I Lost in the First 5 min...AKA how NOT to Race in the Rain

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  • Опубліковано 11 сер 2023
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  • @pjetrs
    @pjetrs 11 місяців тому +29

    This video is perfectly timed with the rainy WC in Glasgow. It really gives a good perspective how much these conditions change the whole race

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 11 місяців тому +64

    I'm terrified of racing in the rain, I wouldn't have even lined up. You're a better man than me.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +19

      hearing the hiss as everyone was letting air out their tires, knew it was going to be a slip-n-slide

    • @unsaved_
      @unsaved_ 11 місяців тому +19

      @lexington476 sometimes you just have to make a business decision. There's just no use in potentially ruining your favorite kit, let alone your bike or health.

    • @lexington476
      @lexington476 11 місяців тому +5

      @@unsaved_ I like your username. exactly, I have had way too many injuries from cycling. I will not ride or race in the rain. now don't get me wrong I have been rained on during races, if it's just a short-term rain I'm fine, especially if it's a ride, road race or a TT.
      One road race that does come to mind, was probably a three lap ~45 Mi total race, halfway through the first lap we get a good drizzle on us. I didn't drop out because the road was sketchy, I dropped out because my prescription glasses got so fogged up I couldn't see. And I'm so nearsighted, that taking them off would be of no benefit either 🙂.
      But like what was on this course, no I would have passed. it's a sunk cost.

    • @malte0n
      @malte0n 11 місяців тому +4

      I love racing in the wet even though the peleton drives dangerous it's just the way you race for yourself in my opinion

    • @lexington476
      @lexington476 11 місяців тому +1

      @@malte0n oh I by no means bash people that racing the rain. I know the limitations of my courage. And while I consider myself a pretty decent bike handler, I know I'm not the best. Plus if my prescription sports sunglasses get covered in too much spray then I can't see 😎🤓🧐🤓🧐.

  • @walterstoops2671
    @walterstoops2671 11 місяців тому +4

    I raced on this course back in the late 1970’s. We went in the opposite direction and went behind the school between it and the football field. The school owned that piece of the road and they put a fence across it. We then went up on onto Crescent Street where the race is now. It was too much of a hassle to do that , so we moved elsewhere. ( Back that, at least in Illinois, we had to ware white socks over the ankle and hairnet helmets.)

    • @garysladek9110
      @garysladek9110 11 місяців тому

      I think Christian Vande Velde's father had a hand in developing this course. Cheers

  • @defiantparsnip
    @defiantparsnip 11 місяців тому +1

    Always good to have some perspective about what to do when the race goes wrong!

  • @kevinfrikitona
    @kevinfrikitona 11 місяців тому +2

    That was a fast start! Could you tell us about warming up in the next video? (How much time, intensity) thank I in advance jeff! Great video as always, greetings from Argentina

  • @davidnicholson6680
    @davidnicholson6680 11 місяців тому +8

    I was there for most of the day. It was a hot, clear, sunny day and then suddenly started to rain just before the elites. Terrible timing.

  • @jonathanwise47
    @jonathanwise47 11 місяців тому +1

    Start position can be everything. I've learned this many times. Another day; another race!

  • @henryefry
    @henryefry 11 місяців тому

    I had race in a parking lot that was all tight turns in the rain. Managed to get right up in the front in the lineup. The first lap was killer for people in the back of the pack, second turn there was a crash mid pack and that was it for the back 2/3rds of the field.

  • @cgbach
    @cgbach 11 місяців тому +1

    That’s my high school, Glenbard West. Wish I could’ve been there! My dad came up to you and didn’t know who you were. He was wearing a Mondrian styled shirt. He asked me later if I knew who you were 😆. I told him I’ve been watching you for years!

  • @williamrhardin
    @williamrhardin 11 місяців тому +10

    5:30 Thanks for not running over me! I chose a funny place to lay down😂

    • @tuna_buoy
      @tuna_buoy 11 місяців тому +3

      Will, less break dancing during a race please

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +3

      thanks for giving me a thumbnail pic will 😅. brutal way to start the series

    • @h31sman
      @h31sman 11 місяців тому

      What caused you to crash? It looked like a straightaway in that area for the most part.

    • @williamrhardin
      @williamrhardin 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@h31smanwater on the paint! A touch of counter steer and the bike was just gone, was not an expected place for me either

    • @williamrhardin
      @williamrhardin 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@tuna_buoy on it tuan! 😅

  • @MyWorldRS
    @MyWorldRS 11 місяців тому

    love your vids 🙂 cant help to wonder if you over there have most sonny/dry days riding, and tyre setup/compound/presuere in the rain is not as dialed in for everybody in the peleton. God race - many on the limit. You can spot loads of rear-tyre spidding ovver the painted lines here and there

  • @peterers3
    @peterers3 11 місяців тому +5

    So in the current situation as a roadie you should probably take 32- 45 mm summer tyres put them on your rims in order to race fast corners in pouring rain.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +5

      ideally go as wide as your frame allows in this case, but changing tires when the rain started coming down 20 min before the race is unfeasible. instead, i just let out a bunch of air, down to like 55ish PSI

    • @MediumHalf
      @MediumHalf 11 місяців тому +1

      @@NorCalCyclingyou tubeless or tubed? Just curious as to what people tend to run in races like this

    • @boredmartymcfly6099
      @boredmartymcfly6099 11 місяців тому +3

      @@MediumHalfHe’s tubeless now. Trying to run 55psi in tubes is deadly 😂.

  • @theh2ohammer372
    @theh2ohammer372 11 місяців тому +1

    I was waiting for a group jumping montage with some good chasing music.

  • @aaronpkeating
    @aaronpkeating 11 місяців тому +1

    Seems like "steady is smooth, and smooth is fast" is a more accurate shorthand? Minimizing power spikes (steady) = more efficient riding (smooth) = more energy available (fast).

  • @MikeK02048
    @MikeK02048 11 місяців тому +4

    You mentioned how call ups are so important. And you said at the end to "line up better". For those of us who don't race, what does this mean? How do you get "called up" so you can start at the front? Is it based on national rankings? Just how does one "line up better"? Is it first come, first served, and you can start closer to the front (i.e., get there early)? Exactly how does this all work?

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +2

      depends on the event, but this one is pretty typical - top ten get called up to the front, the rest just depend on how early you get to the start line

  • @ramilleheavenlou1868
    @ramilleheavenlou1868 11 місяців тому

    Which bike ?
    Did you use your Tcr on this race ?

  • @peterers3
    @peterers3 11 місяців тому +4

    Why isnt there the option for rain/ winter or summer / sun tyres for bicycles? Most roadies only take their aero road bike out when the weather is nice and Continental and Michelin are big Tyre brands. Pirelli too...

    • @ChiTownBrownie89
      @ChiTownBrownie89 11 місяців тому +3

      when the tires are that skinny it really doesnt matter.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +1

      It’s more about width , tube/tubeless and pressure. In challenging conditions like this you want as wide as your frame allows, tubeless, and low pressure. Something like 32c, tubeless, 55psi depending on your weight and “squish” tolerance in the corners

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 11 місяців тому

      @@NorCalCyclingthat might be your best options with what’s available, but I agree with the OP, there’s no reason in principle a good rain tyre shouldn’t be available for a road bike

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +1

      Point I was trying to make is there’s nothing inherently “rain/winter” about a race tire, it’s just a normal race tire that is wider, tubeless and lower pressure. They do sell ones for training, the conti 4 season for example, that have better puncture protection and durability but they’re not considered performance race tires. Hope that helps

    • @chickenpoodle
      @chickenpoodle 11 місяців тому +1

      bicycle tires are too skinny for hydroplaning to be a factor, and our tire temperatures do not get up high enough for rubber compounds to be a factor between the different weather and riding conditions. a race tire for a bike is the same, for dry or for wet.
      then you'll get your "winter" tires being the ones with tread so you can gain traction, especially those you can screw in studs, for example.

  • @s.jatighetchi9021
    @s.jatighetchi9021 11 місяців тому

    Assume you’re using 28mm tires & lower pressure than normal hopefully?

  • @towhee7472
    @towhee7472 11 місяців тому

    Bike racing in the rain is hell.

  • @georgehugh3455
    @georgehugh3455 11 місяців тому +2

    Maybe discretion being the better part of valor, that day. Glad you stayed upright.

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 11 місяців тому +3

    Imagine if everyone except a few, at the front, were on rim brakes, and it was 2016, or 2017.

    • @billkallas1762
      @billkallas1762 11 місяців тому

      @Isabella-tf1qc there is no god
      Fixed it.

  • @bjafonso
    @bjafonso 11 місяців тому

    Where to find that gps overlay? What’s the software?

  • @samholder196
    @samholder196 11 місяців тому +4

    looks insanely dangerous, tbf

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak 11 місяців тому +2

    I'll race in the rain, but only if its coming down in sheets. This drizzle is not a good time.

  • @TheDennzio
    @TheDennzio 11 місяців тому

    Did a 100 mile RR in the rain once. The nice thing about that is you can pee in your bibs and nobody knows.

  • @Alan_Hans__
    @Alan_Hans__ 11 місяців тому

    White lines, rain and brakes are an awful combination. There was a few back wheels skipping out on corners just in that short video.

  • @therondc
    @therondc 11 місяців тому

    Has Jeff mentioned what team he is racing for now?

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +3

      just racing solo for intelli, back to mikes bikes now

  • @sylvaingilson7091
    @sylvaingilson7091 11 місяців тому

    Symphony of disc brakes 😂

  • @AnthonyHolloway612
    @AnthonyHolloway612 11 місяців тому +1

    2:16 Slow is Smooth and Smooth is Fast?

    • @Martin-ls9bz
      @Martin-ls9bz 11 місяців тому +5

      First time huh?

    • @jamesm4833
      @jamesm4833 11 місяців тому +2

      Peaking up to 1000 Watts every corner might be fast for a few seconds but its neither smooth nor fast since its not sustainable.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +3

      yes.

    • @AnthonyHolloway612
      @AnthonyHolloway612 11 місяців тому +1

      Alright! I’ll buy it!

  • @lisashiela9137
    @lisashiela9137 11 місяців тому

    Those dreaded wet paint stripes would be enough reason for me to back off, yikes.

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 11 місяців тому +2

    0:37 wait, you didn't get a UA-cam Influencer call up 🙂...

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому +1

      lol no chance, also wouldn't accept it if they gave it to me

  • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
    @SonnyDarvishzadeh 11 місяців тому +1

    if I see dubious clouds in the sky, I won't go out for any bike ride, let alone a crit race! 😂 I refuse to accept such race took place without anyone falling.

  • @bodhidebaat5443
    @bodhidebaat5443 11 місяців тому

    I love racing in the rain!

    • @2011hwalker
      @2011hwalker 11 місяців тому +1

      do you like trashing your bike?? Its utterly ridiculous to do an amateur crit in the rain.

  • @jeffhansen5366
    @jeffhansen5366 11 місяців тому

    stopped racing in the rain as i got older, not worth it

  • @outlawburgerontheloose
    @outlawburgerontheloose 11 місяців тому

    No one anyone would be going that slow around corners if y'all were using rim breaks in those conditions

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  11 місяців тому

      no one or anyone? rim brakes with carbon wheels are notoriously bad at braking, it's the worst combination

  • @ASHMAN750
    @ASHMAN750 11 місяців тому

    First you do when you fenish pound a beer

  • @zachsummers3321
    @zachsummers3321 11 місяців тому

    Don't mind riding in the rain. Road bike with 25mm can get a little sketchy my fx2 with 37mm unstoppable

  • @Sportsandfun-yt1rw
    @Sportsandfun-yt1rw 11 місяців тому

    I will race I race any way and I’m 11

  • @RedShipsofSpainAgain
    @RedShipsofSpainAgain 11 місяців тому +2

    Start position should NOT be as important as it clearly is at most of these intelligentsia races.
    Any race where your start position on the line basically decides your finishing position is a race that is way too congested and it's dumb to set yourself up literally to fail before the race even starts.
    Why set yourself up for failure? In these super technical courses, if i can't get to the start line ahead of everyone else, it's not even worth starting the race because it quickly devolves into exactly what this footage demonstrates: a wet, crash-filled roller derby st show where the break is going to get a full minute on the pack and they'll never be seen again. Stupid. It's not even a real race: only a race to get to the start line before the call ups. Such a dumb race.

  • @federicosbetta1368
    @federicosbetta1368 11 місяців тому

    hey Jeff, you appeared on today's GCN Italia video ua-cam.com/video/537jLkR66Ps/v-deo.html

  • @rolfdavis4433
    @rolfdavis4433 11 місяців тому

    Average Dutch crit

  • @brendonmadden-smith
    @brendonmadden-smith 11 місяців тому

    blah blah blah