The History of Hybrids | Diablo 2 Ith Items & Bugged Rune Words
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Many have wondered how Hybrid Rune Words were created on the Diablo II realms. In this video, we attempt to explain their origins by relating them to D2's most notorious set of hybrids ever: Ith Items. Surprisingly, the process was remarkably similar.
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This is probably the most info to ever come out about hybrids. It was such a close guarded secret for so long because of D2shops and whatnot. These items can still go for up to $250 online. You got a sub outta me bud, good job.
It was all pretty public even the method and kolbot scripts to automate the packet sending ect. Blizzhackers. RIP
@@diablofortress4401 i think for people who didnt use d2jsp or any bot platforms really didnt know a lot about stuff like this
Not even close, the information was very public on Blizzhackers (Also known as Edgeofnowhere for a while). Truly bugged and outright hacked items were a closely guarded secret like the ones you saw towards the end of 1.09d, like 6 socketed bugged Valors and the obviously 100% hacked and uploaded to the servers white item sets that used the Snowguard as it's color profile (Pure white with gold trim).
D2hackit and other tools were very common and the packets were very well known and at the time Blizzard did zero packet encryption and obfuscation to slow down packet inspection and reverse engineering. With D2hackit and its packet sniffer addon you could do an action and record the packets that were sent and received as a result. This meant you could use memory editors which were much less common at the time than they are now to alter packets and send things back knowing what they meant, it wasn't even difficult to do. Imagine loading up Cheat Engine and altering your health by having it search for changes in your health pool, this is almost exactly what we did back then.
If I remember correctly the way we were uploading truly hacked items back in 1.09d was by using cube recipes to change hacked items on open B.net and then recording the packets that were SENT to Blizzard. You would take that ID information and cube another item on closed and spoof the "received" packets as the item ID for the hacked item and boom hacked item. However if you left the game you would lose the hacked item, perming it was insanely easy as you just "personalized" the item through the quest and it would get a legit ID from Blizzard.
Of course you couldn't just do that and have it be accepted (You would get a realm down), you had to trick the server into accepting it by attaching the ID information in key parts of a fuzzed packet or group of packets. Basically when the server couldn't process the information it was receiving but it was thinking it was due to lag or a corrupted packet, the server tried to rebuild into something readable and at that layer there was no more protection for packet injection. Imagine it as the server asking for your driver's license and you hand it 50 and it says "WTF just happened?" and it just says fuck it the first one that makes sense I will take it.
This kind of stuff is basic cybersecurity these days to defend against and would be almost certainly caught by an IPS (Intrusion prevention device) but at the time there wasn't any code hardening and penetration testing going on.
@@dsmbilly3690 very informative thanks for sharing
Back in 2001, during patch 1.09, my college friends and I were big into D2, and Ith items were all the rage. We disliked bugged items, as we'd put a ton of time into leveling, MFing, and farming to gear out our characters for dueling. Ith items really seemed cheap and unfair to us. So, we started going around to public dueling games hunting down players using Ith items, taunting them into dueling my 99 barb (who had a legitimate .08 Vamp Gaze and .08 Arkaine's Valor, and was nearly unkillable).
They would inevitably lose the duel, mostly because they were just trash at the game despite their bugged items, and while they were running back to their body, my level 1 buddy who was also in the game lurking just out of sight of the dueling area (recall you have to be level 9 before someone can go hostile with you) would run in and drop an armor on top of their body. As the cheater approached their body, I would move at them as though I was going to cheap shot PK them before they had collected their body (considered very BM at the time). This would panic them, and in their haste they would spam click to get their body, accidentally picking up (and equipping) the armor we had laid on top of it just before clicking their body.
Because all serious duelers at the time filled their inventory with charms, the fateful click on their body without enough room to pick up everything on it would equip all of their gear except their armor, which would still be on their body lying on the ground. And being that these were the days where body popping was still a thing.....yeah. I would murder them instantly, and all of their gear would shower out on the ground. My level 1 buddy would grab all of it, including their precious Ith Silence weapons, and log out of the game. At which point I would inform them that their Ith items were being sold to vendors in a private game, and the rest of their gear was being kept as payment of their Asshole Tax for cheating.
I've never seen so many people go through the 5 stages of grief in such a short amount of time. I had people beg, plead, threaten.....it was glorious. And they deserved it.
I miss stories like this. D2 used to be its own society.
i would love a video where you also talked old bugged items like king jewels, occy rings, bugged eye of etlich, hexing charms, bugged zephyr etc
Great video btw! This was a blast down memory lane.
And how did they make the bugged zephyr bow ethereal? Lol
great quack items, white items too, wizard spike glove, pink rabbit belt, 64leech life amulet
Remember the bugged chance gloves that lowered your stats but gave you +1 to all skills every time you weapon swapped? Killing ppl on my lvl 9 sorc with telekenisis was hysterical
occy rings? I member :D
I bought my Ith 2H Sword with the Silence Runeword for my Whirlwind Barb :) paid 30sojs and killed it in the cow level haha! Fun times in 2002
Those were the days, sitting at a lab center with the boys running hell cows for hours
LAN*
ya iths bring back loads of good memories :D
@@pwnmeisterage Because the more SoJs you sold to the vendor the higher the chance of spawning a rare Diablo encounter where he was green and could drop a legendary charm that is why they became a value to players more so then most else..
@@pwnmeisterage Actually we switched to HRs.
I remember trading stormshield vs ith sword ( Stupid ith) back in the day with bugged tal armor with cham,white ring,Glv,construction ring occy ring etc. That was some good old time. 1.09 was the best years of my d2
I'm pretty sure I was the other person in that trade!
How cool is that.
I was so baffled when I looked up the runeword duress and found a duress with enigma properties. Thanks for clearing that up.
You missed what I thought was the most interesting piece of information about how Ith items were created: You would send a buy or sell packet to a vendor targeting the item ID of the runes inside of the sockets. The vendor code would "reach into the socket" and pluck the rune out, sticking it in your/their inventory.
Ith items were rarely stable. The actual creation process itself was a crap shoot as to whether you'd crash the server or create your item. You wouldn't see the item change as each of the runes was removed, and the item had to be refreshed before you knew you'd be successful. Some folks would exit/rejoin but I preferred trade/cancel because it gave instant feedback. IIRC, it took about 5-10 tries for each of the ones I made.
I wasn't very knowledgeable of the game mechanics at the time, so most of them weren't very good, but people used this one on Mercs until the rust storm hit: imgur.com/gJrww0K
Great video. Would love to see more deep dives. Particularly about the packet and vendor manipulation.
back almost 20 years ago i had a sick dueling druid with high swing speed and tons of leech life. Probably one of the very best duelers in us-east.. ith weapons changed all that and put a end to my desire to duel.
Programmer day job. I am beginning to understand why you have such legit stuff on the realms. Love the vids.
1.09 legends of all time - white ring, white gloves, occy ring, hex charm, constricting ring
Amazon jab duel is eternal duel you can see at that time
i had a sorc with wizardspike light gauntlets, and occy rings, .08 shako, .08 skullder's, imp shank boots, ethereal ist stormshield, and imp brow +3 sorc godly mf/pvp amulet that i ran MF in hardcore for, for like 8 years. that was my crowned jewel.
the rust storm removed all the ith's and hex charms, but it didnt remove any of my duped .08's. i did have to switch to regular SOJ's though
Thanks Cooley, I came here because I wanted to settle once and for all if my distant memories of Ith items back in the day were true or not. You really are cool. Also I can't help but notice you have a character named Iceman. You are truly an inspiration.
Oh memories.. Add a couple of Occu rings and a pair of Buriza boots and we're back to 2002 :)
Plus a bugged .08 valor.
Does anyone remember Bonesnap Boots and Pink Rabbit Slippers? I swear people think I'm crazy when I talk about those items.
@@GrizzlyMauls only boots i remember were imp shanks
I’ve never even seen a hybrid runeword. I’ve seen iths back in the day. I used to have occy rings and the duped items like Armageddon Slippers. I remember being able to dupe in patch 1.09 with a program that would create a fake item and would drop it to the ground but your character wouldn’t be able to pick it up but if you went to charsi and put the item in the imbue item spot, it would dupe the item. I remember making so many Sojs I traded 40 for 1 occy ring and that started my empire.
As a developer myself, I really appreciate finally getting to understand how these crazy items existed back then. Amazing videos man, keep up the good work.
This is a great explanation of it. I figured out the ITH naming thing when I accidentally opened a Seven Lances character in normal D2. But being single player, it didn't matter at the time.
The funny thing about this and all the commentors though, no one seems to say anything about Open BNet. No holds barred, anything goes. Even a "godly" ITH item would be crap comparatively - people were manipulating the base code to make weapons that had well over 100k damage on their own.
1.11 and onward had damage cap of about 83k. It would roll over to -83k if you exceeded this value. This cap applies per-hit. Any single attack, spell or tick can hit for up to 83k. Naturally the best damage output is achieved by dot effects such as poison or fire wall which hits 25 times per second (every frame).
There is a damage type in the game that ignoes any resistances and immunities. This is called 'burn damage'. It simply deals damage, no immunity, reduction or resist in the game can affect it. Only %avoid can, as you avoid getting hit entirely.
This knowledge is useful for mod-makers that often meddle with items, numbers, levels etc and can actually run into damage cap issues. Median mod routinely had this issue, as you can stack many damage modifiers there (e.g. spell damage is boosted by how much energy you have)
I've always been so curious how these items were created. As a software engineer myself, thank you for sharing the knowledge. Hexing small charm of immolation arrow was my first love as a 11 year old kid
Thanks, Nelson. Those charms were insane. My favorite from back in the day was the Havoc Mark Jewel! Man, don't I wish I woulda had the insight to keep some of those items around that were socketed with 'em...
Back in the day around the year 2000 or so there was a program that anybody could download for free where you could actually go in and change a lot of the attributes on weapons and things like that and then duplicate them in the game and share them with other people I remember one of them being called mouse pads map hack and that was basically just something that you could use to show you the entire game area and then also program the game to pick things up for you they had another program called ith maker and I use that a lot too but it was only good for about 2 years at the most before they rolled out and update that deleted all of that stuff and everybody that used it got their accounts banned and their CD Keys band but during that 2 years it was like you were living legends on the internet
Great video! I certainly don't have the low-level programming knowledge to understand this entirely...yet but my understanding was the PRE 1.10 era was waaaay simpler to hack:
The original ITH items were created by monitoring very closely what packets were sent when you sell runes to the vendor out of your inventory. And then figuring out which packets are tied to runeword item and selling those instead. This could be where the default ITH kicked in (I didn't know about that!). This could also be just one of several ways from back then.
Re: 400 STR gloves, white gloves/ white rings, occy & zon rings, con ring - these were all created and released in a way to fool blizzard and players into thinking items had "fused" (i.e occy rings) or items had somehow "escaped" from bad programming e.g con ring - was never enabled, and the 400 str gloves used a mod (changes at dusk?) that was never activated but remained in the game files. In reality though, I think this was similar to the dupe methods that followed (i.e 1.10+ dupe methods) where you desync from the server and the twist was that you could bring an OPEN bnet character and start sending packets saying "I'm in the game!", wait for the server to re-sync and keep sending the packets, and then drop as many hacked items as you'd like and collect them with the real bnet chars.
The most overpowered one in my opinion was Grief of Honor allowing you to have a grief rw at level 27...
This was a really good video. I recall these hybrid items being sold and still being sold on certain sites for big money. Some amazing stats on some and some odd pairings on another. Yet they were still very unique in each way.
As a guy who works in the IT industry, I should show my team of QA trainees this video as a case study to promote exhaustive testing and the fact that software is never truly free of defects as an inherent life lesson. Not to sound cruel or salty but these trainees always insist they finished their QA duties and become complacent over time.
Thanks, man! And you're right; testing will never reveal all the issues. That's why we see a lot of gaming companies nowadays doing "Beta Releases" on a large scale. No better way of testing than an actual "soft" release.
Honored to be a case study for ya! You could also show them some recent Zelda 64 speedruns (or even Majora's Mask). Great examples of some of the same glitches talked about here.
I saw them for the first time a few months ago and i was super confused. thx dude
Anyone remember the rare King's Jewels? I don't remember all the stats but I remember they gave +1 to skills and a bunch of other stuff.
Thanks for finally dispelling the origin of hybrids. I dont think they are neccesary for high level duels but they are definately broken for lld. Enigma on a lvl 30 character is just insane. You can also in theory make call to arms in an honor but ive never actually seen it.
I had a level 97 Amazon pre 1.10 that was decked out in bugged gear. Ith hydra bow, bugged valor (had massive vitality boost) and some 290 poison dmg small charms. Miss pre-1.10 D2
Oh I remember those days haha. All my chars had them bug items including horadric Boots :). It was a messed up time in LoDs history. Hacked gaze 4 socket stormshields 40/15s was everywhere!. Ooh yea forgot about the constricting ring that stole life from you!
got me a grief of doom zerk, beast of doom zerk & a fort of chains ap armor. its a very sick combo for ww dueling.
Would love to see some videos on the major patches blizzard has released. Nice info on this one btw
And 1.10 would be an extremely exciting patch to cover, too! What a game-changer (literally) that version was...
@@Coooley looking forward to it if and when you cover it
Would love to hear your take on 1.10, especially vs 1.09. It seems for many people 1.09 were the good old times. More single player oriented. I tried it and you can't buy mana potions? Wtf even in Diablo 1 you could buy mana potions.
I literally just stumbled across this channel because I was having a discussion with somebody about how I used to be super awesome back in the year 2000 LOL I used to have all of the Mad bug stuff I had ith weapons and bows. And I had one of my favorite items was a bugged hydra bow with six sockets and bugged kings eye jewels in each socket with dual occy rings. I used to piss so many people off and Duels. I remember that I spent about $200 purchasing these things for online gaming and I rolled with it for about 8 months and then all of a sudden they dropped an update that deleted all of my items and not just that they banned my account and I had to go and repurchase another copy of the game because my CD keys were banned
Nice! I've owned several 'ith' items on 1.09 and always wondered where they came from. Also, do you know how Buriza Armor came to life?
Anyone remember Armageddon fletch sorc ammy? Insane amulet that used to be THE sorc ammy.
Fucking amazing content.
Why has it taken 20 years for this kind of stuff to be brought to light, we've all heard of this stuff from other players, but so much bullshit was spun along with it.
Thank you dude
There are so much d2 pvm streamers. Im so happy to see a pvp streamer :D
Remember the waypoint dupe on east...circa 2002ish? I forget the exact year. But I remember staying up for like 3 days straight, creating mules for all the sojs we made. Good times
I don't remember that one, but I remember a vendor-sell dupe around that same time! This game has been put through the gamut by hackers throughout the years, that's for sure.
@@Coooley ahh you had mentioned sending packets several times and that's one I thing I remember about the way point dupe. I didnt know much about what was going on.. a buddy just showed up, wide-eyed and frantically clutching his entire PC setup at my front door and said we have to use my dial up..had extra AOL cds and everything hahah. A couple days later we emerged, haggard and dishevelled but grinning like idiots. We numbered in the 10s of thousands, sojs duped, all told.
lols the many fun dupe methods. The last “legit” non 3rd party program dupe method was in 1.11 with torch lag and bone wall spams to desynch the game and go crazy wit your duping lols. That was the same patch zbug archon forts and zbug spirit monarchs on west got made cause somehow NL 08 items were somehow glitched into ladder (still NO IDEA how that shit happen... and yes that was the one ladder season peeps got to play with 08 valks and wizzy gloves on they ladder chars and they could make unlimited supplies wit the torch lag public dupe method so if shit poofed, you just made 30 more copies 🤣🤣🤣)
Then the last actual none public dupe method was done the same like they used to make hybrids wit all those packet sendings. Sad they patched it all. Making hybrids and force roll backs where money makers... thats how people actually made legit rare eth weaps and all those fancy caster diadems and druid/barb helms with imbue quest and force roll backs till a desired rolled was received ... shit would takes months of roll backs so you had to be dedicated and a no lifer hahaha... so if someone figures out how to force roll backs again... thats the secret to making everything again
Wow I remember ith items from way back in the day but had no clue about hybrids... very cool video man, thanks for the info!
What about white ring/gloves, oculus ring, or constricting ring? Any idea how those were made?
Seems like you read minds.... What a coincidence that today I was reading lots of posts in Reddit about hybrid runewords and first versions (1.08 and something like that) of unique items.
As always, great work and so interesting video👌🏻
finally good history, like it. you are not causal you are THE PRO!
Nice, this answered my questions from nearly 20 years ago. Haha, will you make video like this explaining occulus ring and other "bugged" items as well? Or is the process of creating them simillar to this one? And duping runes/jewels?
I'm not 100% clear on how spliced items like Occy rings, white rings, wiz gloves, etc. were made just yet. But some dupe methods actually abused the same weaknesses as this... Trade window and Vendors. History of Dupes may be a video in the future!
The crazy man-made items were done with an import method. Made on single player editors and packets abused allowing a single player character to enter a b net game. Once connected with a closed character in game items dropped, permed, duped and sold. There was rumor that this person sat on crazy items and slowly leaked them into the economy at the time one by one keeping peoples jaws on the ground. It may have been UnquidedOne but not sure.
Should make a video on how and when Eth Bugged Arreat's were made. Some still linger on West NL realm I hear. 🤔
Nais seein my own footage back in those vids :d
1.09 I never had any ith items, but I do remeber having Occy sojs, white gloves and tons of hex charms.
"All the spambots are gone." Lol wat
there is still some spam. but it litterly was 100's of bots and messages per game from random accounts. it tricked to a few. so yes hes right.
actual spam bots before ua-cam.com/video/YlGklt4BSQ8/v-deo.html
Ill be keeping mine knowing this information thank you !
Great video! I was actually gonna leave you a comment on another one of your videos asking if you consider using hybrids in PvP to be within the GM ruleset, then I saw this pop up in my subbox lol. I guess the question still stands though. Do you, and most other players to your knowledge, consider them to be GM or not?
Curious as well, I'm just a casual dueler and will probably never have a hybrid but interested in this
Perfect timing! This is a two-parter, really...
1.) In High-Level Dueling, or HLD, (I sort of allude to this at the end of the video) but I do not see a huge problem with hybrids. They provide slight advantages that really only matter at the absolute highest level of play and, even then, only in very particular circumstances. The current HLD GM rule set ALLOWS hybrid runewords.
2.) In Low-Level Dueling, my feelings are mixed. Using hybrids allows for some insane new builds in LLD and even vastly improves some Tier 2 builds; that being said, some of them are massively overpowered (Grief of Honor, for example) and I can understand why the LLD community doesn't want anything to do with them. The current GM rule set for LLD does NOT allow the use of hybrid runewords.
Great question!
@@Coooley That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the feedback brother!
Can you do a video explaining the old bugged White Rings or "Wrings?" I owned a few and they were amazing. I believe it was around 1.09. How could they exist?
Your channel is awesome. I like that you can document some OG D2 knowledge that might otherwise be forgotten. I think a video on the history of duping would be cool. Does duping still occur?
The last dupe method I KNEW about went out when this was patched, as well. But I'd be surprised if someone hasn't cracked the code again. Funny you should mention that; I almost took this video in that direction, but figured I could cover a "History of Duping" in a different one. I appreciate your feedback, man!
I've made A LOT hybrid runewords during 1.13 (yes it was all using 3rd party tools). It required 4 Diablo2 at once, It was made by duping an item then entering the trade window, you had to leave the game with a character without breaking the trade screen, you then had to create another game then join with another character again then you were able to enter trade, and when you did the item had no runes at all (in the trade screen still). You had to then drop the item with the tool from the trade screen, you took it then you had to put the runes of another runeword in the same game to prevent it from disappearing.
Was all fun until they patched the dupe method.
Been playin since before LOD and never knew exactly how iths were made but i def remember them, what about those crazy uniques like +7 skill sojs, spirit rings or whatever i think?
A history of Hybris. Wow this sounds deep. Oh wait it's hybrids. Oh wait I always wanted to know that! Great job explaining, some expert knowledge there.
A friend and I discovered a glitch in D2 (no hacks or 3rd party software) that allowed the easy duping of gear. This was discovered just as Ith items and Occy rings started circulating - we spent a small amount of money to buy one of each type and turned it in to a nice chunk.
What was it
At the defence of hybrid runewords. there should be -- I never played Diablo 2,looking forward for my chance with the new version once it officially launches. -- If you have xy; yz; xz; yx runewords, it should be allowed to get the effects of many and show it in the name, if you for instance utilize the extra sockets, to make the xyz (2) or yxyz (3) It would create a new level of runewords, especially if using high level runes, what by itself are made of multiple runes. It would make the game more complex. Sorry if it has been adressed somewhere... Thanks for the content and making it available to us. UwU
MAN this is interesting, never knew this is how they did it. I thought it was MUCH easier.. :D
I remember the Rush Storm but more more back in time, the buri-armor, ocurings, horadric boots etc.
That 2016 patch also broke the dupe method.
What would happen if you personalize an ith item by adding your name with that act 5 quest
I actually owned a faith of ice hybrid bow.
God, I used D2hackit, packet sniffers, anything at all to find any glitches or bugs in that damn game for years. Couldn't figure out how to dupe items, so resorted to scamming SoJ rings to buy what I needed lol. Aw man, I miss those days XD
I know I'm late to this video but I clearly remembered having white rings and creating a level 9 assassin and going in on normal games to duel people. I couldn't tell you why I made an assassin or even did that.. Maybe for the lawls? But Jesus you zoomed with them on!
Do you have insight as to how items like Btals and 70/15's came to exist? Or bugged belt on eu, wiz gloves on west etc. Thanks
Hey Akeem! Although I do not know for sure at this point EXACTLY how those came into existence, A.C.E. and Stale Reference manipulation likely played a role in their creation, too. I've continued to collect stories and evidence on these items over the years and... if I ever do find a definitive answer... would love to make another video about those, as well
Dude you are the shit! I have been telling people about this shit for years and nobody understands. Cruel items were also a very interesting part of the lore
hybrids made new and stronger builds possible, in example Enigma of Duress offered + @resistances and 20fhr which can be very usefull to reach breakpoints or just being able to have more switchgear options (for pvp) available due to extra stats :)
Faith of Ice (bow) offeres more ias, therefore ur amazone could either go better hybrid (java / bow) or just use other items as u can reach the ias breakpoints easier.
but those were nothing compared to even older cheated items like Siggards Stealth Belt or Bug Tals Armor or eth bug bartucs and most expensive of all, bugged (glitched) eth chaos claw :)
also i remember roumers about an insane MF helm that would give even way more MF than enigma does.
back in the early days when starlooper was the #1 bot ^^
Im so old I actually remember the Ith items.
In all my years playing D2 never been aware of hybrid runeword existence, this is prime time content man keep it up!
My man! OG player here as well! I miss my 6 socket WF and 4 socket 1.08 valor 🤣 rust storm SUCKED! But it was funny that some items temporarily remained - MF ward bow and a couple others!
If you BM duel, especially LLD, then hybrids are a must.
Thank you for the educational video. I learned a ton.
I had a permed bugged tals and a few 70-15 Scs for a number of years. Do you know the reasoning behind those never poofing, even though they were hacked items?
The only ones that "poof" are the dupes (due to unique item IDs). For the same reason they can't really "cleanse" the server of hybrids, they can't easily get rid of bugged Tals. Ith Items were easy to identify, but battle.net can't easily plow through each different ability on an item; they can only look at certain "obvious" errors. For example, a Ring that is "white" should not ever drop in the game. Easy to erase. If an item is a runeword and has no runes in it, easy to query and erase. Items that look and feel like their real counterparts but have different abilities? More challenging to get rid of on a massive scale. I hope this helps.
I don’t think hybrids are make or break when it comes to pvp if you are skilled at pvp, but I do think that hybrids allow for a little bit of edge when two players of equal skill duel.
Well put, brother. My thoughts exactly. At best? A slight edge in an otherwise equal duel.
agreed and in that sense i think hybrids were cool. they were like special hacked items but they didnt really break the game. maybe unles you were lld
Back when I played, I vaguely remembered seeing an item called “stupid ith” which was also an op weapon that resembled the silence runeword. Do you know why it was called “stupid ith”?
Maybe a character named stupid personalized it from Anya
1.09 don't get the love it deserves XD
What mod are you using to pick difficulties in the character screen, have more then 8 guys on one acc, and have items listing their TC level?
Farcast, Autoaim Charger , Uber Leveling, Had to remake if you put in wrong stats/Skills, Had to Xfer by drooping on the ground or have a person you trust. MMBOT lol So many things.
great video dude. nice explanation
I rmb rockin the white gloves and ring just for the fun of it. Good fuckin timed
Nobody ever mentions Fleshrender BOOTS. All the stats of that worthless mace on a pair of light plated boots. For whatever reason, they were ethereal, which was fine for my bowazon. I do remember being on my way to grab Wirt’s leg and tripping over a cow corpse in Tristram and losing a dura on the boots.
Wow nice vid! comprehensive and interesting d2 history. taught me shit i didnt know.
I really want to see hybrids fixed, hope they patch these out of existence. I disagree highly about hybrids not being op. If you disagree then by all means use a normal runeword from now on. Clearly they're better and shouldn't exist.
@@pwnmeisterage Hybrid items are by definition bugs within the game and bugs simply break the game and unbalance the game. Just someone can bug an item doesn't mean they should. Also that it should exist to create harm within the balance of the game. I hope the bugs of D2 are removed and then move onto balancing other items and skills.
could you do a video about .08 ark valor or max socket bugged items please?
I personally liked hybrids. I like the idea of uniques, rares, and magical items being able to become runewords and gain from all the benefits if cleverly done.
I also think Larzuk should be able to socket however many sockets into an item you want. The hell quest should turn it into a service.
But I also don't like loot boxes, and although I'm not paying money to get items in ARPGs like D2, I am spending time. Paying for these items with a blank check in terms of time is depressing. So as I've gotten older I've played less and less. I've never made any of the high level runewords on ladder. I've never found a zod... so these thoughts are purely dreams...
That's why I think items should slowly get easier to find, like if 1 in 1000 unique rings are supposed to be SOJs, force an SOJ by the 1000th unique ring a player finds... maybe I'm crazy but eventually D2, like all other ARPGs have always become about RNG instead of rewarding skill or time spent. The gameplay is too fast to really be about skill, especially with max cast speed teleporting from off screen and no real active defense systems. Makes me sad that there are no new ARPG concepts out there, just a bunch of D2 clones...
Talk about going back in history, I remember that fuckery "ith" and all those 08 valk helms. You dont need that stuff to win duels unless your a tool and cant pvp your charc. Those items were for newbies that could only click the mouse once
The spam bots kept you companying during your 1-8000 magic find sorc mephisto runs
I own a spirit of phoenix and i feel very comfortable with it.
Same so op! Haven’t played in awhile. Hybrid runeword still exist?
loved my ith bow.
Grief of honor tho. That's a game breaking hybrid.
It's pretty vicious, that's for damn sure
Id really like to know if there are still ITH rune words on standard. Seeing it would almost be akin to seeing a dinosaur or some animal I though extinct from a by gone era. Would be really nice nostalgia trip without a doubt!!!
100% no not a possibility. The way we made iths was crazy you'd need multiple people on the void you'd run the program create and join a game with a silence or fury or lore, you'd then run packets which would sell the runes from the sockets to charsi. It needed multiple ppl and VERY specific circumstances to work right. How I know iths cannot exist anymore regardless of temp ban is like he said you cant interact with them, cant use here editor on single player to make one in 1.10, they just completely blocked it. They existed for a minute or 2 but you couldnt equip or use, only add runes to make a runeword which makes it no longer an ith and its perm.
i mean if you use hybrids in duels, its nl which means you also have to contend with .08 items and broken items that have been around for years
So in your dueling build videos you have a few of these.
How? I thought you cant make them anymore.
never knew about "hybrids".. I ofc knew all about the iths though. they weren't a huge deal though. I remember in softcore they were hailed as great bugged items that were necessary to be good at pvp in public games..! but they were mostly looked down on in hardcore mode. They definitely existed, but not as dueling items. typically the only Ith items floating around in hardcore mode were 6 isted silences...and the only characters using them were pindlebots. So yeah, they were looked down on. Like I said before, everyone could see what they were wearing, and people who dueled were GENERALLY well mannered. but there is a big difference between dueling and PKing. I can respect both sides though, just not TPPK, which was just a plague. One of my old bnet friends on hc, plato, actually spent most of his time PKing in cow runs, chasing people that were going for xp shrines... and he was 100% legit. had a baller ass rare amulet with teleport charges, and he got his fair share of ears. He was a real breath of fresh air, I loved that dude.
Idk if u remember me from bnet in the early 2000s. Was a sorc names fried chicken cjm. Used to play with rickrimes I think his name was. So weird I remembered that name and found ur videos by chance
What puzzles me is that there is an even more blatantly obvious and logical coding approach that would easily prevent any and ALL possible hacked items... simply check all items stats to see that they are even within the ranges and abilities that it is CAPABLE of spawning with. This would literally prevent any and all possible hacked or manipulated items except at least up to the point of rolling a perfect version of whatever item
man , this video was recoeded USING A FREAKING MICROWAVE
How dare you not mention Grief and Exile, THE MOST OP runewords of all time PERIOD!
PS: Also Crescent Moon, the secret Uber murderer.
I left D2 in 2011 due to the ad spam...glad I did...BNet back then was overwhelmingly corrupted seemingly to the point that Blizzard didn't care anymore. Let's hope that Blizzard can keep D2R's integrity.
What about the bugged items that are not runewords?
Trade window dupes broke everything.
I ve made a sorc especially to kill ITH bowazons and it worked... Well it kinda needed a bit of skill by teleporting twards them... but they had their vulnerability.. After the first Ladder it was shit
I like your videos man, thanks!
Had so many bugged, ith and hybrid. White just ruined it
Thanks Great Value Louis CK this was a great video
The craziest thing i ever saw was a open bnet armor called bane ash.
It had 18 sockets. I dont care if you lol-open-scrub... the creativity it must have taken to make shit like that is impressive
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