cjflo umm it is irony. They imprisoned joker with the other guy( forgot his name), but actually they imprisoned the other guy with joker. They did the opposite of what they wanted to do, therefore making it irony
@@cjflo Irony is "The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning Source: www.thefreedictionary.com/irony The Joker is imprisoned, locked inside a room and being both held up against a wall and punched by Batman. Yet, he's the one calling the shots. He's the one in power, even when locked in a room and being brutally attacked. That is, by the very definition of the word, ironic.
I love how the Joker knew Batman would go for Rachael, and reversed the address so he would save Dent instead. Such a cruel, evil, horrible, and brilliant plan.
He mixed the addresses up after Batman slammed his head down You can see him act it out as he tries to tell him where they are, look again 4:40 it wasn’t intentional
Heath Ledger was only TWENTY SEVEN years old when he filmed this movie and you would never be able to tell. To give a performance like this at such a young age is absolutely jaw dropping. This is a performance that the highest caliber of actors that have had decades in the industry could only dream of giving.
Since it was really only a matter of time until he won an Oscar, I’m pretty sure it would’ve only been a matter of time until he won at least one other one if he hadn’t died.
@@liamreid5407 no doubt in my mind he wouldve climbed the ranks to be one of the best actors of all time. Considering the dent he made in the industry in the little time we had him.
@@randehmarshgames4608 with this performance he became the best actor of all time in my eyes. When your widely considered the greatest movie villain ever I think it’s safe to say ur one of the greatest ever.
Exactly. Phoenix played an amazing Joker, truly. But Ledger laid the ground work for how terrifying this character could be in live action and this performance won't be topped. 14 years later and any new Joker will always be compared to this legendary performance. It's a true shame he left the world so young because of prescription drugs, like so many do. I'm convinced he would have had several more ground breaking roles in the last decade and a half if he was still here.
You know a performance is timeless when you don't see the actor playing a character. You just see the character. That's how phenomenal Ledgers performance is in this entire film
Even when I’m explicitly trying to see him as Heath Ledger in this scene, and examine his acting, it’s really fucking difficult to see past the character. He really is the Joker. Quite possibly the most convincing performance in cinema history.
Simply one of the best portrayals of a villain ever. Ledger blended the Joker’s charisma, cruelty, and intelligence perfectly. It’s a very tough character to interpret to start with.
Very comic accurate too. How they portray the fact that the joker is basically obsessed with batman and just wants to fuck with him just for fun. “You complete me” “I think you and i, are destined to do this forever”
You know what? Come to think about it, both Christian Bale and Gary Oldman actually could play really good as Joker as well, looking how crazy they were in American Psycho and Leon The Professional, that's how really good actors in this movie are.. But still, Ledger took the cake..
Beware the man that has nothing to lose - Nietzche. Joker has nothing, absolutely nothing Batman or anyone else can threaten him with. He has no family, does not care about money, there is no one he loves and he doesnt even care if he lives or not. He is just here to create anarchy.
@@Double21Stuffed I mean it wasn’t terrible, but, just felt incredibly unnecessary. It didn’t do anything to beat the previous film and the musical numbers almost had nothing to do with the plot.
yeah me too bro, for the ending is kinda a connecting bridge to heath ledger joker but yeah that movie are kinda dissapointing cos of that so many useless musical. I felt like watching disn3y movie not a joker movie when i was watching it at the cinema LOL
For me it was always catch some of the best parts of this scene and one I noticed is really how much the joker really is proving how Batman isn’t really getting anywhere with the joker He’s taking and seeming to want all the hits he has so he could break
@Star Killer Joaquin Phoenix's joker was more of a traumatised version of the character, whereas Heath's Portrayal of the Joker prevails as a Raging Psychopath who can destroy anyone.
_"You have _*_NOTHING_*_ . _*_NOTHING_*_ to threaten me with. _*_NOTHING_*_ to do with all your strength."_ Feel that momentum of true despair and anger as Batman momentarily freezes before furiously attacking, because he's totally right, he kills Joker there with all his fury and both victims will die anyway. Batman's hands are visibly shaking with pure desperation trying to intimidate him and Joker is enjoying every second of it.
@@mantafking1505 he's a troll, I saw him on a few other related videos saying the same thing. He just has a hard on for bashing a dead actor who can't stand up for himself apparently.
Well I think that Joker gave Batman a choice to choose love of his life or justice,which means that if Batman would choose justice he would get as a reward love of his life,and here he actually chose love over justice so he got punished for choosing love over justice
I don’t know why, but whenever I watch this movie and see Joker, I don’t even see Heath Ledger, I just see the Joker. Personally I think this is the best cinematic variation of the joker.
You say you don't even see Heath, they reckon he was never the same after this, he put too much of himself away to portray the joker and never fully came back from it.
@@develynseether4426 that's a myth. If you watch interviews of Heath talking around and after the time he shot this movie he is functioning seemingly well mentally. His problems were separate from the role.
i’ll never get over the fact that Ledger was actually getting punched here and he never broke character for even a fraction of a second. we were so blessed to get to witness his work
What's so inherently joker about that fact, is that heath definitely took the pain he felt in those punches and put it into that laugh. Truly haunting stuff
@@Haydon.F. I think that was actually Ledger's fetish. Being repeatedly punched. Or maybe he suffered from CIPA. Or maybe he took some painkillers prior to filming this scene.
“You have nothing to threaten me with, nothing to do with all your strength” The joker made Batman feel so vulnerable in this scene because he knows Batman won’t kill him
@@yoshiizz I'm not sure about that. Performing Joker actually affected him to the point he overdosed didn't he? It should something was already working wrong in his head
@@Baykko As far as I know he OD'd by accident, took one dose, woke up disoriented, then took a second for unknown reasons, most likely that he thought it was later than it actually was
@@antoniusimbiri2503 that's an official version. of course his relations don't want people to know him as mad drug addict. so it may be true, or may be not
It’s really tough for a filmmaker to make it feel like the guy who’s actively getting the snot beat out of him is actually in charge/winning. This film executes it absolutely flawlessly. 🔥
“They need you right now, but when they don’t. They’ll cast you out” foreshadows a scene in TDKR when one of the congressman tells foley that they are dumping Gordon in the spring because it’s peacetime not war time
“To them you’re just a freak….like me” Best Joker line. Even though Batman saves and protects innocent people and helps Gotham police. They’re still afraid of him and still treat him like a violent lunatic just like The Joker.
True. But that's a part of Batman's game. He want people to fear him, that's why he wears a freakin bat suit that makes him look like a demon and terrorize criminals.
When Joker was hurt when someone called him a freak in a previous scene, it shows in this scene that the Joker feels a genuine emotional bond with Batman.
The joker looking at Gordon’s watch at the beginning scene always blew my mind. Throughout the entire interrogation/beating the joker is counting the minutes.
Not only is Ledger's acting here legendary, Zimmer's score in the background slowly building into an overwhelming crescendo as the horror and chaos of the scene sets in is absolutely incredible.
I saw the BTS and Nolan and Zimmer came up with the idea of Joker's theme being what they call a shepard tone. It seems to constantly rise like a crescendo but it never reaches the peak
You remember first seeing this when it came out? I was shook. I knew the guy was a good actor but he really snapped in this.. Ill never forget that experience in the theater. Definitely a landmark performance.
@@bobstacks8405 One of the best performances I’ve ever seen and I don’t say that lightly. There’s not a single moment where you can tell Heath is acting. Feels so natural it’s quite scary actually
This scene is terrifying, in a way: Joker's in jail but he has all the cards. He always had them, he gloats about it. People laugh about the fact that he says he has no plan when he clearly does, but let's not forget that he doesn't think like we do: his plans work because he knows how to read people. I'm not even sure he was planning on lying to Batman by switching the addresses for Dent and Rachel, he could have decided to do that on a whim, just for the laughs and the chaos that would ensue
oh, he totally had the switch up planned, that's what makes it so genius. Since he saw Batman unhesitantly jump off that roof for Rachel in the penthouse, he knew how close Rachel truly was to him and Dent. By switching the addresses and killing Rachel he could not only punish Batman for choosing love over justice, as he knew who Batman would choose but also send Dent even closer to the edge while securing that he would live due to Batman's intervention. I bet that even if he did choose Dent over Rachel or if Dent died somehow though, that he would have carried on with a different plan.
@@yeet.mp8458 If he did why not, but imagine if he didn't plan it (I'd prefer to believe he didn't, it's even more twisted!). Batman would still have to make a choice between the two, and as we've seen, one of them would have died no matter what because there was no way for the police to arrive as fast as Batman did. For me, it's like when he first wanted Batman to surrender but then decided against it because he was having so much more fun with the Bat around. He "goes with the flow", so to speak
@@yeet.mp8458 i honestly think it was just speculation on the jokers part that he cared for her, confirmed during the interrogation. I think he also knew losing rachel would destroy dent, the fact that batman cared for her too was a bonus
The light turning on to reveal Batman was standing behind the Joker the entire time is probably my favorite cinematic Batman moment ever. Just perfection. Straight out of a comic book.
Yeah it's like a transition that takes place not because the scene changes but because a part of the scene remains hidden from you... A pretty generic analysis but I think this makes sense
@@greenlightcomics7602dude, I’ve read a lot of comics or, as I prefer to call them, graphic novels, and it is, 100% lifted out of how graphic novels will do a page turn then upper left corner panel was something you absolutely did not expect or see coming.
We could see the live version "they are only as good as the world allows them to be" when people knocked people over in variety stores for basic little things during Covid
Reminds me of Shane from The Walking Dead who adapts faster than everyone to a degree, he is perceived as monster. Later seasons you see everyone begins thinking like him.
Shit "it's all some greeting you for dance" yes or take a step and asking you question about, or your phne getting notification for I treating your loving a gift :)
@Harry Paul For every good person there's at least a thousand assholes. All the ppl who are currently in charge are major assholes including the Elite.
@Harry Paul they are outnumbered so they are helpless. swimming against the tide to try and save someone that's drowning. Truth is that society is only as good as the people that shape it and those that protect it. when the world is run by narcissistic sociopaths and pedophiles we are all fucked.
We are technically living in a real life Gotham. That's why Ras Al Gul thought it was not worth saving at all. Most people are selfish, indifferent and greedy and can't even admit it.
Back in 2008, as a kid I never realized that only thing Joker doing in this scene was wasting the time of both Gordon and Batman so that they get very little time to save either Dent or Rachel; *Joker looked into Gordon's watch when he opened his hand cuffs, to see the time and act accordingly.* This movie is a masterpiece and Nolan's direction is awesome. Edit: thank you for the amazing comments you are giving. You guys are Awesome.
I never gave it any thought that The Joker was looking at Gordon’s watch to see how long he had to stall time for. I always figured he was just looking at him taking off the handcuffs. Amazing attention to detail! Edit: 1:05 is when he looks at his watch Plus, a few moments before he looked at his watch, he asked what the time was and Gordon never told him. Then, later when Batman has him agains the wall, the Joker said “There’s only minutes left”, which confirms that he did look at Gordon’s watch.
@@P90XGetRipped I also love the reference Joker made about Dent essentially being blown to smithereens, "Well depending on the time he may be in one spot or several." that was cold.
Totally got what he meant. An ESU and SWAT crew once responded to a guy that locked himself in his house and eventually blew himself up. After the fire was out, they went in and someone asked: "You find him?" The answer was: "Yeah. We found some of him..."
@@TheSands83 What... I'm scared to ask but how could you possibly think this legendary role as the joker sucked? I mean I like to respect peoples opinions, but when it goes against logic itself I can't help but judge.
Batman’s philosophy: Humans are naturally good. Their environment makes them act badly. The Joker’s philosophy: Humans are naturally bad. Their environment makes them act good. That’s an extreme oversimplification, but their ideological conflict is based on human nature. This is why the Joker is fine with Batman killing him. It’s proves his point. It shows that everyone, even the most incorruptible person, can be corrupted. That our nature, when “all the chips are down” devolves into chaos, not of order. Getting Harvey Dent to turn was the Jokers masterpiece. So much so that Batman and the Gordon choose to lie because they knew how devastating it would be if Gotham found out. They respect each other, because they both have good points. This is truly a beautifully written movie and it’s no wonder that it set a new standard for what a superhero movie should be.
You know what? Come to think about it, both Christian Bale and Gary Oldman actually could play really good as Joker as well, looking how crazy they were in American Psycho and Leon The Professional, that's how really good actors in this movie are.. But still, Ledger took the cake..
Man, movie Joker can never catch a break these days. We only get a one-shot performance from this legend. Jared Leto. Joaquin's Joker got brutally crushed in the sequel. It's almost like a curse at this point.
I don't think there's ever gonna be a Batman Joker scene that will top this scene ever. The intensity,acting,tension all on point, an absolute masterpiece
The thing is, every batman movie can try and will try to do a scene like this. But honestly this scene, especially because of Heath,will always be better.
if you ever listened to the music score it starts to turn up a lot with the joker. it amplifies when the intensity gets worse. watch this scene and notice how it changes.
4:17 This right here is the greatest laugh the Joker has ever delivered. It’s a perfect mix of genuine pleasure and absolute insanity. It’s truly nothing short of perfection.
The best thing about it is that he starts laughing as soon as batman start to swing his punch. As soon as he knew he was about to get hit, he loved it and started laughing
I always say this, I will always love how he says “Do I really look like a guy with a plan,” & yet he’s planning everything, he planned to give Batman the wrong addresses, plant the bomb in his crew member, etc.
@@dragonborn523 it's intentionally left vague, but it's been heavily implied that he's an ex military vet who's been psychologically damaged by the war.
4:16 I'm kinda sad not many people are talking about this moment, him laughing and looking at batman's fist before it even hits him is just terrifying and fucking great acting.
@Bryan.Branly I agree Heath Leger is the best Joker here, and I saw Joker 2 yesterday, and what I had to say is it was bad and it was horrible the worst film I've seen in 2024.
Now that Joker 2 was not good for people, they came back here. I think both performances are very good. Even though they are both great actors, obviously the script is the last piece to complete a character as memorable. A bad script would make any of these look bad.
What defines the Joker and this performance to me is when The Joker says: "You have NOTHING to threaten me with, NOTHING you can do with all your strength." Stellar writing and performance.
The root cause of the school shootings..this mindset the shooter carries knowing he will die anyways..it's not about mental illness at all, "Killing is a making a choice" like Joker said
3 Things I love about this scene. 1. Heath’s performance… obviously 2. Christian Bale’s performance as Batman you can tell there’s a difference between his performance as Bruce and his performance as Batman. It’s hard to believe Bruce is the one in the mask beating up joker. 3. Ledger told Bale to actually punch him in the face to make the scene more realistic. And he did, and they both stayed in character the whole time. Amazing!
Completely agree with everything you said… obviously… but Don’t forget 4. Hans Zimmer’s hair raising Joker Score which when It starts builds the Intensity and then gradually gets louder and louder as the Interrogation goes on and Batman gets more Angry with rage and more violent.
@@whisperingaprayer42 Probably not, the point is that the Joker didn't give a shit about anyone--including himself. As far as he's concerned, Batman torturing him would only prove how easily "good" people can be driven to commit evil.
hola amigos that his body parts could be scattered across the city in the explosions. (Wasn’t foreshadowing death but that he was in a situation that could kill him via explosives)
“Tonight you’re going to break your one rule” I didn’t realize till now that he was talking about Harvey and Rachel, that he was willing to let Harvey die for Rachel
Even though it wasn’t tonight, another thing to point out was he really did break his rule when he killed Harvey Dent. While you could argue he just didn’t save Ra’s Al Ghul and Rachel, he really did kill Harvey when he threw off the side of the building. The Joker was right.
Mody Arif true, but at this time before Harvey became two-face, Batman was willing to let him die know what he means to Gotham, it’s even shown in the dark knight rises how safe the city is through the dent act, but it is based on a lie, but also it is pretty hard to miss how many times Bruce puts Harvey’s life in danger
4:31 I love how the Joker has to think real quick, reversing the street addresses in his head, knowing that batman won't have the time to think about it, and also knowing that he will go for Rachel instead of Harvey. Such brilliant and believable acting.
The whole entire point of this joker is that’s he’s a liar. He parades as someone without a plan but he constantly always was planning ahead. He knew bat would go to china so he tried to plan ahead. He knew Rachel was going to die that plan was solely to emotionally damage Dent I don’t think he accounted for the accident but he benefited from it regardless. His plan to blow the boats up. He planned ahead if the people didn’t blow each other up. And the hospital bombing he went there to fire dent up and turned him into a murder machine. He was literally a man with a plan at all times. Including this one. Another lie I forgot to mention. He lies about the story of how he got his scars He tells the mob boss 1 story and Rachel another, and I assume with his track record of being a habitual liar, neither story were true
Yeah and when the Joker said that he's 'going to break his one rule' he didn't mean killing the joker to get information. I think he meant that in his attempt to save one of them, he will be making the choice to kill the other (even if he thinks that the police will get in time to the other one)
@@empyreanpromethean4831 It's because he KNEW Batman would succeed in rescuing whoever he chose, and he KNEW he'd go for Rachel. So he switched the addresses because he needed Harvey alive to continue his plan, and he knew Batman would get to him in time. He also knew that Rachel dying would destroy Harvey enough to flip him.
In my honest opinion, Heath Ledger’s joker portrayal is still the greatest cinematic performance of ALL TIME.. Till this day, I truly can not believe that was really him under all that makeup and emotion.. he flat out stole the show.. ‘08 was crazy..
@Cat Lover the role's effect on him is seriously exaggerated. he couldn't sleep because he was meeting with Steven Spielberg the next day, which you can imagine would be stressful
@@mr.silhouette6252 he mixed the medication because he couldn't sleep but not because of his Joker role, it was because he was meeting Steven Spielberg the next day which would probably be stressful for anyone. it's really disrespectful when people try to say that it was his role that killed him - it wasn't
No it's not. If that were right (and the speech is exactly backwards from what he means, so they fucked that up too) then society would never have gotten off the ground.
"These civilsed people will eat each other" -Heath Ledger 2008 "Everybody just yells and screams at each other nobody is civil anymore" -Joaquin Phoenix 2019
"They need you right now...but when they don't...they'll cast you out" - and the Joker was correct. As Gordon says at the end of the film, "he's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need, right now".
@@ericsonofjohn9384 no that was his entire plan from Batman begins. To create a symbol that will inspire the creation of other symbols. the dark knight is like Murphy's law in that the wrong symbols emerge. The fake Batmen with hockey pads and shotguns, the joker, the false projection of the white knight, and the tainted symbol of the bat. In the dark knight rises, Bruce's dream finally congeals into Robin and Catwoman.
No superpowers, no aim to destroy the world, no badass muscles. But still the most dangerous 😈 villain ever. It is the confidence that makes you villain or a hero.
Just remember this, the casting of Heath as The Joker met with so much criticism and backlash from fans and there was an online petition for a recast. Even Jack Nicholson was concern and furious about the casting, he also warned Heath about playing the character. Well look what happened after the movie's release, oh how the tables have turned......
I don't get the backlash really. I've seen clips of Jack Nicholson's Joker and he doesn't hold a candle to Heath Ledger. Hell even Mark Hamill does a better job than him
If Black Panther was mentioned anywhere in the comments section, The Dork Knight fans would start crying because Black Panther thrashed TDK in every criteria like Rotten tomatoes Metacritic Box office Oscars Cinemascore
Glad Heath was in brokeback because that why way Nolan picked him. His acting was fucking insane. Expressed pain and grief in a quiet, subtle way. And when he fought others, i was shocked how intimidating he was. You can imagine my hype when he was announced as the Joker. Had such high expectations... And STILL wasn't ready
@@lickenhuntsman5338 You're a little mixed up. The batman is for redditor edge lord children that are going through the emo phase. Joker, eh, it was good but they're killing it with making a second one, that's going to be peak stupidity.
The Dark Knight is 10/10 Heath Ledger’s role as the joker cannot even be topped in my opinion. He completely nailed the joker. It can’t be beaten. Love it. This movie is a gem that’ll age like wine
@@juicymullet585 You have not seen Christian Bale in other movies such as American Psycho, The Machinist, Public Enemies, The Fighter, American Hustle: I could go on and on but his resume with movies speaks for itself. He is definitely a talented Actor, and goes to great lengths to get into his characters as the late Heath Ledger has done the same. That said, you are entitled to your opinion.
"You have nothing... nothing to threaten me with! Nothing to do with all your strength!" Now that's somethign you never wanna hear from the person you're trying to intimidate. Seriously, that line gives me chills. Batman's realizing that there is indeed nothing he can do to break The Joker.
He could shatter his arms and legs and cut his tongue out. "Lets see how much laughter you have clown" I would love an alternate scene where Batman does that but he would definitely be an anti hero after that
@@alexthomas6274 maybe and that would be amazing if as the Joker is laying there can't speak or move we hear his thoughts saying "oh bats they will never forgive you for being so brutal and cold HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!"
The acting of Ledger in this scene just made this whole movie greater. His willingness to give it all. And still tell jokes and not be in character between scenes proves how great an actor he was
"A man who has not prepared his children for his own death has failed as a father". The above line has more meaning than The Dark Knight Trilogy combined.
I honestly prefer characters with depth like (Joaquin's Joker, Fassbender's Magneto, RDJ's Stark) than one-dimensional characters like (Evans' Steve Rogers, Bale's Wayne, Ledger's Joker)
Well he doesn’t but it can seem compelling. The one line of dialogue I find disjointed is “they’re only as good as the world allows them to be”. From my understanding that implies the police and law enforcement have a pure and righteous ideology on an individual level that can’t be realized because of the society they exist in. Perhaps that’s true in Gotham but certainly not in this world. Insofar as he is referring to the film’s reality, part of the corruption that led Gotham to become a haven of crime was corruption that had to exist in every level of law enforcement including the people he suggests “are only as good as the world *allows* them to be.
I love that scene because Joker actually teaches Batman a lesson. When the Joker tells him the address of where they are Batman prefers to save Rachel over Harvey and it contradicts what Batman stands for. Hero’s make sacrifices for the greater good and instead of saving Harvey for the greater of Gotham he tries to save Rachel.
Which is a painful irony because if he'd made that "sacrificed" he would have saved her. Joker knew all the players and how they'd proceed against each other.
@@geordiejones5618 That's the thing. Joker's schemes always reward people if they make the selfless choice. They're always punished for being selfish and that's what makes him so brilliant.
4:07 - Joker : Killing is making a choice Choose between one life or the other . 4:36 - Joker : And that's the point You have to choose . Rachel died because batman choose her .
It's so accurate too. Watching this you knew there was nothing Batman could do to intimidate him at that point. What a fantastic character. One of the best I've ever seen.
Don't trust me but I've read somewhere that they used a violin bow over piano strings to give it that tone which has no melody or something. Like a beautiful mess.
Yup. Every character in the movie thinks the Joker is just yapping about different shit but when you think about it in reality, he’s been trying to speak true words to his foes.
@@primalvelocity3811 yeah there were dents in the table from where Heaths head was slammed, and the mirror on the wall actually was shattered. Heath Ledger did that because he was a method actor and he wanted to really put himself in the role, he only broke character once and it was to ask someone if they were okay after slamming their head on a pencil
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I love the irony in this scene. Joker is imprisoned but he's the one with all the power.
@ yes that's it
John Doe has the upper hand!
That's not irony. Irony is like rain on your wedding day.
cjflo umm it is irony. They imprisoned joker with the other guy( forgot his name), but actually they imprisoned the other guy with joker. They did the opposite of what they wanted to do, therefore making it irony
@@cjflo Irony is "The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning
Source: www.thefreedictionary.com/irony
The Joker is imprisoned, locked inside a room and being both held up against a wall and punched by Batman.
Yet, he's the one calling the shots. He's the one in power, even when locked in a room and being brutally attacked.
That is, by the very definition of the word, ironic.
"You have nothing...nothing to threaten me with." Such an epic line, Batman really was powerless against the Joker.
Except the plot. That's pretty threatening imo
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It was also the way he said it. Every line Ledger deliver he put out with utter conviction.
He says you are forgotten joker.Joker almost dies
I said that to three guys that were kicking my ass but they just kept kicking me even harder and it hurt like hell.
I love how the Joker knew Batman would go for Rachael, and reversed the address so he would save Dent instead. Such a cruel, evil, horrible, and brilliant plan.
It was the concussion
He mixed the addresses up after Batman slammed his head down
You can see him act it out as he tries to tell him where they are, look again
4:40 it wasn’t intentional
It was. He wanted to show that he could turn anyone in the city into a monster, so he chose the most incorruptible person in Harvey dent
I think it was more that he wanted it to be the case that he would fail to save the one he preferred, whether he chose Dent or Rachael.
The scene was designed to create this very discussion thread lol
Heath Ledger was only TWENTY SEVEN years old when he filmed this movie and you would never be able to tell. To give a performance like this at such a young age is absolutely jaw dropping. This is a performance that the highest caliber of actors that have had decades in the industry could only dream of giving.
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The world really lost a generational talent. It still breaks my heart to this day
Wild. I would have guessed he was in his late 30s.
lol what is this comment? 27 is young? Are you an elf?
@@SM-ok3sz bro unless you are a teenager, 27 is young lol
Just imagine what Ledger would have done with the rest of his career if he was still alive. An acting legend.
Since it was really only a matter of time until he won an Oscar, I’m pretty sure it would’ve only been a matter of time until he won at least one other one if he hadn’t died.
@@liamreid5407 no doubt in my mind he wouldve climbed the ranks to be one of the best actors of all time. Considering the dent he made in the industry in the little time we had him.
@@randehmarshgames4608 with this performance he became the best actor of all time in my eyes. When your widely considered the greatest movie villain ever I think it’s safe to say ur one of the greatest ever.
Exactly. Phoenix played an amazing Joker, truly. But Ledger laid the ground work for how terrifying this character could be in live action and this performance won't be topped. 14 years later and any new Joker will always be compared to this legendary performance. It's a true shame he left the world so young because of prescription drugs, like so many do. I'm convinced he would have had several more ground breaking roles in the last decade and a half if he was still here.
Imagine him in tdkr
You know a performance is timeless when you don't see the actor playing a character. You just see the character. That's how phenomenal Ledgers performance is in this entire film
Even when I’m explicitly trying to see him as Heath Ledger in this scene, and examine his acting, it’s really fucking difficult to see past the character. He really is the Joker. Quite possibly the most convincing performance in cinema history.
@@uppo9301 it undoubtedly is
Totally agree with you.
@@uppo9301 yeah I am trying to see Ledger while looking at the Joker and I just cant..
@@GNMbg i mean yea he's got makeup on, dork
Simply one of the best portrayals of a villain ever. Ledger blended the Joker’s charisma, cruelty, and intelligence perfectly. It’s a very tough character to interpret to start with.
Villain?
@@pdog109 Villain = bad guy
Very comic accurate too. How they portray the fact that the joker is basically obsessed with batman and just wants to fuck with him just for fun. “You complete me” “I think you and i, are destined to do this forever”
You know what? Come to think about it, both Christian Bale and Gary Oldman actually could play really good as Joker as well, looking how crazy they were in American Psycho and Leon The Professional, that's how really good actors in this movie are..
But still, Ledger took the cake..
And the voice of Tom Waits....lol
After seeing joker 2, Heath ledger is still the best interpretation of joker of all time
You mean for the beating scene of Arthur in Joker 2, right?
He was still the best even after joker 1 for me lol.
Joker movies are overrated asf.
Live Action: Yes
But overall B:TAS Joker voiced by Hamill is the best interpretation
We wouldn't have got this Joker if it wasn't for Jack Nicholson. He set the bar.
"You have nothing to threaten me with..."
It's scary at how right he is. He knows Batman won't break his one rule so he is in complete control.
And even if he does joker wouldn't care if he died he would just laugh it off in his last moments
The way he is laughing when he is falling off the building at the end thinking he's about to die
Even if he breaks his rule, he wont be able to save dent or rachel
@@YellowFlash34 one of them
Beware the man that has nothing to lose - Nietzche.
Joker has nothing, absolutely nothing Batman or anyone else can threaten him with. He has no family, does not care about money, there is no one he loves and he doesnt even care if he lives or not. He is just here to create anarchy.
The Jokers performance is so amazing it steals the show from anything else thats happening.
I made a comment 3 months ago and I was showing out a camera man in this scene but no one liked not one
@@mrfluffybeehive ooooh is it the guys at 3:16 ? lol
@@marcelmaria8363 yeah there is a guy in the window
@@mrfluffybeehive I've got you king
Yes, it is amazing.
The Batman is physically stronger, but the Joker is smarter than Batman is. Plus the Joker does not fear his own death.
The reason I love this scene is because Batman literally runs out of ideas. He is entirely at the Joker’s mercy.
"You have nothing! Nothing to threaten me!!!! Nothing to do with all of your strenght"
"tonight you're gonna break your one rule"
*"I'm considering it."*
@@JoseLuna-xo6tx he was literally shaking his hands.
@@JoseLuna-xo6tx and at this part 4:29 his tone of voice completely shifted, just listen to how terrified he sounded.
He not only did extract information from joker but also made him terrified.
Came back here to cleanse myself of Joker 2.
It was really as bad as they say, huh? I haven’t seen it yet.
@@Double21Stuffed I mean it wasn’t terrible, but, just felt incredibly unnecessary. It didn’t do anything to beat the previous film and the musical numbers almost had nothing to do with the plot.
me too bro
I just needed a joker cleanse where he's in control of his life and isn't depresso expresso
yeah me too bro, for the ending is kinda a connecting bridge to heath ledger joker but yeah that movie are kinda dissapointing cos of that so many useless musical. I felt like watching disn3y movie not a joker movie when i was watching it at the cinema LOL
Batman is beating the hell out of Joker and still the Joker music plays in the background, so you know who is actually winning.
For me it was always catch some of the best parts of this scene and one I noticed is really how much the joker really is proving how Batman isn’t really getting anywhere with the joker
He’s taking and seeming to want all the hits he has so he could break
YES! That's the brilliance of the sound and music in this film!
I was your 2100th like
Bruh
It's like Joker said, he had nothing to threaten him with and he didn't give a crap if he got beat up.
The intensity of the Joker played by heath just hits you.
Agreed
Every time
@Star Killer Joaquin Phoenix's joker was more of a traumatised version of the character, whereas Heath's Portrayal of the Joker prevails as a Raging Psychopath who can destroy anyone.
Heath is the worst fucking Joker I've ever seen. Period, just complete garbage.
Mark Hamill is the only man, worthy of the role of Joker. Period.
@@The_Totes_Adorbs Nonsense. This is how the Joker is supposed to be. That's why no other attempt by any actor comes close.
_"You have _*_NOTHING_*_ . _*_NOTHING_*_ to threaten me with. _*_NOTHING_*_ to do with all your strength."_
Feel that momentum of true despair and anger as Batman momentarily freezes before furiously attacking, because he's totally right, he kills Joker there with all his fury and both victims will die anyway. Batman's hands are visibly shaking with pure desperation trying to intimidate him and Joker is enjoying every second of it.
Heath ledger originally committed suicide. Whining DC fans had to beg higher officials to alter the reason to OD'ed.
@@ashokkumarganesan3927 He didn't kill himself..
@@ashokkumarganesan3927 He didn't commit suicide, stop spreading fake info
@@mantafking1505 he's a troll, I saw him on a few other related videos saying the same thing. He just has a hard on for bashing a dead actor who can't stand up for himself apparently.
This same event happens in Fight Club with Tyler and Lou...it was more unnerving than this
@4:17 the way the Joker knows the punch is coming and just laughs
Joker was right when he said people show their true colors when they're about to die.
The fact Joker gave Batman the wrong address knowing he'd get to the address before the cops got to their address is pure genius!
Ye no shit he knows his stuff
@@kiran-gs2sr yh
Well I think that Joker gave Batman a choice to choose love of his life or justice,which means that if Batman would choose justice he would get as a reward love of his life,and here he actually chose love over justice so he got punished for choosing love over justice
@@janhracho8688 you just blew my mind!
@@HoneytoastINC really?
I don’t know why, but whenever I watch this movie and see Joker, I don’t even see Heath Ledger, I just see the Joker. Personally I think this is the best cinematic variation of the joker.
Agreed sad he passed. Would've loved to see him reprise his role. Take on bane lol
You say you don't even see Heath, they reckon he was never the same after this, he put too much of himself away to portray the joker and never fully came back from it.
@@develynseether4426 that's a myth. If you watch interviews of Heath talking around and after the time he shot this movie he is functioning seemingly well mentally. His problems were separate from the role.
I thought Phoenix was better personally. But Ledger still did an amazing job.
@@DesertEagle093 Heath and Phoenix's Joker characters couldn't BE more different.
Rest in peace Heath Ledger. He was one of the best actors of our time.
i’ll never get over the fact that Ledger was actually getting punched here and he never broke character for even a fraction of a second. we were so blessed to get to witness his work
Yup Ik he told bale to not pull the punches
@@christianholt2899 nah he actually got hit during the movie he wanted to be authentic in a sense.
What's so inherently joker about that fact, is that heath definitely took the pain he felt in those punches and put it into that laugh. Truly haunting stuff
@@Haydon.F. I think that was actually Ledger's fetish. Being repeatedly punched. Or maybe he suffered from CIPA. Or maybe he took some painkillers prior to filming this scene.
@@Tom_Stevens617 I mean, I'd say it was dedication to the craft hahahaha but good take 😂😂
“Well, depending on the time, he may be in one spot, or several”.
If we're gonna play games, I'ma need to smoke this blunt.
AAAH the good cop bad cop routine?
.... Yeah...
Joker is a pro engineering and math too.
what does that even mean?
@@arn3107 it means he's an engineer bro...
@@boyfat2417 dent can be at several spots?
“You have nothing to threaten me with, nothing to do with all your strength”
The joker made Batman feel so vulnerable in this scene because he knows Batman won’t kill him
This version of batman is ultra nerfed. The Arkham Knight breaks every bone of your body without killing you to get information.
The Dark Dwight Even if Batman did do that, Joker wouldn’t talk
that seems... stupid. like a wannabe punisher.
I think the point is, even if Batman would kill Joker, Joker wouldn't care, because it proves him right.
Cyberium yeah, the joker was in a win win situation the whole movie. In the end he won and everybody else lost everything
0:53 16 years later and only now I realize he meant "either the bombs haven't gone off yet or they have already"
Its not supposed to be a brain teaser lol. Pretty obvious
@@Mfields4517 clearly not lol it's just flown over my head for all this time
@@Doritoz_Locoz_Tacoznah, it's pretty obvious, lol
Obviously lol
Just curious my guy, what did you think it meant?
" *Where are they?* " Batman asked calmly.
I understood that reference
Did you put their names in the buildings of fire??
>>Batman: WHERE ARE THEY!
Very poor choice of words
Why did he say "they" when he was only aware of Dent in that moment?
To think that Ledger actually wanted to take real hits during this scene is what truly scares me
what a legend
@@yoshiizz I'm not sure about that. Performing Joker actually affected him to the point he overdosed didn't he? It should something was already working wrong in his head
@@Baykko As far as I know he OD'd by accident, took one dose, woke up disoriented, then took a second for unknown reasons, most likely that he thought it was later than it actually was
@@Baykko thats just myth. He OD'd by accident, have nothing to do with his performance
@@antoniusimbiri2503 that's an official version. of course his relations don't want people to know him as mad drug addict. so it may be true, or may be not
It’s really tough for a filmmaker to make it feel like the guy who’s actively getting the snot beat out of him is actually in charge/winning. This film executes it absolutely flawlessly. 🔥
@N A that's a very good one as well...
I was just thinking of how terrifying this Joker is even when he's getting the shit kicked out of him.
That's because Heath asked Christian Bale to hit him like the Batman would hit the joker. He really is hitting him, look it up.
was gonna say tht ..he was really hitting him
It's quite easy actually, especially when your opponent ( Bruce ) is a giant P*$$Y.
After Joker 2, I NEED MY KING BACK DEAR GOD😔😔😔😔😔😔
The fact that Heath was like 27 playing this all timer is mind-blowing to me
That just depressed tf out of me
He was 26 when they started filming
Not sure when this scene was filmed tho
@@gergopiroska5749 he was just a boy 😭😭
Cut down before he can even see his prime. We were robbed of potential greatness.
@@maroua120Young man not a boy
"When the chips are down these civilised people... They'll eat each other."
Dark Knight Rises proves he was 100% correct.
“They need you right now, but when they don’t. They’ll cast you out” foreshadows a scene in TDKR when one of the congressman tells foley that they are dumping Gordon in the spring because it’s peacetime not war time
@@philliptaborn6675 holy shit-
Harrambou I just rewatched tdkr and just realized how crazy that is
I think this sums up America right now
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“To them you’re just a freak….like me”
Best Joker line.
Even though Batman saves and protects innocent people and helps Gotham police. They’re still afraid of him and still treat him like a violent lunatic just like The Joker.
Genau das ist das Problem der Hufeisentheorie!
True. But that's a part of Batman's game. He want people to fear him, that's why he wears a freakin bat suit that makes him look like a demon and terrorize criminals.
batman *is* a lunatic though lol
Gotham is literally sewer shit without batman
When Joker was hurt when someone called him a freak in a previous scene, it shows in this scene that the Joker feels a genuine emotional bond with Batman.
The joker looking at Gordon’s watch at the beginning scene always blew my mind. Throughout the entire interrogation/beating the joker is counting the minutes.
Not only is Ledger's acting here legendary, Zimmer's score in the background slowly building into an overwhelming crescendo as the horror and chaos of the scene sets in is absolutely incredible.
fr the score in this film was amazing
I saw the BTS and Nolan and Zimmer came up with the idea of Joker's theme being what they call a shepard tone. It seems to constantly rise like a crescendo but it never reaches the peak
was just thinking that. The buildup is impeccable as the situation grows more and more tense and Bruce grows more aggressive
I know right
I WAS GETTING SCARED AT HOW VIOLENT BATMAN WAS GOING AT THIS UNARMED MAN.
I like when Joker says “ don’t talk like you’re one of them. You’re not”
"Even if you wanna be..."
Crazy recognizing crazy
@@StoneColdSergio "A fisherman always spots another fisherman from afar." - Dennis Reynolds
@@matthewfortuna4464 "A fisherman always spots another fisherman from afar." - Dennis Reynolds - The Golden God
@@LastWednesdayMedia even if you’d like to be*
What honestly scares me about this scene is how calm the joker is and his confidence.
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Definitely brother!
To make it worse all of the stunts were actually done by heath ledger and not cgi
@Jeffro Lans what scares me isn’t him the person, but the fact that he was low key right on everything he was saying lol.
It is a little creepy
Just came here after watching Joker 2, RIP Heath Ledger you will always be the greatest Joker!
He's a legend from this role.
not overrated, not one bit. ledger is fucking mind-blowingly good, period.
You remember first seeing this when it came out? I was shook. I knew the guy was a good actor but he really snapped in this..
Ill never forget that experience in the theater.
Definitely a landmark performance.
@@bobstacks8405 One of the best performances I’ve ever seen and I don’t say that lightly. There’s not a single moment where you can tell Heath is acting. Feels so natural it’s quite scary actually
The movie is overrated tho
@@pandaboogus yep
@@pandaboogus nope
This scene is terrifying, in a way: Joker's in jail but he has all the cards. He always had them, he gloats about it. People laugh about the fact that he says he has no plan when he clearly does, but let's not forget that he doesn't think like we do: his plans work because he knows how to read people. I'm not even sure he was planning on lying to Batman by switching the addresses for Dent and Rachel, he could have decided to do that on a whim, just for the laughs and the chaos that would ensue
I mean his master plan was to corrupt Dent so he probably had the switch-up planned
@@nickshaw2985 True, but he could also not have really cared in the end if he died. I dunno. It's a crazy as it is fascinating!
oh, he totally had the switch up planned, that's what makes it so genius. Since he saw Batman unhesitantly jump off that roof for Rachel in the penthouse, he knew how close Rachel truly was to him and Dent. By switching the addresses and killing Rachel he could not only punish Batman for choosing love over justice, as he knew who Batman would choose but also send Dent even closer to the edge while securing that he would live due to Batman's intervention. I bet that even if he did choose Dent over Rachel or if Dent died somehow though, that he would have carried on with a different plan.
@@yeet.mp8458 If he did why not, but imagine if he didn't plan it (I'd prefer to believe he didn't, it's even more twisted!). Batman would still have to make a choice between the two, and as we've seen, one of them would have died no matter what because there was no way for the police to arrive as fast as Batman did. For me, it's like when he first wanted Batman to surrender but then decided against it because he was having so much more fun with the Bat around. He "goes with the flow", so to speak
@@yeet.mp8458 i honestly think it was just speculation on the jokers part that he cared for her, confirmed during the interrogation. I think he also knew losing rachel would destroy dent, the fact that batman cared for her too was a bonus
The light turning on to reveal Batman was standing behind the Joker the entire time is probably my favorite cinematic Batman moment ever. Just perfection. Straight out of a comic book.
Ikr its almost like a jumpscare
Not even close comic related
@@greenlightcomics7602fym not even close? its batman and joker in an interrogation room 😂? whats more comic booky then that?
Yeah it's like a transition that takes place not because the scene changes but because a part of the scene remains hidden from you... A pretty generic analysis but I think this makes sense
@@greenlightcomics7602dude, I’ve read a lot of comics or, as I prefer to call them, graphic novels, and it is, 100% lifted out of how graphic novels will do a page turn then upper left corner panel was something you absolutely did not expect or see coming.
Heath displayed the greatest acting performance in this movie. Period
"They're only as good as the world allows them to be" and "I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve" are two of the best lines from this scene.
I have one rule
It also basically foreshadowed the third movie after Bane controls Gotham.
We could see the live version "they are only as good as the world allows them to be" when people knocked people over in variety stores for basic little things during Covid
Reminds me of Shane from The Walking Dead who adapts faster than everyone to a degree, he is perceived as monster. Later seasons you see everyone begins thinking like him.
I like "their morals, their code, it's a bad joke; dropped at the first sign of trouble." That's true of so many people.
Plot twist: Joker accidentally switched the addresses because he was fuzzy after all the hits he took
Naaah...
Nah,he's stronger than that anyway. He did it just to mess with Batman since he knew he would go after Rachel.
They missed your joke man
No. If he really was fuzzy.......he wouldn't have switched the addresses
@@ed1434 I got the joke, I was being facetious.
r/woosh 🙃
Watched this scene like a million times and it just doesn't get old.
It is appropriate to watch whatever year you're in.
Same
Of course, it’s timeless
Endgame is shit
@@ok-ql5oc infinity war was better, imo
I like to see the main villain absolutely PWN the main cast.
4:23
"You have nothing. Nothing to threaten me with."
>Batman unzips
Takes a new meaning of scary after Folie A Deux
NO, DON'T TEMPT THEIR WRITERS
Goddammit.
Omg 🤣🤣
Well, if Joker went that far, Batman might as well done that, but eventally he tells him the adresses
The crazy shit is that he lied and switched the addresses he knew he was going to go after her.
Because " you never start with the head. the victim gets all fuzzy" 😉
@@gregoryhamilton7527 i almost thought you were dent the way you threw your self after her
That’s the joke Batman broke his rule and choose his love instead what was the most beneficial option for Gotham
Shit "it's all some greeting you for dance" yes or take a step and asking you question about, or your phne getting notification for I treating your loving a gift :)
he’s such a genius
“These civilised people will eat each other.”
Relevant in 2020
@Harry Paul I am an nihilist
@Harry Paul For every good person there's at least a thousand assholes. All the ppl who are currently in charge are major assholes including the Elite.
@Harry Paul they are outnumbered so they are helpless. swimming against the tide to try and save someone that's drowning. Truth is that society is only as good as the people that shape it and those that protect it. when the world is run by narcissistic sociopaths and pedophiles we are all fucked.
@@Dragnmastralex Yep, it's the extreme unbalance which is currently fucking us.
We are technically living in a real life Gotham. That's why Ras Al Gul thought it was not worth saving at all. Most people are selfish, indifferent and greedy and can't even admit it.
Back in 2008, as a kid I never realized that only thing Joker doing in this scene was wasting the time of both Gordon and Batman so that they get very little time to save either Dent or Rachel;
*Joker looked into Gordon's watch when he opened his hand cuffs, to see the time and act accordingly.*
This movie is a masterpiece and Nolan's direction is awesome.
Edit: thank you for the amazing comments you are giving. You guys are Awesome.
KEEP MY NAME ALIVE HEATH
@@primebrolyart5674 you will always be missed
It’s been years and I just noticed that detail after you pointed it out thank you
I never gave it any thought that The Joker was looking at Gordon’s watch to see how long he had to stall time for. I always figured he was just looking at him taking off the handcuffs. Amazing attention to detail!
Edit: 1:05 is when he looks at his watch
Plus, a few moments before he looked at his watch, he asked what the time was and Gordon never told him. Then, later when Batman has him agains the wall, the Joker said “There’s only minutes left”, which confirms that he did look at Gordon’s watch.
@@P90XGetRipped I also love the reference Joker made about Dent essentially being blown to smithereens, "Well depending on the time he may be in one spot or several." that was cold.
This is one of the best film portrayals of good vs evil ever made.
“Well, depending on the time, he may be in one spot or several”...took me way too long to realize he was hinting at Harvey being blown up into pieces
@@chrisstoltz3648 wtf lmao🤣🤣🤣 this isn't Marvel
@@chrisstoltz3648 wrong universe bro
Totally got what he meant.
An ESU and SWAT crew once responded to a guy that locked himself in his house and eventually blew himself up.
After the fire was out, they went in and someone asked: "You find him?"
The answer was: "Yeah. We found some of him..."
I feel so stupid. This movie was what 12 years ago?? I just realized what he meant with that line 😂😂
Genius! 😂
It’s funny how at “3:30” he was actually mocking Batman’s voice, best joker ever
XD
Nice observation, lol
Never noticed it before
thank you
Lol I thought he was talking like that because he was straining under batman's fists 😂 props for figuring it out 👌🏻
Shit I think Heath would actually make an excellent Batman Who Laughs just imagine it
i honestly believe heath ledger’s joker is the best performance of a villain ever, i wish he could’ve had a solo movie like joaquin phoenix did
Yeah, he wanted to do one with Ledger, but R.I.P. Wish he lived enough so we saw such an amazing performance again.
I would love to know who gave him the scars. My theory when he was a young hoodlum he f--ked with the wrong guy.
Emperor Palpatine: Am I a joke to you!!!
I never liked ledgers joker.. I thought it sucked tbh
@@TheSands83
What... I'm scared to ask but how could you possibly think this legendary role as the joker sucked? I mean I like to respect peoples opinions, but when it goes against logic itself I can't help but judge.
Heath Ledger, best Joker ever
So sad we lost this great talent
"I don't want to kill you.. what would I do without you?" just shows how deep the Joker's feelings are for Batman.. He views them as the same
The Joker and The Batman are definitely a thing.
@@budhajigaonkar2251 no
Batman & The Joker are Two Sides of the same Coin
You know he means it when he says this too. Killing him for the mobsters was always a sham.
Batman’s philosophy: Humans are naturally good. Their environment makes them act badly.
The Joker’s philosophy: Humans are naturally bad. Their environment makes them act good.
That’s an extreme oversimplification, but their ideological conflict is based on human nature. This is why the Joker is fine with Batman killing him. It’s proves his point. It shows that everyone, even the most incorruptible person, can be corrupted. That our nature, when “all the chips are down” devolves into chaos, not of order. Getting Harvey Dent to turn was the Jokers masterpiece. So much so that Batman and the Gordon choose to lie because they knew how devastating it would be if Gotham found out.
They respect each other, because they both have good points. This is truly a beautifully written movie and it’s no wonder that it set a new standard for what a superhero movie should be.
*Heath Ledger was truly one of the most legendary people to ever portray the Joker, Rest In Peace...* ❤️
Lauren W. You mean THE most legendary person to ever portray the Joker.
Out of the 3 people who have ?
Uncle Crispy cultured
Agree ! Rest in peace ❤
We have 5 fantastic performances (that I can think of):
1) Cesar Romero
2) Jack Nicholson
3) Heath Ledger
4) Joaquin Phoenix
5) MARK HAMILL.
People need to talk more about Bale’s performance in this scene. He absolutely killed it.
@Tom Ford Wait What
You know what? Come to think about it, both Christian Bale and Gary Oldman actually could play really good as Joker as well, looking how crazy they were in American Psycho and Leon The Professional, that's how really good actors in this movie are..
But still, Ledger took the cake..
@Tom Ford you english not great, very not good
@@irvancrocs1753 nah Gary Oldman killed it in the fifth element
Bale and Ledger both nailed it
Man, movie Joker can never catch a break these days.
We only get a one-shot performance from this legend.
Jared Leto.
Joaquin's Joker got brutally crushed in the sequel.
It's almost like a curse at this point.
I don't think there's ever gonna be a Batman Joker scene that will top this scene ever. The intensity,acting,tension all on point, an absolute masterpiece
A masterpiece
Well yea there won’t be since ledgers gone 😭
Never ever my friend
The thing is, every batman movie can try and will try to do a scene like this. But honestly this scene, especially because of Heath,will always be better.
if you ever listened to the music score it starts to turn up a lot with the joker. it amplifies when the intensity gets worse. watch this scene and notice how it changes.
4:17
This right here is the greatest laugh the Joker has ever delivered. It’s a perfect mix of genuine pleasure and absolute insanity. It’s truly nothing short of perfection.
Fucking spine chilling it gets me every time. There will never be a better joker period
And to think this was the first scene he did
Yup that's the scene where I first felt fear in a comic book movie. Such an incredible and iconic scene, and one of my all time favorite
@@Jackflip1996 really? That’s cool. I never knew that ha
The best thing about it is that he starts laughing as soon as batman start to swing his punch. As soon as he knew he was about to get hit, he loved it and started laughing
I always say this, I will always love how he says “Do I really look like a guy with a plan,” & yet he’s planning everything, he planned to give Batman the wrong addresses, plant the bomb in his crew member, etc.
He's a liar lol he tells different stories when he explains his scars
@@jzip What is the true story? I dont know the truth.
@@dragonborn523 that's the point, joker is unreliable. he doesn't give a proper story.
yeah he sure does know how to outsmart someone.
@@dragonborn523 it's intentionally left vague, but it's been heavily implied that he's an ex military vet who's been psychologically damaged by the war.
4:16
I'm kinda sad not many people are talking about this moment, him laughing and looking at batman's fist before it even hits him is just terrifying and fucking great acting.
It is crazy that Ledger actually asked Christian to hurt him during this scene
Thanks to your comment, people will see it. like me xd
@Gino, I didn't found any source that says that though. You're the Joker.
@@erinsmith698 yes he is right. I have read the same article that said heath actually asked bale to connect with some of the punches.
@@erinsmith698 look harder
Joaquin Pheonix isn’t the Joker, it’s this legend right here
@Bryan.Branly I agree Heath Leger is the best Joker here, and I saw Joker 2 yesterday, and what I had to say is it was bad and it was horrible the worst film I've seen in 2024.
Worst film?? No
Now that Joker 2 was not good for people, they came back here. I think both performances are very good. Even though they are both great actors, obviously the script is the last piece to complete a character as memorable. A bad script would make any of these look bad.
Well joker 2 is a plop 😂😂
@@tobsonasanya4765 Not the "worst" movie of this year but definitely the most disappointing sequel of the year
What defines the Joker and this performance to me is when The Joker says: "You have NOTHING to threaten me with, NOTHING you can do with all your strength." Stellar writing and performance.
now I Gotta Bash the bat As Superman , all that deep Base head smashing audio Giving Me A HeadAche ROAR DeMeow
JW , Joker Should be like a Male LUCY
The root cause of the school shootings..this mindset the shooter carries knowing he will die anyways..it's not about mental illness at all, "Killing is a making a choice" like Joker said
thats what makes the dark knight, and batman begins just brilliant,, they are smart nolan flicks
I wouldn't say the writing is good
It's mediocre
3 Things I love about this scene.
1. Heath’s performance… obviously
2. Christian Bale’s performance as Batman you can tell there’s a difference between his performance as Bruce and his performance as Batman. It’s hard to believe Bruce is the one in the mask beating up joker.
3. Ledger told Bale to actually punch him in the face to make the scene more realistic. And he did, and they both stayed in character the whole time. Amazing!
He didn't really punch him
@@tonyfear707proof?
Completely agree with everything you said… obviously… but Don’t forget 4. Hans Zimmer’s hair raising Joker Score which when It starts builds the Intensity and then gradually gets louder and louder as the Interrogation goes on and Batman gets more Angry with rage and more violent.
@@tonyfear707 really? the punch and the sound was too realistic
Are you under the impression that putting on a Batman costume transforms him into another person?
The line..you have nothing to threaten me with..sends a chill still..brilliant Heath Ledger..
His voice significantly changes in that line too it’s like the facade he’s putting on breaks because he’s having so much fun
What if Batman threatened to cut his testicles off? Would that have changed Joker's stance?
@@whisperingaprayer42 Probably not, the point is that the Joker didn't give a shit about anyone--including himself. As far as he's concerned, Batman torturing him would only prove how easily "good" people can be driven to commit evil.
@@BiffGreggle good point!
Yeah, its a great line! It basically sums up the Jokers character.
That thing with his tongue drives me literally crazy. Phenomenal acting
“He could be in 1 place, or several” hilariously genius foreshadowing.
What did he foreshadow?
hola amigos that his body parts could be scattered across the city in the explosions. (Wasn’t foreshadowing death but that he was in a situation that could kill him via explosives)
@@nabbernicus daaaamn.. thanks for that! 😂
@hola amigos nothing Ben g is just using the word wrong
Matthew Kim yep pretty much lmao. My bad.
“Tonight you’re going to break your one rule” I didn’t realize till now that he was talking about Harvey and Rachel, that he was willing to let Harvey die for Rachel
Even though it wasn’t tonight, another thing to point out was he really did break his rule when he killed Harvey Dent. While you could argue he just didn’t save Ra’s Al Ghul and Rachel, he really did kill Harvey when he threw off the side of the building. The Joker was right.
He actually broke his rule by killing Harvey to save the boy
Mody Arif true, but at this time before Harvey became two-face, Batman was willing to let him die know what he means to Gotham, it’s even shown in the dark knight rises how safe the city is through the dent act, but it is based on a lie, but also it is pretty hard to miss how many times Bruce puts Harvey’s life in danger
@@captain_cage2024 that's actually a good point. Funnily enough, joker's schemes ended up saving Gotham
Raul Arreola and had he chosen Harvey, he was willing to let Rachel die. It’s the same anyway.
4:31 I love how the Joker has to think real quick, reversing the street addresses in his head, knowing that batman won't have the time to think about it, and also knowing that he will go for Rachel instead of Harvey. Such brilliant and believable acting.
The whole entire point of this joker is that’s he’s a liar. He parades as someone without a plan but he constantly always was planning ahead. He knew bat would go to china so he tried to plan ahead. He knew Rachel was going to die that plan was solely to emotionally damage Dent I don’t think he accounted for the accident but he benefited from it regardless. His plan to blow the boats up. He planned ahead if the people didn’t blow each other up. And the hospital bombing he went there to fire dent up and turned him into a murder machine. He was literally a man with a plan at all times. Including this one.
Another lie I forgot to mention. He lies about the story of how he got his scars He tells the mob boss 1 story and Rachel another, and I assume with his track record of being a habitual liar, neither story were true
Oh..I wondered why Batman went for Rachel and ended up saving Harvey. Didn't even notice that.
Is that what happened. Bruh I thought it was a continuity error 😂
Yeah and when the Joker said that he's 'going to break his one rule' he didn't mean killing the joker to get information. I think he meant that in his attempt to save one of them, he will be making the choice to kill the other (even if he thinks that the police will get in time to the other one)
@@empyreanpromethean4831 It's because he KNEW Batman would succeed in rescuing whoever he chose, and he KNEW he'd go for Rachel. So he switched the addresses because he needed Harvey alive to continue his plan, and he knew Batman would get to him in time. He also knew that Rachel dying would destroy Harvey enough to flip him.
“Depending on the time he may be in one spot or several.” God that was diabolical
In my honest opinion, Heath Ledger’s joker portrayal is still the greatest cinematic performance of ALL TIME.. Till this day, I truly can not believe that was really him under all that makeup and emotion.. he flat out stole the show.. ‘08 was crazy..
@Cat Lover the role's effect on him is seriously exaggerated. he couldn't sleep because he was meeting with Steven Spielberg the next day, which you can imagine would be stressful
@@halfghanistan so how did he die?
@@mr.silhouette6252 he mixed the medication because he couldn't sleep but not because of his Joker role, it was because he was meeting Steven Spielberg the next day which would probably be stressful for anyone. it's really disrespectful when people try to say that it was his role that killed him - it wasn't
@@halfghanistan so this was right after they had done the movie?
@@mr.silhouette6252 Heath passed away in January 2008.. The Dark Knight was released in July 2008
The saddest thing about this scene is that everything Joker’s saying is right. His intelligence is what makes him so dangerous.
Dang bro people still commenting
Your SO close to understanding the point of the joker
Not really. His theory is proven wrong when the two boats don't blow each other up
No it's not. If that were right (and the speech is exactly backwards from what he means, so they fucked that up too) then society would never have gotten off the ground.
@@tatenichols7968 that because it's a movie , irl everybody would press the button
"These civilsed people will eat each other"
-Heath Ledger 2008
"Everybody just yells and screams at each other nobody is civil anymore"
-Joaquin Phoenix 2019
2008
2019
lazord hoee 2020
These not this
That's GOTHAM then vs now...😄
The best god damn joker, alot of people was doubting him playing the role
"They need you right now...but when they don't...they'll cast you out" - and the Joker was correct. As Gordon says at the end of the film, "he's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need, right now".
And he knows that. Is why he planned to have Dent take his place.
@@kashu8774 I don’t think that’s true. He planned to have Dent replace him because he wanted to be with Rachel
That's how hollywood, or any corporation, works.
@@ericsonofjohn9384 no that was his entire plan from Batman begins. To create a symbol that will inspire the creation of other symbols. the dark knight is like Murphy's law in that the wrong symbols emerge. The fake Batmen with hockey pads and shotguns, the joker, the false projection of the white knight, and the tainted symbol of the bat. In the dark knight rises, Bruce's dream finally congeals into Robin and Catwoman.
@@ericsonofjohn9384 He never *planned* for Dent to replace him.
Even if the Joker loses, he wins.
reminds me of injustice 2 joker. even though he died, he still won
Yes he said that time will come when they will turn against you when they dont need you
Exactly what happened
@@sub-zero5433 Didn't the 1st one die, or is there a 2nd Joker?
@@mikeoxmaul45
He died in Injustice 1
@@mikeoxmaul45 the injustice universe joker was killed, but not the main one
No superpowers, no aim to destroy the world, no badass muscles. But still the most dangerous 😈 villain ever. It is the confidence that makes you villain or a hero.
along with intelligence, dedication and proven skill. you cant be a confident bumbling tumbling idiot. that wont get you anywhere
So true the joker is dangerous because he is a ruthless genius
@@whereTheDooDoo-is it got trump into the oval office.
@@michaelmorse4444 you're feel to believe whatever you want to believe brother
@@whereTheDooDoo-is land of the feel, home of the brave.
Heath ledger put on maybe the best acting performance EVER. Dude was talented
Heath Ledger's performance in this movie was incredible.
yes,even after 12 years it's still amazing.
Tell me somethin I don't know there sleek
Definitely, it's his best scene in this film. He was great in The Dark Knight. I miss Heath.
Hot take
He actually got punched in the face right there. That was a real punch. That's commitment.
Just remember this, the casting of Heath as The Joker met with so much criticism and backlash from fans and there was an online petition for a recast. Even Jack Nicholson was concern and furious about the casting, he also warned Heath about playing the character. Well look what happened after the movie's release, oh how the tables have turned......
I don't get the backlash really. I've seen clips of Jack Nicholson's Joker and he doesn't hold a candle to Heath Ledger. Hell even Mark Hamill does a better job than him
I won't lie I didn't like the idea of Health Ledger playing as joke, but as you can see I was terribly wrong .
If Black Panther was mentioned anywhere in the comments section, The Dork Knight fans would start crying because Black Panther thrashed TDK in every criteria like
Rotten tomatoes
Metacritic
Box office
Oscars
Cinemascore
@@ashokkumarganesan3927 who actually cares about ratings tho
@@ashokkumarganesan3927 And, yet, it's still not nearly as good as TDK.
"Don't talk like one of them, you're not!" Heath Ledger's performance will forever be one of the best of all time
The dark Knight trilogy are for kids
The Batman and Joker are for adults
Glad Heath was in brokeback because that why way Nolan picked him. His acting was fucking insane. Expressed pain and grief in a quiet, subtle way. And when he fought others, i was shocked how intimidating he was.
You can imagine my hype when he was announced as the Joker. Had such high expectations... And STILL wasn't ready
by the end of this film joker was right
@@lickenhuntsman5338 You're a little mixed up. The batman is for redditor edge lord children that are going through the emo phase. Joker, eh, it was good but they're killing it with making a second one, that's going to be peak stupidity.
Batman👿🦇🌑 and Joker😈🃏🌑 were always Emo,and there's nothing wrong.@@Rysarod
The Dark Knight is 10/10
Heath Ledger’s role as the joker cannot even be topped in my opinion. He completely nailed the joker. It can’t be beaten. Love it. This movie is a gem that’ll age like wine
We will NEVER forget this movie, or this scene. Powerful and outstanding performance by Christian Bale and the late Heath Ledger.
Hum...what movie?
@@XDjorgeXDful The Dark Knight.
@@XDjorgeXDful what do u mean; did u just get out of a cave
@@juicymullet585 bale is an amazing actor
@@juicymullet585 You have not seen Christian Bale in other movies such as American Psycho, The Machinist, Public Enemies, The Fighter, American Hustle: I could go on and on but his resume with movies speaks for itself. He is definitely a talented Actor, and goes to great lengths to get into his characters as the late Heath Ledger has done the same.
That said, you are entitled to your opinion.
"You have nothing... nothing to threaten me with! Nothing to do with all your strength!"
Now that's somethign you never wanna hear from the person you're trying to intimidate. Seriously, that line gives me chills. Batman's realizing that there is indeed nothing he can do to break The Joker.
He could shatter his arms and legs and cut his tongue out. "Lets see how much laughter you have clown" I would love an alternate scene where Batman does that but he would definitely be an anti hero after that
@@SepsisPanda Pretty sure the joker would still be laughing but on the inside.
@@alexthomas6274 maybe and that would be amazing if as the Joker is laying there can't speak or move we hear his thoughts saying "oh bats they will never forgive you for being so brutal and cold HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!"
@@SepsisPanda That or why so serious bats lol
@@SepsisPanda then Joker wins if Batman did that, would have completely broken the Bat by ripping Joker apart.
The acting of Ledger in this scene just made this whole movie greater. His willingness to give it all. And still tell jokes and not be in character between scenes proves how great an actor he was
"A man who has not prepared his children for his own death has failed as a father".
The above line has more meaning than The Dark Knight Trilogy combined.
@@desipop3654 Lmao, ok troll
@Black Minecart Lmfao dude, this had me CRYING. Omfg, this is actually perfect.
@@desipop3654 The dark Knight trilogy is better than the Black panther movie
@@mr.rooster1154 1,000,000 times better. And this is coming from someone who actually LIKES Black Panther. Like, a lot.
4:18 that laugh is horrifying.
The most terrifying thing about the Joker is that he has a point
I honestly prefer characters with depth like (Joaquin's Joker, Fassbender's Magneto, RDJ's Stark) than one-dimensional characters like (Evans' Steve Rogers, Bale's Wayne, Ledger's Joker)
@@desipop3654 ledgers joker made you actually think he’s right
@@desipop3654 you think bale's wayne and ledger's joker are 1 dimensional? Wow that's not even worth arguing jesus
The best villains always have a point.
Well he doesn’t but it can seem compelling. The one line of dialogue I find disjointed is “they’re only as good as the world allows them to be”. From my understanding that implies the police and law enforcement have a pure and righteous ideology on an individual level that can’t be realized because of the society they exist in. Perhaps that’s true in Gotham but certainly not in this world. Insofar as he is referring to the film’s reality, part of the corruption that led Gotham to become a haven of crime was corruption that had to exist in every level of law enforcement including the people he suggests “are only as good as the world *allows* them to be.
Don't get me wrong, Heath Ledger's performance stole the show, but let's appreciate how good Bale was in this trilogy, especially in this scene.
oh fuck
YES
I AGREE
yeah most def my favorite batman
The only thing was the follow-up movie was so bad. I did not care for a realistic, mumbling Bane. I wanted a hulked-out guy breaking Batman.
Joaquin Phoenix was amazing but heath ledger still keeps the crown of best live action joker and that will never change r.i.p
Ok boomer
John Doe ok zoomer.
@@JohnDoe-tm9wz ok zoomer
@@nguyengiahuy1547 Yo mama
Because "The Joker" movie was inspired by the Dark Knight's joker character.
Batman is literally punching the makeup off of Joker.
"Never start with the head the victim gets all fuzzy!..." *Batman proceeds to give the Joker a prostate exam.*
*Performs a prostatectomy*
*inserts* and thrusts
Tf is wrong with you
@@ace2k472 welcome to the 21st century
@@ace2k472 welcome to the family son! *punch*
I love that scene because Joker actually teaches Batman a lesson. When the Joker tells him the address of where they are Batman prefers to save Rachel over Harvey and it contradicts what Batman stands for. Hero’s make sacrifices for the greater good and instead of saving Harvey for the greater of Gotham he tries to save Rachel.
Which is a painful irony because if he'd made that "sacrificed" he would have saved her. Joker knew all the players and how they'd proceed against each other.
@@geordiejones5618 That's the thing. Joker's schemes always reward people if they make the selfless choice. They're always punished for being selfish and that's what makes him so brilliant.
@@ThoughtSpinnr Goddamn it, why are my eyes teary reflecting on all of this!?
underrated
@@ThoughtSpinnr Excellent way to portray a nemesis.
The fact that this movie is almost 15 years old and still holds up really shows the passion that went into this!
-R.I.P ledger, the absolute legend.
This movie not only "holds up", it's plain better than the vast majority of more modern superhero movies
But who did he portray?
How is that Joker?
@@BLASTER0913 What you talking about?
@@blipblip4202
Who did he portray? Because that sure wasn’t Joker from DC comics lore.
@@BLASTER0913 In what ways? You can't just say something subjectively wrong without providing context.
The Joker is a fine movie, but the idea that it compares with this version of the Joker is absolutely laughable.
4:07 - Joker : Killing is making a choice
Choose between one life or the other .
4:36 - Joker : And that's the point
You have to choose .
Rachel died because batman choose her .
nice
The whole point was to break Batman inside, so he fail to get the most desired, even after making such a hard choice.
Joker is freakin' genius !
and do not forget this, The Joker was switched the address
That was the purpose of the joker, Dent wanted to use his pain to make it like one of his own.
Saying “You have nothing to threaten me with, nothing to do with all your strength “ while getting beaten up, is a freaking powerful gesture
The Batman was on his last draw and one step from killing him right there totally lost control!
@@nickmartinka679and he will lost both of them eventually
It's so accurate too. Watching this you knew there was nothing Batman could do to intimidate him at that point. What a fantastic character. One of the best I've ever seen.
This scene is a terrifying scene. Those violin strings get me every time while Batman is beating the hell out of the joker and he’s lust laughing.
Don't trust me but I've read somewhere that they used a violin bow over piano strings to give it that tone which has no melody or something.
Like a beautiful mess.
Hans Zimmer just doing his fantastic job with Nolan
@@dissonant__ Not trying to be nitpicky, but i think it's a cello bow going over cello strings.
sounded more like a siren.
Reminds me of the first scenes in “There Will Be Blood”. Another Christopher Nolan movie.
Came here to clense my eyes after Joker 2
“Does it depress you commissioner? To know just how alone you really are?”
Hits me every time
Yup. Every character in the movie thinks the Joker is just yapping about different shit but when you think about it in reality, he’s been trying to speak true words to his foes.
Every time he says that line I get instantly depressed lmao
Lol yet Batman was in the room with him
4:16 the way he looks at batman's fist and laughs before he gets punched is beyond acting.
That's actually kind of creepy... (Thanks! lol)
Especially considering that Ledger told Bale to actually hit him and not just fake it.
Ho. Lee. Shit.
He does it, coz he gets a kick out of Batman beating the crap out of him. He's brought him down to his masochist level.
God damn that’s insane
Still can't believe Heath ledger let Christian Bale actually hit him which truly shows Heath's dedication to the film..
If I got the chance to be the most popular super villain in all of history then I’d let anybody punch me 😂
Christian Bale actually hit Heath Ledger?
@@primalvelocity3811 yeah there were dents in the table from where Heaths head was slammed, and the mirror on the wall actually was shattered. Heath Ledger did that because he was a method actor and he wanted to really put himself in the role, he only broke character once and it was to ask someone if they were okay after slamming their head on a pencil
@@jamesdavies9987 Truly impressive.
No just shows what happens when Hollywood steals a soul.
Gordon: He's in control.
Oh, you have NO idea.