@@KCkohler When they removed it, it literally left gouges in the cable, and flexed the display so much they thought it was going to break. Before they ended up being able to remove it, it became a question of if Linus was willing to break the display. That's the level of force require, with an additional person to brace it. That is hardwired by almost any standard.
@@KCkohler That's not simply "removable" as "removable" in this context would be akin to "unpluggable." In reality, what is required is "disassembly." This is further reinforced by Apple's own technical specs which reflect that the power cable "is not removable."
The funniest thing about the cable is they engineered a proprietary connector and then made the plug non user removable. This is so they can attach cords for different regions as needed at time of manufacturing. Apple understands the benefit of modular design but actively chooses not to pass those benefits on to its customers.
Its crazy that Apple had gone completely out of their way to make it needlessly complicated on EVERYONE. Even logistics-wise, instead of packing the monitor with the corresponding region power cable its shipped to, they have to solder the power cable in and hope to God they have sold enough and have enough for each region these monitors are shipped to. If something does happen to the cable, that’s one more problem for the customer service team and Apple Store staff to deal with than they have to, and it would all be easily fixed just by making the cable removable.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Cables do fail, because the get rolled over or pinched or used as a chew toy by animals. Another point Linus made is the cable it ships with is too short for many use cases and you obviously won't be able to buy a longer one if apple says it's not removable.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl This cable might: 1) Simply not be long enough for a user's setup 2) Be chewed on by a pet 3) Be an ugly black colour when the user wants a white cable to match their Apple aesthetic No matter how you look at it, there's just no excuse for this. It would be easier for Apple and better for the end user to ship a standard power cable.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl and also, sorry, but with a UK plug on it won't fit through most of the fucking circular cutouts on desks, so get te fuck with your useless hate has no merit. EVERY SINGLE MONITOR i plug in I have to thread the kettle end up through the hole first. That stupid fucking disc is also probably too big, there was nothing wrong with the magsafe connector from the iMac or a SIMPLE FUCKING KETTLE LEAD.
I love the drop in shots where numerous other staff members are disgusted with that hard-wired cable. It's such an obvious deal breaker, I have no idea how it got implemented.
So you are driven to buying a new display when it the cable breaks. To be fair though I have never broken a single power cable be it monitor or power supply or anything but that said I wonder how much of that is due to it having a detachable cable so I can keep it out of the way when I move stuff around. Obviously having it is vastly superior to not having it and no clue why they didn't go for the old macbook style magsafe connector which is by far the best power connector design ever made.
@@HimmelWeint it is stupid that it's not easier but they took it out and put it in a few times and it was fine so it's not really a big deal just unnecessarily annoying
As Linus brought up in the WAN show... engineers spent TIME to design that unremovable cable. It took MORE EFFORT to make it hardwired than it would have to go with an existing normal removable cable. These people went out of their way to give their customers the middle finger and take their money for what shouldnt even be a repair, but just a cable replacement.
@@sys-administrator Yeah and of course an expensive magsafe connector Had No way of fitting in the Budget... Im sorry im not fronting you but these kinds of decisions are ridiculously anti-consumer
@@sys-administrator As shown in the WAN show, the cord is not soldered, it is just attached with a non-user serviceable connector. I am 100% sure the same amount of time used to engineer this could have been spent to find an already tested, user-serviceable connector that would fit in.
@UCADKGdldXLC4xMkA_ipqZvg a c14 connector can fit in there, you’re talking out your ass with that comment. The display is thicker, and has ample interior space and for the price point they are selling this at they could easily afford to add a MagSafe adapter. This is just an anti consumer product plain and simple. Stop shilling for apple.
It was so simple to not have any controversy, all they had to do was to put MagSafe like in the m1 iMac, and the same arm system as in the ProDisplay XDR
The "Wow" feeling with Apple before, was, "wow, wonderful easy to use versatile tech". The "wow" then became: "wow, really expensive". Now, the "wow" feeling: "wow, frankly stupid". Sad.
Even when it was "wow. wonderful easy to use versatile tech." it was "wow, really expensive." and "wow, frankly stupid." They've never been able to resist screwing their customers.
Thank you guys! There is a HUGE issue with how this s**t has been reviewed so far - they are trying to move it as passable, which is plain ridiculous. No HDR, the most idiotic non-removable cable, unutilized chip (where is FaceID???), no variable refresh rate, moron approach towards stands and mounts and they charge 1400+ for this crap. Tech journalist must hold Apple accountable for such excuse of a product, otherwise they will keep pulling this over and over again. The audacity of them calling it 'accesible' is beyond me - it's a pure money trap for the less tech savy users. Verge gave it 6 out of 10 even though they mentioned it's old ass backlight technology - 6 out of 10 doesn't do justice for such prefatory tactics towards their consumers. To replace your cable, you will ship the whole thing to Apple Care, for which you pay of course, and not be able to use your product whole it's getting 'fixed'. There is a power cable standard for monitors that's being used for years, they didn't had to ducking reinvent the wheel, heck, use the magsafe if you wanna blood suck more cash. Apple needs to be held under the same standard, as other brands, for what they release and media should remind them that. You guys, are the single best review of this display so far and I'm 99% sure it will remain that way. Thank you Andy and all else behind camera for doing the right thing, instead of eating the rotten Apples.
Plus all of the reviewers praising it for the design should show it being used by someone who isn't the optimal height for the monitor. Put it on a good looking heavy duty VESA mount (which adds at least $75 to the total cost), to make it actually usable by people who aren't an average male, and see what that does to the overall aesthetic. Otherwise, they can review it with a stack of papers on the bottom to put it at a comfortable viewing angle, and again review it that way. Forcing users to pay a premium just to make it usable for a huge majority of the population who aren't 5'10" (178cm) should have been panned by most reviewers, but instead it's barely noted by a majority of them. Meanwhile basically every other monitor oriented towards professionals has height adjustability included because it's blatantly obvious to every manufacturer that this feature is vital to ensuring that the tall man and short woman in the office can both see the screen.
but if tech journalist do not praise everything that apple does and held them accountable for crappy and expensive products they might not get them for free next time they release hardware?
Yeah that's why I love LTT. LTT HAS the best content and doesn't not need to kiss ass to get the products. Other UA-camrs do that so they can get views cause most people think of apple as luxury and reviewers want apple stuff so they can get views
@@omyui When the first SE was launched, it shared the A9 that was used in the then-flagship 6S. When SE2 came out, it had the same A13 as the iPhone 11. So why would it be strange that the SE3 has the A15?
How can you say that when all competing monitors are made of cheap plastic? LG and others take a panel, slap some plastic bezels on it, and call it a day.
@@somebodyyoudontknow2464 We were talking about the effort put into the design, so I was talking about how it is made and what it looks like. In other words, the design. You said you switched to Android because Apple doesn't put enough effort into the design of their products, but now you tell me you don't care about design? You seem like a fanboy that wants his cake and eat it too. It's undeniable that Apple puts more effort into designing its monitors than other companies do. That's just a fact. Whether you care about that is a different thing entirely. Different people have different preferences and look for different things in a product. You might not care what it looks like, but other people, including me, do. I actually care a lot. The aesthetics of something are an important feature to me. Apple does put a lot of effort into designing their product. Otherwise
@@ThomasVanhelden My Microsoft computers are nice magnesium and aluminum, my Samsung phones are beautiful glass and metal. The products aren't made with cheap plastic. They also come with nice packaging.
Remember that Alienware monitor with Samsung QD-OLED display that blew away LTT's expectations? That display with a brand new technology costs $300 less than this thing.
@@Allan_Stone exactly. They are doing that right now. By billing it as a premium feature and putting it only in the highest end products, it's another part of the "value" that they are worth.
Like the game publishers (EA, Ubisoft, NFT gamestudios), they try to take it as far as possible without scaring the customer away. And if they backpaddle they are Apple-good guy because they _listened_ to the customer (just like the game studios!)
What really gets me is the cable isnt even hardwired, it can be pulled out and replaced. This is apple being apple thinking people are just gonna toss out a monitor that is already overpriced and buy another overpriced monitor to replace it and some will. What will happen is A. most people will avoid it or B. amazon will start offering replacement kits with tool to pull the cable out.
That proprietary cable is replacable. On the Wan show Linus saw that there is a spring mechanizm holding it plase. Then we saw pics (leaks) of apple proprietary tool to diactivate the mechanizm. They made it this way so its cheaper for them to make regional plugs but also force you to buy Apple care as only Apple is able to replace the cable.... Brutal. Just buy the LG display , f***k those bastards.
This solution is genius by Apple. They have to conform to IEC 60320 standards because of the power cable's high voltage. Manufacturers have done one of two things up until now to solve this issue: 1) Use a C13/C14 connector. 2) Creating a proprietary connector and soldering it to the display. Option 1 would mean they must make the display thicker because the C13/C14 doesn't fit in the Studio Display. Apple cares about aesthetics, so they didn't want to do this. Option 2 is not friendly to consumers because the display has to be replaced when the cable breaks. Actually, so many TV and HiFi equipment manufacturers have taken this approach for decades, and no one bats an eye. Apple did something innovative here; they came up with a 3rd option. They made the cable non-user removable to comply with IEC 60320 standards, but they can remove the cable with a special tool. This way, they can replace a broken cable for the consumer when it breaks.
Apple: "We're all about the environment" Also Apple: Building a huge corporate office, can't replace parts on your products, have to pay extra to get less, etc.
What you are searching is green washing. Apple is the best at doing that, saying they are protecting the environnement on shows but they are no better than anyone else or even actually worse
Waves magic wand and declares products obsolete/not supported. Overnight my MBP that will be $4,000 to replace became garbage for need of a battery. But they'll give me $0 on trade and save the earth.
I agree but it's not just bad, the office uses green energy, and at least they give iOS updates for a long time, a 6S from 6 years ago can still run fine on the last OS.
if you're going to put the chip from the phone into the display, why not also put the camera in there and have the worlds best webcam? We've always been told that laptop webcams are shite because theres no dedicated hardware for image processing like there is in phones. Now there can be and it still looks like a shite webcam? Whats the point
The point being, two years down the line, they'll do the exact same thing you said and charge you 2x the price. Apple can very well make a perfect monitor (well perfect for 99.9% of worlds population, but we'll always have 0.1% those kind of people who'll nitpick) with the kind of resources they have available to them, but they won't, because it's bad for business. It's just borderline unethical business practice, but they know people will still buy their $1600 e-waste.
I’ve been daily driving the LG 5K for the past few years. I was hoping for the same thing but with miniLED/ProMotion. Instead we got the same thing with a $300 markup… after 5 years. Nice.
see other reviews, the contrast is much better and it has semi HDR and the brightness is noticeable brighter. The Display doesn't rock back and forth like the LG one does either. You have to decide if the price difference matters. In the side by side comparo I saw, the Apple was significantly better and the USB-C is 10Gb vs the LG being 5Gb/s. Also, the LG showed reflections more noticeable vs the standard Apple display. The LG can be adjusted higher but the sound is also not as good.
@@batsonelectronics the non-removeable cable is the biggest reason I will not buy this. I would definitely pay 10,000$ for an Apple display with a 5000$ stand but if this bullshit is gonna be an unremovable cable. that's just awful then, even my shittest old CRT/LCD monitors have removeable ports, wtf apple
@Rob Oo It’s macOS’ scaling. It doesn’t do fractional scaling very well, because there’s no sub-pixel antialiasing (ie, ClearType on Windows). With 5K, I can just run 200%, integer scaling. If I do that with a 27” 4K display, everything is too big. I should mention that I’m actually trying a 4K screen right now (since I was so disappointed by the Studio Display) for 144Hz. It’s not _terrible_ scaling, but it’s still noticeable.
Update, My Studio Display blew up yesterday, belching smoke for 6 minutes before a final loud bang. Only lasted 18 months, very scary failure and I did get it on video. Posted pictures of the failure on my community tab and what to look out for before this failure. I can't post a video because I now have no display. Update 2. Initial Investigations are pointing at the slim internal power supply thats failed, the left hand side section when looking at the display. The staff at the Apple store have seen all my videos of the failure and they were astonished, looked over the Display with a fine tooth comb but never opened it up. They could see from the video it's a totally destroyed unit. I purchased it from Apple 18 months ago and I'm in the refund process. Sadly that refund process isn't as automatic as it should be but i'm not surprised. And what's wild is they didn't keep the very damaged Studio Display. I'm the proud owner of a bricked, burnt out Studio Display, Yay.
Apple always gives me a good feeling when they launch a new product. This time Apple made me feel AWESOME about my LG 5K Ultra-fine. Thank you Apple, I am now $3K richer cos I don’t have to buy this P.O.S.
@@retrogamepuppy1445 They looked at the page for it during Linus's rant, and it said it was not removable. And when he ripped it out anyway, that tensioner no longer worked like it was supposed to.
As a man who unboxes a ton of monitors in the course of business, I want every single monitor manufacturer to box them up like apple does. God that would be delightful.
I think they are doing these senseless downgrades intentionally to "differentiate our top range products from a lower tier one" and to "give customers a range of imaginary choices"
@@normiewhodrawsonpaper4580 really the only thing keeping Apple together is their so-called ecosystem but unless you buy every single item and I mean every single item by them and you have to use it specifically how they intended it The magic is lost because I've tried an iPhone before but if you change the keyboard it doesn't perform as smoothly as Apple's keyboard If you do customization you have to do Siri shortcuts so unless you follow their ecosystem precisely the magic is lost! I'm really hoping Microsoft makes some sort of progression with the Android app system and that Windows 11 could have enough apps so that we could have Android Messenger apps and social media apps running smoothly in Windows so that we too could have an ecosystem!
@@TheNatos Microsoft owns like 4% of Android. That's besides the point my point is I'm hoping for better integration with the Android apps in the windows store!
@@SpliffyMcYiffertons why would I want to add another device... There's already an ipad spc in the display, just get it to accept airplay streams like the Apple TV does...
It's really frustrating how it's not full screen with the iPad. You have all this computing power inside the monitor and the iPad and you get a boxed image. That's just sad.
@@ionstorm66 Which is hilarious given that 1) that's theoretically way more processing power than you need for that, and 2) it still doesn't even do a good job, it looks worse than the one built into the MacBook That's like using the coils from an electric stove to make a toaster and inexplicably ending up with a toaster that can't do bagels.
I'm pretty sure it's also used as its display engine. I'd rather manufacturers put a overly capable chip inside that'll give it a lot of headroom for future updates. Don't you hate it when you buy a common router that is powered by a processor that have just enough power to get by, and then you're stuck with only its current functionality. You get "firmware" updates mainly just for security patches but new features that might come with the firmware update are locked, because the chip is too weak.
Not only that, multiple people approved it. Somewhere down the line others had to have questioned it, and they were told no, this is what we are doing.
@2:15 , No Anthony, I used to own a bunch of CRT Monitor, all of their power cable are detachable, but most their VGA Cable are NOT. Yeah, I am that OLD
@@77dris how exactly ? cuz if it's resolution, 8k monitors do exist and by your logic are better than this. Or you could get a 4k monitor with better refresh rate, bigger size, better brightness ( and/or with real HDR or Oled panel) or that's cheaper actually. The only real "apple to apple" (pun intended) comparison is the 5 years old (November 2016) LG UltraFine 5K. And that monitor is worst yes, but a lot cheaper, especially if you need height adjustment (then with the price difference you could get a whole M1 mac in fact). I can agree that it's one of the best desgined monitors out there (but without a replacable cord), not that is just flat out "better" than other monitors. It depends on somebody's needs.
Apple continues to slap their customers in the face with pointless little problems that have been solved years ago and yet they just keep saying "yes please may I buy another".
bc loyal Apple customers usually aren't the ones to look at extensive reviews before making a purchase like this. much less do any sort of research on the competition. Besides we aren't even the target demographic for these type of products, to most buying these money is not an object
Actually this ist not new for Apple. The 24 inch monitor they had back in the day even had the display connection not removable from the Monitor. So i guess they improved.
@@KCkohler When you say remove, does it also means it becomes less effective when you replug it? Because it was definitely not design to be removed the way Linus had shown consider how much force you need to get that out.
@@KCkohler I know that, what I meant to say it is obviously is what not mean to be removed by a regular user. Which is kind of ridiculous once you see the tool for it. Even if you can remove it the cable itself is not standard thanks to their proprietary nonsense. They don't even bother to use their own magsafe, they purposely created a new connector to complicate things.
THANK YOU for resonating the frustration I have with this monitor. So many people say this is a great value at $1600 and there is no way in hell that’s true. I’m confident I could pick out a solid display, webcam, mic, and speaker setup and STILL be under the price of this overpriced ips display.
Not a 5K one. There are only two 5K monitors on the market right now, and both use the same panel. The other one costs $1299 and is in a cheap plastic case that wobbles horribly with the tiniest bump to the desk it is placed on. As a 27" 5K iMac user, I am disappointed that this did not have mini-LED (or even _any_ form of local dimming), it's just the same exact panel with a brighter backlight for nearly the starting cost of the 27" iMac. I can understand not being 120Hz ProMotion, since Thunderbolt 4 can't support 5K/120Hz. But the lack of local dimming is a big misstep IMO. When my iMac dies, will I buy this? Probably not, a nice 27" 4K monitor would be just fine, or maybe. 5K2K ultrawide. I'd rather put that extra money towards a higher-specced Mac Studio. But being one of only two 5K monitors on the market, and a rather significant step up in build quality from the $1299 one, it was priced at what Apple thought the market will bear. And I suspect it will sell just fine amongst people who are accustomed to the 5K iMacs/iMac Pros.
@@Justin.Franks Is the difference between 4k and 5k at 27'' that much? I kinda feel apple makes 5k displays because nobody else does so they can set whatever price they want.
i mean you could litterally pick up a c1 oled or the new samsung QD-OLED and have a better Display im sorry but 5k vs 4k at sub 40" only means a 6 inch difference in distance before you are able to differentiate pixels and i have trouble discerning pixels at about 30 inches on a 32" 1440p display
@@rudrasingh6354 Sure, but honestly, how many actually damage their power cable to their monitor? I would do that in a thousand years most likely. A bit annoying when moving or carrying it around maaaybe, but still, the risk of me loosing that cable if it was removable is like ten times higher than that I would damage it.
@@martinottosson6583 you would sooner lose a cable than damage it? Also why're you hailing these anti consumer practises just because you wouldn't have that issue? There are literally millions of other people who are in different scenarios. How are you able to speak for all of them?
I don’t get it. It’s twice as thick as the iMac, costs more than an iMac, and has a non user friendly power cable and mounting options. How does apple manage to make such nice products but consistently with one major incredibly stupid and deal breaking design flaw. This is honestly worse than putting the charging port on the bottom of the Magic Mouse.
It feels like this is Apple’s brand now. It looks so great but they *have* to make it inconvenient somehow, and they would do that to a component that is so simple you wanna go to whoever approved the final design and whack him/her over the head.
Customers: "Can you please give us eGPU support so we can upscale our workloads?" Apple: "I have a better idea! How about we solder two SoCs together so that it's _barely_ as good as a single dedicated GPU and then we charge you $4k for it?" Customers: "Uhhh...." Apple: "Oh, sorry my bad. If you want the version that barely breaks even against a dedicated GPU then you'll have to upgrade all the other components to the $6k version." Customers: "No, that's not what..." Apple: "And you want hard drive space, right? Enough to actually hold one of those projects that you need a bigass, top-of-the-line GPU for, right? That'll be another $1k" Customers: "Please stop." Apple: "As an added bonus, the magic mouse now comes with its own webcam, but you have to flip it upside down in order to use this wonderful new feature. Of course the price will be increased by $500 accordingly..."
@@CLOYO No, 2008-2013 Macs were not like that. There's a reason why people have kept resurrecting Macbook Pros from the era. iMacs were also really powerful and silent machines, before they got crippled by mobile chips. Then there was the non-trashcan Mac Pro, far worse value than the others but still a solid and expandable computer.
And _he knows his shit._ That's the best part - you can actually trust his opinions as having some basis and grounding in reality and first-hand expertise.
I remember the first times he hosted Techlinked; you could tell he absolutely did not want to be there but now that he's found his groove, Anthony's easily one of best LTT presenters.
I sure hope this unit doesn’t sell and they regret this item. I love my apple products but don’t just buy whatever they make. Still waiting for something to replace my all in one and this is definitely not the route I’m taking
For that price they should have made it a full M1 iMac that you can hook an external source up to. Also if you could have the iMac power cord with the ethernet adapter plugged in then it would be much more appealing as a laptop docking monitor.
There is a big issue with the display that reviews have not yet addressed. No its not the unacceptably horrendous webcam. The issue is that the monitor runs its own operating system (IOS) to manage the camera, microphone and speakers. Like any device running a consumer based operating system, it can't be run indefinitely without restarting it or you run into issues. If you don't restart your iPad or iPhone for weeks or months you will eventually experience all kind of issues. I got my studio display on March 18. yesterday my camera started acting up, then the microphone and speakers would stop working sporadically. After hours with Apple support it was determined the monitor needs to restart. BUT there is no way to do it, it has no power button and no way to actuality shut it down or reboot/restart properly. So the only way to do restart the display is to unplug it from the power source for a minute and plug it back in. We did so and its working fine again. However, doing it that way means you are crashing the build-in OS rather than properly restarting it. That of course can potentially damage the display just like crashing your computer every time you want to restart it.
A few years ago I walked into an Apple store and looked at some macbooks. An employee came to me smiling and glowing and asked me if I needed help. I asked them what processor the macbook was using (it was some Intel variant) and he looked at me like I was crazy. His answer was "I don't know but it should not matter". I'm sure that many people will buy this monitor just because it was made by Apple. It doesn't matter that there are better alternatives out there, for even less money. The moral is, don't be mindless sheep. Edit: Typos
have you seen what the M1 chips can do, though? the non-removable wire and underused chip in this display is rubbish, you're right. so buy something else that's actually value for money, like the M1 Macbook Air. they're not ALL rubbish, you just need to do some research.
@@extrasoap4881MBAs, like MBPs, is complete garbage. 1. class-action lawsuits filed every year: cracked screen 2021, green screen 2020, connectivity issues 2019, keyboard, 2018, thermal throttling 2017. 2. yesterdays hardware at tomorrows prices: no touch screen, no pen support, no 2 in 1 design, no 180 degree screen, no face recognition, no upgradabiilty, no OLED display, poor repairabiilty, etc. 3. Apple is ranked 10th out of 11 laptops makers by laptopmag and last in terms of repairability 4. no wonder MBs still have 7-8% market share post-m1 chip
Other companies: introducing QD-OLED, making 120hz OLED displays, HDR, stands don't cost as much a display Apple: 1600 for a SDR, LCD, 60 Hz panel oh and an extra 250 for an adjustable!
@@digwillhachi you can get a 32" 4k 150 Hz with 1 Ms response time and HDR 600 for a $1000 from view sonic. 600 less and a much better, bigger and faster display.
@@jamescassar5348 but it isnt much better is it. a 32 4k looks garbage next to this 5k. What's the color profiles on it? If you are doing gaming then fine but I doubt thats great for color accurate design work or you would find them in all studios which you dont.
Apple, I gotta say you knocked it out of the park with this one. Hard wiring the power cable into the monitor, why don't all monitors have this? Fantastic idea Apple, so futuristic, the design of it is just so perfect; you looked at what every other monitor has, a stupid detachable cable and you put that Apple spin on it and hard wired it into the monitor so it can never come out, not ever. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these monitors so I can give that cable a little tug and feel how secure you've made it Apple. Good job!
This is especially hard to look at because Apple had the perfect solution from the G5 iMac: standard power connector with an end on the Apple-branded cable that makes it sit perfectly flush when plugged in. It meets the branding criteria AND lets professionals use existing cables.
Anthony is one of the very few people who reviews Apple products objectively. Most people either love or hate everything they make. I really appreciate honest reviews of when they make something great and when they make something bad. Keep it up!
I watched the Apple keynote and thought hey this is something I might buy, a great quality picture with smarts built-in. Then I watched Anthony and did an about turn so cheers Anthony, you saved me a ton of money! Now I'm waiting for LG UltraFine monitors to become available again.
The hardwired cable on old CRT's made sense, because they connected directly to the computer under /next to them for power and video This? This is idiotic cost-cutting AND! if you broke the power cord on the old CRT's, you could fix it with a screwdriver set, a soldering iron and a spare power cord
@@bigbundle3223 I was going to say the same thing except that I'd add one detail: This design seems to be blatant planned obsolescence. Once this monitor is no longer on the market, anyone who damaged the cable will likely just throw out the whole display.
Well, to be fair if you break the apple cable you can also fix it. You just need a wire cutter, some cable connector (wire nut or screw terminal) and while you at it add some extra cable because this stupid thing is way too short.
@@Jehty_ I wouldn't put it past Apple to have hidden circuitry in both ends of the cable and measure the resistance. If an unauthorized bit of cable is detected then the T2 chip locks you out "for your safety."
Did you test the speakers at normal listening volume or just maxed out? I've never heard a stereo or set of speakers that sounds good at maximum volume but I've heard plenty that sound great at normal listening volumes. Jus' sayin'...
In the end, the problem is, PEOPLE STIL BUY IT. I mean come on, for 1600$ one could probably get a kickass OLED display with an adjustable stand and a removable cable. Not that either of those things should need to be mentioned as extras.
@@vitaliibraslavets yeah, and ultrawide gaming monitors are usually much more expensive than regular ones, so I think there’s no reason for sub $1k “regular” QD-OLEDs to not be relatively common in the next few months
I think the studio desktop computer is such a huge win for Apple. I love that it also functions as a multi-port dock essentially too. Great design concepts. This thing has a hardwired power cable. Thanks for helping me make the decision that I absolutely don't need this.
@@chloedegurechaff1941 Except the Pro Display XDR has a detachable power cable, and iFixit has a teardown showing the Thunderbolt Display’s power cable removed and showing a standard socket. So, no, not “always”. Furthermore, iFixit also has a copy of the Apple Technician Guide for the LED Cinema Display that shows the *monitor* power cord-not the all-in-one-cable that you hook up to a MacBook-as detachable.
@@chloedegurechaff1941 The past doesn't need to dictate the present and future. Basic things like this should be considered the norm, particularly considering the cost and ease of incorporation.
@@thetalesofdaneandco agreed. but context is need for those who like to baby whine about anything they don't like. Is it dumb, absolutely, has anyone ever complained before? Not that i've seen.
it seems so easy for apple to make a good display, I cannot think of any possible reason for them doing, or rather, not doing the stuff they did outside of pure malice, no idea how that benefits them but apple has hordes of top tier engineers and no doubt spends more money than the value of other well known companies on r&d every year it actually hurts my head. COME ON APPLE!
This monitor is apples worst product in a long time, unless they got secret software features that they’re working on and plan to release as updates, like wireless display output
In that case they would have trumpeted those features in the event. They always showcase features that are not available at launch and roll them 3-6 months after the product launch.
Did the A13 Bionic have the networking silicon for the iPhone built in? If so, yeah, they could totally push a software update that adds wireless functionality, but if not, it may not even have the hardware for it.
M1 is genuinely pretty great but they are very quickly squandering all the goodwill they built with their actually-good products. This is the Mac Pro all over again. I don't know why Apple hates professionals so much.
"😳 Buy the apple care!"...I love that he was so sincere about it. He really cares for the well being the not-so-smarties that buy this display. No judgements from him, just giving good advise.
As someone who worked in a Veterinary Medicine hospital/school and now works in a human medicine hospital, I can definitely tell you that 5K is something only people who shove Apple up their butts live and die by. Radiologists need extremely accurate, high contrast, very high resolution displays, and our go-to displays are the 4K ProArts. Occasionally someone gets a high-end Dell, but no one tries to justify the LG UltraFines, and by extension, this display. It just doesn’t have the full package at the price that the general professional needs. Prosumers can do whatever the hell they want because it’s their money and they don’t have to try and justify the purchase to claiming it’s a worthy betterment to the company and their employment.
ahh yes doctors and scientist. The most aesthically refined and educated group of people that ever lived. lolz. If you have ever looked at a scientific publication, medical document or product for even just a second you know how much aesthetically pleasing form concerns these professionals. (for those who have not: it's the most ugly non-, or badly designed stuff you will ever encounter.) So as professional as the may be in whatever they do, when I comes to appreciation of form most are not even on the level of your average toddler, let alone a prosumer. So let's stop pretending a radiologist is the end-all benchmark for all global display needs. Also: rendering crisp aliasing on a small font has more demanding pixel density requirements than a photo of organic material.
Ironic how you replied proving his theory about people that shove Apple up their butts. Also talking about vapid design (which btw hasn't changed for Apple in a good while) and doesn't debate the fact that these specs are not rounded enough for a lot of professionals. This product is simply put, bad. Medical tailored devices etc suck because those companies suck, the aesthetics of competitors in this market space is great. Insulting his profession shows a lot of insecurity on your part.
@@sullychow4123 I successfully insulted an entire profession in one go? Awesome. Actually: i know, it's a gift I had since I was little. Mind you: I only insult those who deserve it. You can call me the Robin Hood of being a dick. If you practice enough maybe you can be my little helper some day.
@@mmeerdam an “aesthetically pleasing form” doesn’t justify spending $500+ more on a monitor with a similar PPI, lower brightness, similar or worse color accuracy, no packaged hood for blocking external light from coming in when looking at x-rays, CTs and other radiographs, etc. Aesthetically-pleasing is not a feature that businesses care about, especially when you’re talking about needing to purchase four per person (two at work, two at home, typically). Function always beats form in our industry.
I really appreciate how LMG just do not pull their punches with any products, even when it’s a sponsored video. Keep giving us the good, the bad, and the ugly of the tech world. It helps us make informed choices and vote with our wallets.
I have one in the office for work, but I am having issues with USB peripherals connected via the USB-C on the back of the display dropping out all the time, I am trying to run the one-wire plug and go setup with my M1 MacBook Pro... I do not have these problems using my old Thunderbolt Display at home. So I have a small USB-C to USB-3 hub on the back, connected my wired Apple keyboard and wireless Logitech mouse via a USB dongle plugged in the keyboard, the mouse connection often drops out for like 0.5sec so when I drag and drop something it will mess up. Another annoying thing is I have wired headphones connected to the display via a USB-C to 35mm dongle, the connection will constantly drop out every 30 mins or so and switch to the monitor audio, and the headphones won't be recognized any more, I will have to unplug and plug back in for the OS to see it. The firmware is updated to the latest on both the OS and Display, and still didn't fix it just wondering if anyone else have this issue?
I haven’t watched a LTT video in a while and I have to say Anthony’s is definitely more natural on camera now than he was in the past. Happy to see him front and center
Lol. War rages. Sounds like you need a safe place away from that cruel thing reality. Perhaps if you yell up to your mom, she will fix you some hot chocolate and toast. War has never stopped raging on this sad disgusting speck of dust called earth. Perhaps you could put your mind at ease an snort some condoms and eat some tide pods.
@@Treddian tbh I never use data from my USB c phone so a magsafe style magnetic charger (the one from Mac books, not the one from iPhone) would be sufficient and it could solve the last ingress protection issue on phones since we already have e sim
@@richardm9306 My dude. It was a dumbass design choice. They chose to be upset in the same way I'd choose be upset if someone fused a dildo to my chair.
I don't really make heavy use of my home desktop. I've had an iMac for about 8 years now. I don't want to get a 24 inch new iMac. I was disappointed to find out there would be no more 27-in IMAc. So I was excited when I saw the new powerful studio desktop computer. This way I could use any monitors I wanted with it and the computer nearly functions as a multi-port dock. Sure for my usage I could probably get away with an entry level MacBook m1 air. But I always prefer the desktop over laptop and a powerful Apple PC will last me sometime. I feel like Apple designed the studio display for the folks who really wanted a 27-in iMac with the new silicon chips banking on that nostalgia. But all of the missteps and of course the price point utterly cannot justify the studio display as a purchase. It's a shame too since it was clearly designed with the studio desktop in mind. Too much $$$
apple just gives me more and more reasons to steer my customers away from them. pile this up with their not-as-advertised gpu performance, and it's a 100% no from me.
What is the benefit to buying an Apple branded monitor? Is there any at all on the MacOS side? Just seems like you could get a sleek 4K monitor with tiny bezels elsewhere and wall mount it (because VESA mounts exist 🙃) for a cleaner setup than Apple’s own monitors. Just boggles my mind as an IOS user and MBP owner how far Apple has gone done the wrong path with some of their products. This is one of those products that Steve Jobs would be rolling in their grave about.
back in the day, 2004, there was. the 30inch Cinema display was a revolution. remember, that display was the sole reason DVI-D was developed and released, to drive that massive 2560x1600 display, which is the max res of DVI-D, right out of the box, was the best thing you'll be able to get for a long long time. I think the studio display is a complete waste. the ultrafine is cheaper. and even today the 30inch cinema display rocks. thats why I have two. tho the adapters do suck.
@@safebet5841 The LG ultrafine that is based on is an option. for less. plus do you really need 5k at 27 inch? hell i'm doing 2560x1600 at 30 inch and its wonderful. Remember it's a consumer product, not a professional one.
I hear you but I question when would you ever have a Mac studio/Macbook near this monitor but then purposefully not connect or use it to instead turn the monitor by itself and use iOS for light tasks, I just don't see that ever happening tbh
Issue is that it's not touch screen and you connect your peripheral to the pc/Mac. OK you can connect them to the monitor but they would have to make something that can switch peripherals from the monitor to the connected device and they didn't
Any cord can be removable if you pull hard enough
nice
Like Sir Pterry Pratchett said, all fungi are edible…once!
It actually is removable they didn’t pull hard enough watch other videos
@@KCkohler When they removed it, it literally left gouges in the cable, and flexed the display so much they thought it was going to break. Before they ended up being able to remove it, it became a question of if Linus was willing to break the display. That's the level of force require, with an additional person to brace it. That is hardwired by almost any standard.
@@KCkohler That's not simply "removable" as "removable" in this context would be akin to "unpluggable." In reality, what is required is "disassembly." This is further reinforced by Apple's own technical specs which reflect that the power cable "is not removable."
The funniest thing about the cable is they engineered a proprietary connector and then made the plug non user removable. This is so they can attach cords for different regions as needed at time of manufacturing. Apple understands the benefit of modular design but actively chooses not to pass those benefits on to its customers.
Its crazy that Apple had gone completely out of their way to make it needlessly complicated on EVERYONE. Even logistics-wise, instead of packing the monitor with the corresponding region power cable its shipped to, they have to solder the power cable in and hope to God they have sold enough and have enough for each region these monitors are shipped to. If something does happen to the cable, that’s one more problem for the customer service team and Apple Store staff to deal with than they have to, and it would all be easily fixed just by making the cable removable.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Cables do fail, because the get rolled over or pinched or used as a chew toy by animals. Another point Linus made is the cable it ships with is too short for many use cases and you obviously won't be able to buy a longer one if apple says it's not removable.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl *Apple be like lmao
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl This cable might:
1) Simply not be long enough for a user's setup
2) Be chewed on by a pet
3) Be an ugly black colour when the user wants a white cable to match their Apple aesthetic
No matter how you look at it, there's just no excuse for this. It would be easier for Apple and better for the end user to ship a standard power cable.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl and also, sorry, but with a UK plug on it won't fit through most of the fucking circular cutouts on desks, so get te fuck with your useless hate has no merit. EVERY SINGLE MONITOR i plug in I have to thread the kettle end up through the hole first. That stupid fucking disc is also probably too big, there was nothing wrong with the magsafe connector from the iMac or a SIMPLE FUCKING KETTLE LEAD.
LMAO the hardwired cable moment on WAN show was beautiful
why
Funny you lucked out and got a scam on your comment
hi
Because Apple
" Mr crabs meme. Money!
I love the drop in shots where numerous other staff members are disgusted with that hard-wired cable. It's such an obvious deal breaker, I have no idea how it got implemented.
it is removable its really hard to but you can take it out Linus took it out on a wan show
So you are driven to buying a new display when it the cable breaks. To be fair though I have never broken a single power cable be it monitor or power supply or anything but that said I wonder how much of that is due to it having a detachable cable so I can keep it out of the way when I move stuff around. Obviously having it is vastly superior to not having it and no clue why they didn't go for the old macbook style magsafe connector which is by far the best power connector design ever made.
Courage(TM)
@@HimmelWeint it is stupid that it's not easier but they took it out and put it in a few times and it was fine so it's not really a big deal just unnecessarily annoying
@@stephensmith9951 technically it’s removable, but according to apple its not
As Linus brought up in the WAN show... engineers spent TIME to design that unremovable cable. It took MORE EFFORT to make it hardwired than it would have to go with an existing normal removable cable. These people went out of their way to give their customers the middle finger and take their money for what shouldnt even be a repair, but just a cable replacement.
@@sys-administrator Apple already had a shorter version of the C14
@@sys-administrator Yeah and of course an expensive magsafe connector Had No way of fitting in the Budget... Im sorry im not fronting you but these kinds of decisions are ridiculously anti-consumer
@@sys-administrator As shown in the WAN show, the cord is not soldered, it is just attached with a non-user serviceable connector. I am 100% sure the same amount of time used to engineer this could have been spent to find an already tested, user-serviceable connector that would fit in.
@UCADKGdldXLC4xMkA_ipqZvg a c14 connector can fit in there, you’re talking out your ass with that comment. The display is thicker, and has ample interior space and for the price point they are selling this at they could easily afford to add a MagSafe adapter. This is just an anti consumer product plain and simple. Stop shilling for apple.
why? because they can. if not the casuals, the hardcore would accept it anyway.
It was so simple to not have any controversy, all they had to do was to put MagSafe like in the m1 iMac, and the same arm system as in the ProDisplay XDR
But that would make their margins lower than 90% they can't do that
And actually using the A13 for something useful. As Anthony said, tvOS built it or at least AirPlay built in would be cool.
How do you make a display like this that connects via TB and NOT have it also offer that ethernet jack in the power brick.
@@Towelie- You’re 100% right. As it is, it’s just like the m1 iPads, completely overkill and nothing can take advantage of the hardware
Where I live I would have to ship my display away for a repair.
The "Wow" feeling with Apple before, was, "wow, wonderful easy to use versatile tech".
The "wow" then became: "wow, really expensive".
Now, the "wow" feeling: "wow, frankly stupid".
Sad.
Wow! Why are you doing this, Apple!
Wow Apple, you broke yourselves.
Nah. The laptops and iPads are still great.
Even when it was "wow. wonderful easy to use versatile tech." it was "wow, really expensive." and "wow, frankly stupid." They've never been able to resist screwing their customers.
@@rossmackerracher2459 More like "Wow Apple, I didn't know you could possibly get more up yourselves, but there you go"
When Linus pulled the cable... oddly satisfying.
what happens when u unplug it can u plug it back on?
This is why I came to the chat I want more info lol
@@AGXJDM as shown in the WAN show, yes you can
Nothing odd about it being satisfying.
It would have been more satisfying if the case didn't just flex a bit TBH.
Thank you guys! There is a HUGE issue with how this s**t has been reviewed so far - they are trying to move it as passable, which is plain ridiculous. No HDR, the most idiotic non-removable cable, unutilized chip (where is FaceID???), no variable refresh rate, moron approach towards stands and mounts and they charge 1400+ for this crap. Tech journalist must hold Apple accountable for such excuse of a product, otherwise they will keep pulling this over and over again. The audacity of them calling it 'accesible' is beyond me - it's a pure money trap for the less tech savy users. Verge gave it 6 out of 10 even though they mentioned it's old ass backlight technology - 6 out of 10 doesn't do justice for such prefatory tactics towards their consumers. To replace your cable, you will ship the whole thing to Apple Care, for which you pay of course, and not be able to use your product whole it's getting 'fixed'. There is a power cable standard for monitors that's being used for years, they didn't had to ducking reinvent the wheel, heck, use the magsafe if you wanna blood suck more cash.
Apple needs to be held under the same standard, as other brands, for what they release and media should remind them that.
You guys, are the single best review of this display so far and I'm 99% sure it will remain that way. Thank you Andy and all else behind camera for doing the right thing, instead of eating the rotten Apples.
Plus all of the reviewers praising it for the design should show it being used by someone who isn't the optimal height for the monitor. Put it on a good looking heavy duty VESA mount (which adds at least $75 to the total cost), to make it actually usable by people who aren't an average male, and see what that does to the overall aesthetic. Otherwise, they can review it with a stack of papers on the bottom to put it at a comfortable viewing angle, and again review it that way.
Forcing users to pay a premium just to make it usable for a huge majority of the population who aren't 5'10" (178cm) should have been panned by most reviewers, but instead it's barely noted by a majority of them. Meanwhile basically every other monitor oriented towards professionals has height adjustability included because it's blatantly obvious to every manufacturer that this feature is vital to ensuring that the tall man and short woman in the office can both see the screen.
Or just dont buy apple 🤧
The only reason they are driving up the prices is because they are losing loyal customer base.
Apple PR gives money and preference to the media. Not many will blow that cash cow for completely objective reviews.
but if tech journalist do not praise everything that apple does and held them accountable for crappy and expensive products they might not get them for free next time they release hardware?
Yeah that's why I love LTT. LTT HAS the best content and doesn't not need to kiss ass to get the products. Other UA-camrs do that so they can get views cause most people think of apple as luxury and reviewers want apple stuff so they can get views
I feel like this month’s event was Apple’s way of using up their leftover chips that they made too many of.
Lol
Indeed, as in how did the SE get the A15 bionic!!!
Totally seems like it
Though M1 on the iPad is not bad
@@omyui When the first SE was launched, it shared the A9 that was used in the then-flagship 6S. When SE2 came out, it had the same A13 as the iPhone 11. So why would it be strange that the SE3 has the A15?
Like how the OG HomePods have A8 chips in them.
I am starting to suspect that Apple puts more effort into designing their boxes than their products.
And that's another reason I switched to Android over apple.
How can you say that when all competing monitors are made of cheap plastic? LG and others take a panel, slap some plastic bezels on it, and call it a day.
@@ThomasVanhelden Am I supposed to care about how it's made when I could care less about what it looks like if it works just fine?
@@somebodyyoudontknow2464 We were talking about the effort put into the design, so I was talking about how it is made and what it looks like. In other words, the design.
You said you switched to Android because Apple doesn't put enough effort into the design of their products, but now you tell me you don't care about design? You seem like a fanboy that wants his cake and eat it too.
It's undeniable that Apple puts more effort into designing its monitors than other companies do. That's just a fact. Whether you care about that is a different thing entirely. Different people have different preferences and look for different things in a product. You might not care what it looks like, but other people, including me, do. I actually care a lot. The aesthetics of something are an important feature to me.
Apple does put a lot of effort into designing their product. Otherwise
@@ThomasVanhelden My Microsoft computers are nice magnesium and aluminum, my Samsung phones are beautiful glass and metal. The products aren't made with cheap plastic. They also come with nice packaging.
Remember that Alienware monitor with Samsung QD-OLED display that blew away LTT's expectations? That display with a brand new technology costs $300 less than this thing.
and had less than half ppi, no webcam no speakers and terrible artefacts in text and small objects
@@Fareoneo yeah... but atleast you can remove the cable.
@@Fareoneo You use built in webcams and speakers? Those things are terrible!
It’s a curved display which is useless outside of gaming
@@Fareoneo dumbest justification for an Apple product I've ever read.
Their MagSafe is so good it’s mind boggling as to why it’s not widely implemented.
money
@@Allan_Stone exactly. They are doing that right now. By billing it as a premium feature and putting it only in the highest end products, it's another part of the "value" that they are worth.
If I remember clearly apple has patented that!
MagSafe is low voltage, the PSU has to be external
@JAZINITY Yes. This is not a product that's as high end as a MacBook Pro, for instance. It's really weird though why the iMac has it
at this point apple is definitely taking the shit and seeing how far they can go with the prank while still convincing people to buy it
It's a prank, bruh!
Funny, I've been thinking it's all been a joke since 2012 or so.
@Tanjiro Kamado Apple is for people who don't know how to use technology.
@@jbruning1291 people who are not poor
Always seem to forget those people
Like the game publishers (EA, Ubisoft, NFT gamestudios), they try to take it as far as possible without scaring the customer away. And if they backpaddle they are Apple-good guy because they _listened_ to the customer (just like the game studios!)
What really gets me is the cable isnt even hardwired, it can be pulled out and replaced. This is apple being apple thinking people are just gonna toss out a monitor that is already overpriced and buy another overpriced monitor to replace it and some will. What will happen is A. most people will avoid it or B. amazon will start offering replacement kits with tool to pull the cable out.
"most people will avoid it" I hope so, but I don't expect it. Just look at all the bs devices people buy from apple
That proprietary cable is replacable. On the Wan show Linus saw that there is a spring mechanizm holding it plase. Then we saw pics (leaks) of apple proprietary tool to diactivate the mechanizm. They made it this way so its cheaper for them to make regional plugs but also force you to buy Apple care as only Apple is able to replace the cable.... Brutal. Just buy the LG display , f***k those bastards.
The people who buy Apple products are the type to throw away the monitor and buy a new one. Not because they are all rich but because they're stupid
This solution is genius by Apple.
They have to conform to IEC 60320 standards because of the power cable's high voltage.
Manufacturers have done one of two things up until now to solve this issue:
1) Use a C13/C14 connector.
2) Creating a proprietary connector and soldering it to the display.
Option 1 would mean they must make the display thicker because the C13/C14 doesn't fit in the Studio Display. Apple cares about aesthetics, so they didn't want to do this.
Option 2 is not friendly to consumers because the display has to be replaced when the cable breaks. Actually, so many TV and HiFi equipment manufacturers have taken this approach for decades, and no one bats an eye.
Apple did something innovative here; they came up with a 3rd option. They made the cable non-user removable to comply with IEC 60320 standards, but they can remove the cable with a special tool. This way, they can replace a broken cable for the consumer when it breaks.
@RWNTRS What are you talking about?
Apple: "We're all about the environment"
Also Apple: Building a huge corporate office, can't replace parts on your products, have to pay extra to get less, etc.
What you are searching is green washing. Apple is the best at doing that, saying they are protecting the environnement on shows but they are no better than anyone else or even actually worse
And yet idiots still buy their products
Waves magic wand and declares products obsolete/not supported. Overnight my MBP that will be $4,000 to replace became garbage for need of a battery. But they'll give me $0 on trade and save the earth.
I agree but it's not just bad, the office uses green energy, and at least they give iOS updates for a long time, a 6S from 6 years ago can still run fine on the last OS.
If you make a statement like that you can't just cherry pick, but have to do an actual LCA analysis of their whole operation.
if you're going to put the chip from the phone into the display, why not also put the camera in there and have the worlds best webcam? We've always been told that laptop webcams are shite because theres no dedicated hardware for image processing like there is in phones. Now there can be and it still looks like a shite webcam? Whats the point
The point being, two years down the line, they'll do the exact same thing you said and charge you 2x the price. Apple can very well make a perfect monitor (well perfect for 99.9% of worlds population, but we'll always have 0.1% those kind of people who'll nitpick) with the kind of resources they have available to them, but they won't, because it's bad for business. It's just borderline unethical business practice, but they know people will still buy their $1600 e-waste.
Ye
I’ve been daily driving the LG 5K for the past few years. I was hoping for the same thing but with miniLED/ProMotion. Instead we got the same thing with a $300 markup… after 5 years. Nice.
see other reviews, the contrast is much better and it has semi HDR and the brightness is noticeable brighter. The Display doesn't rock back and forth like the LG one does either. You have to decide if the price difference matters. In the side by side comparo I saw, the Apple was significantly better and the USB-C is 10Gb vs the LG being 5Gb/s. Also, the LG showed reflections more noticeable vs the standard Apple display. The LG can be adjusted higher but the sound is also not as good.
@@batsonelectronics I think Apple’s screen is worth the extra $300. I just don’t think it’s worth selling my LG and putting in $800+ out of pocket.
@@batsonelectronics the non-removeable cable is the biggest reason I will not buy this.
I would definitely pay 10,000$ for an Apple display with a 5000$ stand but if this bullshit is gonna be an unremovable cable.
that's just awful then, even my shittest old CRT/LCD monitors have removeable ports, wtf apple
@Rob Oo It’s macOS’ scaling. It doesn’t do fractional scaling very well, because there’s no sub-pixel antialiasing (ie, ClearType on Windows). With 5K, I can just run 200%, integer scaling. If I do that with a 27” 4K display, everything is too big.
I should mention that I’m actually trying a 4K screen right now (since I was so disappointed by the Studio Display) for 144Hz. It’s not _terrible_ scaling, but it’s still noticeable.
@@abubakrakram6208 wait a year 🤷🏽
Update, My Studio Display blew up yesterday, belching smoke for 6 minutes before a final loud bang. Only lasted 18 months, very scary failure and I did get it on video. Posted pictures of the failure on my community tab and what to look out for before this failure. I can't post a video because I now have no display. Update 2. Initial Investigations are pointing at the slim internal power supply thats failed, the left hand side section when looking at the display. The staff at the Apple store have seen all my videos of the failure and they were astonished, looked over the Display with a fine tooth comb but never opened it up. They could see from the video it's a totally destroyed unit. I purchased it from Apple 18 months ago and I'm in the refund process. Sadly that refund process isn't as automatic as it should be but i'm not surprised. And what's wild is they didn't keep the very damaged Studio Display. I'm the proud owner of a bricked, burnt out Studio Display, Yay.
wow. i can't believe i was thinking about buying one of these, thanks for saving me
It also has 64GB storage lol. I think they are literally just recycling iPhone 11 for this
iphone 7 :))
That would be good but then again I kinda doubt apple knows what recycling even is.
@@gandalfwiz20007 7 had a10 this has a13
@Tejas Padhye all the same to me; iPhones all do the same thing anyway, the newer ones are 0.0001 seconds faster, that's all.
@@gandalfwiz20007 nah man with my 7 being six years old now I wish it had a A13, that would make it so much faster
Apple always gives me a good feeling when they launch a new product. This time Apple made me feel AWESOME about my LG 5K Ultra-fine. Thank you Apple, I am now $3K richer cos I don’t have to buy this P.O.S.
lmao.
Thanks apple for making me switch to android, best decision ever
You're not 'richer' for spending money, or the same amount of money.
@@WellBeSerious12 I am NOT buying it, thus I am richer!
But it's Apple!!!. Can't you be at least a little bit unreasonable?
I love how everyone stopped by just to hate on apple's decision to make a HARDWIRED power cable
As you SHOULD! Hard wired power cables are the worst.
it removes. idiots at ltt and in the comments. it uses a spring tensioner
Losers
This literally angers me.
@@retrogamepuppy1445 They looked at the page for it during Linus's rant, and it said it was not removable. And when he ripped it out anyway, that tensioner no longer worked like it was supposed to.
As a man who unboxes a ton of monitors in the course of business, I want every single monitor manufacturer to box them up like apple does. God that would be delightful.
Definitely not delightful for the environment.
Then you'd be paying apple prices for everything lol
@@argeus3639 actually it's not bad, it's all cardboard with less plastic than most companies include in their packaging.
@@argeus3639 If its a well designed box people tend to keep them for storing, moving, transporting etc.
“Lg ultrafine 5k expensive edition”
-Anthony 2022
I think they are doing these senseless downgrades intentionally to "differentiate our top range products from a lower tier one" and to "give customers a range of imaginary choices"
It's like the MKBHD review of the air tags illusion of choice
What’s sad is that their customers don’t even see how much of a handicap apple products are. Apple might not even grow out of this mindset, so stupid.
@@normiewhodrawsonpaper4580 really the only thing keeping Apple together is their so-called ecosystem but unless you buy every single item and I mean every single item by them and you have to use it specifically how they intended it The magic is lost because I've tried an iPhone before but if you change the keyboard it doesn't perform as smoothly as Apple's keyboard If you do customization you have to do Siri shortcuts so unless you follow their ecosystem precisely the magic is lost! I'm really hoping Microsoft makes some sort of progression with the Android app system and that Windows 11 could have enough apps so that we could have Android Messenger apps and social media apps running smoothly in Windows so that we too could have an ecosystem!
@@matthewburno uhh.. google makes android, not microsoft
@@TheNatos Microsoft owns like 4% of Android. That's besides the point my point is I'm hoping for better integration with the Android apps in the windows store!
No Airplay? That would have been a killer feature to anyone in the ecosystem.
Just AirPlay to the Mac that's connected to the display.
Still have to buy a Chromecast. Although I don't know how to plug it into this one. Usb c is stupid for displays. Adapters adapters adapters lol
@@SpliffyMcYiffertons why would I want to add another device... There's already an ipad spc in the display, just get it to accept airplay streams like the Apple TV does...
@@SpliffyMcYiffertons So the A13 in the monitor is literally pointless and just added cost for no reason?
@@WayStedYou bragpoint
It's really frustrating how it's not full screen with the iPad. You have all this computing power inside the monitor and the iPad and you get a boxed image. That's just sad.
And its not wireless 😂👌😂
How could they put such a capable chip in this display and not even use it
It does the image and audio enhancement for the webcam
Hopefully future software updates enable more features
@@ionstorm66 Which is hilarious given that
1) that's theoretically way more processing power than you need for that, and
2) it still doesn't even do a good job, it looks worse than the one built into the MacBook
That's like using the coils from an electric stove to make a toaster and inexplicably ending up with a toaster that can't do bagels.
@@ionstorm66 Most people will not be using the webcam most of the time, The chip should have some functionality outside of that.
I'm pretty sure it's also used as its display engine. I'd rather manufacturers put a overly capable chip inside that'll give it a lot of headroom for future updates. Don't you hate it when you buy a common router that is powered by a processor that have just enough power to get by, and then you're stuck with only its current functionality. You get "firmware" updates mainly just for security patches but new features that might come with the firmware update are locked, because the chip is too weak.
Just remember that real people took their time to design this
Someone literally went "this is a good idea"
Not only that, multiple people approved it. Somewhere down the line others had to have questioned it, and they were told no, this is what we are doing.
Also real people will still buy it knowing all the issues. I'll never understand it
They missed the golden opportunity of selling separate long cable for 200$
Magic Mouse charging
Maybe I should apply this job, seem very lazy-people friendly job
Apple: Products designed to require Apple support
My first question to Apple support:. How do I remove the power cable?
And only apple support, if you are found using any form of third party support, you will be sentenced to life using only Mattel Barbie PC.
@@petrolhead0387 debatably preferable
@@petrolhead0387 And the Barbie PC was bad because...?
@@dirremoire "I am sorry but you'll have to buy a new Device. Please check out our pro xdr display"
- Apple Genius Bar
@2:15 , No Anthony, I used to own a bunch of CRT Monitor, all of their power cable are detachable, but most their VGA Cable are NOT.
Yeah, I am that OLD
me to.
So strange, you'd expect the product designed to have a great screen, great speakers, and camera would be better than the laptop; but no.
Apple really dropped the ball with this monitor, it's so over-engineered and yet it fails to deliver a great experience.
They spent most of that R&D on the non-user friendly cable unfortunately.
But it is still better than any other 4K desktop display, or windows laptop monitor, out there (with 2x the resolution).
@@77dris how exactly ? cuz if it's resolution, 8k monitors do exist and by your logic are better than this. Or you could get a 4k monitor with better refresh rate, bigger size, better brightness ( and/or with real HDR or Oled panel) or that's cheaper actually.
The only real "apple to apple" (pun intended) comparison is the 5 years old (November 2016) LG UltraFine 5K. And that monitor is worst yes, but a lot cheaper, especially if you need height adjustment (then with the price difference you could get a whole M1 mac in fact).
I can agree that it's one of the best desgined monitors out there (but without a replacable cord), not that is just flat out "better" than other monitors. It depends on somebody's needs.
The amount it bounces too thanks to the flimsy stand is so distracting
Apple continues to slap their customers in the face with pointless little problems that have been solved years ago and yet they just keep saying "yes please may I buy another".
bc loyal Apple customers usually aren't the ones to look at extensive reviews before making a purchase like this. much less do any sort of research on the competition. Besides we aren't even the target demographic for these type of products, to most buying these money is not an object
And then go around spamming comments with defensive insults for you daring to criticize anything about their Holy Apple.
Apple is a fashion brand. Fashion, almost by definition, puts form over function.
@@lord_nin0 and a fool is easily parted with their money.
@@nitePhyyre they do have good stuff and btw i hate apple with my life but we have to admit that their new macbooks with the m1 are really good
Looking forward to somebody ripping this thing open to reveal all of the extra space where the iMac was supposed to go.
This - I want to see a disassembly vid. I betcha there's an iPhone or iMac mobo in it, repurposed.
that's was also my first thought when i saw this thing. i was expecting an imac but was just a monitor...
it already has a mac inside, A13 couldve been a M1
Can't imagine being the first engineer constructing a non removable plug on a 'pro' monitor since 1980's. XD
Actually this ist not new for Apple. The 24 inch monitor they had back in the day even had the display connection not removable from the Monitor. So i guess they improved.
It is removable
@@KCkohler When you say remove, does it also means it becomes less effective when you replug it? Because it was definitely not design to be removed the way Linus had shown consider how much force you need to get that out.
@@Deliveredmean42 there is a tool to remove it just check out 9 to 5 max they said it’s easily removable with the tool
@@KCkohler I know that, what I meant to say it is obviously is what not mean to be removed by a regular user. Which is kind of ridiculous once you see the tool for it. Even if you can remove it the cable itself is not standard thanks to their proprietary nonsense. They don't even bother to use their own magsafe, they purposely created a new connector to complicate things.
THANK YOU for resonating the frustration I have with this monitor. So many people say this is a great value at $1600 and there is no way in hell that’s true. I’m confident I could pick out a solid display, webcam, mic, and speaker setup and STILL be under the price of this overpriced ips display.
Not a 5K one. There are only two 5K monitors on the market right now, and both use the same panel. The other one costs $1299 and is in a cheap plastic case that wobbles horribly with the tiniest bump to the desk it is placed on. As a 27" 5K iMac user, I am disappointed that this did not have mini-LED (or even _any_ form of local dimming), it's just the same exact panel with a brighter backlight for nearly the starting cost of the 27" iMac. I can understand not being 120Hz ProMotion, since Thunderbolt 4 can't support 5K/120Hz. But the lack of local dimming is a big misstep IMO.
When my iMac dies, will I buy this? Probably not, a nice 27" 4K monitor would be just fine, or maybe. 5K2K ultrawide. I'd rather put that extra money towards a higher-specced Mac Studio. But being one of only two 5K monitors on the market, and a rather significant step up in build quality from the $1299 one, it was priced at what Apple thought the market will bear. And I suspect it will sell just fine amongst people who are accustomed to the 5K iMacs/iMac Pros.
@@Justin.Franks Is the difference between 4k and 5k at 27'' that much? I kinda feel apple makes 5k displays because nobody else does so they can set whatever price they want.
@@dynamic283 this, not to mention 8K is also a thing now if people wanna be over the top
@@dynamic283 well this is mostly apple's fault as well, but 5k looks much better in macOS due to scaling, specially noticeable in text
i mean you could litterally pick up a c1 oled or the new samsung QD-OLED and have a better Display im sorry but 5k vs 4k at sub 40" only means a 6 inch difference in distance before you are able to differentiate pixels and i have trouble discerning pixels at about 30 inches on a 32" 1440p display
We literally need a compilation of everyone's reactions to the built in cable
I read that as "bullshit cable" and found nothing wrong with it.
Don’t get it. If you are the one in a million that damage the cable, cut it make a simple joint to a new one.
@@martinottosson6583 but the consumer shouldn't have to do that, Apple is being needlessly anti consumer with this stuff.
@@rudrasingh6354 Sure, but honestly, how many actually damage their power cable to their monitor? I would do that in a thousand years most likely. A bit annoying when moving or carrying it around maaaybe, but still, the risk of me loosing that cable if it was removable is like ten times higher than that I would damage it.
@@martinottosson6583 you would sooner lose a cable than damage it? Also why're you hailing these anti consumer practises just because you wouldn't have that issue? There are literally millions of other people who are in different scenarios. How are you able to speak for all of them?
Interesting that the picture of the monitor on the box (0:38) doesn't show the power cord.
I don’t get it. It’s twice as thick as the iMac, costs more than an iMac, and has a non user friendly power cable and mounting options. How does apple manage to make such nice products but consistently with one major incredibly stupid and deal breaking design flaw. This is honestly worse than putting the charging port on the bottom of the Magic Mouse.
Because if it was as thin as the 24" iMac, they would've had to do something that would make Tailosive throw it out of the window
Just buy another iMax at this point.
The iMac has a chin to house the speakers and computer, this doesn’t, hence thicker.
@@WhiteHawk77 this also doesnt have a full computer with fans in it
@@SylvieTheBagel not if you want a 27 inch monitor with it you can’t, they discontinued that version for now, only 24 inch available.
It feels like this is Apple’s brand now. It looks so great but they *have* to make it inconvenient somehow, and they would do that to a component that is so simple you wanna go to whoever approved the final design and whack him/her over the head.
Customers: "Can you please give us eGPU support so we can upscale our workloads?"
Apple: "I have a better idea! How about we solder two SoCs together so that it's _barely_ as good as a single dedicated GPU and then we charge you $4k for it?"
Customers: "Uhhh...."
Apple: "Oh, sorry my bad. If you want the version that barely breaks even against a dedicated GPU then you'll have to upgrade all the other components to the $6k version."
Customers: "No, that's not what..."
Apple: "And you want hard drive space, right? Enough to actually hold one of those projects that you need a bigass, top-of-the-line GPU for, right? That'll be another $1k"
Customers: "Please stop."
Apple: "As an added bonus, the magic mouse now comes with its own webcam, but you have to flip it upside down in order to use this wonderful new feature. Of course the price will be increased by $500 accordingly..."
@@pirojfmifhghek566 Mr. Crabs be running Apple
NOW? It's always been like this.
@@CLOYO omg you’re right hahaha!
@@CLOYO No, 2008-2013 Macs were not like that. There's a reason why people have kept resurrecting Macbook Pros from the era. iMacs were also really powerful and silent machines, before they got crippled by mobile chips. Then there was the non-trashcan Mac Pro, far worse value than the others but still a solid and expandable computer.
I really like Anthony as a presenter. Often just listening and not watching, good voice to listen to, and he got great charisma
Agreed
And _he knows his shit._ That's the best part - you can actually trust his opinions as having some basis and grounding in reality and first-hand expertise.
I remember the first times he hosted Techlinked; you could tell he absolutely did not want to be there but now that he's found his groove, Anthony's easily one of best LTT presenters.
Anthony is the vibe that everyone who works in IT feels after exactly 10 years in the industry.
I sure hope this unit doesn’t sell and they regret this item. I love my apple products but don’t just buy whatever they make. Still waiting for something to replace my all in one and this is definitely not the route I’m taking
For that price they should have made it a full M1 iMac that you can hook an external source up to. Also if you could have the iMac power cord with the ethernet adapter plugged in then it would be much more appealing as a laptop docking monitor.
Apple requires a dedicated proprietary tool to remove it.
It’s literally a spool that’ll yank on it and it releases some lock.
There is a big issue with the display that reviews have not yet addressed. No its not the unacceptably horrendous webcam. The issue is that the monitor runs its own operating system (IOS) to manage the camera, microphone and speakers. Like any device running a consumer based operating system, it can't be run indefinitely without restarting it or you run into issues. If you don't restart your iPad or iPhone for weeks or months you will eventually experience all kind of issues. I got my studio display on March 18. yesterday my camera started acting up, then the microphone and speakers would stop working sporadically. After hours with Apple support it was determined the monitor needs to restart. BUT there is no way to do it, it has no power button and no way to actuality shut it down or reboot/restart properly. So the only way to do restart the display is to unplug it from the power source for a minute and plug it back in. We did so and its working fine again. However, doing it that way means you are crashing the build-in OS rather than properly restarting it. That of course can potentially damage the display just like crashing your computer every time you want to restart it.
A few years ago I walked into an Apple store and looked at some macbooks. An employee came to me smiling and glowing and asked me if I needed help. I asked them what processor the macbook was using (it was some Intel variant) and he looked at me like I was crazy. His answer was "I don't know but it should not matter". I'm sure that many people will buy this monitor just because it was made by Apple. It doesn't matter that there are better alternatives out there, for even less money. The moral is, don't be mindless sheep.
Edit: Typos
have you seen what the M1 chips can do, though? the non-removable wire and underused chip in this display is rubbish, you're right. so buy something else that's actually value for money, like the M1 Macbook Air. they're not ALL rubbish, you just need to do some research.
@@extrasoap4881 You said they're not all rubbish and recommend an overpriced chromebook... yikes
@@davide4725 how is it an overpriced chromebook?
@@extrasoap4881MBAs, like MBPs, is complete garbage.
1. class-action lawsuits filed every year: cracked screen 2021, green screen 2020, connectivity issues 2019, keyboard, 2018, thermal throttling 2017.
2. yesterdays hardware at tomorrows prices: no touch screen, no pen support, no 2 in 1 design, no 180 degree screen, no face recognition, no upgradabiilty, no OLED display, poor repairabiilty, etc.
3. Apple is ranked 10th out of 11 laptops makers by laptopmag and last in terms of repairability
4. no wonder MBs still have 7-8% market share post-m1 chip
@@extrasoap4881 I guess you didn't really understand my point, which is to not be ignorant.
I wonder if the vesa variant has a removable power cable, if that has it locked in that's even more bad.
Good question! And an angled connector could be needed for flush wall mounting.
Lol peak apple
@@cpunter it turns out that one too has a fixed power cord.
@ Thanks for confirming. How could we have expected different...;-)
Other companies: introducing QD-OLED, making 120hz OLED displays, HDR, stands don't cost as much a display
Apple: 1600 for a SDR, LCD, 60 Hz panel oh and an extra 250 for an adjustable!
please point out the other 5k P3 color accurate design monitors that dont cost this much? Been looking but cant find them.
@@digwillhachi you can get a 32" 4k 150 Hz with 1 Ms response time and HDR 600 for a $1000 from view sonic. 600 less and a much better, bigger and faster display.
You can also get a 4k OLED at 120 Hz from gigabyte for 1200. Again 400 cheaper, OLED, HDR, 120 Hz. Basically future proof.
Or you can get a 5k display from LG from 5 years ago that's still cheaper but the other options are still better
@@jamescassar5348 but it isnt much better is it. a 32 4k looks garbage next to this 5k. What's the color profiles on it? If you are doing gaming then fine but I doubt thats great for color accurate design work or you would find them in all studios which you dont.
Apple, I gotta say you knocked it out of the park with this one. Hard wiring the power cable into the monitor, why don't all monitors have this? Fantastic idea Apple, so futuristic, the design of it is just so perfect; you looked at what every other monitor has, a stupid detachable cable and you put that Apple spin on it and hard wired it into the monitor so it can never come out, not ever. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these monitors so I can give that cable a little tug and feel how secure you've made it Apple. Good job!
This is especially hard to look at because Apple had the perfect solution from the G5 iMac: standard power connector with an end on the Apple-branded cable that makes it sit perfectly flush when plugged in. It meets the branding criteria AND lets professionals use existing cables.
Anthony is one of the very few people who reviews Apple products objectively. Most people either love or hate everything they make. I really appreciate honest reviews of when they make something great and when they make something bad. Keep it up!
More of a troll than being objective.
then you need to watch mac address
This was, obviously, supposed to be the redesigned 27" iMac. Apple must've changed direction halfway through designing this thing.
I think sort of standalone appletv / FaceTime device failed there, or coming later.
What is the purpose of a hardwired cable???
"LG UltraFine 5K expensive edition"
I fell down laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I watched the Apple keynote and thought hey this is something I might buy, a great quality picture with smarts built-in. Then I watched Anthony and did an about turn so cheers Anthony, you saved me a ton of money! Now I'm waiting for LG UltraFine monitors to become available again.
The hardwired cable on old CRT's made sense, because they connected directly to the computer under /next to them for power and video
This? This is idiotic cost-cutting
AND! if you broke the power cord on the old CRT's, you could fix it with a screwdriver set, a soldering iron and a spare power cord
its not even cost cutting, this was more expensive and difficult than just using the existing parts and designs
@@bigbundle3223 I was going to say the same thing except that I'd add one detail: This design seems to be blatant planned obsolescence. Once this monitor is no longer on the market, anyone who damaged the cable will likely just throw out the whole display.
Well, to be fair if you break the apple cable you can also fix it.
You just need a wire cutter, some cable connector (wire nut or screw terminal) and while you at it add some extra cable because this stupid thing is way too short.
@@Jehty_ I wouldn't put it past Apple to have hidden circuitry in both ends of the cable and measure the resistance. If an unauthorized bit of cable is detected then the T2 chip locks you out "for your safety."
@@Treddian😂 yeah, that would seem like an apple thing to do.
Did you test the speakers at normal listening volume or just maxed out? I've never heard a stereo or set of speakers that sounds good at maximum volume but I've heard plenty that sound great at normal listening volumes. Jus' sayin'...
In the end, the problem is, PEOPLE STIL BUY IT. I mean come on, for 1600$ one could probably get a kickass OLED display with an adjustable stand and a removable cable. Not that either of those things should need to be mentioned as extras.
Give it a year or two and $1600 will probably get you a near perfect QD-OLED
@@palibakufun I mean, the new Alienware QD-OLED is actually $1300 right now
@@luca_sbll it's curved gaming monitor, most non gamers don't like curved displays.
@@vitaliibraslavets yeah, and ultrawide gaming monitors are usually much more expensive than regular ones, so I think there’s no reason for sub $1k “regular” QD-OLEDs to not be relatively common in the next few months
I think the studio desktop computer is such a huge win for Apple. I love that it also functions as a multi-port dock essentially too. Great design concepts. This thing has a hardwired power cable. Thanks for helping me make the decision that I absolutely don't need this.
So it’s a mega iPad? What a dumb idea. Why would you chose this over an iMac?
You wouldn't...It's a monitor. Yes it has a chip in it but it doesn't officially run any OS standalone
@@Scarbuckks only works well on Macs so no point
@@brandon_nope Wow it's almost like millions upon millions of people have Macs
@@Scarbuckks it runs the same iOS 15.4 as current iPhones, 64gb of storage too
@@Scarbuckks And very few would pay $1,599 for an iMac display
I find it hilarious how the box shows no cable in the back of the monitor, almost as if Apple wanted to piss people off but hide it before purchase
Fun fact, Linus did remove the cable, and nearly cracked the display in the process
That's in the video.
we all watched the same video
I'm waiting for Apple Explained to make a video about why Apple's decision to hardwire the power cable is very much justified and necessary
Simple. they have always done it, and no one ever complained before. Hell my Cinema displays have hardwired dvi-d, power, usb, and firewire.
He will find a lame excuse for Apple just like he does with every horrible feature
@@chloedegurechaff1941 Except the Pro Display XDR has a detachable power cable, and iFixit has a teardown showing the Thunderbolt Display’s power cable removed and showing a standard socket. So, no, not “always”. Furthermore, iFixit also has a copy of the Apple Technician Guide for the LED Cinema Display that shows the *monitor* power cord-not the all-in-one-cable that you hook up to a MacBook-as detachable.
@@chloedegurechaff1941 The past doesn't need to dictate the present and future. Basic things like this should be considered the norm, particularly considering the cost and ease of incorporation.
@@thetalesofdaneandco agreed. but context is need for those who like to baby whine about anything they don't like.
Is it dumb, absolutely, has anyone ever complained before? Not that i've seen.
it seems so easy for apple to make a good display, I cannot think of any possible reason for them doing, or rather, not doing the stuff they did outside of pure malice, no idea how that benefits them but apple has hordes of top tier engineers and no doubt spends more money than the value of other well known companies on r&d every year it actually hurts my head. COME ON APPLE!
"consumption junction, whats your dysfunction?" Older internet user will understand this
This monitor is apples worst product in a long time, unless they got secret software features that they’re working on and plan to release as updates, like wireless display output
In that case they would have trumpeted those features in the event. They always showcase features that are not available at launch and roll them 3-6 months after the product launch.
hehe sudden become apple tv hahaha .
Did the A13 Bionic have the networking silicon for the iPhone built in? If so, yeah, they could totally push a software update that adds wireless functionality, but if not, it may not even have the hardware for it.
It’s got 64gb of storage built in so maybe. Lol.
The packaging is the most innovative thing Apple has made since the first iPhone.
That's the only thing innovative, the product? not so much :))
Bruh what about the M1 chip
M1 is genuinely pretty great but they are very quickly squandering all the goodwill they built with their actually-good products. This is the Mac Pro all over again. I don't know why Apple hates professionals so much.
@@ashwinalagiri-rajan1180 Calling the M1 innovative on the scale of the iPhone would be a massive overstep.
They probably marked it up $200 just for the box.
If I had bought one and found that it didn’t reach with that short hard-wired cable, I’d feel like Apple just spat in my coffee while I watched.
9:10 Well, the framerate on the Studio Display's webcam was *visibly* not up to snuff...
Very curious for a side by side comparison to the LG.
“Buy the AppleCare” was the line where beer shot out my nose. Thanks for that. 😆
"😳 Buy the apple care!"...I love that he was so sincere about it. He really cares for the well being the not-so-smarties that buy this display. No judgements from him, just giving good advise.
Apple's original Cinema displays and Thunderbolt display didn't have detachable cables either.
As someone who worked in a Veterinary Medicine hospital/school and now works in a human medicine hospital, I can definitely tell you that 5K is something only people who shove Apple up their butts live and die by. Radiologists need extremely accurate, high contrast, very high resolution displays, and our go-to displays are the 4K ProArts. Occasionally someone gets a high-end Dell, but no one tries to justify the LG UltraFines, and by extension, this display. It just doesn’t have the full package at the price that the general professional needs. Prosumers can do whatever the hell they want because it’s their money and they don’t have to try and justify the purchase to claiming it’s a worthy betterment to the company and their employment.
An agreeable and well made point. 👍
ahh yes doctors and scientist. The most aesthically refined and educated group of people that ever lived. lolz. If you have ever looked at a scientific publication, medical document or product for even just a second you know how much aesthetically pleasing form concerns these professionals. (for those who have not: it's the most ugly non-, or badly designed stuff you will ever encounter.) So as professional as the may be in whatever they do, when I comes to appreciation of form most are not even on the level of your average toddler, let alone a prosumer. So let's stop pretending a radiologist is the end-all benchmark for all global display needs.
Also: rendering crisp aliasing on a small font has more demanding pixel density requirements than a photo of organic material.
Ironic how you replied proving his theory about people that shove Apple up their butts. Also talking about vapid design (which btw hasn't changed for Apple in a good while) and doesn't debate the fact that these specs are not rounded enough for a lot of professionals. This product is simply put, bad. Medical tailored devices etc suck because those companies suck, the aesthetics of competitors in this market space is great. Insulting his profession shows a lot of insecurity on your part.
@@sullychow4123 I successfully insulted an entire profession in one go? Awesome. Actually: i know, it's a gift I had since I was little. Mind you: I only insult those who deserve it. You can call me the Robin Hood of being a dick. If you practice enough maybe you can be my little helper some day.
@@mmeerdam an “aesthetically pleasing form” doesn’t justify spending $500+ more on a monitor with a similar PPI, lower brightness, similar or worse color accuracy, no packaged hood for blocking external light from coming in when looking at x-rays, CTs and other radiographs, etc.
Aesthetically-pleasing is not a feature that businesses care about, especially when you’re talking about needing to purchase four per person (two at work, two at home, typically). Function always beats form in our industry.
I really appreciate how LMG just do not pull their punches with any products, even when it’s a sponsored video. Keep giving us the good, the bad, and the ugly of the tech world. It helps us make informed choices and vote with our wallets.
I agree, but Apple definitely doesn’t sponsor them.
@@dreamonline1996 yep, they buy their own stuff at retail because Apple won't sponsor them
@@StockyDT yes, apple would certainly prefer to avoid them after the Mac Pro incident.
"Excuse me, I need you to design a display in a way that hands over all business to LG and other companies in every way you can."
Apple: SAY NO MORE
I have one in the office for work, but I am having issues with USB peripherals connected via the USB-C on the back of the display dropping out all the time, I am trying to run the one-wire plug and go setup with my M1 MacBook Pro... I do not have these problems using my old Thunderbolt Display at home.
So I have a small USB-C to USB-3 hub on the back, connected my wired Apple keyboard and wireless Logitech mouse via a USB dongle plugged in the keyboard, the mouse connection often drops out for like 0.5sec so when I drag and drop something it will mess up.
Another annoying thing is I have wired headphones connected to the display via a USB-C to 35mm dongle, the connection will constantly drop out every 30 mins or so and switch to the monitor audio, and the headphones won't be recognized any more, I will have to unplug and plug back in for the OS to see it.
The firmware is updated to the latest on both the OS and Display, and still didn't fix it just wondering if anyone else have this issue?
2:11
3:23
Moments like these are cool, how company fan boys of brands want to be there and just see it too for the first time :D
I was in shock all throughout the video, but when I saw $400 just to adjust the height I lost it. This product is honestly ridiculous
Not as bad for me though as equipping it with iPhone hardware and then locking it down to be a worse camera than any iPhone sind the X
Love the Hoffmann appearance!
I haven’t watched a LTT video in a while and I have to say Anthony’s is definitely more natural on camera now than he was in the past. Happy to see him front and center
The monitor that I had 20 years ago from a "no-name company" already had a detachable power cable. Apple, what is wrong with you?
TechLinked now this, nice.
Oh, that attached cable is an absolute deal breaker! I was considering this display up until now. Bummer!
It’s removable
@@KCkohler Only once
just.. buy the lg 5k version? 300 bucks cheaper
@@KCkohler Removable in the same way I can remove the glass from an Iphone and put it back on, ruins the connection.
@@KCkohler Having watched the WAN Show, I´d say it´s "removable".
It´s definitely not trip-proof, like MagSafe!
They can sell extra long cable for 200$ or expensive adapter if this go to ebay
In a world where war rages, this man makes me laugh. Antony is one hell of a tech guy. Just love his videos.
Lol. War rages. Sounds like you need a safe place away from that cruel thing reality. Perhaps if you yell up to your mom, she will fix you some hot chocolate and toast.
War has never stopped raging on this sad disgusting speck of dust called earth.
Perhaps you could put your mind at ease an snort some condoms and eat some tide pods.
As w/ the LG Ultrafine displays, the single input is a non-starter, especially at this price. And a hard-wired power cable? Wow.
Next iPhone is going to have the charging cable hardwired into the phone to solve all the problems with lightning. Imagine all the uses.
Djisoisksks man you have made me laugh 😂
I'd be fine with a power cable that pulls out and then retracts like some of the power cables on old vacuums.
@@Treddian tbh I never use data from my USB c phone so a magsafe style magnetic charger (the one from Mac books, not the one from iPhone) would be sufficient and it could solve the last ingress protection issue on phones since we already have e sim
I love that the best thing about the monitor is that the packaging it comes in moves out of your way
It's not every time that Apple manages to upset the entire LTT crew with one product, so congrats?...
what are the other times?
They chose to be upset
@@richardm9306 My dude. It was a dumbass design choice. They chose to be upset in the same way I'd choose be upset if someone fused a dildo to my chair.
there is a special tool that can only be used in store to remove the power cable. f that.
I don't really make heavy use of my home desktop. I've had an iMac for about 8 years now. I don't want to get a 24 inch new iMac. I was disappointed to find out there would be no more 27-in IMAc. So I was excited when I saw the new powerful studio desktop computer. This way I could use any monitors I wanted with it and the computer nearly functions as a multi-port dock. Sure for my usage I could probably get away with an entry level MacBook m1 air. But I always prefer the desktop over laptop and a powerful Apple PC will last me sometime. I feel like Apple designed the studio display for the folks who really wanted a 27-in iMac with the new silicon chips banking on that nostalgia. But all of the missteps and of course the price point utterly cannot justify the studio display as a purchase. It's a shame too since it was clearly designed with the studio desktop in mind. Too much $$$
I also wish there was a new 27" Imac. The entire thing would cost around the same as this monitor alone. Unreal.
@@stevenhiner2487 I ended up going with a Mac mini m1 model and I've been more than satisfied for the usage I do.
The original Apple Cinema 23 and 30 had hardwired power AND DVI in the same cable. 24vdc and DVI - hardwired.
apple just gives me more and more reasons to steer my customers away from them. pile this up with their not-as-advertised gpu performance, and it's a 100% no from me.
What is the benefit to buying an Apple branded monitor? Is there any at all on the MacOS side? Just seems like you could get a sleek 4K monitor with tiny bezels elsewhere and wall mount it (because VESA mounts exist 🙃) for a cleaner setup than Apple’s own monitors.
Just boggles my mind as an IOS user and MBP owner how far Apple has gone done the wrong path with some of their products. This is one of those products that Steve Jobs would be rolling in their grave about.
back in the day, 2004, there was. the 30inch Cinema display was a revolution. remember, that display was the sole reason DVI-D was developed and released, to drive that massive 2560x1600 display, which is the max res of DVI-D, right out of the box, was the best thing you'll be able to get for a long long time.
I think the studio display is a complete waste. the ultrafine is cheaper. and even today the 30inch cinema display rocks. thats why I have two. tho the adapters do suck.
it's really the only 27 inch 5k monitor on the market other than the lg ultrafine which is almost as expensive, and a bit worse.
There is no other 5k display. Thats the only big difference.
The benefit is Apple will probably somehow make it incredibly frustrating to use any other monitor than theirs so you won't deal with that. Neat huh ?
@@safebet5841 The LG ultrafine that is based on is an option. for less. plus do you really need 5k at 27 inch? hell i'm doing 2560x1600 at 30 inch and its wonderful.
Remember it's a consumer product, not a professional one.
It would be so great is you could actually use iOS on this device for just "light' tasks. Then you could use the monitor without a Macbook attached.
I hear you but I question when would you ever have a Mac studio/Macbook near this monitor but then purposefully not connect or use it to instead turn the monitor by itself and use iOS for light tasks, I just don't see that ever happening tbh
@@phaldaz Fair enough. It just seems a bit of a waste. I'm sure there are some use cases that I can think of.
Issue is that it's not touch screen and you connect your peripheral to the pc/Mac. OK you can connect them to the monitor but they would have to make something that can switch peripherals from the monitor to the connected device and they didn't
@@Natsukashii1111 never thought of that 🤣
The face and tone of voice: I don’t think it will be! That was priceless!
Always loved Apple products but they give me more and more arguments not to upgrade my current products
Update: I'm on Linux now