PASTOR JEFF & ‘HELLO SAINTS’! Is Pastor Jeff BUILDING BRIDGES? Or Is He Building OFF-RAMPS?
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- Pastor Jeff & "Hello Saints"? What to think about Pastor Jeff McCulloch's "outreach" to the Saints of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Is He Building Bridges? Or Building Off-Ramps? Much love, David.
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Totally agree! Jeff is trying to convert Latter-day Saints. We each have our ministry. This is his, and he's just nice enough to hope you'll listen.
I'm a Southern Latter-day Saint, and growing up here in the Bible Belt around Evangelicals gives me a different perspective.
Jeff studied his target audience and learned if he just speaks softly, acts like he's just trying to understand us, then he will give the impression he's actually trying to build bridges, and maybe (just maybe!) will learn enough to want to join the Church.
It's a giant, soft-spoken con job!
He's trying to build a following from disaffected Latter-day Saints, and the fact he's moving to Utah to start his own Church ought to let everyone know he's not here to join our church, or understand it beyond learning how to better relate to the people he's trying to convert to his church.
I am a convert to the church, I was only able to watch two episodes of Hello Saints, I think for those of us who spent so much time without the church, when we sincerely find it we know deep in our hearts what it is, then when we see things like Hello Saints within seconds we know the true spirit behind it… whether he is aware of it or not
It was so glaring it literally made me cringe both times, I stay as far away as possible from Hello Saints and anything like it…
Agree... it saddens me that others spend their time almost promoting him.
That's exactly how I felt... Thank you so much for your comment
I actually feel irritation listening to "hello saints "
Thank you for your thoughts 🙏 I totally agree with everything you've said.
I kept waiting for jeff to join the church since I knew it doesn't take long for humble seekers of truth to be converted. After a while I concluded he was a paid deceiver and no longer listened to him. Thank God and David's same beliefs we were both right.
HALLEAUJAH !
So true. A humble seeker who knows as much about the Restored Gospel as he does should recognize truth and move toward conversion, unless pride prevents him from feeling the Spirit.
He even admits that he's not searching for truth in the BOM or in our faith.
I’m with you, my thoughts exactly. That’s the reason I would follow him too. But I made up my mind not to watch his videos anymore. It’s pride that gets in his way.
Thank you for your comments, yes like others I was waiting for him to recognize the truth, but yes he is not looking for it or even want to know
Great warning! Listen up Saints! STAY ON THE COVENANT PATH! Pastor Jeff is sincerely trying to lead you into the MISTS OF DARKNESS.
Thank you. I too would never listen to him. I love our prophets of god and will continue to listen to our prophets of god ❤
I only listen to faithful podcasts
Watched two hello saints videos a long time ago and they weren’t very adversarial but the spirit said to stop, so I did.
Same. I think it was solidified when he started making come follow Me videos....whyyyyyyy would we listen to those
Yes I think your right he doesn't have the right spirit, you have been there.
You are absolutely correct! Thank you Brother. You are so wise
I remember commenting many months ago when you first covered this topic that in the beginning when I first saw one of Pastor Jeff’s videos, I became concerned pretty quickly about him. I remember having the scripture in Moroni come to my mind that only those who will read the Book of Mormon with “real intent” would be able to come to the place of conversion and that Pastor Jeff was in no way interested in reading the book that way. So that was like after his first or second video and I have not watched one since. Recently Gregg Madsen of Cwic Media had Pastor Jeff on his show again discussing, among other things, why God allows good people suffer. I began watching because I love the shows on Cwic Media and I was wondering if there might have been any change in Pastor Jeff. It is very interesting that when Pastor Jeff is in his own element, on his own show and platform, he appears very confident, nice, informed and polished. That day however I was quite struck by the fact that he appeared the opposite. It was actually very painful to watch him fumble around for the right words to say to the questions being asked. It was not Gregg’s intent to stump Pastor Jeff but it was apparent that Pastor Jeff was really twisting in the wind to answer or explain or talk about his understanding of why God allows suffering in the world. The reality is that Pastor Jeff didn’t know and his lame attempts to answer those questions made me feel sad for him. I immediately felt no light in him and only darkness. Not the darkness that comes from evil but the darkness that comes from the lack of the spirit which brings light and truth. I had to stop watching because I could not stand watching Pastor Jeff twist himself up in so many knots. I can only pray that he gets some benefit from his association with the Latter Day Saints because he really has nothing to offer us!
Your comments prick my heart. I need to stay focused . the middle covenant path and listen to the living profits and not allow an unordained individual to interpret my belief in Jesus. Our time here on the Earth is so limited that we only have time for a limited number of voices. We much choose wisely.
Me too
Brother David,
Thank you for the continued effort to set the record straight, concerning Hello Saints and Pastor Jeff.
Over a year ago, I subscribed to Hello Saints and was following his videos along with a dear friend from Pocatello, however she stopped following his videos because she saw & felt something that did not ring true to her, with him and his statements.
One thing was his visit to the BYU campus.
What my fiend noticed, was how Jeff kept ignoring his wife's request's to visit the campus launder mast, that were here that there along the way. She asked several times, but he blew her off, this really turn my friends head around on Jeff, not listening to his wife.
One thing, that struck to me in his reviews of the Book of Mormon, was the other day while going over the Come Follow Me study, while ponding upon many of the lessons that Nephi had written about and how deep & foundational they are in the Book of Mormon to be at the very beginning of the book, which really set the tone for the rest of the book!!! Then this thought came to me, why didn't those doctrinal statements of Nephi impact Jeff at all? They didn't even seem to move the needle with Jeff. Why did he just gloss over them, like they meant nothing or he would compare them to a New Testament verse or passage and minimize the verse in the Book of Mormon.....ever so slightly.
He kept doing this into other parts of the Book of Mormon, then I realized the depth of his sincere interest was shallow, and as you say, David....he is building off ramps in his own careful way.
I never, as of yet found his last commentary, after 3 Nephi, which he seemed to be unimpressed with, not impacted at all & as for the ending of the books in the Book of Mormon, maybe they are out there, but however I had seen enough to know when a person is deeply touched by the message and Spirit of the book, like a voice crying from the DUST, that his sincere interest was lacking, like he was just going thru the motions.
We all have our STEPPING STONES or STUMBLING BLOCKS in life.....Jeff is facing his and he may not even know it as of yet. .
Perhaps, he may come around.....when I was in the mission field we would knock on doors & if they were not interested we would move on, be polite & wish them a good day. We didn't have the time to get entangled in the back and forth, unless they were showing some sign of sincere interest, even then we would strive to plan seeds, hand them a small pamphlet.
There were many different faiths in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania & lots of ministers, who wanted to bash against us.
It was a baptism by fire, sharpening one's discernment abilities.
Blessings Brother David & I look forward to your move back to the USA & if I understood correctly, you may be coming to Pocatello, Idaho...which is great!!! I live down the road a bit, in Ogden, Utah, so we will be looking forward to your new life in Idaho.
What a wonderful.... How is it that I have the exact same feelings that you expressed in your comment.... Thank you so much for your post
Completely agree. I thought the same thing. The promise if you sincerely study the BofM would bring about conversion. I've experienced this in a friend who claimed she read it. She never has shown a real interest or joined in all the years I've known her. I knew she had lied. She did not really read or study the BofM or the promise would have been realized. So sad for my friend whom I love. If only they would really try to know.
Seriously why did he move to Utah out of the blue. It seems like a challenge to convert the LDS to his church and laugh about the whole way. Pretty sure ive got this right. If not then again why on earth did he leave everything he knew and his ministry where he lived to live among the LDS in Utah? Makes no sense.
@@rebeccasorensen7925Easy money $$ off the Happy People
Bless you, Brother.
The only reason I watch pastor Jeff is to refute some of the things he says and correct some of the errors he makes. It's always good to set him straight when he wanders off the true teachings of the church.
Thank you David!
You are 100% right!!
You are such an inspiration to me!❤️
Thank all of you who are commenting on this video. Keep up the good work in LIGHT AND TRUTH-GODS GLORY! Pastor Jeff even moved to Utah because of all the sheep following him so what does that tell you?
So grateful of your support of our beliefs in the Gospel Of Jesus Christ in these Latter Days brother Alexander. I don’t watch others that also try to understand, but still don’t believe or understand the truth about The Gospel🤗
Me either
Same here... It bums my spirit...
David, I'm so glad that you share these important messages without the fear of "insulting" those that may like Jeff. He is like the flaxen chord that is slowing being wrapped around our necks to eventually drag us down to a gulf of misery disguised as bliss.
There will always be jeffs in this world. Stirring up the minds of the faithless. Be not complacent in your faith. But let faith ,hope, and charity move you to action. Which is the evidence of your conversion. Jeff is poaching those who are only hearing the word. But be not hearers only.
Saints! The LDS faith requires your best efforts. Put in the work and your joy will be full. Then the attraction of jeffs charm will be swallowed up by the amazing grace of your Savior Jesus Christ.
Keep the faith.
When I listened to the general authorities as a young man, I heard the counsel several times that some prefer to follow dead prophets rather than the living ones, because it's easier. Thanks for your important counsel as usual, brother Alexander. ) The New Testament also contains our Savior's warnings about celebrating previous prophets while stoning the living ones.
Amen to your counsel. I absolutely agree that I need to first spent more time listening to my prophets and apostles, and study the restored teachings of my Savior.
❤ me too... Time is running out
David, I've heard Pastor Jeff, and I've heard Him communicate with Greg of Cwic. At first I thought maybe he was interested in the Restored Church, and I was hoping when he read the Book of Mormon and heard the beautiful testimonies of the Apostles and Prophets that he would feel the spirit of truth. However, as time went on, I felt he was more interested in converting us. We can be loving and kind, but when one has had a witness of the Lord's true Church, nothing else will do. Jeff is very loveable, but you are right, that we need to be cautious where we spend our time and what we listen to. I think because you have had to wait for 47 years to find the true church of Jesus Christ with Apostles and Prophets, Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone, that you appreciate what you have now, and avoid deception and doctrine that is not solid in its authority and foundation. I am with you. You are something else. 💕
You nailed it Bro David 🙂😃🤗👍🏼💪🏼🙏♥️
I believe you’re right. Jeff believes he is “saving” us Latter Day Saint and he is being smart about it. That’s his job as a pastor. ❤
Totally agree. Which does not make him a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
@@briancrismonpetersen7885 no, just a mere Coyote in a lamb coat
Brother David, you are awesome, and your testimony is so powerful. Please keep making these videos. I am largely housebound and you lift my spirit higher every time I watch you. I have watched Pastor Jeff a few times, and your assessment is wise and correct. Thank you for your courage and your faith.
There are no coincidences- my scripture study this morning was Helaman 13… sounds just like Pastor Jeff!
This is your best episode yet!!
Great Job!!
I stopped watching him when I started to question why he's so laser focused on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints faith. The more I thought about it...the more I came to the conclusion that I don't believe his motives are 100% pure. If he believes in his faith so much, why is he not spending his time focusing and preaching it? Thanks for this video Jeff.. hopefully it'll help people decide if Pastor Jeff is really worth giving their attention to.
Well said, David. I had an evangelical professor at BYU who was an excellent teacher and knew a lot about the restored gospel and its history. Despite decades of being among Latter-day Saints and knowing so much about the gospel, his pride prevented him from recognizing the truth in front of his face. I used to look up to him so much but that respect eroded when I realized that he was intentionally putting on blinders to prevent conversion.
Free agency -- we'll all answer to how we used it! I've improved over the years with the "Art of Allowing" -- even when the choices I see amazing people make stymy their progress. Two of the most powerful dissuaders I've witnessed are discomfort and inconvenience. The courage to face truths when it could totally disrupt your world (and relationships) is one I super admire.
You're awesome David! I'm right there with you💪❤
I was just thinking, it has almost been a year since your baptism and so you may be ready to receive your endowment soon. I look forward to hearing what kind of preparations you have made and how this impacts you after the temple. Pocatello has a beautiful Temple and I believe you will enjoy it there. It is much larger than the Sydney Temple.
I concur with this request! I'd love to see a video discussing David's current understanding of the temple and what he's doing to prepare. Based on his videos so far I believe he's on the right track. But, going through the first time for myself, was really mind blowing. I'd love to listen to a before and after video.
I’ve watched this “Jeff” fellow a few times, mainly in hopes he might convert, as I did 48 years ago, and he may. Everything I heard from him tended to drive a wedge between the Restoration and what is nowadays called mainstream Christianity. I totally agree with you about spending our study time each day/week in The Book of Mormon or talks/writings of the Prophets, both ancient and present, and prayer where we seek the will of our Father! I was a hard nut to crack. Pastor Jeff seems to be too. Pray for him. I’m disappointed in Greg Madsen while he continues to give him a huge platform to “spew” his understanding of the true Jesus. Greg probably can handle Jeff but can the thousands of listening members do also. I hope they are not sending him money. The best policy is to unsubscribe to his sight and let the missionaries teach him the approved discussions, with their appropriately and timely challenges, just like you were taught by the “sisters”!
Really enjoyed your comment....thanks
David ... Don't waste your time going on his channel to have a useless conversation... What you do on your channel is so valuable and if you have nothing to say for that day you usually play a wonderful conference talk by one of the apostles.... Your channel builds and faith... You are such a good missionary for the church and for the Lord Jesus ...love your channel thank you David
When it gets right down to doctrine, the restored Gospel in miles ahead of what general Christianity has to draw upon.I need to drink of the pure water.
Br Alexander, As someone who is now "one of us" what is your perspective of being a former scoffer to someone who is now scoffed at, quite a bit now? Did you know how real the hate and vitriol would be? I still get it from my extended family 47 years later. Apparently when
I got baptized, my first name was ditched by my extended family and they decided to start calling me "the mormon" 😂. Id much rather prefer "the happy Mormon", but I guess that that's just way too many syllables for them. Not that it matters to me one bit. So be it. But I'm am curious now that you're a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints how your personal relationships from before your baptism treat you? Being a member of Jesus Christ's true church is an honor and privilege and I'm just so grateful for my membership and my faith. Let them scoff all they want. Scoffing will not change the truthfulness and divinity of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints one iota.
P.s. pastor Jeff is a smooth talking snake oil salesman.
P.s.s. We all love and support you.
Love your comment... I guess that's part of it when you follow Christ sometimes you leave friends and the family behind
@@DansCarsheCrashedyes unfortunately that does happen
You're spot on David. I understand PJ says he wants to build bridges, but I don't need any bridges with Evangelical Christianity.
Studying those doctrines is a waste of time, and is not edifying of the spirit.
I agree with you 100% that instead of listening to him and his doctrines, I can listen to the words of God and the words of the prophets.
Keep doing what you're doing, you're amazing!
AMAZING perspective.
Creating off-ramps in our heart
We should listen to apostles for 20 minutes a day
U have such great perspective!!
Bro David - I have watched your videos since before your baptism. I love your take on Pastor Jeff. I thought at first that he wanted to learn as you did. But, I saw quickly that he wanted us to get off our covenant path. I would love to go with you to the Temple! It is what I put as a priority in my life. I live in Nampa so I can easily zip over to the Pocatello Temple to share in your glorious day.
Bless you with safe travels on your way back to the US.
I too consider myself one of the Happy People! Sister Jansen
Good morning David, I enjoy watching your videos. May the Lord continue helping us to be the best example of honoring our Father in Heaven and everything that belongs to his creation, love all he loves, and respect and leave his words for in them we see salvation.
You are so right. He is charismatic and does seem so sincere. However, I felt that he and his wife are not truly looking into our faith. I seen the conversion of many including yours and there is defined difference.
The Holy Ghost has shared this with me. You are on point and it’s so true.
He is very charismatic in his connecting with us and it is for spiritual and financial gain with his drip by drip off ramp. He is doing this ever so kindly and slightly.
We, as members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are just so enamored with his seemingly non-evasive potential conversion. That is in his own words not going to happen as he truly does have a different intent. It’s simply a new tactic by the deceiver, but it seemly is in the nicest way. However, you are correct and I’m personally not interested in any off-ramps.
Thank you David for sharing your insight and memorable stories and especially scriptures.
Sincerely, Kristine.
Very well articulated. And you know, Satan himself must be very charismatic as well. He tricked and blinded a third of the hosts of father's spirit children with his word salad rhetoric. Convincing them to cast off their destined progress here on Earth.
Here, while the names have changed, cloaking the Great Deceiver, he stealthily employs unsuspecting mortals to continue his subterfuge.
Been doing that for 7000 years I Suppose.
You are so right on spot Brother David! Thank you for your great testimony!
I think he appeals because he is searching, and we love the truth, and want him to be happy. Also to help build bridges with him and others, where they are at the present time.
I don't listen to those other voices, he may be very sweet however the adversary is using him to get to latter day saints. Love always listening to you.
Jeff’s tactics reminded me of 2 NE 28:21-22 “And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security… thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell.
22 And behold, others he flattereth away…”
Dear David
Thank you for sharing your experience of hitchhiking number five.
I like how you likened it to staying on the middle of the covenant path!
Hi David I agree with you . Pastor Jeff's messages are very subtle and they get twisted over time in his videos to persuade people to go his way of thinking . I saw in a video of his when he was talking to Kurt or maybe his name is Kirk, an LDS friend of Jeff's , when they were down in St George, that one of Jeff's purposes is, that if there are members of our Church who are having a faith crisis, he would invite them to go to his church and to come his way, because he would rather have them go to an Evangelical Church then to become Atheists. So his main audience he is targeting are those members of the church who are having faith crisis's. He wants to help persuade them to come to his church and learn more from him. Once again, to me, this is priestcraft because he's getting paid to be the pastor of his church by the people . Now if he was doing all these videos for free, this might be a whole different story. But he's getting money off of patreon from people who are supporting him on his channel. To me sometimes his messages are backhanded slap to us all across the face, that we are wrong and that the Evangelical way of thinking is right. It's like he's saying you don't need to repent , you don't need to work so hard, you don't need to do works, you just need to believe and that's all you have to do . That to me is a fallacy! The whole reason this Earth is in such upheaval is nobody wants to take accountability and responsibility for their sins and transgressions that they create with other people. The reason so many people are in pain is because they don't repent and ask for forgiveness and give forgiveness to one another. That's how it makes me feel sometimes when I hear his messages. They are very subtle and carefully crafted. People need to listen very carefully to what he's really saying. And then turn him off just like you have suggested David.
Thank you for your commentary on this video .
I have faith in bridges….truth is truth, and people eventually find it. Good people eventually find “and” accept it, and admittedly say, “You were right!”
The scriptures actually say “few there be that find it”. I have discovered, sadly, that there are many who do not want the truth. Once you do find it, fix your focus on truth and “heed not” those who do not want the truth. Satan sets clever traps for good hearted people. Avoid dabbling in them and focus on the many strengthening voices offered by the Savior and HIS CHURCH. ❤️
Thanks David. Reminds me of the dangers of the flaxen cord 2 Ne 26:21-22
This is a good re-run topic. I don't watch Jeff McCullough anymore. His subtle digs give me the creeps.
Me too
Supposedly there are evangelicals that disguise themselves as Jews so they can integrate among them and try to convert them. Kinda sick if you ask me. Very dishonest at the least
I'm with you on that! I always feel like sick 🤢 seeing him or if I hear his voice. He's incredibly fake, he use's the saints for his monitary gain! I won't apologize for my faith to anyone, the church is true ❤️🙏🏻🤗💯🤗🧁
David, thank you for your fine videos and great testimony! I'm very glad you put this video out. Some months ago, when Pastor Jeff was fairly early in his Hello Saints videos, I watched a few of them and sincerely hoped (and probably prayed) that he would be converted to the Restored Gospel. But there came a time when I began to doubt that he was going to accept the true Gospel, and it was then I pulled away from watching his videos. Later, when I realized he was moving to Utah, I felt he evidently had some ulterior intentions.
True
Just wanted to express my appreciation for you, David. I stopped listening to Paster Jeff after you discussed him first on your channel. I think, like many followers of his channel, that there was a hope for his conversion as he continued investigating the Church. But he was not impressed with the speakers when he attened General Conference. So that was a red flag to me that there was another agenda he was pursuing. I felt his mind was not open as he was learning about our religion. You, on the other hand, were open to learning about the gospel and have gained the understanding and strong testimony of it. It is a joy to watch your channel. Thank you for your humble and sincere teaching on your channel. You probably don't know how much good you are doing. Take care and may you be blessed in your upcoming move.
Sincerely, Brother Mike Hardy, Riverside, CA.
Thank you for sharing your testimony and love for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Amen to your council. God bless you!
I thank you for your words of great wisdom. I hope they penetrate the hearts of those who are most in need of your inspired message!
Thank you David Alexander, you are ministering from the foundation of Apostles and Prophets and Jesus Christ Himself is the Head, Chief Corner Stone of His own Church, The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints, Amos 3:7,Surely the Lord God will do nothing but revealth His secret unto His servant the Prophet, ❤and prayers ❤️ 🙏
I really appreciate all of your videos, brother Alexander and I really appreciate your knowledge of the Bible! You look and sound just like a Happy person! I totally agree with you about the hello saints topic.
You are a logical and faith filled man! You're awesome, brother!
So Sweet, wonderful pure inspirational prayer to confirm blessings upon all who have been listening, love you Brother Alexander, Let God continue prevail in your and our lives 🙏 ❤️ 💙
Amen Brother David, the word for Jeff, both of them, is beguiling.
In our church we have a bible, Books of Mormon, doctrine and covenant, pearls of great price , prophets and apostles, missionary and so forth. Jesus Christ is leading the church. I’m am so grateful for that I come to know the true gospel of Jesus Christ through the Holy Ghost.
Thank you for words of wisdom, and I have to admit that you are so right. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!! I have watched Paster Jeff a number of times and have been bothered with him, I watched hoping that he would come to an understanding of the Gospel but each time his underling feels came through. I wondered why he moved to Utah, And now thanks to you I do know why! I will not watch or listen to him again!
I’m not sure why Latter-day Saints are still listening to Pastor Jeff when President Nelson said this in general conference: “Never take counsel from those who do not believe. Seek guidance from voices you can trust-from prophets, seers, and revelators and from the whisperings of the Holy Ghost,”
We have opportunities to build interfaith bridges in real life. Don’t pretend that consuming Pastor Jeff’s content is the same as building interfaith bridges with each other.
My goodness Sister, wow! Soooo true❤❤❤
“Never take counsel from others ….who (believe the Church of Jesus Christ …is false”). Believe these true words
Agency
If you’re listening to conference with ears to hear the prophet, members should have immediately known what/who Pres. Nelson meant by his comment.
So true, thank you! Remember what Lehi said about the great and spacious building...heeding them NOT. :)
Much rather listen to you any day
Brother Alexander, spot on! I could not have said this any better - in fact, I marked my scriptures on the proverbs reference, as it didn't click until you said that! I bear witness that the Holy Ghost guided you on these comments, for surely you were speaking truth! I knew about Pastor Jeff a long while ago, and was astonished at how many members watch his videos thinking he's on a "conversion path". I too wanted to believe (as I'm sure many honest LDS members do) that Pastor Jeff was and is a very sincere person, but after recognizing a few things, I realized he's just trying to make money off of a very large segment of LDS members and is also attempting to sway people from the church. He is the VERY definition of a wolf in sheep's clothing - and a very convincing one at that too.
First, the way he titles his UA-cam channel and videos, attracts LDS members like a bee to a flower. What hasn't clicked yet for people is he's profiting from all those who are clicking on his videos. He's building his recurring revenue for retirement (or perhaps funded his move to another state - where he thinks he can convince many to join his congregation) through these videos.
Second, in one of his earlier videos where he "claimed" he wanted to learn more about the LDS faith by reading the Book of Mormon - he wasn't about "learning" anything. He literally read the Book of Mormon with skeptical eyes and spoke against anything that conflicted with HIS views of Christ. If someone wants to know the truth, they must wash themselves clean of all worldliness and man-made theories and read it with an open mind. No prejudices or preconceived notions - for if our perceptions are way off from what Christ truly wanted, how else will you see truth? THAT is one of the surest ways to have the Holy Ghost testify to you, IF you are willing to change and follow Him when you receive your answer. If you look at the book with skeptical eyes and look to tell others how it's wrong and off-base, you are NO different than the Sadducees and Pharisees when Christ walked the earth - trying to trap Christ in His words, in divers ways.
For all those evangelicals who have been convinced by your pastor and congregation, that praying if the Book of Mormon is true is in fact praying to a demon of lies -> I ask you to read Moroni 10 again with a different set of eyes, for it reads: "Verse 4: And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost."
Notice the part that is says "ASK GOD [...] IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST" - when was the last time you prayed to God in Jesus' name, and thought you were praying to a demon? Stop being fooled by others who are trying to pull the blinds over your eyes. You can know from God Himself! Don't put your faith in MAN! I am living witness that He answers prayers!
He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He’s out to scatter and devour weak members of the flock.
Although, if they are weak, perhaps this opportunity will help grow their faith. Many come back after being out of the church. The stats are about 40% return after leaving. They recognize something missing after a while of being out. The wolf may devour them, but God can raise the dead back to life again.
Absolutely ❗ He's a fake person using our church to get gain's,he knows exactly what he is doing! He even said that people have left our church for his! I can't believe people don't see through his fake demeanor, he mimics the saints and the Joy we have in the gospel! He does this to attract members he knows we pay tithing and if he can have our members leave and join him then he gets a financial increase ❗💰💰💰💰💰💰 He use's our faith, and I find it disgusting ❗
@@stardustgirl2904 Priestcraft in the worse possible way!
@@zionmama150
It's a big gamble, don't you think? They are all going to be our lost sheep which we will have to go after them to bring them back. Would it not be better to hold on to our weak members and support them until they become stronger than allow them to absorb false teachings, brainwashing and lies about the Church?
You don't understand the Evangelical religion and you have allowed yourself to be seduced by him.
@@stardustgirl2904 he knows it, but we have no ability to judge the motives behind it. there are many people that do evil things thinking they are doing good things
Brother David, another great video! I so appreciate your insight and testimony. Alma 30 talks a lot about Pastor Jeff. He's speaking "against the prophecies which had been spoken by the prophets" in verse 6. Lying and flattering words. vs 53 "the devil hath deceived me.....Go and reclaim this people, for they have all gone astray after an unknown God." It's the same old story of leading believers away from the truth. His name is Korihor. Hopefully these members will awake and arise from the dust and recognize Pastor Jeff's true intent.
Thank you, thank you, thank you David! Love and appreciate you! I am so grateful for the restored church, I love my Heavenly and my Saviour Jesus Christ. I love the inspired scriptures. This is the true church. Please keep sharing your wisdom and testimony.
I haven't watched any hello saints since you pointed out the "off ramp" situation , and man, that makes sense.
Haha , I was saying "time &a little water" and you said you couldn't hear me 😅
God bless you, Brother Alexander!
I pray that Pastor Jeff's increased understanding of our Church's doctrines, will allow the Spirit to point out those verses that get ignored or tied in knots to try to make them fit into mainstream Christianity. And if necessary, God will cause Jeff to be humble. There are good people in all religions, who don't know where to find truth and don't know that they don't have truth, or they are threatened away from where to find truth. I noticed his subtle attacks, whether he intentionally does it or not. With phrases he throws in like "Jesus Christ of the Bible" or "The only word of God". But the truth is that Jeff and the other mainstream Christians don't teach Jesus Christ of the Bible, they teach Jesus Christ of the Nicean and Athanasian Creeds. If they do, they why are they adding elaborate commentary and change definitions of words in the Bible to make it fit the Creeds, instead of changing the Creeds to make them fit the "inerrant" word of God, the Bible?
yeah why? this rhetoric is definitely not of theBible….
@@tammyvancleve Could you be less specific as to what isn't biblical? Perhaps you should read the Bible, the ENTIRE Bible first, before making your comment. You'd be surprised what's in the Bible that doesn't get taught. And what they add to the Bible to make it say something other than what it says when read plainly. Apparently you have to have a doctorate in theology to determine the "True" meaning of scriptures. Tax collectors, fishermen and especially carpenters don't qualify to interpret scriptures. None of those who wrote the scriptures or those who the scriptures were written about, qualify to give an interpretation of those scriptures they wrote. WRONG! When God says "Ye are gods, and all of you are children of the most High.", this God who cannot lie means they truly are gods.
I have read all of the Bible as well as other canonical scriptures@@bartonbagnes4605
not biblical is just to read or say the "Jesus pray/saves" and not have one that has the authority of God baptize you@@bartonbagnes4605
If Jeff hasn't got it by now he never will!!!
Can't say never. Good members exist in other churches. I've knocked on a few of their doors.
Love your videos David!
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So, for David to talk with Jeff McCullough, really, could only help and could be looked at in a couple of ways.
David speaks Jeff's language, so to speak. David knows how to present things in a way from Jeff's perspective. David was a Pastor at several points himself but, I think that would scare Jeff as well. He's afraid that if he denounces Protestantism with all the negative things he's heard about the Church and Joseph Smith that he's risking being saved (except he's already met the requirements of accepting Jesus as his personal Savior so, it really doesn't matter. I've asked Protestants if I was going to hell for being a Mormon and some say No, not at all, I just have a different view of Jesus as they do, and others still say No, but I've just been deceived. Catholics will outright be bold and honest and won't beat around the bush and mince words and say I'm not saved because I haven't been baptized by proper authority. But, by all accounts, Jeff could be baptized and still be okay, by his own beliefs because he's already professed Jesus as his personal Savior and prayed the sinners prayer, that's all that's required for salvation, but he's still afraid.
The other thing is though, in the end, we'll be judged by what we know (accountability). The more Jeff learns, the more the Spirit can testify to him and thus he becomes more knowledgeable and accountable. In the end, the Lord will say "Jeff, they taught you everything and you still refused my word, you turned me down and turned away from me. You even went digging yourself and the Holy Ghost bore witness to your soul and you still denied me, I'm sorry." The deeper Jeff diggs, the more he drinketh damnation to his soul kind of thing. Just like one appears before a court, the Judge takes into consideration what that person knows, their maturity level and how much they know and comprehend the law. Jeff, knows the basics and if the Holy Ghost has been going to town on him and Jeff's ignoring it, he's in the thick of it and he knows a lot more than someone in China or North Korea knows about the restoration of the gospel so, he'll be held accountable for that in the end. David can only help and that conversation from protestant to protestant would make Jeff all the more accountable so, it's a good idea. If David were to turn it down, it's a missed opportunity, but, at the same time, Jeff has others working on him like David Snell and Greg Matsen. Greg defends Jeff and takes whatever opportunity to help him, I think Greg seeing all the attacks on Jeff kinda shut him off to everyone.
Personally, Id like to see David conversing with David from 52 Churches in 52 Weeks. David could do a lot of good. David from 52 is coming along really well, he's seeing it and figuring it out more than Jeff who is just flat out letting pride get in his way, it makes sense to him and he knows it, but fears gotten in his way.
As far as more direct to the title of this video: It's both. Jeffs building bridges so that eventually he can use the off-ramps. Latter-day Saints are like an abused child CPS has to come and get. They've been abused for so long and have fallen under so many attacks, that anyone who says something nice or gives them the time of day they'll look to and love. Jeff can eat this all up and it tastes good to him. He's building relationships of trust with people so he can eventually start hitting them with the doctrinal questioning, he's just a lot more patient than most Evangelicals AND Latter-day Saints for that matter. Jeff can watch a TV series over time where most Evangelicals (like Jeff Durbin) have to binge watch or skip to the final episode to see how it ends, and Jeff McCollough knows this, he's seeing Jeff Durbins tactics and failures as a result. Durbin can pick off one at a time, Jeff is shooting for a mass baptism, he's more subtle than Durbin.
Jeff is also a businessman. You'd never find a Latter-day Saint in a sanctuary sitting with the congregation and when the collection plate comes around find them putting money in it. Won't happen, because Latter-day Saints say "I pay my tithing twice a month." But, UA-cam as a whole is the New Age way of this selling the Gospel for money, Patreon is the new Collection Plate. You wouldn't find a Latter-day Saint giving Jeff McCullough money in his churches collection plate, but he's cunning enough that he's appealing to the abused Latter-day Saint, that he's able to woo them by their own terms, and they're paying him in a different collection plate, he's made Patreon money selling them a warped view of the Book of Mormon and General Authorities talks and he's been able to move to Utah to further his work as a result of it.
In all fairness, The Stick of Joseph and Ward Radio, and the likes do the same thing. It's preaching to the people and asking for money to sustain themselves, sound familiar? Latter-day Saints don't do that, we believe in a lay ministry, we don't believe the Gospel is for sale, or out Bishops and Stake Presidents would be getting paid like other faiths, it's all voluntary service. If one of those demanded pay, they'd be released. Even the Seventy aren't paid. The Twelve and First Presidency are, in a way, but most of them worked for the CES so it's part of their retirement and they can justify it that way, but no one else is paid for their service. Missionaries pay for their own mission, they're not paid, but Jeff McCollough has found the New Age Religion Collection Plate, and he's wooing Latter-day Saints enough that he's found a way to make filthy lucre off of them in a way they wouldn't otherwise, who have eyes to see, do so. THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS NOT FOR SALE, ITS FREE TO ALL. But, Jeff has found a way otherwise. He reframes it as entertainment
I have no interest in Pastor Jeff, I already found my Jesus in the Church of JESUSCHRIST of LDS. Thank you David
David: you are a breath of fresh air. So amazed by your faith, knowledge and love for the Church. Incredible insights. Like you I’m a strong believer. I feel your voice is so needed. Thanks for your time and courage. Herm
You are so SPOT ON.
Yes there are people in "sheep's clothing" that are ravenous wolves.
Only the Holy Ghost can bear true witness of truth to our hearts and spirits.
Pastor Jeff needs TRUE guidance.
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The original pioneers came to Utah because they believed in the true Jesus Christ but pastor Jeff moved to Utah to lead the sheep away from the truth
I will follow the counsel of our prophet and listen to believers. Like you! 🙂
Thought Jeff's agenda was pretty obvious. The thing is... he can't offer the things our church has, and that's what truly makes our religion worthwhile. The inability to recognize the Book of Mormon as God's word should be a pretty strong indicator of the insight a person has into the mind of God (or simply put, whether or not they can hear the Spirit), and the clarity that book brings into the Gospel is a necessity. Folks, we can appreciate Jeff's efforts, but I'm looking for further light and knowledge, not less.
I quit watching him. I can see what he’s up too. I can feel what he’s up to.
I agree. Hos wife too. She pretends and it's written all over her imho.
Thank you, Brother David. Another great video, extremely well said. 🎯
Boom💥 mic 🎤 drop. Also because of your clarity on this I stopped listening to the "Jeffs".
In the Book of Mormon, Mormon 7: 8-9 says if they believe the Bible they will believe the Book of Mormon. No way to really know someone’s beliefs but makes me wonder about Jeff and others.
This was a wonderful podcast and what was said is absolutely 100 percent correct! Thank you for all of your thoughts on pastor Jeff and his teachings. I fully agree and appreciate you putting your thoughts out there for us to hear. I feel you are absolutely spot on :) again thank you!
You are correct one again! Thank you for your candor and insights.
Brother David, good day to you I followed hello Saints for a while and then dropped out unsubscribe but I have tuned in to where he's talking about the Book of Mormon I noticed especially in the books of Nephi the nose foundational gospel topics he just seemed to gloss over them and or seem t o not comprehend them or try to to avoid them all together and then he wanted to compare them to the new testament which is fine. He seems not comprehend or understand the fact Revelation has always been the same on subject matter throughout time and that Revelation is truth and what one dispensation was revealed to them would be the same in another . So he seems to want to minimize the importance of foundational Doctrine or perhaps he just does not comprehend it and it's been pretty much that way for one book to the next so I gave up on him
The adversary is cunning, wo unto those who allow themselves to be deceived. He that hath an ear to hear let him hear.
Hi Bro David It's so exciting to watch and listen to your faith and strength in the Lord Jesus Christ grow in understanding of the Lord's Gospel. I am excited along with many many others to hear of your amazing testimony after having entered the House of the Lord and there making covenants with the Lord.
If I could be so bold as to suggest some very interesting information in a concise manner presented about the Temple endownment given by Bro Bruce Porter found on UA-cam
Specifically "The Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi chapter 2" starting about 6:00 minutes in. Beaware...there are three parts. He does an amazing job correlating to all canon of scripture. I hoped it might help you to prepare for this amazing experience God Bless you in your earnest desires in understanding further light and knowledge. It will increase what you already have...which is an amazing repertoire if the Bible. Bro Lucas
What people may not realize is, the more people who watch his videos the more his videos get out there to the masses and the more chance the weak members he will be influenced and turn away
Thank you for your input on this, we need to keep our guard up and always be working on building our faith and testimony, not seeking to doubt or discredit it.
I really wanted to like Pastor Jeff’s teachings... but after listening to him “review” the Book of Mormon... I couldn’t feel the spirit, only darkness.
Pastor Jeff is building an “off ramp” not a “bridge.” Absolutely true!
Thank you, my friend! Keep helping my american brothers that waste time watching that which is not convenient.
I agree with you David
You dont need to have a conversation with Jeff. Why, you’ll be wasting your time.
Yes! Total waste of time.
That would be a temptation. So I understand why you can't watch him again.
Bless you David. President Nelson has taught that without the guidance of the Holy Ghost, we will not survive spiritually.
I watched pastor Jeff when he first began to investigate the Church, but it was obvious when he read the Book of Mormon that he had no intention of becoming a member of the Church.
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Thank you for your great insight. I don’t watch Hello Saints for all the points you explained. Keep up the good work.
So, couple questions for good ol pastor Jeff. When Christ taught and preached for 40 days before his ascension back to heaven, according to Acts chapter one, all he said was written. If all that is real scripture is already and only in the Bible, where are those written records of Christ after resurrection teaching? Or was that not real scripture? .... If Christ is also God and God is only spirit where the real resurrected body of Christ now? Did it plummet back to the earth as all watched him in real time ascend back to heaven? If we were made in God's image why are not all just glowing orbs of light? ... When Peter responded to Christ that he was the Christ, the true son of God and God stated that his testimony was from direct revelation from the father himself through personal revelation of the holy Spirit, which he referred to as the rock in which he would build his church, the spiritual confirmation, not Peter the man, why is it not necessary today to use the very same confirmation by the spirit to verify anything else that is or may not be of God? Did the apostles of old write and teach all that they did in their day from there own mental thought alone? With no input or communication at all from the spirit? If you agree that it could have only been scriptural if received through the spirit directly from the father then, if we ask sincerely, will the father nowadays ignore our questions about what is true of him and what is not? And if you agree that spiritual confirmation comes to all men that ask of sincere faith then why does anyone need you to superspeed the spirit to it being YOU to confirm what is true and if God, or not? Answer please ok wise one Master,,,sorry,,,pastor Jeffy
And Jacob chapter 7, we are introduced to a man named Sherem " who had a perfect knowledge of the language of the people and could use much flattery and much power of speech according to the power of the devil. And he had hope to shake me from the faith..."
I like how you end your videos with a prayer. It goes to show how sincere you truly are. I watch a lot of other UA-cam videos from all the other LDS creators and there are a lot out there, and you seem to be great at what you are doing.
Let us all continue to pray for pastor Jeff to be more receptive to the promptings of the Holy Ghost to him ( pastor Jeff didn't realized that he accidentally follows the Holy Ghost prompting to him to relocate tu Utah as a start for him to find the Heavenly Truth).