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Yup and sending Chad to a camp. Making the kids buy back their own possessions. Taking the bedroom from Chad and making him sleep on a beanbag. Taking the bathroom door apparently. I mean, any normal person should have known this was all wrong by common sense. He obviously doesn’t have it.
What he agreed to is unquestionably wrong. But I honestly think his actions may have been a product of A:, an overly domineering partner, B: a passive personality and C: a social group (his church) telling him to follow those aggressive rules. Remember, Jody was involved in their lives for a long time before this. Their entire family saw her for many different reasons before this. And, his church thought extremely highly of Jody already! It's easy for a passive person to be manipulated into believing that their way is the right way.. expecially when the person telling you to do things that way is a person highly respected by your church who is a PROFESSIONAL in mental health! I feel bad for the guy honestly!
He’s just trying to save face by distancing himself. It took many years to develop the mentality and dynamic that lead to the events that occurred. Either way, “ignorance” is not innocence.
He didn't just enable. HE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED!! Come on!! He wasn't "gone" for a year. And even before he was "gone" HE LIVED WITH HER AND HELPED HER!!
At least for the Jodi Hildebrandt stuff, he was brainwashed and blamed for everything like all the other husbands. But before all of that with the vlogs and how he would just stand by is a big problem and he needs to be held responsible
Exactly! He was genuinely upset when the cops told him that her couldn't get his daughter charged with burglary, refusing to accept that she couldn't be charged.
Because I am 100% sure Shari made hard copies of all the documents that were on the laptops and ipads… and THAT is why he is angry… because he knows he is complicit and Shari would do anything to help her siblings and would drag him down with Rubi as well.
This is a transparent attempt for Kevin to divert public attention and culpability away from himself. I hope prosecutors don't fall for it and charge him with neglect.
His indifference to their kids well being has him just as morally liable as she is. Him cutting and running now that the heat is on is expected and not surprising, considering he's been absent for over a year already.
Utahn here. This father didn’t do his job and is just as culpable as the mom. Now he’s has the audacity to try to get the government to fix his problems.
That monster talks about how her kids should have time, space and motive to serve her. As she made them go without food. Without bedrooms. Without love. A horror of a hypocrite.
That caught my attention too. Did any parents out there make your 5-6 year olds pack their own school lunch and if they didn't they went hungry. That's sick IMO!
@@sapodilla25How hard would it have been to put a basin or a bucket beside the bed? It clearly wasn't laziness. I really do think that she chose that method to get more views for her sadism.
@@LaurieFloodTeacher I know, she's the worst. Sick children no matter what age need warm cosy beds with teddies and kittens and hot soup, not chucking a sleeping bag next to a cold toilet and sleeping there. She's gross.
Literally no one believes he’s a good person, we’ve seen the videos. Complacency and compliant through everything and supported every step. He doesn’t deserve the title of “father”.
His eldest daughter agrees completely. Last Father's day she made a public post about fathers day but made no mention of her "father". Making it clear that they were estranged. His desire to get her charged with burglary even AFTER a cop explained that she couldn't be charged with burglary, he said "I'll have to do more research on that".
@@60toodlesdude I used to watch their videos growing up, the guy complied to his wife withholding food from his children, he complied with taking the kids doors off, he complied with his kid sleeping on a beanbag for months at a time, he just smiled in the videos. He even has a video sending Chad off alone to Mormon camp in the woods for weeks just because he pranked his little brother. This is all public evidence that they recorded. You really believe the guy never knew about the welfare of his children 6 kids that he’s been with since birth. The only reason they’re not pinning him right now is because they wiped all their footage. Enablers are just as much of the problem as the abuser.
The Dad is still a lousy abusive father - trying to use this situation to his advantage- he should never get those children back either. He was abusive prior to his departure from that house & is still dangerous to those children.
Are you over compensating as a new StepDad? The people responsible for not allowing anyone to “pull this” with your Stepdaughter is none other than her biological parents. But good for you for having the best of intentions…
May you have the best experience as a new step-father. My parents split just before I turned 1yrs old in 1972. I saw my father very Sunday. Then my mom re1married on my 2nd birthday. David at first was my step-dad but immediately became my Dad. I had the best of both worlds. A few times I thought for a brief moment it would be nice to have my mother & father be married but I would lose my DAD. My dream was to have both my dads walk me down the aisle when I married in 1999, but that dream shattered when my Dad died of a major heart attack in 1983 at 41yrs old. I could still “feel” him around me ( I am very intuitive ) sometimes especially the night b4 the wedding. I could smell him for an hr in my bedroom. My father moved to Phoenix from Northern Illinois the year after my dad died which made it worse for me. In a way I lost both my dads in a 10 month period. I would see my father every Summer and sometimes during Winter or Spring break. He is my best friend. My mom remarried when I was 17. My step-dad Bill was 28 & mom was 40. They were married for 25yrs when she died 8yrs ago. Bill is still my step-dad. Enjoy this new chapter in your life!
Dude….his kids were his responsibility. He wants to blame Utah, Jodi, Ruby etc. Just accept your own culpability. This guy seems, imho, not a nice guy.
May Kevin get the same Justice as Ruby and Jodi. Love how he’s pretending to advocate for the licensing of a life coach. It’s probably the only thing he’s done right in his life. He needs help too. 🤦🏻♀️
I watched this lady for years. And all her siblings. I was on the gossip boards back then and we pointed out all the crazy Ruby stuff…but never in my wildest dreams did I expect it to play out like this. Like I knew she was nutty and would make it on the show Worlds Strictest Parents…but this is so beyond horrific. The stark contrast between her crimes and the amazing do-it-all super mom persona she portrayed is really fascinating. She wanted to be UA-cam famous, and a top Mormon influencer- now she’ll be remembered her as some lunatic who got sucked into a crazy cult and tied up her kids. Just sad. I hope the kids find safety and healing, far away from cameras.
She was a horrific mother long before Jody came along!! She took her son's room from him for 8 months and I'm pretty sure that happened before Jody.. She is a child abuser and serious control freak!! 🤨
I had a "life coach" a few years ago. She never helped me in any way. Once she found out I was a lesbian, she became fixated on that. She was extremely unsupportive and tried to make our meetings about that. She told me it was wrong, etc. I stopped seeing her and reported her. From my understanding not much was done. This needs so much more regulation. Too many crazies and bad people out there.
I’m sorry you had that lousy experience, and I’m super impressed that did the right thing for all clients that came after you and you reported her. Most people don’t report abusive clinicians/doctors/nurses/teachers/scout leaders/etc and they just continue to get away with their less than stellar behavior. I’m proud of you for stepping up!! 🥇
My gosh! I’m sorry you had that experience. There are some crazies, but there are some real good ones as well! I hope you stay strong and know you are loved!
There is no way in the WORLD, he could have known nothing about any of this while living in the same household for all these years. He has no interest in anything other than putting distance between himself and those hideous child abusers.
I can't say it enough....this church needs to be held accountable as well ! They knew what was going on with Jodie's teachings and obviously were just fine with it. Remember the church paid and recommended her to many of the members.
Hence why the cops and cps did nothing to help the children. Even after finding them alone at home. The cops just left knowing they'd been left alone for days.
He may not have had any idea what was going on at Jodi's house, but he knew what Ruby did for years at their house. He supported her horrific behavior at their house. This is only to save face and get custody of the kids and perhaps save his job. Neither of which I believe he deserves. Those poor kids have been traumatized for years. The intense therapy they will need is unreal. They're all so young and have had their minds shaped into that craziness. Plus the pure betrayal of their parents is enough to drive any child crazy. I feel so sad for those kids.
Oh come on. He was totally complicit with the disciplinary tactics used in the home for years as shown in 8 passengers. Admittedly, things went even further South with Hildibrandt. Seems like he is making every effort to protect himself - the whole you tube presence was narcissistic. Can’t wait to hear how he figures in. At least something good might come out of this.
He's going to be the dad whose adult children want nothing to do with him. At some point they will realize how complicit and negligent he was, and he will be completely alone, no family, no enjoying being a grandparent, and they will feel indifferent when he dies.
He deserves punishment, too. He had a duty to those kids and he allowed all of this, allowed her to chase him away for a year, didn’t contact the kids etc. He is no saint, he is liable, too. It’s disgusting if he gets no punishment for it.
He also knew of and supported the withholding of food as a punishment for several yrs. So he is in no way innocent or naive to what his kids had to endure.
Obviously a very weak spineless man. No loving good strong husband and father would allow his wife to kick him out of their home, neglect his children while away, and not talk to any of them; let alone listen to another wack job supposed counselor, who was hanging out with his wife more than he was! Quite fishy.
It took arrests and a loooot of public pressure. He wasn't talking to his kids because he didn't want to risk Ruby divorcing him, so he chose to turn a blind eye. He already was aware and supported withholding food as a punishment for several yrs before Jodi manipulated Ruby to him kicked out.
I know this behavior is Jodi's MO but I just wonder if Jodi and Ruby became more than just business partners and partners in crime and meanness? Am I the only one that thinks they look a little more cozier than "partners"? All of this mess is just mind boggling. Thank God most of us had a Mom that wanted us to eat and would have never in a million years thought about withholding food from me or one of my siblings as a punishment, maybe dessert but never the main course. I feel so bad for these children and I hope they don't have long lasting issues especially with food. It'll be interesting to see what Ruby and Jodi look like at the next hearing having had to live without all their beauty regime for months and months. Lori Vallow Daybell didn't hold up so well in that department.@@crystalhazer7246
Wouldn't be surprised if she told him to file for divorce in order to obtain custody of the kids and to ensure her sadistic parenting style continues in her absence should she go to jail....
This isn’t a surprise. He is smart enough to know Ruby is going to face hard time. However he is guilty in all this too and wants to play victim. When Shari distanced herself from both parents that said all you needed to know. Both are failures as parents.
@@rachaelharper3778he didn't speak to his children for a solid yr because he didn't want to divorce her. So him taking that step now shows that it's only for his image and desire to appear innocent. He doesn't care about his kids and doesn't want to get a divorce.
Yep he wouldn't of tried getting his oldest child arrested just for helping her siblings get their things if he truly cared for his kids. Some of the kids might not realize this now, but they will when they're older and they won't want anything to do with him.
And this is the "Dad" questioning why his eldest daught "wasnt" arrested? Kevin, you are NO better than Your wife and her Secret lover! Sorry for my typo there
I can't understand how he had no idea what was going on.... it wasnt like these were isolated incidents, they were consistent and endured for a long period of time.... makes me sick that he isnt in jail too... please explain how he didnt know...
I can’t believe that anyone would be surprised that her hubby is doing all of this. It is a good “play” for a man trying to get his kids back. Hopefully he doesn’t. He still communicates with his wife and that’s enough to argue that he’d be bringing his children around their abuser. That’s not right. Hopefully people finally step up for these kids.
Licensed therapist here! I’ve never heard such a bunch of crap in my 40 yrs of practice. Distortion? Torturing and starving children is a crime. Period.
I don’t trust the father….he is doing this on advice from his lawyer & an ok from Ruby, his wife. He wants custody of the kids hoping loving wife will be back.
Because you're not an attorney and you don't understand it was a legal move. He wants custody, he wants distance between her acts, and his attorney advised him to do this. Purely a legal move.
@@krazyk8592 yup. That's why the gilgo beach murderers wife immediately divorced him when the news came out. Sure there's half the reason of maybe she believes it and wanted to be divorced but secondly she didn't want to go down with him. I'm sure lawyers advise divorce asap for some kind of financial gain to at least get half of finances through divorce rather than nothing or not have to testify ect.
OMG, an expectation for a SMALL child to be "managing time & space" is unrealistic! This type of "parenting" is stressful and damaging to a child! Example- holding her small child accountable for not making her make her own lunch for school is damaging to a child in many ways. I pray that all of these children are placed in a home full of love and stability and let these kids be kids and not punish them for doing so
She also threatened to cut the head off her teddy bear. I understand it's just a teddy but that made me sick. You don't take a child's emotional support teddy or blankie and threaten to destroy it. I mean maybe I've been brought up being allowed to enjoy my childish toys but at age 6 it would have traumatised me forever if my own mother destroyed my toys on purpose.
I bet he did, but he didn't protect those children either. I don't know enough, but from what I do know I'm not confident that he should have custody either. Those poor kids.
dont be a complete piece of garbage. he had concerns and was told that he needs to do what ruby says when she says it in order to get access to his children back
You literally just said you don’t know enough, but continued with he should not have custody of the children. Jodi request that all partners separate. He did not leave the family he was forced to move out just like many of the other husbands. We must all keep in mind Jodi was recommended by the church, and Mormons are highly brainwashed. In my opinion, the church should be involved in all of this mess as key player 1. and Jodi has key player 1.a
Hubby is just protecting himself from legal and financial ruin. He needed to step in years ago. He tossed the older daughter to the side when she was sounding the alarm.
OMG YES!!!! As someone who is LICENSED in the state of Utah to do marriage and family therapy- I really hope they freaking pass something to limit people who are coaches and try to give advice like this!! Absolutely ridiculous it hasn’t been done sooner.
He's no better than his wife. When people were complaining about the way he and his wife were treating the kids he made a video telling people if they didn't like it then don't watch their show. He's only divorcing his wife because he thinks he'll have a better shot at getting custody of his kids. If he would have bothered checking on his kids he would have known what was going on, he didn't care to look in on them for an entire year.
I love watching the damage control. Everything with these people is so performative. If he was divorcing Ruby out of indignation for what she was doing/allowing to happen to their children he would've started proceedings pretty quickly, not months down the line.
Kevin is just as guilty as Ruby. He was an active participant in this cruel behavior. He needs to be arrested as well. As a grandma, where were here parents for all these years? So sad for those kids.
Difference between 'life coaches' and family/friends giving advice is (1) no money exchanges hands with family /friends (2) life coach is a renumerated job (3) family are not solicitating clients. This shouldnt be too fifficult to craft the legislative wording.
Nice to see Kevin do some standup things regarding Jodi’s business which was unregulated. I also understand why his marriage is over. Now some old business needs to be acknowledged. We have seen enough video evidence that shows his support for the extreme treatment of their children prior to their connection with Jodi H. He should come clean on that because he could have protected his kids. Instead, he supported his wife in repeated brutal treatment of their children. I am thinking of his support for sending Chad to the horrible, life-threatening camp for several weeks. So Kevin, it is good of you to attempt to make changes in the laws related to counselors ( a la ConneXions). The divorce is understandable. He was lied to by Ruby and made to feel emasculated due to Ruby’s apparent fondness of Jodi. However, Ruby was a disaster in the making prior to Jodi H. coming on the scene. Once Ruby was manipulated enough by Jodi, she just ignored her kids, leaving them alone in their house for days or weeks at a time. The two youngest were tortured by Jodi and it looks like Ruby was in full support. Kevin may not have seen the extreme measures taken by Jodi and Ruby against his kids, which ended with the young boy escaping the house and asking a neighbor for help. I do wonder what Kevin would have done had he seen just how severe the “punishments” got the day the 12 year old was able to get help. It is pretty clear that this boy was near death. All of them are culpable. Jodi has a history of torturing her niece. She has a history of breaking up families. The LDS Church bears responsibility her also, since they referred members to Jodi even after her license had been suspended for over a year at one time. Get them all!
Things you do When your money train is coming to an end. What a clown if he thinks he’s innocent. He knew what was going on and chose to remain silent.
"Therefore, there are no standards for the industry" YAH! And LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!! I left UT a year and a half ago and am truly shocked at how a "family" state is the most messed up people I've ever had to live around. Hypocrisy and image is all that they do.
Not everyone in Utah is like these crazy Mormon families and not all Mormon families are crazy. I'm not Mormon, but was raised in one. And I've lived in Utah all my life. I know many many people and families who are completely normal and down to earth.
He was apart of the raisin and discipline of the kids all of their lives…KNEW how she was and allowed it….. HE should have charges as well in my opinion….. sayin he wasn’t allowed to see the kids in the last year??? If he was a father, he would have DEMANDED to see them…. Sad ecuse for a parent.
I think a bigger problem than unlicenced life coaches is the fact that Jody didn't lose her therapy licence a long time ago considering the amount of serious complaints there were about her.. Perhaps if she had maybe she wouldn't have been recommended by the church. At the very least her losing her licence is something that would have come up if anyone did research on her. I think Kevin should be less concerned with his marriage coming to an end than the influence she had on making their already terrible parenting into someghing even worse. If they were such good parents then how could they be influenced into implementing Jody's methods of parenting, which included duct tape and rope. Kevin seems to lack any self awareness and he's in denial about his complicity. I think he should be charged himself. I think this is just deflection and minimisation. I don't think he should have custody of the kids.
Just reading the title to this video in my video feed made me laugh! It took kevin THIS long to figure out he ought to end this sham of a marriage. He's really not very smart at all. I have no sympathy for any of the adults in this wretched fiasco.
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@@hanselmansell7555Exactly. It gets so old. 🙄
I know he wants us to believe he had no part in the latest parenting tragedy but he supported withholding food as punishment.
Yup and sending Chad to a camp. Making the kids buy back their own possessions. Taking the bedroom from Chad and making him sleep on a beanbag. Taking the bathroom door apparently. I mean, any normal person should have known this was all wrong by common sense. He obviously doesn’t have it.
as well as beds, bathroom doors, etc
Don't forget that he knew full well how abusive Ruby was and yet he didn't check in on the kids for over a year.
What he agreed to is unquestionably wrong. But I honestly think his actions may have been a product of A:, an overly domineering partner, B: a passive personality and C: a social group (his church) telling him to follow those aggressive rules. Remember, Jody was involved in their lives for a long time before this. Their entire family saw her for many different reasons before this. And, his church thought extremely highly of Jody already! It's easy for a passive person to be manipulated into believing that their way is the right way.. expecially when the person telling you to do things that way is a person highly respected by your church who is a PROFESSIONAL in mental health! I feel bad for the guy honestly!
@@MishaThePolly_Therian check out his rate my professor ratings before Ruby was even arrested. He seems like he was very militant even there.
But Kevin wanted his daughter charged with burglary. They’re both nuts. Those poor children.
Right! Kevin isn’t innocent in everything like his attorney wants us to believe. They were militant parents before they met Jodi.
welcome to utah
The clips at the beginning makes me wonder how anyone could listen to their "counseling". It all sounded like a bunch of word salad and hogwash.
Same thing I thought. He's getting a divorce thinking that the negative harassment will dissappear. Lol
@@rockyroad7345someone from Utah
He’s just trying to save face by distancing himself. It took many years to develop the mentality and dynamic that lead to the events that occurred. Either way, “ignorance” is not innocence.
'Willful' ignorance! He's such a tool!
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Not even basic ignorance, willful ignorance. That's SO much worse - _choosing_ to WANT to know nothing.
Does Kevin still work at The University of Utah?? Hope he was FIRED ..
I love how enablers NEVER think they are part of the problem.
He didn't just enable. HE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED!! Come on!! He wasn't "gone" for a year. And even before he was "gone" HE LIVED WITH HER AND HELPED HER!!
Thats narcissists
@@jessicapearson9479heck yes hes next
He wasn't only an enabler, he was a participant.
He basically abandoned his kids even knowing what was going on
Kevin is backpedaling so he doesn’t get charged himself. The man was ok with his wife’s behaviour for years
Or he wasn't ok with his wife's behaviour - he just didn't have a backbone to stand up against her.
At least for the Jodi Hildebrandt stuff, he was brainwashed and blamed for everything like all the other husbands. But before all of that with the vlogs and how he would just stand by is a big problem and he needs to be held responsible
@@A-t-r-u-seither way he’s complicit
He evidently went along with the ideas of that sycho therapist to leave their home and their kids! Who does that?
@@elainekoop4651 you clearly haven’t followed the case if you believe that
He needs to be investigated and charged too. Weak man. I hope he doesn't get the children.
He was complicit.....also, now attempting to escape his neglect.....unacceptable and unbelievable!!
💯 He should get the same sentence as those two crazy women.
He wants to distance himself so he doesn’t have to take any responsibility.
A bit to late I reckon cos of the vid evidence
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I worry that in his state, this might work.
Him filing for divorce might help with custody in the family court case
@@jazzymidear3466 he should never get custody of the kids. He abandoned them and then wanted to press charges against his daughter. No just no
Trying to send your daughter to jail is not making him look so innocent 😡
Exactly! He was genuinely upset when the cops told him that her couldn't get his daughter charged with burglary, refusing to accept that she couldn't be charged.
I’m sure Ruby told him to do this as well…
Because I am 100% sure Shari made hard copies of all the documents that were on the laptops and ipads… and THAT is why he is angry… because he knows he is complicit and Shari would do anything to help her siblings and would drag him down with Rubi as well.
Horrible!!
Amazing father, isn't he? 🤦♀️
This is a transparent attempt for Kevin to divert public attention and culpability away from himself. I hope prosecutors don't fall for it and charge him with neglect.
Yep. That was my first thought too.
Aaand under the bus she goes! Conveniently timed.
Me too
His indifference to their kids well being has him just as morally liable as she is. Him cutting and running now that the heat is on is expected and not surprising, considering he's been absent for over a year already.
My thoughts exactly! "save yourself"
Yep
He was involved and in many of Ruby's videos as a parenting partner. Now he and his lawyer are pleading ignorance? Whatever you say.
He’s a runner and a punk
No one is telling me to stay away from my kids. EVER!
He needs to petition his church to stop recommending counseling by unsafe "clergy" and counselors.
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Utahn here. This father didn’t do his job and is just as culpable as the mom. Now he’s has the audacity to try to get the government to fix his problems.
I agree 100%. This guy is diverting attention away from him. It is tactical. He is a deceptive, calculating monster.
When you see people trying extra hard to portray themselves as a"perfect family" you know something is amiss below the surface
Kevin is 110% just as guilty as Ruby is.. I hope he isn't even given visitation...
He’s only doing that to try and get the kids. I hope he doesn’t get them back
I hope they lock him up.
Seriously! Does he believe filing for divorce exonerates him?
I think he does.
The father should also be charged for neglect and more! Where was he while the kids were being mistreated?!
At the very least child abandonment
That monster talks about how her kids should have time, space and motive to serve her. As she made them go without food. Without bedrooms. Without love. A horror of a hypocrite.
That caught my attention too. Did any parents out there make your 5-6 year olds pack their own school lunch and if they didn't they went hungry. That's sick IMO!
She's a nutter
She made her kids sleep in the bathroom next to the toilet when they were sick. Even the littlest ones.
@@sapodilla25How hard would it have been to put a basin or a bucket beside the bed? It clearly wasn't laziness. I really do think that she chose that method to get more views for her sadism.
@@LaurieFloodTeacher I know, she's the worst. Sick children no matter what age need warm cosy beds with teddies and kittens and hot soup, not chucking a sleeping bag next to a cold toilet and sleeping there. She's gross.
Literally no one believes he’s a good person, we’ve seen the videos. Complacency and compliant through everything and supported every step. He doesn’t deserve the title of “father”.
His eldest daughter agrees completely. Last Father's day she made a public post about fathers day but made no mention of her "father". Making it clear that they were estranged.
His desire to get her charged with burglary even AFTER a cop explained that she couldn't be charged with burglary, he said "I'll have to do more research on that".
you're wrong because I do. 'literally'. Don't speak for everyone else and don't judge without having any inside information or evidence.
@@60toodlesdude I used to watch their videos growing up, the guy complied to his wife withholding food from his children, he complied with taking the kids doors off, he complied with his kid sleeping on a beanbag for months at a time, he just smiled in the videos. He even has a video sending Chad off alone to Mormon camp in the woods for weeks just because he pranked his little brother. This is all public evidence that they recorded. You really believe the guy never knew about the welfare of his children 6 kids that he’s been with since birth. The only reason they’re not pinning him right now is because they wiped all their footage. Enablers are just as much of the problem as the abuser.
@@60toodlesmore fool you then
@@60toodles blink twice if Kevin made you write this lmao
Bets on this being Kevin Franke's attempt to distance himself even further from potential responsibility in all of this???
The Dad is still a lousy abusive father - trying to use this situation to his advantage- he should never get those children back either. He was abusive prior to his departure from that house & is still dangerous to those children.
Im a new stepdad, but i could never imagine harming or allowing anyone to pull this with my stepdaughter...
I am not a parent of any kind and don’t particularly enjoy being around kids (in general) and I wouldn’t allow this in my vicinity.
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Are you over compensating as a new StepDad? The people responsible for not allowing anyone to “pull this” with your Stepdaughter is none other than her biological parents.
But good for you for having the best of intentions…
Good Dads are Hard to find now days..I believe Family first..Good Luck..❤
May you have the best experience as a new step-father.
My parents split just before I turned 1yrs old in 1972. I saw my father very Sunday. Then my mom re1married on my 2nd birthday. David at first was my step-dad but immediately became my Dad. I had the best of both worlds. A few times I thought for a brief moment it would be nice to have my mother & father be married but I would lose my DAD. My dream was to have both my dads walk me down the aisle when I married in 1999, but that dream shattered when my Dad died of a major heart attack in 1983 at 41yrs old. I could still “feel” him around me ( I am very intuitive ) sometimes especially the night b4 the wedding. I could smell him for an hr in my bedroom.
My father moved to Phoenix from Northern Illinois the year after my dad died which made it worse for me. In a way I lost both my dads in a 10 month period. I would see my father every Summer and sometimes during Winter or Spring break. He is my best friend. My mom remarried when I was 17. My step-dad Bill was 28 & mom was 40. They were married for 25yrs when she died 8yrs ago. Bill is still my step-dad.
Enjoy this new chapter in your life!
Dude….his kids were his responsibility. He wants to blame Utah, Jodi, Ruby etc. Just accept your own culpability. This guy seems, imho, not a nice guy.
Totally agree.
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If he knew, he should be arrested, too. Do we all believe he didn't know anything? I mean, do _you_ all believe it? Cause I don't. He knew.
He knew!
Even if he DIDN'T know what was happening to his kids for over a year, that in itself is still a major problem!
He knew something. It’s not like Ruby changed the moment she kicked him out. He is at fault for condoning her actions when he still lived at home.
There were yrs of withholding food as a punishment well before Jodi came into their lives. He was aware and supportive of that neglectful behavior.
Mothers are criminally punished harsher than fathers. In all justice systems.
these two have been in jail for 3 months without bond...wonder how they are feeling now that they have no privacy and no control over their lives.
They're probably in distortion
He had to save face somehow. What an absolute joke and shame he is as a father.
No matter what he does to look like a proactive protective dad he still doesn’t need to have custody of those kids. He’s complicit
The trouble is that if both parents are restricted from their kids, the kids might go into state care, and that's a whole other bucket of worms.
@@barbh1no, they have lots of family to take the kids in
May Kevin get the same Justice as Ruby and Jodi. Love how he’s pretending to advocate for the licensing of a life coach. It’s probably the only thing he’s done right in his life. He needs help too. 🤦🏻♀️
Exactly.
Women are held to a higher standard.
@@snicksabeawhat do you mean?
he knew very well what was going on and
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I don’t care how much Kevin tries to do, DO NOT GIVE HIM FULL CUSTODY
I watched this lady for years. And all her siblings. I was on the gossip boards back then and we pointed out all the crazy Ruby stuff…but never in my wildest dreams did I expect it to play out like this. Like I knew she was nutty and would make it on the show Worlds Strictest Parents…but this is so beyond horrific. The stark contrast between her crimes and the amazing do-it-all super mom persona she portrayed is really fascinating. She wanted to be UA-cam famous, and a top Mormon influencer- now she’ll be remembered her as some lunatic who got sucked into a crazy cult and tied up her kids. Just sad. I hope the kids find safety and healing, far away from cameras.
I was following it for the last couple years also, but goodness nobody thought it could possibly be that horrible. It is beyond horrible.
Bonnie is just like Ruby.. Only difference is Bonnie is always crying and playing the VICTIM card..
How? She's so cringy! I never understood how/why people watched her😕
people watched her channel to talk 💩 about her. Lol
She was a horrific mother long before Jody came along!! She took her son's room from him for 8 months and I'm pretty sure that happened before Jody.. She is a child abuser and serious control freak!! 🤨
I had a "life coach" a few years ago. She never helped me in any way. Once she found out I was a lesbian, she became fixated on that. She was extremely unsupportive and tried to make our meetings about that. She told me it was wrong, etc. I stopped seeing her and reported her. From my understanding not much was done. This needs so much more regulation. Too many crazies and bad people out there.
I'm very sorry this happened and hope she faced real consequences... and karma.
Take care.
"Iife coach"... most are single or divorced with the only success is running scams on people...
I’m sorry you had that lousy experience, and I’m super impressed that did the right thing for all clients that came after you and you reported her. Most people don’t report abusive clinicians/doctors/nurses/teachers/scout leaders/etc and they just continue to get away with their less than stellar behavior. I’m proud of you for stepping up!! 🥇
My gosh! I’m sorry you had that experience. There are some crazies, but there are some real good ones as well! I hope you stay strong and know you are loved!
There is no licensing for "life coaches"; to whom did you report her?
There is no way in the WORLD, he could have known nothing about any of this while living in the same household for all these years. He has no interest in anything other than putting distance between himself and those hideous child abusers.
Boy, the husband sounds as bad as his wife. How he treated his older daughter when this blew up was very concerning.
I can't say it enough....this church needs to be held accountable as well ! They knew what was going on with Jodie's teachings and obviously were just fine with it. Remember the church paid and recommended her to many of the members.
Unfortunately not going to happen. The Mormon church is too rich and powerful in Utah. They own the legislature, and are run by lawyers.
Hence why the cops and cps did nothing to help the children. Even after finding them alone at home. The cops just left knowing they'd been left alone for days.
Isn’t the Mormon church 2 billion liquid?
He may not have had any idea what was going on at Jodi's house, but he knew what Ruby did for years at their house. He supported her horrific behavior at their house. This is only to save face and get custody of the kids and perhaps save his job. Neither of which I believe he deserves. Those poor kids have been traumatized for years. The intense therapy they will need is unreal. They're all so young and have had their minds shaped into that craziness. Plus the pure betrayal of their parents is enough to drive any child crazy. I feel so sad for those kids.
exactly
Too little too late. He is just trying to distance himself after being complicit in her actions for years.
Oh come on. He was totally complicit with the disciplinary tactics used in the home for years as shown in 8 passengers. Admittedly, things went even further South with Hildibrandt. Seems like he is making every effort to protect himself - the whole you tube presence was narcissistic. Can’t wait to hear how he figures in. At least something good might come out of this.
He's going to be the dad whose adult children want nothing to do with him. At some point they will realize how complicit and negligent he was, and he will be completely alone, no family, no enjoying being a grandparent, and they will feel indifferent when he dies.
He deserves punishment, too. He had a duty to those kids and he allowed all of this, allowed her to chase him away for a year, didn’t contact the kids etc. He is no saint, he is liable, too. It’s disgusting if he gets no punishment for it.
He also knew of and supported the withholding of food as a punishment for several yrs. So he is in no way innocent or naive to what his kids had to endure.
I agree
Obviously a very weak spineless man. No loving good strong husband and father would allow his wife to kick him out of their home, neglect his children while away, and not talk to any of them; let alone listen to another wack job supposed counselor, who was hanging out with his wife more than he was! Quite fishy.
He just doesn't want to go down with her.
He should be in jail too.
About time what did it take? Two injured children and over a year of estrangement. This is a sad story and I'm sure it will get sadder.
It took arrests and a loooot of public pressure.
He wasn't talking to his kids because he didn't want to risk Ruby divorcing him, so he chose to turn a blind eye.
He already was aware and supported withholding food as a punishment for several yrs before Jodi manipulated Ruby to him kicked out.
I know this behavior is Jodi's MO but I just wonder if Jodi and Ruby became more than just business partners and partners in crime and meanness? Am I the only one that thinks they look a little more cozier than "partners"? All of this mess is just mind boggling. Thank God most of us had a Mom that wanted us to eat and would have never in a million years thought about withholding food from me or one of my siblings as a punishment, maybe dessert but never the main course. I feel so bad for these children and I hope they don't have long lasting issues especially with food. It'll be interesting to see what Ruby and Jodi look like at the next hearing having had to live without all their beauty regime for months and months. Lori Vallow Daybell didn't hold up so well in that department.@@crystalhazer7246
Wouldn't be surprised if she told him to file for divorce in order to obtain custody of the kids and to ensure her sadistic parenting style continues in her absence should she go to jail....
To control the children who may still be called to testify.
This isn’t a surprise. He is smart enough to know Ruby is going to face hard time. However he is guilty in all this too and wants to play victim. When Shari distanced herself from both parents that said all you needed to know. Both are failures as parents.
He is just at fault as Ruby and it's beyond me why he isn't behind bars as well!
I feel like he doesnt want anything to do with her anymore as he most likely end up in jail
Him divorcing her *
@@rachaelharper3778he didn't speak to his children for a solid yr because he didn't want to divorce her. So him taking that step now shows that it's only for his image and desire to appear innocent. He doesn't care about his kids and doesn't want to get a divorce.
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Yep he wouldn't of tried getting his oldest child arrested just for helping her siblings get their things if he truly cared for his kids. Some of the kids might not realize this now, but they will when they're older and they won't want anything to do with him.
If she wasn't caught he still be with her so only because she was caught the husband wants a divorce
He took off a while ago. He hasn't been around. Was she in a relationship with Jodi? Something was going on there...
The Franke's were separated
And this is the "Dad" questioning why his eldest daught "wasnt" arrested? Kevin, you are NO better than Your wife and her Secret lover! Sorry for my typo there
No, wasn't arrested!!!
@@galeabernathy3921 forgive my typo..."wasnt"
@@jamminjami103Edit?
I just find it hard to believe this guy had no idea this was happening....
The internet never forgets my guy. Everyone knows how you treated those kids.
I can't understand how he had no idea what was going on.... it wasnt like these were isolated incidents, they were consistent and endured for a long period of time.... makes me sick that he isnt in jail too... please explain how he didnt know...
He CANNOT get custody of those kids. No no no.
Is he that neglectful of his children that he had no idea this was happening to them?... he needs to be investigated too
Are you kidding me? He was doing it along with her
I can’t believe that anyone would be surprised that her hubby is doing all of this. It is a good “play” for a man trying to get his kids back. Hopefully he doesn’t. He still communicates with his wife and that’s enough to argue that he’d be bringing his children around their abuser. That’s not right. Hopefully people finally step up for these kids.
I NEVER WANT TO hear the word Distortion ever again
Right?!! 🙄
Agreed!!
Licensed therapist here! I’ve never heard such a bunch of crap in my 40 yrs of practice. Distortion? Torturing and starving children is a crime. Period.
Kevin Franke holds no soft spot in my heart after he wanted his daughter arrested. That is not my idea of a loving father.
Kevin is just doing this to try and clear his name. He abandoned his children. No excuses
I don’t trust the father….he is doing this on advice from his lawyer & an ok from Ruby, his wife. He wants custody of the kids hoping loving wife will be back.
I'm honestly shocked that he actually filed 😅
I felt he would when it came out he stopped communicating with her after a few jail calls
He is teaching at BYU, or will be back there in the next quarter or semester. They probably wanted him to.
People don’t usually file for divorce because then they have to testify in court. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out for him.
Because you're not an attorney and you don't understand it was a legal move. He wants custody, he wants distance between her acts, and his attorney advised him to do this. Purely a legal move.
@@krazyk8592 yup. That's why the gilgo beach murderers wife immediately divorced him when the news came out. Sure there's half the reason of maybe she believes it and wanted to be divorced but secondly she didn't want to go down with him. I'm sure lawyers advise divorce asap for some kind of financial gain to at least get half of finances through divorce rather than nothing or not have to testify ect.
Thank you for posting new updates about this!
As if the Father had no idea what was happening in his own home, all these years....
OMG, an expectation for a SMALL child to be "managing time & space" is unrealistic! This type of "parenting" is stressful and damaging to a child! Example- holding her small child accountable for not making her make her own lunch for school is damaging to a child in many ways. I pray that all of these children are placed in a home full of love and stability and let these kids be kids and not punish them for doing so
Sever both their parental rights. His freedom nauseates me.
She also threatened to cut the head off her teddy bear. I understand it's just a teddy but that made me sick. You don't take a child's emotional support teddy or blankie and threaten to destroy it. I mean maybe I've been brought up being allowed to enjoy my childish toys but at age 6 it would have traumatised me forever if my own mother destroyed my toys on purpose.
If he stays legally married or cohabitation with the abuser, he doesn't get custody. He is probably seeking custody.
If this is a way to get custody of his children he doesn't deserve then he's a fruit cake
He just wants not to be charged that’s why he is taking distance from Ruby, he has never seemed truly interested in the welfare of his kids
I bet he did, but he didn't protect those children either. I don't know enough, but from what I do know I'm not confident that he should have custody either. Those poor kids.
I totally agree with you!
dont be a complete piece of garbage. he had concerns and was told that he needs to do what ruby says when she says it in order to get access to his children back
You literally just said you don’t know enough, but continued with he should not have custody of the children.
Jodi request that all partners separate. He did not leave the family he was forced to move out just like many of the other husbands.
We must all keep in mind Jodi was recommended by the church, and Mormons are highly brainwashed.
In my opinion, the church should be involved in all of this mess as key player 1. and Jodi has key player 1.a
No one in that crazy family should have custody of the minor children except maybe Sherri.
Their oldest has custody not him
Hubby is just protecting himself from legal and financial ruin. He needed to step in years ago. He tossed the older daughter to the side when she was sounding the alarm.
expecting kids to “manage” by always being cheerful and having time to do chores is insane
Kevin is just as GUILTY as Ruby.. He Turned his back on his kids when they needed him the most in their lives..
OMG YES!!!! As someone who is LICENSED in the state of Utah to do marriage and family therapy- I really hope they freaking pass something to limit people who are coaches and try to give advice like this!! Absolutely ridiculous it hasn’t been done sooner.
He's no better than his wife. When people were complaining about the way he and his wife were treating the kids he made a video telling people if they didn't like it then don't watch their show. He's only divorcing his wife because he thinks he'll have a better shot at getting custody of his kids. If he would have bothered checking on his kids he would have known what was going on, he didn't care to look in on them for an entire year.
Guilty, because He never did anything to stop it, weak sad excuse for a man.
They repeatedly say the words “truth” and “distortion” and I honestly still have NO IDEA what those words mean!
He totally knew what was going on!!!!! He is guilty!
Is this a surprise? He's as guilty, his part in this is on video for years!
I love watching the damage control. Everything with these people is so performative. If he was divorcing Ruby out of indignation for what she was doing/allowing to happen to their children he would've started proceedings pretty quickly, not months down the line.
he knew what was going on with the kids but he looked the other way because his wife and her partners were giving him what he wanted
Imagine a kid having to escape from his home and mother like it’s a prison… do prisoners even starve in prison ?
Funny, how he didn’t seem to care about proper qualifications while it benefited him monetarily
Kevin wants to get on with dividing assets and not having to pay for Ruby's lawyer and court costs. That's all he cares about.
Kevin is just as guilty as Ruby. He was an active participant in this cruel behavior. He needs to be arrested as well. As a grandma, where were here parents for all these years? So sad for those kids.
Difference between 'life coaches' and family/friends giving advice is (1) no money exchanges hands with family
/friends (2) life coach is a renumerated job (3) family are not solicitating clients. This shouldnt be too fifficult to craft the legislative wording.
Put him in JAIL.
Nice to see Kevin do some standup things regarding Jodi’s business which was unregulated. I also understand why his marriage is over. Now some old business needs to be acknowledged. We have seen enough video evidence that shows his support for the extreme treatment of their children prior to their connection with Jodi H. He should come clean on that because he could have protected his kids. Instead, he supported his wife in repeated brutal treatment of their children. I am thinking of his support for sending Chad to the horrible, life-threatening camp for several weeks.
So Kevin, it is good of you to attempt to make changes in the laws related to counselors ( a la ConneXions). The divorce is understandable. He was lied to by Ruby and made to feel emasculated due to Ruby’s apparent fondness of Jodi.
However, Ruby was a disaster in the making prior to Jodi H. coming on the scene. Once Ruby was manipulated enough by Jodi, she just ignored her kids, leaving them alone in their house for days or weeks at a time. The two youngest were tortured by Jodi and it looks like Ruby was in full support. Kevin may not have seen the extreme measures taken by Jodi and Ruby against his kids, which ended with the young boy escaping the house and asking a neighbor for help. I do wonder what Kevin would have done had he seen just how severe the “punishments” got the day the 12 year old was able to get help. It is pretty clear that this boy was near death.
All of them are culpable. Jodi has a history of torturing her niece. She has a history of breaking up families. The LDS Church bears responsibility her also, since they referred members to Jodi even after her license had been suspended for over a year at one time.
Get them all!
Hear hear! 👏👏👏👏👏
He's really trying to run away?? We see you, Kevin. We've seen you for years starving your kids and letting them sleep on the floor.
Things you do When your money train is coming to an end. What a clown if he thinks he’s innocent. He knew what was going on and chose to remain silent.
It is my opinion that all states need to have some sort of regulation for anyone who charges for advice, coaching, or counseling.
"Therefore, there are no standards for the industry" YAH! And LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!! I left UT a year and a half ago and am truly shocked at how a "family" state is the most messed up people I've ever had to live around. Hypocrisy and image is all that they do.
Amen, sister.
And secrets. Mormons love secrets.
Not everyone in Utah is like these crazy Mormon families and not all Mormon families are crazy. I'm not Mormon, but was raised in one. And I've lived in Utah all my life. I know many many people and families who are completely normal and down to earth.
Utah seems full of scammers!
He was apart of the raisin and discipline of the kids all of their lives…KNEW how she was and allowed it….. HE should have charges as well in my opinion….. sayin he wasn’t allowed to see the kids in the last year??? If he was a father, he would have DEMANDED to see them…. Sad ecuse for a parent.
"Apart" means separated from, the exact opposite of what you are trying to say. Two words, "a part", means included in.
@@krazyk8592 my space bar and i messed that up. thanks for correcting
I suspect he was encouraged to file in order to get the kids back. And to portray any wrong doing.
And protection of assets
Who could fall for such B.S.
Trauma Bonds?
Ruby Franke ALWAYS gave me the creeps. Her eyes is a dead giveaway. Cold, hard, sharp, no emotion behind them.
I think a bigger problem than unlicenced life coaches is the fact that Jody didn't lose her therapy licence a long time ago considering the amount of serious complaints there were about her.. Perhaps if she had maybe she wouldn't have been recommended by the church. At the very least her losing her licence is something that would have come up if anyone did research on her. I think Kevin should be less concerned with his marriage coming to an end than the influence she had on making their already terrible parenting into someghing even worse. If they were such good parents then how could they be influenced into implementing Jody's methods of parenting, which included duct tape and rope. Kevin seems to lack any self awareness and he's in denial about his complicity. I think he should be charged himself. I think this is just deflection and minimisation. I don't think he should have custody of the kids.
The fact that Franke called herself "certified " sounds like fraud to me. How and who certified her?
They should add it was probably his attorneys idea.
He's really scattershot in his efforts to make his failures as a father everyone else's fault, isn't he?
I hope he doesn't get custody of the kids. It was bad when he was there.
Just reading the title to this video in my video feed made me laugh! It took kevin THIS long to figure out he ought to end this sham of a marriage. He's really not very smart at all. I have no sympathy for any of the adults in this wretched fiasco.