How dumb can ron be though. First be cheap and only book 1 room. Then his escape plan is an airplane where he is tracked and can be arrested upon arrival?
Interesting video. One criticism however. If you're going to have words placed on the footage, such as when people speak, please make sure your spelling is correct. Scarred is when you've had your skin marked. Scared is when you're freaked out. Otherwise, a really good presentation. I'll sub.
I love how he was smart enough to reverse engineer a pseudo-RNG in the late 1980's, but not smart enough to devise a cashing out process or to stay in a separate hotel than his accomplice.
Those who cannot deal with the odds, should place their money into a certificate of deposit at their neighborhood bank, and not come in to steal for all the wrong rationale.
The odds aren't some giant secret. The onus is on the customer to gamble responsibly. It's not the casinos' fault that people will play shitty games like double zero roulette and progressive slots with money they can't afford to lose. Casinos offer excellent value for money for a great night out, as long as you set your bankroll and understand the most likely outcome is that you will lose.
Most of the odds really aren't that ridiculous. People just waste their time and money playing the long odds hoping to be the one person that walks away with the big prizes.
@@TILT223 I cheated the casino big time and got away with it. On my very first visit I won $500 and the casino was never able to recover that loss from me.. LoL..
So the casino had 500 slot machines process 17 Million transactions in their own favor. Oh and then they also had someone whacked or was going to testify. So if this guy is considered a cheater I don't even know what that makes the casinos as they're magnitudes worse.
Simultaneously a genius and an idiot. You could take $1000 from the casino 100 times and never raise an alarm. But take $100,000 one time and they are going to want a stool sample.
This is true but also visiting 100 times adds a lot more suspicion, it's a lot more work and a lot more opportunity for mistakes! I think the Keno element was a stretch too far. He should have just wound up the slots activity and likely would have never been caught.
The common denominator on almost all of these (initially) successful scammers is greed. I've seen it over and over and over again. It's ironic that in trying to cheat the gamble, they essentially manufacture a gambling addiction where the game they are playing uses the threat of being caught as the stake being played. They say to themselves things like, "I'll stop when I get to $100K, it's a nice round number" and suddenly they're at $120K and want to go for 250, then 500, then a mil, and so on. Just like a gambler. Hypnotized by their own success and convinced it will last forever, so they up the bet (the risk) and then lose it all.
@@TILT223 I think they should have aimed to get close to the jackpot without getting it 100% right. might have kept them a little deeper under the radar to get away with it.
@@sludge8506 So many people don't understand what a probability is that they can never understand the odds. I realized this in 2016 when a vast amount of people didn't seem to understand that Clinton being ahead in the polls meant that Trump could still win.
The shitty thing is they dont let you play schemes or count cards. In US they solved scheme play on roulette by adding 00 and all the schemes go bust. But card counters can succed just because of the greed on the side of the casinos , if they were to shuffle after just 2-3 out of 7-8 packs being played card counters would have no chance. The caveat is that shuffling takes time and casinos consider that they are losing money because people dont play when cards are being shuffled so they run it to the extreme of 6 out of 8 decks being played before reshuffle which is like a God given gift for card counters.
"To prevent foul play" yet when someone hits a jack pot they claim the game is broken and try to "refix" it. Casinos cheat on a daily basis. They all deserve to be bankrupt
@@k.chriscaldwell4141 To be fair, we screwed over native American Indians centuries ago. I think allowing them casinos is the least that we can do. To be honest, I don't think it's even close to enough. We should be constructing top-tier schools on their lands rather than casinos.
@@showwhite7320 you totally missed the point. indian casinos are self-regulating (even their own court system!) and if they decide not to pay, you have zero recourse.
@@showwhite7320They have all that gambling money. Can’t they build and staff top-tier schools themselves? They don’t want to, because they don’t care about their own people anymore than the US government cares about their own citizens today. It’s all just bread and circuses to pacify the masses, just like the time preceding the fall of the Roman Empire.
Do you really think casinos help redistribute wealth or anything of the kind? Might be true for the few individuals at the top, but it's generally the exact opposite.
As a young computer programmer in the 80's I learned there was no such thing as a random number in a computer. Ron knew that as well and had access to the data.
There has been a couple people that took advantage of that with online poker. They figured out how to know the cards of every player because it wasn’t actually random.
There's a Tom Scott video that discussesa RNG which uses a camera focused on a wall of lava lamps to generate truly random number seeds for encryption.
There was also a guy who noticed that the game show "Press Your Luck" only had 6 sequences of the "random" squares moving around after watching the show a lot. He went on as a contestant, and won over 100k, in 80s money. They were pretty sure he was up to something, but technically, he didn't cheat, he just figured out the game, so they let him keep the money.
Yeah but he was soo dumb. It wasn't a mistake. They were cheap. They didnt want to pay the $100-200 for two unrelated rooms to safeguard their $100k keno scam lmao
i think the most unfortunet part of gambling history is that we will never hear the story of the TRUELY successful schemes because they never got caught and never told their story
The TRUELY successful schemes are the ones run by the casinos and online gambling companies. To quote a movie from the era called "War Games": "The only winning move is not to play."
I played three times in my life on a slot machine when I was just 14 years old. Each time I put 5 Deutsche Mark in and I won a total of 450 DM. I decided to never play again, having forever gotten the better of gambling.
Funny. I put a $2 roll of nickels in a slot machine at an Army base in Frankfurt, Germany back in the late '80's and lost every one of them. I thought, "Well, that sucked," and I never gambled again! 😅
There are alot of bots on the internet now, your comment is like from a bot to get a reaction because it's so stupid. Nobody is forced to play at a casino. Everyone who has above 2 digits iq knows that the house has an edge over your. Hacking a casino is on very good grounds illegal. If you don't like to lose money then don't give your money to the casinos. They are not a charity wanting people to win. They want you to lose. If you are so dumb that you think you can beat the casino then that's your fault, not theirs.
@@cristofferlagergren That is NOT capitalism. Capitalism is the voluntary trade of money and goods/services of equal value. Everyone who gambles knows that casinos have a built-in edge. If everyone stopped gambling because of that, then casinos would either have to loosen up or go out of business.
Casinos aren't allowed to cheat their customers. The problem is that the US justice system generally doesn't allow individuals who run cheating companies to be held accountable. It just fines the company less than they profited. It's time CEOs found themselves in jail.
I used to know a police detective who had worked on solving big heist cases. He told me the easiest and most fun cases to solve were the ones planned by extremely intelligent people. They thought of everything right down to the last detail and then tripped up over some simple mistake and got caught. In this case the nerd should never have included a friend into his little enterprise and instead looked for a way to do it on his own. The biggest weakness is nearly always letting others into the plans.
They were caught because they were greedy and _did not_ plan every detail. If you win an impossible jackpot, you will not be immediately walking out with that cash. Winning on your first (second) bet is the Tsar Bomba of road flares. You could place (and lose) thousands of bets and still be questioned winning the jackpot.
@@jfbeam No, it wasn't greed that gave them away, or winning on the second bet, but showing the wrong emotion. The jackpot wasn't impossible in this case, as they didn't manipulate the results, only predicted it based on the previous numbers. The guy was nervous when claiming his prize, which is the real red flag. Casino staff is trained to spot suspicious behaviour, and nowadays they are even backed up by AI. They knew something was up, even if they didn't know what exactly.
@@SeedlingNL Everything about it was "off". Winning the highly improbable jackpot alone is suspect. Everything after that was a house of cards in a hurricane.
The person who cheated casino: 7 years in prison and ruined life Casino people who cheated half the US and mudred the person who they forced to rig the stuff - probably chilling in their mansions.
As a (not fully educated) physicist with some knowledge of electronics and integrated circuits, its just so dumb why a machine would generate seemingly/mathematically/virtual random numbers. Just add a geiger counter that listens to ambient nuclear radiation and get some REAL random numbers. I sat in front of a fascinating art installation for hours, that responded with the colors it displays and the sound it makes to 6 different detectors designed and tuned to look for cosmic rays. So that artwork changed the visual and audio landscape based on extraterrestrial signals specifically. In a computer, you can get better pseudo-random numbers from temperature sensors, like CPU temperature, and you can get the fan speeds from the cooling from CPU and graphics card. These vary based on temperature, air density, pressure, moisture in the air, wear of the equipment. Hall effect sensors will notice movements nearby. You can make many unbeatable pseudorandom numbers from a small input of tuly random numbers. A microphone would be the easiest unbeatable option. It picks up noise within the machine and noise from outside the machine. Turn that into a digital audio stream, which you then do not save, but digitally grab 1s and zeros out of those data packets to feed your random number generator. A casino floor is never silent to a sensitive microphone. If you pick individual ones and zeros from a live streamed audio feed noone else has access to, that gives random numbers, even if the machine records much of its own sounds.
Yes, that is all true, but keep in mind that this was in the earlier days of computer use in casinos, and they simply hadn't thought of those things yet. The folks in the C-suite trusted their geeks, and the geeks thought their methods were infallible.
except thats not true random, true random ness is not possible, and if you were a actual physicist you'd know that. so mister keyboard wanna be, stop trying to be right when you arent
@@tilled6695 -- Technically, true randomness from a computer algorithm is not possible. But we can simulate true randomness in the manner described, such that outcomes cannot be predicted ahead of time. This is sufficient.
This happened in Bally's Atlantic City. I actually started working there a month after the incident. The guy I was working with explained the whole scam to me one night. The player kept betting 10 9 spots for $2 each. He said it was just strange how the numbers were coming out and he felt something was up. He asked him for his d/l after he won and it was a Reno, NV address. Security/ Surveillance was on the phone with him and told him to just be pleasant and stall while they looked into this. The ticket should have actually paid more but there was $100,000 aggregate payout limit at the time.
This all started because the Casinos were illegally skewing the odds in their favor and refusing to payout. This is one of the major reasons I don't have any empathy for casinos.
Different situation but when I hear about a casino not paying because of a machine error I wonder what happens to all the “machine errors” where you actually won but the machine showed you losing. Where is all that money and shouldn’t it all just come out in the wash?
That money is actually given to the winners where possible, though it usually takes some tracking down. It's kept in escrow, and if after x years noone can be found, it's added back into the prize pool. You don't usually hear about them, because the winners get a little bonus if they sign an NDA.
If casino's can rig us why can't we rig them? And when I say rig I mean casino's definitely have an advantage over people and once you win... they'll put you in their system as "suspicious" or something. Greedy counts Edit: Mispelled the last word my bad
@@TILT223 personally I prefer the small channels with great content vs very large channels that post generic or useless information I’m subscribed and looking forward to your future videos 🙂
The key to winning money in casinos, never win big, that way you keep the casino and the irs out of your business. Win small, make money pay no taxes, and don't bring no attention to yourself. I wrote this comment before I watched this entire video. What mistakes did they make. Won big, gave up there personal information brought all kinds of attention to there selves.
They will find you if you win smaller over a period time too. And all the casinos cooperate. The problem is in knowing when they will catch you and stopping just before that.
@@kevinmclain6741 when they do catch you, and ask you to come back and talk with them in some room, be like "nope" and walk away. Sacrifice your "winnings" that haven't yet paid out, leave your luggage in the room, leave your car behind if its in their garage. Just go.
The IRS gets their cut no matter how little you win. There is a rather low threshold for the casino to bother notifying the IRS. (I don't know if that's still true in the electronic age.)
I love your info! One thing the C in ancient can only make one sound, it can't make a hard 'K' and also a 'Sh' sound... please day the word right, you guys are so smart.
@@vargheseb8602 if it were an AI it'd probably say the word correctly, no? Actually on second thought, it'd mess up a whole lot of words, but not that one, it's simple grammar over thought by a human mind
As a high school math teacher, I teach probability. On thing that I do during lessons is to explain to students, this is why, if you gamble, you will lose. The only winners are the owners of the game. You win some, you lose a whole lot more.
He stayed in the same hotel so he could see the keno game results on the closed circuit feed of the hotel/casino. He should have stayed in a different room under an assumed name.
The main dumb thing he did was leaving a note at the reception for Ron, to tell him what room he is staying. The whole point of renting separate rooms is to leave no clear paper trail.
@@fatroberto3012 I mean... accomplice calls you when he has the numbers, you answer your phone. Just once, right? I'm sure there are many ways it could be done without him needing to be there at all.
This channel reminds me a lot of Fern-tv, Joeseppi and pollymatter. I subbed to those guys at less than 10k, and I hope this is another unicorn. Appreciate the content, the quality is top notch! Hopefully you'll continue and get more success.
Wow, thats a seriously flattering comment. I don't think its as good as those guys myself although I hope so one day. Honoured to recieve such a comment!
Casino's will go after you if you even figure out a way to get slightly better odds. Meanwhile they can void any jackpot they want by just saying a malfunction happened, with no burden of having proof.
There's a gentleman who grew up in Vegas his dad would take him to magic shows so we learn slight of hand got a job as a blackjack dealer after getting certified to be one and had five people help him out and they successfully robbed Vegas and never got caught. Was an episode of cheating Vegas.
I wonder if the Keno number pattern actually still exists. If so, anyone could look at thousands of previous plays, enter each set of numbers into a PC and write some simple code that looks for a pattern. If that does exist, I don’t see any laws being broken to use previous plays to predict the next one.
They pulled more than 10 grand and they couldn't afford two rooms. "I'm like a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to with one once I've got it, but I just do things." -Joker
They had seperate rooms on different floors, but the rooms became tied because he left a note at the receptionist. However, this link took time to discover, which is why the MC had time to escape the hotel, but not the Las Vegas airport security.
I often wonder about lottery draws too. I mean, if i ran a lottery system, surely that system would be able to tell me which sequences of numbers we're covered least? And therefore, those would be the winning numbers, enabling me to pay out the least amount?
You'd think that the law had a provision in it, where if the witness in a criminal case suddenly ends up murdered under suspicious circumstances, then the case is automatically decided as if the dead witness's testimony were to have been accepted as truth and prevailed in the case.
Let me see here. They have a $50,000,000 building and a couple of million in equipment and some cash. Where did all that come from? Could it be that the games are rigged to take in more than they pay out! At the close of play the house always wins.
It’s very wild to me how easily I was taken by it. I do have ADHD so it’s very easy for me to relapse on these gambling apps, and the “time out” stuff is a load of crap. The fact that you, the user, are able to just turn it off or set a different limit makes it all useless. The amount of times I say, out loud, that “okay if I reach “x” number I will stop and cash it all out” or “if I lose this hand I’ll stop” and then almost immediately lose the rest of my winnings or money afterwards is scary. It’s like a parasite is making my choices for me in my own head and it sucks.
My understanding the only cheat that the casinos have not figured out how to block is the palmed $10,000 chip at the roulette table. You put down a $10 chip and a $10,000 chip under it. Placed so the cameras can’t see the $10,000 chip. When you loose you use sleight of hand to switch out the stack with two $10 chips. Do this 30 times and you are more than 50/50 that you won once. When you do you don’t touch anything. Your payout is 35 to 1 on $10,010. Of course if your sleight of hand is that good you don’t have to be cheating. You can just get a high paying job. That’s probably why the casinos has not solved this one.
Man, you'd think you'd never feel bad about someone getting caught cheating. But then you learn about this man. 😂 It's odd that he was smart enough to do ALL of that, but not bright enough to think about what happens right after the win.
The friend/accomplice was ultra stupid. He should NOT have given the hotel room information! Just give a different hotel name and room number and THEN go register a room there immediately.
The early 90's in the casinos were pretty unscrupulous. I'd get very intimidating phone calls from a $2000 marker. The very thought of cheating was foolish at the very least. Even a hot streak of horse racing was scrutinized. By big men! In my suite. I was obviously not cheating.
And more importantly, modern slot machines allow the casino to cheat in what shuold be a game of chance, by making sure the jackpot is not paid out until they have made enough money. In a noncheating game, a million-to-one jackpot would have perhaps a one-in-two-million chance of happening, regardless of when you play. When the cheat it, there is exactly zero chance for the first two million spins, so the casino is not only better of by the odds as in a fair game of fresh decks blackjack or roulette, but they have a zero chance of ever losing anything.
Remember that the casino can do whatever they like, they can change the odds at any time, have odds varuing over time to make certain they get a cartain cut and anything like that and it would not be "cheating" according to this board of casino managers and politicians whose livelyhood dpends on the casino money flowing into their county overseeing the casinos.
This video did not bear out the details that Ron had came up with. Going in there was a 1 in 4 chance of getting the right number because of the way the seed was produced. Also Ron realized that breaking the algorithms for randomness could best be done with imaging software that would plot the "random" points and then he could rotate the 3d image to view what was really going on. Brilliant solution that he came up with. Ron had equipment that most people did not have back then and he also had a position that allow him access that only a handful of people had. The foundation was of course that he was highly intelligent but forgot that everyone else may not be. Ron needed a third partner a (social engineer). There should have never been rooms rented at the Casio nor should they have used commercial travel including renting a car. Both travel separate in private vehicles. He did not need a television set up. His partner in crime could have read the numbers to himself softly while Ron monitored the audio. Ron could have then placed the numbers in his computer in the car (a desktop computer would have been fine with the proper inverter). Ron would then recite the output of the computer to his partner knowing they may have to do this several times before the win comes up. Hind sight is usually 20/20.
that's why you shouldn't trust even your best friend when you are doing something that's not completely legal and ethical. he may be your best friend but he may make dumb mistakes or choose to save his own ass by throwing you under the bus. if doing something illegal/unethical, information is in a need-to-know basis and you are the only one that needs to know.
There is an incorrect part in the video. H doesn't conclude that the rng isnt random. He already knows this. Anyone who works with computer code knows this.
I watched a guy sit at the machine next to me and it had a recent payout ticket left in it. They guy just took it and stuck it in his pocket. Within seconds security was there and took him away. It looked like a setup to catch someone taking someone else's ticket, but I couldn't prove it. Later I also sat at a machine that had a ticket still in it. I called the floor attendant and they removed it for me! Remember, casino security aren't cops, so they're not held to the same restrictive rules that cops are.
@@TILT223 this is by far not criticism… but just advice… continue the quality and the level of videos you’ve released going forward. Don’t compromise the quality for quantity. I’ve never once before found a UA-cam channel with under 1000 subs, let alone subscribed. I might be subscribed to 50 channels total. Might even be 25 or less. Keep up the quality!!
The copy of this video requires correction: if you're at a casino playing vs other people for money, and do something outside the rules, you're a cheat. If you're at a casino playing casino games for money and do something outside the rules, you're a GOAT.
I contact the manufacturer and told them how I read the machine to win .after all I am poor. It took me months to practice .I went to a club called workers club in Goulburn new South Wales. I didn't walk out a guy with a small win by picking a machine in all the machines to pay on next go with special feature to stay under the radar I walked out a wizard .
He didn't "conclude" that the "so-called" random number generator is not "entirely random"; that's actually Computer Science 101 knowledge. Computers are deterministic machines, and therefore incapable of what we call "true randomness"; all RNG codes are, in fact, more properly called Pseudo-Random Number Generators. What we call a "good random number generator" is actually a pseudo-random number generator that works "good enough" and satisfies a series of properties determined by the task at hand. What usually happens when there's a vulnerability related to random number generation in software is that the method picked to generate the random numbers is not good enough for the requirements of what the software tries to accomplish. For example, most computer languages will expose a function called random(x,y) or something similar, which generates a random number in the interval [x,y]. However, that function usually uses seemingly random, however predictable inputs to generate their numbers, like the computer's clock information, which make those numbers not good for applications like generating random cryptographic keys, so any encrypting system that does use random() will be vulnerable to attacks exploiting the random number generating seed.
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So how long did he spend in jail i bet that was unpleasant for him!
How dumb can ron be though. First be cheap and only book 1 room. Then his escape plan is an airplane where he is tracked and can be arrested upon arrival?
Interesting video. One criticism however. If you're going to have words placed on the footage, such as when people speak, please make sure your spelling is correct.
Scarred is when you've had your skin marked. Scared is when you're freaked out. Otherwise, a really good presentation. I'll sub.
If it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
Please quit saying Nevada until you learn how to pronounce it.
I love how he was smart enough to reverse engineer a pseudo-RNG in the late 1980's, but not smart enough to devise a cashing out process or to stay in a separate hotel than his accomplice.
It's often the small details that get you caught in the end...Should have stuck with his OG plan.
@@brentfarvors192 same thing happens to bank robbers they always get away at first then they get sloppy.
Greed is what got him. He should have played 6 numbers of the 8. Greed in the end always LOSES
@@jamesmathews858 It's not "impossible", but, yeah; Didn't think this one through very well...
@@dredwick It's not a fake story.
I mean, you're already on the internet. This can be looked up in seconds.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Dale_Harris
I have to chuckle when people are called “cheats” at a casino… entire buildings literally designed to take your cash with ridiculous odds.
Those who cannot deal with the odds, should place their money into a certificate of deposit at their neighborhood bank, and not come in to steal for all the wrong rationale.
The odds aren't some giant secret. The onus is on the customer to gamble responsibly. It's not the casinos' fault that people will play shitty games like double zero roulette and progressive slots with money they can't afford to lose. Casinos offer excellent value for money for a great night out, as long as you set your bankroll and understand the most likely outcome is that you will lose.
Most of the odds really aren't that ridiculous. People just waste their time and money playing the long odds hoping to be the one person that walks away with the big prizes.
wow, there are really people who defend casinos, unbelievable. scamming a casino is a feat of honor!
@@thomasyates3078 you will lose there is no responsible way of playing.
My local casino asked me why I stopped playing. I told them I suspect they were cheating.
haha, that right there is a winning comment! :D
Dang you must have lost a crapload of money for the casinos to be wondering why you weren’t playing anymore 😮😮
@@guillermoromero8041
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@@TILT223
I cheated the casino big time and got away with it.
On my very first visit I won $500 and the casino was never able to recover that loss from me.. LoL..
You are 100% right
So the casino had 500 slot machines process 17 Million transactions in their own favor. Oh and then they also had someone whacked or was going to testify. So if this guy is considered a cheater I don't even know what that makes the casinos as they're magnitudes worse.
Simultaneously a genius and an idiot. You could take $1000 from the casino 100 times and never raise an alarm. But take $100,000 one time and they are going to want a stool sample.
This is true but also visiting 100 times adds a lot more suspicion, it's a lot more work and a lot more opportunity for mistakes! I think the Keno element was a stretch too far. He should have just wound up the slots activity and likely would have never been caught.
@@TILT223 Totally agree. You also have to spread the winning around, not just one machine, and not just at one casino.
The common denominator on almost all of these (initially) successful scammers is greed. I've seen it over and over and over again. It's ironic that in trying to cheat the gamble, they essentially manufacture a gambling addiction where the game they are playing uses the threat of being caught as the stake being played.
They say to themselves things like, "I'll stop when I get to $100K, it's a nice round number" and suddenly they're at $120K and want to go for 250, then 500, then a mil, and so on. Just like a gambler. Hypnotized by their own success and convinced it will last forever, so they up the bet (the risk) and then lose it all.
Patiently and firmly tell them to feck off. You don't have to do shit for them. Give me my money. No ID. etc.
@@TILT223 I think they should have aimed to get close to the jackpot without getting it 100% right. might have kept them a little deeper under the radar to get away with it.
Casinos are disgusting.
If you can cheat them I salute you.
People who know what the exact odds are, and blame the casino for their losses are infantile…and disgusting. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦♂️
@@sludge8506 shill for the casinos bum
@@sludge8506 So many people don't understand what a probability is that they can never understand the odds. I realized this in 2016 when a vast amount of people didn't seem to understand that Clinton being ahead in the polls meant that Trump could still win.
The shitty thing is they dont let you play schemes or count cards. In US they solved scheme play on roulette by adding 00 and all the schemes go bust. But card counters can succed just because of the greed on the side of the casinos , if they were to shuffle after just 2-3 out of 7-8 packs being played card counters would have no chance. The caveat is that shuffling takes time and casinos consider that they are losing money because people dont play when cards are being shuffled so they run it to the extreme of 6 out of 8 decks being played before reshuffle which is like a God given gift for card counters.
@@undemos shuffle machines ,can't count anymore.
"To prevent foul play" yet when someone hits a jack pot they claim the game is broken and try to "refix" it. Casinos cheat on a daily basis. They all deserve to be bankrupt
Yup. NW Indiana and Indian casinos nationwide do this. Another good reason to stay out of casinos.
@@k.chriscaldwell4141 To be fair, we screwed over native American Indians centuries ago. I think allowing them casinos is the least that we can do. To be honest, I don't think it's even close to enough. We should be constructing top-tier schools on their lands rather than casinos.
@@showwhite7320 you totally missed the point. indian casinos are self-regulating (even their own court system!) and if they decide not to pay, you have zero recourse.
@@showwhite7320They have all that gambling money. Can’t they build and staff top-tier schools themselves? They don’t want to, because they don’t care about their own people anymore than the US government cares about their own citizens today. It’s all just bread and circuses to pacify the masses, just like the time preceding the fall of the Roman Empire.
Do you really think casinos help redistribute wealth or anything of the kind? Might be true for the few individuals at the top, but it's generally the exact opposite.
As a young computer programmer in the 80's I learned there was no such thing as a random number in a computer. Ron knew that as well and had access to the data.
Ziff number
There has been a couple people that took advantage of that with online poker. They figured out how to know the cards of every player because it wasn’t actually random.
There's a Tom Scott video that discussesa RNG which uses a camera focused on a wall of lava lamps to generate truly random number seeds for encryption.
Don’t they use radiation levels to randomise the numbers?
@@Arsopu they may now, which only increases the random probability massively, (to incalculable limits) but in the 1980's the didn't.
There was also a guy who noticed that the game show "Press Your Luck" only had 6 sequences of the "random" squares moving around after watching the show a lot. He went on as a contestant, and won over 100k, in 80s money. They were pretty sure he was up to something, but technically, he didn't cheat, he just figured out the game, so they let him keep the money.
There was a guy who did that to The Price Is Right, too. There are patterns in everything.
So the real criminals got away with it by killing the witness, but the guy that wanted justice ends up in prison.
The house always wins eh?
Yeah but he was soo dumb. It wasn't a mistake. They were cheap. They didnt want to pay the $100-200 for two unrelated rooms to safeguard their $100k keno scam lmao
Agreed, they've legalized theft then normalized it. What part of a humans rationale has been voided?
Ron Harris is no martyr.
@@Sc9cvsd yeah as soon as I heard they shared the same room I thought "ok, so they really aren't that smart"
i think the most unfortunet part of gambling history is that we will never hear the story of the TRUELY successful schemes because they never got caught and never told their story
I can actually think of one or two ;) stay tuned.
Yeah it's the people that actually STOP after making enough money and aren't greedy but they wouldn't do it in the first place if they could stop
The TRUELY successful schemes are the ones run by the casinos and online gambling companies. To quote a movie from the era called "War Games": "The only winning move is not to play."
I played three times in my life on a slot machine when I was just 14 years old. Each time I put 5 Deutsche Mark in and I won a total of 450 DM. I decided to never play again, having forever gotten the better of gambling.
Funny. I put a $2 roll of nickels in a slot machine at an Army base in Frankfurt, Germany back in the late '80's and lost every one of them. I thought, "Well, that sucked," and I never gambled again! 😅
How do you go to prison for "cheating" the casino... meanwhile the casino is allowed to cheat their customers????
When you steal from a casino it's a crime, when the casino steals from you it's just called business
It's called capitalism 😝
There are alot of bots on the internet now, your comment is like from a bot to get a reaction because it's so stupid. Nobody is forced to play at a casino. Everyone who has above 2 digits iq knows that the house has an edge over your. Hacking a casino is on very good grounds illegal. If you don't like to lose money then don't give your money to the casinos. They are not a charity wanting people to win. They want you to lose. If you are so dumb that you think you can beat the casino then that's your fault, not theirs.
@@cristofferlagergren That is NOT capitalism. Capitalism is the voluntary trade of money and goods/services of equal value. Everyone who gambles knows that casinos have a built-in edge. If everyone stopped gambling because of that, then casinos would either have to loosen up or go out of business.
Casinos aren't allowed to cheat their customers. The problem is that the US justice system generally doesn't allow individuals who run cheating companies to be held accountable. It just fines the company less than they profited. It's time CEOs found themselves in jail.
I used to know a police detective who had worked on solving big heist cases. He told me the easiest and most fun cases to solve were the ones planned by extremely intelligent people. They thought of everything right down to the last detail and then tripped up over some simple mistake and got caught.
In this case the nerd should never have included a friend into his little enterprise and instead looked for a way to do it on his own. The biggest weakness is nearly always letting others into the plans.
They were caught because they were greedy and _did not_ plan every detail. If you win an impossible jackpot, you will not be immediately walking out with that cash. Winning on your first (second) bet is the Tsar Bomba of road flares. You could place (and lose) thousands of bets and still be questioned winning the jackpot.
@@jfbeam No, it wasn't greed that gave them away, or winning on the second bet, but showing the wrong emotion. The jackpot wasn't impossible in this case, as they didn't manipulate the results, only predicted it based on the previous numbers.
The guy was nervous when claiming his prize, which is the real red flag. Casino staff is trained to spot suspicious behaviour, and nowadays they are even backed up by AI. They knew something was up, even if they didn't know what exactly.
@@SeedlingNL Everything about it was "off". Winning the highly improbable jackpot alone is suspect. Everything after that was a house of cards in a hurricane.
Or just gotten two hotel rooms
As someone who just came back from Vegas and makes Rust documentaries this was extremely well done. Looking forward too more of your content!
U get solid views you should upload more
The hell is a Rust documentary
@@RedTail1-1 Rust the game. Documenting its history.
Great video man, interesting stuff. Well done with the editing
Amazing quality videos for a such a shall channel. Well done, I hope the algorithm gives you some love and this blows up 👍
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This channel deserves to be and surely will be a lot bigger soon. Great content.
The person who cheated casino: 7 years in prison and ruined life
Casino people who cheated half the US and mudred the person who they forced to rig the stuff - probably chilling in their mansions.
As a (not fully educated) physicist with some knowledge of electronics and integrated circuits, its just so dumb why a machine would generate seemingly/mathematically/virtual random numbers. Just add a geiger counter that listens to ambient nuclear radiation and get some REAL random numbers. I sat in front of a fascinating art installation for hours, that responded with the colors it displays and the sound it makes to 6 different detectors designed and tuned to look for cosmic rays. So that artwork changed the visual and audio landscape based on extraterrestrial signals specifically.
In a computer, you can get better pseudo-random numbers from temperature sensors, like CPU temperature, and you can get the fan speeds from the cooling from CPU and graphics card. These vary based on temperature, air density, pressure, moisture in the air, wear of the equipment. Hall effect sensors will notice movements nearby. You can make many unbeatable pseudorandom numbers from a small input of tuly random numbers.
A microphone would be the easiest unbeatable option. It picks up noise within the machine and noise from outside the machine. Turn that into a digital audio stream, which you then do not save, but digitally grab 1s and zeros out of those data packets to feed your random number generator. A casino floor is never silent to a sensitive microphone. If you pick individual ones and zeros from a live streamed audio feed noone else has access to, that gives random numbers, even if the machine records much of its own sounds.
Yes, that is all true, but keep in mind that this was in the earlier days of computer use in casinos, and they simply hadn't thought of those things yet. The folks in the C-suite trusted their geeks, and the geeks thought their methods were infallible.
except thats not true random, true random ness is not possible, and if you were a actual physicist you'd know that. so mister keyboard wanna be, stop trying to be right when you arent
none of those are true random though, so please stop speaking on shit you don't know. wanna be ass dude
@@tilled6695 There is true randomness in quantum mechanics
@@tilled6695 -- Technically, true randomness from a computer algorithm is not possible. But we can simulate true randomness in the manner described, such that outcomes cannot be predicted ahead of time. This is sufficient.
Casinos send hitmen to people who expose them cheating, but players are supposed to just trust that it's an honest game.
This happened in Bally's Atlantic City. I actually started working there a month after the incident. The guy I was working with explained the whole scam to me one night. The player kept betting 10 9 spots for $2 each. He said it was just strange how the numbers were coming out and he felt something was up. He asked him for his d/l after he won and it was a Reno, NV address. Security/ Surveillance was on the phone with him and told him to just be pleasant and stall while they looked into this. The ticket should have actually paid more but there was $100,000 aggregate payout limit at the time.
Very interesting insight, Terry. Appreciate it! I would imagine you have lots of crazy stories to tell haha.
This all started because the Casinos were illegally skewing the odds in their favor and refusing to payout. This is one of the major reasons I don't have any empathy for casinos.
Very intriguing!....good job and nice one Caan 👍
Different situation but when I hear about a casino not paying because of a machine error I wonder what happens to all the “machine errors” where you actually won but the machine showed you losing. Where is all that money and shouldn’t it all just come out in the wash?
Kinda like how when the casino steals from you and kill the witness nothing happens, but when you steal from them the law is after you
@@caltron919 and show they steal your car and offer free buffets
@@ducknorris233it does come out in the wash. It is called money laundering.😊
@@Number6_ well played
That money is actually given to the winners where possible, though it usually takes some tracking down. It's kept in escrow, and if after x years noone can be found, it's added back into the prize pool. You don't usually hear about them, because the winners get a little bonus if they sign an NDA.
Nice little documentary. Thanks for the content. :)
If casino's can rig us why can't we rig them? And when I say rig I mean casino's definitely have an advantage over people and once you win... they'll put you in their system as "suspicious" or something.
Greedy counts
Edit: Mispelled the last word my bad
remember: when it's you against the house, the house always wins.
Great video, dude. 😮💨👍👌
They keep saying Ron Cheated, but in reality he was getting back at the real cheaters.
When a casino cheats it's business, when a player does it they call it cheating it seems...
My friend and I are half way through watching this and I paused to say this is pretty sick
Thanks for posting
Thank you, thats so kind. Really appreciate it. The channels only small, if you're up for more please do sub.
@@TILT223 personally I prefer the small channels with great content vs very large channels that post generic or useless information
I’m subscribed and looking forward to your future videos 🙂
Thanks for posting. Love this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The key to winning money in casinos, never win big, that way you keep the casino and the irs out of your business. Win small, make money pay no taxes, and don't bring no attention to yourself. I wrote this comment before I watched this entire video. What mistakes did they make. Won big, gave up there personal information brought all kinds of attention to there selves.
*their
They will find you if you win smaller over a period time too. And all the casinos cooperate. The problem is in knowing when they will catch you and stopping just before that.
@@kevinmclain6741 when they do catch you, and ask you to come back and talk with them in some room, be like "nope" and walk away. Sacrifice your "winnings" that haven't yet paid out, leave your luggage in the room, leave your car behind if its in their garage. Just go.
The IRS gets their cut no matter how little you win. There is a rather low threshold for the casino to bother notifying the IRS. (I don't know if that's still true in the electronic age.)
I love your info! One thing the C in ancient can only make one sound, it can't make a hard 'K' and also a 'Sh' sound... please day the word right, you guys are so smart.
So is this an AI voice.
@@vargheseb8602 if it were an AI it'd probably say the word correctly, no? Actually on second thought, it'd mess up a whole lot of words, but not that one, it's simple grammar over thought by a human mind
As a high school math teacher, I teach probability. On thing that I do during lessons is to explain to students, this is why, if you gamble, you will lose. The only winners are the owners of the game.
You win some, you lose a whole lot more.
Except a small percentage do win, and win pretty big...
Ron should have never stayed in the same hotel
let alone the same room
He stayed in the same hotel so he could see the keno game results on the closed circuit feed of the hotel/casino. He should have stayed in a different room under an assumed name.
The main dumb thing he did was leaving a note at the reception for Ron, to tell him what room he is staying. The whole point of renting separate rooms is to leave no clear paper trail.
@@JoebobWilley or just had his friend call him with the numbers. I imagine the window of time wasn't *that* tight.
@@jeremykothe2847 This was before mobile phones. It would look a bit suspicious to be running to a house phone every three minutes!
@@fatroberto3012 I mean... accomplice calls you when he has the numbers, you answer your phone. Just once, right? I'm sure there are many ways it could be done without him needing to be there at all.
This channel reminds me a lot of Fern-tv, Joeseppi and pollymatter. I subbed to those guys at less than 10k, and I hope this is another unicorn. Appreciate the content, the quality is top notch! Hopefully you'll continue and get more success.
Wow, thats a seriously flattering comment. I don't think its as good as those guys myself although I hope so one day. Honoured to recieve such a comment!
4:37 Larry had many scars. He was a scarred individual
This would make a great movie Caan. Really great video
There have been other documentaries about this situation.
I thought I recognised the voice so was looking for this comment!
Casino's will go after you if you even figure out a way to get slightly better odds. Meanwhile they can void any jackpot they want by just saying a malfunction happened, with no burden of having proof.
There's a gentleman who grew up in Vegas his dad would take him to magic shows so we learn slight of hand got a job as a blackjack dealer after getting certified to be one and had five people help him out and they successfully robbed Vegas and never got caught. Was an episode of cheating Vegas.
That sounds interesting, will look it up. What was the guys name?
I wonder if the Keno number pattern actually still exists. If so, anyone could look at thousands of previous plays, enter each set of numbers into a PC and write some simple code that looks for a pattern. If that does exist, I don’t see any laws being broken to use previous plays to predict the next one.
They pulled more than 10 grand and they couldn't afford two rooms.
"I'm like a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to with one once I've got it, but I just do things." -Joker
How could someone be this incredibly intelligent yet think it's a good idea to share a room with their accomplice?
They had seperate rooms on different floors, but the rooms became tied because he left a note at the receptionist. However, this link took time to discover, which is why the MC had time to escape the hotel, but not the Las Vegas airport security.
I often wonder about lottery draws too. I mean, if i ran a lottery system, surely that system would be able to tell me which sequences of numbers we're covered least? And therefore, those would be the winning numbers, enabling me to pay out the least amount?
Have you not seen one of our most recent uploads? The lottery story; given your comment, you really should.
@@TILT223 I'll check it out, thanks
You'd think that the law had a provision in it, where if the witness in a criminal case suddenly ends up murdered under suspicious circumstances, then the case is automatically decided as if the dead witness's testimony were to have been accepted as truth and prevailed in the case.
Great story
Kool new channel .
I remember this incident from years past , I just couldn't remember how they beat the keno . Ty !
Great Video --- deserves more views
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it, please don't forget to sub :)
Great video mate
Every time someone figures out a way to cheat the casino,
it's always the people who are bought in that kill it for them.
Always appear to be the weak link don't they
been watching you since your first vid... you have the consistency and quality material to be big... keep going! you got my support
I appreciate that! Kind words, crazy story too right?
Well done mate.
Let me see here. They have a $50,000,000 building and a couple of million in equipment and some cash. Where did all that come from? Could it be that the games are rigged to take in more than they pay out! At the close of play the house always wins.
They were discovered with the help of housekeeping being suspicious.
No, the casinos are actually the most notorious cheats. Regarding gambling, of course.
"Next, the unthinkable happens" ...yeah.. Pretty sure everyone expected that to happen..
Yeah, an ad right at the moment.
Great video. Sounds like Caan Berry doing the voice over?
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Oh wow thank you!
Another great video 🙏
Great video
Amazing... l watch Vegas low roller , its free, funny and he,s very entertaining.
banger after banger!
You're too kind :) thank you. You want more stories like this?
It’s very wild to me how easily I was taken by it. I do have ADHD so it’s very easy for me to relapse on these gambling apps, and the “time out” stuff is a load of crap. The fact that you, the user, are able to just turn it off or set a different limit makes it all useless. The amount of times I say, out loud, that “okay if I reach “x” number I will stop and cash it all out” or “if I lose this hand I’ll stop” and then almost immediately lose the rest of my winnings or money afterwards is scary. It’s like a parasite is making my choices for me in my own head and it sucks.
Hey matey, delete your gambling apps. If you have 100 to throw away. Buy shares in a company.
My understanding the only cheat that the casinos have not figured out how to block is the palmed $10,000 chip at the roulette table.
You put down a $10 chip and a $10,000 chip under it. Placed so the cameras can’t see the $10,000 chip. When you loose you use sleight of hand to switch out the stack with two $10 chips.
Do this 30 times and you are more than 50/50 that you won once. When you do you don’t touch anything. Your payout is 35 to 1 on $10,010.
Of course if your sleight of hand is that good you don’t have to be cheating. You can just get a high paying job. That’s probably why the casinos has not solved this one.
best docu channel on youtube!
No way!
There is no such thing as cheating a casino. It is simply putting the odds in your favor instead of theirs…
Great channel!!!
Good video but there’s a couple of mistakes in the subtitles. Giving for given and so on. Worth checking
100% I realised on this one afterwards, appologies!
Man, you'd think you'd never feel bad about someone getting caught cheating. But then you learn about this man. 😂 It's odd that he was smart enough to do ALL of that, but not bright enough to think about what happens right after the win.
Oh, so he was noticed.
Who would have thought that this title is accurate?!
The friend/accomplice was ultra stupid. He should NOT have given the hotel room information! Just give a different hotel name and room number and THEN go register a room there immediately.
The early 90's in the casinos were pretty unscrupulous. I'd get very intimidating phone calls from a $2000 marker. The very thought of cheating was foolish at the very least. Even a hot streak of horse racing was scrutinized. By big men! In my suite. I was obviously not cheating.
The only cheats allowed in Vagas are the casinos.
And more importantly, modern slot machines allow the casino to cheat in what shuold be a game of chance, by making sure the jackpot is not paid out until they have made enough money.
In a noncheating game, a million-to-one jackpot would have perhaps a one-in-two-million chance of happening, regardless of when you play. When the cheat it, there is exactly zero chance for the first two million spins, so the casino is not only better of by the odds as in a fair game of fresh decks blackjack or roulette, but they have a zero chance of ever losing anything.
Remember that the casino can do whatever they like, they can change the odds at any time, have odds varuing over time to make certain they get a cartain cut and anything like that and it would not be "cheating" according to this board of casino managers and politicians whose livelyhood dpends on the casino money flowing into their county overseeing the casinos.
His guilt at the other guy's death drove him to the Dark Side 😢
This video did not bear out the details that Ron had came up with. Going in there was a 1 in 4 chance of getting the right number because of the way the seed was produced. Also Ron realized that breaking the algorithms for randomness could best be done with imaging software that would plot the
"random" points and then he could rotate the 3d image to view what was really going on. Brilliant solution that he came up with.
Ron had equipment that most people did not have back then and he also had a position that allow him access that only a handful of people had.
The foundation was of course that he was highly intelligent but forgot that everyone else may not be. Ron needed a third partner a (social engineer).
There should have never been rooms rented at the Casio nor should they have used commercial travel including renting a car.
Both travel separate in private vehicles.
He did not need a television set up. His partner in crime could have read the numbers to himself softly while Ron monitored the audio.
Ron could have then placed the numbers in his computer in the car (a desktop computer would have been fine with the proper inverter).
Ron would then recite the output of the computer to his partner knowing they may have to do this several times before the win comes up.
Hind sight is usually 20/20.
He should never have gone. Stay safe at home and let your friend do the work.
While staying at the Excalibur in Vegas, the ice machine on our floor cheated me three nights in a row.
If it randomly provided extra ice sometimes and none others, there would have been a queue to use it in vegas.
"anonymus" is not a word.
'scared' is not written as 'scarred'. Learn English perhaps?
'off' is not written as 'of'.
'imageering' is not 'imagineering'.
I love it. I find it hilarious when someone finds a new way to cheat the house short of strong armed robbery.
that's why you shouldn't trust even your best friend when you are doing something that's not completely legal and ethical.
he may be your best friend but he may make dumb mistakes or choose to save his own ass by throwing you under the bus.
if doing something illegal/unethical, information is in a need-to-know basis and you are the only one that needs to know.
Every person on the planet (apart from the casino) is willing the to get away with it! Damn. 😂
ACE likes your videos keep em coming
There is an incorrect part in the video. H doesn't conclude that the rng isnt random. He already knows this. Anyone who works with computer code knows this.
Subscribed.
This has to be Caan Berry right?
Ban gambling. It's all cheating, which is fraud.
What about insurance and pensions? Operate the same.
@@TILT223 Yes. Also all usury
I watched a guy sit at the machine next to me and it had a recent payout ticket left in it. They guy just took it and stuck it in his pocket. Within seconds security was there and took him away. It looked like a setup to catch someone taking someone else's ticket, but I couldn't prove it. Later I also sat at a machine that had a ticket still in it. I called the floor attendant and they removed it for me! Remember, casino security aren't cops, so they're not held to the same restrictive rules that cops are.
Definately not...
Ahhhh. I was in the middle of a 12 minute mascots being menaces video when I see “TILT 22 minutes ago”.
I clicked immediately
Thank you! Appreciate the suppot. Trying my hardest to please :)
@@TILT223 this is by far not criticism… but just advice… continue the quality and the level of videos you’ve released going forward. Don’t compromise the quality for quantity. I’ve never once before found a UA-cam channel with under 1000 subs, let alone subscribed. I might be subscribed to 50 channels total. Might even be 25 or less. Keep up the quality!!
What was his mistake?
Hiring a black dude.
4:49 Good thing he didn't mess with the OTHER 195,000 slot machines in Vegas... there could have been some serious losses for patrons!
The copy of this video requires correction: if you're at a casino playing vs other people for money, and do something outside the rules, you're a cheat. If you're at a casino playing casino games for money and do something outside the rules, you're a GOAT.
2:02 On-Screen "Anonymus" (a Canadian 'Thrash Metal' band) made a call. Or perhaps it was an *anonymous* call ?
Wait, was Larry Volk scared, scarred or both? 4:36
Whoops!
Is it a crime if you steal from a criminal?
I contact the manufacturer and told them how I read the machine to win .after all I am poor. It took me months to practice .I went to a club called workers club in Goulburn new South Wales. I didn't walk out a guy with a small win by picking a machine in all the machines to pay on next go with special feature to stay under the radar I walked out a wizard .
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Really appreciate the comment, thank you.
He didn't "conclude" that the "so-called" random number generator is not "entirely random"; that's actually Computer Science 101 knowledge. Computers are deterministic machines, and therefore incapable of what we call "true randomness"; all RNG codes are, in fact, more properly called Pseudo-Random Number Generators. What we call a "good random number generator" is actually a pseudo-random number generator that works "good enough" and satisfies a series of properties determined by the task at hand.
What usually happens when there's a vulnerability related to random number generation in software is that the method picked to generate the random numbers is not good enough for the requirements of what the software tries to accomplish. For example, most computer languages will expose a function called random(x,y) or something similar, which generates a random number in the interval [x,y]. However, that function usually uses seemingly random, however predictable inputs to generate their numbers, like the computer's clock information, which make those numbers not good for applications like generating random cryptographic keys, so any encrypting system that does use random() will be vulnerable to attacks exploiting the random number generating seed.