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This reaction made me emotional can’t express how much i enjoyed that thank you guys so much. This was a flawless film indeed. My discord isn’t working rn so I didn’t even know it’s in the list awesome surprise. Love you S&N
I watched Whiplash when it was first released and it blew me away. The anxiety alone that I felt watching this was overwhelming but in the best way possible. J.K. Simmons was such an awesome yet unlikeble character but I couldn't look away or bring myself to doubt him either. Miles Teller also did a great job and Steven was right about the tight shots, they really give the movie a lot of flavour and style that really suits the tone. I wish I could watch it for the first time all over again but this is just as good seeing you guys watch it.
Some people are abusers and can kill you. For me this is about how to survive a psychopath or narcissist, who would like to destroy you. If you are naive you die. If you are aware, what tricks the bully performs, you can prepare a plan, and stay alive. Andrew has learned the hard way that he can´t play nice, he lost all angst toward this abusive "teacher", and he attacked Fletcher 2x (1. helped to cick him out of school. 2.And at the last concert Andrew saved his own reputation as a drummer, when Fletcher tried to trick him). Some people are sick, they will try to abuse/destroy you, they are not your friends, teachers, spouses, even if they have this role or wear this mask (of politness sometimes). Be aware and prepared.
This film was made in just 19 days, with Damian Chazelle even continuing to work after being hospitalized in a car accident. Which of course makes the scene of Andrew trying to play after a car accident pretty eerily prophetic.
*Shot in 19 days. Which isn’t surprising at all. It takes place in one city, most of the shots are planned out before shooting and it has few locations.
Wow.. that's pretty crazy, because it definitely took Simmons longer than 19 days to embody the Fletcher character.. guessing the New York location shots probably took the longest..
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Also, the shot of Dad’s face at the end is so good on so many levels. On the surface, what you said about him realizing what his son is actually capable of. But beyond that, it’s also tragic; his dad is realizing that what Andrew said at dinner is right. In reality, Fletcher won, he successfully broke Andrew and as a result created an historic musician, but he is now a slave to the music, and at what cost? Probably dead by his 30s as he predicted.
Any time I see someone with this take, it makes me so upset. The movie is definitely tragic in its own way, but it's not because "Fletcher won" or "Fletcher broke Andrew" or anything like that. When people say that, it takes so much AWAY from Andrew; it makes him a victim of Fletcher's. Sean Casey, the character in the movie who committed suicide, is someone that Fletcher broke, and THAT is tragic. But Andrew is someone who ROSE TO THE OCCASION, as sad as that might be in a way. Andrew and Fletcher are two sides to the same coin -- and proves as much when he says at that family dinner that he would rather be the one who dies young and is remembered than the one who dies old and is forgotten. He already had that in him, which is a big point of the movie. I think that the message the movie conveys is that, as sick as it might make you feel, Fletcher is right about what it takes to generate greatness, and Andrew is incredible for achieving it. The gravity of the movie, though, is that the viewer -- after being faced with that message and that experience first (second) hand -- is left to figure out whether or not greatness is worth what it costs.
@@ZaydeGG That's always been my take as well. Looking at almost anyone that's TRULY great at something, they aren't just inherently great. Yes, they have talent others might not have, but they put in fanatical amounts of work.
@@ZaydeGG I read your comment several times and Im not really understanding how your opinion is different from mine. Of course Andrew had an innate drive as well, but so did the student who ended up unaliving. Fletcher is the trigger, and his point is that all of the greats had some sort of trigger regardless of their talent. Fletcher is talented at finding those people and figuring out how to exploit it. The problem is he is psychopathic and exploits it for reasons beyond just extracting the best from them. I dont think that takes any agency away from the students at all.
The way I see it is both of them won, not just Fletcher. Both Andrew and Fletcher got what they wanted because they worked towards the same goal. You’re saying he’s a slave to the music, but you can say that about anyone who excels in a certain practice. What would that be a bad thing, if the person is getting what he wants? He predicted his death in his 30s, and preferred it to be that way if it meant that he would become one of the greats. This means that he didn’t really care about the cost, and it was absolutely worth it for him. That’s all that matters tbh. If he was truly happy and satisfied with it, then who are we say that it’s not worth it for him?
@@znk0r A lot of people seem to misunderstand the ending, unfortunately. Andrew literally walks away from his own father, who is trying to console him, to seek approval from an emotional terrorist.
The director stated in an interview that Andrew most likely ended up like most great jazz musicians do: dead at a young age, full of drugs, and with nothing left. It’s a truly chilling thought that really contextualizes the ending in a way that you may not have guessed at first viewing. This movie is a masterpiece man.
I think most people get it. The question is more, is this a happy ending. Andrew said it himself. This is all he wanted, and hes getting it. Everybody knows how andrews story ends.
Yes but go back to the dinner table conversation - Andrew literally acknowledged that possibility and said he’s rather die a legend at 30 than live to 90 and be a nobody.
He probably died young on drugs or he probably doesn't end up like that at all. Some people have a stronger tolerance to stress than others. I noticed a pattern with common people. they all love to lean towards the idea that fits the narrative of their laziness. "He probably ended up dead anyway, so why try?" Well, we all end up dead anyway. Kids get shot up in schools and don't live to tomorrow, so nothing is promised. Why not give it your freaking all? But that's what separates the 1% from the 99%, I guess.
I am a Jiu Jitsu guy. I’ve always said that the greatest enemy of excellence is mediocrity. Same sentiment. But I think the “good job” line boils it down better and hits harder
I totally felt the dinner table scene. Because I'm a professional musician, and teacher. A lot of my family still call it a phase, or a guitar thing, or band thing. But I have touched hearts, created music that I and others enjoy, made family members from other bands and schools, and sent many students to music programs. I felt that. Never let someone tell you what to do with your life. Do what makes you happy, even if it doesn't draw support from your family. Love you guys, and keep reacting :)
I'm an Actor and a Singer and in my family's eyes, I don't 'work'. I don't have a 'serious job'. I'm 'only playing'. And the saddest part is, getting a big opportunity in this industry is harder than finding a needle in a haystack. And everyday that passes, my family reaffirms what they believe about me. But I keep on trying. I don't know if I keep on trying because I'm brave enough to stick to my dreams and what makes me happy or just a coward that refuses to live a sad empty life.
To me the real purpose of a movie is to tell a story while eliciting an emotional response in the viewer that sticks with them long after it is over. Yup, mission accomplished.
The best part about this movie is the director’s comments about the ending. He said this is not a “happy” ending, and that Andrew does indeed die in his early 30’s from drug/alcohol overdose, but does become a legend (according to what he imagined) So it’s not a “sad” ending either. It just raises all sorts of inspiration and questions in what it takes to be great, and is being great/remembered worth it? To some, yes. To others, no. To all…who knows? Is the sacrifice worth it? Absolutely incredible film and performances.
@@danielruiz8259 living a life full of pain and suffering just for a legacy you cannot experience (because you’re dead) doesn’t seem good to me either. Especially considering how many living legends there are that are musical wizards (people like cory Henry, or more popular people like Elton John etc) Perhaps there are some people that just value the legacy more and consider it a fair trade. HOWEVER, they’d have to make that trade willingly, and have it be an informed decision. Fletcher pressures and manipulates people, he uses their insecurities to coerce them into destroying themselves. Yes, they get a legacy, but the most direct benefit is that fletcher gets a good reputation and a good job out of the students he sucks dry. How many of fletcher’s prodigies went into that life knowing they would be involved with alcohol/drug abuse and die young? My biggest gripe is that the alternative practice is so achievable! I just don’t see what’s so hard about making legendary music without slapping people. Across the history of music, you see many examples of exactly this. When you consider how available non-abusive methods are, quickly turning to abuse looks even more cruel.
So it is a happy ending. Andrew achie ed what he wanted and openly admitted the sacrifice and consequences were worth it. Fletcher found his parker and his methods worked in this case. Both are smiling at the end. Its a peferctly happy ending.
@@danielruiz8259 Nah, you just have different ambitions. For some people, having a loving wife and kids and dying a peaceful death in your 90's is an unattainable pipe dream. It's all about perspective.
@@itiswhatitis141 agreed, acted well but the intensity during his practices was overshadowed by his arms flailing wildly. He looked good and can certainly play, but he cant play these parts.
@@itiswhatitis141 Wrong. If you read the articles about the movie you’ll see what was reported by editor, director and cast. Miles’ form was helped by editing but 99% of the drumming was him. He worked hard to be able to play those parts.
As a professional dancer/performance artist who went to a performing arts school before moving on to company life, I can say, “YES. It can be this intense.” But when your so passionate about your art it often doesn’t matter how mind numbing, or physically taxing it is. You just want to do the best you can in any given moment. Essentially giving it your all during each performance or practice because that’s how you improve. Honestly, this is such a good movie and shows that being an artist isn’t always sunshine and rainbows. Awesome reaction y’all!
At first, I thought the ending was a happy one but now I realize Andrew’s just gonna keep getting stuck in that cycle of validation and self worth being in the hands of Fletcher. This is what Fletcher wanted all along, for Andrew’s sole focus in life to be drumming (hence Andrew’s dad’s look on his face at the end. Fletcher made a monster out of his son)…it’s kinda sad and a tragic ending
@@crankfastle8138 that’s one way to look at it. Yeah they’re realizing their dreams, but at what cost? Fletcher drove one of his past students to kill himself. Andrew lashed out against his own family at the dinner table and broke up with the girl that he had gained confidence to even ask out. It’s honestly really tragic
@@crankfastle8138 in theory, the film ends with the main character getting what he wants, but at the cost of his humanity. It’s supposed to open up discussion as to whether or not it’s worth it. But the ending is not happy, as the film suggests Andrew will not be happy doing this, but will continue to do anyways out of compulsion to be great (the film was titled: obsession, in other countries, in case you don’t believe me)
The one thing that always got me about this movie is that the villain wins. That final smile he gave him was proving himself right: that he could do anything to square it by having results. That's why is father looked so sad at the end. He realized his son fell for the bait
@Move_I_Got_This I agree with the director that it's not a happy ending. If someone feels that giving their life to their passion is worth it, so be it; it's their life.
@Move_I_Got_This Nah this is 100% about physical and mental abuse under the guise of “teaching people to become better”. Fletcher is manipulating, violent, gaslighting, and bullying his underlings the entire time passing it off as teaching. From the start, Fletcher props him up and fills him with confidence, to then crush it and get Andrew to seek his approval immediately. Once he’s done that, then it’s about constantly giving and taking so that he doesn’t feel like he’s making any progress with getting said approval. Abusers only stop their abuse once the victim is attempting to push back (Andrew getting him fired) as a way to ease them back under their control, and once they are there, they will crush them even further for thinking they can do that against them (Fletcher trying to embarrass Andrew in front of a crowd at the end). Andrew playing along with Fletcher at the very end tells Fletcher that he’s fully under his control and that his abuse was valid. Andrew lost because he gave in to Fletchers abuse.
@Move_I_Got_This This is a false dichotomy. The choices aren't "Not caring" and "Aggressive abuse", and even if they were, people respond very differently to varying levels of challenge, stress and motivation. There is a middle ground and a healthy way to push people past their limits without going to places that are so abusive. The tragedy of this story is that Fletcher is absolutely an abuser. He doesn't care about Andrew. He only cares if Andrew is good so that he can say "I discovered him". And the reason he gets his hooks into Andrew is because his own family are so dismissive of the things he is passionate about. He's looking for validation and not finding it from those close to him, so he ends up looking for it in other places, and that eventually ends up being incredibly unhealthy.
Intense is the perfect word. I've never seen a sport movie or a drama or even a heavy emotional story in any film that was anywhere close to the intensity of this film.
the fact that miles teller was the one playing the drums (not on set but his recordings were used) and giving absolutely brilliant performance in his breakout role while also being paid 8 thousand dollars for all of it is INSANE
I did that as well!! I was blown away by cinema and what it could be beyond the traditional big box office movies. Absolutely loved those films, still rewatch them.
This was so on point with my high school music conductor! No physical violence and the insults weren't quite that level, but the rage you see during practice is REAL😅but after the concert/event, they would always drop the persona to show their appreciation for the hardwork put in and the payoff when we'd win competitions made it feel worth it. But never took it to the college level😬I'm sure it probably gets pretty intense
Oh, hell yeah. Competitive band was crazy even in high school. Whole other level compared to when I did sports in high school. And those kids that only did sports didn’t believe me till I invited some to just stand outside of the practice rooms. The “soundproof” rooms that you could very clearly hear our conductor reaming our asses from outside. After that they got it lol
@@pajander thanks, but just like any sport, it can be done competitively. I appreciate being driven to be the best we could be and learn the importance of details and perfecting a skill. I wouldn't consider our treatment as abusive, but definitely startling how intense and passionate people can be about something so classical and elegant as concert music. It offered a perspective that was very unique, and I think the film captured that perspective, but just took it to an even greater extreme
This film is truly a masterpiece, it's rare that you see the protagonist and antagonist both get exactly what they wanted from the beginning in such a stylish fashion.
This movie was my entire band experience in middle school and high school. Our band played for national competitions, marched in Macy's, the whole nine yards. Throwing things druing practice was not uncommon. The stress was through the roof.
Same here. When Fletcher throws the chair, I'm always like -- yep, been there! In marching/concert, I was a flute, and I don't know how many times we'd duck to avoid having the band director's music stand and/or drum stick (used for keeping time) hit us! Funnily enough, it seems like he was usually hurling it at the drummers! 🤣
No things were thrown at me but I sure got beat down with my beater multiple times. Really hurts but played it off. Now that I think about it, it never came to me as scary and fully accepted it as part of the journey.
Apparently Miles did a lot of drum practicing for the movie (and played when he was younger) so the shots are all him just with adr drums. Great react once again!
Fletcher makes Nieman count off to 215bpm and insults him for getting it wrong. Thing is, Nieman had perfect timing. This movie asks the question how far are you willing to go to be considered "great".
Yeah that look on his dad's face wasn't a realization of how good his son is, it was a look of absolute horror as he was realizing he had lost his son.
According to the movie's script (and this is the real script), Andrew's father realises that he has lost his son, and that his son has sacrificed their relationship to "be great."
i remember sitting at my kit for hours working on doubles. crying my head off and so many cracks of my knuckles on the side of my snare. It was worth every tear. And you are correct, after a while you do learn to just become part of the music and you go in your zone. kind of like the runners wall. You get there can hardly stand it, then pass right through and just play your brains out. It's awesome
if the word stress or tense was a movie i think it would be this one probs to the actors cause i felt the tension the stress and the pressure in every second of this movie just intense
I used to be a drummer and I did karate for a couple of years. One would assume fighting is way more stressful than just playing the drums, but boy oh boy it's 100% the other way around, music is INTENSE
That shot of Andrew's dad at the final solo is a father who is realizing that his son will be a great musician and will probably die young, drugged up, and broke.
Its one of my personal favourite films. Incredible truly incredible. As someone who played in school bands and orchestras even touring as a kid/teen I can absolutely appreciate this pursuit of perfection and how it can mess you up big time.
As a professional composer and studio musician I can say that studying jazz at a top Conservatory in jazz studies AND with world renowned jazz musicians was one of the most challenging experiences of my life besides battling a rare chronic illness. I always enjoyed this film and have a very high respect for jazz drummers and percussionists in general.
JK Simmons is phenomenal in this film! The intensity when I watched it for the first time was incredible and still is to this day! I loved when Nikki goes "I love him too, he's fantastic!" just because I knew what was gonna come from JK's performance! Great movie and reaction!
Not so fun fact, the director of the movie said "Fletcher will always think he won and Andrew will be a sad, empty shell of a person and will die in his 30s of a drug overdose. I have a very dark view of where it goes" which was foreshadowed at 24:24
Loved your conversation at the end about tough love. Everyone is different. Success looks different for everyone. I'm a teacher, and I find teaching a standardised curriculum while trying to engage students who are all different people with varying interests and capabilities one of the hardest things about teaching. Once you 'know' your students (to the extent that you can know them as a teacher, anyway), it becomes easier to help them progress and achieve their goals or things they didn't even plan to do. You know what works for them. But not everyone has that 'winning' mindset; it's not about that for some people, and that's OK. We can only hope, as teachers, that we make a positive impact in some way.
One of my favorite movies EVER. I also went into this without knowing much, just heard that it was an Oscar nominee. Boy was I blown away. Those last 15 minutes are just pure cinematic art.
This movie was so personal for me. I knew what Terrence was doing the whole time. I don’t know of anyone who loves being motivated this way. But I understand what he was saying about motivation. I’ve always responded from direct conflict and confrontation and I appreciated it when I knew a “Good effort” wouldn’t have motivated me. But I understand most don’t handle that level of bluntness that way.
Direct conflict and confrontation, to a point, can motivate. I think it's extremely hard to argue that the level and consistency that Fletcher did it was in any way productive overall.
Such a great story. It echoes across so many walks of life to anyone who has ever pursued perfection, the costs, and if the person is lucky, the accomplishment. The best movie of the 2010s.
Like another comment said. Both the protagonist and the antagonist won here. The father lost his son to his abuser but to Andrew it was worth it. He achieved his dream of becoming one of the greats and fletcher achieved his dream of creating a legend. Andrew himself said he'd rather die young and be remembered forever so even if the antagonist got what he wanted, it's not a failure for the protagonist.
“I feel like that was like a flawless movie”. I would say you are spot on with that assessment. My insides were in knots the first time I watched Whiplash.
That ending is beautifull, and I feel like Fletcher introduces the new music in part to set the stage force Newman to improvise, which mixed with Newman knowing the next song brought that trancendental performance!
The greatest misconception is that this movie ended in a happy ending. The true story is about an abusive relationship and the abuser getting his way in the end. Is Andrew just going to be another anxiety filled musician? Looks like it. Fletcher was clearly in the wrong and he will unfortunately continue his ways
It is a happy ending. Andrew wan't trying to prove anything to anyone, in the end he did it for himself. What brought them together in the final was their mutual love for music. Andrew was rushing, but Fletcher was signalling for him to slow down because he wanted him to succeed.
@@ThisIsMyFullName yeah you can see the look of almost realization during that last conversation when he understood why he was doing that and not just because he’s a sadist
Whiplash serves as an excellent companion piece to Tár; character studies of both exceptional, extremely talented and deeply flawed characters in a music context.
This film is basically the study and epitome of entitlement vs genuineness, how hard work and facing raw unfiltered opinion hardens and hones versus being coddled and told "good job" getting you what you want; at the price of literally everything about you being challenged and criticized to the point of near self destruction.
As a drummer of 21 years im so stoked you guys reacted to this film. And i must say...regular drumming is difficult enough to grasp, but jazz drumming is a whole different beast all together. Never was my bag but every jazz drummer i know definitely has my respect!
One of the most intense motivational dramas in my opinion. The plot, cinematography, acting, music everything is on point. Whiplash is an intense film !
The way niki looks at the camera when Steven is recapping the movie as he is describing how in awe he is of the movie was so cute☺️. Also, this is one my favorite movie that I have watched and I’m very limited in what I dub as my favorite movie ❤️
The editing in this movie alone is impeccable as if it carries its own rhythm. The acting from Teller and Simmons is next level, Simmons plays one of the greatest villains in film history. There's a really interesting level of psychology going on throughout the film. This still has one of the most satisfying endings to any movie I've ever seen. Happy yall enjoyed this one.
@@williamswiniuch7527 Andrew is in an abusive relationship. It isn't easy to get out of it. Fletcher is a villain, his students are killing themselves. How is not that a villain backstory?
This movie brought back some serious ptsd all the way back from high school - my band director was just like this guy. Couldn’t watch the movie. I’ll watch with you guys though - it’ll be interesting to see your take on things 👍🏼
Chazelle made this movie to prove people he was good so someone would invest in La la land, the movie he actually invested his time for years. that's insane. I personally love both
JK Simmons should have an Oscar just for being JK Simmons. He's absolutely one of the greatest character actors I've ever seen. He was crazy as a white supremacist in HBOs prison series OZ. He was pitch f**king perfect as JJJ in Raimi's Spider-Man films. And he's also been the voice of the yellow M&M forever. Lol. He still seems like a person you could have a good conversation with. And it's funny how so many actors that played great villains are usually known for being the kindest people in real life.
I let my mother borrow my blu-ray copy. She said she almost stopped the movie when it got to the scene where Simmons' character consistently slaps his student. I saw this oldie when it 1st came out. Whiplash was unexpectedly intense
Like many other comments have suggested, he sold his soul. His father's look at the end was possibly to signify losing his son to the "devil." Deep on so many levels.
I did band in high school and college and i can definitely say this movie portrayed so many things accurately. Particularly the pressure that is put onto performers. Directors will always want the best from you but its always going to come at some expense
Absolutely flawless masterpiece! I loooved your reaction and commentary. If you're interested, you should check out the short film that was made before this. Not for another reaction but just so you see how the director managed to capture all that tension in just a few minutes. He made it to convince people that it would actually be a good idea for a movie. It also stars J.K. Simmons, some of the lines are even the same, and the color palette is different which gives it a completely different feel.
Went to state with the orchestra, and got some decent scores in solo and sught reading. Performed in several highschools. In one they tried to get me to lead, invited to pefform funeral services and the like, but didnt have confidence. Then it was never to expectation. Skip to junior senior year: was in spymphonic orchestra and march/pep band. I wasnt part of his jazz band or the like, so naturally my tempo was never good enough even as a top chair, and couldnt hit the extreme ranges and speeds of the insturment, and he made a mission to make it an example.
Had a music director exactly like this 100%. Did his best to crush my soul and you know what.. he really did lol! He taught me to have nightmares over the thought of performing.
Not that it compares but in my school district, we kids had to learn to play an instrument because it was part of the curriculum. I had been in the orchestra since about sixth grade and in high school, our orchestra would regularly go to competitions. At the time, I think our high school orchestra had a streak of winning first place at certain competitions but one year, that streak was cut short when we came in second place. I remember during the next class after this, our music teacher (Mr. Robertson) was visibly upset about this. He came in, slammed the door to his office (oblivious to us shocked kids), and then emerged after about 10 minutes to express his disappointment in us. Even I would not say I DIDN'T take orchestra seriously, I have never seen anyone so upset about coming up short in a competition like my teacher was. Honestly, this film just reminded me of my 16-year-old self again, of the times I got chewed out for being out of sync or something like that. Still a great film overall, I just don't think I could handle doing that at the university level, much less for a career.
It’s my sleeper movie. Most people haven’t seen it. It’s amazing. Damien went on to win an Oscar then pushed out La La Land. He god the “Bird” level of performer at the end
I was a violinist and went to both performing arts high school and college and even when watching reactions I’m still tensed up and get sweaty. I feel this movie so viscerally lol. Especially when he tackles Fletcher. I have absolutely wanted to do that to some of my instructors and still have life long injuries and nerve damage.
Another extremely intriguing take to denote on top of the countless other devices and meanings: during the final scene when Andrew’s father is looking in awe through the theater doors, pay attention to the performer’s phenomenal facial expression- is he astonished at simply how good Andrew truly is at his craft, or is he in complete disarray realizing that Fletcher “won,” and that Andrew technically fell back into his arms, regardless of both the pros and cons of leaders like Fletcher.
Did an essay of this movie, half of it was from the final scenes lol and pointed out that detail. Visibly proud and horrified almost simultaneously. It was a brutal moment.
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This reaction made me emotional can’t express how much i enjoyed that thank you guys so much. This was a flawless film indeed. My discord isn’t working rn so I didn’t even know it’s in the list awesome surprise. Love you S&N
I watched Whiplash when it was first released and it blew me away. The anxiety alone that I felt watching this was overwhelming but in the best way possible. J.K. Simmons was such an awesome yet unlikeble character but I couldn't look away or bring myself to doubt him either. Miles Teller also did a great job and Steven was right about the tight shots, they really give the movie a lot of flavour and style that really suits the tone. I wish I could watch it for the first time all over again but this is just as good seeing you guys watch it.
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Some people are abusers and can kill you. For me this is about how to survive a psychopath or narcissist, who would like to destroy you. If you are naive you die. If you are aware, what tricks the bully performs, you can prepare a plan, and stay alive. Andrew has learned the hard way that he can´t play nice, he lost all angst toward this abusive "teacher", and he attacked Fletcher 2x (1. helped to cick him out of school. 2.And at the last concert Andrew saved his own reputation as a drummer, when Fletcher tried to trick him). Some people are sick, they will try to abuse/destroy you, they are not your friends, teachers, spouses, even if they have this role or wear this mask (of politness sometimes). Be aware and prepared.
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This film was made in just 19 days, with Damian Chazelle even continuing to work after being hospitalized in a car accident. Which of course makes the scene of Andrew trying to play after a car accident pretty eerily prophetic.
Wow! Never knew this! I appreciate it even more. JK Simmons MASTERED his portrayal of a band conductor🙌
19 days?? Jesus that sounds exhausting, but also shows the amazing work of everyone working on the film!
*Shot in 19 days. Which isn’t surprising at all.
It takes place in one city, most of the shots are planned out before shooting and it has few locations.
This and Saw are classics for that schedule set.
Wow.. that's pretty crazy, because it definitely took Simmons longer than 19 days to embody the Fletcher character.. guessing the New York location shots probably took the longest..
this is one movie that isn’t a scary movie that scared me! J.K Simmons deserved that Oscar because his character frightened me
"Then WHY THE F---- DIDN'T YOU SAY SO?!"
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JK Simmons, The Yellow M&M in the commercials.
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Lol I remember the Oscars that year. After J.K. won the host said he won an Oscar ba ba ba dum dum dum. (From his Farmers ads) Lol
Also, the shot of Dad’s face at the end is so good on so many levels. On the surface, what you said about him realizing what his son is actually capable of. But beyond that, it’s also tragic; his dad is realizing that what Andrew said at dinner is right. In reality, Fletcher won, he successfully broke Andrew and as a result created an historic musician, but he is now a slave to the music, and at what cost? Probably dead by his 30s as he predicted.
That's the saddest part about this movie.
Any time I see someone with this take, it makes me so upset. The movie is definitely tragic in its own way, but it's not because "Fletcher won" or "Fletcher broke Andrew" or anything like that. When people say that, it takes so much AWAY from Andrew; it makes him a victim of Fletcher's. Sean Casey, the character in the movie who committed suicide, is someone that Fletcher broke, and THAT is tragic. But Andrew is someone who ROSE TO THE OCCASION, as sad as that might be in a way. Andrew and Fletcher are two sides to the same coin -- and proves as much when he says at that family dinner that he would rather be the one who dies young and is remembered than the one who dies old and is forgotten. He already had that in him, which is a big point of the movie. I think that the message the movie conveys is that, as sick as it might make you feel, Fletcher is right about what it takes to generate greatness, and Andrew is incredible for achieving it. The gravity of the movie, though, is that the viewer -- after being faced with that message and that experience first (second) hand -- is left to figure out whether or not greatness is worth what it costs.
@@ZaydeGG That's always been my take as well. Looking at almost anyone that's TRULY great at something, they aren't just inherently great. Yes, they have talent others might not have, but they put in fanatical amounts of work.
@@ZaydeGG I read your comment several times and Im not really understanding how your opinion is different from mine. Of course Andrew had an innate drive as well, but so did the student who ended up unaliving. Fletcher is the trigger, and his point is that all of the greats had some sort of trigger regardless of their talent. Fletcher is talented at finding those people and figuring out how to exploit it. The problem is he is psychopathic and exploits it for reasons beyond just extracting the best from them. I dont think that takes any agency away from the students at all.
The way I see it is both of them won, not just Fletcher. Both Andrew and Fletcher got what they wanted because they worked towards the same goal. You’re saying he’s a slave to the music, but you can say that about anyone who excels in a certain practice. What would that be a bad thing, if the person is getting what he wants?
He predicted his death in his 30s, and preferred it to be that way if it meant that he would become one of the greats. This means that he didn’t really care about the cost, and it was absolutely worth it for him. That’s all that matters tbh. If he was truly happy and satisfied with it, then who are we say that it’s not worth it for him?
Absolutely love this film. It's the only movie where it ends at the climax with both the antagonist and protagonist achieving their goals.
The director was pretty clear It's a tragedy where someone sacrifices everything to please his abuser.
@@znk0r A lot of people seem to misunderstand the ending, unfortunately. Andrew literally walks away from his own father, who is trying to console him, to seek approval from an emotional terrorist.
@@MrHarbltron Yeah I watched it and was heartbroken with the ending. The abuser won in the story. I love tragic ending.
@@MrHarbltron Andrew wanted that HIMSELF, he could quit at any moment.
@@beachslap7359 Yeah, that's the same logic used when talking about abusive spouses.
The director stated in an interview that Andrew most likely ended up like most great jazz musicians do: dead at a young age, full of drugs, and with nothing left. It’s a truly chilling thought that really contextualizes the ending in a way that you may not have guessed at first viewing. This movie is a masterpiece man.
The dad's expression at the end really makes it obvious though.
I think most people get it. The question is more, is this a happy ending. Andrew said it himself. This is all he wanted, and hes getting it. Everybody knows how andrews story ends.
It's almost like a deal with the Devil. Fletcher ruins another student but adds to his (Fletcher's) legend.
Yes but go back to the dinner table conversation - Andrew literally acknowledged that possibility and said he’s rather die a legend at 30 than live to 90 and be a nobody.
He probably died young on drugs or he probably doesn't end up like that at all. Some people have a stronger tolerance to stress than others. I noticed a pattern with common people. they all love to lean towards the idea that fits the narrative of their laziness. "He probably ended up dead anyway, so why try?" Well, we all end up dead anyway. Kids get shot up in schools and don't live to tomorrow, so nothing is promised. Why not give it your freaking all? But that's what separates the 1% from the 99%, I guess.
The performances in this are spectacular. The “good job” conversation has been stuck in my head since the first time I saw it.
One of my all time favorite movie lines
At the end when you can't see his lips and he smiles back at Andrew, he says good job
I'm sorry, but your comment is not quite my tempo.
Jaw dropping! Whoa😅
I am a Jiu Jitsu guy. I’ve always said that the greatest enemy of excellence is mediocrity. Same sentiment. But I think the “good job” line boils it down better and hits harder
J.K. Simmons deserved every bit of his Oscar. Amazing performance.
Really?
A crude, angry leader with a colorful vocabulary, he was born for this role
@@EyeTunz yes
"I will never apologize for how I tried"
"good job"
Best lines delivered poetically by Mr. Simmons. What an actor.
I totally felt the dinner table scene. Because I'm a professional musician, and teacher. A lot of my family still call it a phase, or a guitar thing, or band thing. But I have touched hearts, created music that I and others enjoy, made family members from other bands and schools, and sent many students to music programs. I felt that. Never let someone tell you what to do with your life. Do what makes you happy, even if it doesn't draw support from your family. Love you guys, and keep reacting :)
I'm an Actor and a Singer and in my family's eyes, I don't 'work'. I don't have a 'serious job'. I'm 'only playing'. And the saddest part is, getting a big opportunity in this industry is harder than finding a needle in a haystack. And everyday that passes, my family reaffirms what they believe about me. But I keep on trying. I don't know if I keep on trying because I'm brave enough to stick to my dreams and what makes me happy or just a coward that refuses to live a sad empty life.
Honestly, one of the greatest movies that I've ever seen... A masterpiece.
Masterpiece is a perfect word to describe this movie
To me the real purpose of a movie is to tell a story while eliciting an emotional response in the viewer that sticks with them long after it is over.
Yup, mission accomplished.
Jesus. Seriously??? This movie is compete crap. It's about a deranged bully. What the hell is to like???
@@EyeTunz 🤓🤓
@EyeTunz ok troll 😅
The best part about this movie is the director’s comments about the ending. He said this is not a “happy” ending, and that Andrew does indeed die in his early 30’s from drug/alcohol overdose, but does become a legend (according to what he imagined) So it’s not a “sad” ending either. It just raises all sorts of inspiration and questions in what it takes to be great, and is being great/remembered worth it? To some, yes. To others, no. To all…who knows? Is the sacrifice worth it? Absolutely incredible film and performances.
In my personal opinion, not worthy if gives you anxiety, isolates you from others. Dying early in life. Maybe i lack ambition
@@danielruiz8259 living a life full of pain and suffering just for a legacy you cannot experience (because you’re dead) doesn’t seem good to me either. Especially considering how many living legends there are that are musical wizards (people like cory Henry, or more popular people like Elton John etc)
Perhaps there are some people that just value the legacy more and consider it a fair trade. HOWEVER, they’d have to make that trade willingly, and have it be an informed decision. Fletcher pressures and manipulates people, he uses their insecurities to coerce them into destroying themselves. Yes, they get a legacy, but the most direct benefit is that fletcher gets a good reputation and a good job out of the students he sucks dry. How many of fletcher’s prodigies went into that life knowing they would be involved with alcohol/drug abuse and die young?
My biggest gripe is that the alternative practice is so achievable!
I just don’t see what’s so hard about making legendary music without slapping people. Across the history of music, you see many examples of exactly this. When you consider how available non-abusive methods are, quickly turning to abuse looks even more cruel.
So it is a happy ending. Andrew achie ed what he wanted and openly admitted the sacrifice and consequences were worth it. Fletcher found his parker and his methods worked in this case. Both are smiling at the end. Its a peferctly happy ending.
@@crankfastle8138 That so many hold this viewpoint shows massive failings in society in general.
@@danielruiz8259 Nah, you just have different ambitions. For some people, having a loving wife and kids and dying a peaceful death in your 90's is an unattainable pipe dream. It's all about perspective.
2014 was a year of some amazing films: Whiplash, Birdman, Nightcrawler, Interstellar, The Grand Budapest Hotel, Gone Girl, Fury, etc
Was Dallas buyers club considered 2014 also?
You forgot Boyhood. That was my favorite film in 2014
@@johnnyboy7144 According to the Google, that was 2013. Another great movie, though.
@@ChowDownDetroit I didn't forget it, I left it off on purpose. The concept was cool, but for me that was all it had going for it.
@@leogothisoscar271 oh ok, yeah I think that was the year before, def a great one also
Miles did a lot of drumming himself. He’s a well accomplished drummer
That’s awesome
@@NikkiStevenReact no, you two are awesome 🙏 The Last Kingdom movie came out today, IT WAS AWESOME!!!
Iam sorry. No hate on miles. But he did NOT drum those parts ;) even his mimicing was a bit off. He did great job tho
@@itiswhatitis141 agreed, acted well but the intensity during his practices was overshadowed by his arms flailing wildly. He looked good and can certainly play, but he cant play these parts.
@@itiswhatitis141 Wrong. If you read the articles about the movie you’ll see what was reported by editor, director and cast. Miles’ form was helped by editing but 99% of the drumming was him. He worked hard to be able to play those parts.
Such a captivating piece of cinema easily one of the best films of the 2010s
Yeah it is
Easily the best
Well a thing or two I throw a 🪑 at a person! Impress your coach or get outta there!
That is sad if true. Such a horrible movie.
As a professional dancer/performance artist who went to a performing arts school before moving on to company life, I can say, “YES. It can be this intense.” But when your so passionate about your art it often doesn’t matter how mind numbing, or physically taxing it is. You just want to do the best you can in any given moment. Essentially giving it your all during each performance or practice because that’s how you improve. Honestly, this is such a good movie and shows that being an artist isn’t always sunshine and rainbows. Awesome reaction y’all!
At first, I thought the ending was a happy one but now I realize Andrew’s just gonna keep getting stuck in that cycle of validation and self worth being in the hands of Fletcher. This is what Fletcher wanted all along, for Andrew’s sole focus in life to be drumming (hence Andrew’s dad’s look on his face at the end. Fletcher made a monster out of his son)…it’s kinda sad and a tragic ending
Its andrews and fletchers happy endings. They are realizing their dreams now, no matter how short it lasts.
@@crankfastle8138 that’s one way to look at it. Yeah they’re realizing their dreams, but at what cost? Fletcher drove one of his past students to kill himself. Andrew lashed out against his own family at the dinner table and broke up with the girl that he had gained confidence to even ask out. It’s honestly really tragic
@@crankfastle8138 in theory, the film ends with the main character getting what he wants, but at the cost of his humanity. It’s supposed to open up discussion as to whether or not it’s worth it. But the ending is not happy, as the film suggests Andrew will not be happy doing this, but will continue to do anyways out of compulsion to be great (the film was titled: obsession, in other countries, in case you don’t believe me)
@@danleiferman5425nothing tragic about it
@@FlareDope how about getting into a car accident and not caring about ur own life cause music is an obsession... sounds crazy to me
The one thing that always got me about this movie is that the villain wins. That final smile he gave him was proving himself right: that he could do anything to square it by having results. That's why is father looked so sad at the end. He realized his son fell for the bait
Yup. His dad might as well have just watched his son die, because he’ll never be part of his life again
@move_i_got_this5659 if you only look at the one success story then sure, but you are forgetting about all the people Fletcher destroyed along the way
@Move_I_Got_This I agree with the director that it's not a happy ending. If someone feels that giving their life to their passion is worth it, so be it; it's their life.
@Move_I_Got_This Nah this is 100% about physical and mental abuse under the guise of “teaching people to become better”. Fletcher is manipulating, violent, gaslighting, and bullying his underlings the entire time passing it off as teaching.
From the start, Fletcher props him up and fills him with confidence, to then crush it and get Andrew to seek his approval immediately. Once he’s done that, then it’s about constantly giving and taking so that he doesn’t feel like he’s making any progress with getting said approval. Abusers only stop their abuse once the victim is attempting to push back (Andrew getting him fired) as a way to ease them back under their control, and once they are there, they will crush them even further for thinking they can do that against them (Fletcher trying to embarrass Andrew in front of a crowd at the end). Andrew playing along with Fletcher at the very end tells Fletcher that he’s fully under his control and that his abuse was valid. Andrew lost because he gave in to Fletchers abuse.
@Move_I_Got_This This is a false dichotomy. The choices aren't "Not caring" and "Aggressive abuse", and even if they were, people respond very differently to varying levels of challenge, stress and motivation. There is a middle ground and a healthy way to push people past their limits without going to places that are so abusive.
The tragedy of this story is that Fletcher is absolutely an abuser. He doesn't care about Andrew. He only cares if Andrew is good so that he can say "I discovered him". And the reason he gets his hooks into Andrew is because his own family are so dismissive of the things he is passionate about. He's looking for validation and not finding it from those close to him, so he ends up looking for it in other places, and that eventually ends up being incredibly unhealthy.
As much as I loved this movie, I could only do this one once. I was stressed the HELL OUT the entire time 😅😅😂
Yeah, it’s super intense
i just watched it and i could say the same. lol hahahha
Me too😂
You're stressed out because the movie is awful. It's about a deranged bully.
@@EyeTunz nah
Intense is the perfect word. I've never seen a sport movie or a drama or even a heavy emotional story in any film that was anywhere close to the intensity of this film.
Nominated for 5 Oscars including Best Picture but won for
Best Supporting Actor, JK Simmons
Best Film Editing
Best Sound Mixing.
This movie had me saying "Not my tempo" for months. Love it!
Now were you rushing or were you dragging⁉️⁉️
the fact that miles teller was the one playing the drums (not on set but his recordings were used) and giving absolutely brilliant performance in his breakout role while also being paid 8 thousand dollars for all of it is INSANE
One of the most underrated movies ever! Miles Teller actually played a lot of drums in the movie which is wild.
I do chuckle when people say this is the scariest role JK Simmons has played! Obviously they never saw him in the tv series Oz 🤔😊
hahaha Schilinger was one of a kind.
Ya, it is hard to top crucifying people in the late 20th century.
his voice acting as omniman 🫣
Watching Whiplash and Birdman back to back was one of my favorite nights of cinema I've ever had. What a stacked year for film.
I did that as well!! I was blown away by cinema and what it could be beyond the traditional big box office movies. Absolutely loved those films, still rewatch them.
yup i went theater hopping... what an experience. and ive seen like 800 movies in the theater.
This was so on point with my high school music conductor! No physical violence and the insults weren't quite that level, but the rage you see during practice is REAL😅but after the concert/event, they would always drop the persona to show their appreciation for the hardwork put in and the payoff when we'd win competitions made it feel worth it. But never took it to the college level😬I'm sure it probably gets pretty intense
Oh, hell yeah. Competitive band was crazy even in high school. Whole other level compared to when I did sports in high school. And those kids that only did sports didn’t believe me till I invited some to just stand outside of the practice rooms. The “soundproof” rooms that you could very clearly hear our conductor reaming our asses from outside. After that they got it lol
We had a middle school band director who threw a chair. Not at a student, but still. He should have been fired. Middle school band isn't Juliard.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. Music isn't a competition.
@@pajander thanks, but just like any sport, it can be done competitively. I appreciate being driven to be the best we could be and learn the importance of details and perfecting a skill. I wouldn't consider our treatment as abusive, but definitely startling how intense and passionate people can be about something so classical and elegant as concert music. It offered a perspective that was very unique, and I think the film captured that perspective, but just took it to an even greater extreme
@@Roca891 Yeah, that’s definitely much for middle school. No reason for all that
A well-deserved Oscar for J. K. Simmons
This film is truly a masterpiece, it's rare that you see the protagonist and antagonist both get exactly what they wanted from the beginning in such a stylish fashion.
49:53 "he really brought it out of him"
Basically the essence of the movie but it is simultaneaously asking "but at what cost?"
This movie was my entire band experience in middle school and high school. Our band played for national competitions, marched in Macy's, the whole nine yards. Throwing things druing practice was not uncommon. The stress was through the roof.
Same here. When Fletcher throws the chair, I'm always like -- yep, been there! In marching/concert, I was a flute, and I don't know how many times we'd duck to avoid having the band director's music stand and/or drum stick (used for keeping time) hit us! Funnily enough, it seems like he was usually hurling it at the drummers! 🤣
No things were thrown at me but I sure got beat down with my beater multiple times. Really hurts but played it off. Now that I think about it, it never came to me as scary and fully accepted it as part of the journey.
Sounds great!! What fun!!!
Apparently Miles did a lot of drum practicing for the movie (and played when he was younger) so the shots are all him just with adr drums. Great react once again!
One of the finest movies ever crafted.
Fletcher makes Nieman count off to 215bpm and insults him for getting it wrong.
Thing is, Nieman had perfect timing.
This movie asks the question how far are you willing to go to be considered "great".
Yeah that look on his dad's face wasn't a realization of how good his son is, it was a look of absolute horror as he was realizing he had lost his son.
Nope, Dad's face is a realization of how blind he was treating his son like an ordinary person.
Let's agree that look on dad's face is complex and open for multiple interpretations 😉
According to the movie's script (and this is the real script), Andrew's father realises that he has lost his son, and that his son has sacrificed their relationship to "be great."
i remember sitting at my kit for hours working on doubles. crying my head off and so many cracks of my knuckles on the side of my snare. It was worth every tear. And you are correct, after a while you do learn to just become part of the music and you go in your zone. kind of like the runners wall. You get there can hardly stand it, then pass right through and just play your brains out. It's awesome
if the word stress or tense was a movie i think it would be this one
probs to the actors cause i felt the tension the stress and the pressure in every second of this movie just intense
Put this on and uncut gems to follow and you’re guaranteed to have a heart attack
@@yaboytroy357 Add The Greem Room and Funny Games, and you've definitely got yourself a heart attack
@@yaboytroy357 i was about to comment this. uncut gems is the cinematic equivalent of anxiety
I used to be a drummer and I did karate for a couple of years. One would assume fighting is way more stressful than just playing the drums, but boy oh boy it's 100% the other way around, music is INTENSE
@@pabloc8808 it is
"Get the fuck out of my sight before I demolish you" is my favorite insult ever.
That shot of Andrew's dad at the final solo is a father who is realizing that his son will be a great musician and will probably die young, drugged up, and broke.
As a drummer when this movie came out I related to it so much especially during my learning days.
Its one of my personal favourite films. Incredible truly incredible. As someone who played in school bands and orchestras even touring as a kid/teen I can absolutely appreciate this pursuit of perfection and how it can mess you up big time.
Miles Teller performed close to 90% of all the drumming in this film. The competition pieces were him playing (Visual) but with prerecorded audio
As a professional composer and studio musician I can say that studying jazz at a top Conservatory in jazz studies AND with world renowned jazz musicians was one of the most challenging experiences of my life besides battling a rare chronic illness. I always enjoyed this film and have a very high respect for jazz drummers and percussionists in general.
JK Simmons is phenomenal in this film! The intensity when I watched it for the first time was incredible and still is to this day! I loved when Nikki goes "I love him too, he's fantastic!" just because I knew what was gonna come from JK's performance! Great movie and reaction!
This movie is one of my ultimate favorites!!! J. Jonah Jameson breaking down Mr. Fantastic!!
This movie will only grow more popular with time. One of the 10 best of the last decade.
Not so fun fact, the director of the movie said "Fletcher will always think he won and Andrew will be a sad, empty shell of a person and will die in his 30s of a drug overdose. I have a very dark view of where it goes" which was foreshadowed at 24:24
He won an Oscar for this that role. So well deserved!
Loved your conversation at the end about tough love. Everyone is different. Success looks different for everyone. I'm a teacher, and I find teaching a standardised curriculum while trying to engage students who are all different people with varying interests and capabilities one of the hardest things about teaching. Once you 'know' your students (to the extent that you can know them as a teacher, anyway), it becomes easier to help them progress and achieve their goals or things they didn't even plan to do. You know what works for them. But not everyone has that 'winning' mindset; it's not about that for some people, and that's OK. We can only hope, as teachers, that we make a positive impact in some way.
One of my top 10! So glad you guys loved it!
One of my favorite movies EVER. I also went into this without knowing much, just heard that it was an Oscar nominee. Boy was I blown away. Those last 15 minutes are just pure cinematic art.
This movie was so personal for me. I knew what Terrence was doing the whole time. I don’t know of anyone who loves being motivated this way. But I understand what he was saying about motivation. I’ve always responded from direct conflict and confrontation and I appreciated it when I knew a “Good effort” wouldn’t have motivated me. But I understand most don’t handle that level of bluntness that way.
Direct conflict and confrontation, to a point, can motivate. I think it's extremely hard to argue that the level and consistency that Fletcher did it was in any way productive overall.
This movie won an assload of awards for obvious reasons.
I think the movie ending right as he does something spectacular is symbolic to his life
Pretty much. Even the writer predicts that he'll probably eventually become an addict and die alone.
Such a great story. It echoes across so many walks of life to anyone who has ever pursued perfection, the costs, and if the person is lucky, the accomplishment. The best movie of the 2010s.
That last knowing look the dad gives is more of a realization that he’s lost his son to his abuser. It’s tragic, but Andrew thinks he’s happy.
He is happy.
@@crankfastle8138 Maybe in the moment, but there's no way it lasts.
It’s not tragic, he achieved greatness. Like he wanted to.
@@TrentRidleyhe doesn’t care if it lasts, he wants to be great. Greatness requires sacrifice and he understands that.
Like another comment said. Both the protagonist and the antagonist won here. The father lost his son to his abuser but to Andrew it was worth it. He achieved his dream of becoming one of the greats and fletcher achieved his dream of creating a legend. Andrew himself said he'd rather die young and be remembered forever so even if the antagonist got what he wanted, it's not a failure for the protagonist.
“I feel like that was like a flawless movie”. I would say you are spot on with that assessment. My insides were in knots the first time I watched Whiplash.
Amazing performances in this movie. This one was a huge surprise when it came out.
That ending is beautifull, and I feel like Fletcher introduces the new music in part to set the stage force Newman to improvise, which mixed with Newman knowing the next song brought that trancendental performance!
The greatest misconception is that this movie ended in a happy ending. The true story is about an abusive relationship and the abuser getting his way in the end. Is Andrew just going to be another anxiety filled musician? Looks like it. Fletcher was clearly in the wrong and he will unfortunately continue his ways
The 500th person with the same comment. Congrats. Also it is a happy ending.
@@crankfastle8138 At least they're not one single person spamming the same shit take over and over. Congrats.
I don’t view him as an abuser. Neither does Andrew by the end because he understands why he is the way he is and they both want the same thing
It is a happy ending. Andrew wan't trying to prove anything to anyone, in the end he did it for himself. What brought them together in the final was their mutual love for music. Andrew was rushing, but Fletcher was signalling for him to slow down because he wanted him to succeed.
@@ThisIsMyFullName yeah you can see the look of almost realization during that last conversation when he understood why he was doing that and not just because he’s a sadist
I keept telling my friends about this moive and they have yet to see it. UGH! This is a masterpiece.
Show them a clip of JK yelling. I'm sure that will help the motivation.
Whiplash serves as an excellent companion piece to Tár; character studies of both exceptional, extremely talented and deeply flawed characters in a music context.
This film is basically the study and epitome of entitlement vs genuineness, how hard work and facing raw unfiltered opinion hardens and hones versus being coddled and told "good job" getting you what you want; at the price of literally everything about you being challenged and criticized to the point of near self destruction.
This movie brought so many memories when I was in jazz as a bass player😢 all the stops very accurate and timing and everything is accurate 20 yrs ago
Truth be told, JK’s insults were next level! 😂
I have watched this movie a few times. Being a drummer myself of 27 years I can appreciate how hard he practiced to be perfect.
As a drummer of 21 years im so stoked you guys reacted to this film. And i must say...regular drumming is difficult enough to grasp, but jazz drumming is a whole different beast all together. Never was my bag but every jazz drummer i know definitely has my respect!
I’ve always thought that having a jazz drum background is the most useful base because you can take it into any genre like Bill Ward
@@williamswiniuch7527 Martin Lopez and Gar Samuelson too
"Four words you will never hear from the NFL" Decimating uppercut
One of the most intense motivational dramas in my opinion. The plot, cinematography, acting, music everything is on point. Whiplash is an intense film !
I don't think I've ever seen Nikki this quiet or this in shock, during a whole movie! Looks like she needed drinks and sleep after this!
The way niki looks at the camera when Steven is recapping the movie as he is describing how in awe he is of the movie was so cute☺️. Also, this is one my favorite movie that I have watched and I’m very limited in what I dub as my favorite movie ❤️
Flech respected him in the end ❤
The editing in this movie alone is impeccable as if it carries its own rhythm. The acting from Teller and Simmons is next level, Simmons plays one of the greatest villains in film history. There's a really interesting level of psychology going on throughout the film. This still has one of the most satisfying endings to any movie I've ever seen. Happy yall enjoyed this one.
Agreed and you can make the argument that there aren’t any villains in this movie
@williamswiniuch7527 true because everyone has flaws as humans always do. How intentional are the flaws of Simmons' character?
@@reubenlee6438 right Andrew doesn’t have to be there. It’s like saying if you want to go to this level, this is the way to do it
@@williamswiniuch7527 Andrew is in an abusive relationship. It isn't easy to get out of it.
Fletcher is a villain, his students are killing themselves. How is not that a villain backstory?
@@kassiogomes8498 you can’t put the suicide on him.
This movie brought back some serious ptsd all the way back from high school - my band director was just like this guy. Couldn’t watch the movie. I’ll watch with you guys though - it’ll be interesting to see your take on things 👍🏼
Might have missed some reactions, but don't think I have seen you both so speechless/shocked in a video before xD
Chazelle made this movie to prove people he was good so someone would invest in La la land, the movie he actually invested his time for years. that's insane. I personally love both
JK Simmons should have an Oscar just for being JK Simmons. He's absolutely one of the greatest character actors I've ever seen. He was crazy as a white supremacist in HBOs prison series OZ. He was pitch f**king perfect as JJJ in Raimi's Spider-Man films. And he's also been the voice of the yellow M&M forever. Lol. He still seems like a person you could have a good conversation with. And it's funny how so many actors that played great villains are usually known for being the kindest people in real life.
This movie is the definition of blood, sweat and tears. I love this movie.
And also of basically giving up your soul for the pursuit of perfection.
AMAZING MOVIE - Suddenly you realize that you forgot to breath for like 5 minutes at the end. Just by watching him playing drums.
I let my mother borrow my blu-ray copy. She said she almost stopped the movie when it got to the scene where Simmons' character consistently slaps his student.
I saw this oldie when it 1st came out. Whiplash was unexpectedly intense
Oldie? Dafuk? 😂😂😂
Oldie? It's 2014. . .
Like many other comments have suggested, he sold his soul. His father's look at the end was possibly to signify losing his son to the "devil." Deep on so many levels.
I did band in high school and college and i can definitely say this movie portrayed so many things accurately. Particularly the pressure that is put onto performers. Directors will always want the best from you but its always going to come at some expense
Absolutely flawless masterpiece! I loooved your reaction and commentary. If you're interested, you should check out the short film that was made before this. Not for another reaction but just so you see how the director managed to capture all that tension in just a few minutes. He made it to convince people that it would actually be a good idea for a movie. It also stars J.K. Simmons, some of the lines are even the same, and the color palette is different which gives it a completely different feel.
Went to state with the orchestra, and got some decent scores in solo and sught reading. Performed in several highschools. In one they tried to get me to lead, invited to pefform funeral services and the like, but didnt have confidence. Then it was never to expectation.
Skip to junior senior year: was in spymphonic orchestra and march/pep band. I wasnt part of his jazz band or the like, so naturally my tempo was never good enough even as a top chair, and couldnt hit the extreme ranges and speeds of the insturment, and he made a mission to make it an example.
Had a music director exactly like this 100%. Did his best to crush my soul and you know what.. he really did lol! He taught me to have nightmares over the thought of performing.
Such an amazing film. One of my favorites ever. Its a rollercoaster ride
So good
Not that it compares but in my school district, we kids had to learn to play an instrument because it was part of the curriculum. I had been in the orchestra since about sixth grade and in high school, our orchestra would regularly go to competitions. At the time, I think our high school orchestra had a streak of winning first place at certain competitions but one year, that streak was cut short when we came in second place. I remember during the next class after this, our music teacher (Mr. Robertson) was visibly upset about this. He came in, slammed the door to his office (oblivious to us shocked kids), and then emerged after about 10 minutes to express his disappointment in us. Even I would not say I DIDN'T take orchestra seriously, I have never seen anyone so upset about coming up short in a competition like my teacher was. Honestly, this film just reminded me of my 16-year-old self again, of the times I got chewed out for being out of sync or something like that. Still a great film overall, I just don't think I could handle doing that at the university level, much less for a career.
the fact tha miles telle actually played the drum scenes himself, makes this movie so much better
The acting and editing in this film are so damn good.
It’s my sleeper movie. Most people haven’t seen it. It’s amazing. Damien went on to win an Oscar then pushed out La La Land. He god the “Bird” level of performer at the end
J.K. Simmons reminds me of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman from Full Metal Jacket in this movie lol.
100%
I was a violinist and went to both performing arts high school and college and even when watching reactions I’m still tensed up and get sweaty. I feel this movie so viscerally lol. Especially when he tackles Fletcher. I have absolutely wanted to do that to some of my instructors and still have life long injuries and nerve damage.
One of the best films ever made.
Another extremely intriguing take to denote on top of the countless other devices and meanings: during the final scene when Andrew’s father is looking in awe through the theater doors, pay attention to the performer’s phenomenal facial expression- is he astonished at simply how good Andrew truly is at his craft, or is he in complete disarray realizing that Fletcher “won,” and that Andrew technically fell back into his arms, regardless of both the pros and cons of leaders like Fletcher.
Did an essay of this movie, half of it was from the final scenes lol and pointed out that detail. Visibly proud and horrified almost simultaneously. It was a brutal moment.
Absolutely love this movie. Great reaction
Dude, seeing J.K. Simmons as the antagonist is wild when you consider his role on "Law and Order:SVU."
Hats off to him for his acting chops! 👏
I've never clicked on one of your reactions faster than I did for this one. I knew your jaws would be on the floor by the first act.
He won an Oscar for this didn’t he??? Great performance!
Top 3 movies all time for me. The performances are incredible.
This is the definition of GASLIGHTING