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Game visual preferences vary from person to person.

Thanks for sharing a few of your thoughts and cool experiences with the game! And thank you for the feedback, good to hear you liked the video.

I would check the modding and mapping community for that. There have been some very cool developments in the past few years, custom campaigns and factions with many new units being one of them. I recommend playing "Summer's Solstice" if interested. Some relevant links are in the video description too. :)

It's music from the KKND 2 soundtrack. You can look up Survivor Theme 3, if that's the track you are referring to.

Good times, no doubt!

@@SkorvionGames Indeed you should check out Warwind and Warwind 2 those are super obscure but neat games

Just looked into the Warwind games, as I haven't run into them up until this point. Seems like an interesting vibe. Thank you for the suggestion!

The music certainly adds a well fitting vibe.

It is always nice to see more people find value in it, in their own ways, luckily even to this day.

Glad you liked the video! The old PlayStation co-op mode was magical for me as well, with many cool split-screen moments.

Good to hear! Keep on enjoying it!

Very nice to hear about that! Thank you for sharing this part of your Dune experience. I'm sure it must have been a ton of fun for you and your friends back then.

Yes, I feel that the heavy tank style Devastator is definitely a classic to appreciate.

@@SkorvionGames By the way I think that EbfD urgently needs it too. Next years should prove if it is possible, because there are attempts now to crack the 3d model format of the game. And who knows, maybe a mod tool package will be possible.

It would be amazing if EbfD got more tools and solutions for easier modding. The Dune 2000 community has already done wonders in the last few years, so I hope that progress eventually helps EbfD as well to a notably higher degree than what I've seen so far. I'm very grateful for all the dedicated and skilled modders we have out there doing their best to make the games more accessible and editable going forward. Hoping to see more good things in the future!

Thanks for sharing. It's relatively easy to set up and play the game nowadays, so anyone interested can still experience it.

Thanks for the fun comment!

Mission design can be quite difficult from the developer's end, as we have to stay aware enough from multiple perspectives on how it plays out, beside the technical aspects. I've played a bit of TW in the past as well, but haven't followed their development in a long while now. The map I featured in this video is of my own design and is part of a short series of missions I've made for fun. I haven't made any of them available for public download yet, so I unfortunately don't have a download location for you to try it out first hand at the moment. I too often have the urge save everyone I can in games in the right context, a bit of my good natured personality always leaks through there, so I get that part. Also, thanks for watching the video and for sharing some of your thoughts!

@@SkorvionGames understood. I should probably say I didnt want to throw shade at the TI team for not anticipating that. But I do really appreciate designers that consider the players choice to that level of depth. I've never gone further than sculpting maps or writing out plans for TS and RA2 maps but multiple choices and open paths were always at the heart of them and I think for more than half of the concepts I played with open ends to the mission was something I would have wanted. The triggers Westwood put into TS that allowed that were GOATed. The mission series that saw GDI take on the chemical missile plant with I think four variants of the actual mission depending on your choices is something I dont think I have ever seen replicated elsewhere and it still blows my mind that undertook that.

@@squishymusic9723 Map design is complicated, yeah, from visuals to gameplay to how it all works in scripts and the backend. All the more reason to appreciate the little things and when something feels good while playing. And agreed, it was really nice to see choices impact missions in the Westwood campaigns. I fondly remember seeing the different map starting positions and effects in certain parts of the campaigns. It added a bit of an extra cool feeling to the whole thing, making the mission selection geo map feel a bit more useful rather than just an aesthetic immersion type of thing.

You never know what the future might hold. Would be interesting to experience!

Good to hear that you love the game, its OST and the overall atmosphere! It's always nice to hear of others' appreciation for Dune 2000, so thank you for sharing your view of the game with us here!

Many of us do too!

Styles can influence each other, as everything is built either upon or just inspired by a selection of other things that come before it. Some of it is of course very intentional, like the Lynch aesthetics based on the movies. It's interesting to think about. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!

That's great to hear! Dune 2 was a really cool experience back in the day!

@@SkorvionGames It was my first exposure to the Dune universe, and it always kept a special place in my heart.

That's really nice. Glad you got to experience it and now have those memories and appreciation to keep onward.

Both the setting and music have done a lot for the game, but I would like to add that it is also important to acknowledge all of the effort that goes on in game development itself. Especially back then when things were not so streamlined and simple on the technical side of things. No game is perfect, of course, but Dune 2000 is loved by many even today due to the results of all of the people who put their energy into making it what it is.

@@SkorvionGames I am not downplaying the contribution that programmers have to a game (they do the most work), but as a player you don't see that and it's not what you enjoy.

Fair point from the player's perspective, I understand what you mean. I felt like adding in a bit of appreciation for the developers. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Seems like you were very much part of that innovative era of games. There is much to appreciate, especially when the games are still fondly played to this day, even after some (seemingly) official abandonment. Thanks for sharing some of your thoughts with us here!

@@SkorvionGames back in the golden era of gaming. I miss those days it's just fps nowadays and games that demand infinity time

There are games and such experiences for everyone out there, just maybe not in the mainstream spotlight as often, as the world and game dev industry has changed a lot over the years.

I labeled this type of video as an "inspirational" review, as I wanted to help inspire the feelings and drive I have for playing the game in others, all while covering it in a way that shows what the game is generally about, as well as to give the game in question an optimistic tribute. Looking back, I do think I should have devoted more time into highlighting some other aspects of the game that would balance things out a bit more in line with your feedback. Perhaps then it would have held up better as a review. I'll keep that in mind for the future, if and when applicable. Thank you for your honest thoughts and input!

Thanks for watching the video!

I recall reading something about that a long time ago, random comments here and there, but I don't think that I ever looked into it enough to verify anything. Whatever the case may be, the music sounds great in its own right (to my taste at least), and I'm very grateful for running into the tracks back in my childhood days as part of the game.

You're welcome.

Always nice to hear that the games are being played on modern systems!

You can always enjoy the classics you like so much. The community has done a nice job keeping the game alive. Thanks for sharing and I hope you have many more cool experiences with Dune 2000 in the future as well, so enjoy.

Everyone has a preference. Good to hear you enjoy the first game!

I never claim any game is perfect, as yes, your points are valid in some cases, but calling it trash is a disservice to all of the people who put effort into making it a reality. Perhaps they tried their best to make it as balanced and diverse as they could? We don't know, or at least I personally don't. But having game dev experience myself and often seeing how difficult such a project can be to properly develop, especially back then with limited tech and resources, I choose to be grateful for what the game is, and appreciate my time with it, flaws and all. With my limited understanding of the game's dev background. Perhaps modders have found ways to mitigate the issues you mention in the meantime. Tiberian Sun has its fair share of issues as well, but I love it just as much.

You had fun and enjoyed the game, so I think that's a very nice win regardless! Good to hear that you loved it!

Thanks for sharing your view. The game can't fully appeal to everyone of course, and might very well be less developed or polished in some regards compared to other games. Regardless, it remains a classic that many of us hold dear to our hearts for various reasons.

@@SkorvionGames Nostalgia is a strong feeling.

There is additional information in the video description, linking to the GOG.com store version of the game, but you should be able to find it on Steam nowadays as well.

Depends on perspective, but from a nostalgic C&C view in this case, then yes. Just more vibes and content to enjoy.

It's sometimes hard to compare games from different times, as so much happens in between with the industry and players. But certainly, we can enjoy them for what they are and discuss how each comes into it's own form of legacy, with flaws and all. :)

You can get the game online on GOG or Steam nowadays. So you can still play if you feel like it, regardless of your unfortunate CD situation. It's also nice to hear you're enjoying the soundtrack. :)

@@SkorvionGames haven't played it for about 14 years now 😁

Well, the game is always there in some form if you ever feel like revisiting it!

gonna play it sometime@@SkorvionGames

Hello again) Is Steam version broken, is it worth buying? @@SkorvionGames

Yeah. At this point, I just consider it as part of the game's charm!

, ONE FACTORY. All in order to send a fish into space, no doubt!

Seems like relevant video.

​@@lucidhooded4147Glad you think so. Thank you!

No doubt there are many other players who feel about it just as you do. It's a great soundtrack, for sure.

I'd imagine a side book on Ordos dealings might of perhaps been tied to Ix and Tleilaxu houses in some shady capacity as well, potentially. Acquisition of forbidden tech and all that being a fitting theme for Ordos doctrine. It's interesting to consider what might have been explored or expanded on in other media, as you say.

I think it might have to do with the initial approach. In competitive-focused maps, notably mirrored ones, the crates would likely add a randomness factor that could destabilize the intended balance and tournament-like fairness of the experience. In narrative-focused missions, crates are useful if the designer can set it to give a predetermined (accounted for) benefit, so as to avoid accidentally hindering or overpowering the player in that particular setting. So it depends on what a designer is going for. Do note however, that most people are not professional designers (in the community) and might often be improvising or learning as the go. But then again, if the wider community has passively set up a culture in which maps without crates are preferred or played more often, that might influence future map development and help propagate it as the default way of doing things. Any of these factors could play a part in what you're wondering about, but it's ultimately down to the map designer, their knowledge of how crates work, and the direction they want to go with the end-user experience. A development team might have different ideas amongst themselves as to what serves the game better, so compromises or inconsistencies might happen as well. I can only really speak for myself as to my own approach with certainty. I personally love bonus crates, but chose not to focus on them too much in my missions. For example, rather than a health crate, I opted to reward the player with a medic at one point. It's down to design preference, I feel, but also to making decisions based on what serves the experience better rather than what we personally enjoy editing in. Albeit, the way we go about doing that is often subjective, otherwise we wouldn't have any fun in designing maps. :)

Thanks! Nice to hear that you love the game as well!

If you ever feel like revisiting it, just check the link in the video description and enjoy. It's updated and playable even today. :)

@@SkorvionGames Thank you very much! One question though: I can't find the full soundtrack on UA-cam, just the themes. Where can I find, for example, the track that is played in your video at the very end (the one that sounds very "jazy")? I would love to listen to that full soundtrack again.

@@SkorvionGames Oh and by the way: I really loved your philosophical words about the getting along-thing. Never thought that philosophy and KKND 2 would be compatible. My tow brothers, woho are twins and often try to anger, provoke or tease each other, sometimes cite these words ironically: "Nein, manche kommen einfach nicht miteinander aus" (german version of "no, some groups just don't get along").

@@michaelm.4618 The soundtrack consists of 3 tracks per faction, so 9 in total. The jazzy one should be Survivor track 3. Here's a playlist someone compiled on UA-cam for easy reference if that helps a little bit: ua-cam.com/play/PLC10A4EDC7F7311F2.html

@@michaelm.4618 Ah, glad you liked that little philosophical addition! I do my best to pull out useful context out of any game and such experience, because I've learned a lot by thinking in various ways about the content and media that I experience, especially interactive ones like games, no matter how simple or just for fun it might seem at first glance. Value can be pulled from anything, with the right context and multi perspective thinking in mind. I'm very glad you found that a worthy addition, as it's something I like to pitch in any video if applicable. :)

Loved that functionality. Many fond memories of playing with others on a relatively small TV screen compared to today's standards. Very cool indeed.

Would be a welcome experience! Currently, the closest thing to a KKND remake that I can suggest players check out is OpenKrush.

​@@SkorvionGamesIs it more forgiving than the 1st KKND game? 🤔

I don't think I'm properly qualified to say, because I haven't played the first game enough to have a good sense of how they compare in that sense. So I'm afraid I don't have any useful insight on that note as of yet. To me, KKND 2 feels faster paced with units dying quickly, so it might be a more intense feeling than the first game perhaps.

Sometimes development plans change, other times those with power over a series' direction change. Production pipelines and project direction are unfortunately rarely ideal it seems. Either way, a lot of good has come out of the series as a whole, and there is still much to be enjoyed with what we got in the end. I'm very grateful for what I was able to experience with the games as they are.

We can easily consider it part of the experience!

The series definitely does have supporting lore, but it's held as secondary and is often a bit overlooked compared to the action and humor that is front and center. Thanks for bringing this point up, as the world of KKND is richer than some players might think!