Creativity is a curse as much as it's a blessing. Always, mentally exhausting, forever chasing perfection, never settling on current achievement, never satisfied with current output.
@@adrianaadnan7704 for me its being lost; in the mental state of FLOW, search it up. The time dissolves. Also I like to make random things and find meaning in them (abstract stuff).also I love psychology and philosophy and thinking in general.
I had stopped writing to be more practical and my anxiety and depression, after getting on top of it for a while, came back and I started drinking waay too much. I made a commitment to finish all my writing projects while working a full time job and boom, I'm laughing everyday. What the hell XD
I don’t create to be rich or famous . I create simply because I have to . It’s my purpose . Not for anyone else . For myself . and I chose to share it even if it doesn’t sell . But I do sell some . That is a bonus . I have to do this to settle my mind and soul and feel like I’m honoring my inner voice , respecting my soul . It levels me out .
BlackhawkX02 I tell people this all the time when they try n downplay artist. Without artist %70 of media, entertainment, businesses. Automobile industry n even buildings wouldn’t exist. For all artist that’s enough inspiration right there. It’s a field that will never die although highly competitive
Indeed! Take all the artists away and the rest of the world would quickly be asking for them to come back when there were suddenly no movies, television shows, music, books, etc.
@@jamesroshe2540 Hahahaha "Yes, guys I'm an artist. That's right. So noble, despite the fact that businesses pay them crap. Did I mention that I'm also extraordinarily humble?"
The biggest curse of being creative, is not only can you think of really good uplifting things, that creativity enables you to think the darkest thoughts of all.
@@Alexandar358 Yes I can do that and I've got better at it as I have got older but I think we are the lucky ones because too many can't do it. Not all are really bad, but there is a range of anxieties that happen, none of which are good for your long-term well-being.
My flying highs and deepest lows are when I’m most creative 😄 Art is definitely my outlet and my answer to life. Without it, it would be like planting a seed that spouts no flower.
dina kalo to be fair, I also think it is exaggerated, but as a musician myself, in the 10 years that I have meeting other creative people, if 90% of them didn’t have issues of some kind, then my name is not Michael Ortega. And I can tell you this also, why express yourself through art, if you don’t have the emotional need to do so? There is always a reason why some humans rather speak via art than using words and it usually is highly meaningful and emotionally bound.
@@d1i9n2a2 Because, they're kids with no real responsibility, supported by parents and who still believe they world is theirs for the taking and a bright future awaits. Maybe 1% will 'make it' the rest will be pushed by the harsh reality of life into some field they will accept, while recounting ad nauseam in later years how they wanted to be a creative of some kind.
@@d1i9n2a2 he doesnt said that, it doesnt help your art, its not an stereotype, but its more common in people who are really creatives at full. As he said, people that if they dont do or can't do their thing they feel miserable. And because adversitity its common, but with the real groups of artist who know they were born to do specifically something. Real artist are philosophers too. Its not a stereotype, but very common in real artist. Obviusly it has nothing to do with art.
@@AnnaLVajda Yes, I starved when I was young, left home as a teenager with $250, went to work, possibly under $3/ hour, used like a slave, went long stretches without work. Even when I made more money later, I had a hard time feeding myself. Restaurants from Friday payday, by Wednesday it was bread and peanut butter, drive up the mountain to work, turn off the truck to coast home, wrestle the steering wheel without power steering. I did some fasting many years ago. Now, I am slowly getting into intermittent fasting, along with a high nutrition Ketogenic diet.
You must have thought I was doing stand up, I was sitting down, and that was my true feeling as a teenager, living on $2 and $3 an hour, on my own. I went hungry a lot, and got extremely stressed out if there was any lack, memories from going long periods without food. I wanted to write, but I first became a carpenter, and later an electrical lineman. You sound like a boy, probably never experienced want. Get ready, the American Bolshevic Revolution is slowly getting in full swing, (Headline: "Public University Gives Chinese Communists Funding, Exclusive Rights to Intellectual Concepts, Trademarks, Inventions"), and all Americans will suffer the same starvation the Russians suffered when they were first conquered. It took the Russians 70 years to throw off the brutal dictatorship. The brutal dictators got thrown out, not the figurehead, but the bankers running things from behind the scene. Soviet America will be harder to conquer, technology has evolved. The Communists, the Soviets, the Nazis, the Zionists, they are the same crowd, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, Soros, the groups are their hand puppets. Some of the first people to get a bullet in the head, and a backhoe trip to the bottom of a trench were the supporters of the revolution. If you are a young twerp pushing for them, find a REAL history book. If you are a supporter, just know you will be among the first to be eradicated.
@Daniel Moore I thought I would say, I got over my anxiety of starving. I used to fast, for spiritual purposes, so I was secretive about it, but no concern like that today, it was over 40 years ago. I water fasted 2 days a week, and worked hard as a carpenter. I fasted Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday. It was very positive for my life. Nonetheless, as a few years later, Jimmy Carter got us in a condition of Prime Rate being 25%, no work at all. It's not just food, but money for gas. Many of my jobs were an hour and a half drive, and there were always necessary tools to buy. The current strategy is intermittent fasting, OMAD. If interested, respond, and I'll talk about it.
Creative people first need to find something that they can get paid for, a normal job that requires creativity! Thats it..then you do not starve, creativity comes out of being comfortable, its when you don’t have to starve so that your mind opens for creativity. I’m almost 32 and it took me time to find a very decent job, ive made myself very comfortable and the job uses me for creativity and gives me lots of down time to keep thinkering on my own ideas and side projects and I keep bouncing around ideas with other creative folks in the company. I fast on weekends when no one needs my energy. Its not easy to find but it is if your think creatively. You might be very creative I believe, problem solve each step of the way to greatness my friend, you can do it! Just being an artist or a crafts man wont help much, you have to learn and be creative in all subjects..you have to be from a philosopher, to a psychologist, to an artist, to an inventor, to a business man, to a sales man, to a marketer, to a pit-bull..then you might, just might succeed and creative people are init for Sanity not success and thats the curse of creativity, its a gift to those who have found how to channel it.
So true. Every time I get sick of my day job, I'm coming back to this video to remind myself it's okay to have hobbies and not make art my life's work. I have to live with being creative, but I dont have to die poor because of it, lol
As an artist I can totally relate to this. Powerful speech! This should not discourage you from creativity but inspire you to be more smart about it if you want to build something serious with it.
I'ts horrible not having the financial resources to monetize great oil paintings or brilliant pastels. So like me, artists work a day job, or two jobs.....you come home after a long day and try to settle into a creative drawing or oil painting mindset and, more often than not, you've dozed off from the exhaustive day. So, in searching for the quick financial fix many artists like myself fall victim to online "get rich quick schemes"....or, playing the lottery. For me, it's not always easy inviting people over to our house because the first question/response from them is..."Oh My God, did you do these incredible paintings?!"...."You could be SO RICH!" .....Very unnerving to say the least. But I just keep trying ... staying in good shape, running, taking supplements...and painting.
You need to do what you can with what you got and build from that. Resources will come. Doors will open. You build the bridge just like a spider builds his net, from itself.
if i stop being creative then i feel like I've died inside. Everyone around me notices im different when i stop. People struggle to understand why i just give most things i make away to people. To truly creative people its not about money its about sanity. If a creative friend or family member gives you a creation of theirs receive it with much joy which makes us happy...and maybe offer them a little sum for it even to cover new materials 😉
If you are creative share your creativity only with creative people because non creative people will not understand. I found that I am much happier when I don't share my creativity with people that don't have an open mind and the freedom to wonder beyond their physical thought of existence. I hope that makes sense.
This is exactly why I created my youtube channel. I found myself depressed at my current job. I did what he said and had a sales job for 13 years and did filmmaking on the side until it was too much. I quit my job and now I am a fulltime filmmaker and digital marketer looking to help Kingdom Creatives with content marketing. one thing that I think he forgot to factor in is that there has never been a better time in history to monetize your creativity. even with music. but you cant go about it the traditional way, you have to build your own audience, learn how to drive traffic, make offers and be consistent. its work, but its never been more open to the creative. I believe we are living in the age of creativity and I want to help Gods people experience it!
I've always had people telling me .. oh.. you are so good in that thing.. you should start doing that.. you are so lucky.. I've always said.. if you knew how cruel it is to think and live like I do.. if I could some how transfer my anxiety , depression and every other emotion into you .. you'd say otherwise.. But to speak the truth it's a curse I'm glad I have..
@DrScream well, what seems and probably is simple for you, is difficult or impossible for others. So...why not combine talents so things can be manifested directly into the 3D reality from the depth of the creative field of potential
This is where it all falls down Being creative isn't only writing painting drawing etc You have to CREATE a business then Businesses CREATE jobs jobs CREATE incomes etc etc Those that work CREATE an income which helps CREATE a life, toCREATE a home, to CREATE a family etc etc etc EVERYONE is CREATION & CREATES in some way shape or form ... So to say everyone isn't creative & those that are the creative 1s are smarter, shows how dumb/ignorant anyone that says/thinks this are Said with much Love Kindness and Respect to all ✌⚡💖
Maybe that employers ego was threatened by another's more creative ideas. Maybe the creative idea contradicted the status quo. Maybe it was many things. Maybe you shouldn't jump to such a comclusion.
You have to be very careful - particularly if you are highly creative, highly educated, and are possibly a threat to the people who are hiring you, managing you, and supervising you. If you are really dynamic, you could be perceived as a threat to their own job security. You have to be very careful how you reveal your creativity. Sometimes it is best if you work for yourself - or you choose a field where you can really shine - without being in direct competition with other people in a work environment. For instance... book authors - public speakers - entertainers -- can focus on their strengths... but there will be a point where they have to work well with others. You really have to work on all skills - you can't totally bypass working with others. Even best selling authors will have editors, publishers, people booking them for public appearances, talk show hosts, etc... You really have to get along with other people - no matter what field you are in.
@@cynthiahamil9801 i'm a digital imaging professional. I went to work for an art publishing company who manufactured fine art products for their own retail galleries. They were using 19th century litho presses to create product. To enhance my skill I took on large format landscape photography. When they saw what I was able to produce, they wanted me to shoot all kinds of scenes around the city. They had been promoting another photographer for a few years and they were starting to build a market for his work. However he used a much smaller format and the results were much less. They wanted to use me, my equipment and have this other photographer sign his name to the work and take the credit. I told them no. This was my creation. Why would I let this other guy take all the glory and royalties for the work produced with my creative decisions. The aftermath was not pretty. Lots of screaming arguments, lots of F You! A year later I found myself out of a job.
I'm a mom and a creative. It's emotionally devastating not having time to really put a lot of thought into things and actually sit down and create them. You start to feel like you lose yourself.
Being a mom it's difficult, but precisely for that you need to choose, if you choose to play videogames you can't blame on not having time to create. Resistance maybe? Read "the war of art" if you want to know more. Good luck.
Creativity breeds fear and mistrust among those lacking the intellectual capacity to understand innovation. Including those who are uncomfortable with progress or who wish to maintain the status quo.
5:28 "Find a way to make money, then practice your craft on the side". Yep, good advice. I would just add, sometimes the "money job" can gobble up all your time. You get home, stressed, anxious, tired, and the last thing you want to do is pursue anything else, other than winding down and relaxing.
If you're super creative, you won't stand doing nothing. I sometimes wake up at 5:40 am and stay at college till 11 pm and it's not that I have the energy it's that I cannot not do the things I wanna do.
Excatly, its super difficult to work full time jobs to pay rent and eat AND THEN also work on a creative project. A lot of people seem to forget that as human beings we need to sleep acertsain amount of hours or else our health goes down and if our health goes down then we cant work properly and not working properly just adds more and more issues... I mean, there is a way, but it's really really difficult
I was a touring musician/singer-songwriter for years. I made no money, I was stressed out. It was 10 percent music and 90 percent marketing, planning, distributing, promoting etc etc etc. I stopped paying in bands and I do miss being on stage, however, I still play and sing every day. I'm much happier just doing it for myself.
I knew a number of jobbing musos, who'd tour with name acts and make decent money but then come home and have to live off it for months with no retainer, while my covers band was working steadily and making more money over the stretch. Those guys would call me asking if I had any dep gigs for them. As we got home every night, I was free to be creative in my spare time, while they were sat in the back of a transit van in Poland or somesuch.
@@constantz7539 dude distributing is much more than setting up a spotify or shopify account. You're buying art from artists, then getting it printed on shirts, stickers, patches etc. People from all over the world want to buy your merch and you gotta figure out a cost effective way to send it to Indonesia, Brazil, Germany etc. You're constantly spending money on advertising to target markets. You need to rent equipment when touring, you need to tent vehicles and drivers. You're sleeping in peoples houses on the floor every night. You get your gear stolen in Belgium and have to cancel the tour. You're constantly trying to get visas approved. If one guy can't get a visa, you need to combs a replacement for him and have someone learn your entire set in just a few weeks. You try to slip by customs by getting your merchandise either shipped to the country where the tour starts, or by having new merch printed in the starting town. Car trouble, gear trouble, small crowds, promoters that can't give you a guarantee because they don't know you. Promoters that don't actually promote the shows so you're forced to do it. Entertainment lawyers. Record labels that try to destroy you. Dude the list is endless and unless you've got a solid foundation with a decent following, you'll be working way harder than any 9 to 5 job you'll ever have.
As a failing creative I can safely I’m f*cked, and yet I can’t give up. Painting is my only way out of the dark abyss and where I can shine a light on the world.
I have started to hand copy the KJV bible out of no where , starting 2016 it's three years now and am still writing every morning for two hours , if I don't write I miss it , just a hobby but I enjoy it .
I can relate to this so hard, and this is also why I'm trying to study Engineering at the side, while pursuing my creative dreams at the same time.. Being a creative today also means that you need to be a business man, it's not only about creating art, it's about making a business and sales strategy of your art, which is extremely competitive and hard to do.. But, of course not impossible, it has never been a better time to be a freelance creative in the internet world, with all social platforms that you can use to reach your clients and fan base. You just gotta know how to do it right
I love filmmaking. I write songs, stories and poems. Ever since I was a kid I was the creative one in the family. I left my job offer as a Radio Jockey as my parents asked me to pursue my higher studies. They have no idea who Jordan Peterson is, but they all said the same thing, find a job to earn a living and make time to practice your passion along the way. I'm currently pursuing my MBA. Hope everything goes well.
Finally a statement that shines a ray of hope. This video was depressing but instead of saying how being creative is a curse etc, he should have said how to be sensible in life and making decisions. You can be creative and stupid but I've known plenty of very smart creative people that managed creativity and themselves very well. It can be done!
I create to stay sane. There is no money in it....especially as we move to austerity. I just make art to bring joy to those who can appreciate it now. Jordan Peterson is a genius!
I've been writing fiction for 25 years. Just as I was actually developing confidence in my writing skill, I realized that there's editting, graphic design, book design, etc. I can outsource some of that but then you get to marketing and selling. If I do the conventional path (submitting manuscripts to publishing houses), I still have to do my own marketing because they won't invest money into an unknown writer and I can get ripped off my signing a shaky contract. So I have to learn legal lingo. Even if I manage to get money and skill to do my own marketing, there's still a great chance I simply won't find an audience that would be interested in my particular style/niche of writing. So yes, it's not easy. Will I stop doing it? Sure. When I'm dead.
Never say never ! Go on Instagram, and post what you have , follow book pages, authors, events, communicate with them. Ect . ..it's hard if you are an introvert , but it's either now or never . I know people will love your stories.
i just want to tell stories, create music and make people feel something. creating is the most beautiful thing in life. especially if u can do it with ppl u love.
i would say its just what it is, in this competitive world, new ideas are really hard to come with, plus the lack of capital. Its realistic to think that trying to live from a creative vocation is not going to be successful immediately, so you have to look for a B plan until the A plan (living from what you love to do), becomes feasible.
one thing good about being creative is best put by Stannis Baratheon: "...boredom indicates a lack of inner resources" so even at the worst of times you find ways to keep yourself entertained.
You can broadcast your creativity now. Mark Cuban says in an interview that a decade from now once technology is doing all of the lower level work for us, creative people will always come out on top in a much faster form because creative people suffer at the bottom and thrive at the top of a business. And technology is allowing us to increasingly be our own bosses online. We will be ok guys ✊️ take the leap
It's true, it can be extremely hard to make yourself noticed in such a competitive world, but don't give up on yourself... even if you have two jobs, find time for your creativity which is what keeps your soul alive... you can achieve what you want when you work on it, have conviction and take action to get there.
Given one is really creative pursuing wholesomeness, what would be is so abnormal uncreative to be factually creative every instant at all facets of life?
@@theBear89451 If you work hard, diligently, intelligently, efficiently, and actually are gifted with some innate skill, you will rise to the top. The people at the top of their respective fields didn't get there because of luck. Unless you meant they were lucky to be born as the type of person with the capacity to make it to the top.
Erika K the creative part of the brain gets stifled by being on the treadmill of work to pay bills ,society is structured to stop people being free thinkers and creative .
I felt this way for years, meanwhile I would sense people’s jealousy and it would be even harder...I’m in my 30’s and I’m still lost, meanwhile the ones who were jealous have a much more convenient and focused life than me, but Jordan Peterson is helping me find more focus.
Great thing is now we have youtube and the internet as a platform for us artist...and youtube has alot of eyes passing through it. Creative people......keep creating, ...when a problem pops up, create a way out and keep moving forward...working on building my guitar business, and other projects in line. And if i fail, theres always a creative way to use what knowledge and experience ive gained on this journey
ARTAVAR giveing up will reenforce failure. You just have to come up with a new strategy thats all. Im working on mines, constantly shifting the table in my favor. Working on building a boutique guitar/instruments company. And byproducts of that if my original plan doesn’t succeed. Just keep trying 👍🏾. Nothing happens over night....ive been at this for over 10 years and im a whole lot further then where i started, but not where i want to settle just yet
I live with a creative mind..it fuels me to keep going..when I couldn't go for my dreams due to health I felt like my life fell apart. Sooo depressed n lost..once my health improved it fueled me to try to never be lost again
I'm a freelancer artist and whenever i get this idea or form inside my head i feel the urge to draw it or at least sketch it. Be it landscapes, things, person, everything. It comes and the need for it to be realized on paper is almost unbearable. The timing... sometimes those came right at them moment i was about to fell asleep or in a class where i should've pay attention to the subject. And the more i oppressed it the more anxious i became. I always started mumbling about the strokes, the shades and the shape of the object in my mind. That's why i always bring my sketchbook and my pencil and pen sets. And those pieces were even more better when i had stress too. The more stressed or depressed i became, the better the piece would be. People near me said it's good because it's art. But i still cannot understand whether it's a curse or a blessing.
I'm so glad to hear this. It's the story of my life being a mega creative artist , winning prices at art academies and selling products to friends and family, but no wealthy future at all.
Eh, I’m tired of how the conversation surrounding creativity is always a monetary one, as if the value of any human trait or predilection should by necessity be predicated upon the potential for economic optimization. Wanna know why being creative is dope? You’re the closest to God when you’re in the flow state. It’s like hopping dimensions, doing drugs without doing drugs, getting high in a way that millions to billions of people can appreciate, resonate with and be inspired by. Wanna know what sucks? You’re the closest to God when you’re in the flow state. It erodes you. The highs and lows can dilapidate your being, nature, and sanity. The passions get so intense on either end of the spectrum with life feeling so vibrant that the more hours you commit, the more you risk putting a gun in your mouth. The more time-in, the more you feel, the more emotional resonance you achieve, the more you risk, the more powerful you are, the more of a force of nature you are, the less human you are, the more illegible you become, the more isolated you become, the more obsessive you get, the less reliable you become, boom you’re dead, but you probably died some kind of fucked up demigod that a thousand HBO dramas will take inspiration from because your life most likely turned out to be a million times more entertaining in its retelling than the crusty adaptation managed on behalf of Joe Schmo Salary bro, because it was a literal psychological and physiological war. It was bigger than the capitalism game. It was natural selection. It was participation in the war of ideas. It was fighting for legacy. It was challenging the sovereignty of the old gods, the Michelangelos and the Beethovens, the Chaucers and the Alighieris. It was all you truly ever had. It was oxygen. Not a goddamn paycheck.
@_thegonzoking for me I would like to make money with my creativity because as a working mother I am quite exhausted by the end of the day. There isn't much time left for my creativity, unless that is how I made my money, and didn't need a job, but that isn't the reality of the world. Plus, I don't want to just give away my work for free or as gifts, not even to be reimbursed for materials. People are greedy and ungrateful. People don't see value in creativity because we don't demand it. People know they need to pay for everything in this planet, even water and dirt has a price, but you try to sell a painting? A book? A poem? A photograph? People say, why should I pay money for that? So I can eat. That's why. So I can pay my bills, too.
@@kellyannespirithealing42 agreed. the thought that creativity (or art, to be more precise) and money are two mutually exclusive thing might sound romantic and ideal, but we dont trade our craft with food, water, electricity, or even materials we need and the most valuable of all things: *_time_* spent honing our skills and making the craft. no, we trade them with money. so of course the topic will always relate back to monetisation in some ways, whether about how to generate money from the craft or how to generate money through other means so we can still live and work on our craft (i.e., day jobs and such). am not some focken nice philantrophist gal. satisfaction when i created something doesnt put food on my table. *of course* i want to get paid, especially if that thing i create ended up being consumed by other people.
You can be creative as I am but you need food to live and money to pay rent. Of course you can try to live like Diogenes, that guy was a fucking savage, it's up to you.
I am a creative person for sure, I have ideas written down for paintings, stories- but even if I don’t have creative sparks coming, I always have my Bible to read and God to pray to! There is so much to do in the creative process but with his blessings and love there will always be a way❤️We’ll never be depressed with his love in us! Just thought I’d share ❤️
I post so much of my creative or cool ideas online, like on Twitter, and rarely does it get any attention. It made me think that maybe I'm not creative at all, and have been lying to myself this whole time. But now I understand why after watching this video. Honestly, I'm now even more discouraged to continue posting my work after ten years of nothing.
This video was kind of depressing. Mostly because I relate to it so well. Normal jobs are just so difficult to deal with because all I want to do is work on all my creative endeavors but those things don't put food on the table for my family and probably won't for years and even longer because I have to have a full-time job and can't put more time into improving my skills. But luckily I'm also a very determined individual so it's not going to stop me trying. Though I do hope succeed before I'm 90.
I know exactly what you mean. By day I work hard for my employer because they deserve it and because my family rely entirely on my income. Yet, many a night I'll wake up troubled that I want to create more than time allows, that I want to be better at my craft, yet have no time to dedicate to it and could in no way replace my income. Faced with growing old and fearing never reaching my potential, let alone getting recognition for it.
Very creative person. Family man, 4 kids, lost job, sold all my stuff still no job because no one hires during holiday season. Depression kicking my ass. Stare at screen watching UA-cam with all spare time. WHY AM I NOT WORKING ON MY PROJECTS?? fml
Idk.. I had to take the best out of my life. Arts was the way. The way to survive existence. Life has unexpected surprises you have to relate to. I still have to accept what's happened to me. Suddenly it ends up. Badly. And probably that's the best part of the story. Certainly mine.
I am a business management student and currently a fashion design student. Well I need business knowledge to market my fashion product commercially, so both creativity and business knowledge to sell that creativity goes hand in hand.
I spent years trying to suppress my creative ideas, because it just wasn’t practical and I had bills to pay; but I was always miserable and often showed symptoms of depression and bipolar disorder. However as I’ve started developing my art skills and pursuing my creative ideas, I have a much more positive outlook on life and I tend not to stress out about mundane, everyday problems. Also I can totally relate to his comment about listening to non-traditional music. For me it’s hardcore European techno music that really gets my creativity flowing.
"Not being able to create art, they will not understand art. They will think of their failure as creators only as a failure of the world." - from 'Genius if the Crowd' by Charles Bukowski
@@fleija482 je hebt net als die nep figuur in de video iets 'wijs' te zeggen over creatieve mensen blijkbaar...De woorden creativiteit, kunst, kunstenaars, artiest en artistiek hebben verschillende betekenissen.
I come from a creative family. We have learned the importance of not only selling ones creativity but selling oneself. Basically being like able. The most successful artists in my family had offers flocking to them because people wanted to work with them. My daughter in High School has already been approached to do paid projects and I believe it is more because of her charisma than her art. Even though her art is good. Loved this lecture. Just wanted to add what I have seen first hand in the art world. No one wants a piece from an artist they hate. Because art is apart of the creators soul.
Being a person that is likable and pleasant to work with is more important than talent. I read a book about "hired guns" , people who are hired to play their instrument with a group or an artist for something like session work or another project. There was a list of attributes that would make someone successful doing this type of work. Talent was further down the list. Talent is abundant. Being able to get along with people was the most difficult trait to find and what put people at the top of this industry. It surprised me because I thought talent would be at the top. I'm going to guess that when an artist is looking for someone to work with they need someone that will not create conflict in the process. It is a big setback to have a conflict with those you are collaborating with and damages the process for everyone.
@@kirkjohnson9353, You know Kirk what I observed working for people who were intelligent, first, they always were able to cultivate being likable. They never thought they could get things done without cooperation. Except for one English female Doctor, married well, had the six children she wanted studied all through that and passed all her exams brilliantly to become a psychiatrist. Not many on the staff really liked her neither men nor women. Maybe they all felt she was just too smart. Anyway, I'm no Jordan Peterson so I cannot pursue the why's and wherefores with the relentless ferocity he does but then I do not have an IQ of 150 or more as he does. He refuses to spare himself in his search for the truth. Ya gotta love him though he is a good man.
I feel like I used to be a creative person for as much of my life as I could be, until having to take part in adult life by paying bills and earning money through low-skilled work that doesn't require any creativity whatsoever. Having such limited spare time, or low energy in that spare time also makes it nearly impossible to keep being creatively engaged. That gap between creating art or products to then being able to monetize it is huge, and as it is just a lottery now I've found I don't even have my ticket anymore. I just hope that it's still possible in the future to bounce back into the creative mindset again if I ever get the opportunity to return to that lifestyle. I hear various claims about the peak age of mental acuity and hope I still have enough brain left to use on things that matter.
If you're creative,the first thing you should do is find other creative people. Other people,like you,will protect you from the agression of those unlike them and encourage you to be creative and compliment you. Its tough being creative alone and its even tougher being creative while being sorrounded by non creative people.
I've told a number of artist to not go to college for their craft. Learn it on your own and if you want college I would recommend a business degree. Nothing in the arts is guaranteed, but you can learn how to market yourself and appeal to public interest so that you may A) land a job to support yourself or B) learn how to turn your talent into a business. It's a hard gig, and I wish anyone the best of luck for taking it on.
This is so true. Without materialism (which we invented) there is only life and creativity. We were all creative at one point, but then someone decided not to be i guess. Kinda sad ngl
@@nevad1784 It's bitter-sweet. I really don't like Materialism, because it gives us a very boring and uninspiring, and sometimes quite depressing view of the world, however I am grateful for everything it gave us like the modern world around us and all its technology. (Except Social Media, that's just a virus, deadlier than the current pandemic). So I avoid, because it hinders my creativity, but recognize that it's helpful and useful to some people
Creativity is a gift for everyone, some people find it many different ways. You are the creator, so make something amazing. If your really passionate about it no rock roads or mountains should daunt you.
Worked night shift in a warehouse after college and it was a piece of cake job with good money with benefits and everything. Even had incentives for your speed and following safety protocol and everything. But it took up an incredible amount of time with commute and overtime hours so even though I was making a ton of progress on that student loan I felt like I was being crushed. I would come home completely exhausted and just go straight to bed. Drawing is my major creative outlet, so despite my logical brain telling me that my wrist was getting sore from my job and I should rest it, I would just draw and draw every weekend because I couldn't hold it in anymore and I needed to MAKE something. Moving objects around is work but it's not meaningful work, you know? I got so depressed. I quit my job, revamped my portfolio site and went into graphic design so I could walk that fine line between creative outlet and steady income, because I just felt suffocated doing endless monotonous work, no matter how easy it was. I would say try and find a job that has sort of a 'busy season' and a 'slow season' and then use the slow season to just go to town on all those projects you want to work on. Anything I can do at work in between tasks in the slow part of the year I will totally bring to work with me. It just feels so much better to have room to get it all out of your system like that.
I've not found this to be true. But I have no desire for fame. As a musician I started using my creativity to come up with interesting and unique ideas for monetizing my music. I may never own a mansion, but I pay my bills, and that's good enough for me ;)
I’m so glad you did this as this is something I’ve come up against so many times in my life. I have fought my creativity in a very ordinary life career and I try and be normal but I’m always different. But I’m also smart in that area but I think differently. So I have not many allies. Life is really hard.
This couldn't have come at a more perfect time. It shocked me how you described my exact situation. Thank you, it feels good to know that I'm not alone.
Learn to live with less money. Stay out of debt, value your free time, appreciate your opportunities, spend more time with family, volunteering, growing closer to God. Don’t compare yourself to others - live for what really matters. Let others criticize and complain. Just be who God made you to be. You’ll find yourself creating more than art; a life truly worth living.
Being creative is not always about making money. Many times it's about the joy of being creative and creating something beautiful. Only creatives who enjoy marketing something understood tend to make money.
@@prodigy9885 there's a difference between doing something for and from the heart than creating a image for a client or the general public.... Onward......
Thank you Jordan. I’m a creative person, trained as a composer and fortunately found a way to make the bulk of my income from being a carpenter. I’m still writing and performing but wouldn’t be able to rely on this alone financially. The day job has also created a secondary avenue to be creative. I found this Video really encouraging. I would say to others to be grounded enough to dream but don’t let the ground work kill your dream.
Innate creativity exists for sure, many would say that it's the very source of life itself. Unfortunately it lies dormant and untapped in most. If you doubt what I say, develop a regular meditation practice and see for yourself. Your creative imagination will blossom and awaken in ways that you probably never even imagined possible.
to all the young ones out there reading this...it doesnt mean that its all suffering and pain...there is light at the end of the tunnel...they can try and take everything away from you...but they can never take your thoughts...your freedom...your soul...your instincts....time will only tell..but remember your never alone....and dispair is a choice not an answer..
Valuable perspective for college students when at crossroads. I went into Educational counseling and teaching sign language p/t, which was safe and afforded me the time to be a free spirit. This delicate balance is everything. This also validated reason why I wont deal with mundane everyday tasks. How We live our lives IS art. Best wishes to all.
All of this was well said and transparent. This is why I have a job, my purpose as an educator, and then my passion on the side as a songwriter/artist. However my podcast is free haha so glad I found another creative outlet that takes time but not money (because I don't fully produce my own music, too intricate and too many skills I would have to hone further). Learning to use a DAW did give me the skills to record and edit my podcast very well though. One hand feeds the other!
My film professor once told me it takes 10 years to become an overnight sensation in Hollywood. That's not including the many years it will take you to learn the craft and be good enough to perform as an amature. Not a professional, because the professionals (like Steven King, the Foo Fighters, Guns N Roses, Floyd Mayweather, Leonard DiCaprio, Eddie Murphy, etc) are the ones getting paid. You're just a humble beginner trying to break into the business. But, you still need to practice like a professional, because you never know when opportunity will present itself. It's a lonely road my friend. A very lonely road🤰 I'm just a humble poet who plays the ukulele. Will I become a world famous spoken word artist who plays the ukulele 🎸 Well, if all I did was lay on my couch and dream about it, then I would never have gotten started posting my spoken word poetry videos here on my UA-cam channel. It's better to of tried and failed than to be an 85 year old wondering what if 😲 There are magazines and websites who will pay me nicely for my poetry and clubs who want you to perform. So don't let people say poetry is dead, just because they are inside 💕
No. Make enough money and have the financial stability to quit your day job, usually when you're between 35-45 or later in life. That way you can either find a better job that suits your creative abilities or learn some things about business and marketing.
@@NamelessSensibility Thanks David! You're right. 25 now and balancing a dayjob with the start of a music carreer. :) Reading 12 Rules for life as we speak. Cheers!
@@NamelessSensibility And few people in this world can do that. How many highly talented artists do you know who have such a highly paid job that they'll be able to retire at 35? If you're creative in the industries of software or high tech, you're already creating in your chosen field, and you may be able to retire at 35. If you're a watercolorist, on the other hand, the chances that you're gifted in finance or computer code or something that'll let you make millions and retire young are not very good. The artists I know have a hard time counting change, much less trading stocks on Wall Street.
@Psychonaut I only ever knew one person who was able to do that. He sold life insurance. He was tall, dark, and handsome, with a sweet nature that was naturally likable. He could sell anything to anybody, and he sold so much life insurance by the time he was 32 that he was able to retire and live off that income as a millionaire. All that coming from a small-town lower middle class family; his dad was a cop and his mom was a Mexican immigrant. But he's the only person I ever knew who was able to do that.
You dont get it- the point he was saying was to work with a team of people. If creatives focused on the strict structure of business it takes away from the energy for creative juices. We arent supposed to be every position in one person. No busines has that. Even bill gates had paul allen. Jay z had damon dash.
For myself, I was blessed to have marketing skills and professional experience. I was able to create my own business cards and web site. I know a musician/entrepreneur who started his own consulting business that specifically is to help musicians promote themselves. After you reach a certain level and want to expand, then you'll need to hire an agent-promoter or service.
@@rainbowodysseybyjonlion An example of teaming up would be art colonies, where artists band together in one building or community. Lots of cities have these, and grants help them start or run.
Mtpimenta not true, I have a degree in business administration that I got last semester, next semester I am going to study musical composition, I have studied formal music for a very long while and although I disliked business, it never affected my education in music.
I'm so glad we have the internet now. It allows us to share our work with the world. More and more people are becoming full time content creators and 2020 has only served to accelerate it.
I write my own progressive jazz / classical metal music but I don't market myself I make money once in a while but I have food and shelter always so I'm happy for the most part
Having the knowledge without the power is very frustrating in life. Stay with it, work ethic ( relentless work ethic), IQ & risk is the key to capitalism.
GREAT ADVICE ! I took a U Turn from my creativity & stop trying to force the art to support me: I have a job to support myself. And I do my art on the side, in my free time. It’s going very well, I pay my bills, eat well, sleep well. Live a decent life. 💚☃️🌺
Creative people just need to creatively find ways to monetize their art. There's some creativity involved in "marketing" but marketing isn't the same as trying to sell a product or service that you have created, marketing is an analysis of supply and demand in certain "markets" to figure out and provide products or services needed in that market. Having said that, there appears to be a market for creatives in need of business savvy. If I were creative enough to find a solution I'd be ballin'
Dr. Peterson I am a singer/songwriter and love interior decorating. I graduated from nursing school and then got a Master's degree which allowed me to practice as a mental health counselor. I practiced as a psych nurse and substance use counselor for 45 years and have written many songs throughout my life.And yes, I am an INFJ. I sing for friends and at churches I have attended. I have many lovely memories of people's responses to the music I create. Those memories are priceless. Money and standing ovations are not.
Oh my God! Thanks! This was the advice I needed! I was starving here to death, not making money...I watched this great video and now I realise that I have to find a job!! thanks Jordan, you are a real lifesaver.
I generally agree with the Doctor. I agree that not everyone is creative, however it's a huge virtue in the business world. Especially in the future when AI will have marketing down to a science. Creative people with imagination and ideas will be in very high demand.
The problem with creative people is that if you’re high in trait openness then you’ll always be stepping outside of evaluation structures, which means it’ll be really hard for creative people to climb in fields like those when the ones who are receiving good evaluations are the ones that always climb the ladder.
It's also not sound to put people in a box when most of us have more than one trait. Im creative , but I can still sell and close business, Network and market. Acquiring the specialized knowledge and skills needed to crush it should be the plan for any type of personality.
@@matthewshafer8313 I agree with your assessment Mr Shafer, but I would like to add one caveat to that. If the creative person can burden the strain of the monotony involved in taking business related classes and courses necessary to gain the qualifications they will need to work in a professional business environment. To go from college to business and avoid the cubicle, requires an MBA or some such similar on the same level. While achievable in 3 years, creative people don't tend to do well at busy work, menial tasks or as previous stated: monotony. Which is precisely why they must avoid the lower rung positions of cubicle existence - which will feel like torture day in and day out. If a creative person can knuckle down well enough to get an MBA in some specialty which they find agreeable enough to be tolerable - they'll be sitting pretty to do very well for themselves once they're in business at the level of having offices rather than cubicles. If I ran a business, at the moment, I'd start recruiting the bright minds right out of college using apprenticeship programs so that they'd be able to put their creative talents to work as part of their college credits, under contract to work for the company for X number of years after graduation. I'd scoop up the talent before algorithms completely take over advertising and leave the competition destitute of brain power. It's a good thing I don't have controlling shares in any important firms, I'd be dangerous if someone had given me the above advice when I graduated high school. Oh well.
Claim: life is a long, hard suffering slog. Easy response: how can I make it easier, faster, comfortable, convenient? Creative: how can I make it harder, more vital, more enriching, more living?
@@ejvonrhein been scribbling down stories since I was a kid but hit a few year slump....until I realized the whole reason I loved writing as a kid is because I had this burning desire to SHARE stories, not SELL them like I eventually grew into the idea of as an adult. (What stories are unique and experimental? VS what stories will be accepted by a publisher) When I was a dumbass little kid I had no concept of money, so I wrote because I simply enjoyed it. Just my two cent revelation I had recently, now I'm getting back into digital art as well and it worked for me to kick the slump.
It couldn't be more true, for the first time in a long time I have fulltime employment. But it's now also the first time I really have the economy to start my own company and be creative.
Hes exactly right. The main difficulty of creativity is being tied down by your passions, and its easy to fall into a pit of despair if you’re not rooted in yourself. The self actualized creative person uses their sorrow as a well of meaning to further fuel their creativity. In that state its no longer depression you feel but sadness, like summer rain.
this is by far the most weird take on creativity I've seen. 1. I don't know if I can consider myself creative, but I'm pretty sure the majority of creative people would never trade their gift for anything else. 2. this feels more geared towards business than anything else.
I'm a poet, created and directed street theatre, I've had some acting experience, went pretty far in the music industry at one point....I'd trade it all to make a glorious living off of one of those achievements. To reach the end of a magnificent road, only to realize that the world doesn't give a shit....rent is still due on the 1st....I'd trade it all back in for monetary gain. Otherwise, all that talent will become beautiful memories and spoiled fruit.
No you look at photographers, Painters, Designers etc finding money directly from your craft drives you crazy. I tried for years to monetize my photography I was just in a bad location I now work for a radio station.. Life is alot better most of the time.
I'm a writer that bartends for living. For me, it's all about motive. To create or not is not even a choice. We must. But...... When my motives shifted, so did my expectations. When I found myself writing for the joy of it and the service of others, I started to see a difference in my "success." It brought me to some big philosophical questions as well. What is art? What is creativity, really? Is it art if no one observes it? I love when I hear a thing that rings true for me. This video nailed it.
Jordan has just described in forensic detail my late husband's experience over 35 years of brilliant creative endeavour. We did nearly starve once, we were constantly under attack, and the end was - well, the end IS, I have a cure for one form of cancer in a box in the next room, and nobody in the world to take over the development work.
Creativity is a curse as much as it's a blessing. Always, mentally exhausting, forever chasing perfection, never settling on current achievement, never satisfied with current output.
yes I feel this--and the horrible guilt when you aren't creating!! when you have to hold off a project or aren't creating enough!
Fatima Al-Amri very true
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Curse. All the way. One we cannot live without
@@Ari-ih5un IT makes relaxing hard. Everytime i relax and don't draw, i feel like i've wasted a day.
the truest line here : when they don't do creative stuff ,they become miserable
Agreed.for me i like to create smtg physical. Like a sewn product or a furniture or a pc of art or a cake or cookies. Smtg i can touch
@@adrianaadnan7704 for me its being lost; in the mental state of FLOW, search it up. The time dissolves. Also I like to make random things and find meaning in them (abstract stuff).also I love psychology and philosophy and thinking in general.
Yes! I agree with youuu
;_; I couldn't agreed more with u
I had stopped writing to be more practical and my anxiety and depression, after getting on top of it for a while, came back and I started drinking waay too much. I made a commitment to finish all my writing projects while working a full time job and boom, I'm laughing everyday. What the hell XD
I don’t create to be rich or famous . I create simply because I have to . It’s my purpose . Not for anyone else . For myself . and I chose to share it even if it doesn’t sell . But I do sell some . That is a bonus . I have to do this to settle my mind and soul and feel like I’m honoring my inner voice , respecting my soul . It levels me out .
Indeed...
Real talk
Well said... Thank you!
Beautiful!
I can relate to what you are saying
The world would be so boring without artists.
I know right? And many companies need them or their business wouldn't even be a business and yet, they pay them crap.
BlackhawkX02 I tell people this all the time when they try n downplay artist. Without artist %70 of media, entertainment, businesses. Automobile industry n even buildings wouldn’t exist. For all artist that’s enough inspiration right there. It’s a field that will never die although highly competitive
& thats why i became one
Indeed! Take all the artists away and the rest of the world would quickly be asking for them to come back when there were suddenly no movies, television shows, music, books, etc.
@@jamesroshe2540 Hahahaha
"Yes, guys I'm an artist. That's right. So noble, despite the fact that businesses pay them crap. Did I mention that I'm also extraordinarily humble?"
In my case, he's absolutely right. If I'm not creative, I feel like a big part of me is missing. I have to constantly be making something.
it seems we creatives never "have nothing to do", doesn't it?
@@Ari-ih5un Pretty much, if we aren't doing, we're thinking. Ergo, we always have something going on.
If I am not creativity I am sinking into a black hole
When I stopped drawing, Everything stopped working. I won't start it again tho.
man i dont want to admit this is true haha
The biggest curse of being creative, is not only can you think of really good uplifting things, that creativity enables you to think the darkest thoughts of all.
I wouldn't say that's a curse. At some point you just get used to it and you can exercise the thought without actually acting on it.
@@Alexandar358 For some though (not me) it can be very destructive. If you can't overcome the dark thoughts, not everyone can do this.
@@malkum61 I must a lucky one, cause I can. I just accept them for what they are and let them pass by.
@@Alexandar358 Yes I can do that and I've got better at it as I have got older but I think we are the lucky ones because too many can't do it. Not all are really bad, but there is a range of anxieties that happen, none of which are good for your long-term well-being.
My flying highs and deepest lows are when I’m most creative 😄 Art is definitely my outlet and my answer to life. Without it, it would be like planting a seed that spouts no flower.
That kinda explains why creative people usually have depression or anxiety.
dina kalo to be fair, I also think it is exaggerated, but as a musician myself, in the 10 years that I have meeting other creative people, if 90% of them didn’t have issues of some kind, then my name is not Michael Ortega. And I can tell you this also, why express yourself through art, if you don’t have the emotional need to do so? There is always a reason why some humans rather speak via art than using words and it usually is highly meaningful and emotionally bound.
@@d1i9n2a2 Because, they're kids with no real responsibility, supported by parents and who still believe they world is theirs for the taking and a bright future awaits. Maybe 1% will 'make it' the rest will be pushed by the harsh reality of life into some field they will accept, while recounting ad nauseam in later years how they wanted to be a creative of some kind.
@@d1i9n2a2 what's your socio economic background ?
@@d1i9n2a2 he doesnt said that, it doesnt help your art, its not an stereotype, but its more common in people who are really creatives at full. As he said, people that if they dont do or can't do their thing they feel miserable. And because adversitity its common, but with the real groups of artist who know they were born to do specifically something. Real artist are philosophers too. Its not a stereotype, but very common in real artist. Obviusly it has nothing to do with art.
Everyone has depression and anxiety
I have always said, "I've always wanted to choose the path of a starving artist, but I don't starve well."
Lots of people starve that are not even artists they don't know how to channel their suffering.
@@AnnaLVajda Yes, I starved when I was young, left home as a teenager with $250, went to work, possibly under $3/ hour, used like a slave, went long stretches without work. Even when I made more money later, I had a hard time feeding myself. Restaurants from Friday payday, by Wednesday it was bread and peanut butter, drive up the mountain to work, turn off the truck to coast home, wrestle the steering wheel without power steering.
I did some fasting many years ago. Now, I am slowly getting into intermittent fasting, along with a high nutrition Ketogenic diet.
You must have thought I was doing stand up, I was sitting down, and that was my true feeling as a teenager, living on $2 and $3 an hour, on my own. I went hungry a lot, and got extremely stressed out if there was any lack, memories from going long periods without food. I wanted to write, but I first became a carpenter, and later an electrical lineman.
You sound like a boy, probably never experienced want. Get ready, the American Bolshevic Revolution is slowly getting in full swing, (Headline: "Public University Gives Chinese Communists Funding, Exclusive Rights to Intellectual Concepts, Trademarks, Inventions"), and all Americans will suffer the same starvation the Russians suffered when they were first conquered. It took the Russians 70 years to throw off the brutal dictatorship. The brutal dictators got thrown out, not the figurehead, but the bankers running things from behind the scene. Soviet America will be harder to conquer, technology has evolved. The Communists, the Soviets, the Nazis, the Zionists, they are the same crowd, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, Soros, the groups are their hand puppets. Some of the first people to get a bullet in the head, and a backhoe trip to the bottom of a trench were the supporters of the revolution. If you are a young twerp pushing for them, find a REAL history book. If you are a supporter, just know you will be among the first to be eradicated.
@Daniel Moore I thought I would say, I got over my anxiety of starving. I used to fast, for spiritual purposes, so I was secretive about it, but no concern like that today, it was over 40 years ago. I water fasted 2 days a week, and worked hard as a carpenter. I fasted Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday. It was very positive for my life. Nonetheless, as a few years later, Jimmy Carter got us in a condition of Prime Rate being 25%, no work at all. It's not just food, but money for gas. Many of my jobs were an hour and a half drive, and there were always necessary tools to buy. The current strategy is intermittent fasting, OMAD. If interested, respond, and I'll talk about it.
Creative people first need to find something that they can get paid for, a normal job that requires creativity! Thats it..then you do not starve, creativity comes out of being comfortable, its when you don’t have to starve so that your mind opens for creativity. I’m almost 32 and it took me time to find a very decent job, ive made myself very comfortable and the job uses me for creativity and gives me lots of down time to keep thinkering on my own ideas and side projects and I keep bouncing around ideas with other creative folks in the company. I fast on weekends when no one needs my energy.
Its not easy to find but it is if your think creatively. You might be very creative I believe, problem solve each step of the way to greatness my friend, you can do it! Just being an artist or a crafts man wont help much, you have to learn and be creative in all subjects..you have to be from a philosopher, to a psychologist, to an artist, to an inventor, to a business man, to a sales man, to a marketer, to a pit-bull..then you might, just might succeed and creative people are init for Sanity not success and thats the curse of creativity, its a gift to those who have found how to channel it.
Jordan is like the person you go to when you’re tired of everyone telling you that you can be anything you want if you set your mind to it.
So true. Every time I get sick of my day job, I'm coming back to this video to remind myself it's okay to have hobbies and not make art my life's work. I have to live with being creative, but I dont have to die poor because of it, lol
As an artist I can totally relate to this. Powerful speech! This should not discourage you from creativity but inspire you to be more smart about it if you want to build something serious with it.
It is torture to be creative and have few means, time, or opportunity to fully explore your capabilities.
I'ts horrible not having the financial resources to monetize great oil paintings or brilliant pastels. So like me, artists work a day job, or two jobs.....you come home after a long day and try to settle into a creative drawing or oil painting mindset and, more often than not, you've dozed off from the exhaustive day. So, in searching for the quick financial fix many artists like myself fall victim to online "get rich quick schemes"....or, playing the lottery. For me, it's not always easy inviting people over to our house because the first question/response from them is..."Oh My God, did you do these incredible paintings?!"...."You could be SO RICH!" .....Very unnerving to say the least. But I just keep trying ... staying in good shape, running, taking supplements...and painting.
Dylan Dylan your demeanor is troubling.
definitely agree with this
FACTS!!
You need to do what you can with what you got and build from that. Resources will come.
Doors will open.
You build the bridge just like a spider builds his net, from itself.
if i stop being creative then i feel like I've died inside. Everyone around me notices im different when i stop.
People struggle to understand why i just give most things i make away to people.
To truly creative people its not about money its about sanity.
If a creative friend or family member gives you a creation of theirs receive it with much joy which makes us happy...and maybe offer them a little sum for it even to cover new materials 😉
I use my creativity in my hobbies: lego, miniature painting, pen and paper role playing. Its self rewarding. Sanity preserved.
Amen! Pass the mashed potatoes.
If you are creative share your creativity only with creative people because non creative people will not understand. I found that I am much happier when I don't share my creativity with people that don't have an open mind and the freedom to wonder beyond their physical thought of existence. I hope that makes sense.
@@alexhoti9822 yes very true.
yes exactly it is not a chose
Creativity is a gift but you can't just do something creative and expect to get rich. You need to develop a few other skills in order to make it.
Or have enough money so you can hire a manager for all the practical/business stuff and focus on creating
You're right. I can tattoo my ass off but I couldn't sell it to save my life. I'm a total failure.
See Teal Swan ❤️
What are the skills to make me you rich
Yep, whether you like it or not, if you want to live and eat, you gotta know the financial/business side, as well.
This is exactly why I created my youtube channel. I found myself depressed at my current job. I did what he said and had a sales job for 13 years and did filmmaking on the side until it was too much. I quit my job and now I am a fulltime filmmaker and digital marketer looking to help Kingdom Creatives with content marketing. one thing that I think he forgot to factor in is that there has never been a better time in history to monetize your creativity. even with music. but you cant go about it the traditional way, you have to build your own audience, learn how to drive traffic, make offers and be consistent. its work, but its never been more open to the creative. I believe we are living in the age of creativity and I want to help Gods people experience it!
TRUE TRUE!!!!
I've always had people telling me .. oh.. you are so good in that thing.. you should start doing that.. you are so lucky.. I've always said.. if you knew how cruel it is to think and live like I do.. if I could some how transfer my anxiety , depression and every other emotion into you .. you'd say otherwise..
But to speak the truth it's a curse I'm glad I have..
Creative people need someone to promote and market what they create.
Yeah themselves
@@alexsideris7487 So you are saying one creative person can make creative products and market them with ease without money?
Henk Verhaeren we do always loose in that area
Very true
@DrScream well, what seems and probably is simple for you, is difficult or impossible for others. So...why not combine talents so things can be manifested directly into the 3D reality from the depth of the creative field of potential
There are very few people who are both artistic and good business people.
iam smiley Watch me do it
Jesus Kristus I like it
@@heru77777 be those few :)
That could be true or it might not be.
This is where it all falls down
Being creative isn't only writing painting drawing etc
You have to CREATE a business then Businesses CREATE jobs jobs CREATE incomes etc etc
Those that work CREATE an income which helps CREATE a life, toCREATE a home, to CREATE a family etc etc etc
EVERYONE is CREATION & CREATES in some way shape or form ...
So to say everyone isn't creative & those that are the creative 1s are smarter, shows how dumb/ignorant anyone that says/thinks this are
Said with much Love Kindness and Respect to all ✌⚡💖
My creativity has gotten me into trouble many times. Most of the time with employers.
Maybe because youre really not
:(((
Maybe that employers ego was threatened by another's more creative ideas. Maybe the creative idea contradicted the status quo. Maybe it was many things. Maybe you shouldn't jump to such a comclusion.
@@four-x-trading5606 Exactly. That seems to be all to true. But you never hear people admit that. And you never will.
You have to be very careful - particularly if you are highly creative, highly educated, and are possibly a threat to the people who are hiring you, managing you, and supervising you. If you are really dynamic, you could be perceived as a threat to their own job security. You have to be very careful how you reveal your creativity.
Sometimes it is best if you work for yourself - or you choose a field where you can really shine - without being in direct competition with other people in a work environment.
For instance... book authors - public speakers - entertainers -- can focus on their strengths... but there will be a point where they have to work well with others. You really have to work on all skills - you can't totally bypass working with others. Even best selling authors will have editors, publishers, people booking them for public appearances, talk show hosts, etc...
You really have to get along with other people - no matter what field you are in.
@@cynthiahamil9801 i'm a digital imaging professional. I went to work for an art publishing company who manufactured fine art products for their own retail galleries. They were using 19th century litho presses to create product. To enhance my skill I took on large format landscape photography. When they saw what I was able to produce, they wanted me to shoot all kinds of scenes around the city. They had been promoting another photographer for a few years and they were starting to build a market for his work. However he used a much smaller format and the results were much less. They wanted to use me, my equipment and have this other photographer sign his name to the work and take the credit. I told them no. This was my creation. Why would I let this other guy take all the glory and royalties for the work produced with my creative decisions. The aftermath was not pretty. Lots of screaming arguments, lots of F You! A year later I found myself out of a job.
When I don’t have a project or something to put my creativity towards I’ll just feel completely empty
I'm a mom and a creative. It's emotionally devastating not having time to really put a lot of thought into things and actually sit down and create them. You start to feel like you lose yourself.
One reason I have been reluctant to becoming a parent. I am nurturing by nature but I cannot imagine not having time to myself.
@@leonab545...kids will add to your creativity...it’s the grind of THE JOB that kills it...
Being a mom it's difficult, but precisely for that you need to choose, if you choose to play videogames you can't blame on not having time to create. Resistance maybe? Read "the war of art" if you want to know more. Good luck.
Creativity breeds fear and mistrust among those lacking the intellectual capacity to understand innovation. Including those who are uncomfortable with progress or who wish to maintain the status quo.
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk wtf
Perfectly said.
Creativity transcends progress
Well said
Funny how everyone in this comment sections believes they are either creative or know about the ontology & epistemology of creativity.
What a tragedy.
5:28 "Find a way to make money, then practice your craft on the side".
Yep, good advice. I would just add, sometimes the "money job" can gobble up all your time. You get home, stressed, anxious, tired, and the last thing you want to do is pursue anything else, other than winding down and relaxing.
I think I it has been deliberately designed that way to keep people subservient.
wakeupscreaming i think hes also trying to say that if this is the case for you you arent as creative as you believe you are
@@truthmerchant1 yes I agree they need our arms, energy and health
If you're super creative, you won't stand doing nothing. I sometimes wake up at 5:40 am and stay at college till 11 pm and it's not that I have the energy it's that I cannot not do the things I wanna do.
Excatly, its super difficult to work full time jobs to pay rent and eat AND THEN also work on a creative project. A lot of people seem to forget that as human beings we need to sleep acertsain amount of hours or else our health goes down and if our health goes down then we cant work properly and not working properly just adds more and more issues... I mean, there is a way, but it's really really difficult
So, SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL ARTISTS!
jennifer dehner ONLY IF THEYRE ACTUALLY GOOD!
If they're so creative maybe they can figure out how to monetize it.
@@amando96 Typical
What is local on the internet anyway?
I’m local UA-cam! Just me, no sweatshop
I was a touring musician/singer-songwriter for years. I made no money, I was stressed out. It was 10 percent music and 90 percent marketing, planning, distributing, promoting etc etc etc.
I stopped paying in bands and I do miss being on stage, however, I still play and sing every day. I'm much happier just doing it for myself.
I get it. Sad.
Maybe you can associate with people who could be put in charge of those aspects.
Distributing eh? Hard right. Those 5 clicks on TuneCore really take a lot of effort.
I hear you...
I knew a number of jobbing musos, who'd tour with name acts and make decent money but then come home and have to live off it for months with no retainer, while my covers band was working steadily and making more money over the stretch. Those guys would call me asking if I had any dep gigs for them. As we got home every night, I was free to be creative in my spare time, while they were sat in the back of a transit van in Poland or somesuch.
@@constantz7539 dude distributing is much more than setting up a spotify or shopify account. You're buying art from artists, then getting it printed on shirts, stickers, patches etc. People from all over the world want to buy your merch and you gotta figure out a cost effective way to send it to Indonesia, Brazil, Germany etc. You're constantly spending money on advertising to target markets. You need to rent equipment when touring, you need to tent vehicles and drivers. You're sleeping in peoples houses on the floor every night. You get your gear stolen in Belgium and have to cancel the tour. You're constantly trying to get visas approved. If one guy can't get a visa, you need to combs a replacement for him and have someone learn your entire set in just a few weeks. You try to slip by customs by getting your merchandise either shipped to the country where the tour starts, or by having new merch printed in the starting town. Car trouble, gear trouble, small crowds, promoters that can't give you a guarantee because they don't know you. Promoters that don't actually promote the shows so you're forced to do it. Entertainment lawyers. Record labels that try to destroy you. Dude the list is endless and unless you've got a solid foundation with a decent following, you'll be working way harder than any 9 to 5 job you'll ever have.
I can’t stop thinking about how clearly he said everything that was needed to be said
As a failing creative I can safely I’m f*cked, and yet I can’t give up. Painting is my only way out of the dark abyss and where I can shine a light on the world.
It's in you! Failure is irrelevant regardless because that's something special you have and will never cease. Just keep doing you.
I need to get back into painting man
@@whattheshit4936 I need to get started on my writing...
Your spirit shines in your art Chase that
I have started to hand copy the KJV bible out of no where , starting 2016 it's three years now and am still writing every morning for two hours , if I don't write I miss it , just a hobby but I enjoy it .
The most creative people aren't "successful" or even known.
Van Gogh
Most considered him to be not of sound mind while he was alive.
so true
that is such a general term. Sounds mor like a hypothesis than a real fact.
Rotbart1337 it is, because there’s a lot of creative successful individuals
I can relate to this so hard, and this is also why I'm trying to study Engineering at the side, while pursuing my creative dreams at the same time..
Being a creative today also means that you need to be a business man, it's not only about creating art, it's about making a business and sales strategy of your art, which is extremely competitive and hard to do.. But, of course not impossible, it has never been a better time to be a freelance creative in the internet world, with all social platforms that you can use to reach your clients and fan base. You just gotta know how to do it right
I made the same choice as you studying engineering, hope it ends up well ahahah
@ there is a lot of engineers requested on the market.Maybe it depends on the country, i live in Germany...
I love filmmaking. I write songs, stories and poems. Ever since I was a kid I was the creative one in the family. I left my job offer as a Radio Jockey as my parents asked me to pursue my higher studies. They have no idea who Jordan Peterson is, but they all said the same thing, find a job to earn a living and make time to practice your passion along the way. I'm currently pursuing my MBA. Hope everything goes well.
good success for your MBA. : )
@@brianofleong9271 Thankyou :)
Very true. As a creative individual I can very much relate to what he said.
My creativity has helped me throughout my life and I’m grateful for the gift. Monetizing it wasn’t easy, but is anything truly worth it easy?
Amber Nykole How did you monetize it?
Finally a statement that shines a ray of hope. This video was depressing but instead of saying how being creative is a curse etc, he should have said how to be sensible in life and making decisions. You can be creative and stupid but I've known plenty of very smart creative people that managed creativity and themselves very well. It can be done!
Right there with ya. I've worked my ass off, but I'm also one of the lucky ones. Blessings.
Well, yes... Air. It is truly worth it and easy to get
I create to stay sane. There is no money in it....especially as we move to austerity. I just make art to bring joy to those who can appreciate it now. Jordan Peterson is a genius!
What do you mean austerity? How is government spending related in any way to art?
I've been writing fiction for 25 years. Just as I was actually developing confidence in my writing skill, I realized that there's editting, graphic design, book design, etc. I can outsource some of that but then you get to marketing and selling. If I do the conventional path (submitting manuscripts to publishing houses), I still have to do my own marketing because they won't invest money into an unknown writer and I can get ripped off my signing a shaky contract. So I have to learn legal lingo.
Even if I manage to get money and skill to do my own marketing, there's still a great chance I simply won't find an audience that would be interested in my particular style/niche of writing.
So yes, it's not easy. Will I stop doing it? Sure. When I'm dead.
Yup!
Preach!
Never say never ! Go on Instagram, and post what you have , follow book pages, authors, events, communicate with them. Ect . ..it's hard if you are an introvert , but it's either now or never . I know people will love your stories.
You’ve got it man, I believe in you! Hey is there a way we can check out your stories at all?
What about self publishing with amazon? Could be worth taking a look. I wish you the best.
i just want to tell stories, create music and make people feel something. creating is the most beautiful thing in life. especially if u can do it with ppl u love.
I can't handle so much negativity I'm going to go play some music
Im almost crying here...😅 what a looser speech!
It's not negativity, it's realistic
i would say its just what it is, in this competitive world, new ideas are really hard to come with, plus the lack of capital. Its realistic to think that trying to live from a creative vocation is not going to be successful immediately, so you have to look for a B plan until the A plan (living from what you love to do), becomes feasible.
lol
one thing good about being creative is best put by Stannis Baratheon: "...boredom indicates a lack of inner resources"
so even at the worst of times you find ways to keep yourself entertained.
You can broadcast your creativity now. Mark Cuban says in an interview that a decade from now once technology is doing all of the lower level work for us, creative people will always come out on top in a much faster form because creative people suffer at the bottom and thrive at the top of a business. And technology is allowing us to increasingly be our own bosses online. We will be ok guys ✊️ take the leap
Or built more robots. Or use you creativity to build robots. Man this never gets boring.
@@ancientgear7192 build the focken robots, but dont make them too intelligent because scary. ( ÒwÓ)b
It's true, it can be extremely hard to make yourself noticed in such a competitive world, but don't give up on yourself... even if you have two jobs, find time for your creativity which is what keeps your soul alive... you can achieve what you want when you work on it, have conviction and take action to get there.
and wear short skirts...that always gets noticed
Given one is really creative pursuing wholesomeness, what would be is so abnormal uncreative to be factually creative every instant at all facets of life?
Correction, should be, "you MAY achieve what you want." That's the point, no matter how well you work, you will fail without luck.
@@theBear89451 If you work hard, diligently, intelligently, efficiently, and actually are gifted with some innate skill, you will rise to the top. The people at the top of their respective fields didn't get there because of luck. Unless you meant they were lucky to be born as the type of person with the capacity to make it to the top.
Erika K the creative part of the brain gets stifled by being on the treadmill of work to pay bills ,society is structured to stop people being free thinkers and creative .
I felt this way for years, meanwhile I would sense people’s jealousy and it would be even harder...I’m in my 30’s and I’m still lost, meanwhile the ones who were jealous have a much more convenient and focused life than me, but Jordan Peterson is helping me find more focus.
Great thing is now we have youtube and the internet as a platform for us artist...and youtube has alot of eyes passing through it. Creative people......keep creating, ...when a problem pops up, create a way out and keep moving forward...working on building my guitar business, and other projects in line. And if i fail, theres always a creative way to use what knowledge and experience ive gained on this journey
ARTAVAR giveing up will reenforce failure. You just have to come up with a new strategy thats all. Im working on mines, constantly shifting the table in my favor. Working on building a boutique guitar/instruments company. And byproducts of that if my original plan doesn’t succeed. Just keep trying 👍🏾. Nothing happens over night....ive been at this for over 10 years and im a whole lot further then where i started, but not where i want to settle just yet
I live with a creative mind..it fuels me to keep going..when I couldn't go for my dreams due to health I felt like my life fell apart. Sooo depressed n lost..once my health improved it fueled me to try to never be lost again
God, I wish this man had been around when I was young.
Me too.
Your young self wouldn't have listened.
Wow, 35 years of trying to figure this out and Dr. Peterson once again solves one of my great trivial mysteries in six minutes...#feelinghopeful
I'm a freelancer artist and whenever i get this idea or form inside my head i feel the urge to draw it or at least sketch it. Be it landscapes, things, person, everything. It comes and the need for it to be realized on paper is almost unbearable. The timing... sometimes those came right at them moment i was about to fell asleep or in a class where i should've pay attention to the subject. And the more i oppressed it the more anxious i became. I always started mumbling about the strokes, the shades and the shape of the object in my mind. That's why i always bring my sketchbook and my pencil and pen sets.
And those pieces were even more better when i had stress too. The more stressed or depressed i became, the better the piece would be.
People near me said it's good because it's art.
But i still cannot understand whether it's a curse or a blessing.
And when you try to realise something you end up with nothing you expected and lose motivation. Vicious cycle 😭
So much truth to this video. It's not that I choose to create. It's that creating chose me.
I'm so glad to hear this. It's the story of my life being a mega creative artist , winning prices at art academies and selling products to friends and family, but no wealthy future at all.
Eh, I’m tired of how the conversation surrounding creativity is always a monetary one, as if the value of any human trait or predilection should by necessity be predicated upon the potential for economic optimization. Wanna know why being creative is dope? You’re the closest to God when you’re in the flow state. It’s like hopping dimensions, doing drugs without doing drugs, getting high in a way that millions to billions of people can appreciate, resonate with and be inspired by.
Wanna know what sucks? You’re the closest to God when you’re in the flow state. It erodes you. The highs and lows can dilapidate your being, nature, and sanity. The passions get so intense on either end of the spectrum with life feeling so vibrant that the more hours you commit, the more you risk putting a gun in your mouth. The more time-in, the more you feel, the more emotional resonance you achieve, the more you risk, the more powerful you are, the more of a force of nature you are, the less human you are, the more illegible you become, the more isolated you become, the more obsessive you get, the less reliable you become, boom you’re dead, but you probably died some kind of fucked up demigod that a thousand HBO dramas will take inspiration from because your life most likely turned out to be a million times more entertaining in its retelling than the crusty adaptation managed on behalf of Joe Schmo Salary bro, because it was a literal psychological and physiological war.
It was bigger than the capitalism game. It was natural selection. It was participation in the war of ideas. It was fighting for legacy. It was challenging the sovereignty of the old gods, the Michelangelos and the Beethovens, the Chaucers and the Alighieris. It was all you truly ever had. It was oxygen. Not a goddamn paycheck.
@_thegonzoking for me I would like to make money with my creativity because as a working mother I am quite exhausted by the end of the day. There isn't much time left for my creativity, unless that is how I made my money, and didn't need a job, but that isn't the reality of the world. Plus, I don't want to just give away my work for free or as gifts, not even to be reimbursed for materials. People are greedy and ungrateful. People don't see value in creativity because we don't demand it. People know they need to pay for everything in this planet, even water and dirt has a price, but you try to sell a painting? A book? A poem? A photograph? People say, why should I pay money for that? So I can eat. That's why. So I can pay my bills, too.
@@kellyannespirithealing42 agreed. the thought that creativity (or art, to be more precise) and money are two mutually exclusive thing might sound romantic and ideal, but we dont trade our craft with food, water, electricity, or even materials we need and the most valuable of all things: *_time_* spent honing our skills and making the craft. no, we trade them with money. so of course the topic will always relate back to monetisation in some ways, whether about how to generate money from the craft or how to generate money through other means so we can still live and work on our craft (i.e., day jobs and such). am not some focken nice philantrophist gal. satisfaction when i created something doesnt put food on my table. *of course* i want to get paid, especially if that thing i create ended up being consumed by other people.
This, but less melodramatically.
💜
You can be creative as I am but you need food to live and money to pay rent. Of course you can try to live like Diogenes, that guy was a fucking savage, it's up to you.
I get very depressed and upset when I can’t create or struggle to create the quality of things I want to produce. It’s like a madness 🤦🏾♂️
I am a creative person for sure, I have ideas written down for paintings, stories- but even if I don’t have creative sparks coming, I always have my Bible to read and God to pray to! There is so much to do in the creative process but with his blessings and love there will always be a way❤️We’ll never be depressed with his love in us! Just thought I’d share ❤️
I post so much of my creative or cool ideas online, like on Twitter, and rarely does it get any attention. It made me think that maybe I'm not creative at all, and have been lying to myself this whole time. But now I understand why after watching this video. Honestly, I'm now even more discouraged to continue posting my work after ten years of nothing.
This video was kind of depressing. Mostly because I relate to it so well. Normal jobs are just so difficult to deal with because all I want to do is work on all my creative endeavors but those things don't put food on the table for my family and probably won't for years and even longer because I have to have a full-time job and can't put more time into improving my skills. But luckily I'm also a very determined individual so it's not going to stop me trying. Though I do hope succeed before I'm 90.
CONTRAdiction exactly my situation, keep the faith
I know exactly what you mean. By day I work hard for my employer because they deserve it and because my family rely entirely on my income. Yet, many a night I'll wake up troubled that I want to create more than time allows, that I want to be better at my craft, yet have no time to dedicate to it and could in no way replace my income. Faced with growing old and fearing never reaching my potential, let alone getting recognition for it.
Very creative person. Family man, 4 kids, lost job, sold all my stuff still no job because no one hires during holiday season. Depression kicking my ass. Stare at screen watching UA-cam with all spare time. WHY AM I NOT WORKING ON MY PROJECTS?? fml
CONTRAdiction exactly. We’re trapped in a fucking monopoly game. Society is limiting and we’re just a slave to a system
Don't sweat it too much. Jordan Peterson is known to present an especially pessimistic worldview
I do everything he suggests.
I'm not creative and never have been but it helps me understand those who are creative and the work involved
i'm feeling like that guy, that walks in late to everything.
Idk.. I had to take the best out of my life. Arts was the way. The way to survive existence. Life has unexpected surprises you have to relate to. I still have to accept what's happened to me. Suddenly it ends up. Badly. And probably that's the best part of the story. Certainly mine.
I am a business management student and currently a fashion design student. Well I need business knowledge to market my fashion product commercially, so both creativity and business knowledge to sell that creativity goes hand in hand.
I spent years trying to suppress my creative ideas, because it just wasn’t practical and I had bills to pay; but I was always miserable and often showed symptoms of depression and bipolar disorder. However as I’ve started developing my art skills and pursuing my creative ideas, I have a much more positive outlook on life and I tend not to stress out about mundane, everyday problems.
Also I can totally relate to his comment about listening to non-traditional music. For me it’s hardcore European techno music that really gets my creativity flowing.
"Not being able to create art, they will not understand art. They will think of their failure as creators only as a failure of the world."
- from 'Genius if the Crowd' by Charles Bukowski
"To do a dull thing with style - now that's what I call art". Charles Bukowski.
Great spirit Charles, real authentic true
"Artistas" se acham tão especiais em só criar algo novo, mesmo que todo mundo odeie, é patético.
@@fleija482 je hebt net als die nep figuur in de video iets 'wijs' te zeggen over creatieve mensen blijkbaar...De woorden creativiteit, kunst, kunstenaars, artiest en artistiek hebben verschillende betekenissen.
I come from a creative family. We have learned the importance of not only selling ones creativity but selling oneself. Basically being like able. The most successful artists in my family had offers flocking to them because people wanted to work with them. My daughter in High School has already been approached to do paid projects and I believe it is more because of her charisma than her art. Even though her art is good. Loved this lecture. Just wanted to add what I have seen first hand in the art world. No one wants a piece from an artist they hate. Because art is apart of the creators soul.
Being a person that is likable and pleasant to work with is more important than talent. I read a book about "hired guns" , people who are hired to play their instrument with a group or an artist for something like session work or another project. There was a list of attributes that would make someone successful doing this type of work. Talent was further down the list. Talent is abundant. Being able to get along with people was the most difficult trait to find and what put people at the top of this industry. It surprised me because I thought talent would be at the top.
I'm going to guess that when an artist is looking for someone to work with they need someone that will not create conflict in the process. It is a big setback to have a conflict with those you are collaborating with and damages the process for everyone.
@@kirkjohnson9353, You know Kirk what I observed working for people who were intelligent, first, they always were able to cultivate being likable. They never thought they could get things done without cooperation. Except for one English female Doctor, married well, had the six children she wanted studied all through that and passed all her exams brilliantly to become a psychiatrist. Not many on the staff really liked her neither men nor women. Maybe they all felt she was just too smart. Anyway, I'm no Jordan Peterson so I cannot pursue the why's and wherefores with the relentless ferocity he does but then I do not have an IQ of 150 or more as he does. He refuses to spare himself in his search for the truth. Ya gotta love him though he is a good man.
I feel like I used to be a creative person for as much of my life as I could be, until having to take part in adult life by paying bills and earning money through low-skilled work that doesn't require any creativity whatsoever. Having such limited spare time, or low energy in that spare time also makes it nearly impossible to keep being creatively engaged. That gap between creating art or products to then being able to monetize it is huge, and as it is just a lottery now I've found I don't even have my ticket anymore. I just hope that it's still possible in the future to bounce back into the creative mindset again if I ever get the opportunity to return to that lifestyle. I hear various claims about the peak age of mental acuity and hope I still have enough brain left to use on things that matter.
If you're creative,the first thing you should do is find other creative people.
Other people,like you,will protect you from the agression of those unlike them and encourage you to be creative and compliment you.
Its tough being creative alone and its even tougher being creative while being sorrounded by non creative people.
I've told a number of artist to not go to college for their craft. Learn it on your own and if you want college I would recommend a business degree. Nothing in the arts is guaranteed, but you can learn how to market yourself and appeal to public interest so that you may A) land a job to support yourself or B) learn how to turn your talent into a business. It's a hard gig, and I wish anyone the best of luck for taking it on.
If money didn’t exist people would still have reasons to create
No
Speaking for myself: Yes
Edit: I don't do it for money, I do it because it's my favorite thing to do. Money is a bonus.
Well before we had money, I believe we were too busy hunting, gathering and farming
This is so true. Without materialism (which we invented) there is only life and creativity. We were all creative at one point, but then someone decided not to be i guess. Kinda sad ngl
@@nevad1784 It's bitter-sweet. I really don't like Materialism, because it gives us a very boring and uninspiring, and sometimes quite depressing view of the world, however I am grateful for everything it gave us like the modern world around us and all its technology. (Except Social Media, that's just a virus, deadlier than the current pandemic). So I avoid, because it hinders my creativity, but recognize that it's helpful and useful to some people
Creativity is a gift for everyone, some people find it many different ways. You are the creator, so make something amazing. If your really passionate about it no rock roads or mountains should daunt you.
I’m creative. My life has been Hell & I’m broke. Wouldn’t change it though. Can’t bear to imagine being any other way than what I am.
Worked night shift in a warehouse after college and it was a piece of cake job with good money with benefits and everything. Even had incentives for your speed and following safety protocol and everything. But it took up an incredible amount of time with commute and overtime hours so even though I was making a ton of progress on that student loan I felt like I was being crushed. I would come home completely exhausted and just go straight to bed.
Drawing is my major creative outlet, so despite my logical brain telling me that my wrist was getting sore from my job and I should rest it, I would just draw and draw every weekend because I couldn't hold it in anymore and I needed to MAKE something. Moving objects around is work but it's not meaningful work, you know? I got so depressed. I quit my job, revamped my portfolio site and went into graphic design so I could walk that fine line between creative outlet and steady income, because I just felt suffocated doing endless monotonous work, no matter how easy it was.
I would say try and find a job that has sort of a 'busy season' and a 'slow season' and then use the slow season to just go to town on all those projects you want to work on. Anything I can do at work in between tasks in the slow part of the year I will totally bring to work with me. It just feels so much better to have room to get it all out of your system like that.
I've not found this to be true. But I have no desire for fame. As a musician I started using my creativity to come up with interesting and unique ideas for monetizing my music. I may never own a mansion, but I pay my bills, and that's good enough for me ;)
Appreciate the Art
Thanks Hisham Afifi for sharing video with us.
Welcome matrix stay creative
I’m so glad you did this as this is something I’ve come up against so many times in my life. I have fought my creativity in a very ordinary life career and I try and be normal but I’m always different. But I’m also smart in that area but I think differently. So I have not many allies. Life is really hard.
This couldn't have come at a more perfect time. It shocked me how you described my exact situation. Thank you, it feels good to know that I'm not alone.
Creativity ❤️
This is how i feel with my life. Creativity feels overwhelming. So much wisdom from this guy.
5:34 *misses a hell of a lecture.*
No, she was watching it live and said fuck this is good!
Late....and probably creative.
Netsayi Chigwendere haha
Brain Storm you’re right
Who went back to 5:34? Lol. Didn't even notice. Very observant.
I have listened to this lecture several times over throughout the years. Each time I can pick out another great nugget of wisdom.
Learn to live with less money. Stay out of debt, value your free time, appreciate your opportunities, spend more time with family, volunteering, growing closer to God.
Don’t compare yourself to others - live for what really matters.
Let others criticize and complain.
Just be who God made you to be. You’ll find yourself creating more than art; a life truly worth living.
Great advice right here.
Dan Woods thankss
Billy Boulton THE God. :)
In other words, settle for less.
@@billy77511 the God whose name is I AM
Being creative is not always about making money. Many times it's about the joy of being creative and creating something beautiful. Only creatives who enjoy marketing something understood tend to make money.
Very true. Once I bring money into it, it’s like I’m setting my creative mind in hell. It strips away my creativeness.
@@prodigy9885 there's a difference between doing something for and from the heart than creating a image for a client or the general public....
Onward......
Thank you Jordan. I’m a creative person, trained as a composer and fortunately found a way to make the bulk of my income from being a carpenter. I’m still writing and performing but wouldn’t be able to rely on this alone financially. The day job has also created a secondary avenue to be creative. I found this Video really encouraging. I would say to others to be grounded enough to dream but don’t let the ground work kill your dream.
Innate creativity exists for sure, many would say that it's the very source of life itself. Unfortunately it lies dormant and untapped in most. If you doubt what I say, develop a regular meditation practice and see for yourself. Your creative imagination will blossom and awaken in ways that you probably never even imagined possible.
I felt like Jordan Peterson knew who I was.
to all the young ones out there reading this...it doesnt mean that its all suffering and pain...there is light at the end of the tunnel...they can try and take everything away from you...but they can never take your thoughts...your freedom...your soul...your instincts....time will only tell..but remember your never alone....and dispair is a choice not an answer..
Valuable perspective for college students when at crossroads. I went into Educational counseling and teaching sign language p/t, which was safe and afforded me the time to be a free spirit. This delicate balance is everything. This also validated reason why I wont deal with mundane everyday tasks. How We live our lives IS art. Best wishes to all.
All of this was well said and transparent. This is why I have a job, my purpose as an educator, and then my passion on the side as a songwriter/artist. However my podcast is free haha so glad I found another creative outlet that takes time but not money (because I don't fully produce my own music, too intricate and too many skills I would have to hone further). Learning to use a DAW did give me the skills to record and edit my podcast very well though. One hand feeds the other!
My film professor once told me it takes 10 years to become an overnight sensation in Hollywood. That's not including the many years it will take you to learn the craft and be good enough to perform as an amature.
Not a professional, because the professionals (like Steven King, the Foo Fighters, Guns N Roses, Floyd Mayweather, Leonard DiCaprio, Eddie Murphy, etc) are the ones getting paid.
You're just a humble beginner trying to break into the business. But, you still need to practice like a professional, because you never know when opportunity will present itself.
It's a lonely road my friend. A very lonely road🤰
I'm just a humble poet who plays the ukulele. Will I become a world famous spoken word artist who plays the ukulele 🎸
Well, if all I did was lay on my couch and dream about it, then I would never have gotten started posting my spoken word poetry videos here on my UA-cam channel. It's better to of tried and failed than to be an 85 year old wondering what if 😲
There are magazines and websites who will pay me nicely for my poetry and clubs who want you to perform. So don't let people say poetry is dead, just because they are inside 💕
soooo, in a nutshell: 'don't quit your dayjob'
No. Make enough money and have the financial stability to quit your day job, usually when you're between 35-45 or later in life. That way you can either find a better job that suits your creative abilities or learn some things about business and marketing.
@@NamelessSensibility Thanks David! You're right. 25 now and balancing a dayjob with the start of a music carreer. :) Reading 12 Rules for life as we speak.
Cheers!
@@NamelessSensibility And few people in this world can do that. How many highly talented artists do you know who have such a highly paid job that they'll be able to retire at 35? If you're creative in the industries of software or high tech, you're already creating in your chosen field, and you may be able to retire at 35. If you're a watercolorist, on the other hand, the chances that you're gifted in finance or computer code or something that'll let you make millions and retire young are not very good. The artists I know have a hard time counting change, much less trading stocks on Wall Street.
@Psychonaut I only ever knew one person who was able to do that. He sold life insurance. He was tall, dark, and handsome, with a sweet nature that was naturally likable. He could sell anything to anybody, and he sold so much life insurance by the time he was 32 that he was able to retire and live off that income as a millionaire. All that coming from a small-town lower middle class family; his dad was a cop and his mom was a Mexican immigrant. But he's the only person I ever knew who was able to do that.
in a nutshell, creativity is not the whole thing
Seems like a big deal for creatives to learn business and entrepreneurial skills.
it takes time(many failures) but soon everyone gets there or maybe find something better to do
You dont get it- the point he was saying was to work with a team of people. If creatives focused on the strict structure of business it takes away from the energy for creative juices. We arent supposed to be every position in one person. No busines has that. Even bill gates had paul allen. Jay z had damon dash.
For myself, I was blessed to have marketing skills and professional experience. I was able to create my own business cards and web site.
I know a musician/entrepreneur who started his own consulting business that specifically is to help musicians promote themselves. After you reach a certain level and want to expand, then you'll need to hire an agent-promoter or service.
@@rainbowodysseybyjonlion An example of teaming up would be art colonies, where artists band together in one building or community. Lots of cities have these, and grants help them start or run.
Mtpimenta not true, I have a degree in business administration that I got last semester, next semester I am going to study musical composition, I have studied formal music for a very long while and although I disliked business, it never affected my education in music.
I'm so glad we have the internet now. It allows us to share our work with the world. More and more people are becoming full time content creators and 2020 has only served to accelerate it.
I write my own progressive jazz / classical metal music but I don't market myself I make money once in a while but I have food and shelter always so I'm happy for the most part
Having the knowledge without the power is very frustrating in life. Stay with it, work ethic ( relentless work ethic), IQ & risk is the key to capitalism.
GREAT ADVICE ! I took a U Turn from my creativity & stop trying to force the art to support me: I have a job to support myself. And I do my art on the side, in my free time. It’s going very well, I pay my bills, eat well, sleep well. Live a decent life. 💚☃️🌺
Thats how I figured out to live, "par hazard".
Creative people just need to creatively find ways to monetize their art.
There's some creativity involved in "marketing" but marketing isn't the same as trying to sell a product or service that you have created, marketing is an analysis of supply and demand in certain "markets" to figure out and provide products or services needed in that market.
Having said that, there appears to be a market for creatives in need of business savvy. If I were creative enough to find a solution I'd be ballin'
Dr. Peterson I am a singer/songwriter and love interior decorating. I graduated from nursing school and then got a Master's degree which allowed me to practice as a mental health counselor. I practiced as a psych nurse and substance use counselor for 45 years and have written many songs throughout my life.And yes, I am an INFJ. I sing for friends and at churches I have attended. I have many lovely memories of people's responses to the music I create. Those memories are priceless. Money and standing ovations are not.
Oh my God! Thanks! This was the advice I needed! I was starving here to death, not making money...I watched this great video and now I realise that I have to find a job!! thanks Jordan, you are a real lifesaver.
I generally agree with the Doctor. I agree that not everyone is creative, however it's a huge virtue in the business world. Especially in the future when AI will have marketing down to a science. Creative people with imagination and ideas will be in very high demand.
Matthew Shafer that most likely will be in 50 years
Agree!
The problem with creative people is that if you’re high in trait openness then you’ll always be stepping outside of evaluation structures, which means it’ll be really hard for creative people to climb in fields like those when the ones who are receiving good evaluations are the ones that always climb the ladder.
It's also not sound to put people in a box when most of us have more than one trait. Im creative , but I can still sell and close business, Network and market. Acquiring the specialized knowledge and skills needed to crush it should be the plan for any type of personality.
@@matthewshafer8313 I agree with your assessment Mr Shafer, but I would like to add one caveat to that.
If the creative person can burden the strain of the monotony involved in taking business related classes and courses necessary to gain the qualifications they will need to work in a professional business environment. To go from college to business and avoid the cubicle, requires an MBA or some such similar on the same level. While achievable in 3 years, creative people don't tend to do well at busy work, menial tasks or as previous stated: monotony. Which is precisely why they must avoid the lower rung positions of cubicle existence - which will feel like torture day in and day out.
If a creative person can knuckle down well enough to get an MBA in some specialty which they find agreeable enough to be tolerable - they'll be sitting pretty to do very well for themselves once they're in business at the level of having offices rather than cubicles.
If I ran a business, at the moment, I'd start recruiting the bright minds right out of college using apprenticeship programs so that they'd be able to put their creative talents to work as part of their college credits, under contract to work for the company for X number of years after graduation. I'd scoop up the talent before algorithms completely take over advertising and leave the competition destitute of brain power. It's a good thing I don't have controlling shares in any important firms, I'd be dangerous if someone had given me the above advice when I graduated high school.
Oh well.
A wise man once said “oil that squeaky door”
Claim: life is a long, hard suffering slog.
Easy response: how can I make it easier, faster, comfortable, convenient?
Creative: how can I make it harder, more vital, more enriching, more living?
This video is a downer. Stay inspired! Keep creating! and be fiscally responsible while you're doing it.
@@ejvonrhein been scribbling down stories since I was a kid but hit a few year slump....until I realized the whole reason I loved writing as a kid is because I had this burning desire to SHARE stories, not SELL them like I eventually grew into the idea of as an adult. (What stories are unique and experimental? VS what stories will be accepted by a publisher) When I was a dumbass little kid I had no concept of money, so I wrote because I simply enjoyed it.
Just my two cent revelation I had recently, now I'm getting back into digital art as well and it worked for me to kick the slump.
It couldn't be more true, for the first time in a long time I have fulltime employment. But it's now also the first time I really have the economy to start my own company and be creative.
Hes exactly right. The main difficulty of creativity is being tied down by your passions, and its easy to fall into a pit of despair if you’re not rooted in yourself. The self actualized creative person uses their sorrow as a well of meaning to further fuel their creativity. In that state its no longer depression you feel but sadness, like summer rain.
this is by far the most weird take on creativity I've seen.
1. I don't know if I can consider myself creative, but I'm pretty sure the majority of creative people would never trade their gift for anything else.
2. this feels more geared towards business than anything else.
I'm a poet, created and directed street theatre, I've had some acting experience, went pretty far in the music industry at one point....I'd trade it all to make a glorious living off of one of those achievements. To reach the end of a magnificent road, only to realize that the world doesn't give a shit....rent is still due on the 1st....I'd trade it all back in for monetary gain. Otherwise, all that talent will become beautiful memories and spoiled fruit.
No you look at photographers, Painters, Designers etc finding money directly from your craft drives you crazy. I tried for years to monetize my photography I was just in a bad location I now work for a radio station.. Life is alot better most of the time.
Yeah but you need to make money to live. You especially need to keep a roof over your head to create
Creative success isn't about money. It's about the experience.
It's all about the journey, and those little moments you get to share with youself...
finally, my pain articulated
I'm a writer that bartends for living. For me, it's all about motive.
To create or not is not even a choice. We must.
But...... When my motives shifted, so did my expectations. When I found myself writing for the joy of it and the service of others, I started to see a difference in my "success." It brought me to some big philosophical questions as well. What is art? What is creativity, really? Is it art if no one observes it? I love when I hear a thing that rings true for me. This video nailed it.
Jordan has just described in forensic detail my late husband's experience over 35 years of brilliant creative endeavour. We did nearly starve once, we were constantly under attack, and the end was - well, the end IS, I have a cure for one form of cancer in a box in the next room, and nobody in the world to take over the development work.