Big Turbo MK7 Golf R taps out.
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2022
- We get our salvage MK7 Golf R on the dyno. We make the most power we have on a stock engine MK7 R but things take a turn for the worst.
Next video will have more details of what took place.
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You win some you lose some...more to come.
Could you please tell us what tool you use to tune ignition timing etc? (BFlash, Dimsport)
@@exquisitecars1048 Eurodyne on this one
you guys ship merch to the us?
@@COMotorsports thanks for the response! Keep the awesome vids coming
@@theoldtlrrider fo sho!
So what we have proved here is that the 1.8t Never Lose?
This car engine its overdue 160k miles lol
I currently have an 01 Audi A4 1.8T with a K04 20psi and methanol injection that has right about 200,000 miles on it. I drive it every day and not all that nice to it. I have a gt28 for it but I also have everything I need to rebuild it, which is getting done soon.
@@4BillC 260k miles over 14 years making 500whp in a MK1, 1.8BT ftw. drop in rods(aged arp 625 fasteners), re-used pistons with fresh rings and a light hone. OEM bearings.the amount of track time I have on it is crazy, as well as daily duties and cross country. Def an incredible engine the 1.8t20v, but my '17R has been incredible for it's 75k miles so far.
@@UngluckInc that's what's up! That's basically my plan! H-beam rods, stock pistons new rings and bearing. Going to keep the stock valves but upgrade the springs (only bit I don't have yet) just so I can rev a bit more. I currently have the rev limited to 6800 just because I'm scared of valve float. I want to be comfortable at 7500.
Methanol for everyone.
You guys always doing great R & D and looking for the limit. Really enjoy the vids! Looking forward to the comeback 💪💪💪
Much appreciated. Thanks for following along
@@COMotorsports only one way to find the limit and that's to break it. limits are made to be broken. You did a fine job. what was the weak link? My money is on a rod bolt...
@@louwgreeff4195 we have a follow up video on this. Wasn't a rod bolt.
Had to come back and re-watch this video to refresh my memory about everything that transpired with this engine. Love this stuff!
I did the same. We had plans to have fun but clearly they got cut short lol.
Back again..... Yes mate!
Oh man, I was thinking we'd see the 'splosion 😁
1.8hoopt must be the true O.G💪
I feel bad for all the work you guys put in it. Great video! It would be nice if you could just slide the 1.8t into it lol
We already talked about it. Lol I'm gonna sit and chill on it for a bit before I make any decisions. This was supposed to be a quick go have some fun project and It's been a huge undertaking and it's time we could have been working on the drag car.
Dang about 169,000 miles I bet refreshing the motor a little and changing the oil would’ve helped! Good content tho!
Not for what I was chucking at it. lol
i’d love to see some audi content at some point, i saw one peeking in through the driveway!
We'll have some coming up.
@@COMotorsports 3.0t 👀
I love turbo 4 cylinders but damn we ask a lot of them. Sometimes they hold up, sometimes they don’t. Metal fatigues.
I think this one was partial part failure (sensor) and greed that killed this one. More in the next video.
Well, it held well. Well I would love to see the actual boom😅
Also it is really high mileage engine, I van bet that it would held a bit more if it was less mileage
We'll have a breakdown in the next video of what could have happened, also lots of carnage.
maxing out an engine and turbo just like he got the car without changing the oil since he picked it up from SALVAGE!!! 🫣
@@mazpr2025 who cares. Its all in the name of science😅
"Engine let go.." 👍
Damnnn what an unexpected ending 😭
Cant let all those goodies go to waste!!! Spare motor with internals for the redemption!!! Did u guys use pump gas or a mix of e85? I love this channel for vw content!!!!
This was e70. Much appreciated.
Does the ibside of your block now have a great view of the radiator?
All that footage is coming. Worst failure I've had yet... Period.
How much boost were you running when it let go?
Hope it will be come back to life 😢
We're debating on that. We'll take suggestions on the next video.
The bad O2 sensor and cutting out you mention, is that common? I seem to be running through O2 sensors fairly regularly (three in the last two years) and no one has been able to figure out why the car will just give up mid-pull. We’ve replaced my wastegate actuator thinking that was the problem. The turbo itself doesn’t have a ton of miles (under 10,000) and the internal wastegate still seems good but when it’s deep in a pull it will just release all pressure like the wastegates opening.
If it matters I have a fully built bottom end but the head was rebuilt with stock parts at the recommendation of the shop that did the rebuild.
Prior to the rebuild it made 458whp on 91. Now it’s making 375whp on E85 and it’s stumping everyone.
sounds like you have been shafted bud
Damn that's frustrating. Idk what that could be. Hopefully it's not the same issue this one has/had heh
Not typically but like anything in a car things fail. What vehicle are you referring too?
@@COMotorsports 2016 Golf R. It has a pretty extensive build sheet but not everything is meshing together for some reason.
@@itschefff You shouldn't be eating through sensors, especially if you have an OE frame style turbine housing. If you have something aftermarket and the sensors in a weird location or getting water on it then that will take them out.
Nooo!, hopefully next motor got less miles she should hold fine under that power level i make more :)❤️ goodluck guys
Don't think it was the mileage that did this one in. Lol
Are the Mk7 GTIs engines about as stout as the Rs? Or does the rotating assembling get extra love?
About the same.
@@COMotorsports thanks for the response guys! Keep making awesome content. Your editing is on point.
Dang , that sucks ! Especially after all money and hard work .. I say go built motor atp lol
Meant to be I guess, we'll see what we do with it. Breakdown video will be next.
another day at the dyno, come back stronger with a 700whp build...
Throw a rod? Was the block stock? Great video, interesting watch
Stock, watch the previous video.
@@COMotorsports can you really push this block to 600 ? Gathering this motor had some underlying issues
@@42cuba It's been done, not recommended. Although I was getting greedy with boost I believe the 02 sensor issue was it's demise unfortunately.
@@COMotorsports yeah I've heard. If the sensor was right imagine the possibilities! Dang. Next motor replicate it. Can't blame the block, that's pretty damn strong for handling the inconsistent readings thrown at it. All the chat about the 1.8 being better, I'm not so sure about that
@@42cuba out of the box this thing is way better with simple mods. But there are plenty of 1k HP 1.8ts out there... None of these. But give it time. Lol
How did you guys like the boss750? Considering picking up a used R early 23 as these prices start to drop. Thinking of doing a "low budget" R build with a stock/catted downpipe, stock motor, stage 3 clutch, boss750, MPI, and an LPFP. I once had an IMS710 R with a DQ500, but that was completely unregisterable and it broke axles constantly (and a lot of other shit). Looking to build something more tame, manual, and daily-able. 500ish whp and 420ish torque.
I think for 500whp, Go smaller.
@@COMotorsports hybrid? Personally not an EQT guy, but have been looking into TPC as a potential option. APR offering is okay, the garret unit has a ton of surge down low.. I assume you recommend the XL?
@@workingemail2218 what fuel?
@@COMotorsports E85
@@workingemail2218 for 500whp no more is so the Vortex standard. The power band is very broad. About 600rpm sooner TQ over XL. Doesn't sound like much but that's a difference of a few hundred TQ down low.
Ooof. Gonna build the spare or throw it in stock?
Unknown at this point... it's already out as you can actually see in the beginning of the video. lol
Rip 😢
RIP in the chat. lol
Sometimes you fly too close to the sun.....
As much as I'm ok with it being my fault from greed lol. I think the 02 issue was the culprit but with this much carnage it's impossible to say unfortunately.
What was the pump fuel you used? ;-)
E70 is what we ended up at.
What's up with that 2.5 in the backround?
Turbo. Hitting dyno soon
What was the final boost and timing? For when you hit 500+
It broke at less boost then I was running it at. Timing was whatever it liked.
@@COMotorsports over 36 psi?
@@imaudizz it broke around there. We had it higher.
Kinda like a slot machine just a little more than a little more 😆
There's a giant slot through the middle of the block.
@@COMotorsportsAt least I know that my car up for abuse in stock form 😁 once the warranty is up I'll up the power.
@@justingravelle3649 proper thing.
can u show result in NM sometimes?
Not the standard here in North America. Just do the conversion if you're curious.
No footage of the engine letting go?!?!?
How was the spool
We talk about it and you can see on the dyno graphs.
Motors stok ho forgé please sir just one dors in ok the golf 7 R is one motors forger mie is twin turbo the 4 cylinder audi love it twin turbo
Hello CO Motorsports! My name is Timothy and I have a minty mint 2016 Jetta Sport 1.8T completely stock. I want to build my car up towards Stage 2/3. Is it possible to start with a stage 2 tune, intake, exhaust and then later install a big Stage 3+ Turbo Intercooler setup. I am 34 and I am currently fighting severe skin cancer and I would love your help/guidance. Please get back to me. Tim H.
Sorry to hear Tim, typical turbo upgrade for these is GTI or Golf R turbo. Whatever software you start with just ensure they offer a turbo file for those turbos so you're not purchasing different software down the road.
the panel gap on the passenger door is a bit off
Claytons fault
Should of quit when it made 530 and when it started trimming timing and you had onset of knock
No fun in that. Also knock is not what wrecked it.
Noooo!
Pushing an engine with 170,000 miles on it without even changing the oil 😂.
DAZA swap time??
If you're paying, no problem.
NOOOOOOOO MONICAAAAAAAAA
I had a similar feeling.
@@COMotorsports unfortunate, really wanted to see it rip down the track
@@barborisov Imagine how I feel. lol Insert cry emoji. lol
@@COMotorsports broken block=broken heart
580 WHP ? = 650+ HP
554whp so yeah close to that in crank.
That damn intake manifold design sucks. I wish they would fix the flap mechanism.
Guess maybe it was leaned on just a smidge too much... 🤷♂️
We bit aggressive yes. Lol
I know whats wrong with it, it aint got no 1.8t in it.
The ending was kinda like Game of Thrones 🤷🏻♂️... disappointing and no answers 😕... see ya next episode ✌
It was a lot for one episode. It's coming.
to keep you on the edge of the seat
that baby threw a rid and put a whole in the block. sucks.
What's the point of racing front wheel drive car?
It's useless.
If you drop 200hp you might be able to even put down that power
For one this is an AWD car. Lol And two FWD drag cars can 60ft extremely well with the right setup.
Anything after the vr6 and 1.8t is junk
This is the most reliable vw engine lok
@@jaxxone4907 I hope your joking
VR6 over everything, but I would happily run a 2.0 over a 1.8 all day.
It’s not like he’s pushing over 500 whp on a almost 300,000 km engine that been abused before. Bro these engines are actually really good if you know how to take care of it. I have a mk7r stage 2 fbo and never had a problem at like 73k miles ish
And he’s pushing it way more the other people have, I have never seen anyone push like 530 plus on these stocks engines that’s like really pushing
At least your EA888 went out on a big turbo build… mine went out on a stock turbo and tune @ 60K mikes (EA888 gen 2 from 2016 Q5). These engines are garbage.
Just because yours busted it’s garbage?😂😂😂😂
Very much disagree. I have several customers running 500+whp daily. If your engine crapped out, there was something else involved (bad tune, bad maintenance, bad parts, etc.).
@@deciplesteve agreed
Definitely disagree these guys pushed a high mileage dirty engine oil car. This happens. These engines are super strong an exact 500hp big turbo build is definitely a daily for this car. Being able to add 200 hp and stay dependable is definitely a thing for these cars
Bullshit. Have literally hundreds of customers with GEN3s running my tune, 3xx, 4xx, 5xxWHP, all for years and no issues at all. Tune these engines daily and no issues at all, have owned 3 GEN3 cars, Cupra 265, S3 8V, A1 1.8TSI GEN3 and all of them with upgraded turbos and making hundreds of horsepower more than stock with no issues at all
Thats because its the most unreliable biggest POS platform ive ever seen. Just spun a bearing myself. Fuk this thing im so done with it. Anything past 600 whp and these things will break and thats with a fully built motor and fuel system just garbage STEER CLEAR!!!!!!!!
You clearly haven't modified many VWs. lol Cause there's way worse.
@@COMotorsports no I’ve modified this one and it’s a total POS platform
@@COMotorsports Doesnt get any worse than a Turbo, two cams, boost controller, cam buttom, cam magnet, fouled plugs, bad coil and now a blown motor all in 3 months! Yea, its GARBAGE.
To anyone reading this STEER CLEER of this platform if u wanna go fast!
@@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK And I will add to that based on my experience modify pretty near every VW engine over the years. For anyone reading this. Out of all the VW engines out there these are the easiest to make power on reliably.
@@COMotorsports I agree to 500 hp. Then its a ticking time bomb..... BOOM