Been a player since 2005, my cousin introduced it to me.. Basically it's what made me fall in love with the RTS genre.. The FMV cut-scenes, the shove down your throat strategy and the constant unit lost..
Dune 2 captivated me with the planet and the houses involved, just the desert with no water, the valuable spice, the giant worms, and the cruel Harkonnen building those good looking troopers graphics... plus dune 2 was my first RTS ever, so I was totally fascinated to playing a estrategic game that wasn't turn based as Civilization, dune 2 was on another level.
@@SkorvionGames which helped a genesis game called Herzog Zwei; I played this game much later, but as far as I know, dune 2 developers took inspiration of that game; it had RTS elements as well, like picking resources that increase with the game going on, building tanks with specific orders which also cost money depending on the order (standing still was 100 credits, attack the enemy base like 6500 and "guardian" order something in bewteen).
It is worth mentioning that this is a remake of Dune II, which is literally the first game ever described as an "RTS", so that explains its simplicity in gameplay and side variations. Command & Conquer was probably the first RTS that seriously played with balancing sides with very different arsenals.
Agreed. Luckily, the included variety persists as enough for a very wholesome experience. The game's popularity, still fondly held within the hearts of so many players, continues to speak for itself. :)
@@rahmspinat As I said, Dune II was literally the first game for which the words "real-time" and "strategy" were ever put together to describe a game. I don't think any game can really be pinpointed as "THE first", since genres evolve into other genres all the time.
@@bedfordshiremodeller4491Ea bought the studio and destroyed it from within. the only good thing EA did since was the cnc remaster. which was somone elses work they just rehashed and slapped theirlogo onit.
Westwood's spirit and hard work sent such games far forward in many ways. And that's something that will continue to be cherished among the C&C and connected RTS communities.
What to say about this game, it brings back many memories because it was my first game I played in my brother's computer almost 20 years ago. The music is incredible and the graphics were amazingly good for that time. I loved it and i loved planet Dune so i read all the books from Frank Herbert. It is underrated due to Star Wars but this world has my appreciation. Thank you for the video.
Very glad you found so much value within the Dune universe and have such fond memories of the game itself. We all appreciate the same Arrakis, just from different perspectives and sometimes for different reasons. Thank YOU for sharing some of your inspired thoughts and feelings with us!
This is the first video I've watched of yours and really loved the philosophical statements and questions at the end. I've spend hundreds of hours of my childhood playing this game.
Thanks for sharing that with me. I'm keeping up a theme about involving games as positive and impactful influences on players. There's a lot these experiences can teach us about ourselves.
think i was 8-9 (2009) when my father gave me this game, and it was my first "real" game. becouse it was the only game i knew about, i bet that i played it for over 3k hours. now im 21 and looking back with nostalgia. i know this game better then the back of my hands.
It's great to hear that even as late as 2009, it was one of your first big game experiences. That's an amazing thing to hear as the more time passes, the less chance someone growing up will find out about the game and actually play it enough to value what it carries. It's very cool that you had the luck of being introduced to Dune 2000 in that way. Speaking of which, you can find some links in the video description if you ever feel like starting up the game again. :)
I basically grew up in a deep Swedish forest. And was a long drive to get never games back then. I tried OpenRA a few months back, well Dune2k didn't really hold up to my nostalgia sadly (mostly because you can't build more than one unit type at the time, unlike AoE) Great game regardless, and i might go back and play the Harkonnen campaign again. Thanks for reading my story haha :)
@@fisklars3579 Thank you for sharing it, it's wonderful to read. Dune 2000 is old, yeah, but there should be ways to mod the unit production count. The modding community has done wonders in recent years so it wouldn't surprise me. In any case I'm glad you found some nostalgia and value in the video, happy to be of service! Harkonnen out!
@@SkorvionGames i finished the gruntmods solo , i have no words to describe it ,probably i'll go find someone to have fun with in custom games ( i'd love a remake tbh)
@@PokGiratinaSH Glad to hear it! The community around the game is very much alive and well, so feel free to join the video description mentioned Discord servers if you're looking for fellow fans to play with as well. As for an official remake - the odds aren't good for that happening in my eyes, given the recent standpoints of the people in charge of the franchise. Best to just focus on enjoying the many community-made updates, mods and custom campaigns that we often have in development these days (I recommend checking out the listed singleplayer focused Discord for more).
We'll always have the original, and with all the great things dedicated community modders are doing with it nowadays, there have never been easier ways to revisit the game and play it with some friends.
@@janeblogs324 You are correct in the sense that Dune 2000 is a remade Dune II, but the context of our earlier statements were aimed more towards the thought of a newer variant of Dune 2000, much like the recent C&C remasters for example. A remake of a remake, heh.
I loved this game when I got it back when I was like 12 or 13 at like Zellers or something. I remember beating or at least putting a lot of hours into it, with every faction. I loved the strategy map, it made me feel like a real Commander and I could see my supremacy unfold! Strangely I didn't enjoy C&C games and didn't end up playing RTS again until Age of Empires and then Dawn of War. Interestingly, Dawn of War also has that strategy map kinda thing. Does anyone know other games with such a campaign map?
@@JasonMcCarrell Glad to hear you enjoyed the Dune 2000 map experience! Age of Empires and Dawn of War map features give players similar commander-ey feelings, I agree. For your question, just off the top of my head, I can roughly recommend taking a look at Emperor: Battle For Dune (the sequel to Dune 2000), Divinity - Dragon Commander, Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (galactic conquest mode in classic BF2), XCOM (both newer ones), Crying Suns, FTL, and Into The Breach as having similar or otherwise engaging strategic viewpoints. While not in the exact same style as Dune 2000, all of these have some sort of commander map where you move across territories. Check them out and see if they maybe fit your taste and game preferences.
I remember this game from childhood. I had started with PS1 but it was hard as you couldn't save the game mid-mission. I was only able to complete mission 8 and 9 of the three different campaigns when I replayed this on PC years later. But really very memorable - and the game made me get into the books. The soundtrack by Frank Klepacki is ahead of its time. 9:33 in the clip is very humorous to me because I used this tactic in some missions, taking stock of the fact that turrets don't do much damage to infantry relative to vehicles, while troopers could inflict quite the damage to infrastructure, especially en masse, so would drag a bunch of troopers to take care of them with ease, and equally so even tanks and buildings. I even won Atreides mission 5 using a tonne of troopers to storm the Harkonnen base (back then, I failed I realise the smugglers base could be used to generate an MCV so ended up using troopers, though it was hard work). This trooper strategy would be less effective in missions where siege tanks featured for obvious reasons. I think Ordos mission 6 is probably my favourite - was so cool seeing the frigates arrive with the deviators and other reinforcements after defending the starport for what seemed a lifetime.
Glad you got a bit of a laugh from the Turret comedy scene! They can also be tricked a little with Engineers rushing in, so your tactics are valid in multiple ways of course. Minus artillery being present, as you said. And thanks for taking the time to write out and share so much of your memorable experiences from the game! It's heart warming to hear and really cool to know!
I'm really impressed by House Ordos. It just fits so well in the Dune universe. It's almost as if Frank Herbert himself wrote it. I think Ordos is better written than any of the new books and lore that came after Frank Herbert.
The Ordos seem like a natural addition to the conflict. Where we have the two sides everyone knows as a consistent thread to follow from the books and other Dune content, the Ordos come in as an unknown without the burden of having a feud or complex political situation around it - and that's what helps them remain interesting. They are not shackled to a predefined story at all and their loyalties and preferences pretty much only target wealth and influence by any means they can utilize effectively. As a result, they're dangerous both as allies and enemies, and you can never really get a feel for what the Ordos represent as it isn't a House in the classical sense where you have a bloodline that has somehow risen to power.
@@bedfordshiremodeller4491 If I remember correctly, House Ordos is only mentioned in a list of Houses from the old Dune Encyclopedia. Or something along those lines. Makes no practical difference however, as they exist in the game adaptations (as you said) which are their own thing, inspired by the books as well as Lynch's adaptation visually.
dune 2 was my first RTS i played , after that it was WAR2 "warcraft 2" then dune 2000 came after that it was like WOW kind of game to me, good old memories
One of my favorite games ever. I remember playing for 20 hours straight, little sleep and get back again. Have been ccompleted on hard on all of them, but hardest for me was last mission froom harkonnen
Your editing is phenomenal and the video was really interesting and had some funny parts! I have never played this game but I'm invested because your explanation and informative video.
Thank you for the sincere comment, means a lot! Although many scenes have returning players in mind, the video was edited in a way that might offer a bit of key insight for someone who has never even seen the game, so I'm glad you found it interesting enough to feel invested. Very cool to hear! :D
I remember watching my dad playing this and the following game, Emperor: Battle for Dune as a kid and then eventually playing it myself. I got used to the controls because he let me control the units at the end of missions when there were like 2 enemy buildings left and I'd play around with stuff. The Dune games are a brilliant example of old games clearly needing a rerelease with support on newer systems as well as online play. I'd buy this in a heartbeat if it appeared on Steam. I know there are a bunch of mods and whatever that do that but I'm really paranoid for viruses and such. These were my first RTS games and still among my favourites.
Thank you very much for sharing that bit of your Dune memories with us here! Always nice to hear about such experiences! I've included two specific links in the video description where you can reach the game. These are not random downloads but fully community supported (updated) game variants. Online play is a thing as well, just check OpenRA. The Dune rights holders have stated in the past that they wish for the old games to stay old, with no interest in potential rereleases (look up GOG.com's dialogue attempts if curious). Take that as you will. I would suggest joining the Dune 2000 community on Discord, also linked, for added reassurance on getting the games up and running (as that might help in your case). There have also been quite a few improvements and additions to both the classic and modernized Dune 2000 variants. Hope this helps a bit, and please enjoy the game if you decide to check it out! :D
@@SkorvionGames thanks so much. I'll check them out when I get home from holiday. Do I need the Dune 2k disc as my computer doesn't have a disc thingy.
@@TheQuackinator You should be good with the Gruntmods edition, I think. I recommend first checking that one out and fiddling with the game settings to your linking. The Discord community should be more than happy to assist you if you run into any technical issues, especially "Dune 2000 Landsraad", going by personal experience. I can help as well of course, should you pop up with any questions I might know the solutions to, so feel free to ask!
@@SkorvionGames Kinda unrelated question but did you ever play the game after 2000 called Emperor: Battle for Dune? It's my personal favourite Westwood game (2000 has a close second place) but doesn't seem very well known or at least not spoken about very often, especially compared to the other Westwood RTS games.
Sneak peek intros and demos were something many of us fondly remember from back then. Good to hear you ran into a similarly uplifting experience as well.
Small differences ammounting to a huge benefit, if you play your game well. Combat tanks are not just different in esthetics, they also behave little differently...
As stated in the video, the faction unit specifics include "less noticeable combat related differences" that favor intended gameplay advantages. One of the most evident examples would be the difference between a Trike and a Raider.
The music at the end is when you are in the zone, building, making walls, re-enforcing turrets, setting up repair and delivery order areas, defending back bases with a few air turrets scatters between buildings of Air Traps and Hi-Tech, making sure you have enough silos and harvesters and refineries to support an attack.
The soundtrack does indeed give off fitting vibes to how the game is often played and enjoyed, with the many thematic things to do and experience as you have already stated.
Same here, I didn’t have a PC back then so I able to tell my PC gamer friends that the PSX version had upgraded 3D graphics over the computer version. Had Red Alert too on PSX! Good ol days
Very well done video my friend! One of these actors is a famous actor who was in Indiana Jones and some other films I just cant remember his name! I cant believe he is in this game!
Thanks! You mean John Rhys-Davies who plays Sallah in Indiana Jones. He's the Atreides mentat in Dune 2000, Noree Moneo. Really brings that side's efforts to life in the cutscenes!
@@TheRealRetroBeard For some strange reason, I honestly haven't noticed that fact until now. Thanks so much for pointing it out - makes LOTR that much cooler!
I absolutely loved this game way back when! I played every campaign over and over. I even still have the CD on my shelf! It would be amazing if they could do a remaster of this like they did with C&C!
As far as I've read, the rights to Dune are a very touchy subject and the right holders are currently of the opinion that what is old should stay old. I've read about this via GOG.com who attempted to get the games re-released for modern system use, but were turned away with a big no. They'll probably keep trying though. It's not a remaster, but it would be something! Although we do have countless community-driven updates, mods, maps and missions to play regardless of official support, so the Westwood adaptation Dune games luckily continue to thrive.
@@SkorvionGames I heard the same thing about a remaster as well. It is possible maybe with that new Dune movie due out that they might change their minds but I doubt we'd get that remaster as well. I will continue to dream tho!
@@DarkLorde There are newer Dune games in production apparently, but that's a whole other type of player experience. Not connected to the Westwood adaptation. As for the old games getting re-released for modern systems in an official capacity, we can only hope they change their minds at some point, as you say!
Great storytelling about shared memories! Noticed you thanked Westwood, but they have long gone... did someone from the studio help you put this together?
Thank you! The special thanks is primarily just in the spirit of gratitude. I sometimes list people that have assisted in some way, but it's often more of a relevant appreciation type of mention that doesn't necessarily have to be a direct involvement in the video itself. Gratitude is an important practice and only benefits with its spread. :)
I was young when this came out and it was the first game that got me into rts.. Tbh I think if Westwood stuck with the simple build and deploy strategies they would still be relevant today.. Dune 2000 got me into rts.. And dune 2000, red alert, ra2, Yuri, emporor battle for dune was the golden times for Westwood.. Those games were and still are fun to play.. The simplicity let's me pick it up and play it to this day.. And it's pretty tough.. The graphics hold up.. And the cutscenes were always great imo.. Looking forward to dune reviving after the Timothee chalumet movie.. We should finally see dune rise to more fame
The revival of Dune in multimedia is a welcome addition, for sure. And if future potential games don't exactly turn out that well (or survive long term in this online world) we'll always have the good old Westwood games to fall back to in nostalgic enjoyment at least.
I'm saddened that I grew up with Red Alert 1 and 2, Command and Conquer and Tiberian Sun but never heard of Westwood's Dune, at least I can now try it out thanks to your links in the description, thanks.
You are very welcome, but don't be sad that you didn't experience it in the past, but remain grateful for discovering it now in the present! It's never too late to jump in and enjoy the game for what it is, and I wholeheartedly encourage you to have fun with it and experience the campaigns. You might also potentially like Emperor: Battle for Dune, the sequel that comes after Dune 2000. So please enjoy, and feel free to ask for assistance if you run into any trouble with running the game - the old Dune games are far from being forgotten and left in the sand, as the community will likely be quick to tell you, I'm sure. :)
@@SkorvionGames I'll definitely check out Emperor Battle for Dune, I've seen the gameplay and it made me feel like I was seeing Alpha Red Alert 3, especially that intro. Appreciation to the community for keeping these games intact to enjoy!!
@@Napoleon637 You might enjoy E:BFD then, yes. It's a bit faster and somewhat clunky at times but quite popular for what it brings to the table as a classic RTS game. If you are perhaps ever interested in or in need of the community or modding scenes, I'd be happy to link you to the more central Discord servers where Dune games are currently being worked on and appreciated, but do enjoy the games at your own pace primarily.
Thanks! When does the song you are interested in play during the video? Let me know so that I can identify it for you. The tracks are from the Dune 2000 OST, as noted in the description.
The way, they used David Lynch’s movie style, props, costumes and designs makes the game very interesting for the movie fans - even though its lore is completely different. Also, the PS1 version looks very different (polygonal models, not sure if it’s for better or worse) and its soundtrack has a better quality.
You could say the Westwood adaptation is a spin-off of the Lynch adaptation; taking the world and aesthetics and rebooting it to better fit the game's style of presentation while aiming to stay true to the source material in many ways. The PS1 port was a bit unusual compared to the original version, but a bunch of good came from it - such as many new D2k fans that otherwise might not have discovered Dune.
IMO Westwood pre-RA2 games get the atmosphere right through their OSTs. Helps us immerse better with what's going on, not just pumping you into the heat of battle in a generic way.
It very much depends on the game and creative direction. If you take C&C3 as an example (which is post-RA2), it's mostly just atmospheric tracks that fit the developers (hopefully) intended direction. Although I do agree that earlier games tend to have more of a melodic soundtrack.
@@SkorvionGames Okay. Let's use RA3 as an example. During gameplay, I felt like I am a hero in a "game of war" as I manage everything from base construction to completing my mission. The feeling and the immersion didn't change much. Every mission almost felt the same, even when the context of the mission is supposed to be stealthy, or rescue/escort, or defend a position. With RA1 or Tiberian Dawn/Sun, it felt like we're in the middle of a thick plot. Stuffs turns very bad rather quickly (Try to recall GDI mission in TS where we are supposed to defend a giant alien ship. Suddenly a lightning storm's coming. Screen tone turns yellow, and the music stops.) That's so unnerving. Not only you "know" things will go bad from there, you also "feel" it. They nailed it right with the aesthetics and art direction. Same goes with RA1. Order a tank rush from your base to the enemy's after surviving an assault, while playing "face the enemy". Makes you feel ready and alert, since the music helps you feel like you're conducting a combat. "Anything can go wrong, don't let your guard down until every single corner of the map is free from enemy presence." Dune2K? Oh, I love it. Awesome atmosphere, with the "arrakian" ethnic music. Ah, I dunno what to call it. (The Atreides Gain, for example) ...I guess I am the kind of guy who'd prefer to be immersed with the situation and worldbuilding when it comes to storytelling.
@@ITBEurgava You might be in the right place then. If you hop over to some of my other videos, you will find more of just that in different ways. Immersion is vital to one's emotional involvement within a story, hence its continuous importance.
Great review! I see that you’re using the Gruntmods edition. When I run that version in higher resolutions, the menus, cutscenes and in-game units are incredibly small. What are your recommended graphic settings?
Thanks! Go to Configure Settings in the Gruntmods launcher menu and under Advanced Settings (Video Options tab) activate Cutscene Change Resolution. This should adapt the resolution so that the FMV cutscenes appear larger on your screen. As for how things look in game, you might want to try lowering the resolution you play on to about 800x600 (with your screen's native aspect ratio in mind). That should zoom you in closer, just as you probably remember from the old days.
Skorvion Games I actually never played D2K until now, so I have no sense of nostalgia for the game. But it looks quite good in 800 x 600 resolution on my 27 inch monitor (640x400 was just too blurry). So tx for the suggestion!
@@martinalther6661 Oh well that's good too, you get to experience the story for the first time! The 800x600 setting might work even better in that case, but if it starts feeling a bit crowded as you get more into the game, feel free to up the resolution a bit to compensate. Dune 2000 might be relatively old software, but it's definitely still golden with dedicated community support!
GOG.com asked the Dune license owners (Herbert and company) about a potential re-release with optimizations for modern systems, from what I've read. Their response was (sadly) a no, in the spirit of "if it's old, then it should stay old". They don't seem to have any love or connection to the old games, or how fans feel about them, just going by how coldly they responded. Very unfortunate. I hope that I'm wrong or that they change their minds later on, somehow.
@@SeekerMissile It might be a little more complicated, but it's definitely unfortunate. Luckily, we still have dedicated community modders keeping the old games alive and playable even today, and with considerable new content coming out every once in a while as well. :)
They must have used the original movie props to film some of those cutscenes. In that respect, I think that this game is heavily underrated among the David Lynch’s movie fans.
I've taken a closer look at how the games (E:BFD included) handled the outfits for the FMVs, and you can tell by the Fremen stillsuits that they are somewhat simpler and cheaper looking. So my current guess is that Westwood made replicas as close as they could without getting too complex about it (like with the water tubing etc). Not sure if there were any originals or not, but they did a damn fine job of making the aesthetics match the ones from the Lynch movie. And that's amazing.
@@SkorvionGames Like, perhaps the best or even ONLY good concise "documentary" of this old jewel i could find! (Lately i've been explaining the history of Dune a lot to those "uninitiateds" around me in anticipation of the Dune movie release haha :P)
@@dare2liv_nlove That's very cool of you to introduce others to the Dune universe. Keep it up! Although the Westwood game adaptations exist beyond the books and are based on the Lynch movie interpretation, they're still very much worthy additions to all things Dune. Dune 2000 is my personal favorite bit of Dune as well. I'm very grateful for your feedback on how the video assisted you, makes it all well worth the effort. Very happy to be of service to you with the video in any case! :)
The first rts that I saw was Age of empires, I was just amazed by it, but my PC couldn't handle it at the time, a friend of mine gave me a genesis emulator and it came with a rom of dune 2, it was slow, and you could say a dumbed down version of the original dune 2 but it scratched that itch of rts gameplay for someone who didnt had any, so i really liked it, what i like of dune 2000 is that infantry has a purpose, even tho are weak, and can get crushed, the can do some damage used right, what i don't like is the 1 clic controls and the lack of hotkeys on buildings. Nice video it really pays homage to an often overlooked game
Love that you feel strongly about the game, but a remake/remaster doesn't seem very likely going by what we currently know of how the right holders handle the Dune IP, as they wish for the old games to "stay old". The dedicated community however, is luckily always working on new mods and implementations to keep the game alive.
@@SkorvionGames i don't even know where I can find the game, I have an old hard copy but when I open the game it splits into 3 screens red, blue, and green...
@@dejarocki The spice melange is described as being cinnamon-like, so I was hoping your manual still had some traces of it after being shipped over to you from Arrakis.
Thanks! A lot of heart went into it. Tried to keep it light enough on technicalities to better facilitate more of a focus on how it all feels, rather than look at the game just as a product review of sorts. Hence why I call these inspirational reviews. Turned out well it seems, going by the incoming feedback!
I lost (enjoyed) hundreds of hours of dune 2 as a teenager/YA. Was the first multiplayer game I and my friends ever played bringing two PCs physically together via a cable to play multiplayer.
Very nice to hear about that! Thank you for sharing this part of your Dune experience. I'm sure it must have been a ton of fun for you and your friends back then.
i'll always be saddened that Ordos never got canon adaptation in future books/media. they add a completely different mindset to the setting of Dune and i appreciate their inclusion a lot. they almost feel like a brotherhood of nod that's had it's fanaticism swapped with corporatism.
I'd imagine a side book on Ordos dealings might of perhaps been tied to Ix and Tleilaxu houses in some shady capacity as well, potentially. Acquisition of forbidden tech and all that being a fitting theme for Ordos doctrine. It's interesting to consider what might have been explored or expanded on in other media, as you say.
The best thing about Dune 2000 was the atmosphere of the game. Top tier music. The gameplay was a remake of Dune 2 and was unremarkable. Barely any difference between the houses, bad pathing etc. Still, despite all that, I love Dune 2000.
Good to hear that you love the game, its OST and the overall atmosphere! It's always nice to hear of others' appreciation for Dune 2000, so thank you for sharing your view of the game with us here!
I wonder why they didn't make it possible to build concrete if a unit was standing on the square. Definitely a source of frustration! ^^ I understand why you can't build structures on top of the unit though.
My guess is that it could have something to do with the 2D sprites painting over each other (engine logic), but you'd have to ask the D2k modding/mapping community for a more accurate response. Although, given how you can't build single tiles of pavement for smaller structures, this had the fun effect of letting you block certain tiles from being built intentionally, if you were playing around aesthetically during gameplay. :)
@@SkorvionGames Ah yes, true. Intentionally not building 4x4 tiles makes sense. Building the 'perfect' base with beatuiful walls, turrets and the likes, was always my dream :P
You're definitely not alone in that regard. Although this is the great ironic mismatch most RTS games make, as you are technically rewarded in gameplay for putting down buildings randomly in as ugly and unrealistic of a base layout as you possibly can in order to speed through production. Makes me sometimes think that I might not even like RTS, but rather just the build and control simulation possibilities within the genre. Starcraft 2 COOP missions are a good modern example, as you don't have time (by design) to just sit down and do anything but constantly have to multitask, and are almost punished for aiming for anything but mathematical min-max mechanical mastery of the competetive aspect. This unfortunately bleeds into everything as it funnels and prepares players for the online scene. Just one example, but yeah, personally I'm just an immersive builder - not a clicks per minute machine. :P
@@SkorvionGames Exactly! Well described. That's why I never played much multiplayer RTS (and I usually end up losing :P). I'm more focused on esthetics & visions than being effective. Single player/skirmish has more room for playing around. I also enjoyed building a second mini base somewhere on the map, not because it enabled me to win more easily, but because it was fun and widened the gameplay. But it's good that you can play a game in many different ways :)
It's always surprising just how many people feel the same way, and yet the mutliplayer PvP community often takes the spotlight. Luckily, this evolves into modding communities hosting projects based on story and thematic immersion. And that's where things balance out for both preferences. RTS remains a strange mix of possibilities, being what you yourself make of it through play and creativity.
Not exactly sure how to compare a game to a movie myself, as they fulfill different roles. Perhaps in sub-categories like aesthetics or atmosphere? Each has their pros and cons depending on what the player or viewer expects or enjoys from Dune.
I would check the modding and mapping community for that. There have been some very cool developments in the past few years, custom campaigns and factions with many new units being one of them. I recommend playing "Summer's Solstice" if interested. Some relevant links are in the video description too. :)
Could you explain your issue in more detail? Usually you just deploy an MCV by double clicking it over an empty 3x3 hard rock surface, then proceed to place down 2x3 pavement before constructing a wind trap from the new sidebar build options.
@@JLMtime The surface you place a structure on must be dark brown (hard rock) and there must be adequate free space (2x3) to place the structure. If even a single tile is red, then you cannot place that specific structure in that spot. Units can block structures, as well as terrain features. Click the wind trap from the purchase menu first, then hover your mouse over an empty space and place it down with a second click.
Dune 2 was the first pc game I ever played... I remember it was around 95, my dad's friend down the road and his sons got him a pc at the time and they were a bit older than me but I used to go around and watch sports/play games etc.. One of them put dune 2 on my dads new pc and it blew my mind!!! I didn't know anything about the universe and to this day minus dune 2 lore and game info I'm still pretty rubbish... I watched the original film from the 80s on the sci-fi channel around the time I got into the game but from that j was still non the wiser about anything going into this year and seeing the trailer for the new film! I know there is a few books so would actually like to read them but no idea on the order etc... this game franchise opened a new world I am yet to fully understand but I loved this video and all the memories it brought back! Anyone recommend the book order or what to read? I clicked on download for this game as I would love to play it but it didn't seem to bring anything up... Marcelo Manchester, uk ✌
Very glad to hear that you enjoyed the video and that it brought up many fond memories for you, as Dune 2000 is a partial remake of Dune 2. While Westwood Studios' adaptation of Dune only follows the books as inspiration and doesn't carry over much of the deeper messages and themes, it's a great entry point into the franchise. The 1984 movie adaptation from David Lynch that you mention is a very confusing hit and miss variant of Dune's initial storyline if one does not have prior knowledge coming from the books themselves. I would suggest watching both the theatrical and extended versions of that one, as well as the deleted scenes - just to enjoy the visuals and atmosphere. There are also really cool fan edits floating around, such as the one titled "Dune: The Complete Saga" which I would suggest taking a look at as well (as a compilation of the many edits and scenes you might miss in other versions). Additionally, if you'd prefer something lighter but more understandable - check out the three part miniseries called "Frank Herbert's Dune", as that should give you a more adequate idea of what to expect from the books without going too far in depth. All of that combined, and you're in for an interesting ride with the new movie adaptations that have yet to come out. So explore as you feel comfortable, as Dune is full of deep meaning and reading between the lines, unlike the games which primarily focus on action and playability. If you're curious about reading the books, then just start with book one "Dune" from Frank Herbert, and move up the first three by going to "Dune Messiah" and then "Children of Dune". After that, you should be in a good position to continue on your own. Frank Herbert's books are what you're after - the six of them in standard order. The game links you mentioned should work as intended. The currently listed first one requires you to read down a bit to get the classic (but improved) package, while the second allows you to play a more modernized (multiplayer experience focused) re-implementation through a community launcher program which you'll need to install. Try checking once more to see if you've maybe missed something. Hope that all helps a bit!
@@SkorvionGames I watched the 84 extended version the other day it was really good... Downloaded the audio book Dune so just started listening to that and also got the game working... couldn't get the multilayer version going wirh the options etc but I got the base game and editable game modes so I'm happy with that, my laptop runs is at a really high setting but the screen size is tiny so I have to shrink it down to make it bigger but its still very playable... loving it to be honest... can't stop watching f the new film trailer either... Thanks for coming back to me mate much appreciated!!!
@@Marcelo83uk Nice to hear that you've already found some of the content and got the game working! Please enjoy and take your time, as Dune is a one of a kind experience that has so many fans for so many cool reasons. :)
...a world of sand, home of the spice melange. The spice controls the empire, and whoever controls Dune controls the spice and then cue in the 1984 movie theme.
It was a very unique theme, really fit well with the atmosphere and aesthetics the movie was going for. Sort of sounding a bit hopeful, but very distant and unknown.
@@SkorvionGames By the way I think that EbfD urgently needs it too. Next years should prove if it is possible, because there are attempts now to crack the 3d model format of the game. And who knows, maybe a mod tool package will be possible.
It would be amazing if EbfD got more tools and solutions for easier modding. The Dune 2000 community has already done wonders in the last few years, so I hope that progress eventually helps EbfD as well to a notably higher degree than what I've seen so far. I'm very grateful for all the dedicated and skilled modders we have out there doing their best to make the games more accessible and editable going forward. Hoping to see more good things in the future!
You can extract music and sound files (.AUD) from the game itself with software such as XCC Mixer. I'm very grateful to have played a small part in bringing those great memories closer to you again! Happy you enjoyed it!
@@J12S You can find XCC Mixer as part of XCC Utilities here: xhp.xwis.net/ Run XCC Mixer, then extend the hidden right panel by dragging the two bars apart towards the right. Use the left panel to navigate to Dune 2000/data/ where you have /Music and /GAMESFX, depending on what you wish to extract. Double-click any .AUD file to hear it play. Right-click the file and select Copy as WAV to extract it. It will be copied over to whatever location is opened on the right panel, as it copies from left to right. And you're done - have fun with the good old Dune 2000 sounds!
Sadly RA remastered did not include this title... Miss that crazy speedy quote: "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
It's definitely a very memorable mentat mantra. Originally from the Lynch movie, it eventually got carried over to the Westwood game adaptation - making the whole experience that much cooler!
For assistance with modding classic Dune 2000 or any file related questions, I'd suggest visiting this Discord server: discord.gg/Adwfxxe As for the OpenRA reimplementation, I recall being able to watch the campaign videos within the mission select feature itself. Don't know if anything changed in the meantime however, as I haven't used OpenRA in quite a while.
@@SkorvionGames ya the files are on my computer but for some reason it doesnt open in the game and the install doesnt recognize it. If i ever get discord ill check it out.
@@chrisdude2675 There are many knowledgeable modders and mappers within the Dune 2000 community that might know how to fix your issues. They often communicate through Discord, but if you'd rather look for assistance outside of Discord, then I recommend checking out the FED2k forum and asking around there as an alternative. You'll likely reach some of the same people that way.
@@chrisdude2675 Keep at it - there should be a way or workaround for most of these kinds of things. And if the forum doesn't get you an adequate reply, consider asking on Discord as an alternative. :)
It's just the same Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert 1 reskin, or to be fair it's the closest thing we get to Dune 2 remaster. Because Dune 2's unit and structure aesthetics is more gearing towards mix of 1980s Japanese Cyberpunk anime designs such as Akira(An excellent 1988 anime) and real life military equipment designs especially the Atreides light infantry looks similar to real life modern day soldier. Then, Dune 2000 returns to the original steampunk style from Frank Herbert books and 1984 David Lynch's movie(Heck, they even rip off the scenes from that movie into the game's cutscenes.).
Styles can influence each other, as everything is built either upon or just inspired by a selection of other things that come before it. Some of it is of course very intentional, like the Lynch aesthetics based on the movies. It's interesting to think about. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!
There are indications that a remake isn't likely, however we have community-driven mod projects and services that keep the game alive. I've linked a few in the video description.
It would be a nice addition, but unfortunately there have been some signs that a D2k remaster probably won't happen. I think the closest you can get is the OpenRA implementation of the game.
@@LINJ638 In short, Dune games are now focused on the new movie/s and the Dune rights holders have stated that they are not interested in bringing back anything that is old.
@@LINJ638 You can look up GOG.com's inquiry into a D2k re-release to confirm what I've said. That's all I have with regard to the classic RTS games at the moment.
For me Dune 2000 represents a full circle of second gen RTS by Westwood. Basically first gen is Dune 2, second gen is C&C, Red Alert and Dune 2000 and third gen is Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2 and Emperor: Battle for Dune. C&C improved everything Dune 2 had and so does Dune 2000 improved from C&C even more. I know a lot of people like Red Alert, but ugh... Maybe Intelligent Games dev learned from developing expansions for Red Alert, so it also contributed for improving Dune 2000.
As you already stated, Dune influenced C&C which built upon that foundation in many ways. Then going forward, everything learned and experienced from previous games served to influence the upcoming ones. Dune could very well be considered a part of C&C, just without the name. Every game contributed to the next, so it is all part of Westwood's RTS legacy.
@@SkorvionGames They are the same. From C&C to Emperor if you played at least one game in-between, you know how to play the rest. Kinda sad how after perfected mechanics from Dune 2000 didn't translate to Tiberian Sun at all.
@@Deimos_Fresh We need to keep in mind that each game's development cycle had its own set of challenges, and each had different creative direction. That being said, I feel that each C&C and Dune game under Westwood is a valuable gem of a game to keep and value forever. Except maybe C&C4... they can have that one back.
@@SkorvionGames C&C and Red Alert remasters looks like a good deal so far. I have zero hopes for anything related to Dune 2000 or Emperor or even Dune 2. As for C&C4... I think a total reimagining with proper (no esports) RTS mechanics and a better plot for GDI, NOD and Scrin as a playable factions can save it from it's current position.
@@Deimos_Fresh The remasters will be here very soon, so lets hope they do well commercially so that the trend continues and doesn't devolve into monetization focused design choices like with other EA games. But from what I've heard, things have been going very good so far. Stay optimistic and supportive of the developers, but also always cautious around EA as the publisher and IP holder.
i could run Red Alert perfectly with my 486 dx4100 with 16 edo ram and 1 meg trident isa video card but that was the limited... when this game came out dune 2000 i really wanted to play it but just couldnt buy it you needed a Pentium 90 with a 2meg Pci card this was the era when i stopped buying pc games and gave up
Man love House of odo's so much In dune i added in faction units like drones for the first time like a trike call ghost eater thst use stealth it's weapon is a acid gun that shoots corrosive balls of acid I wanted to upgrade the saboteur with a drone called death crawlers which are spider drones that explode when they attach their selves on vehicles A flying drone that lands into the enemy buildings and vehicles with EMP Call electrical storm as special I even had new units and specials for house harkonnen and house atreides which we're cool too
The D2k modding and mapping community is quite active these days, so you might want to check them out if you really enjoy editing the game like that. I've put some links to certain community hubs in the video description, for anyone interested.
@@SkorvionGames am no game designer but at time it was a good idea on paper which I wrote it on using designs from Legos I tried but I wasn't very good at modding I should have revealed this in my first comment sorry
@@donright4492 LEGO is great, it's good to practice being creative. If you ever feel like checking out all the cool custom work people have done around the game, the links are there as stated. Enjoy Dune in your own way - this was just a friendly suggestion based on what you wrote above.
I consider the gameplay with the units the strong point tbh, compared to Red Alert 3 which I consider one of the worst RTS. I mostly like the cinematics though, the actors are great in RA3, but the units are weird af and too much micromanagement, not to mention the weird way of getting resources and the need of an ally. Yep, Dune 2000 is still great!
It's sometimes hard to compare games from different times, as so much happens in between with the industry and players. But certainly, we can enjoy them for what they are and discuss how each comes into it's own form of legacy, with flaws and all. :)
It's interesting that there was seemingly more focus on now iconic melodic bits in such music, rather than more generic sounding universal tracks that can often be found in games today.
@@SkorvionGames I think there has been a fundamental shift in the gaming culture, besides the now larger demographic. It can sound exaggerated but i think its real, it is a totally different world now, even if the current indie scene is included.
@@zomp I sense something like that as well. There was once a time where I wondered how cool it would be if games and the creative culture around it would go wider and more mainstream, but as I got older and the more it actually did, the more I shifted away from it and went into lesser known games and communities. The focus on highly competitive, always social, and big industry (almost expendable) AAA-tier experiences didn't do much to keep things fresh and more enjoyable - just more standardized in certain ways. The effects of which connect back to your thoughts as well, I think.
It's quite an old game, so that just wasn't possible back then. Although community mods and other fan projects can always experiment with such features if they have the capacity to support it! Your idea reminds me of Dawn of War and other games such as Battlefront 2, and how they did territory control to make things more engaging. Would be a fun concept to explore on a map of Arrakis, definitely.
Another Dune game is already in production. However it probably won't be the type of game some of us were hoping for, and is likely being developed as an online service.
Both the setting and music have done a lot for the game, but I would like to add that it is also important to acknowledge all of the effort that goes on in game development itself. Especially back then when things were not so streamlined and simple on the technical side of things. No game is perfect, of course, but Dune 2000 is loved by many even today due to the results of all of the people who put their energy into making it what it is.
@@SkorvionGames I am not downplaying the contribution that programmers have to a game (they do the most work), but as a player you don't see that and it's not what you enjoy.
Fair point from the player's perspective, I understand what you mean. I felt like adding in a bit of appreciation for the developers. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
i remember first playing dune 2 on the genesis/megadrive and loving it and sinking many hours into it. then one fear i went on holiday and got a 3 in pack because dune 2000 but it also had wing commander prophecy and blade runner. at the time i dident apprieciate dune 2000 for what it was and thought of it more as a red alert total conversion. blade runner blew my mind, wing commander was meh
Seems like you were very much part of that innovative era of games. There is much to appreciate, especially when the games are still fondly played to this day, even after some (seemingly) official abandonment. Thanks for sharing some of your thoughts with us here!
There are games and such experiences for everyone out there, just maybe not in the mainstream spotlight as often, as the world and game dev industry has changed a lot over the years.
How did Dune 2000 (or Dune in general) end up earning your appreciation?
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Been a player since 2005, my cousin introduced it to me..
Basically it's what made me fall in love with the RTS genre..
The FMV cut-scenes, the shove down your throat strategy and the constant unit lost..
@@PixelatedAK It really does make the RTS genre richer for having D2k around. Players who got into RTS because of it would likely agree.
Dune 2 captivated me with the planet and the houses involved, just the desert with no water, the valuable spice, the giant worms, and the cruel Harkonnen building those good looking troopers graphics... plus dune 2 was my first RTS ever, so I was totally fascinated to playing a estrategic game that wasn't turn based as Civilization, dune 2 was on another level.
@@CmBlast That reminds me of D2 being covered in old game magazines. It certainly did its part to pave the way forward.
@@SkorvionGames which helped a genesis game called Herzog Zwei; I played this game much later, but as far as I know, dune 2 developers took inspiration of that game; it had RTS elements as well, like picking resources that increase with the game going on, building tanks with specific orders which also cost money depending on the order (standing still was 100 credits, attack the enemy base like 6500 and "guardian" order something in bewteen).
It is worth mentioning that this is a remake of Dune II, which is literally the first game ever described as an "RTS", so that explains its simplicity in gameplay and side variations. Command & Conquer was probably the first RTS that seriously played with balancing sides with very different arsenals.
Agreed. Luckily, the included variety persists as enough for a very wholesome experience. The game's popularity, still fondly held within the hearts of so many players, continues to speak for itself. :)
Herzog Zwei was the first RTS. Dune was first with the classical base building and resource gathering.
@@rahmspinat As I said, Dune II was literally the first game for which the words "real-time" and "strategy" were ever put together to describe a game. I don't think any game can really be pinpointed as "THE first", since genres evolve into other genres all the time.
I return to this game yearly and play both Dune 2 and Dune 2000, I love them dearly.
Absolutely; Westwood was AWESOME!
The editing on this video is fantastic
Thank you! Good to know you enjoyed it!
This literally brings back times I was playing this at my grannys while only having a few games to play on ps1 and a small tv..
It's very rewarding to hear that the video gave you some of those good feelings back! Thanks for sharing!
I've spent so many hours playing this. One of my favorite games. I still listen to the soundtrack from time to time.
D2k certainly leaves an impression. The soundtrack is quite the assortment of cool tracks in its own right.
dune, dune 2 and dune 2000 all have fantastic ost's
i love how the d2k reused and reinterpreted the dune 2 soundtracks. so interesting to see klepacki's evolution when it came to soundtracks
It really did a lot for the game's overall feeling with those soundtrack decisions. Always enjoyed listening to them!
Westwood studios, Rest in peace.
Their spirit and good intent lives on - within the games and us, the players.
@@SkorvionGamesWhat happened to them? 🤔
@@bedfordshiremodeller4491Ea bought the studio and destroyed it from within. the only good thing EA did since was the cnc remaster. which was somone elses work they just rehashed and slapped theirlogo onit.
@@knivesron Same i can't stand EA games or EA sports as they just want to own everything
The first of many strategy games, the father/mother of them all. Westwood was the greatest master of game making.
Westwood's spirit and hard work sent such games far forward in many ways. And that's something that will continue to be cherished among the C&C and connected RTS communities.
most of westwood games are absolute bangers. cnc, dune, blade runner, nox. ohh im waiting for a nox remaster
The music really does set up a unique tone for each!
What to say about this game, it brings back many memories because it was my first game I played in my brother's computer almost 20 years ago. The music is incredible and the graphics were amazingly good for that time. I loved it and i loved planet Dune so i read all the books from Frank Herbert. It is underrated due to Star Wars but this world has my appreciation. Thank you for the video.
Very glad you found so much value within the Dune universe and have such fond memories of the game itself. We all appreciate the same Arrakis, just from different perspectives and sometimes for different reasons. Thank YOU for sharing some of your inspired thoughts and feelings with us!
This is the first video I've watched of yours and really loved the philosophical statements and questions at the end. I've spend hundreds of hours of my childhood playing this game.
Thanks for sharing that with me. I'm keeping up a theme about involving games as positive and impactful influences on players. There's a lot these experiences can teach us about ourselves.
think i was 8-9 (2009) when my father gave me this game, and it was my first "real" game. becouse it was the only game i knew about, i bet that i played it for over 3k hours. now im 21 and looking back with nostalgia. i know this game better then the back of my hands.
building building building building building building building building building, construction complete. HARVESTER UNDER ATTACK!!! UNIT LOST!!!!!
It's great to hear that even as late as 2009, it was one of your first big game experiences. That's an amazing thing to hear as the more time passes, the less chance someone growing up will find out about the game and actually play it enough to value what it carries. It's very cool that you had the luck of being introduced to Dune 2000 in that way. Speaking of which, you can find some links in the video description if you ever feel like starting up the game again. :)
I basically grew up in a deep Swedish forest. And was a long drive to get never games back then. I tried OpenRA a few months back, well Dune2k didn't really hold up to my nostalgia sadly (mostly because you can't build more than one unit type at the time, unlike AoE) Great game regardless, and i might go back and play the Harkonnen campaign again. Thanks for reading my story haha :)
@@fisklars3579 Thank you for sharing it, it's wonderful to read. Dune 2000 is old, yeah, but there should be ways to mod the unit production count. The modding community has done wonders in recent years so it wouldn't surprise me. In any case I'm glad you found some nostalgia and value in the video, happy to be of service! Harkonnen out!
You can join on cncnet and play dune 2000 online its fun there
The “sigh” at the beginning. Many of times that has happened to me.
We can easily consider it part of the experience!
i miss this a lot , what a Masterpiece Game , Respect to Westwood studios, Great Review btw!
Thanks! You can still easily play the game if you miss it, even with some modern updates - relevant links are noted in the video description.
@@SkorvionGames i finished the gruntmods solo , i have no words to describe it ,probably i'll go find someone to have fun with in custom games ( i'd love a remake tbh)
@@PokGiratinaSH Glad to hear it! The community around the game is very much alive and well, so feel free to join the video description mentioned Discord servers if you're looking for fellow fans to play with as well.
As for an official remake - the odds aren't good for that happening in my eyes, given the recent standpoints of the people in charge of the franchise. Best to just focus on enjoying the many community-made updates, mods and custom campaigns that we often have in development these days (I recommend checking out the listed singleplayer focused Discord for more).
I put so many hours into this game. Truly excellent. I'd love to see a remake but I doubt it would live up to the original.
We'll always have the original, and with all the great things dedicated community modders are doing with it nowadays, there have never been easier ways to revisit the game and play it with some friends.
This is the remake
@@janeblogs324 You are correct in the sense that Dune 2000 is a remade Dune II, but the context of our earlier statements were aimed more towards the thought of a newer variant of Dune 2000, much like the recent C&C remasters for example. A remake of a remake, heh.
I loved this game when I got it back when I was like 12 or 13 at like Zellers or something. I remember beating or at least putting a lot of hours into it, with every faction. I loved the strategy map, it made me feel like a real Commander and I could see my supremacy unfold!
Strangely I didn't enjoy C&C games and didn't end up playing RTS again until Age of Empires and then Dawn of War.
Interestingly, Dawn of War also has that strategy map kinda thing.
Does anyone know other games with such a campaign map?
@@JasonMcCarrell Glad to hear you enjoyed the Dune 2000 map experience! Age of Empires and Dawn of War map features give players similar commander-ey feelings, I agree. For your question, just off the top of my head, I can roughly recommend taking a look at Emperor: Battle For Dune (the sequel to Dune 2000), Divinity - Dragon Commander, Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (galactic conquest mode in classic BF2), XCOM (both newer ones), Crying Suns, FTL, and Into The Breach as having similar or otherwise engaging strategic viewpoints. While not in the exact same style as Dune 2000, all of these have some sort of commander map where you move across territories. Check them out and see if they maybe fit your taste and game preferences.
Dune 2000 was the first RTS game I played when I was a kid. This review brought back tons of memories. Great content! Hope to see more coning!
Happy to hear that you enjoyed it! And thank you for the kind words of encouragement, as they are very much appreciated!
Great! This style of review articulates qualities about games that are normaly never focused in the gaming-review culture.
Thank you. It's very motivating to hear such feedback. I appreciate the thought!
I remember this game from childhood. I had started with PS1 but it was hard as you couldn't save the game mid-mission. I was only able to complete mission 8 and 9 of the three different campaigns when I replayed this on PC years later. But really very memorable - and the game made me get into the books. The soundtrack by Frank Klepacki is ahead of its time. 9:33 in the clip is very humorous to me because I used this tactic in some missions, taking stock of the fact that turrets don't do much damage to infantry relative to vehicles, while troopers could inflict quite the damage to infrastructure, especially en masse, so would drag a bunch of troopers to take care of them with ease, and equally so even tanks and buildings. I even won Atreides mission 5 using a tonne of troopers to storm the Harkonnen base (back then, I failed I realise the smugglers base could be used to generate an MCV so ended up using troopers, though it was hard work). This trooper strategy would be less effective in missions where siege tanks featured for obvious reasons. I think Ordos mission 6 is probably my favourite - was so cool seeing the frigates arrive with the deviators and other reinforcements after defending the starport for what seemed a lifetime.
Glad you got a bit of a laugh from the Turret comedy scene! They can also be tricked a little with Engineers rushing in, so your tactics are valid in multiple ways of course. Minus artillery being present, as you said.
And thanks for taking the time to write out and share so much of your memorable experiences from the game! It's heart warming to hear and really cool to know!
I'm really impressed by House Ordos. It just fits so well in the Dune universe. It's almost as if Frank Herbert himself wrote it.
I think Ordos is better written than any of the new books and lore that came after Frank Herbert.
The Ordos seem like a natural addition to the conflict. Where we have the two sides everyone knows as a consistent thread to follow from the books and other Dune content, the Ordos come in as an unknown without the burden of having a feud or complex political situation around it - and that's what helps them remain interesting. They are not shackled to a predefined story at all and their loyalties and preferences pretty much only target wealth and influence by any means they can utilize effectively. As a result, they're dangerous both as allies and enemies, and you can never really get a feel for what the Ordos represent as it isn't a House in the classical sense where you have a bloodline that has somehow risen to power.
@@SkorvionGamesheir not mentioned in the books films/TV series as they we,re only made for the2games
@@bedfordshiremodeller4491 If I remember correctly, House Ordos is only mentioned in a list of Houses from the old Dune Encyclopedia. Or something along those lines. Makes no practical difference however, as they exist in the game adaptations (as you said) which are their own thing, inspired by the books as well as Lynch's adaptation visually.
@@SkorvionGamesYes, with the nuance that it was an _unofficial_ Dune Encyclopedia, though.
@@Nyerguds As always, your notes and reminders are always appreciated! We all benefit from accurate info. Thanks!
dune 2 was my first RTS i played , after that it was WAR2 "warcraft 2" then dune 2000 came after that it was like WOW kind of game to me, good old memories
Good to hear that you have fond memories of your time with the game!
Same but mine was the old school PC late mid80,e version which also came out for the sega megadrive
One of my favorite games ever. I remember playing for 20 hours straight, little sleep and get back again. Have been ccompleted on hard on all of them, but hardest for me was last mission froom harkonnen
An achievement to be proud of, for sure. Nice to hear that you enjoyed the game so much!
Your editing is phenomenal and the video was really interesting and had some funny parts! I have never played this game but I'm invested because your explanation and informative video.
Thank you for the sincere comment, means a lot! Although many scenes have returning players in mind, the video was edited in a way that might offer a bit of key insight for someone who has never even seen the game, so I'm glad you found it interesting enough to feel invested. Very cool to hear! :D
The thing i hate the most:
"Harvester under attack".
Better than suddenly hearing "worm attack".
Yea:)
Or bulding lost
Many to choose from!
“Wormsign”
I remember watching my dad playing this and the following game, Emperor: Battle for Dune as a kid and then eventually playing it myself. I got used to the controls because he let me control the units at the end of missions when there were like 2 enemy buildings left and I'd play around with stuff.
The Dune games are a brilliant example of old games clearly needing a rerelease with support on newer systems as well as online play. I'd buy this in a heartbeat if it appeared on Steam. I know there are a bunch of mods and whatever that do that but I'm really paranoid for viruses and such.
These were my first RTS games and still among my favourites.
Thank you very much for sharing that bit of your Dune memories with us here! Always nice to hear about such experiences!
I've included two specific links in the video description where you can reach the game. These are not random downloads but fully community supported (updated) game variants. Online play is a thing as well, just check OpenRA.
The Dune rights holders have stated in the past that they wish for the old games to stay old, with no interest in potential rereleases (look up GOG.com's dialogue attempts if curious). Take that as you will. I would suggest joining the Dune 2000 community on Discord, also linked, for added reassurance on getting the games up and running (as that might help in your case). There have also been quite a few improvements and additions to both the classic and modernized Dune 2000 variants.
Hope this helps a bit, and please enjoy the game if you decide to check it out! :D
@@SkorvionGames thanks so much. I'll check them out when I get home from holiday. Do I need the Dune 2k disc as my computer doesn't have a disc thingy.
@@TheQuackinator You should be good with the Gruntmods edition, I think. I recommend first checking that one out and fiddling with the game settings to your linking. The Discord community should be more than happy to assist you if you run into any technical issues, especially "Dune 2000 Landsraad", going by personal experience. I can help as well of course, should you pop up with any questions I might know the solutions to, so feel free to ask!
@@SkorvionGames Kinda unrelated question but did you ever play the game after 2000 called Emperor: Battle for Dune? It's my personal favourite Westwood game (2000 has a close second place) but doesn't seem very well known or at least not spoken about very often, especially compared to the other Westwood RTS games.
@@SkorvionGames also, I just got home from holiday, downloaded the gruntmods edition and so far it works flawlessly. Thanks!
This was really entertaining to watch man! I hope that your channel gets the attention it deserves!
Very glad you found the video entertaining, as a lot of heart went into making it the way it is! Thank you!
The first game I really wanted.
I remember seeing the intro video on a computer magazine disk and it seemed so cool
Sneak peek intros and demos were something many of us fondly remember from back then. Good to hear you ran into a similarly uplifting experience as well.
Really fantastic review and I have to say I agree whole heartedly with the sentiment. Bravo!
Many thanks for the input! Really glad you enjoyed the video and found value in the way I presented the game! Thank you!
This game is till totally awesome, I love it! Especially the music is good, and, like every thing else for its time.
Glad you think so as well! It's definitely a real gem of a game.
Small differences ammounting to a huge benefit, if you play your game well. Combat tanks are not just different in esthetics, they also behave little differently...
As stated in the video, the faction unit specifics include "less noticeable combat related differences" that favor intended gameplay advantages. One of the most evident examples would be the difference between a Trike and a Raider.
Dune 2000 and AOE one of the best era.
Certainly times in video game history to be cherished and remembered.
The music at the end is when you are in the zone, building, making walls, re-enforcing turrets, setting up repair and delivery order areas, defending back bases with a few air turrets scatters between buildings of Air Traps and Hi-Tech, making sure you have enough silos and harvesters and refineries to support an attack.
The soundtrack does indeed give off fitting vibes to how the game is often played and enjoyed, with the many thematic things to do and experience as you have already stated.
This is certainly still one of my favorite RTS games.
Likewise for many of us as well!
I played this on the PlayStation 1 a lot... good memories :)
It's nice to hear that you have some great memories from the PS1 version!
Same here, I didn’t have a PC back then so I able to tell my PC gamer friends that the PSX version had upgraded 3D graphics over the computer version. Had Red Alert too on PSX! Good ol days
@@williamparry6733 It's nice to know that you were able to experience Dune 2000 despite not having a computer at the time.
Yea, the 3D in the Playstation version was interesting :)
@@Nyerguds Interesting enough that so many people got converted into Dune fans!
With the new Dune movie out, I immediately thought of this game and how much I loved it. "Fremen ready" "Worm Sign"
Saw the new one at a pre-premiere event recently myself. Very glad to see it reminding people of the classic Westwood games. :)
This was a fantastic review!Here from YGA and i just subed my new friend!
Hey I'm very glad you think so. Nice to hear such good feedback!
I LOVE THIS GAME FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. ( sorry for shouting but I truly love this game )
The game probably loves you too! :D
Very well done video my friend! One of these actors is a famous actor who was in Indiana Jones and some other films I just cant remember his name! I cant believe he is in this game!
Thanks! You mean John Rhys-Davies who plays Sallah in Indiana Jones. He's the Atreides mentat in Dune 2000, Noree Moneo. Really brings that side's efforts to life in the cutscenes!
@@SkorvionGames Yes that's him! Love that dude!
@@DoubleDragonGaming His character roles are very cool indeed! I know him from another game or two as well.
@@SkorvionGames And he was Gimli in the LOTR movies!
@@TheRealRetroBeard For some strange reason, I honestly haven't noticed that fact until now. Thanks so much for pointing it out - makes LOTR that much cooler!
I absolutely loved this game way back when! I played every campaign over and over. I even still have the CD on my shelf! It would be amazing if they could do a remaster of this like they did with C&C!
As far as I've read, the rights to Dune are a very touchy subject and the right holders are currently of the opinion that what is old should stay old. I've read about this via GOG.com who attempted to get the games re-released for modern system use, but were turned away with a big no. They'll probably keep trying though. It's not a remaster, but it would be something!
Although we do have countless community-driven updates, mods, maps and missions to play regardless of official support, so the Westwood adaptation Dune games luckily continue to thrive.
@@SkorvionGames I heard the same thing about a remaster as well. It is possible maybe with that new Dune movie due out that they might change their minds but I doubt we'd get that remaster as well. I will continue to dream tho!
@@DarkLorde There are newer Dune games in production apparently, but that's a whole other type of player experience. Not connected to the Westwood adaptation. As for the old games getting re-released for modern systems in an official capacity, we can only hope they change their minds at some point, as you say!
Great storytelling about shared memories! Noticed you thanked Westwood, but they have long gone... did someone from the studio help you put this together?
Thank you! The special thanks is primarily just in the spirit of gratitude. I sometimes list people that have assisted in some way, but it's often more of a relevant appreciation type of mention that doesn't necessarily have to be a direct involvement in the video itself. Gratitude is an important practice and only benefits with its spread. :)
@@SkorvionGames true words!!!
@@Flightcoach Glad you think so too! Gratitude is one of the most powerful and beneficial emotional tools we have in our daily lives.
I was young when this came out and it was the first game that got me into rts.. Tbh I think if Westwood stuck with the simple build and deploy strategies they would still be relevant today.. Dune 2000 got me into rts.. And dune 2000, red alert, ra2, Yuri, emporor battle for dune was the golden times for Westwood.. Those games were and still are fun to play.. The simplicity let's me pick it up and play it to this day.. And it's pretty tough.. The graphics hold up.. And the cutscenes were always great imo.. Looking forward to dune reviving after the Timothee chalumet movie.. We should finally see dune rise to more fame
The revival of Dune in multimedia is a welcome addition, for sure. And if future potential games don't exactly turn out that well (or survive long term in this online world) we'll always have the good old Westwood games to fall back to in nostalgic enjoyment at least.
I'm saddened that I grew up with Red Alert 1 and 2, Command and Conquer and Tiberian Sun but never heard of Westwood's Dune, at least I can now try it out thanks to your links in the description, thanks.
You are very welcome, but don't be sad that you didn't experience it in the past, but remain grateful for discovering it now in the present! It's never too late to jump in and enjoy the game for what it is, and I wholeheartedly encourage you to have fun with it and experience the campaigns.
You might also potentially like Emperor: Battle for Dune, the sequel that comes after Dune 2000. So please enjoy, and feel free to ask for assistance if you run into any trouble with running the game - the old Dune games are far from being forgotten and left in the sand, as the community will likely be quick to tell you, I'm sure. :)
@@SkorvionGames I'll definitely check out Emperor Battle for Dune, I've seen the gameplay and it made me feel like I was seeing Alpha Red Alert 3, especially that intro. Appreciation to the community for keeping these games intact to enjoy!!
@@Napoleon637 You might enjoy E:BFD then, yes. It's a bit faster and somewhat clunky at times but quite popular for what it brings to the table as a classic RTS game. If you are perhaps ever interested in or in need of the community or modding scenes, I'd be happy to link you to the more central Discord servers where Dune games are currently being worked on and appreciated, but do enjoy the games at your own pace primarily.
great video. pls tell me whats that electronic song? loving it
Thanks! When does the song you are interested in play during the video? Let me know so that I can identify it for you. The tracks are from the Dune 2000 OST, as noted in the description.
@@SkorvionGames it plays at 2:10. thank you for your fast reply
@@SkorvionGames i found it its rise of harkonnen thank you so much!!!!
Yeah I was just about to write that. Glad you found it! :D
The way, they used David Lynch’s movie style, props, costumes and designs makes the game very interesting for the movie fans - even though its lore is completely different. Also, the PS1 version looks very different (polygonal models, not sure if it’s for better or worse) and its soundtrack has a better quality.
You could say the Westwood adaptation is a spin-off of the Lynch adaptation; taking the world and aesthetics and rebooting it to better fit the game's style of presentation while aiming to stay true to the source material in many ways.
The PS1 port was a bit unusual compared to the original version, but a bunch of good came from it - such as many new D2k fans that otherwise might not have discovered Dune.
@@SkorvionGamesTechnicallty the PC version was better if you hdda really powerful PC/graphics chip and processor
@@bedfordshiremodeller4491 It was made for a PC experience primarily as far as I'm aware. So understandable.
I miss this game! Wish i knew where i could purchase it so i can play it on Win 10 :(. Great video btw! ... The spice must flow ...
Hey thanks! Go take a look in the video description. I've posted some links under "PLAY AN UPDATED DUNE 2000" that you might find very helpful. :)
Such a great game the factions the universe the planet and lore this game made me a dune fan
All of it combined definitely makes for a very cool experience!
IMO Westwood pre-RA2 games get the atmosphere right through their OSTs. Helps us immerse better with what's going on, not just pumping you into the heat of battle in a generic way.
It very much depends on the game and creative direction. If you take C&C3 as an example (which is post-RA2), it's mostly just atmospheric tracks that fit the developers (hopefully) intended direction. Although I do agree that earlier games tend to have more of a melodic soundtrack.
@@SkorvionGames Okay. Let's use RA3 as an example. During gameplay, I felt like I am a hero in a "game of war" as I manage everything from base construction to completing my mission. The feeling and the immersion didn't change much. Every mission almost felt the same, even when the context of the mission is supposed to be stealthy, or rescue/escort, or defend a position.
With RA1 or Tiberian Dawn/Sun, it felt like we're in the middle of a thick plot. Stuffs turns very bad rather quickly (Try to recall GDI mission in TS where we are supposed to defend a giant alien ship. Suddenly a lightning storm's coming. Screen tone turns yellow, and the music stops.) That's so unnerving. Not only you "know" things will go bad from there, you also "feel" it. They nailed it right with the aesthetics and art direction.
Same goes with RA1. Order a tank rush from your base to the enemy's after surviving an assault, while playing "face the enemy". Makes you feel ready and alert, since the music helps you feel like you're conducting a combat. "Anything can go wrong, don't let your guard down until every single corner of the map is free from enemy presence."
Dune2K? Oh, I love it. Awesome atmosphere, with the "arrakian" ethnic music. Ah, I dunno what to call it. (The Atreides Gain, for example)
...I guess I am the kind of guy who'd prefer to be immersed with the situation and worldbuilding when it comes to storytelling.
@@ITBEurgava You might be in the right place then. If you hop over to some of my other videos, you will find more of just that in different ways. Immersion is vital to one's emotional involvement within a story, hence its continuous importance.
This was always my favorite Westwood rts
It holds a very special place in my heart as well, right up there with Tiberian Sun!
Join us on cncnet and enjoy playing dune 2000 online
@@SkorvionGamesDo Westworld or Westwood Studios still make RTS games? 🤔🤷♂️
Great review! I see that you’re using the Gruntmods edition. When I run that version in higher resolutions, the menus, cutscenes and in-game units are incredibly small. What are your recommended graphic settings?
Thanks! Go to Configure Settings in the Gruntmods launcher menu and under Advanced Settings (Video Options tab) activate Cutscene Change Resolution. This should adapt the resolution so that the FMV cutscenes appear larger on your screen. As for how things look in game, you might want to try lowering the resolution you play on to about 800x600 (with your screen's native aspect ratio in mind). That should zoom you in closer, just as you probably remember from the old days.
Skorvion Games I actually never played D2K until now, so I have no sense of nostalgia for the game. But it looks quite good in 800 x 600 resolution on my 27 inch monitor (640x400 was just too blurry). So tx for the suggestion!
@@martinalther6661 Oh well that's good too, you get to experience the story for the first time! The 800x600 setting might work even better in that case, but if it starts feeling a bit crowded as you get more into the game, feel free to up the resolution a bit to compensate. Dune 2000 might be relatively old software, but it's definitely still golden with dedicated community support!
one of the best RTS for multiplayer
Agreed, it can be very fun to play.
I was rly hoping EA would make a remaster of this game after new Dune movie's success.
GOG.com asked the Dune license owners (Herbert and company) about a potential re-release with optimizations for modern systems, from what I've read. Their response was (sadly) a no, in the spirit of "if it's old, then it should stay old". They don't seem to have any love or connection to the old games, or how fans feel about them, just going by how coldly they responded. Very unfortunate. I hope that I'm wrong or that they change their minds later on, somehow.
@@SkorvionGames yeah, old people logic...video games bad hurr durr
@@SeekerMissile It might be a little more complicated, but it's definitely unfortunate. Luckily, we still have dedicated community modders keeping the old games alive and playable even today, and with considerable new content coming out every once in a while as well. :)
Rest in Piece Westwood
They gave us some really amazing experiences, and I'll always be very grateful for their impact on my life.
They must have used the original movie props to film some of those cutscenes. In that respect, I think that this game is heavily underrated among the David Lynch’s movie fans.
I've taken a closer look at how the games (E:BFD included) handled the outfits for the FMVs, and you can tell by the Fremen stillsuits that they are somewhat simpler and cheaper looking. So my current guess is that Westwood made replicas as close as they could without getting too complex about it (like with the water tubing etc). Not sure if there were any originals or not, but they did a damn fine job of making the aesthetics match the ones from the Lynch movie. And that's amazing.
I played the original Dune 2 a lot with my friend on his 486 wheen it came out in 1992 (?). Some of the best memories of my gaming life.
That's great to hear! Dune 2 was a really cool experience back in the day!
@@SkorvionGames It was my first exposure to the Dune universe, and it always kept a special place in my heart.
That's really nice. Glad you got to experience it and now have those memories and appreciation to keep onward.
Really well done Review!
Thank you! Good to hear you enjoyed it!
Comment just to say how good of a retrospective review this was!
Your comment has been noted and is definitely appreciated! Thank you!
@@SkorvionGames Like, perhaps the best or even ONLY good concise "documentary" of this old jewel i could find!
(Lately i've been explaining the history of Dune a lot to those "uninitiateds" around me in anticipation of the Dune movie release haha :P)
@@dare2liv_nlove That's very cool of you to introduce others to the Dune universe. Keep it up! Although the Westwood game adaptations exist beyond the books and are based on the Lynch movie interpretation, they're still very much worthy additions to all things Dune. Dune 2000 is my personal favorite bit of Dune as well.
I'm very grateful for your feedback on how the video assisted you, makes it all well worth the effort. Very happy to be of service to you with the video in any case! :)
The first rts that I saw was Age of empires, I was just amazed by it, but my PC couldn't handle it at the time, a friend of mine gave me a genesis emulator and it came with a rom of dune 2, it was slow, and you could say a dumbed down version of the original dune 2 but it scratched that itch of rts gameplay for someone who didnt had any, so i really liked it, what i like of dune 2000 is that infantry has a purpose, even tho are weak, and can get crushed, the can do some damage used right, what i don't like is the 1 clic controls and the lack of hotkeys on buildings. Nice video it really pays homage to an often overlooked game
Thanks for sharing a few of your thoughts and cool experiences with the game! And thank you for the feedback, good to hear you liked the video.
I love this game I hope they make a remake or remaster of this game for us die hard fans!
Love that you feel strongly about the game, but a remake/remaster doesn't seem very likely going by what we currently know of how the right holders handle the Dune IP, as they wish for the old games to "stay old". The dedicated community however, is luckily always working on new mods and implementations to keep the game alive.
@@SkorvionGames i don't even know where I can find the game, I have an old hard copy but when I open the game it splits into 3 screens red, blue, and green...
@@KazeNoYurei Check the video description for some very useful links that should solve that for you. :)
MELHOR JOGO DE TODOS, JOGO ATÉ HOJE
Thanks for the comment! Dune 2000 is a great game!
aaah i can smell the dune 2k manual when i see this content
Does it smell like cinnamon?
@@SkorvionGames more like fresh printed business card with a cold and shiny book cover
@@dejarocki The spice melange is described as being cinnamon-like, so I was hoping your manual still had some traces of it after being shipped over to you from Arrakis.
"our base is under a tack"
"Fire the genius that approved that hazard"
Thanks for the fun comment!
What an awesome video
Thank you! Very glad to hear that you enjoyed it. :)
@@SkorvionGames it was a really good critical approach to a classic what can I say :)
Thanks! A lot of heart went into it. Tried to keep it light enough on technicalities to better facilitate more of a focus on how it all feels, rather than look at the game just as a product review of sorts. Hence why I call these inspirational reviews. Turned out well it seems, going by the incoming feedback!
I lost (enjoyed) hundreds of hours of dune 2 as a teenager/YA. Was the first multiplayer game I and my friends ever played bringing two PCs physically together via a cable to play multiplayer.
Very nice to hear about that! Thank you for sharing this part of your Dune experience. I'm sure it must have been a ton of fun for you and your friends back then.
Next maybe Emperor:BFD?
The idea had crossed my mind, so perhaps I'll make a video about Emperor too at some point. We'll have to see!
Yeah, that would be awesome!
@@eoftar3192 I'll have to see what I can do. :)
i'll always be saddened that Ordos never got canon adaptation in future books/media. they add a completely different mindset to the setting of Dune and i appreciate their inclusion a lot. they almost feel like a brotherhood of nod that's had it's fanaticism swapped with corporatism.
I'd imagine a side book on Ordos dealings might of perhaps been tied to Ix and Tleilaxu houses in some shady capacity as well, potentially. Acquisition of forbidden tech and all that being a fitting theme for Ordos doctrine. It's interesting to consider what might have been explored or expanded on in other media, as you say.
The best thing about Dune 2000 was the atmosphere of the game. Top tier music. The gameplay was a remake of Dune 2 and was unremarkable. Barely any difference between the houses, bad pathing etc. Still, despite all that, I love Dune 2000.
Good to hear that you love the game, its OST and the overall atmosphere! It's always nice to hear of others' appreciation for Dune 2000, so thank you for sharing your view of the game with us here!
I wonder why they didn't make it possible to build concrete if a unit was standing on the square. Definitely a source of frustration! ^^ I understand why you can't build structures on top of the unit though.
My guess is that it could have something to do with the 2D sprites painting over each other (engine logic), but you'd have to ask the D2k modding/mapping community for a more accurate response.
Although, given how you can't build single tiles of pavement for smaller structures, this had the fun effect of letting you block certain tiles from being built intentionally, if you were playing around aesthetically during gameplay. :)
@@SkorvionGames
Ah yes, true. Intentionally not building 4x4 tiles makes sense. Building the 'perfect' base with beatuiful walls, turrets and the likes, was always my dream :P
You're definitely not alone in that regard. Although this is the great ironic mismatch most RTS games make, as you are technically rewarded in gameplay for putting down buildings randomly in as ugly and unrealistic of a base layout as you possibly can in order to speed through production. Makes me sometimes think that I might not even like RTS, but rather just the build and control simulation possibilities within the genre.
Starcraft 2 COOP missions are a good modern example, as you don't have time (by design) to just sit down and do anything but constantly have to multitask, and are almost punished for aiming for anything but mathematical min-max mechanical mastery of the competetive aspect. This unfortunately bleeds into everything as it funnels and prepares players for the online scene. Just one example, but yeah, personally I'm just an immersive builder - not a clicks per minute machine. :P
@@SkorvionGames Exactly! Well described. That's why I never played much multiplayer RTS (and I usually end up losing :P). I'm more focused on esthetics & visions than being effective. Single player/skirmish has more room for playing around. I also enjoyed building a second mini base somewhere on the map, not because it enabled me to win more easily, but because it was fun and widened the gameplay. But it's good that you can play a game in many different ways :)
It's always surprising just how many people feel the same way, and yet the mutliplayer PvP community often takes the spotlight. Luckily, this evolves into modding communities hosting projects based on story and thematic immersion. And that's where things balance out for both preferences. RTS remains a strange mix of possibilities, being what you yourself make of it through play and creativity.
this game is WAY better than the recent 2021 remake of the dune movie....
Not exactly sure how to compare a game to a movie myself, as they fulfill different roles. Perhaps in sub-categories like aesthetics or atmosphere? Each has their pros and cons depending on what the player or viewer expects or enjoys from Dune.
i wish there have been more clans to choose , not only 3 , but overall it was a really good game :)
I would check the modding and mapping community for that. There have been some very cool developments in the past few years, custom campaigns and factions with many new units being one of them. I recommend playing "Summer's Solstice" if interested. Some relevant links are in the video description too. :)
5:30 War of Assassins, Harkonnen Mission 5
Lots of cool missions to experience as the story progresses on the Harkonnen side.
Fucking solider always blocking u from laying a perfect concrete always gets me 😂
It's not an accident, it's a feature!
I cant figure out how to even do the 2nd move it wants me to make wind tunnel & I freaking clicked every posible button NOTHING i dont get it
Could you explain your issue in more detail?
Usually you just deploy an MCV by double clicking it over an empty 3x3 hard rock surface, then proceed to place down 2x3 pavement before constructing a wind trap from the new sidebar build options.
@@SkorvionGames in tried clicking a empty spot what button after click empty spot to drop wind tunnel
@@JLMtime The surface you place a structure on must be dark brown (hard rock) and there must be adequate free space (2x3) to place the structure. If even a single tile is red, then you cannot place that specific structure in that spot. Units can block structures, as well as terrain features. Click the wind trap from the purchase menu first, then hover your mouse over an empty space and place it down with a second click.
For the house Ordos!
We're ready! Ordos out!
I remember finding out this game and Emperor actually being outsourced to Intelligent Games. And also reviewers slamming it.
Yeah, it seems like the Dune games were considered as side projects when compared to Command & Conquer.
Dune 2 was the first pc game I ever played... I remember it was around 95, my dad's friend down the road and his sons got him a pc at the time and they were a bit older than me but I used to go around and watch sports/play games etc..
One of them put dune 2 on my dads new pc and it blew my mind!!! I didn't know anything about the universe and to this day minus dune 2 lore and game info I'm still pretty rubbish... I watched the original film from the 80s on the sci-fi channel around the time I got into the game but from that j was still non the wiser about anything going into this year and seeing the trailer for the new film!
I know there is a few books so would actually like to read them but no idea on the order etc... this game franchise opened a new world I am yet to fully understand but I loved this video and all the memories it brought back!
Anyone recommend the book order or what to read? I clicked on download for this game as I would love to play it but it didn't seem to bring anything up...
Marcelo
Manchester, uk ✌
Very glad to hear that you enjoyed the video and that it brought up many fond memories for you, as Dune 2000 is a partial remake of Dune 2. While Westwood Studios' adaptation of Dune only follows the books as inspiration and doesn't carry over much of the deeper messages and themes, it's a great entry point into the franchise. The 1984 movie adaptation from David Lynch that you mention is a very confusing hit and miss variant of Dune's initial storyline if one does not have prior knowledge coming from the books themselves. I would suggest watching both the theatrical and extended versions of that one, as well as the deleted scenes - just to enjoy the visuals and atmosphere. There are also really cool fan edits floating around, such as the one titled "Dune: The Complete Saga" which I would suggest taking a look at as well (as a compilation of the many edits and scenes you might miss in other versions). Additionally, if you'd prefer something lighter but more understandable - check out the three part miniseries called "Frank Herbert's Dune", as that should give you a more adequate idea of what to expect from the books without going too far in depth.
All of that combined, and you're in for an interesting ride with the new movie adaptations that have yet to come out. So explore as you feel comfortable, as Dune is full of deep meaning and reading between the lines, unlike the games which primarily focus on action and playability. If you're curious about reading the books, then just start with book one "Dune" from Frank Herbert, and move up the first three by going to "Dune Messiah" and then "Children of Dune". After that, you should be in a good position to continue on your own. Frank Herbert's books are what you're after - the six of them in standard order.
The game links you mentioned should work as intended. The currently listed first one requires you to read down a bit to get the classic (but improved) package, while the second allows you to play a more modernized (multiplayer experience focused) re-implementation through a community launcher program which you'll need to install. Try checking once more to see if you've maybe missed something. Hope that all helps a bit!
@@SkorvionGames I watched the 84 extended version the other day it was really good...
Downloaded the audio book Dune so just started listening to that and also got the game working... couldn't get the multilayer version going wirh the options etc but I got the base game and editable game modes so I'm happy with that, my laptop runs is at a really high setting but the screen size is tiny so I have to shrink it down to make it bigger but its still very playable... loving it to be honest... can't stop watching f the new film trailer either...
Thanks for coming back to me mate much appreciated!!!
@@Marcelo83uk Nice to hear that you've already found some of the content and got the game working! Please enjoy and take your time, as Dune is a one of a kind experience that has so many fans for so many cool reasons. :)
@@SkorvionGames awesome mate have a good evening I'm gonna put the book on for a few hours in my headphones :)
@@Marcelo83uk Thanks, you too! Have fun and enjoy!
...a world of sand, home of the spice melange. The spice controls the empire, and whoever controls Dune controls the spice and then cue in the 1984 movie theme.
It was a very unique theme, really fit well with the atmosphere and aesthetics the movie was going for. Sort of sounding a bit hopeful, but very distant and unknown.
@@SkorvionGames One of my favorite movie/tv themes
@@chichiboypumpi It's very catchy in a dark way. Really sells the world to the viewer!
@@SkorvionGames bravo
Do those worms make the same mistake as that flying unit in Warcraft 2?
Not sure what you mean. I don't have enough experience with Warcraft 2 to give an adequate response.
It still has the best Harkonnen Devastator.
Yes, I feel that the heavy tank style Devastator is definitely a classic to appreciate.
@@SkorvionGames By the way I think that EbfD urgently needs it too. Next years should prove if it is possible, because there are attempts now to crack the 3d model format of the game. And who knows, maybe a mod tool package will be possible.
It would be amazing if EbfD got more tools and solutions for easier modding. The Dune 2000 community has already done wonders in the last few years, so I hope that progress eventually helps EbfD as well to a notably higher degree than what I've seen so far. I'm very grateful for all the dedicated and skilled modders we have out there doing their best to make the games more accessible and editable going forward. Hoping to see more good things in the future!
¿Where did you get those sfx? :O they took me a while ago in my childhood haha
¡ROCKING MEMORIES video though!
You can extract music and sound files (.AUD) from the game itself with software such as XCC Mixer. I'm very grateful to have played a small part in bringing those great memories closer to you again! Happy you enjoyed it!
@@SkorvionGames ¿Where can I download that software? I want to try :D
@@J12S You can find XCC Mixer as part of XCC Utilities here: xhp.xwis.net/
Run XCC Mixer, then extend the hidden right panel by dragging the two bars apart towards the right. Use the left panel to navigate to Dune 2000/data/ where you have /Music and /GAMESFX, depending on what you wish to extract. Double-click any .AUD file to hear it play. Right-click the file and select Copy as WAV to extract it. It will be copied over to whatever location is opened on the right panel, as it copies from left to right. And you're done - have fun with the good old Dune 2000 sounds!
@@SkorvionGames ¡Thank you so much for your time! I really really appreciate it. 💪🏽 ❤
Sadly RA remastered did not include this title...
Miss that crazy speedy quote: "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
It's definitely a very memorable mentat mantra. Originally from the Lynch movie, it eventually got carried over to the Westwood game adaptation - making the whole experience that much cooler!
i miss dune 2000
Never too late to start playing again!
Go and play dune 2000 multiplayer on cncnet
I wish the mods for this didnt crash constantly. OPEN RA probably most stable but cant even figure out how to add videos to it.
For assistance with modding classic Dune 2000 or any file related questions, I'd suggest visiting this Discord server: discord.gg/Adwfxxe
As for the OpenRA reimplementation, I recall being able to watch the campaign videos within the mission select feature itself. Don't know if anything changed in the meantime however, as I haven't used OpenRA in quite a while.
@@SkorvionGames ya the files are on my computer but for some reason it doesnt open in the game and the install doesnt recognize it. If i ever get discord ill check it out.
@@chrisdude2675 There are many knowledgeable modders and mappers within the Dune 2000 community that might know how to fix your issues. They often communicate through Discord, but if you'd rather look for assistance outside of Discord, then I recommend checking out the FED2k forum and asking around there as an alternative. You'll likely reach some of the same people that way.
@@SkorvionGames i joined, thanks man. hopefully i get it working
@@chrisdude2675 Keep at it - there should be a way or workaround for most of these kinds of things. And if the forum doesn't get you an adequate reply, consider asking on Discord as an alternative. :)
It's just the same Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert 1 reskin, or to be fair it's the closest thing we get to Dune 2 remaster.
Because Dune 2's unit and structure aesthetics is more gearing towards mix of 1980s Japanese Cyberpunk anime designs such as Akira(An excellent 1988 anime) and real life military equipment designs especially the Atreides light infantry looks similar to real life modern day soldier. Then, Dune 2000 returns to the original steampunk style from Frank Herbert books and 1984 David Lynch's movie(Heck, they even rip off the scenes from that movie into the game's cutscenes.).
Styles can influence each other, as everything is built either upon or just inspired by a selection of other things that come before it. Some of it is of course very intentional, like the Lynch aesthetics based on the movies. It's interesting to think about. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!
Love to see a remake someday now the new movie comes out next year
There are indications that a remake isn't likely, however we have community-driven mod projects and services that keep the game alive. I've linked a few in the video description.
All three faction come to Earth in A Christmas Tale but different reason
I think that's an actual custom map if I'm not mistaken. Or something similar to a holiday theme exists, likely made by Cm_Blast.
Should there be remastered of Dune 2000???
It would be a nice addition, but unfortunately there have been some signs that a D2k remaster probably won't happen. I think the closest you can get is the OpenRA implementation of the game.
@@SkorvionGames why is that?
@@LINJ638 In short, Dune games are now focused on the new movie/s and the Dune rights holders have stated that they are not interested in bringing back anything that is old.
@@SkorvionGames wat????
@@LINJ638 You can look up GOG.com's inquiry into a D2k re-release to confirm what I've said. That's all I have with regard to the classic RTS games at the moment.
Why no 3d ps one ???
This video focuses on the original PC experience, not the later PlayStation port.
FOR THE BARON
Harkonnen out!
For the house Atreides!!
For the Duke!
For me Dune 2000 represents a full circle of second gen RTS by Westwood. Basically first gen is Dune 2, second gen is C&C, Red Alert and Dune 2000 and third gen is Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2 and Emperor: Battle for Dune. C&C improved everything Dune 2 had and so does Dune 2000 improved from C&C even more. I know a lot of people like Red Alert, but ugh... Maybe Intelligent Games dev learned from developing expansions for Red Alert, so it also contributed for improving Dune 2000.
As you already stated, Dune influenced C&C which built upon that foundation in many ways. Then going forward, everything learned and experienced from previous games served to influence the upcoming ones. Dune could very well be considered a part of C&C, just without the name. Every game contributed to the next, so it is all part of Westwood's RTS legacy.
@@SkorvionGames They are the same. From C&C to Emperor if you played at least one game in-between, you know how to play the rest. Kinda sad how after perfected mechanics from Dune 2000 didn't translate to Tiberian Sun at all.
@@Deimos_Fresh We need to keep in mind that each game's development cycle had its own set of challenges, and each had different creative direction. That being said, I feel that each C&C and Dune game under Westwood is a valuable gem of a game to keep and value forever. Except maybe C&C4... they can have that one back.
@@SkorvionGames C&C and Red Alert remasters looks like a good deal so far. I have zero hopes for anything related to Dune 2000 or Emperor or even Dune 2. As for C&C4... I think a total reimagining with proper (no esports) RTS mechanics and a better plot for GDI, NOD and Scrin as a playable factions can save it from it's current position.
@@Deimos_Fresh The remasters will be here very soon, so lets hope they do well commercially so that the trend continues and doesn't devolve into monetization focused design choices like with other EA games. But from what I've heard, things have been going very good so far. Stay optimistic and supportive of the developers, but also always cautious around EA as the publisher and IP holder.
i could run Red Alert perfectly with my 486 dx4100 with 16 edo ram and 1 meg trident isa video card but that was the limited... when this game came out dune 2000 i really wanted to play it but just couldnt buy it you needed a Pentium 90 with a 2meg Pci card this was the era when i stopped buying pc games and gave up
Thanks for sharing. It's relatively easy to set up and play the game nowadays, so anyone interested can still experience it.
Man love House of odo's so much In dune i added in faction units like drones for the first time like a trike call ghost eater thst use stealth it's weapon is a acid gun that shoots corrosive balls of acid
I wanted to upgrade the saboteur with a drone called death crawlers which are spider drones that explode when they attach their selves on vehicles
A flying drone that lands into the enemy buildings and vehicles with EMP Call electrical storm as special
I even had new units and specials for house harkonnen and house atreides which we're cool too
The D2k modding and mapping community is quite active these days, so you might want to check them out if you really enjoy editing the game like that. I've put some links to certain community hubs in the video description, for anyone interested.
@@SkorvionGames am no game designer but at time it was a good idea on paper which I wrote it on using designs from Legos I tried but I wasn't very good at modding I should have revealed this in my first comment sorry
@@donright4492 LEGO is great, it's good to practice being creative. If you ever feel like checking out all the cool custom work people have done around the game, the links are there as stated. Enjoy Dune in your own way - this was just a friendly suggestion based on what you wrote above.
@@SkorvionGames cool thanks 👍
blue green red yellow missing so is coming in Dune: Spice Wars
Not sure if I understand your comment. It'll be interesting to see what the new games bring to the table.
I consider the gameplay with the units the strong point tbh, compared to Red Alert 3 which I consider one of the worst RTS. I mostly like the cinematics though, the actors are great in RA3, but the units are weird af and too much micromanagement, not to mention the weird way of getting resources and the need of an ally. Yep, Dune 2000 is still great!
It's sometimes hard to compare games from different times, as so much happens in between with the industry and players. But certainly, we can enjoy them for what they are and discuss how each comes into it's own form of legacy, with flaws and all. :)
What I miss about 90s gaming is the ambience music. There was a large emphasis on this style. And its not nostalgia.
It's interesting that there was seemingly more focus on now iconic melodic bits in such music, rather than more generic sounding universal tracks that can often be found in games today.
@@SkorvionGames I think there has been a fundamental shift in the gaming culture, besides the now larger demographic. It can sound exaggerated but i think its real, it is a totally different world now, even if the current indie scene is included.
@@zomp I sense something like that as well. There was once a time where I wondered how cool it would be if games and the creative culture around it would go wider and more mainstream, but as I got older and the more it actually did, the more I shifted away from it and went into lesser known games and communities. The focus on highly competitive, always social, and big industry (almost expendable) AAA-tier experiences didn't do much to keep things fresh and more enjoyable - just more standardized in certain ways. The effects of which connect back to your thoughts as well, I think.
Long live the fighters !
Long live the fighters! (raises Crysknife)
An online Campaign would be fun! So yoou dont fight the AI you fight others for the control of territory.
It's quite an old game, so that just wasn't possible back then. Although community mods and other fan projects can always experiment with such features if they have the capacity to support it! Your idea reminds me of Dawn of War and other games such as Battlefront 2, and how they did territory control to make things more engaging. Would be a fun concept to explore on a map of Arrakis, definitely.
its obvious after dune movie we will see new game. Maybe recreated Dune2 Sega version? :X
Another Dune game is already in production. However it probably won't be the type of game some of us were hoping for, and is likely being developed as an online service.
SIGH! 0:17 - I know that scenario way too well. So irritating!!
Yeah. At this point, I just consider it as part of the game's charm!
The accomplishment if this game goes mostly to Frank Herbert and Frank Klepacki.
Both the setting and music have done a lot for the game, but I would like to add that it is also important to acknowledge all of the effort that goes on in game development itself. Especially back then when things were not so streamlined and simple on the technical side of things.
No game is perfect, of course, but Dune 2000 is loved by many even today due to the results of all of the people who put their energy into making it what it is.
@@SkorvionGames I am not downplaying the contribution that programmers have to a game (they do the most work), but as a player you don't see that and it's not what you enjoy.
Fair point from the player's perspective, I understand what you mean. I felt like adding in a bit of appreciation for the developers. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
i remember first playing dune 2 on the genesis/megadrive and loving it and sinking many hours into it. then one fear i went on holiday and got a 3 in pack because dune 2000 but it also had wing commander prophecy and blade runner.
at the time i dident apprieciate dune 2000 for what it was and thought of it more as a red alert total conversion. blade runner blew my mind, wing commander was meh
Seems like you were very much part of that innovative era of games. There is much to appreciate, especially when the games are still fondly played to this day, even after some (seemingly) official abandonment. Thanks for sharing some of your thoughts with us here!
@@SkorvionGames back in the golden era of gaming. I miss those days it's just fps nowadays and games that demand infinity time
There are games and such experiences for everyone out there, just maybe not in the mainstream spotlight as often, as the world and game dev industry has changed a lot over the years.
i prefer this Retro/old class styled RTS games, like Dune 2k, Kknd2, C&C 2 and i still playing it since i was children
XD
In addition to C&C and Dune, I've played a lot of KKND2 as well. On that note, might even have something in the works for a potential future video. :)
Orders received.
Remember to watch out for worm sign!
@@SkorvionGamesYou could attack them not sure if you could kill one though 🤷♂️