Yes and no, Hazbin is owned by a big studio but Viv herself is still a big part of the indie animation revolution and her other show, hellova boss, is still indie /nm/gen
@@StarTheThing ok yeah maybe helluva boss could still count as indie but, doesn't vivziepop have millions of dollars [ that she hasn't used to pay her employees right and instead used to buy peacocks ] including her own company now? Pretty sure the whole point of indie is that you're making something without the help of a big company or a huge amount of money not from their own efforts or fan support so calling vivziepop an indie creator now would be like calling walt disney an indie creator.
@@cyanity1017 We don't know, nobody knows in fact. Everything in regards to Viv's financial situation has been based on blind speculation and rumors; we don't know what sort of budget amazon is giving her, we don't know how that budget is being allocated, we don't know where the merch sales are, etc. Nobody actually knows anything concrete. That whole peacock thing was based off one instagram post Viv made one time YEARS ago before Hazbin even got picked up and yet you people act like she's blowing money left and right. I mean have you actually LOOKED at the payment rates for animators throughout the industry? Or compared turnover rates? Or done literally anything to prove that everything that's happening isn't a common issue across all animation studios and not just exclusive to Viv? I mean ffs, more than half of all animators working for PIXAR are let go after a year or less. And that's one of the BIGGEST animated studios of all time.
Because of this incident, Viv even decided to leave Twitter (maybe for a while), and instead of people gathering together and condemning the one who leaked the episodes, they all decided to spoil it. It's worth throwing a fragment - it will spread all over the Internet in seconds.
Helluva boss, the show they have that hasn't been picked up by a big studio, also had some large leaks of some scrapped storyboards for the recent episode, - Nothing was done about that, besides from the plot being changed (but I think it was changed before the leaks.) Hazbin got the help they needed because Amazon owns them, If anything indie animated with no company help was leaked, I feel like they'd probably never get any consequences.
This video is really well done, and the model is so pretty! I admit, I dislike Vivzieop/Vivienne as well for a lot of her actions, but the whole controversy wasn’t deserved. Especially the hate that followed on both the team and Vivienne as well, the death threats and childish comments were so immature on both Twitter and Tiktok 😔
Although im not a big fan of hazbin hotel anymore, its still wrong to straight up LEAK a whole entire episode from a series it’s absolutely insane how some fans have ZERO patience
As much as I hate Viz, helluva, and hazbin due to terrible things, the show doesn't deserved to be leaked and this causes so much issues for everyone that worked so hard.
I didn't think this was that serious! I've been seeing a lot of shorts on this topic and I am really glad that you released this video!!! Tytyty! I'm a huge fan of helluva boss and hazbin, feel like leaks stink like I get wanting to see episodes early but it's not fun to have to rewrite whole episodes, I heard a season 2 helluva boss episode got leaked and it had to have it's whole script rewritten. I love watching your videos keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!(●'◡'●)
I don't think hazbin hotel isn't indie animation anymore. Wasn't it picked up by a gigantic studio?
Yes and no, Hazbin is owned by a big studio but Viv herself is still a big part of the indie animation revolution and her other show, hellova boss, is still indie /nm/gen
@@StarTheThing ok yeah maybe helluva boss could still count as indie but, doesn't vivziepop have millions of dollars [ that she hasn't used to pay her employees right and instead used to buy peacocks ] including her own company now? Pretty sure the whole point of indie is that you're making something without the help of a big company or a huge amount of money not from their own efforts or fan support so calling vivziepop an indie creator now would be like calling walt disney an indie creator.
@@StarTheThingHellvua boss actually has a another non-indie studio working for it set in the Philippines, not sure if she’s indie still. /pos
@@Bloodclot20 ah, sorry i didn’t know that thanks for the correction! /gen
@@cyanity1017 We don't know, nobody knows in fact. Everything in regards to Viv's financial situation has been based on blind speculation and rumors; we don't know what sort of budget amazon is giving her, we don't know how that budget is being allocated, we don't know where the merch sales are, etc. Nobody actually knows anything concrete.
That whole peacock thing was based off one instagram post Viv made one time YEARS ago before Hazbin even got picked up and yet you people act like she's blowing money left and right. I mean have you actually LOOKED at the payment rates for animators throughout the industry? Or compared turnover rates? Or done literally anything to prove that everything that's happening isn't a common issue across all animation studios and not just exclusive to Viv?
I mean ffs, more than half of all animators working for PIXAR are let go after a year or less. And that's one of the BIGGEST animated studios of all time.
Because of this incident, Viv even decided to leave Twitter (maybe for a while), and instead of people gathering together and condemning the one who leaked the episodes, they all decided to spoil it. It's worth throwing a fragment - it will spread all over the Internet in seconds.
@@Frillfish What makes you happy that Vivienne was upset by this action and leaving Twitter???
@@Frillfish Wasn't it because of the leaked season spoilers that she left Twitter?
@@Frillfish I think you're confusing criticism with harassment....
Helluva boss, the show they have that hasn't been picked up by a big studio, also had some large leaks of some scrapped storyboards for the recent episode, - Nothing was done about that, besides from the plot being changed (but I think it was changed before the leaks.) Hazbin got the help they needed because Amazon owns them,
If anything indie animated with no company help was leaked, I feel like they'd probably never get any consequences.
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This video is really well done, and the model is so pretty!
I admit, I dislike Vivzieop/Vivienne as well for a lot of her actions, but the whole controversy wasn’t deserved. Especially the hate that followed on both the team and Vivienne as well, the death threats and childish comments were so immature on both Twitter and Tiktok 😔
Although im not a big fan of hazbin hotel anymore, its still wrong to straight up LEAK a whole entire episode from a series it’s absolutely insane how some fans have ZERO patience
Your model looks sooo cute and well drawn! I love it Juni!
As much as I hate Viz, helluva, and hazbin due to terrible things, the show doesn't deserved to be leaked and this causes so much issues for everyone that worked so hard.
OH MY GOD I LOVE YOUR NEW MODEL!!!
What even is the point of leaking new episodes? Oh wow, they suck just as much as the ones they already made, what a surprise.
THE MODEL IS SO CUTEE
AHH IM SO EXCITED TO SEE THE NEW MODEL
I didn't think this was that serious! I've been seeing a lot of shorts on this topic and I am really glad that you released this video!!! Tytyty! I'm a huge fan of helluva boss and hazbin, feel like leaks stink like I get wanting to see episodes early but it's not fun to have to rewrite whole episodes, I heard a season 2 helluva boss episode got leaked and it had to have it's whole script rewritten. I love watching your videos keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!(●'◡'●)
2:42 - 2:48 and Facebook too.
Also, i just subscribed to your channel.
1 LOVEEE THE NEW MODEL
2 its really shittt that ppl diecide to spoil it for others :(
WOAH YOU GOT A NEW MODEL?? ITS SO PRETTY!! (plus kind of early??)
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Your model is so sigma JUNI!!
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