What’s Next for Jodi Hildebrandt After Ruby Franke’s Guilty Plea to Child Abuse?

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    Ex-therapist Jodi Hildebrandt is expected in court next week after her former business partner, Ruby Franke, agreed to plead guilty to four counts of second-degree aggravated child abuse. Franke admitted she and another adult restrained Franke’s two youngest children with handcuffs, denied them access to food and water, and made them stand outside in the hot sun for hours. As part of her plea agreement, Franke is required to testify against Hildebrandt. The Law&Crime Network’s Jesse Weber checks in with KUTV2News reporter Brian Schnee to discuss what we can expect during Hildebrandt’s hearing.
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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  5 місяців тому +32

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    • @dawnf.1703
      @dawnf.1703 5 місяців тому +6

      Please stop showing the children’s faces. They have been through enough & deserve privacy.

    • @CityBohoGirl
      @CityBohoGirl 5 місяців тому +2

      She better not start getting treated like “princess Wendi Edelson” 🙄

    • @Enoughalready20237
      @Enoughalready20237 5 місяців тому +5

      Stick to topics and not ads

    • @georgewashington3555
      @georgewashington3555 5 місяців тому +6

      Prosecutors needs to go after Jodi Hildebrandt business partner Pam Bodtchr as well.

    • @bbe3034
      @bbe3034 5 місяців тому +4

      I think Ruby and Jodi were lovers. Why would the youngest 2 children be tied up?

  • @marie_d8044
    @marie_d8044 5 місяців тому +1264

    You will never convince me that Ruby didn’t know that torturing her children was wrong. Indoctrination or no indoctrination.

    • @onesweetangel1017
      @onesweetangel1017 5 місяців тому +73

      She’s just throwing Jodi under the bus in order to save her own skin. And if they actually buy into and believe what she is saying then I don’t know what to think of our justice system.

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 5 місяців тому +63

      You've got that right! She called Kevin as soon as she found out that Russell escaped because she knew she was going to be arrested. If she believed that what she was doing was acceptable she would not have called Kevin to come get the kids.

    • @whatadollslife
      @whatadollslife 5 місяців тому +65

      sieze all the money in their bank accounts and use that money for the children's future ,who she filmed for their entire lives for payment from UA-cam

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 5 місяців тому +36

      @@whatadollslife I completely agree! Those kids deserve that money for being forced to live in the public eye for their entire childhoods. Ruby should get a public defender and if she's ever released she should have to start her new life as an ex-convict with nothing.

    • @Writer777-wanna_be.
      @Writer777-wanna_be. 5 місяців тому +16

      @@snowwhite2524yep….she knew she was busted

  • @jilliegirlie
    @jilliegirlie 5 місяців тому +561

    Both of these witches should serve 30 plus years in prison.

    • @godzillamanstreb524
      @godzillamanstreb524 5 місяців тому +37

      Life imo

    • @HeavenlyPresley-Tonya
      @HeavenlyPresley-Tonya 5 місяців тому +23

      Lawyers On YT Are saying with Ruby doing the Plea Agreement FIRST -- etc MAX In their opinion is 15-20 years from their experience but predict Jodi will get about the same -- VERY Disgusting but that's how it works

    • @emileedezort3840
      @emileedezort3840 5 місяців тому +16

      That’s letting them get off easy IMO 😣

    • @AChickAndADuck
      @AChickAndADuck 5 місяців тому +20

      And those kids will hopefully never be in her custody ever again

    • @mirzamay
      @mirzamay 5 місяців тому +31

      Jody is such a danger to society in my opinion I really think she needs to be locked up and kept away from other prisoners. She's the Hannibal Lecter of mental health. I hope others come forward. It's a matter of time before she causes a child's death, if she hasn't already. And what about that partner they were trafficking ruby's children to for house cleaning in exchange for some food! That's the devils right hand right there. Disgusting that the henchmen aren't being prosecuted.

  • @Vol-mom
    @Vol-mom 5 місяців тому +332

    Ruby Franke was being cruel to her children long before Jodi Hilderbrant came along. They both deserve a lot of time in prison.

    • @Justdessertsforme
      @Justdessertsforme 5 місяців тому +4

      Absolutely !!

    • @kjh6903
      @kjh6903 5 місяців тому +13

      🎯 exactly!! Ruby doing it to her own flesh and blood is harder to wrap your head around than some lady that had no relation to the children doing it . Both are horrific but Ruby did this TO HER OWN CHILDREN !!

  • @JE4-1
    @JE4-1 5 місяців тому +408

    Ruby was an abusive Mother before she met Jodie. They are both despicable!!! But it is inconceivable that a mother could do this to her children. Jodie just enhanced Ruby’s evilness. May they both rot in jail.

    • @Kickhouse777
      @Kickhouse777 5 місяців тому +31

      Kevin too

    • @paulad3261
      @paulad3261 5 місяців тому +28

      Exactly!!! She and Kevin both!!! 🤬

    • @laurad324
      @laurad324 5 місяців тому +22

      Yes for sure - emotional. Jody found perfect prey and took it to a hole new level . I also blame fanatical religious beliefs for this insanity ! Both are guilty .

    • @missiris1234
      @missiris1234 5 місяців тому +5

      No holding back here. I give you credit for saying exactly how you feel

    • @Originalman144
      @Originalman144 5 місяців тому +5

      They were doing the scissors ✂️ ✂️

  • @kylaheaton
    @kylaheaton 5 місяців тому +278

    Ruby should either be going to a wilderness “therapy” retreat or perhaps be given a cell without a bed.

    • @JackieOlantern
      @JackieOlantern 5 місяців тому +26

      And be duct taped to the floor.

    • @ryanparkhurst5718
      @ryanparkhurst5718 5 місяців тому

      @kylaheaton, what is wilderness "therapy"?

    • @sandrafunny957
      @sandrafunny957 5 місяців тому +3

      Well said

    • @missiris1234
      @missiris1234 5 місяців тому +6

      I think the judgement of others will also be punishment.

    • @GSD1963
      @GSD1963 5 місяців тому +3

      She would be screaming to the rooftop . Getting a lawyer to sue if they did that.

  • @ftmb1022
    @ftmb1022 5 місяців тому +424

    Ruby is more responsible for what happened to her children than Jody. Those are her children, it is her job to protect them at all cost

    • @Originalman144
      @Originalman144 5 місяців тому +61

      It’s the husbands job to protect them from the mother. He failed and should be charged as an accomplice.

    • @GLITTERandSKULLZ
      @GLITTERandSKULLZ 5 місяців тому +47

      They're all guilty

    • @janebarbontin830
      @janebarbontin830 5 місяців тому +1

      Agree...
      @@Originalman144

    • @sam905
      @sam905 5 місяців тому +7

      I agree 💯!!!

    • @K.Adamsan
      @K.Adamsan 5 місяців тому +15

      Jody is more of a threat to the community at large. Jody has had MULTIPLE Victims over the course of many years. Jodi is the correct target....

  • @JenBee1
    @JenBee1 5 місяців тому +248

    The dad Kevin should be charged with neglect. Who just walks away from their kids? 💔

    • @janebarbontin830
      @janebarbontin830 5 місяців тому +16

      Agree...

    • @nadzach
      @nadzach 5 місяців тому +18

      Right. To say he left over parenting techniques makes no sense. If that were true, any decent human being would have intervened.

    • @dourakine1
      @dourakine1 5 місяців тому +30

      And, this kevin guy also wanted his oldest daughter to be arrested for theft because she went to their house to get some of her stuff after her mom got arrested.

    • @Lindoronyuni
      @Lindoronyuni 5 місяців тому +5

      My dad went to go get cigarettes and never came back.

    • @div1244
      @div1244 5 місяців тому +14

      Exactly, he supposedly disagreed with her abusive parenting yet left the children in her "care". He's a deplorable human being.

  • @marciasweat7857
    @marciasweat7857 5 місяців тому +166

    It makes you wonder how many more kids are being hurt with all the followers they had. Very scary

    • @khaleesireyna731
      @khaleesireyna731 5 місяців тому +19

      Not even, that, I really hope ConneXions and all those people who were working with Jodi (cough Pam Botchner cough) are being HEAVILY investigated. I get the feeling Pam knew about what Ruby and Jodi were doing and while Ruby and Jodi should definitely take the brunt of all of this, people like Pam better be getting a little paddling of their own in all of this.

    • @andreaschultz4552
      @andreaschultz4552 5 місяців тому +16

      I have the same concern!!!! WHY would anyone think this kind of behaviour and parenting is acceptable!!!! It’s disgusting!!!!! 🤮

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому +6

      my thoughts exactly

    • @a.a.6762
      @a.a.6762 5 місяців тому +5

      This is the scariest part!

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому +3

      at LEAST in the thousands on YT alone. i can’t even speak for TikTok audiences

  • @sandiemarie1
    @sandiemarie1 5 місяців тому +143

    That little boy is a hero. He was so brave to escape and get help.

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому +16

      he saved their lives i think 😢 like within the knick of time.

    • @semicrazyketogal8226
      @semicrazyketogal8226 5 місяців тому +6

      The boy had the will to live, and to save his sister!

    • @rachaelharper3778
      @rachaelharper3778 5 місяців тому +2

      If he didn’t escape we wouldn’t know what we know now and they could have died 😢😢😮

  • @pcbrightlights
    @pcbrightlights 5 місяців тому +404

    Franke couldn't cope with parenting 6 children. She wanted total control of her children and their total compliance with her authority. Sick.

    • @EASTSIDERIDER707
      @EASTSIDERIDER707 5 місяців тому +13

      She didn’t trust her natural parenting inclinations and was looking for outside validation.

    • @nadzach
      @nadzach 5 місяців тому +13

      She doesn't like children, let alone love. Why have six children if you can't love them? She used them as her slaves. I don't think she will do well in a real prison. She can't control the women there, and I don't think she knows how to make friends in any environment. Once she's committed, we won't know how she is doing. I'm going to be curious. I hope to God there's some kind of court order that forbids contact of any kind with the children.

    • @lilacscentedfushias1852
      @lilacscentedfushias1852 5 місяців тому +17

      @@nadzach she wanted 6 because her mom had 5, so she wanted 6. A ridiculous reason, from what I’ve seen on this case she didn’t like the younger 2 😢in particular, though I don’t think she was a good mother to any of them

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому

      sounds like you're an expert

    • @missiris1234
      @missiris1234 5 місяців тому +11

      She is a narcissist and a control freak. Jody just confirmed what she wanted to do

  • @lilithstribe
    @lilithstribe 5 місяців тому +246

    Blaming Jodi Hildbrand for behavior she engaged in before she even met Hildebrand isn't taking responsibility.
    Holding a child's head under water? Mock suffocating a child?
    I can't wrap my head around that.

    • @margaretlumley1648
      @margaretlumley1648 5 місяців тому +19

      Exactly. She could have been facing a murder charge

    • @user-ng4eg7ew9h
      @user-ng4eg7ew9h 5 місяців тому +11

      Ruby is a terrible mother for sure. But what do you mean by behavior she engaged before? She held her kid’s head underwater before Jodi came? I don’t think so. Ruby needs to take responsibility for her part, so does Jodi.

    • @SharpLife4
      @SharpLife4 5 місяців тому +5

      She has been under Jodi influence for about 10 years. FYI

    • @cherylemaybury9967
      @cherylemaybury9967 5 місяців тому +5

      You don’t know when she met Jodi. Jodi was already the therapist for Chad years before.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 5 місяців тому +1

      @@margaretlumley1648 murder involves a death. No one is dead.

  • @gloriaclark2424
    @gloriaclark2424 5 місяців тому +197

    And these monsters find each other to gang up on these kids.
    Cruel and terrible.

    • @americangirlx4
      @americangirlx4 5 місяців тому

      I wonder if they pick up each other's demonic energy, the very thing that real "humans" are repelled by??!?

    • @rakesfunnyfarm
      @rakesfunnyfarm 5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks to the church.

  • @missiris1234
    @missiris1234 5 місяців тому +590

    The fact that a mom would withhold food is deplorable. Where was Ruby’s motherly instinct. I guess she never had one. God bless these children. Even the older kids must have gone through alot

    • @jwhite5396
      @jwhite5396 5 місяців тому +64

      She’s sadistic and got off on watching her kids suffer. She flaunted it while grinning ear to ear.

    • @mirzamay
      @mirzamay 5 місяців тому +37

      Since she made her 6 yr old child make and pack her own school lunch for no reason other sadism and thought going hungry was a good punishment for a 6yr forgetting, I'd say you are right, she never had one.

    • @cl5470
      @cl5470 5 місяців тому

      Not just food. They also withheld water after forcing the boy to stay outside in the hot summer for days. These women are evil.

    • @brendabrenda6843
      @brendabrenda6843 5 місяців тому +49

      @@mirzamay and what’s crazy is that a lot of moms were excusing and praising Ruby leaving her young daughter going without school lunches. They have said that it’s an appropriate punishment. Deplorable adults.

    • @aliencity9309
      @aliencity9309 5 місяців тому +22

      social media is sick thing

  • @SchoolHouseRudd
    @SchoolHouseRudd 5 місяців тому +136

    How…how…HOW is Pam Botcher not being investigated?!

    • @cicikids3035
      @cicikids3035 5 місяців тому +28

      Agree I had a weird feeling she was a part of this. Creepy her and her husband.

    • @rhiannonrose4841
      @rhiannonrose4841 5 місяців тому +13

      I agree as well

    • @tammybenefield2976
      @tammybenefield2976 5 місяців тому +10

      I'm trying to catch up on this case. My heart breaks for the children. Who is Pam Botcher please? Thank you 😊

    • @therealz360z7
      @therealz360z7 5 місяців тому

      ​@@tammybenefield2976second in charge of connexions .

    • @sharontarin1310
      @sharontarin1310 5 місяців тому +3

      Yes, who is this lady please?

  • @Mom_572
    @Mom_572 5 місяців тому +36

    Ruby starved her children before she met Hildebrandt. Ruby didnt want 8 passengers brought in. Imo

  • @hernandezb2178
    @hernandezb2178 5 місяців тому +68

    I’m still curious about why no one is mentioning the dad who was present in many of the videos that talked about these abusive punishments! I think he should also be held responsible for some of the horrible things that happened to these kids.

    • @OffTheWagons
      @OffTheWagons 5 місяців тому +1

      He lucked out not being there when this was finally found out. He was definitely a partner in crime with her, not a bystander

    • @Robsay01
      @Robsay01 5 місяців тому +1

      She kicked him out of all of their lives. This is in Ruby. Can’t blame men always.

  • @mayloomis9638
    @mayloomis9638 5 місяців тому +356

    It was more than malnourishment. Check out the plea deal details of what Ruby admitted to herself doing or participating in. It's horrific.

    • @AllysonKing
      @AllysonKing 5 місяців тому +39

      He says that literally talks about kicking and holding his head under water

    • @bridgwll
      @bridgwll 5 місяців тому +8

      We know

    • @robynmarler1951
      @robynmarler1951 5 місяців тому +35

      It turned out to be much worse than I imagined.

    • @kateemma22
      @kateemma22 5 місяців тому

      This channel summarised it in a video from yesterday.@@JohnDoe-vg8og

    • @moestein6972
      @moestein6972 5 місяців тому +15

      Hidden True Crime reads it out loud. It is Ruby's confession.

  • @bobo8778
    @bobo8778 5 місяців тому +39

    Prosecutors needs to go after Jodi Hildebrandt business partner Pam Bodtchr as well. There's no way she's innocent. She had Ruby's kids at her house too.

  • @diymk1
    @diymk1 5 місяців тому +141

    I hope the judge does not take it easy on her. 5:09 description of what she did to her children was horrific.

  • @musicinggp
    @musicinggp 5 місяців тому +84

    The torture in the hot sun may take years for the kids to develop skin cancer. Shame shame...she deserves many years in prison.

    • @robynmarler1951
      @robynmarler1951 5 місяців тому +5

      That's what I was thinking. Even if not, it will have aged them.😔

    • @YayMiko
      @YayMiko 5 місяців тому +2

      Oh god I didn’t even think about that 😔

    • @Fat12219
      @Fat12219 5 місяців тому +2

      In the hot , hot 🔥 sun 🌞 😮

    • @jenniferjennifer9973
      @jenniferjennifer9973 5 місяців тому +6

      Skin cancer is very curable though but let’s hope and pray they don’t get it 😢 so heartbreaking

  • @Writer777-wanna_be.
    @Writer777-wanna_be. 5 місяців тому +37

    I believe if that boy had not escape he would have died…from starvation …even the neighbors said they foresaw the kids going out in body bags…makes you wonder how bad it was all those years…poor babies

  • @neurologylove2135
    @neurologylove2135 5 місяців тому +68

    The details of what the kids went through were so much worse than I think any of us realized. Who knows what else will come out as time goes on.

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому +5

      Yep. I want to be a social worker, and I’m a true crime and criminology type of gal, and just - wow.
      Horror movie level. Shock horror. It is (almost) surreal.

    • @jenniferjennifer9973
      @jenniferjennifer9973 5 місяців тому +4

      @@Ms.Prairieget the bad guys!! We need more good social workers in our country.

  • @AngelaJaramillo-ll2hq
    @AngelaJaramillo-ll2hq 5 місяців тому +96

    She belongs in prison for everything she’s done. I am sure she plead guilty in order not to have her children testify against her.

    • @khaleesireyna731
      @khaleesireyna731 5 місяців тому +28

      Sadly, I don't even think she cares about what this is doing to her kids. She probably only took the plea deal because her lawyer told her she'd probably end up serving A LOT longer if she took it to trial.

    • @eveelee4152
      @eveelee4152 5 місяців тому +13

      @@khaleesireyna731I also think to avoid going to Trial

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 5 місяців тому +12

      I think she plead guilty to avoid going to trial because it's hard to hear what she did to her children when it's read aloud. Imagine how much worse it would be hearing about the torture from the children themselves. Ruby knows the court of public opinion is against her right now, if she traumatized the children further by forcing them to testify she'd definitely get life in prison.

    • @eveelee4152
      @eveelee4152 5 місяців тому +7

      @@snowwhite2524 and she can’t lie because it all recorded and posted for all to see and what ever sentence she get Jodi will more likely go to trial and Ruby will most likely testify against her and sentencing they will throw at her is going to be more because there are going to be more people testifying against her

    • @christa9910
      @christa9910 5 місяців тому +9

      I totally agree! It’s for purely selfish reasons she plead guilty- if she was truly sorry she’d have quit the tortuous tactics long ago.

  • @justkiddin84
    @justkiddin84 5 місяців тому +173

    KUTV2 has been doing a great job covering this horror show.
    Jodi’s house looks like a Gulag in the desert. And it was.
    Ruby should never walk out of prison. Kicking your kid in boots, stopping their air supply, waterboarding, putting hot pepper in deep wounds, barefoot in the Utah desert in the summer? We need to get stronger punishments for this nationwide.
    R looks so sad in those pictures with his ‘mother.’ He is such a hero.

    • @chepiba10
      @chepiba10 5 місяців тому +4

      😭😭😭😭💔💔💔

    • @neurologylove2135
      @neurologylove2135 5 місяців тому +31

      Punishing him for "sneaking" more water! Of all the things to punish a child for, they punished him for drinking more water after working out in the desert heat with sunburns so bad that the skin was sloughing. Unthinkable! I know I shouldn't think this way, but I hope the other inmates hear the details and deliver some prison justice.

    • @wasteddemise2286
      @wasteddemise2286 5 місяців тому +7

      They deserve nothing short of life in prison

    • @sandravega6645
      @sandravega6645 5 місяців тому +1

      @@wasteddemise2286 Sadly, some people don't deserve to be amongst the general population. I doubt either of these women will be much better citizens once or if they're ever released from prison. How truly evil to treat your own children in such a horrible way. 💔😥

  • @snowwhite2524
    @snowwhite2524 5 місяців тому +15

    Ruby and Jodi are in distortion. I think that about 40 years in handcuffs, sleeping without a bed, doing manual labor without food and water, along with being duct taped to the floor in a tiny cell should help them live in truth again.

  • @marycahill546
    @marycahill546 5 місяців тому +105

    Imagine your church recommending Jodi Hildebrandt to you to be your family counsellor! What a betrayal!

    • @9384cows
      @9384cows 5 місяців тому +34

      The Morman Church should be fined for recommending Jodi for "therapy" to Ruby and others. They should also be held accountable!

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому +14

      especially after so much had already come out about Jodi

    • @relaxingwhitenoisenatureso1111
      @relaxingwhitenoisenatureso1111 5 місяців тому +19

      The Morman Church should be fined for a lot of things.

    • @heathercoon3451
      @heathercoon3451 5 місяців тому +1

      The Mormon church is a disgusting and deplorable scam

    • @lorenzodossantos1111
      @lorenzodossantos1111 5 місяців тому +19

      Do you mean cult?

  • @jennyhohmann4384
    @jennyhohmann4384 5 місяців тому +42

    Dear Lord, please don’t let either of these women near children ever again .

  • @chepiba10
    @chepiba10 5 місяців тому +28

    The fact that a mother would hold her child’s head underwater is deplorable and EVIL !! This will have traumatized him for life 😭😭😭💔💔 You don’t get over the sensation/experience of drowning without a lot professional help , OMG 😭😭🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @jodiellen9844
    @jodiellen9844 5 місяців тому +41

    She pleaded guilty.
    And regarding Jodi Hildebrantd; she is long overdue for charges and should face the maximum

  • @ndgrandma2124
    @ndgrandma2124 5 місяців тому +84

    Ruby was an adult and what exactly stopped her from taking her children and leaving Jodi's house??? Her story, like Lori Vallow, was all about the MONEY!!!!!

    • @robinbrown7953
      @robinbrown7953 5 місяців тому +24

      What kept Kevin from making sure his kids were ok? Who just walks away from their kids if they are a good father

    • @user-ng4eg7ew9h
      @user-ng4eg7ew9h 5 місяців тому

      I’m not saying Ruby Franke was a good person before, but people of all age are susceptible to manipulation, brainwashing etc. Religious people are more vulnerable to manipulation. This is not Jodi Hildebrandt’s first rodeo. From what I have seemed, there are more victims.

    • @ndgrandma2124
      @ndgrandma2124 5 місяців тому

      He was on the videos with Ruby while the kids are on their hands and knees scrubbing the floor. He knew a child's bed was taken away for six months. He is playing the victim which makes me sick. They both do. 🤮🤮🤮@@robinbrown7953

    • @kjh6903
      @kjh6903 5 місяців тому +8

      @@robinbrown7953 if he does get custody he needs to have LOTS of home visits from CPS . He was heavily involved with their disgusting punishments for years . He needs to take parenting classes and he should be watched closely . I still don’t know how he’s not arrested . He abandoned his kids and he was front and center in those videos where they talked about the punishments the kids received.

    • @rakesfunnyfarm
      @rakesfunnyfarm 5 місяців тому

      That is how Jodi works.@@robinbrown7953

  • @loraleiffxi
    @loraleiffxi 5 місяців тому +63

    I am guessing that the children told the police all of the things things that Ruby has been charged with? How else would they know what those kids have gone through. They are so brave if they were able to tell investigators about the torture they have been through. I can't comprehend how much this had to have messed with their minds, and I'm hoping they will be able to overcome all of this and become healthy happy human beings.

    • @SuperiorModel
      @SuperiorModel 5 місяців тому +6

      It's quite possible Ruby told them everything she's been doing. The police have very skilled interrogators that use techniques designed to make criminals want to confess all the details of their crimes. I doubt Ruby is mentally resilient enough to have withstood these techniques.

    • @louwinters508
      @louwinters508 5 місяців тому +1

      They'll be evidence from the doctor's reports. And Ruby would have been told to explain exactly what she did in order to get the plea deal.

  • @MeOhMyOh2324
    @MeOhMyOh2324 5 місяців тому +26

    As a fair skinned redhead, I’ve suffered from severe sunburn from my own stupidity. It’s very painful. The fact that Ruby knowingly subjected her small children to this torture over and over is beyond my comprehension. Despicable.

    • @jeanchampion671
      @jeanchampion671 5 місяців тому

      Plus they now have a chance of future skin cancer

    • @MeOhMyOh2324
      @MeOhMyOh2324 5 місяців тому

      @@jeanchampion671 yes. Sickening

  • @LizzieMc
    @LizzieMc 5 місяців тому +50

    This monster is up to something. She looked very smug. I don’t believe she thinks she did anything wrong. She just got caught out. She would have carried on with her torture.

  • @wingv313
    @wingv313 5 місяців тому +88

    Am I the only one who was bothered when Ruby pled guilty, that she kept taking deep breathes & closing her eyes being a little too dramatic?? It’s good that she’s admitting guilt but she is technically placing the blame on Jodi. I’m just not convinced that the time she’s spent in jail has really woken her up to what she’s done to her kids & family. The dramatics are obvious to me--Anyone else notice that too?

    • @janicemichaloski5292
      @janicemichaloski5292 5 місяців тому +11

      I noticed it too!

    • @fuzzylittlespider
      @fuzzylittlespider 5 місяців тому +19

      She shed zero tears she is not sorry. She is just upset that she was punished!

    • @eveelee4152
      @eveelee4152 5 місяців тому +12

      That tell me she didn’t want to plead guilty I think her lawyer made her do it because if she didn’t her sentence will been longer or harsher To me she trying to save face which is is pathetic and manipulative on her part

    • @cynthiaconnors183
      @cynthiaconnors183 5 місяців тому +17

      Admitting guilt to possibly lessen a prison sentence and actually feeling guilt are 2 completely different things.

    • @alysonnance-orr777
      @alysonnance-orr777 5 місяців тому +12

      It's my assumption that people take a plea deal not to do the right thing & admit guilt & accept the punishment, but rather to implicate someone else in order for a lessening of charges or lighter sentence. Ruby is still looking out for #1

  • @nancyvillines4552
    @nancyvillines4552 5 місяців тому +12

    Everyone knows that the first to talk get's the deal.

  • @peforster6725
    @peforster6725 5 місяців тому +15

    2 of the older children were at another lady's house who is involved with the counseling. Are rhere any investigations into her???

    • @robynmarler1951
      @robynmarler1951 5 місяців тому

      They were terrified when the heat showed up, they definitely knew they were doing something wrong.

  • @kolis_
    @kolis_ 5 місяців тому +15

    No one is ever your friend in crime. They will always throw you under the bus...💯

  • @MommyCassReborns
    @MommyCassReborns 5 місяців тому +61

    I hope healing for these children and family. This is horrible.

  • @kmitchell8323
    @kmitchell8323 5 місяців тому +16

    I highly doubt that hildebrandt completely forced her to treat the kids like that... I think she brought out the worst that was already in frankie

  • @esteemedmortal5917
    @esteemedmortal5917 5 місяців тому +86

    Jodi seems to be the bigger monster, so I hope Ruby goes through with her testimony. But Ruby isn’t far behind in the cruelty department

    • @khaleesireyna731
      @khaleesireyna731 5 місяців тому +14

      Oh, definitely. Something tells me Jodi is delulu enough to try and actually take things to trial.

    • @haintedhouse2990
      @haintedhouse2990 5 місяців тому +6

      Jodi is definitely the bigger monster - the girl makes two of Ruby,

    • @scoutandastir
      @scoutandastir 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@haintedhouse2990 who's kids are they?

    • @haintedhouse2990
      @haintedhouse2990 5 місяців тому +1

      @@scoutandastir uh.. i was referring to Jodi's girth. not sure what you're talking about.

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@@haintedhouse2990
      Why be a Karen about obesity when crimes of this magnitude are the issue?
      Unreal.

  • @grumpychuck
    @grumpychuck 5 місяців тому +32

    There should not have been a deal made for either of these monsters.

    • @HeavenlyPresley-Tonya
      @HeavenlyPresley-Tonya 5 місяців тому +7

      PROSECUTION WAS READY FOR THIS DEAL APPARENTLY FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN ON YT WITH LAWYERS --- THEY DIDN'T WANT THE KIDSSSSSSS TO BE IN THE COURTROOM RELIVING ALL THIS

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому +2

      did you listen to the reasoning? or are you the expert?

    • @princekareem
      @princekareem 5 місяців тому +1

      There is no deal other than the state dropped 2/6 charges. Ruby is throwing herself on the mercy of the court for sentencing and will help the prosection of Jodi - who is a very dangerous person

    • @rakesfunnyfarm
      @rakesfunnyfarm 5 місяців тому

      Bingo@@princekareem

    • @rakesfunnyfarm
      @rakesfunnyfarm 5 місяців тому

      The state are going after Jodi.

  • @noahbolin2023
    @noahbolin2023 5 місяців тому +57

    I don't really think that Ruby Frankie really feels I think she's just trying to minimize her punishment because it sounds like she's trying to put a lot of the blame on the other woman involved

    • @elizabethlacky6068
      @elizabethlacky6068 5 місяців тому +15

      Ruby is in distortion

    • @luciaconn6788
      @luciaconn6788 5 місяців тому +5

      Exactly

    • @user-ng4eg7ew9h
      @user-ng4eg7ew9h 5 місяців тому +13

      A lot of punishments mentioned are very similar to what Jodi’s niece suffered when she was under Judi’s care. Rudy is definitely an abusive parent before Jodi came into the picture, but this is Jodi’s MO. She is the bigger fish,there are more victims out there.

    • @Originalman144
      @Originalman144 5 місяців тому +2

      Good call captain

    • @SharpLife4
      @SharpLife4 5 місяців тому

      She would have got off if went to trial. Blame on Jodi. If kids don’t say mom did it it can’t be proven beyond reasonable doubt

  • @newenglandcoast7121
    @newenglandcoast7121 5 місяців тому +9

    Brian Schnee does a fantastic job covering all the messes in Utah! 👍👍

  • @leahh136
    @leahh136 5 місяців тому +11

    She needs to be charged for attempted murder!

  • @jmoore1939
    @jmoore1939 5 місяців тому +22

    they BOTH deserve same amount of prison time.. ruby let what happen happen...no excuse they were HER kids

  • @mariapapadopoulos3640
    @mariapapadopoulos3640 5 місяців тому +52

    There's no different between Jodi and a cult leader. If it came out that Jodi and Ruby were involved I would not be surprised. Ruby and her husband are just as much to blame and even more for creating this toxic environment and maintaining it. Can't wait till these two go to prison and the other prisoners get to them. Even prisoners don't like child abusers.

    • @AllysonKing
      @AllysonKing 5 місяців тому +4

      Neither would I considering Jodi always isolated the spouses

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому +1

      seems the courts don't agree with you about Kevin since he's not charged with anything (Yet?).

    • @MandyAltamirano
      @MandyAltamirano 5 місяців тому

      It wouldn't surprise me if the bishop and Jodi were involved. And the bishop tells the judge to go easy on Jodi because she gives the bishop good BJs

    • @OffTheWagons
      @OffTheWagons 5 місяців тому

      ​@@gointothedogs4634Have you seen their videos? He took full part in this before and was a partner in this with her and doled out some of the punishments until they separated. He's only getting away with this because he wasn't there when things blew up. He definitely is also guilty and shouldn't have custody of those children.

  • @andreaschultz4552
    @andreaschultz4552 5 місяців тому +9

    Can’t no one make you do anything! Wrong is wrong! They both are adults and should know the difference between right and wrong! 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

  • @crystalpond936
    @crystalpond936 5 місяців тому +22

    My concern is for all the children but truly how did the middle 2 girls keep from not telling anyone.

    • @Jen-yx5mz
      @Jen-yx5mz 5 місяців тому +7

      same thoughts.

    • @jerrilynnwoolston9734
      @jerrilynnwoolston9734 5 місяців тому +13

      Threats, isolation, and shame 😢

    • @margaretlumley1648
      @margaretlumley1648 5 місяців тому +6

      I imagine they had been threatened to within an inch of their lives

    • @samrumohr2691
      @samrumohr2691 5 місяців тому +2

      They probably didn't know. They didn't live at Jodie's house the younger kids did.

    • @samrumohr2691
      @samrumohr2691 5 місяців тому +1

      They probably didn't know. They didn't live at Jodie's house the younger kids did.

  • @spitfire_33
    @spitfire_33 5 місяців тому +40

    My firm belief & opinion is that parents are responsible for, and to protect, their children, PERIOD.

    • @elisepoulain6856
      @elisepoulain6856 5 місяців тому +3

      Not really just a belief or opinion....its the law!

  • @user-hr4rv8rf1w
    @user-hr4rv8rf1w 5 місяців тому +18

    Why second degree its first it was pure torture!

    • @bobe3250
      @bobe3250 5 місяців тому +4

      Lazy prosecutor and judge

    • @Salma_Nella
      @Salma_Nella 5 місяців тому +3

      She got plea agreement
      No trial

    • @user-ng4eg7ew9h
      @user-ng4eg7ew9h 5 місяців тому +1

      Plea deal.

  • @Tina06019
    @Tina06019 5 місяців тому +7

    This is so much worse than I imagined, even after hearing what Jodi’s niece Jesse described as their experience of torture by her aunt, Jodi Hildebrandt. Maybe I was thinking that Ruby Franke could not possibly have fallen into such extreme cruelty within just a few years of Hildebrandt’s influence.

  • @LoLo-hd4tz
    @LoLo-hd4tz 5 місяців тому +26

    Jodi apparently blames her own family for the reason her marriage didn't work and her relationship with her own children, so she thinks by manipulating other people, she doesn't have to accept responsibility for her own actions. She has an evil brutal mind. Ruby had to already have abusive tendencies to fall for Jodis crap. In my opinion

    • @cynthiaconnors183
      @cynthiaconnors183 5 місяців тому +9

      She was abusive before jodi

    • @princekareem
      @princekareem 5 місяців тому +8

      Ruby was already cold and mean to her kids. She had to have the sadistic streak to adopt Jodis ideas so enthusiastically. But Jodi is absolutely a wannabe cult leader

    • @TheMinimalistTherapist
      @TheMinimalistTherapist 5 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely agree. There was a dark vulnerability there in Ruby which Jodi was able to speak to. There were parts of Rubys core beliefs that were already a dangerous and abusive fuse. From what I have seen, Jodi just lit the match, in my opinion.

    • @louwinters508
      @louwinters508 5 місяців тому

      That's right​@@TheMinimalistTherapist

  • @ShoeChic5441
    @ShoeChic5441 5 місяців тому +9

    She was also farming her small children out to clean people's houses

  • @ladybeavanerdventures
    @ladybeavanerdventures 5 місяців тому +14

    One thing I hated from this footage is that almost flirty smile she does as she sits down at the guard oh and the hard blinks through out all of it seemed off is she trying to pretend to be sad or realise what she has done I almost think not blaming Jody for everything isnt gonna fool me or anyone else

    • @princekareem
      @princekareem 5 місяців тому

      Not enough people know about Jodi and how terrible she is. Please don't give her any credit for being innocent in this - she devised these tortures

    • @ladybeavanerdventures
      @ladybeavanerdventures 5 місяців тому +1

      @@princekareem who said Jodi was innocent as I didnt she is evil but I dont want ruby getting away with a slap on the wrist jail term she needs a long long time she held her sons head under water and kicked him with boots and a long list she has confessed to with her guilty verdict

  • @jeanchampion671
    @jeanchampion671 5 місяців тому +2

    Give her 60
    Years: she deprived them of oxygen? She pleads guilty but doesn’t accept culpability? My heart goes out to those children.
    The way she says “uncomfortable “ emphasizing each syllable with glee is very disturbing

  • @BelleWhittington
    @BelleWhittington 5 місяців тому +15

    The dad let those kids down and unprotected. He needs to face charges, too.

    • @AT-hy9cq
      @AT-hy9cq 5 місяців тому

      They learned their lesson. At least dad should remain with them.. they need at least one of their parents.

    • @blevinsfrank5453
      @blevinsfrank5453 5 місяців тому

      You know better than the prosecutors office? You're simply a man hater and u just want to blame it on a man.

  • @jcclfruitofthespirit
    @jcclfruitofthespirit 5 місяців тому +52

    Shes not throwing her under the bus...shes going to tell the truth regarding both of their heinous actions against 2 innocent children and both of them are being held accountable.

    • @weirdo5424
      @weirdo5424 5 місяців тому +17

      True but she’s also playing the victim and saying it was 100% Jodi’s fault but it’s not.

    • @jcclfruitofthespirit
      @jcclfruitofthespirit 5 місяців тому +5

      @@weirdo5424 agreed thats she playing victim somewhat but not that shes blaming all on jh.. I think she was reeled in by JH and that she took it all, hook, line and sinker. Jh has a long history of this but ruby has finally taken responsibility for her actions. She has pled guilty with no say about how much prison time she will serve. I feel it is the right thing for ruby to do...to tell the whole truth on the stand so her children don't have to.

    • @cynthiaconnors183
      @cynthiaconnors183 5 місяців тому

      Tell the truth? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому +2

      @@jcclfruitofthespirit I seem to be the only one who agrees with you. We've got a lot of really judgmental people here who are out for blood and don't want to accept that sometimes people make terrible mistakes. Ruby is a woman who will pay for this for many years, if not for the rest of her life. I'd like to let this play out and forgo judgement.

    • @jcclfruitofthespirit
      @jcclfruitofthespirit 5 місяців тому

      @@gointothedogs4634 Amen

  • @judytieger8976
    @judytieger8976 5 місяців тому +3

    Sounds like attempted murder to me!

  • @fastgurrrl
    @fastgurrrl 5 місяців тому +16

    Oh. Ok. Nice, real nice, DAD. You disagree with her parenting "techniques" so you just LEAVE the kids with her! DBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @mmmrhinogirl5963
    @mmmrhinogirl5963 5 місяців тому +9

    May life (prison) treat both of these monsters like they treated these children.

  • @tr6888
    @tr6888 5 місяців тому +7

    She deserves minimum 30 years

  • @Kay_Watermelon
    @Kay_Watermelon 5 місяців тому +26

    They are both unhinged. She pleads guilty, which to her is only a tactic, there's not a shred of remorse. She's fully blaming Jodi, someone who taught her how to shift blame. It's going to be a battle of the wits in court. And I bet Jodi will plead not guilty.
    They are both twisted twisted people. And were that way before they even met.

  • @sjack4056
    @sjack4056 5 місяців тому +6

    It is easier to blame someone else than take responsibility for her horrible behaviours. She was abusive to her children long before Jody. These children will suffer for the rest of their lives, especially the two younger ones, thus she needs to remain in prison the rest of her life!! I pray for her poor parents who I saw in the courtroom! It is so devastating for the family!

  • @margaretlumley1648
    @margaretlumley1648 5 місяців тому +12

    Of course Franke will testify against Hildebrandt. Such folks, IMO, don't show any allegiance to anyone when the chips are down

    • @therealz360z7
      @therealz360z7 5 місяців тому +2

      If she truly believed the kids had demonic entities you wouldn't be so quick to save her own skin she'd be holding out for a divine intervention.

  • @angeliquebelluomini7797
    @angeliquebelluomini7797 5 місяців тому +3

    Horrible. Those children certainly wouldn’t have survived much more of this torture. May they all find peace in healing. Ruby should NEVER be around children unsupervised.

  • @bamboozled9120
    @bamboozled9120 5 місяців тому +3

    Why am i not surprised this happened in Utah .

  • @reynaolvera7526
    @reynaolvera7526 5 місяців тому +20

    I’m still bothered that we don’t talk about the religious element more. That church covered up these abuses for years

    • @ericrypt
      @ericrypt 5 місяців тому +2

      Google: every single religion

    • @bobsgirl100
      @bobsgirl100 Місяць тому +1

      The church was sending Jodi clients for YEARS!!!

  • @BlessedJess55
    @BlessedJess55 5 місяців тому +17

    Seems like she is desperately trying to get people to feel sorry for her

    • @user-ng4eg7ew9h
      @user-ng4eg7ew9h 5 місяців тому +7

      She is going to jail anyway. She already accepted the plea deal. I wonder how many years will she get? Hopefully the children are free from her forever. I don’t know the father is any better though.

    • @princekareem
      @princekareem 5 місяців тому

      I think she feels shame to a degree. And probably is freaked out by jail too, a place she never saw herself in

  • @insightfulgarbage
    @insightfulgarbage 5 місяців тому +6

    these Jodi's are out of control

  • @sarahjscooper
    @sarahjscooper 5 місяців тому +13

    Purgatory correctional facility is a great name for a prison! Especially for a woman who claims to be as religious as Ruby!

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому

      just Mormon culture being sadistic, imo
      it’s every where in their religious/state language and symbolism

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому

      truly the argument for “separation of church and state” - it’s gross!

  • @lisalovesphotography
    @lisalovesphotography 5 місяців тому +3

    During the 911 calls, the neighbor mentions that there had been problems or issues before at the house next door. Do we know what those problems were?

  • @terrywilliams8585
    @terrywilliams8585 5 місяців тому +4

    She is not a committed mother. But she needs to be committed to jail forever😊

  • @danae1326
    @danae1326 5 місяців тому +4

    how do these people do this to children and think that no one will find out? how do they possibly believe this is ok and not abusive?

  • @Kickhouse777
    @Kickhouse777 5 місяців тому +29

    When is Kevin being charged? I pray the judge shows her the mercy she gave

    • @AmyC37217
      @AmyC37217 5 місяців тому

      My guess would be Ruby was trying to get closer to a Fundamental Mormon life and part of that is splitting up the family and brainwashing. If Kevin wasn't ready for polygamy - Kevin wouldn't be charged because Kevin was gone out of the isolation and brainwashing phase that Jodi was imposing. St. George is a Polygamy capital, there's no coincidence that Jodi lived there.

  • @katmeadow6671
    @katmeadow6671 5 місяців тому +15

    Ruby was MISTREATING her children LONG BEFORE Jodie even came along but happy to see both Jodie and Ruby are both being held accountable!
    Sickos!
    I pray big Bertha loves children and will be Ruby or Jodies cellmate 😅

  • @NotIfWhen
    @NotIfWhen 5 місяців тому +5

    They should have been charged with kidnapping. He was handcuffed and tied.

    • @MarkBraun-cm1eu
      @MarkBraun-cm1eu 5 місяців тому

      You can't kidnap your own kids.

    • @californiagrandma
      @californiagrandma 5 місяців тому

      @@MarkBraun-cm1euCan you hold your own kids hostage?

  • @HettiedeKorteDiplomaat
    @HettiedeKorteDiplomaat 5 місяців тому +7

    Ruby was very sadistic to her children. And her husband let it happen. And Jodi has been doing this torturing children for decades!

  • @terihaynes-yf9jb
    @terihaynes-yf9jb 5 місяців тому +4

    Evil doer both women need to be locked up. Accountability.

  • @queenofwater8783
    @queenofwater8783 5 місяців тому +2

    Ugh! Those poor kids. Please give them help from a non-Mormon therapist.

  • @nancyfralick7970
    @nancyfralick7970 5 місяців тому +7

    Lot more people out there doing this to their kids. The nuts in the world. That think this is ok. Crazy.And then why have 6 kids?

  • @iffyangel3380
    @iffyangel3380 5 місяців тому +13

    Prison, LWOP for Jodi, imo.

  • @BIGMACBURGER
    @BIGMACBURGER 5 місяців тому +25

    Just hope the kids are ok after all this mess.

  • @WooWoo-co4jf
    @WooWoo-co4jf 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank goodness the neighbours knew about Jodi and did the right thing, contacting police and giving that brave boy a safe haven, giving him food and a drink while he waited for police to arrive. I doubt he would have locked the boy in his house than allow him to go with jodi. I've listened to that phone call so many times but when he becomes overcome with emotion, tears provoke my eyes.

  • @kevintrotter2025
    @kevintrotter2025 5 місяців тому +22

    Jesse and Brian are a great team

    • @SchneeBrian
      @SchneeBrian 5 місяців тому +3

      Kind of you Kevin. I always enjoy speaking with Jesse and the Law and Crime team!

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому

      @@SchneeBrianSeconding! Always a very good vibe and flows so well!

    • @ericrypt
      @ericrypt 5 місяців тому

      Yeah, I dig watching these two feed off each other and report an accurate story

  • @annabaird-hensley3725
    @annabaird-hensley3725 5 місяців тому +3

    Will take years and possibly never for the children to develop normally

  • @RoloRolooo
    @RoloRolooo 5 місяців тому +5

    Must be casual Friday at L&C.

  • @amydoran9987
    @amydoran9987 5 місяців тому +2

    Her following the lead of another abuser was more important than loving and taking care of her own children. I hope they both get a lot of jail time.

  • @nadzach
    @nadzach 5 місяців тому +12

    He couldn't have left over parenting techniques. If he were concerned, he would intervened.. I smell a narcissistic liar. I don't even trust that Ruby is repentant. She's manipulating for mercy. How about a tear or two. She is a seasoned actor, but a title toss of the head didn't look right. What does everyone else think? I could be wrong.

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому +1

      I disagree because she did shed tears at the end.

    • @AreYouABadfishToo
      @AreYouABadfishToo 5 місяців тому

      I agree with you. I don't think Ruby gets it at all. I think she's blaming her partner and not accepting full responsibility. She's just trying to get a reduced sentence.

    • @californiagrandma
      @californiagrandma 5 місяців тому

      She seemed sincerely repentant to me.

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому

      Agreed. Dr. G on UA-cam did some behavioural analysis, and it’s really a lot to do with her fear of consequences, and brief moments of fight-instinct with her glares at the prosecutors but it quickly dissipates.

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому

      She’s not repentant in my opinion too. I would even offer that she still thinks RF is possessed.

  • @jennysmith5649
    @jennysmith5649 5 місяців тому +4

    She needs a minimum of 10 years in prison..if her son wouldn't have escape and got help , in time he and his little sister could have ended up dead!!

  • @user-hr4rv8rf1w
    @user-hr4rv8rf1w 5 місяців тому +10

    Just look at people locked up long for less crimes!

  • @bridgettjochum2337
    @bridgettjochum2337 5 місяців тому +5

    Why has Jodi Hilderbrand’s lawyer not doing PR for her??

  • @S-Dubs
    @S-Dubs 5 місяців тому +7

    Those poor children 💔 Sadly I believe they should both be equally guilty. You cant or shouldn’t blame another for the actions you agreed to and participated in doing. All she had to do was walk away from that nutty woman. But she drank the kool aid and participated.

  • @juliebrandt2455
    @juliebrandt2455 5 місяців тому +23

    There is no way that Jodi didn't realize what she was doing was wrong!!! She is a very intelligent person....come on!!

    • @khaleesireyna731
      @khaleesireyna731 5 місяців тому +5

      That first pic of Jodi in court where she looks like she's about to crap herself in court is chicken soup for the soul honestly. She knows she might just be royally f*cked and she won't be able to manipulate, lie, and deflect on her victims like she usually does.

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому +1

      It's called being a psychopath.intelligence means nothing.

    • @nellieshoals
      @nellieshoals 5 місяців тому +1

      @@khaleesireyna731 Where is that? It's not the one where she looks like a martyr that they keep showing is it? 🤔

  • @JulieCaptivatedinFl
    @JulieCaptivatedinFl 5 місяців тому +3

    Wait! Wait a minute! Did he say "Purgatory" correctional facility? Purgatory?

  • @thedrunkenelf
    @thedrunkenelf 5 місяців тому +5

    Please do an episode about Pam Botcher and how she might get charged as well

  • @limeparticle
    @limeparticle 5 місяців тому +1

    I really appreciate Brian Schnee’s reporting and your conversations with him.

  • @dawnf.1703
    @dawnf.1703 5 місяців тому +26

    Please stop showing the children’s faces. They have been through enough & deserve privacy.

    • @rameishasmith
      @rameishasmith 5 місяців тому +6

      the mom shouldn’t have posted hundreds of videos for people to see.

    • @dawnf.1703
      @dawnf.1703 5 місяців тому +3

      @@rameishasmith agreed and no one else should show them either

    • @whiteraven69
      @whiteraven69 5 місяців тому +1

      I believe that ship has passed ..when your mother has a YT channel showing your entire life to millions of followers.

  • @smooothlegs
    @smooothlegs 5 місяців тому +12

    RELIGION IS Dangerous diabolical JESUS IS a relationship, not religion!! I've learned 😮to. Follow JESUS NOT PEOPLE!!!

  • @auntsuga4359
    @auntsuga4359 5 місяців тому +4

    What about the third woman who had the middle two girls and had them cleaning her house? Has anything else happened with that?

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 місяців тому

      Pam Bodtcher- and not that we know of that’s public. my fingers are crossed so hard.