Indus Water Treaty: Past, Present and Future | Dr. Hassan Abbas
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2023
- What is presently contained in the Indus Water Treaty (IWT) is one thing, but how that content came into being is another - and seldom talked about. This session connects the history of IWT with current political situation and extrapolates future scenarios which offer both the opportunities and threats. Finally, the session would cover some recommendations and way forward.
About the speaker:
Hassan Abbas holds a PhD in hydrology and water resources from Michigan State University, in the US, and has worked in the water sector across three continents. In Pakistan, he was appointed as the first UNESCO chair for Integrated Water Resources Management. Currently, he is engaged in master planning for water supply and storm-water drainage systems for major cities in Pakistan.
India closing the canals on 1 April 1948 was not abrupt like mentioned by Dr. Abbas. It also had a historical context for example 1st war between India and Pakistan in October 1947.
That's OK. We All Know Pakistani Intellectuals Prefer To Show India In Negative Lights To Prove Their "2 Nation Theory".
So, Let's Ignore Those.
Correct
I can understand India closing some canals but main flow of the river cannot be stopped else there would have been floods in Indian side.
@@sarvesh704
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass belongs to Balochistan and furtile land belongs to Indo Pak Punjab so the beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belong.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass or Indian gov sell Coal of Bastar to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country or state.
So water is not just the freebies things but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
You can't say that we have been beneficiaries for years by indus naturally so we don't need any treaty. Similarly , it is also applied on depence of Kashmiris and Indians to Punjabi resources and trade routes to central Asia for Indians people.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 90% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
The third things is flow of wastage of Indian side to Pakistan. So it's obvious things. Because of slope towards Pakistani Punjab. We can disscus and give repression to Pakistani gov. Similarily , Pakistani gov should also pay for Crops Residue burning because because the western wind push it towards Indian Punjab and Delhi states.
So first of all We should sit together and talk with mutual respect on indus water treaty honestly in all perspective including climate change and your wastage issues too because glaciers are melting very fast.
So I agree that India water treaty is a fraud treaty , Indian gov should reject it as far as possible.
The kashmiri people should be paid money by lower riparian India and Pakistan on the basis of consumption of water on the individual basis.
The main flow can also be diverted to make more dams on eastern side of rivers and it would not have been any chance of flood .We can do same things on indus as China have been doing on brahmaputra.
@@sarvesh704 Main flow was never stopped, because, India did not have the mechanism to stop the main flow. For that you need dams and reservoirs, which were not yet built at that time.
This Man is Graduated from Labbaik ya Rasool Allah university. 😂 🤣
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Gala kaato bum fodo university😂
Harr chiz mai ek hi baat nikalti hai..."daro..india tumhe kha jayega"😂😂
He is our favourite, His Highness, PDF File, Four-Feet Modmod (SAW- Saudi Arab Wale)..
#Om_Hu_Akbar 🚩
As usual, play always the Victim Card 😉
Hence the name black hole
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass belongs to Balochistan and furtile land belongs to Indo Pak Punjab so the beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belong.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass or Indian gov sell Coal of Bastar to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country or state.
So water is not just the freebies things but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
You can't say that we have been beneficiaries for years by indus naturally so we don't need any treaty. Similarly , it is also applied on depence of Kashmiris and Indians to Punjabi resources and trade routes to central Asia for Indians people.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 90% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
The third things is flow of wastage of Indian side to Pakistan. So it's obvious things. Because of slope towards Pakistani Punjab. We can disscus and give repression to Pakistani gov. Similarily , Pakistani gov should also pay for Crops Residue burning because because the western wind push it towards Indian Punjab and Delhi states.
So first of all We should sit together and talk with mutual respect on indus water treaty honestly in all perspective including climate change and your wastage issues too because glaciers are melting very fast.
So I agree that India water treaty is a fraud treaty , Indian gov should reject it as far as possible.
The kashmiri people should be paid money by lower riparian India and Pakistan on the basis of consumption of water on the individual basis.
The main flow can also be diverted to make more dams on eastern side of rivers and it would not have been any chance of flood .We can do same things on indus as China have been doing on brahmaputra.
@@HimanshuShukla0802 Rivers don't belong to political boundaries - from source to delta a river is complex and connected ecological integrity. It only belongs to the landscape where it flows. Both countries, and their people, must understand this philosophy of respecting and managing a river. Both countries must shun outdated political and governance models of the past and embrace modern concepts of sustainability and cooperation. And most important, it is time to think above prejudice for a better future of coming generations in both countries.
@@2537Hassan what follow the rules and regulations when one side wages four wars again and again .. I don't think so .
@@2537Hassan We Indians will tell what belongs to whom.
Now we are the most populated nation on earth.
Hum Rules Banaayenge ab.
This shows intellectual level of this man😂
Dr. Hasan Abbas is the alumni of Ya rasool ya labaik university Peshawar....
Respect 😂
This is a wonderful platform. Please get someone who is not deluded, one sided and can speak the truth unlike Dr. Abbas.
For the uninitiated, the Indus water treaty gave 82 perc water of the total Indus water system consisting of six rivers(Indus, jhelum, chenab, beas, satluj, Ravi) to Pakistan and only 18 perc of the same to India, waters of Indus jhelum and chenab were completely given to pakistan despite the fact that four of these six rivers not only originate in India but play a major role in livelihood of the people. Such biasness towards a lower riparian state was incentivised through world bank because US wanted to woo pakistani political class in 1960s.
States like Punjab, haryana, Rajasthan, Jammu and Kashmir, Delhi as well as western UP which combines to form a region equal to pakistan both in area and population were given only 18 perc of water from these rivers while pakistan with similar area got 82%. This resulted not only in deep ecological problems but political as well. The water table in state of punjab and Haryana dropped drastically, agriculture became tough and water sharing agreement between states started getting troublesome because there was not enough river water for rejuvanation of water level since canals and river interlinkings can't be done acc to IWT.
New storage dams and energy projects were also not allowed which could help sustain the farming and ecological needs of northern Indian states. This lead to a new wave of political uprising since there is not enough water for Punjab so how come they share it with Haryana and Rajasthan. Projects like SYL, RILP etc remain halted.
The treaty needs not only to be relooked at but important ammendment should be made so not make people from one side feel cheated and avoid future conflict and war between two states. Both countries needs to sit down, ammend and divise plans to more sustainably share and utilise these waters.
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the first beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
Rivers don't belong to political boundaries - from source to delta a river is complex and connected ecological integrity. It only belongs to the landscape where it flows. Both countries, and their people, must understand this philosophy of respecting and managing a river. Both countries must shun outdated political and governance models of the past and embrace modern concepts of sustainability and cooperation. And most important, it is time to think above prejudice for a better future of coming generations in both countries.
@@2537Hassaniit cant coperate with madrassa there is no obama osama patnership.
@@2537Hassan Yes Rivers dont belong to political boundaries but the agreement to share the resources of river should be fair and equal, it should not cheat people from one side whether it is lower or upper riparian state.
Also Quite nice of you to say all these big words of embracing modernity and sustainibility etc when its your country who is getting a better deal out of the treaty.
Say that to people of Northern Indian states who with a similar population and area got only 18% water from the whole Indus River system, say that to the farmers deprived from river water which only originates from their land, say that to people of Rural Rajasthan who never got a water canal they deserved, say that to people of Haryana and Punjab fighting over SYL.
It is better that Pakistan understands why ammendent in the treaty is required, the problem is taking centre stage in India and sooner or later India will be forced to act on its own.
@@a141tho2 Please suggest something in the light of currently prevailing international norms as I mentioned earlier. Nothing short of that will work for the future of Indus Basin.
International court of justice me Pakistan case le ja sakta tha, lekin nahi leke geya..
😄 Chalo Jahil qoum ko bewakoof bana sakte ho.. Google baba ko nahi.. Lage raho Chacha. Best of luck for your water future
Ye 1990s me ji rhe hey , jaise fake history inhone print ki thi , abhi bhi vhi kr rhe hey.
Pakistan needs generate more of truthful and genius persons like him. Hats off to the explanation of such complicated topic. You are the best❤.
It’s time to close or renegotiate the treaty
Not right now, learn from China(salami slicing strategy, keep taking resources little by little without starting a conflict).
Pakistan is struggling rn, India should just keeping building small infrastructure silently, start utilising top 3 river waters. Pakistan won't start a conflict in their current condition for 1-2 small infra.
Keep building it, when Pak becomes strong or have other countries support, just sign a deal, pay em some money n it's over. In future they can't ask India to destroy those Infra, India can play victim "1.5 billion people, no water to drink, harvest,....).
@@mr.miller2592 Rivers don't belong to political boundaries - from source to delta a river is complex and connected ecological integrity. It only belongs to the landscape where it flows. Both countries, and their people, must understand this philosophy of respecting and managing a river. Both countries must shun outdated political and governance models of the past and embrace modern concepts of sustainability and cooperation. And most important, it is time to think above prejudice for a better future of coming generations in both countries.
How come a small country get 3 rivers exclusively. Time to renegotiate treaty. Pakistan deserved only 1 river
@@anishsingh7284 As the treaty was negotiated, it was between 1 unit of India (east Punjab) and one unit of Pakistan (west Pakistan). This is the official language of the Treaty. West Pakistan was 10 times bigger than East Punjab.
Besides this, the notion of 'who gets which river' is wrong in the first place. Water belongs to the rivers and not the political jurisdictions. Ecological integrity of the rivers should have been maintained and should be restored for future cooperation between the two countries.
I'm also civil engineer I don't know what kind of engineering they are teaching in Pakistan we take evrything in consideration.. it's not only about project .. about engineers it was false thing to say ..I'm a civil engineer and I know why and what are we doing .
If you know everything why are you watching a Pakistani YT channel? Coz your country is extremist and would arrest anyone if such program is arranged in an open manner.
Sir if u r a civil engineer,, its a different area of study,,
@@saeeddeen7304really??
Then who builds the DAM Politicians?? IT professionals??
You forgot to mention : 22:00 Inda stopped canal water as response to pakistan invasion of kashmir. Its called selective amnesia.
Pakistan has got 80% and India 20% with the provision that the rights of India in western rivers to be protected. India has also right to use western rivers for non consumptive use.
This is the most absurd stat used with respect to IWT. It measures Indus at Attock with 93MAF of flow. Out this 93, not less than 20 originates from India, rest it originates from glaciers in Pakistan, Hidu Kush Mountains and Afghanistan. By no means India can draw that water and even the small percentage of Indus in its headwaters in IOK, it is next to impossible to draw that water towards Indian Punjab given the difficult mountain ranges in between. So the 93 MAF which neither passes though India nor can be withdrawn by India is condescendingly added to the total water to make India's %look small. Else it can be said that Pakistan, out of great generosity, gave complete Ganga and Yamna to India. Lets be real and understand rivers and geography their geography - above politics and prejudice.
@@2537Hassan bebkuf lag rha hai mujhe tu....... Kuch to soch samaj ke bol... Pakistan population only 22 crore nd india 140...total river 6...3 river all india.... After 3 mai se only 20% india ko... Ye kha se justify hai... Nd india water root change krne ki bat kar ni rha.. Hai kashmir mai 2 dam bnane hai... Jo Pakistan ki bjh se roke hai... Us water se bijli generate krni hai... Hydro power....... Jisse loca kashmiri ko he benifit hoga....... So itni si bat samaj ni aati pakistaniyo ka.... Water ko..... Punjab side divide kiya nii ja skta but... Equally divide to ho.... Or jha tak ho skte... Usse local public ko benifit diya jaye
Don't play victim india knows they will never be able to take that water that's why they did that in treaty we gave u permission to make dams and we will take ur dump and gave u permission to play with nature and gave u some more water
Wait, so, India, catering to a much larger populace, let go its demand on western rivers and Pakistan, whose agricultural loss would have amounted to just 5% by forfeiting its claim on the eastern rivers, didn't agree to the formula and somehow Pakistan is the victim here??
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the first beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
@@HimanshuShukla0802 Thanks for the detailed explanation
@@HimanshuShukla0802 Rivers don't belong to political boundaries - from source to delta a river is complex and connected ecological integrity. It only belongs to the landscape where it flows. Both countries, and their people, must understand this philosophy of respecting and managing a river. Both countries must shun outdated political and governance models of the past and embrace modern concepts of sustainability and cooperation. And most important, it is time to think above prejudice for a better future of coming generations in both countries.
@@2537HassanFCK Pakistan......We do not want anything with a beggar and terrorist nation !
Why do you care for Sindhu water? You only need ZumZum water per Khalifa Al Lundoni Chiknah Jinah & EkBall Sapru CashMeri.
this man is so intelligent that he needs Ganga's water. Also, he doesn't need a dam for his country. Also not to talking about the 20% - 80% divide.
Future is that IWT is going to end.😂
The most interesting lecture I have ever found on UA-cam about water, especially about the Indus water treaty.
USA was an ally of Pakistan and the way this man is narrating the story it seems India-USA more closer to each other than USA-Pakistan.
As usual this man is explaining how the whole world was helping India against Pakistan.
What was the arrangement for sharing the Water among Indian Provinces and Princely states Before Partition ?
Be whatever we dont care about any treaties we will do whatever in our interest
If Pakistan has so many issues with treaty they should renegotiate it
Pakistan me bahut gyani log hai 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Jis Gyan ko, Google baba pe search karne se Propoganda Unlimited bold latter mh likhhke aa jate hai... Kashmir plebiscite treaty nd indus water treaty
Ise hi logon ki vajah se Pakistan tarakki kar rha hai 😂😂😂😂😅😅😅
_Hum To Mazloom Hain. Hamare Khilaaf Puri Duniya Shaazis Krti Hai_ Attitude.😂
If 50+ years old intellectual has this attitude, It means propaganda that pak establishment did initially has become part of their gene.
@@KararaJawaab Raa ki shaazis😂😂
Nope.
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
@@HimanshuShukla0802 Rivers don't belong to political boundaries - from source to delta a river is complex and connected ecological integrity. It only belongs to the landscape where it flows. Both countries, and their people, must understand this philosophy of respecting and managing a river. Both countries must shun outdated political and governance models of the past and embrace modern concepts of sustainability and cooperation. And most important, it is time to think above prejudice for a better future of coming generations in both countries.
I like the conversation, irrespective of what treaty has to offer. Also agree to let rivers flow uninterrupted. Get some concession from pakistan for not interfering in india affairs . Also jointly produce dams and generate electricity to be shared by both countries.
I find discussions interesting. Instead of dams Pakistan should explore the option of diverting river waters through pipes. Those rivers are perennial.
At the most Pakistan might have to build some small reservoirs near the human population to store the water.
This way we get to keep 100 percentage of Eastern Rivers and 7 percentage of Western rivers.
This is indeed a win win formula.
We want 100 ℅ water now😎😎
Classic Victim Card theory based on flimsy stories questions that remains answered 1) why pakistan agreed to so called stand still agreements 2) why pakistan not disputed construction of dams in india 3) why pakistan did not construct its own dams 4) why pakistan did not go to international courts in past and even now .
Ganga and Jamuna is a bad arguement since they do not arise, flow
or drain in Pakistan.
From the Indus System of Rivers, India got nearly 41 billion m3 at 16% whereas Pakistan got nearly 218 billion m3 at 84%.[7][50] However India can use the western river waters for irrigation up to 701,000 acres with new water storage capacity not exceeding 1.54 billion m3 and new storage works with hydropower plants (excluding permitted water storage under unlimited run of the river hydro projects) with storage not exceeding 2.0 billion m3 and nominal flood storage capacity of 0.93 billion m3.[13] These water allocations made to the Jammu and Kashmir state of India are meager to meet its irrigation water requirements whereas the treaty permitted enough water to irrigate 80.52% of the cultivated lands in the Indus river basin of Pakistan.[51][52] The storage capacity permitted by the treaty for hydropower generation is less than the total annual silt that would accumulate in the reservoirs if the total hydro potential of the state was to be exploited fully.[citation needed] Pakistan is also losing additional benefits by not permitting moderate water storage in upstream J&K state whose water would be ultimately released to Pakistan for its use and avoid few dams requirement in its territory. Ultimately, J&K state is bound to resort to costly de-silting of its reservoirs to keep them operational. Whereas Pakistan is planning to build multi-purpose water reservoirs with massive storage for impounding multi-year inflows such as 4,500 MW Diamer-Bhasha Dam, 3,600 MW Kalabagh Dam, 600 MW Akhori Dam, Dasu Dam, Bunji Dam, Thakot dam, Patan dam, etc. projects with huge population resettlement.[13] In case of any dam break, downstream areas in Pakistan as well as Kutch region in India would face unprecedented water deluge or submergence as these dams are located in highly active seismic zones.[53]
However, India derives military advantage out of IWT as its scope is confined to the Indus system of rivers (both eastern and western rivers) basin area located in India and also in Ravi and Sutlej basins located in Pakistan per Articles II(1 to 4) and III(2 to 3) and the IWT deals only with the sharing of water available/flowing in Indian part between Pakistan and India.[54] As per the IWT, Pakistan bombing / destroying dams, barrages, power stations, etc. located in Indian part of the Indus system of rivers is violation of the IWT which can lead to abrogation of IWT.[55][56]
Best will be if India pays a Pakistani F 16 Pilot $5 Million to attack our own Dam so that we can abrogate this treaty.
And we can hep him land his F-16 in India and we'll protect him and say that he's passed away.
For the first time I’m listening to some reasonable discussion among some learned gentlemen from Pakistan
Abbas saab emotional Ho rahe hai _Need to keep balanced views
Greetings from Mumbai. Guest speaker comes out as learned, well informed, articulate and future looking person. Without contesting his comments on the past & present on Indus treaty ....what was i interesting future picture.
We can't undo the past, but we can learn from our past and also how others have tackled water sharing.
Only way forward both for India & Pakistan is to live peacefully, share water, drains, rivers for benefit of people on both sides...keeping environmental concern at top of list.
World laughing at both who are squabbling like immature kids. Fully endorse views of the guest to develop inland water ways through Indus etc...si India can use them for transit exports from hinterlands like Punjab, Haryana in India to rest of world. It's win-win situation. Pakistan can invite EU, Americans to invest . Great idea.
Let's pray some bold, creative, out of box thinking leader emerges to take such positive decisions . Regards
World Bank, China and local corrupt governments promote large dams, which are ecologically destructive and economically unsustainable. Large dams are the main drivers of corruption in governments. Following are the alternative minor irrigation methods, which are less expensive, distributed and economically sustainable. Indian subcontinent gets a lot of rain during rainy season. It should be stored smartly to last for the whole year.
1. Revive and build tanks, lakes and ponds.
2. Instead of building dams, implement Solar Powered Lift Irrigation, which can irrigate lands throughout the rivers on both sides of the river.
3. When we extract ground water through borewells, we should recharge them with recharge pits.
4. During flood seasons, using high powered water pumps, pump the excess flood water to lakes, ponds and charge ground water in upstream ground.
Dr. Sahab, Excellent talk.
India can withdraw from IWT,Pakistan can do nothing
Sir indus is ours as much as it flows in our land
Nope.
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
@@HimanshuShukla0802 Rivers don't belong to political boundaries - from source to delta a river is complex and connected ecological integrity. It only belongs to the landscape where it flows. Both countries, and their people, must understand this philosophy of respecting and managing a river. Both countries must shun outdated political and governance models of the past and embrace modern concepts of sustainability and cooperation. And most important, it is time to think above prejudice for a better future of coming generations in both countries.
@@2537Hassan
He is a dumb Dinduu who don't understand all those 'faaarin' terms. He believes in all kinds of lies which they learn from their religious terror schools run by Dinduu militias. He doesn't know that his country was never in existence before British made a hotch potch mini empire in the South Asia.
@@2537Hassan We don't care about War Now. Ladhna Hai Toh Ladhlenge Aur 4 Country Mein Paksitan Ko Divide KArdenge Iss Baari.
India will take at least 50 % share of the waters, nothing less than that.
Anyway Paksitan wastes so much water because of mismanagement.
Thanks for the subject matter.
Relevant for India and Pakistan.
We in India getting Pakistan perspective. 82 % water going to Pakistan. This needs to be addressed by India and Pakistan through discussion.
Insightful analysis
Yaar yeh kaya zabardast treaty hai- I agree
Good initiative
Why does it not have subtitles ? You should put english titles in this video .
Pakistan 80% | India 20% - The water distribution of indus water treaty. Vo kaun batayega? Saara paani samudra mein baha detey ho.. kuch bolne layak nahi ho tum nikammey.. just play the victim card.
Hassan Abbas has not spoken about hydroelectricity generation from Dams.
Nice subject 🎉
Did India really go on the backfoot, or was it India's stand that issues should be resolved bilaterally without the involvement of the third party. India firmly believes in the lesson of two cats fighting over food and the monkey wanting to help them. Unfortunately Pakistan cannot take advantage of the rich lessons of Panchatantra Fables. And Pakistan has always been the younger pampered, entitle child who always runs to an elder to get his demands met. Other he will just sit in the corner and sulk.
Even after getting 80% of water share pakistani still consider this treaty as so unfair then don't worry India has already send notice to pakistani IWT authority to invoke this treaty itself....lol
Is your enginres r highly compitant to plan, estimate, implement irrigation Dams? One your chief justice vollevtedo
Victim card is processing
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Allow the water flow up upto the tail fill all the reservoirs built in the way aligned to all the major cities on the river banks make the water to swell upto a navigational level and enjoy peacefully
One of the best lecture i have ever listen
1:07:55 "a dam is being dismantled every week"
Koi source nahi hai😃
Sir U YOURSELF SAID
ENGINEER'S R BOUND WITH PROJECTS
HISTORY IS UR PASSION OR HOBBY
Dr. Hassan Abbas's concluding remarks in the last 4 minutes are a blueprint for us to work on. The question answer session of 40 minutes was very interesting. Much of the early part was covered in a book by Ijaz Hussain, "Indus Water Treaty", but Dr. Hassan adds a global angle to it, analysing USA cold war interests and IBRD funding.
12:35, treaties are there to protect low riparian, what if low riparian 4 times attacks high riparian?
Mitha mitha gap gap kdwa kadwa thu thu.
22.29- sir due respect, Pakistan and
Geneva Conventions.
Great n insightful talk
Dr. Hassan saab, I like your video… it is enlightening. Though I am an Indian, I watch blackhole videos to educate myself and they are absolutely fantastic.
Accha Porkistani
Well bhai if you are indian
There are many misinfo in this video so please cross check after consuming any Pak media
Paani dariya mein behne de. 😂😂.. Fools dont know how to use water efficiently says like this. Issiliye to aaplogo ka paani samunder mein jate hein.
You are presant with Ayub khan jo bit gai so bit gyee see prasat
Conspiracy theories as usual from Pakistan
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the first beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
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100 me se 99 beimaan
Jhooth bolna jinka Iman
Al takiya jinka Islam
Vo h Pakistani musalmaan
Sense ni hai kya kisi pakistani mai india 3 river se 140 crore population ko... Provide krta hai... Electricity , water and other..... But pakistani just 25 crore population nd 3 river...... Imagine kro.... Kha se ye right hai........ Bebkufo ki trh kuch be bol dete ap log.....
I think Pakistan will also agree to divide water according to river Basin Population and Irrigable land on that Basin and divide the water on the regional Basis not on National basis.
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Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the first beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
@@anythings3946 Jis bare mai tumhe ya kisi Pakistani ko knowledge na ho... Uske bare mai bat he ku krte ho.... Fir bolna be wrong hai......
It's waters & not water treaty
This video has some hugely erroneous facts. Key one is that the topography of western rivers cannot be changed and is too costly. A cost of US$ 6 bln was made for the Kishenganga tunnel. However that was was than US$ 200 mln. So diversion of water is possible. Storage of water is limited by treaty so India are constrained to make all dams as run of the river.
We dont want any treaty just wait for some years!! We have your life line in our hand 😂😂😂 just wait till 2030😂😂😂
Excellent session full of knowledge thanks Dr Hassan Shahib
finally some India bashing, at least this should get the attention of some Pakistani audiences.
I listened full session,
This man is only pointing out India's mistake but he is not critisize the failure of Pakistan about not construct dam for their side,
The pakistani people must read I. W. T. b4 making any judgment. 🙏
This so called expert is either misinformed or deliberately telling lies. Pakistan has no right under common sharing to waste the water which it has been wasting after the treaty. secondly India ,has the right to make run of the river damms on western rivers upon which Pakistan raises frivolous objections. That is why the treaty should be revisited. Pak has no money to make dams but objects to India making upon it. Pak does not deserve a drop of water due to its actions for the last 75 years.
Pakistan is full of such people who can argue for hours on victimhood and will pull out such data which although wrong and twisted but still able to convince their audience who has no idea what they’re talking about It was one such a man who made pakistan with such arguments like two nation theory
I agree with Dr. Abbas, Pakistan should press to review or reopen Indus Water Treaty😅
Trains full of dead bodies of Sikhs and Hindus were entering in Indian Punjab from Pakistan everyday and in return Pakistan was expecting free flow of water from same Indian Punjab. Though water supply was never stopped in actual only threat was given.
Dr pervez Hoodbhoy sir Ancient gandhara civilization pe ek lecture lijiye at that ancient universities me padhne ke liye Syria,china ,Korea,singhapura , Tibet se students padhne ke liye ate the
Disappoint Ho Jaoge.😂
There was no Gandhara civilization. It's a culture in the current Punjab region. There was no ancient universities there too.
@@hawkingdawking4572 Fir Agya Tu. Sudhrega Nhi. Sab Kuch Tod Kr Bolte Ho Ki Kuch Nhi Tha Waha.
Sare Non-Muslims Ko Maar Kr 100 Saal Bolna Ki Koi Dusra Mazheb Tha Hi Nhi Duniya Me.
@@hawkingdawking4572 takshshila ( Taxila ) university Ka naam suna he kya sir.
Chinese pilgrims like Faxian ,Xuanzang,Yijing ancient India aae the university me padhne ke liya or inone hi budhisim spread Kiya china me
@@satyajeetbajwa
It was a Budhist school of learning and not a university. The first university was established in Bologna, current Italy.
objection on the statement timing 21:00, it was totally bullshit negligence of a Punjab representative signing the agreement. I will translate and share that chaos & agreement details on this forum.
You are making it sound as if India was only interested in creating a drainage system. Tge fact is that India has been generous and many in INDIA blame Nehru.
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the first beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
@@HimanshuShukla0802 Rivers don't belong to political boundaries - from source to delta a river is complex and connected ecological integrity. It only belongs to the landscape where it flows. Both countries, and their people, must understand this philosophy of respecting and managing a river. Both countries must shun outdated political and governance models of the past and embrace modern concepts of sustainability and cooperation. And most important, it is time to think above prejudice for a better future of coming generations in both countries.
The Indus Water Treaty needs revision to modify its current one-sided distribution of water resources - that is about 80% in favor of Pakistan. India has honored this agreement despite being forced to war or subject to terrorism by Pakistan on multiple occasions. Time has come when India needs to take better care of its northern states through which the waters of the Indus and its tributaries pass where water tables have been falling. The fact that Pakistan has failed to invest resources on flood-water control and is still subject to the vagaries of climate in terms of producing enough food to feed itself demonstrates that Pakistan has not given priority to treating water as a precious resource that needs good attention and management. Indian farmers should not be penalized for this mismanagement by denying them water.
Leaving the political aspects aside being an Indian engineer who is fascinated with Geography, I agree with all his views on the social and geo- economical aspects of Rivers in general.
Sir, In response to the first question's answer you say "neither it is India's water nor it is Pakistan's water. Water belongs to the river where it is flowing. The the question is Can India use the whole water for consumption even if what is flowing to you is consumed wholly in India before it reaches Pakistan?. Will you agree to that? No. Because Pakistan also needs water that is why this percentage is decided for both the countries. Therefore do not make fool of your people's & refresh your knowledge. Secondly The peoples of Pakistan should also ask Tough questions from these guy's who sit here & try to become expert on such an Important treaty.
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the first beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
@@HimanshuShukla0802 Rivers don't belong to political boundaries - from source to delta a river is complex and connected ecological integrity. It only belongs to the landscape where it flows. Both countries, and their people, must understand this philosophy of respecting and managing a river. Both countries must shun outdated political and governance models of the past and embrace modern concepts of sustainability and cooperation. And most important, it is time to think above prejudice for a better future of coming generations in both countries.
He cleaverly tried to victimize Pakistan.....but the reality is that any agreement and treaty is signed by mutual interests......he cleaverly denied all the positive side Pakistan got from the treaty
Its due to intellectuals like these Pakistan is what Pakistan is .....
I'm not agreeing with you sir . Because waste drain( budda
nala) from Ludhiana end up in satluj about 30 km from Ludhiana. Same as well from Hoshirpur and Jalandher waste drain end up to beas river before Harike head. All water from Harike distributed to Rajasthan and some to malwa regions, Pakistan not getting any wasted drain water. Satluj is dry after Firozpur head.
I Salute you Dr Hassan Abbas for giving such an enlightening talk with such clarity. ✨✨
Seriously 😒!
Noone can enlighten any Pakistani
Grand Coulie Dam is bigger than Hoover? no It's not.
That stopped water will be used for your beloved kahsmiris don't worry .. we want to develop electricity and water supply for them.
People are not divided because of division of rivers. On rhe contrary, rivers were divided because your leaders dividend the people.
Pak should end this treaty as the most knowledgeable Dr Abbas says...pak should dismantle all its dams ..
Sir if this treaty is do much against the interests of Pakistan why don't you break it. There is an exit clause. According to your talk sll the Pakistani leaders right from 1952 to till date have worked against the interests of Pakistan. Seems very funny.
Sir, you say that all the 8ndustrial wastewater and sewage from indn Punjab flows into Pakistan has serious technical flaw. Let me explain it scientifically.
1. Before the wastewate from India enters Pakistan it flows in a portion of drain which is located in India. It means indian wastewater will first pollution the ground water of indian Punjab because of infiltration from the drain to the ground water tabke.
2. India has very strict laws for wastewater management. There are hundreds of plants which treat sewage in India.
3. These drains which flow into Pakistan are natural drain. These are not msn made drains. Do you understand its meaning. It means these drains are formed over the period of thousands of years by the rainwater. So, these drains are carrying storm water which Pakistan gets as a bonus.
Sir, you have mentioned ICC so many times. Do you know China lost its case of South China sea. Nothing has happened. China refused to obey ICC.
Mr Danish for your information Irrigation Engineering is part of Civil engineering. There is no country in the world including US, Europe, China or India which offered a separate program in irrigation. Basic degree is Civil Engineering only.
Nope.
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
The treaty is already broken and amended de facto. India is using all the eastern rivers. They are taking water from western rivers too with new projects.
I see many Indian going berserk here. The person here is quoting verifiable references. He is criticizing both parties not just India.
So basically the whole point of this discussion shows that how corrupt, incompetent and pathetic the leaders of Pakistan have got right from the start.
Aadhi haqeekat aadha fasana.
Hi
Pakistani should know China doesn't want to sign any river water treaty between china and India.
Hence india can modify the treaty between india and Pakistan in future
Amazing lecture,hidden corruption and deff and dumb management ☠️the end
Eye opening lecture. The Black Hole does what no one else can do. An example for mainstream private channels to follow.
Lol
Nope.
Dr. Hasan don't know that river belongs to Jammu and Kashmir as Sui gass of Balochistan so the beneficiaries must be natives of that land where the resources belongs.
If Pakistan gov sell sui gass to china then china would have to pay money or services to that country.
water is not just the freebies but a precious natural resource like Sui gass.
Mr. Hasan is claiming water of Ganga and Yamuna , the question is did he ever read Independence act 1947.
It's the partition of British India land not natural resource. Afterthat the muslims denied to go Pakistan even many league leaders didn't go there and Pakistan closed the doors for them. So Indian muslims can claim thier demanded motherland Pakistan because Pakistan violated the Indian independence act 1947 and it can fuel other hindu Rashtra movement in India.19% muslim of British India got 30% land afterthat they made islamic nation and denied to leave India.
And the second things that any agreement between any country are valid until their parliament or senate don't pass any legislation against treaty. For example , USA cancelled nuclear treaty with Iran unilaterally during Trump era. So We have given our 80% water to Pakistan
So Indian parliament has also right to refute any treaty via parliament as Pakistan violated in East and West Pakistan of Nehru Liaqat pact.
Cherry picking , if pak is lower riparian , India is also is lower riparian when rivers come from china , do these guys think chinese will give the same benefits to India , these people live in a fools jannath , Colorado river use to flow to Mexico , once upon a time , america diverted it to the western states like california & mexico barely gets any , so thats that , who hav it , will do what they want , thats why you develop good neighbourly relations , friendship works , u pick war , u get nothing.
War is the only solution. Winner take all 😅
Delhi main drinking water nhi hai aur humari rivers se extra water Pakistan ko ja rha hai
Godavari river is going in Krishna river FUTURE ❤
आप कि बहुत ही अच्छी बात थी लेकिन ईन हुक्मरानों को कोन समजा य ❤ 2 ❤
Beautiful session
Total lies.
@@sunilamarwaha3053 really, how so?
@@asimmehmood5837 It is not necessary to tell you as it is waste of time to teach the illiterate.
I was genuinely interested in your point of view. I just don't make up my mind by listening to one side. I'm always open to possibilities. Just because I thought he is right doesn't mean if the evidence is presented I would deny it.