. Don’t plan on dying. Lol!!!!!’ God willing! He’ll carry my cross for me!
Migraine Mama way to go! Good for you and with no suboxin.... you're tuff !
Tod Harper thanks 60 days clean, feel so much better, July 12 I will be 90 days clean, God willing! Thanks for all the good vibes!
Sounds more like you just haven’t been sober long enough. 9 years and only sober 25 days ure just making it to a month at that point of course your body isn’t gonna feel normal that I wouldn’t call paws
Today is May 6, 2021. I feel absolutely wonderful. God is good.
@@migrainemama7932 did u feel depersonalization in ur withdrawal pleasse ans 169 days sober
I was a drunk by 7th grade. Did a lot of meth and coke to wake up from my usual drunken stupor. By the time I was in my mid 20’s I was smoking coke. I’m grateful for that because I probably would have stayed drunk for another decade but crack destroyed my life. I got sober in 97. The first 10 years were awesome. I didn’t get arrested or beat up once. I woke up every morning in the same place that I went to bed. I went back to college, got a degree, opened a business, got married, had kids, and had a wonderful life. After 10 years life hit hard. Both of my parents died about a year apart. I got very ill and was diagnosed with painful, terminal disease. I broke my back in a wave runner accident and was prescribed opiates for the illness and the injuries. I didn’t like the pain pills and took less than prescribed.....for a while. Yeah, I didn’t like them....until I did and I don’t know when that happened. I was coming up on 14 years sober (I thought) when I had taken an oxy 80mg and was crushing another to snort when I saw myself in a mirror and realized that I was no longer sober. See, we don’t talk about drugs in AA because of the singleness of purpose so I had no idea that opiates were basically pharmaceutical heroin. In hindsight I had a little over 12 years sober. Since I lost my clean time I figured I’d drink to make sure that I really was still an alcoholic. Well, I drank a quart of vodka, got in a fight, spent $300 on cocaine, and woke up naked in my foyer. I said to myself “Kev, you’re not a social drinker”, popped an oxy and went to work. Since then I haven’t been able to put together much more than six months clean and I only did that once. I can get through the first few days/weeks. It’s the months that follow that keep taking me out. It’s the lack of energy and motivation that mess me up. I was always a hard worker but now I can’t imagine tackling a large job without the help of opiates. I switched to heroin a little over a year ago and I have been doing 2 bundles a day for a while. Today I have almost a month clean but I need to make money and I’m scared that it will take me out again. Any advice would be appreciated. This has been an 8-9 year downward spiral. I have lost EVERYTHING. The only thing left to lose is my life.
Hey Kevin, how are you doing? I noticed no one responded. I honestly don't have answers. I'm in a methadone maintenance program. Have you tried one of those? I literally went from opiates to the maintenance program. When I started to think about heroin I freaked and finally threw up the white flag and asked for help. 😔 I just read your comment and wanted to reach out and say I hope you're doing as well as you can. Even though you might not be fully "recovered" and living a "perfect" life, to me it sounds like you're doing better then a lot of others! You keep fighting back, no matter how many times you fall. And you should be proud of that. If you aren't, know that some chick in Arizona is proud of you, lol. Lots of love. -Roxanne.
Thanks Roxanne (that’s my favorite name by the way). Actually I’m doing great. I’ll have 90 days next Saturday. I’m working full time. Sort of. I work for myself and my energy isn’t all of the way back so I’m doing what I can (which is kind of a lot). I know it takes time and I’ve accepted that. I didn’t chose Subs or Methadone because I really enjoyed my life when I was completely free of substances and I wanted to try to get back to that. In no way am I opposed to either of those though. If it was between medications and dope, believe me, I’m going with the meds. Thank you so much for reaching out. You brightened my night.
@@kevinwheesysouthward9295 that is awesome to hear!!! Sometimes you respond to a comment and never hear back! I love my name too. I didn't when I was a kid, lol. But now I love that anywhere I go, people sing my name! So thank you for loving it as much as me! ❤ I'm so happy for you! You just have no idea. I read your comment and my heart just hurt seeing that no one reached out to encourage you! I hope you're proud of you too! 90 days is fantastic! One day I will be there with you. I'm still proud of my time with the program I'm in. It definitely beats living the way I was! But I know one day I will fight hard to get the girl back that I was before all of this. I'll just be a little stronger having survived it all. Just as you will be. ❤ Keep it up! I'm just so happy for you.🤗
Try kratom!! At least research it, it has helped way too many people to be a fluke
I’ve tried Kratom in the past. It is very effective. I’m not using it this time because it’s my personal choice to abstain from any mind altering substances. I don’t see a problem with someone using it though. If it ever gets to the point where I could use again, I would surely use Kratom first.
Suboxone paws had major fatigue and anxiety symptoms even after months and months
No your absolutely not supposed to be dead tired all the time, no your legs arnt supposed to feel like they weigh 500 lbs each, and no your not supposed to wake up every hour when you sleep. That's not normal so don't put that bullshit out there like your supposed to feel that way.
yea you dont know shit apparently been like that for the last 24 days since i havnt had my subutex in 24 days
1 day at a time yall. Luckily i only took 3 or 4 ruff days of withdrawal. But depression anxiety and lack of energy are tuff but it comes and goes. Staying productive and reminding myself that its all part of the process. When i get down to the point where i'm gonna relaps my wife helps in many ways. My friends help with encouragement aswell. So far shrinks havnt helped infact when i talked openly to one of them i was diagnosed schizophrenic and given meds that made me faint daily. Do things that you like . I make music and thats gives a feeling of reward and gives me a goal to work af and get my mind off how i feel. Drugs controlled me for years and its gonna take years to get control Back. 1day at a time, sometimes 1hour at a time. But im starting to enjoy life again. Videos like this help u understand what you're going through and alow u to trust the process .
Hello sir. Very much appreciated your support towards recovery addicts. My question is Hi. I recently completed 95 days off of meth. I used to snorting it. It was for 1 year Binge doing it. PAWS experience i have from anxiety to panic attacks to hell lot of mood upside down with finally no feeling like my self anymore. Bipolar symptoms is the best way to explain i guess. Does it goes away? How many months more i have to suffer this its already been 90 days of abstinence. Please give me a appropriate response so i can move forward to my journey of soberity.😊
I tried to relate this concept, to my german doctors. They probably thought, I had a stroke. They do not even have that concept of PAWS. That should change, I could have benefitted, so much, from that info. I always thought my body was failing me. This PAWS thing, makes me understand.
Right on doc. People need to learn to forgive themselves. Was my biggest downfall. Felt so guilty about things that I had no control of....then things that I did. But point is forgive yourself. Think about tomorrow. U cant change the past but you can always work toward tomorrow. God Bless
P.S. two weeks is a monster. That's a long time. Been there and done it tho. Actually took me 9 days to at least feel somewhat ok to crawl out of bed. I was still In a hoodie shivering in 90 degree weather. But I was out of bed in that hoodie lol
Yes!
Thank you for the help man. Been addicted to street opioids for almost a year. A week sober today. The workouts have helped a bit
Just want to say the fatigue and insomnia from PAWS is way more severe than what normal people go through. I'm a couple months off Suboxone after taking it for 12 years, and sometimes I have to drag myself to the bathroom upstairs. I also sleep so restless and wake up between 3-4 no matter what time I go to bed.
Burg did u feel fatigue like no spirit in body and stomach cramps in ur withdrawal please answer I m 79 days sober still feel these sym sleep 6 7 hhours daily.please answer
This video helped me more than any other as i go through PAWS.
I’m glad to hear that. Good luck and Godspeed 🤘🏼
I’m 23 days clean. I was drinking 20-25 beers a day for about 10 years. I felt like shit for the first 2 weeks and then it kind of got better the last week. Then last night out of no where I got dizzy and my blood pressure spiked to 173/112 heart was having palpitations and I was all messed up. Called the ambulance and they said it could still be from the withdrawal is this true ? I thought I was out of the deep water
I started my taper in August from 12 mg now I'm at 4. I manage to stay very busy and its def been helping a lot. Im not quite at the more uncomfortable part yet but come December its gonna be a ride. Wish me luck! Btw I find your channel very helpful. Thanks you for your insight.
I had this for over a year after stopping Zoloft. Absolutely brutal. I am still far from 100% of what I was before being put on that crap. I actually did sleep well and had good energy. I was healthy before Zoloft, except for Hashimoto’s and hiding hEDS. Now I am chronically ill and bedridden with POTS, Dercum’s disease, hEDS, interstitial cystitis, mast cell activation syndrome etc. I am a mess and I can hardly sleep now. I was put on it because I got real dizzy while on the treadmill at the gym, which may have been early POTS. It was diagnosed as emetophobia. Now I am left with the above ailments plus akathisia, RLS, PLMD, tics, dystonic spasms, and my marriage is hanging by a thread. They need to start recognizing PAWS due to SSRIs and SNRIs, because I almost didn’t survive it.
Sooo sorry. OMG. Terrible. Take care!! I am having paws too. From Prozac 12 years 🌹🌹
All this shit is poison
THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEOS DOCTOR !!! You’ve helped me with weening off this medication
I have paws. Month 16 after stopping Antidepressants. It is very very severe😪. Thanks for this video!
I was with you until you got to the counseling part. The only counselor we need is the Holy Spirit. Doctors are part of the reason a lot of us were stuck in this mess.There in it to make money point blank period. People need to repent and cry out to Jesus Christ and start reading the word of God.
Unworthy Servant of Jesus Christ ok. Good luck
Yeah God will do the trick. Good idea sheep boy
@Jody Dixon Amen and thank you. God bless you
@@dr.chrispark it has nothing to do with luck. It has everything to do with faith in Jesus Christ
@@brith4942 i'd rather be a sheep to my Shepherd Jesus Christ then a goat on his way to hell for eternity. But i will pray for you.
Someone needs to study low dose tramadol for the withdrawal symptoms from antidepressants. It completely stopped the zaps in my case.
Interesting
Did you take it every day? And for how long? Did you not get addicted? Thanks in advance!
@witbfmkw6773 I'm not a doctor, and I can't give advice, but I took it in place of my Cymbalta dose in the morning, then every 8hrs for 5 days, and no zaps. It is contraindicated, because of the possibility of serotonin syndrome . It worked for me. I don't recommend trying it without professional advice.
@@mistylor13 thank you for answering
@witbfmkw6773 no problem. Just covering my butt.
Just quit weed after 24 years of use and PAWS has just started. The first two weeks clean were awesome, but in the last two days this feeling of gloom hangs on me like a bad cold. Been doing the gym, better diet, spending time in the word , and so on. I was hoping too dodge paws but nope it real and it sucks. Either way I'm not going back to weed which caused paws. It takes time.
Stay strong! Things will get better
I put myself into precipitated withdrawal on purpose to traumatize my brain to fear it rather than want it. 20 hours of hell and used nitrous oxide to stay leveled. Once I found out I wanted to become a park ranger, live in the woods and had a solid plan omg life felt worth it. Paws lasts depending on how intensely you used too
This guy, in NO way, explained anything to me about what to expect for a year in PAWS.
I didn't have serious symptoms until being off Mirtazipine and Lexapro for 5 months. And then it hit. It's fucking brutal and I'm realizing it's going to take a while.
I’m there now! I stopped at 4mg the 28th and I’m on day 6 without taking anymore subs and the worst part is when is the diarrhea stop! I was on it for 4 1/2 years and I’m taking clonidine 0.1mg for withdrawal’s at night maybe it’s keeping me having it.. just ready for it to stop..
I was on clonazepam 0.5 before bed. I was on it for 20 years... tapered for 19 months .. been off 14 days . so far so good....
Hi Mario How are you sleeping?
@@dianemorrell9638 Its been 13 months Off & Not Bad.. Sometimes I can't sleep but that happens maybe 2x every 2 or 3 weeks .. Thank God
My mom and dad have heroin addiction and my mam taking extra meds and now they have both been going through withdrawal my dad went to rehab and my mam decided to stay with us her three kids who is am 12 my sister 6 and my brother who's 4 with ADHD and sensory issues my mam is trying her best going through withdrawl at home cold turkey and she suffers with bipolar, emotional personality disorder and bad anxiety she is the best mam and so proud i know she'll do it
My mom is concerned about the acute withdrawal syndrome stage with her mental health and work rearing my little brother who's hyper and controlling
I hope everything is ok. I LOVE YOU
5 days clean so far. The RLS and awful aches motivating me to never go back. Kratom got me through without creating a new dependency for sub. Every day gets a little better even if it’s just a morsel. You will sleep eventually I promise. Like he said being tired is just life. Keep pushing! I’m with you
Hey bro, did the kratom get to be too much or was is a good transition for you?
Under 1mg of subs wd are kicking in pretty strong don’t know much about kratom but think about trying when I jump would love to know more about that experience much appreciate it. Thank you!
I’ve been sober for four months and I’m always lightheaded and woozy along with anxiety and coordination problems. I have neuropathy from the alcohol and my feet have some numbness. MRI and CT scans showed nothing wrong.
I’m feeling all of this what you just stated 4 months and 19 days about how long did this last for you?
After 10+ years of non stop abuse you can't expect your body to recover from that in 2 weeks which ppl just don't understand that
Kevin Schmid Yep
Can't walk ten miles into the forest and expect to walk out in five! 🤔
R C 😂😂😂Brilliant!
the longer on the opiates, the longer the paws. the brain chemistry changes and the body doesnt make dopamine... try living months and not feel any happiness. tired, black cloud hanging over every day. like a never ending cycle.
texas tough that sounds like Anhedonia to me.
DLPA is good for enhancing dopamine levels and gives many people great relief
Also depends on how many times you've detoxed. Like I detoxed many times before finally quitting that when I finally did it wasnt as bad as the first time. Fentanyl recovery. I could even get away with a prescription pain pill occasionally, I was only addicted for fentanyl pressed pills. Oxycodone doesn't even feel anything like what I was taking. I used to refuse regular Roxy's and even heroin during withdrawal. My mind was only on that. I stopped fentanyl but have been prescribed one time for oxycodone 15 for an injury and it only took the pain away. I didn't get that high anymore
Maybe my receptors are bad. I wasnt using that much fentanyl in a day, one pill max for 3 years. Depends on so many things.
I wash using OxyCodone 10mg daily for 1yr & 8 month how long do you think my paws will go on before I only took em here & there so the total is 3 yrs
And your eyes are so pretty they match your cup!
Was on medication assisted treatment for 6 years. Did rapid detox under anesthesia almost 3 weeks ago. The anhedonia and insomnia is absolutely terrible. I keep wondering if my brain is permanently broken.
I've been an addict of just about everything. I got down to kratom and smoke, but the kratom became a crutch I didn't want. 4th day off Kratom, quit my job because it was stressful and I could get myself right in that environment. Kratom is not as brutal as other withdraws so as soon as I'm on the other side of the physical symptoms I know I'll be fine. I'm sitting in 100degree heat sweating balls off pissed that I came to this and just wanna be normal and not dependent on anything but myself. Fkn pissed.
RK JE Good luck brother🤙
I am 21 months clean off valium.I used valium everyday for about 2 years straight in massive doses.I am still a complete mess the shakes and anxiety are still a problem.this withdrawal was hard to put into words it is absolutely horrendous
How are you feeling now? Any updates
@@candiereece5868 think I’m nearly there maybe another 3 months until back to 100 percent it’s so drawn out and unpredictable
@@Jack-mw3rp im 4 weeks out from going cold turkey from taking xanax well it will be 4 weeks this upcoming Saturday and its been complete hell i must say the mental part and physically. My head feels detached from my body i feel dizzy and light headed my taste buds aren't there i have to force myself to eat and drink. I had a window a few days ago where i felt decent enough to not climb in the bed and go to sleep. Im glad you are feeling so much better since u have been clean for a while now i hope to get there as well someday. Any suggestions or any advice you can give?
@@candiereece5868 wait till the insomnia and weight loss kicks in. Your rhr will be so high like you're running a marathon. Head buzzing body on high alert as soon as you try to sleep your breathing resets body spasms anything to prevent you from sleeping. You gotta taper this shit. I tried seven months CT . Didn't touch the sides. Lost three stone and turned yellow. Reinstate find your tolerance and slowly taper.
plus dont forget during PAWS the triggers that people and places can cause...... in my expirience leaving town for a few months was the best solution
AN1KETOS Very true!
I'm rewatching this again. I see I commented on this video _3 years ago_ when I quickly tapered from 24mg down to about 2mg & jumped. I lasted 74 days before I gave in & took some Suboxone.
I'm now back to watching Sub videos prepping myself to taper again. All I know is the PAWS coming off Subs was _terrible!_ The 0 energy was bad. At least this time around I know what to expect!!
I’m an avid follower of your videos. I started suboxone 6-7 years ago . Crappie doctors and crappie hospitals but stuck it out. I’m down to 8mg per day with also prescribed .5 mg klonopin. Last month my sub doc took me off klonopin. I’ve had several seizures, one bad enough to put me at the ER last night. Treated like a leapor. I called my doc this morning to follow up was told won’t see me until my next scheduled appointment. Here I sit. The low dose suboxone already has me in a mild sometimes severe withdrawal and BOOM, I’m left to myself to deal with all this until the next appointment. No sure imo make it .
I can barely walk the dog , rediculous and I gotta go back to work. Not sure how that's gonna happen 30 days clean off 15 years of opiate use. Last use was on and off Suboxone tapered from 8mg per day
"You should be getting some good sleep".... oh, THAT'S a good one!
Ive been experiencing withdrawals from alcohol, its very fucking scary. My last drink was about 3 weeks ago and i have this muscle twitches throughout my body, my nerves feel really sensitive also to a point where its so uncomfortable like im shaking inside my body, its difficult to explain. This feelings have been coming and going, couple of hours im fine then out of nowhere it hits me. Is this paws? Ive been researching for days and im very afraid.
Yes it is man. Going through same thing. Only myne is severe panic and anxiety
Awesome validating video
Thank you ! ❤
FOUNDATION!!!!!!I have a sponsor and I make meetings at least four a day !! I have literature and I changed my eating to clean eating now I just have to start my exercise routine!!! Thank you Dr Park
It took me a year to go thru 1mg to .25 and Im 4 days off and my life is looking good right now i had 2 bad days that's it
Jackie Sapp Great job 🤙
Your comment put a smile on my face. I'm 1 week in and going through hell at the moment. I have huge pressures as I am running a cleaning company with my business partner. I am at home for two weeks but then I'm returning to my job. I think being busy and focusing on tasks will help me a lot because sitting here at home is driving me crazy as every minute is like a week.
@@MICKEYISLOWD one week!! Before you know it youll be at 1 month!! Keep it up!! Im like 6 weeks in now!! Or 2 months idk ive lost count now!!
Jackie Sapp How long were u at the clinic to get down to .25 ????
@@bigcd5485 about 2 years
Absolutely no antidepressants or anxiety meds. Maybe an OCCASIONAL anxiety med
hirskdubbi 👍
What you mean ?? Did you suffer paws and advise no take any meds ?
Research "Benzo Withdrawl"..please don't take anxiety meds!
I feel like I’m going crazy. Got into a motorcycle accident 3 1/2 years ago at 22. Was on opioids for that whole time and abused them immensely just to feel good and not feel pain. I cut off half my hand and messed up my leg for life. Went through 30 surgeries. And I’d rather go through all that again than deal with this. I forced myself off of opioids 5 1/2 months ago. Ever since then I’ve had constant anxiety/shaking, sweaty palms/feet, heart palpitations and just uncomfortable af in my body. It’s 24/7. Doesn’t go away. Only thing that helps is drinking but I don’t want to do that. I hate drinking. I hired a therapist and finally am seeing a psychiatrist on Friday. Im just desperate.
Dont give up brotha, things will become better. You’ve made it far 5.5 months is a long time when everyday feels like shit. You’ve got it brotha be strong!
I hope you’re doing better now You’ve been thru a lot. 💪
Hell beyond Hell...From ZYPREXA!!💥👊
You are not wrong chap, going through paws it's a nightmare, and I never needed that drug.
It seems to always feel like your going backwards in recovery! No matter what you do.
I know what you mean, but you can’t walk 100 miles into the woods and expect to turn around and get out with just a few steps.
@Dr. Chris Park I definitely understand that, I was on 40 mg of percocets everyday for 3 years from a pain management dr. I'm 72 days off it and I feel paws very intense everyday I had no idea it would be this hard!
If I am in PAWS and I use music, mainly Beatles, to feel better... even if only temporarily. The music works so well that I almost feel like I have a buzz from it. I can feel my heartbeat speed up and feel an endorphin rush.
My question is this, Am I setting my PAWS back or doing a bad thing by using the music as a "rush". Is that similar to taking a tiny crumb of subutex? Or should I not hit my endorphins in the way I described. Just let them come back naturally? Or maybe this is a good thing?
I would say it's a good thing
Thank you bro. But please no slurping drinks while recording
Bless you
novakaya 🤣🤣🤣
I'm tapering off Suboxone after 12 years of taking it. I'm already down to 3/4 of a half strip a day. I have been noticing a lot of anxiety issues, and panic attacks at night, raising up my blood pressure to level from 160- 190. My blood pressure meds haven't really worked as good, so I have started working out in a gym and taking supplements. I just started taking these supplements, called NMN, Resveratrol, N-A-C, and Cataplex G and Cataplex B vitamin that gives me all the B vitamins. I noticed a big difference in how I feel, and I recently started taking them. I two questions I like to ask: Are these cell repair supplements good to take while I'm tapering off Suboxone? I also experiencing memory issues. I work for a Mayor League Sports Club and these memory issues have affected my work performance. My 2nd question, Is there anything I can do to help me with the memory issues? Thanks :)
I hear Genius Joy supplements work. You can get them on Amazon.
Your spot on and well spoken!
Funny to open this and see your name. My dad and oldest brother are Chris Park!
Just had to say that lol.
I’m tired all the time but I can’t sleep
Also lack Vitamin B1 in the brain.
Hi I had bloodwork done yesterday and looked up my results on mychart
Most of the results were in the "normal range" but my BUN is 29 which I know is very high. I sent and left a message for my Dr &haven't heard back . Is this an alarming BUN level ?
(I was on high doses of Tramadol for over 10 years)
Has anyone gone through PAWS more than once?
Yea the fatigue that you get with paws is not just normal everyday fatigue trust me . This is extreme and not normal. The brain and receptors have definitely been altered to some degree. I’m gonna try growth hormone secretegoges like tesamorelin and ipamorelin apparently it helps really well with deep sleep recovery and regenerating brain tissue. Cuz to me the reason it takes soo long to heal from suboxone is cuz you can’t sleep. So if you never sleep you’ll never heal. Let me know what y’all think bout this. Hopefully it helps.
sleep is vital 👍
@@dr.chrisparkyea enjoy watching your videos they help out alot. im down to .25mg once a day right now. hopefully my plan works well i might end up doing .25mg every other day and so on and so forth until hopefully i wont need it anymore. i dont like getting my hopes up to soon though.
Hello, I have had sleep problems since I quit opiates 7 years ago. did the tesamorelin help? greetings from Switzerland
@@pascalstrebel5027 yes the tesamorelin combined with ipamorelin . Def helps with recovery and sleep. It’s not a magic bullet but it helps for sure. Increases your deep sleep cycle you’ll wake up feeling more refreshed
I was on xanax and forgot to fill my prescription one day. Well, all hell broke loose. Lucky my boyfriend at the time was a medic in the army. Hallucinations, delusions and 6 grand mall seizures. Hospitalized and while there, thought the mafia was after me. 2 weeks in the hospital. Sent home, absolutely no sleep for 30 nights. HORRIFIC HORRIFIC.
Sorry you had to experience such horror.💗
Does working out really help with withdraws? My doctor said he doesn’t know. I wish I had a doctor like you around here. But I’m down to 3mg a day and going strong but having slight withdraws and I know more are to come as I continue to go down in dose. But do working out really make a difference?
Mattterson34 !! Strength is never a weakness. Exercise improves your mental state, your circulation, your testosterone, dopamine, and serotonin levels. Is it a magic pill? No. But it will help your ability to push through difficulty and that is a super power that few people understand ✌🏽
Dr. Chris Park thank you for the reply. And sounds good. Yeah I’m down to 2-3 mg a day now and working out and eating right and taking my vitamins to help the push. So let’s hope it continues to go this well. So far not to much bad other then runny nose.
Will a relapse restart tje paws? What about the occasional use of kratom to coupe? Will that restart the process, or will my brain continue to heal?
Best video!!! Thankyou
Please could you do a video on wether it's counter productive to take tramadol for a short time to stop Subutex withdrawal,I've been through hell and back,been in a and e three times and been sent home with them saying we're not a rehabilitation center,which I think is discussing.but I'm stuck,I can't just have nothing after ten years .Jesus bless you .x
Ryan Halford Try to find a doctor that will help you. If you have insurance, go to a rehab, if you don’t have any insurance, talk to the Salvation Army. They have a program to help. I went through a detox two years ago, after many years of opiate addiction. It was very hard, but I lived through it. If there’s anything that I can do to help you, text me back anytime.♥️✌️
@@CMoore8539 thank you sir.i live in the UK,but it's only Christ who can really change me from within.keep inspiring people.
I used kratom for 30 days then Imodium for 5 days and it was a big help compared to the other times I tried to just cut down and stop subs with no other help
Kratom is amazing, and so much better than pharmaceuticals!
I'm taking tramadol to help with my suboxone withdrawal... it helps but I still feel tired and unmotivated... but I'm not feeling the sickness of withdrawal from the suboxone
Please can someone just shed some light on if I have a anxiety disorder or going through paws. Im like 135 days clean from hydro morphine and that last use was just relapse since 2 months prior I would take 12-15 8mg pills crushed. To this day I deal with anxiety it’s on and off and worse and better at times but it has been better then back to 40 days ago. Could this be a anxiety disorder
How you feeling right man
I have a question about Naltrexone. I took my last .25 yesterday. I would like to start Naltrexone once the Sub is out of my system. But I’m afraid it will numb me out like the subs did. Also, will it affect my brain healing?
I'm 46. I started smoking meth when I was 18. Then I started taking. Hydrocodones to help the Come down off of Meth. And then it mainly became opiates. I was bad. I'd give my whole paycheck for 4 pills or something as an example. I finally went to a doctor and I've been on Suboxone for 2 years. And I haven't had a pain pill. I haven't smoked meth or nothing. But am I just now addicted to Suboxone?
Bryan bighat There’s a difference between addiction and dependence. Good job on getting off the drugs! You’ve saved your life 🤘🏽
@@dr.chrispark .. Hello, doctor, Chris... I was in a very weird state of mind that night I commented on your Channel. And just you responding to me. Really really? It really helped me and my morale..
I went to the doctor yesterday and I showed him your response. And he told me that you were exactly right. But I still didn't understand the difference between dependence and addiction. And he gave me an analogy. Of like say if I broke my leg. I would get a cast. And then I would get crutches and then I would get a walking boot and then such and such . I think I kind of understand the difference between addiction and dependency
it's jake from state harm That’s a good analogy 👍
I'm on day 12 off of Subutex after 24mg daily for 6 years. This extreme lack of energy and motivation is what is my worst part. I barely want to get up out of a recliner to let my 3 labs outside in the backyard. I'm really struggling here and I have no clue why but I'm crying as I type...
jennifer vinson hey hey heeeey jennifer i am not far away i am on day 34 and i have been through that same ting ofcoZ you are feeling the difference already if not this is nature taling it’s course all you need to do is let it do that and force your self and that amazing brain of yours release the dopamine that has been blocked away long ago by the drugs good luck
@@darqo9 thanks for replying ;) its day 18 now & I'm still feeling overall blah but it's not as bad today. It's definitely a change and my body rebooting itself back naturally but no war is ever easy!
Do you get sneezy too with your irrational crying? I get that but only when im withdrawling pretty good. I know everyone is different, just curious. Ive gotten all sneezy and of course very depressed and being a guy can't control an urge to cry at times completely unprovoked. Its kinda strange but above all really sucks!
@@tappytibbon927 I have rapid sneezing spells of out no where. I sneeze about 8 times back to back then stop but it happens about 10 times a day LOL it's so annoying. I'm on day 23 now and I have to say, the crying hasn't happened lately. I'm a stay at home pet parent so it's me & my 3 dogs & 2 cats from about 5am till my husband gets home from work about 8p so I'm stuck in a house all day and I know it doesn't help much with mood. But overall everything's good besides my still lack of energy. But its definitely better than what is was 2 weeks ago!
@@jenniferv618 idk how this will go over but i like small doses of adderall to help with the unmotivation and feeling blah! Like no more than 10 mgs a day, and to me i split it in half. Eating is super important and adderall can mess with that... its a battle! Once you find yourself in that position you have to do what you can to function or take some time outta life to heal yourself. I have to work 50 hrs a week, and there's kids, i can't take time to recover. Adderall in small amounts helps with the energy levels and then if need be i have trazadones to help sleep. Trazadone works well for me but we're all diferent. Best of luck to you Jennifer!
People downplay wd so they can justify there continued use of it.
Day 39 walked off 29 mg mmt. The paws is so hard. You just want it to end. Just to be normal
No easy way through it. Day 22 and still going ,,,, 20 years of opioid use. Mushroom 🍄 helped me. FYI
It's where I failed the last time. I actually got through withdrawal and finally slept for like 10 hours a night after a month or so of withdrawal. Then I got to month 3 and boom. Im someone who has loved lifting since I was a teen. After 3 months I couldn't find the motivation to train or even make a meal. I wished I talked to someone and even found cbd or whatever. I just said fuck it and of course I had the you idiot moments. You now have to go through it all over again. To someone who doesn't know it's weeks and and weeks of agony and wanting to sleep so bad yet you can't. Then it fades and your brain isn't healed, no motivation, no energy. Going through it, seconds are days. It's a different kind of fatigue and no motivation. I know pre use what normal fatigue or not being in the mood feels like, it's different. The fatigue is like not having the energy to take a piss and the no motivation is not feeling like making a meal or even walking to the car. It's scary. I wish I saw it for what it was. By month 3-4 it was dead of winter and nothing to do. I should have talked to someone and looked for answers. I should have been like ok I don't want to lift, it's not gonna happen right now and went for walks, and say ok I'm tired but give it more time. I'm sure this is common. You finally actually get that far and blow it. I can't believe I got through it with my wife here and at the time a toddler. I don't know how the hell I did it. I laugh at how strong I can be. I need to realize it. oh well I can't go back. I went to a Dr and went on Suboxone. Before I did I said listen don't bs is it possible to do this right and stay with me along the way. She said I promise you we can get you off of this and we can very slowly and be there after as well. I always tried jumping off at high doses and suffered. They said my mindset is good. She said she has gotten people off before and they had my mindset. I want to use it as a stepping stone not something for life. No way. That's my reason for living. When I'm on my deathbed I want to look back and say I did it. I have other goals family wise but my ultimate personal goal is this
Andrew Colvin Thanks for sharing that! It will help a lot of people
AnDy c widrawal from what drugs were you taking before you had widrawal?jus asking bacause im
On marijuana widrawal at the moment 43 days have gone...
@@michaeldenniscruz I originally had a roxycodone and opana habit. I quit those. The withdrawal was harsh psychically. Hurt like hell and then I felt normal again. Idiot me started using pills again so I unknowingly started Suboxone. Not knowing what half life was and basically how it worked. I went through withdrawal from that. It wouldn't end. So I started taking kratom and for 3 years. When I quit that it was so similar to Suboxone withdrawal. Exactly but the depression was worse. I blew it tho. I absolutely blew it. My sister came into town and gave me Xanax. I started using kratom again lol. So dumb. Then I went back on Suboxone. Some laugh at marijuana withdrawal but everyone goes through their own struggles. If you struggle with it then there's no shame.
@@michaeldenniscruz what's it like by the way? I know it's rare. You must have been a heavy long term user
AnDy c yeah but marijuana widrawal is different from what you are taking,marijuana according to my researched it take 1-2months i guesss depends on how how long youve been smoking...but it can heal overtime...for me its getting better everyday,yours i think is a proper drugs...just waiting for my brain to reset...
can withdrawls cause burning sensations in your body?
Yess.. I had a burning sensation from quitting benzos (ativan) it was due to high levels of anxiety from withdrawal and my body going into fight or flight
@@carolynrlee-mincey968 where did you get the burning sensations?
A little bit EVERYWHERE.. especially on my head face arms hands and legs.. then I went through a few days of waking up with a sensation of pins and needles in my hands and feet and a tingling switching sensation on my face.. now it's been 2 months and I'm having these vibrations and movement in my brain and throughout my body but it's really not visible.. BENZOS ARE DANGEROUS AND NOBODY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE THEM!!
Also I've had blurred vision and head fog that started 3 days after I quit the ativan/prozac and it's still like that most days.. the burning sensation WILL PASS!! ITS YOUR BODIES WAY OF FIGHT OR FLIGHT.. YOUR BRAIN IS PANICKING BC IT DOESNT HAVE THAT SUBSTANCE ANYMORE.. TAKE BENEDRYL IT HELPED ME GET PAST IT.. What were you taking? Did you quit cold turkey?
Just remember to relax.. IT WILL PASS BUT IF YOUR BODY CAN HANDLE BENDRYL THEN TRY JUST ONE AND SEE HOW IT AFFECTS YOU
Can you still get tremors/shakes during PAWS? 2 months since I had my last drink and my hands still tremble :(
Try a beta blocker. I take them for Essential Tremor. They work brilliantly. Your DR should give you these I'm sure:)
I'm having internal vibrations in my brain and through my chest and body.. they come in waves.. what can I do to make them stop.. I quit ativan and prozac cold turkey
Doc Park, can Naltrexone help with PAWS? I understand what Naltrexone does, but I was wondering if the blocking effects of the medication help to ease PAWS. My goal is to end up on Naltrexone sometime next year.
Jamey Summers Naltrexone can definitely help with some of the cravings.
YES it stops your need to want or take opitates -- get on this ASAP if needed, saves a lot of lives
Epic advice.
Great info
Hey thanks!
Best advice ever: 3:35
does it go for weed as well ? and how long can it last for it
Yes it goes for reefer, in a huge way. I am 19 months off and still in PAWS. Go to an uncommonforum.com and click on addiction. You will see a tone of info and a ton of support. Good luck and hang in there, it's worth it.
@@susieq9341 how are you now susie?
@@MrJeng300 Doing a lot better! I will have 2 years sober, on Jan 8th. I feel like I'm past PAWS for now, but I also also know that it can rear it's ugly head at any point. Considering I smoked weed on and off for 40 years. I was not a heavy drinker, but I quit that as well 2 years ago. Very grateful, thanks for asking :)
@@susieq9341 That is so great to hear. I am actually 800 days clean today and the fog is slowly lifting, although I feel like I need 3 full years to truly feel recovered. It is much better these days though.
Been off for 5 years . It's allot better but I'm still not the same person I was before the benzo. And I didn't have any panic, anxiety or anything like that before the drug . I took it by mistake from a person with an unmarked bottle that told me they were something else .was dependent in less than 2 weeks
That sucks. But I'm glad you're free from it now.
Niacin and high dose C and Acetyl L Carnitine all can help in thepost accute.
Thanks I havexPaws and am suffering terribly. Sleepless nights Pain
Drink 2 cups of mint tea at night, that sorts the sleep problems out, in the morning take lemon water with a vit D3, and you will get through it, all the best
Okay, I'll get up and exercise. I'm on Belbuca film because I lost my leg at my hip and have constant shocking pain that make me cry also I have strong pins and needle pains. I learned about ice packs and that helps. I'm reading your book also.
If in BAD wd take high doses of drinks or vit c .juicing lettuce calms the nervous system and helps with sleep.sounds simple but just try it.
What are your thoughts on Bupropion for paws for suboxone?
Chongo I use it all the time
Your on point DOC” ☝️love from 🇬🇧
Foundation is the hard bit. -
Welcome to the real world! People don't sleep! People are tired all the time! Later... Maybe you need exercise, maybe you just need a good sleep? How? When it is normal to be exhausted all the time? :) People are NOT sleepless and tired in general. It would be quickly done with society if this was a general rule.
Weirdly I can't watch people that drink coffee while making videos. Just like I can't listen to people drinking coffee over the phone or even worse, vaping over the phone!
Haha.
If you ever prescribed suboxone you’re the devil
Not related but that other person is right, you do have beautiful eyes
Does everyone get PAWS ?