There’s also an internet duopoly in Canada with Bell and Rogers To give you an idea of how rich these companies are, Rogers OWNS the Toronto Blue Jays baseball team
I love the "Filmed from a Nondescript Bunker somewhere in Sheffield" look, but it will be very funny if it turns out to just be green screened in in post 😆😆😆
Seeing you two react to that American broadband map was rather funny. I used to be from a rural area and the highest speeds I could get was 200 kilobytes per minute…for $120 USD per month.
Karl didn't mention the infrastructure of America. I swear i can remember him talking about this, but the sheer size of this country is a huge factor in the internet thing. Not only do people mostly live in dense areas of the country, but it's so expensive to run the cables out to a farm so that a single family can use it, it just doesn't make sense. People often don't realize how massive this country is until they come here.
@@omnomnom504 That's a silly excuse. I live in Canada which is much bigger and much less densely populated and even waaaay up north in the territories you can get 25/50 down in the middle of fucking nowhere via satellite provider for about 80 bucks Canadian a month. Most of are cities are decked out in gigabit fiber. Your horrible internet is a policy decision from your lawmakers, not a logistical issue.
That map led me to learning that that North Dakota, the 19th biggest state and 4 least populous has some of the best and most widely available internet in the US which is crazy to me. It's kind of interesting how it ended up that way. Federal government helped install hundreds of fiber cable and has co-ops made up of local providers instead of relying on one of those companies that divvied up the country so they wouldn't have any competition. Good for them. Anyway, I'm in favor of bringing pigeons back to their heroic roots and having them deliver messages for us like in the old days.
No God damn way. I took a hiatus from UA-cam and made a new account a while ago. And could never remember the name of this channel. Now around a year later I found it again. I used to binge your content every day mate
Omg same kinda, i had at one point binged entire channels content around 2018, watched since, but just this past uni year ive not had time for my youtube watchin. Then Just now finished my course and been trying to re-find all the things i wanna catch up on, while over past 7 months been wondering why a guy at a bar i visit looks so familiar. And then i was like ah!!! Thats it! Fact fiend 😂
That's not just a UK thing. I couldn't have been more than 8 or 9 years old when me and my friends found a suitcase full of Hustler and Penthouse magazines in the woods by the train station.
Also I can probably take a stab at why the private internet provider can provide faster speed on the BT line. It is most like that transmit rate that uses a higher phase key than that of the government. The government probably uses the cheapest modulation available, most likely a BPSK or QPSK.
Yeah, it happens here in America, but not as much anymore. Usually teens who nicked some of their dad's porn stash and hid it in the woods for showing their friends
@@Eijiken well obviously doesn't happen anymore. When was the last time you even saw a p*** mag in the US? I think the last time I saw one was passing through an airport like 2 years ago
To give a bit of context on how competitors can provide a better service than BT on their own infrastructure. When the government introduced the legislation to force BT to open up their infrastructure to 3rd parties they also expressly forbid BT from undercutting competition on price since they didn't have the line rental.
I get the confusion about phone lines in the UK, but the broadband lines are technically owned by Openreach, which is part of the BT group, but is separate from the broadband company and highly regulated to ensure prices are competitive. Being part of a consumer association I've had to learn a lot of this stuff to nip people's questions that go down the wrong avenue in the bud.
i still remember downloading fallout 4 at a max speed of 156kb/s because despite buying physical, the case only has cardboard with a steam code on it. the day i was finally able to upgrade to 1MB/s because our local area finally got improved I cried because i was finally able to watch a youtube video over 360p without buffering every 10 seconds
It is really easy for me to think that fast internet is easily available, as i have always lived in cosmopolitan areas. I cant imagine what it is like in places like wyoming, or even west virginia. Thank you for reminding me that i am lucky.
Listening to this episode has been scary because I thought there was something thudding in the walls of my room, but it was Karl every time he hit the table with his wrists.
The private comm companies not only probably pay line rental at a different rate, but also use their own more modern equipment, which may be the responsible component for the speed in this individual case. Like having a cheap wireless router or a high quality one, and a high quality wifi set in the devices using the network. The wireless signal tech is the same, the equipment just makes better use of it by being just better.
You might want to overlay that broadband map with the federally owned land map as well as a population density map. Most of those big areas of blue are government land where nobody (effectively) lives. In particular most of Alaska and something like 80% of Nevada are just government land for mostly parks and protected reserves.
Aussie internet "enjoyer" here: It took me 2 days (+ 1 night) to download horizon forbidden west on PS4 Hearing that games are meant to download in like 12 minutes made me die a bit inside
Bro back on gta online 360 days my internet used to take 4 hours for a gigabyte. I always hated because it was like damn guess I'm not playing that game today...
BT was taken to court by the other providers because of BTs monopoly when it came to the physical telecoms network, the result was that BT had to form a company (Openreach) to maintain and provide the telecoms network and allow access to this network by the other providers, BT (sales) is treated like any of the other providers by Openreach, so it can't use the monopoly of once had to undercut the competition.
Exactly this! I’m in the billing side of Bt boo I know but it pays, I have to explain to so many callers tht if you want to het in touch with openreach you have to use their website, the tech team can book an engineer but that’s as far as it goes.
The companies can offer faster and cheaper internet than BT because they only have to pay BT a rental fee for the line, but BT has to pay for and maintain the whole infrastructure. Many countries have similar systems and in many countries, there’s a cap by the government, how much the rental fee can be. The other ISP can also make contracts that reserves a certain bandwidth per user. But nothing prevents that ISP to allocate 2 „bandwidths“ to a single customer. Often, those ISPs save money by not running a 24hr hotline to report problems or they are understaffed and you spend some time on hold until someone‘s available. My country has an ISP that also owns all the lines in the ground. They are more expensive but can be called 24/7 and the wait time in general is under 20 seconds. Almost every time, you can get a technician next day (if they are not busy, even same day). Most of the people are their customer because the other ISPs are a hell to deal with. So much that the 10-20€ cheaper monthly price of a contract is not worth it.
Another problem with those monopoly/duopoly ISPs is not only do they have no incentive to get better they are incentivized to prevent other ISPs from coming into the area
Wrap your head around this one. I live in a boarder town in fhe US thats right next to Mexico, so my phone will sometimes think Im in Mexico and stop giving me internet while I'm at home or at work, or even at university. Now, my town also only has two internet providors since we're on the white part of the map, that being either AT&T or Spectrum both charging between $50-70 for either capped or unlimited data and even more for fiber internet. Some people, like me, decide instead to get mobile hotspots for our homes because depending where we live we just cant have internet because "You're not near a tower so we can't provide you a router or internet." So some of us have to live with capped internet mobile hotspots provided by our phone carriers that sometimes just wont work because it thinks we're in Mexico...
So the "porn in a bush" thing wasn't in my community, but I bet I can take a solid crack at this. I know from my own experience and testimonies of those who did it, adult cis/het men where i grew up would go out of their way to make sure the younger generation were exposed to porn to "encourage heterosexual interests" in kids. Where I was openly bi and abstinent by choice (closet trans at the time) they pushed EXTRA hard and even straight up hid the stuff in my room once. When I finally started dating, I swear this is true, a few dozen adults told me about this weird tradition. Not sure if your bush pornos are related, but I'd be hard to convince it's not the same case
Sewage drain you say? Looks like you stumbled upon ol' Pennywise thr Clowns secret stash'a porno. Guess he couldnt get his pecker to "float" on its own, a'ya. Funny, didnt know the drainage pipes took water from the Kenduskeag all the way to Virginia
One of the reasons why I often second-guess leaving New York City is because I've grown accustomed to having a reliable 1-gig connection over fiberoptics with Verizon. I'm paying $250/month, but only because I also have two cable boxes with a maximized TV package for my relatives living with me (I actually don't even watch live television), as well as a home phoneline. They offer up to 2.5gb connection speeds, but until I start running a business out of my home, I don't see a reason for that upgrade.
Is that a YETI X? That's a great mic, among the best in it's price range IMO! From experience, I'd say it has a few problems though, which are easily solvable thankfully. First, I'd recommend getting a pop filter for it. It's a somewhat poppy mic, but it's not bad so any decently sized filter should do the trick. I'd also recommend having some dampening under it so slightly knocking the table wouldn't affect the recording as much. A large mousepad is sometimes used, since those things can cover most if not all of the table now days anyway. A stand that isn't directly connected to the table would also work, but those are bulky and a pain in the ass. Especially since the cord comes out directly from the bottom, which some stands don't accommodate for. I'd personally go with some dampening on the bottom or if I had to use an arm, I'd get something that connects from the side mounts rather than the bottom one. And from technical side, Logitech sucks with drivers as does microsoft, so prepare for a windows update to break the drivers completely every now and then. Or not, maybe they are better now than they used to be. And to be fair, what company doesn't have shitty drivers? At least nothing can be as bad as printer drivers though. EDIT: I'd also route the wire trough between the stand legs so it's easier to get out of the way.
Thanks for talking about your other channels. I didn't actually know about them and this video is the type of your content I prefer to watch most. You're right about the constant dillution of content though, Game Theory along with some other youtubers have talked about it, as it actually affects how many times UA-cam suggests a video subscribers.
Wait, do kids today not know about the time-honored tradition of Woods Porn? That's a worldwide thing! From San Diego, California to Bangor, Maine and beyond!
I grew up in a very rural area in Ohio. They started rolling out the Chromebooks when I was in, like, High School. And the school was in an even MORE rural area than where I lived. A LOT of kids that went there lived on farms or in the middle of nowhere. A genuine concern brought up in class, that I heard in person at least one time, was "How am I supposed to complete my Chromebook assignments? I don't have internet at home". It got so bad for me right before I started my first year at JVS that my mom gave up and started paying for the full family plan with unlimited data
The thing about the lines is that they're just wires sending electric signals over long distances. It's like a hose. How much water comes out of a hose depends on 2 things. How much pressure is in the hose, and how wide it is. So if the hoses are all the same width. The people with pumps (aka the companies with better servers) get to move more water much faster.
Karl. You Lucky Bugger. Your worst Internet speed is what I pray for on a good day. If I can get 5mb/s stable its cause for celebration. And I'm South African
American reporting in on porn in forests; it is not a uniquely British occurrence. When i was a teen, out airsofting in the forest with friends, we found a big flat sheet of that wood used in construction that’s a bunch of little pieces of wood compressed together that was covering a plastic tub that had been buried up to its lip, and it contained a backpack full of porn dvds and magazines.
As an American i can confirm that I've found numerous porn mags in the woods or along railroad tracks. Also not saying anime is a good reference point for it but in a few ive seen boys run across some mags for example Assassination Classroom.
This new is microphone is so good, but every time you touch your desk I can hear the thud, but its such a deep bass, I thought it was my neighbors in the apartment next to be having a wall smash XD, anyways keep up the good work!
BT charges thier rates to pay off the cost they had for providing the administration, technicians and exansion of thier network. THe others are paying for the use of the networks, but are required to pay BT for technicians, service and such themselves. In general its the BT customers paying the extra cost. BT would rather have large businesses paying the mfor rental than building thier own lines. Its the whole Home owner verus Rrntal arguement but instead of homes its the Internet lines.
I remember the Hungry Beast experiment. It was an experimental TV series. It was not even in the middle of nowhere. It was the outskirts of a major city. Internet is even worse than that in the middle of nowhere of Australia.
When you turned the monitor around to show blurry office, my phone buffered at that exact moment. I thought it was part of the video at first because I had a stable connection until that point.
In my area, during the 90s NTL installed their own network through out. Now this is run by Virgin Media. If you are able to get Virgin Media Cable TV you should be able to get their Broadband neither of these will require a line rental to BT
Slowest internet I've ever had (Australian here) was a couple years ago when I was able to connect to the internet but it was impossibly slow. The download/upload test said a Download of about 20 Bytes per second, and an Upload of a fraction of that. I was trying to update Warframe at the time, and the estimated time to completion literally said "Infinity". That "speed" lasted a whole long weekend I had off high school.
the prn stashes reminds me of a tree up a mountain in Ireland.... the Panty Tree.... right next to a lake... used to drive up that road for holidays with fam and there it was every year, a bare naked tree with lots of panties hanging from every branch like xmas baubles
We, prior to having fiber installed last year in our area (fairly rurual US, south-ish. We have gig speed hard wired. But prior to that it was like 20-25mpbs high end, I cant remember the data cap, but it was like 120 per month through hughes net. The other option i cant remember what it is, i think Windstream or some garbage like that which is even slower.
I don't know the highest speed we can get in Bulgaria, but it's over 200 Mbps. I personally have 100 Mbps and I pay less than 20 Euro for that combined with 120 TV channels.
In the 2010s (probably still relevant today) even in America, many storage/cloud companies like Amazon and Microsoft had large honkin semis that essentially functioned as huge mobile flash drives, because that was quicker to haul petabytes of storage using a truck than having it transferred over the Internet even at the enterprise scale. It's also why some streaming services will have their most populated content cached in various locations across the country because pulling/streaming content from cached sources was quicker, more efficient, and caused less congestion than if everyone streamed their data from a single source/server.
I live in rural Missouri. The only internet I have access to on my PC is through my phone's hotspot. The connection is pretty reliable, DLs at upwards of 3mb/s, and is only $15 a month (because of a family plan deal). But I've only got 15gb a month, then it slows to 128kbs. Which struggles to load even a Twitch popout chat. But is better than dial-up. Which we had until 2020.
I live in rural southeastern Ohio, in the foothills of Appalachia. About 2 months ago, my internet was upgraded to where I now can get up to 800kbps download during off-peak times for the price of $70/month. It had been about 400kbps for $60/month.
I already know this story but u live it and will hear it again. Like lists of "animals you've never heard of" like... yes I have, but I'll hear you tell me about them again! Bintarong smells like popcorn, yup, sure does, Zaboomafoo nostalgia
I think it’s funny that my home state has a massive sprawling urban/suburban area in the center and it can’t get broadband but the rural towns on the border can
I live half an hour from the nearest city and half a mile (not even a kilometer for those not in the states) from the main road of my town, which does get broadband, and we don't have no broadband options at all. I am posting this using data on my phone.
When moving large amounts of data (at the scale of hundreds of terabytes to multiple petabytes), it's not uncommon to transfer data this way, often referred to as sneakernet. Amazon Web Services even has an option of renting a semi-truck with storage capacity of up to 100 petabyte per truck, that can be uploaded to their cloud services in a matter of weeks. If you wanted to upload 100 petabytes worth of data with a 1 Gbps internet connection, it would take over 25 years.
In my area (in the USA) for $60 a month it's a max speed of 5mb/s down, via satellite with 800-1800ms ping, 25 gb a month data cap, requiring you to agree to three different throttling agreements. There are no competitors. The DSL in the area is dial up and is being run over literally 60 year old phone lines. ATT is waiting to fail so they can replace it since they get subsidies for new infrastructure but nothing for maintaining it. Both options are literally unusable so I have to just plug my cell phone into my computer and use it as a literal dial up modem.
I have gigabit internet service in my corner of San Diego without even needing a fiber line because SD is the only area in the country serviced by both Cox and AT&T. All the ISPs could get away with nearly unfathomable speed increases without even upgrading in many areas if they just tried the tiniest bit.
Had a datalimmit 20+ years ago and the provider was like nah their is no datalimmit for our clients. Try to download a modern video game 100GB to 150GB in size with a dial up.
West Texas person here and I get 200Mbps (can usually get 500 to 600 regularly) down and 100Mbps up for $130 a month. I live in a small town and was lucky to have fiber to the house.
Up until last year we were living in a place where the top speeds were 6 mb/s (in practice closer to 2 mb/s), which usually cost $80 but if you were clever and kind you could talk them down to $45. If you didn't like that you could get a satellite company that would give you 25 mb/s but your data was capped at 10 gb and the base price was $150. Now I can get 25 mb/s for $80 satellite or 50 mb/s fiber for $80, but you can only have 4 devices on the line. Both our major internet providers here were sold off within the last 3 years tho so who knows what's to come?
i used to live in little rock arkansas in the rural country sides. it was tough since i lived in california for a long time. the fastest internet i could get in the country at the time which was back in 2010 i think was like 3-4 mbps for like $30 per month. i lived there for like 2 years and couldn't really take the country life there so moved back to cali. i still have friends and family that still live there and still does't have broadband internet.
As a South African I can attest to the shitty speed of Telkom and when we had asked when fiber would be installed in our area they said 3 months. Three years later a different company installed fiber in our area Telkom then offered us a fiber contract we told them to screw off cause we had bought a contract with a different company that was faster for 400 bucks less then the contract they had offered us
I went from living in a Town (19,000) with a so called 1,000 (650) Mbps at $145 a month. Moved out to the country and had to deal with 6 Mbps for $86. Two months after moving I have 1,000 (970) Mbps for $99.00.
I get a bill of 45 dollars a month for xfinity with download speeds of 200mbps and upload speeds of 100mbps. I mainly got that price because I have my own equipment and I negotiated the price down. With the federal discount for students I usually pay 15 dollars, and at times as low as 6 a month. Plus if there’s an outage of even a day and you report it you get 5 dollars back. So Ive had a free month before. That’s in Northern California btw.
So I live in the US state of Kentucky, in a rural podunky region that actually doesn't get any of the big name internet providers, we have a small, local one, who all of their shit looks like its straight out of the 90s/early 2000s, and they are the only internet provider in the area. They have 2 options, well technically 3 but the faster fiber option isnt available where I live, so the two options given to me, are $50 a month and $75. I upgraded to the $75 a month option because it was literally twice as fast as the other one. I average 10-12 mbps.
Also, it makes sense that pigeons can do it faster because they're just moving the physical storage device. Like a computer has to either copy it or prepare the same files, transmit them over internet lines after going through everything to connect to the network, etc. etc. etc., and depending on the provider, this is either instant, or the cause of the failed uploads. Then you have to download it onto the other PC, which could take equally as long. Or you can just pull the hard-drive out and take it there in a straight line. At that point it becomes about how much you can send *in one go*. That pigeon will always take an hour to get to the same place, but an upload speed increases proportionally to the file size and internet quality. I can 1 one or 100 little SD cards in a little backpack and still send that same pigeon an hour away. And that is exponentially more data sent in the same physical travel distance over the same time, with no digital downsides whatsoever.
I agree wifi is shit, anytime someone in an online game tells me they have trouble staying connected my first question is "are you on wifi?" and if they say yes "you should fix that."
At the mention of dial up i just had to day i work for a local coop that provides internet service and we still have like a dozen or 2 customers that pay and use dial up and it just baffles me.
Couldn't post exactly where without doxxing myself, but Kentucky in a smaller town ranging 200-950mbps. The caveat being I live very near the main street of the small town.
There's something about hearing the old dial up sound that makes me happy, despite it being annoying and slow as f**k! I'm with toob now. Between 700 and 900mbs , get toob guys, u won't regret it
The tradition was when you'd get married and have kids you gotta get rid of all but maybe one or two mags/dvds cleverly hidden in the attic. Everything else put in a box and dumped in the woods for the next teenager that wants them. US does it too
there were rules put in place at the time with BT. They were made to separate into two entities. the BT you and me might pay my phone bill to, and "bt wholesale" Who had to by law sell to other providers and weren't allowed to price gouge or undercut. When BT was sold off from being gov owned this was concession they had to make in order to inherit all that lovely tax funded infrastructure. So the BT you buy BT broadband from, is also buying wholesale from the "BT" who own the infra the providers rent.
I live in Georgia in the United States. We only have two Internet providers and my house is just outside the line they cover both of my neighbors have one from two different companies that won't come to my house
Oh, it's worse than that map suggests. Up until the last 2 or 3 years. Within 20 miles of the main Microsoft Campus in Washington State. There are entire towns that had DSL at 8 mb/s. If you were really unlucky, the Only option was HughesNet Satellite internet service. It worked okay, but you couldn't play any games or Skype/zoom calls. The pings were insanely long. Why this was especially frustrating was you drive UNDER the wires on the telephone poles to get home. But, private Road. You're renting, so no one is paying the tens of thousands of dollars to bring the cables up the road.
USA porn goblins exist. Sometimes even on a grander scale. When I was maybe 12-13 we found an abandoned motorhome on the neighbors extremely large property. Rather than being filled with bodies, it was filled with at least 3-4 dozen mags of the nude variety lol
I just got a service call a few days ago trying to sell me unlimited data on internet for like $60 more but the LIMITED data i have is so high per month i would probably have to delete and reinstall skyrim 500 times a month to reach that limit.
New mic, eh? I hate how it sounds...
Of all the things you could choose to be, you really woke up today wanting to an arsehole huh?
I think it sounds fine.
Be more constructive
With your feedback, please.
-Flight of the Concords
@@FactFiend Don't be angry, daddy, I'm sorry :(
@@Remon_no_Ki I guess he had already noticed the loud bass thuds from touching the table constantly...
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."
- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
The lag of several hours makes an fps slightly frustrating though
There’s also an internet duopoly in Canada with Bell and Rogers
To give you an idea of how rich these companies are, Rogers OWNS the Toronto Blue Jays baseball team
Dont forget Telus
I love the "Filmed from a Nondescript Bunker somewhere in Sheffield" look, but it will be very funny if it turns out to just be green screened in in post 😆😆😆
Can never escape the green screen
Seeing you two react to that American broadband map was rather funny. I used to be from a rural area and the highest speeds I could get was 200 kilobytes per minute…for $120 USD per month.
Karl didn't mention the infrastructure of America. I swear i can remember him talking about this, but the sheer size of this country is a huge factor in the internet thing. Not only do people mostly live in dense areas of the country, but it's so expensive to run the cables out to a farm so that a single family can use it, it just doesn't make sense. People often don't realize how massive this country is until they come here.
for 3 months the highest speed i got was 100 BYTES
$120 per month!!! I thought I was being robbed paying £40 a month
@@omnomnom504 That's a silly excuse. I live in Canada which is much bigger and much less densely populated and even waaaay up north in the territories you can get 25/50 down in the middle of fucking nowhere via satellite provider for about 80 bucks Canadian a month. Most of are cities are decked out in gigabit fiber. Your horrible internet is a policy decision from your lawmakers, not a logistical issue.
Time to get Starlink
"You can't hack a Pidgeon? Son, get me my axe!"
That map led me to learning that that North Dakota, the 19th biggest state and 4 least populous has some of the best and most widely available internet in the US which is crazy to me. It's kind of interesting how it ended up that way. Federal government helped install hundreds of fiber cable and has co-ops made up of local providers instead of relying on one of those companies that divvied up the country so they wouldn't have any competition. Good for them.
Anyway, I'm in favor of bringing pigeons back to their heroic roots and having them deliver messages for us like in the old days.
No God damn way. I took a hiatus from UA-cam and made a new account a while ago. And could never remember the name of this channel. Now around a year later I found it again. I used to binge your content every day mate
Welcome back! It's changed but it's still great!
Omg same kinda, i had at one point binged entire channels content around 2018, watched since, but just this past uni year ive not had time for my youtube watchin. Then Just now finished my course and been trying to re-find all the things i wanna catch up on, while over past 7 months been wondering why a guy at a bar i visit looks so familiar. And then i was like ah!!! Thats it! Fact fiend 😂
That's not just a UK thing. I couldn't have been more than 8 or 9 years old when me and my friends found a suitcase full of Hustler and Penthouse magazines in the woods by the train station.
Also I can probably take a stab at why the private internet provider can provide faster speed on the BT line. It is most like that transmit rate that uses a higher phase key than that of the government. The government probably uses the cheapest modulation available, most likely a BPSK or QPSK.
Yeah, it happens here in America, but not as much anymore.
Usually teens who nicked some of their dad's porn stash and hid it in the woods for showing their friends
@@Eijiken well obviously doesn't happen anymore. When was the last time you even saw a p*** mag in the US? I think the last time I saw one was passing through an airport like 2 years ago
To give a bit of context on how competitors can provide a better service than BT on their own infrastructure. When the government introduced the legislation to force BT to open up their infrastructure to 3rd parties they also expressly forbid BT from undercutting competition on price since they didn't have the line rental.
I get the confusion about phone lines in the UK, but the broadband lines are technically owned by Openreach, which is part of the BT group, but is separate from the broadband company and highly regulated to ensure prices are competitive. Being part of a consumer association I've had to learn a lot of this stuff to nip people's questions that go down the wrong avenue in the bud.
i still remember downloading fallout 4 at a max speed of 156kb/s because despite buying physical, the case only has cardboard with a steam code on it.
the day i was finally able to upgrade to 1MB/s because our local area finally got improved I cried because i was finally able to watch a youtube video over 360p without buffering every 10 seconds
It is really easy for me to think that fast internet is easily available, as i have always lived in cosmopolitan areas. I cant imagine what it is like in places like wyoming, or even west virginia.
Thank you for reminding me that i am lucky.
Not really lucky, youd just move to a populated area and not a fgarm in the middle of nowhere if you really cared.
What an obscure topic to have an accidental upload date share with someone on
Jeff geerling put out a similar video an hour or two earlier
Jeff Geerling just made an interesing video on this!
Just came to comment the same information, but decided to search the comments first.
I thought someone was walking around upstairs, but it was just Karl lightly touching the desk. 😂
Glad I wasn't the only one that got freaked out about it.
Listening to this episode has been scary because I thought there was something thudding in the walls of my room, but it was Karl every time he hit the table with his wrists.
The private comm companies not only probably pay line rental at a different rate, but also use their own more modern equipment, which may be the responsible component for the speed in this individual case. Like having a cheap wireless router or a high quality one, and a high quality wifi set in the devices using the network. The wireless signal tech is the same, the equipment just makes better use of it by being just better.
You might want to overlay that broadband map with the federally owned land map as well as a population density map. Most of those big areas of blue are government land where nobody (effectively) lives. In particular most of Alaska and something like 80% of Nevada are just government land for mostly parks and protected reserves.
Aussie internet "enjoyer" here: It took me 2 days (+ 1 night) to download horizon forbidden west on PS4
Hearing that games are meant to download in like 12 minutes made me die a bit inside
Bro back on gta online 360 days my internet used to take 4 hours for a gigabyte. I always hated because it was like damn guess I'm not playing that game today...
BT was taken to court by the other providers because of BTs monopoly when it came to the physical telecoms network, the result was that BT had to form a company (Openreach) to maintain and provide the telecoms network and allow access to this network by the other providers, BT (sales) is treated like any of the other providers by Openreach, so it can't use the monopoly of once had to undercut the competition.
Exactly this! I’m in the billing side of Bt boo I know but it pays, I have to explain to so many callers tht if you want to het in touch with openreach you have to use their website, the tech team can book an engineer but that’s as far as it goes.
here in America as a kid I found a couple playboys out in a bush
The companies can offer faster and cheaper internet than BT because they only have to pay BT a rental fee for the line, but BT has to pay for and maintain the whole infrastructure. Many countries have similar systems and in many countries, there’s a cap by the government, how much the rental fee can be. The other ISP can also make contracts that reserves a certain bandwidth per user. But nothing prevents that ISP to allocate 2 „bandwidths“ to a single customer.
Often, those ISPs save money by not running a 24hr hotline to report problems or they are understaffed and you spend some time on hold until someone‘s available. My country has an ISP that also owns all the lines in the ground. They are more expensive but can be called 24/7 and the wait time in general is under 20 seconds. Almost every time, you can get a technician next day (if they are not busy, even same day). Most of the people are their customer because the other ISPs are a hell to deal with. So much that the 10-20€ cheaper monthly price of a contract is not worth it.
i can imagine a internet service called Pigeon
Also as a Canadian lass in British Columbia I’ve found it in a bush when I was 16 and also glued to a board in an abandon house as well 😂
are you sure it was glued with glue
Another problem with those monopoly/duopoly ISPs is not only do they have no incentive to get better they are incentivized to prevent other ISPs from coming into the area
Wrap your head around this one. I live in a boarder town in fhe US thats right next to Mexico, so my phone will sometimes think Im in Mexico and stop giving me internet while I'm at home or at work, or even at university. Now, my town also only has two internet providors since we're on the white part of the map, that being either AT&T or Spectrum both charging between $50-70 for either capped or unlimited data and even more for fiber internet. Some people, like me, decide instead to get mobile hotspots for our homes because depending where we live we just cant have internet because "You're not near a tower so we can't provide you a router or internet." So some of us have to live with capped internet mobile hotspots provided by our phone carriers that sometimes just wont work because it thinks we're in Mexico...
So the "porn in a bush" thing wasn't in my community, but I bet I can take a solid crack at this. I know from my own experience and testimonies of those who did it, adult cis/het men where i grew up would go out of their way to make sure the younger generation were exposed to porn to "encourage heterosexual interests" in kids. Where I was openly bi and abstinent by choice (closet trans at the time) they pushed EXTRA hard and even straight up hid the stuff in my room once. When I finally started dating, I swear this is true, a few dozen adults told me about this weird tradition. Not sure if your bush pornos are related, but I'd be hard to convince it's not the same case
In virginia there was a sewage drain my friend and I saved a kitten from, I remember finding some magazines in there that were pretty risqué.
Kitty had interesting taste, aye?
Sewage drain you say? Looks like you stumbled upon ol' Pennywise thr Clowns secret stash'a porno. Guess he couldnt get his pecker to "float" on its own, a'ya. Funny, didnt know the drainage pipes took water from the Kenduskeag all the way to Virginia
I am not from from UK nor US. But I have also found a magazine in a bush as a young lad. I still have it.
One of the reasons why I often second-guess leaving New York City is because I've grown accustomed to having a reliable 1-gig connection over fiberoptics with Verizon.
I'm paying $250/month, but only because I also have two cable boxes with a maximized TV package for my relatives living with me (I actually don't even watch live television), as well as a home phoneline.
They offer up to 2.5gb connection speeds, but until I start running a business out of my home, I don't see a reason for that upgrade.
Is that a YETI X? That's a great mic, among the best in it's price range IMO! From experience, I'd say it has a few problems though, which are easily solvable thankfully.
First, I'd recommend getting a pop filter for it. It's a somewhat poppy mic, but it's not bad so any decently sized filter should do the trick.
I'd also recommend having some dampening under it so slightly knocking the table wouldn't affect the recording as much. A large mousepad is sometimes used, since those things can cover most if not all of the table now days anyway. A stand that isn't directly connected to the table would also work, but those are bulky and a pain in the ass. Especially since the cord comes out directly from the bottom, which some stands don't accommodate for. I'd personally go with some dampening on the bottom or if I had to use an arm, I'd get something that connects from the side mounts rather than the bottom one.
And from technical side, Logitech sucks with drivers as does microsoft, so prepare for a windows update to break the drivers completely every now and then. Or not, maybe they are better now than they used to be. And to be fair, what company doesn't have shitty drivers? At least nothing can be as bad as printer drivers though.
EDIT: I'd also route the wire trough between the stand legs so it's easier to get out of the way.
Thanks for talking about your other channels. I didn't actually know about them and this video is the type of your content I prefer to watch most.
You're right about the constant dillution of content though, Game Theory along with some other youtubers have talked about it, as it actually affects how many times UA-cam suggests a video subscribers.
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a pigeon.
Wait, do kids today not know about the time-honored tradition of Woods Porn? That's a worldwide thing! From San Diego, California to Bangor, Maine and beyond!
I grew up in a very rural area in Ohio. They started rolling out the Chromebooks when I was in, like, High School. And the school was in an even MORE rural area than where I lived. A LOT of kids that went there lived on farms or in the middle of nowhere. A genuine concern brought up in class, that I heard in person at least one time, was "How am I supposed to complete my Chromebook assignments? I don't have internet at home". It got so bad for me right before I started my first year at JVS that my mom gave up and started paying for the full family plan with unlimited data
The thing about the lines is that they're just wires sending electric signals over long distances. It's like a hose. How much water comes out of a hose depends on 2 things. How much pressure is in the hose, and how wide it is. So if the hoses are all the same width. The people with pumps (aka the companies with better servers) get to move more water much faster.
Karl. You Lucky Bugger. Your worst Internet speed is what I pray for on a good day. If I can get 5mb/s stable its cause for celebration. And I'm South African
I pray for 1mb/s because my best is kbs, the south African struggle😭😭.
American reporting in on porn in forests; it is not a uniquely British occurrence. When i was a teen, out airsofting in the forest with friends, we found a big flat sheet of that wood used in construction that’s a bunch of little pieces of wood compressed together that was covering a plastic tub that had been buried up to its lip, and it contained a backpack full of porn dvds and magazines.
As an American i can confirm that I've found numerous porn mags in the woods or along railroad tracks. Also not saying anime is a good reference point for it but in a few ive seen boys run across some mags for example Assassination Classroom.
Also it's incredibly funny to me that WW1 soldiers were using a faster method of communication than budget internet.
This new is microphone is so good, but every time you touch your desk I can hear the thud, but its such a deep bass, I thought it was my neighbors in the apartment next to be having a wall smash XD, anyways keep up the good work!
I think my headphones make it worse than it is
Released the same day that Jeff Geerling releases his video where he tested this concept/RFC
BT charges thier rates to pay off the cost they had for providing the administration, technicians and exansion of thier network.
THe others are paying for the use of the networks, but are required to pay BT for technicians, service and such themselves.
In general its the BT customers paying the extra cost. BT would rather have large businesses paying the mfor rental than building thier own lines. Its the whole Home owner verus Rrntal arguement but instead of homes its the Internet lines.
I remember the Hungry Beast experiment. It was an experimental TV series. It was not even in the middle of nowhere. It was the outskirts of a major city. Internet is even worse than that in the middle of nowhere of Australia.
When you turned the monitor around to show blurry office, my phone buffered at that exact moment. I thought it was part of the video at first because I had a stable connection until that point.
In my area, during the 90s NTL installed their own network through out. Now this is run by Virgin Media. If you are able to get Virgin Media Cable TV you should be able to get their Broadband neither of these will require a line rental to BT
Additionally Hull, as nearly all telecom services in Hull are supplied by KCOM
Canadian chiming in, bush porn definitely had two meanings when I was a kid.
On the duopoly: There's also Comcast.
Slowest internet I've ever had (Australian here) was a couple years ago when I was able to connect to the internet but it was impossibly slow.
The download/upload test said a Download of about 20 Bytes per second, and an Upload of a fraction of that.
I was trying to update Warframe at the time, and the estimated time to completion literally said "Infinity".
That "speed" lasted a whole long weekend I had off high school.
the prn stashes reminds me of a tree up a mountain in Ireland.... the Panty Tree.... right next to a lake... used to drive up that road for holidays with fam and there it was every year, a bare naked tree with lots of panties hanging from every branch like xmas baubles
We, prior to having fiber installed last year in our area (fairly rurual US, south-ish. We have gig speed hard wired. But prior to that it was like 20-25mpbs high end, I cant remember the data cap, but it was like 120 per month through hughes net. The other option i cant remember what it is, i think Windstream or some garbage like that which is even slower.
5:20 I remember when I went to Birmingham I found full bottles of alcohol in bushes and I wonder if anyone else had found them as well.
I don't know the highest speed we can get in Bulgaria, but it's over 200 Mbps. I personally have 100 Mbps and I pay less than 20 Euro for that combined with 120 TV channels.
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurling down the highway.
Need to add a floating Lukas head to line up with Karl's eye line... Could even pay homage to Pee-Wee and have him in a box like Jambi.
In the 2010s (probably still relevant today) even in America, many storage/cloud companies like Amazon and Microsoft had large honkin semis that essentially functioned as huge mobile flash drives, because that was quicker to haul petabytes of storage using a truck than having it transferred over the Internet even at the enterprise scale.
It's also why some streaming services will have their most populated content cached in various locations across the country because pulling/streaming content from cached sources was quicker, more efficient, and caused less congestion than if everyone streamed their data from a single source/server.
What a interesting coincidence to see you and Jeff Geerling cover this topic so close to each other
I live in rural Missouri. The only internet I have access to on my PC is through my phone's hotspot. The connection is pretty reliable, DLs at upwards of 3mb/s, and is only $15 a month (because of a family plan deal). But I've only got 15gb a month, then it slows to 128kbs. Which struggles to load even a Twitch popout chat. But is better than dial-up.
Which we had until 2020.
I live in rural southeastern Ohio, in the foothills of Appalachia. About 2 months ago, my internet was upgraded to where I now can get up to 800kbps download during off-peak times for the price of $70/month. It had been about 400kbps for $60/month.
Introducing Pigeon Net! Starting with a 50TB per hour upload and download speed! As storage technology advances so dose Pigeon Net!
I already know this story but u live it and will hear it again. Like lists of "animals you've never heard of" like... yes I have, but I'll hear you tell me about them again! Bintarong smells like popcorn, yup, sure does, Zaboomafoo nostalgia
I think it’s funny that my home state has a massive sprawling urban/suburban area in the center and it can’t get broadband but the rural towns on the border can
I live half an hour from the nearest city and half a mile (not even a kilometer for those not in the states) from the main road of my town, which does get broadband, and we don't have no broadband options at all. I am posting this using data on my phone.
I know you already did it on the podcast but the Australian experiment always amused me
enjoying your channel found you because of Top Ten doing a great job mate. 👍🇦🇺
When moving large amounts of data (at the scale of hundreds of terabytes to multiple petabytes), it's not uncommon to transfer data this way, often referred to as sneakernet.
Amazon Web Services even has an option of renting a semi-truck with storage capacity of up to 100 petabyte per truck, that can be uploaded to their cloud services in a matter of weeks.
If you wanted to upload 100 petabytes worth of data with a 1 Gbps internet connection, it would take over 25 years.
In my area (in the USA) for $60 a month it's a max speed of 5mb/s down, via satellite with 800-1800ms ping, 25 gb a month data cap, requiring you to agree to three different throttling agreements. There are no competitors. The DSL in the area is dial up and is being run over literally 60 year old phone lines. ATT is waiting to fail so they can replace it since they get subsidies for new infrastructure but nothing for maintaining it. Both options are literally unusable so I have to just plug my cell phone into my computer and use it as a literal dial up modem.
I have gigabit internet service in my corner of San Diego without even needing a fiber line because SD is the only area in the country serviced by both Cox and AT&T. All the ISPs could get away with nearly unfathomable speed increases without even upgrading in many areas if they just tried the tiniest bit.
"Do you know the amount of (prawn) stashes i came across". Lmao well played, sir.
Had a datalimmit 20+ years ago and the provider was like nah their is no datalimmit for our clients. Try to download a modern video game 100GB to 150GB in size with a dial up.
Around Chicagoland we used to have woods porn. It was super common pre internet to find it in hollow logs and trees. So yeah America has it.
6:03 lmao I remember it was super common in Norway in the 90s
West Texas person here and I get 200Mbps (can usually get 500 to 600 regularly) down and 100Mbps up for $130 a month. I live in a small town and was lucky to have fiber to the house.
Up until last year we were living in a place where the top speeds were 6 mb/s (in practice closer to 2 mb/s), which usually cost $80 but if you were clever and kind you could talk them down to $45. If you didn't like that you could get a satellite company that would give you 25 mb/s but your data was capped at 10 gb and the base price was $150. Now I can get 25 mb/s for $80 satellite or 50 mb/s fiber for $80, but you can only have 4 devices on the line. Both our major internet providers here were sold off within the last 3 years tho so who knows what's to come?
During both world wars, messages were often sent by pigeons.
Internet Protocol Address for pigeon = Identification Pigeon Anklet
i used to live in little rock arkansas in the rural country sides. it was tough since i lived in california for a long time. the fastest internet i could get in the country at the time which was back in 2010 i think was like 3-4 mbps for like $30 per month. i lived there for like 2 years and couldn't really take the country life there so moved back to cali. i still have friends and family that still live there and still does't have broadband internet.
Frontier has a monopoly here,
I get 250kbs on a good day.
Driving to the next town and using Walmart wifi is the fastest way to download anything.
As a South African I can attest to the shitty speed of Telkom and when we had asked when fiber would be installed in our area they said 3 months. Three years later a different company installed fiber in our area Telkom then offered us a fiber contract we told them to screw off cause we had bought a contract with a different company that was faster for 400 bucks less then the contract they had offered us
I went from living in a Town (19,000) with a so called 1,000 (650) Mbps at $145 a month. Moved out to the country and had to deal with 6 Mbps for $86. Two months after moving I have 1,000 (970) Mbps for $99.00.
I get a bill of 45 dollars a month for xfinity with download speeds of 200mbps and upload speeds of 100mbps. I mainly got that price because I have my own equipment and I negotiated the price down. With the federal discount for students I usually pay 15 dollars, and at times as low as 6 a month. Plus if there’s an outage of even a day and you report it you get 5 dollars back. So Ive had a free month before. That’s in Northern California btw.
So I live in the US state of Kentucky, in a rural podunky region that actually doesn't get any of the big name internet providers, we have a small, local one, who all of their shit looks like its straight out of the 90s/early 2000s, and they are the only internet provider in the area. They have 2 options, well technically 3 but the faster fiber option isnt available where I live, so the two options given to me, are $50 a month and $75.
I upgraded to the $75 a month option because it was literally twice as fast as the other one. I average 10-12 mbps.
Also, it makes sense that pigeons can do it faster because they're just moving the physical storage device.
Like a computer has to either copy it or prepare the same files, transmit them over internet lines after going through everything to connect to the network, etc. etc. etc., and depending on the provider, this is either instant, or the cause of the failed uploads.
Then you have to download it onto the other PC, which could take equally as long.
Or you can just pull the hard-drive out and take it there in a straight line. At that point it becomes about how much you can send *in one go*. That pigeon will always take an hour to get to the same place, but an upload speed increases proportionally to the file size and internet quality. I can 1 one or 100 little SD cards in a little backpack and still send that same pigeon an hour away. And that is exponentially more data sent in the same physical travel distance over the same time, with no digital downsides whatsoever.
I agree wifi is shit, anytime someone in an online game tells me they have trouble staying connected my first question is "are you on wifi?" and if they say yes "you should fix that."
Pidgeon internet? Would that make Dastardly and Muttley in their flying machines, hackers?
At the mention of dial up i just had to day i work for a local coop that provides internet service and we still have like a dozen or 2 customers that pay and use dial up and it just baffles me.
I just love the thought of some random people stashing porn in the woods and bushes just so that others can find it lol
Magazines in bushes is no basis for a system of pornography distribution!
Couldn't post exactly where without doxxing myself, but Kentucky in a smaller town ranging 200-950mbps. The caveat being I live very near the main street of the small town.
There's something about hearing the old dial up sound that makes me happy, despite it being annoying and slow as f**k!
I'm with toob now. Between 700 and 900mbs , get toob guys, u won't regret it
Comments I never thought I'd write #1044: Yes, we also have )p)orn goblins in America
The tradition was when you'd get married and have kids you gotta get rid of all but maybe one or two mags/dvds cleverly hidden in the attic. Everything else put in a box and dumped in the woods for the next teenager that wants them. US does it too
there were rules put in place at the time with BT. They were made to separate into two entities. the BT you and me might pay my phone bill to, and "bt wholesale" Who had to by law sell to other providers and weren't allowed to price gouge or undercut. When BT was sold off from being gov owned this was concession they had to make in order to inherit all that lovely tax funded infrastructure. So the BT you buy BT broadband from, is also buying wholesale from the "BT" who own the infra the providers rent.
The sound is better, right on
a few times i tried to download a 20 Gigas games from steam and it took over 5 hours
I live in Georgia in the United States. We only have two Internet providers and my house is just outside the line they cover both of my neighbors have one from two different companies that won't come to my house
Oh, it's worse than that map suggests. Up until the last 2 or 3 years. Within 20 miles of the main Microsoft Campus in Washington State. There are entire towns that had DSL at 8 mb/s.
If you were really unlucky, the Only option was HughesNet Satellite internet service. It worked okay, but you couldn't play any games or Skype/zoom calls. The pings were insanely long.
Why this was especially frustrating was you drive UNDER the wires on the telephone poles to get home. But, private Road. You're renting, so no one is paying the tens of thousands of dollars to bring the cables up the road.
USA porn goblins exist. Sometimes even on a grander scale. When I was maybe 12-13 we found an abandoned motorhome on the neighbors extremely large property. Rather than being filled with bodies, it was filled with at least 3-4 dozen mags of the nude variety lol
I just got a service call a few days ago trying to sell me unlimited data on internet for like $60 more but the LIMITED data i have is so high per month i would probably have to delete and reinstall skyrim 500 times a month to reach that limit.
Im literally dealing with an internet outage at work, i cant do my regular job right now
Only found one stash in my entire 43 years of hiking in numerous states across the US. So I guess you can say extremely rare???