No Quarter + Tool [Led Zeppelin Reaction] First time hearing Tool - Houses of the Holy - Comparison
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Mike & Dev give their reaction to and compare the Led Zeppelin and Tool versions of No Quarter from the Houses of the Holy and Salival albums. This our first time hearing Tool!
Haven't heard these songs in a LONG time. (Dev hasn't heard some of them at all.) We are re-experiencing them, an album at a time, with fresh perspectives and active ears, so that Dev can learn and appreciate more about Zeppelin, and so that Mike can relive his childhood.
00:00 - Introduction
03:14 - Led Zeppelin version
13:20 - Tool version
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🎵 No Quarter by Led Zeppelin (1973) - • No Quarter (Remaster)
🎵 No Quarter by Tool (2000)
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This is not a cover, but a tip of the hat paying respect to Zeppelin. Tool style. They didn't ever say hey look we can play Zeppelin, but more of what Zeppelin meant to their talents.
Tool = masterpiece
As a huge Zeppelin & Tool fan, both versions are amazing! Preference still to the original (John Paul Jones totally makes this his own), but Tool paid perfect homage to it, while making it just that much heavier, and indeed, putting their own stamp on it. Love actually playing these back to back in my car or on my stereo (in the dark, loud - and 'maybe' with a little herbal boost). Just a great ride...
Drums are soooooo weak on the Tool version.
Bonham drives the song.
This became one of Zeppelin's elastic songs that stretch and shrink to suit the mood. Double the length of the studio version was common. In those famous "end of tour" concerts that went on for four hours or more No Quarter could go on for as long as 35 minutes while Jones explored jazz themes and classic music. Rachmaninoff featured strongly. Zeppelin's endurance is down to three things - exception production values in recordings, the breadth of music they were willing to play and they never short-changed live audiences. For all the wild tour behaviour, on stage they delivered. It was in stark contrast with contemporary bands who would turn up drunk or drugged senseless, abuse the fans and walk off a few songs into the set list. There is a great story about Jim Morrison of the Doors and his drunken on-stage antics at a festival in Seattle in 1969. Fans felt ripped off until a minor act called Led Zeppelin insisted on following on the heels of the Doors' dismal performance. “Sunday night was supposed to belong to The Doors but it was stolen right out from under them by the great English blues group, Led Zeppelin,” reported the media next day.
I love both versions. I read alot of comments and it is as if people have to choose a side. Great music by great musicians and a damn good hommage by TOOL.
It's natural when comparing things to want to state a preference for one or the other, that said, I agree with you. People sometimes get caught up in which is better. Just enjoy them both and each had its own merits. I'd rather a band cover a song but make their own twists rather than just playing the song note for note
I think you guys should do more Tool. I've always thought they were a unique combo of Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and Black Sabbath. I subscribed
YEP!! 🤟
Well said Scott!!!
I’d agree but from their comments and body language during Tool, It’d be a hard sell. But very interesting!
They both are awesome, no debate about that. And it's just a great double shot, especially when you're a fan of LZ and Tool!🤙🏽
It was quite something to see Dev reacting so emotionally, without saying a word. That’s what Led Zeppelin can do to you and where they can take you. I have no idea where you guys live but this song is really cool to listen to during a foggy dusk ( or dawn), or with snow falling around you. Thanks to both of you, once again.
We live in Las Vegas so we don't see much fog or snow unfortunately.
Check this out guys. ua-cam.com/video/qfkSpK7QLrc/v-deo.html
The highlight for me is Robert's outro vocal, shivers.
This is such a great riff!! Jimmy was an absolute machine when it came to top quality riffs
Zep sounds like zep. Tool like tool. Both did brilliantly. Tool changed the the words
Love them both, but yeah, Tool for me, they're more my style. Greatest cover I've ever heard.
Chick on the left is as vibing the whole song. Dude on the right was just, yeah.. no thanks to him. Tool did a feat making this. Beautiful in every regard
Subbed by the end of the intro. Looking forward to this
Tool Version was live Maynard Used a Megaphone for the beginning vocals that's why the vocal change when he put it down for the transition. It was not a studio effect. I love both versions of the song and by far the best Zeppelin cover ever.
I thought I read that Tool's version was recorded for another album and/or a movie soundtrack but was never used, so they added it to Salival.
@@MusicforBusyPeople there is video of this performance online I seen it sounds exactly the same just a little more canny sound quality due to what ever it was recorded on
@@bradhall419 they re-recorded it, kind of like how SOAD covered Metro for a movie
Can't wait till you guys hit up the concert movie. I fell in love with No Quarter when I heard and saw the version from the film.
Two different styles lovem both for their own reasons. I prefer Tool's version personally. More emotion.
You two are great. I appreciate your music knowledge Mike, and Dev is just honest and refreshing. I would have never listened to Tool if it wasn’t for this reaction but I am glad I did. I still will always choose Led Zeppelin 😊
UA-cam suggests your When the Levee Breaks video. You may already know but the lead singer of Tool has another band, A Perfect Circle. They cover When the Levee Breaks and it's an amazing cover. If you check it out, please listen to the Live at Red Rocks version. Believe me, some random commenter, you will be blown away
The best way to (try to) listen to this song - when you know and love the original - is to pretend you don't know it's a cover and hear it for the very first time. You'll quickly find out that you'd think it was "just" another another Tool masterpiece... But it is hard to separate the two when you know and love the original and that'll be fucking with ya for sure.
Do more Tool song reactions please.. Great reaction to this song!
More Tool please you need to do a whole album review of Lateralus from 2001.
Im sorry, but my first ever shit review,
To each they're own.
But " not as unique " is a quote no person has made to DATE about TOOL!
I'm trulely amazed, wow
Peace Friends!
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They were stand offish to the review from the start. They made up their mind
She says “no turning back” kind of song- and that’s what “No Quarter” means. Giving “quarter” means warring soldiers within a sieged fortress would be promised “quarter” if they surrendered once the fortress was breached by external forces. If they didn’t, they would all be killed. They knew in advance that if they played a certain drum beat or trumpet sounds, they could indicate their request for “quarter”.
Came for the music, stayed for the reactions, subbed.....because you two actually provide in depth feedback. And I was the same way, no quarter was not my favorite in my youth, but enjoy it now.
The greatest Jimmy solo (one of them) on the 1973 Madison Square Garden No Quarter. Sublime!!!
Agreed. That's the one that Eric Clapton said was the greatest live solo that he ever heard.
I really love this song! But I have so many I love but this one you sit back close your eyes and think on the journey! 😀
interesting critique, I think Dev's interpretation of the lyrics were spot on...their writing was certainly years ahead of its time.....nice
Cool...good expressions
The vocal swells Maynard adds are soooo good!
The '73 The Song Remains the Same version is for me the best. After I heard that it became the standard I compare all other versions to.
I think it wasn't just a pivot point for Led Zeppelin -- it was a musical pivot point for anyone the first time they heard it .. . . ..
Thank you
More Tool pls.
Sergei Rachmaninoff is a pianist that JPJ got a lot of influences from when he played No Quarter. It has been said that he would put pieces of Rachmaninoff's music within his piano solo's during concerts. That's why songs such as No Quarter were so long when played live
Yes the best!!! “Are we going somewhere else?” Yes, all the places, locking all the doors, turning off all the lights 😂
I agree it was not my favorite when I was young but then it really grew on me. But I think the ocean was a great way to end the album with a bang. Good job
Of course, it wouldn't exist without led Zeppelin but TOOL owns this now
They may have made their version their own, but they in no way own it, it just didn't have the emotion that Zeppelin has
@Ledzepnut every part of what you said is wrong, but I would expect nothing less from someone with Zeppelin & nut in their user name. No bias there I guess 😔 In all honesty, this is the 1st channel I've watched that didn't say TOOL'S version was significantly better.
@@LanceThompsonKssooner It's not wrong, it's an opinion. Obviously you're a Tool fan and are into Heavy Metal, well I like Tool as well, but I'm not a Heavy Metal fan, I especially love "Right In Two", but most of Tool's music sounds similar, whereas Zeppelin had such a variety of styles, and were around when Rock music was at it's pinnacle, other than a few bands, rock music has gone downhill since the early 80's, then grunge came on the scene and revived it some, but that trashy Heavy Metal screaming like a devil is crap, thankfully Tool doesn't do that, at least not on some of their music, but they're still not Zeppelin, or Pink Floyd, or the Beatles, however they do have some great music
@Ledzepnut not trying to start a fight, but your opinion is wrong. 🙃 Yes, I am a TOOL fanatic, and it's obvious you are not familiar with their complete discography. Hardly anything they do sounds the same. No more than Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or even Rush. Who I like and admire all of them. I respect what the Beatles did, but personally, I have little use for them. I'm more of a Stones guy. As for this specific song, it is very rare that I like a remake better. I can only name a few off hand. Johnny Cash Hurt, Manson Sweet Dreams, RATM Ghost of Tom Joad, Limp Bizkit Sanitarium....I can't stand APC's When the Levee Breaks. I actually prefer Zeppelin's remake 🤣 So I'm not just a Maynard zealot either like many. Don't care for APC or Pucifer. 🤷♂️ Keep enjoying your music👍
@@LanceThompsonKssooner If you're not trying to start an argument, then you certainly didn't start the debate out right. My opinion my be wrong to you, but it doesn't matter to me, I've been listening to rock music over 50 years, the Beatles music puts the Stones to shame, and I like some of the Stones, at least the early stuff, but as far as composers, they're not in the same league. Anyway, I wish you the best on your musical journey, and I believe someday you'll understand my opinion on rock music
Live the opening riff jimmy uses a wah wah pedal
I think the etymology of 'no quarter' meaning 'no mercy' is that it comes from the practice whereby a victorious army who took captives and gave them mercy (didn't kill them) would have to house them which, is what 'to quarter them' meant. This was a more difficult, expensive and risky business for a conquering army. They would have to use soldiers to guard them and find food for them. They often only did it for the nobles whom they could ransom for a good price, but if the defeated army or town had resisted after being called upon to surrender, some conquering leaders would take vengeance by not sparing anyone, not even the nobles. The victorious army would be told to 'give no quarter'. To 'ask no quarter' is to ask for no mercy' e.g. fight to the death.
I was wondering if someone was going to answer their question as to what it meant, good job, probably much better than my short version would've been :)
Can't wait until Dev hits "In My Time of Dying."
Tool's version is live also. So it's not engineered... I love both versions
I thought I read that Tool's version was recorded for another album and/or a movie soundtrack but was never used, so they added it to Salival.
@@MusicforBusyPeople you’re right, they also did it live and the original comment confused the two
I subscribed hoping you guys react to more Tool!
If you delve into bootlegs of their live shows thru the years, you'll find that No Quarter was the song that Zep stretched and expanded the most, and in the most interesting ways. From night to night, John Paul Jones would improvise solos on keyboards and venture into completely different worlds night after night, with Jimmy and Bonzo following Jones wherever Jones took them. Jones would play anything in his No Quarter solos, from Beethoven to March of the Wooden Soldiers. No Quarter was played 20-30 minutes night after night, and never once the same way. A perfect example of a Zeppelin track that was brilliant on the album, but so much greater, live (like Dazed and Confused).
Robert has joked that he could have completed a full course in learning Croatian at the side of the stage during those long improvs…..😁
I think the Tool version is live, I believe all of Salival was
I thought there were a few non-live songs on that album, _No Quarter_ being one of them.
@@MusicforBusyPeople could be idk
I’d normally dismiss a Zeppelin (or a queen) cover out of hand. But you know what, I like the Tool version better.
The only other great Zeppelin cover I’ve heard is the London Philharmonic. That shocked me.
The reference is mount Thor.
As my top two favorite bands!
I absolutely lean the Tool remake, just love it!
The Tool version sounds more plodding to me for much of the song and the lyrics have been oversimplified though there are some interesting sections and it is atmospheric. It's interesting the way the pace picks up towards the end. Led Zeppelin wear their talent more lightly.
I really like your synopsis, especially about LZ "wearing their talent lightly." 😊
😊
Antother insightful reaction by these folks. I believe this song is in C minor. It is a great riff. It sounds even better juxtaposed against the haunting melody played by JPJ. This is Zeppelin at their most experimental and psychedelic. I fell like this is a direct ancestor to Kashmir and Ten Years Gone, on the next album, in both feeling and tempo; they are not psychedelic but both set a very different atmosphere. I liked the Tool version, although I think they threw in a homage to Rush at the end that altered the mood, and not in a good way for me. Still interesting and impressive. On a side note, how do these folks have less than 900 subscribers. Thanks for putting real thought into these videos and not just bobbing your head for 10 minutes and saying, "that was great". Really looking forward to seeing you react to Physical Grafitti, my favorite Zeppelin album. Thank you.
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What Led Zeppelin "do" is not within the capability of a normal conscious human mind to perceive. That is part of their beauty, it is beyond the deliberate design we all find ourselves shackled under in this life.
One of Zeppelin's finest imo, and as you guys so well said, a tune that looked forward from their heavy blues rock of yore...Tool version is cool, but still prefer Zeppelin's moody, subtle original...I really like Zep's more developed MSG live version of this as well...Thx again U2 for making music reactions SO much more interesting...
I am looking forward to the MSG version
@@MusicforBusyPeople ....noted that you guys would be doing the entire SRTS vid + extras...can't wait !
Totally get a Pink Floyd vibe from this song. It’s a real lay back, drink a glass of wine, smoke a joint, have a herbal tea, take deep breaths and close your eyes, take a bath and relax kind of song. And just enjoy the peacefulness, the lyrics and that badass piano.
Ok, now I know I’ve said it every single time but “No Quarter” is DEFINITELY my favourite never heard it before LZ track. Mike you are certainly introducing me to some fantastic music.
The Tool version I did not like so much. LZ miles better in my opinion.
Dev is on fantastic form, her observations and comments are a delight.
Great entertainment guys.
I agree about the Pink Floyd vibe.
But were Floyd really doing this in '72?
Not sure, but I don't think the Zep boys were trying to sound like anybody in particular. I could just imagine Floyd doing a song like this.
Actually, Magic and Chaser is the best comparison. Cheers!😄
Tool version is over the top, very cheesy, extravagant. Led Zeppelin "version" , the OG, is Jazzy, trippy, alternative, dream like. Is a god like tune from a legendary band.
Lol keep telling yourself that
hahaha, inderdaad...
Led Zeppelin is a difficult band to cover because the original songs are so strong. Most Zep covers that I've heard are primarily homages, and while Tool's version has merit, Tool can't help but sound like Tool, which is very good mind ypu, but as a basis of comparison, the original remains king. This was also Zep's jam tune, they'd go off on their own tangents every time they played it.
Exactly. The Tool version sounds decent, just not unique for them.
For me, Zep all the way. Tool version is pretty good, too, but more history with Zep...
Sorry but nobody does it like Zeppelin!! Live in 1973 at MSG is magnificent!
Absolutely! Again!!lol. Best wishes from 🏴 England.
Guys, this song is NOT about Vikings, in spite of the Thor reference. . If you've read Tolkien's Lord of the Rings trilogy, you'd recognize Aragorn's desperate mission to carry the news of a mercenary force planning to join with the armies of Sauron to defeat the forces of the free peoples of Middle Earth. The adventurers travel a dangerous, hidden path to reach these invaders first, asking help from an army of the dead who had broken their oath. Aragorn and his friends ask no quarter -- they will give their lives for freedom.
Re: the Tool version -- it's a good cover, but can't beat the original!
Wow…of course! I had always thought Medieval history…..but now that you mention it…..of course…The Way of The Dead….the path where no one goes….perfect. I’ve read those nooks several times and didn’t make that connection, even knowing Plant was a Tolkien freak…..like myself. Thanks!
There is NO comparison ... Tool, hands off Zeppelin if this is the result.
Tool was ok but is missing the LZ ambience. Jimmy and JPJ can make the music flow with emotion.
I like the channel, however, the Tool version is not as important to the evolving of the song
as is the LZ live versions.
Interesting point. Reaction to MSG 73 live version is coming very soon
Prefer LZ...but I am old school.
Song about a warrior who dies and goes to hell
No it's not.
Tools version is very good, but cmon zeppelin is zeppelin
Tool's version is alright. Led Zeppelin's original version is of course an 20 out of 10. Tool's version is maybe 5 out of 10
Sorry but I can't stand the Zep vocals.... But I do agree with you about the intro vocals of the tool version
It's a good thing so many people love them. Such a versatile voice that can sing high and low, create moods and simulate a musical instrument at times.
@@heliotropezzz333 I like Zep vocals on some songs... But this one I just can't get into... I think it's the cadence
@@Soljarag5 They did something technical to his voice to make it sound weird, and it also sounds desperate at times, but that fits with the mood of the song, I thought.
If you review the live version don't bother with the visuals as it just takes away from the music. Also make sure you review the full original edit with the long build up.
Er how can you do a live version and disregard the live visuals? 😂
@@lyndoncmp5751 The visuals are from the Song Remains the Same and most of it is John Paul Jones' fantasy sequence. There is another upload on UA-cam but it's a mash -up video made by the uploader.
@@m.b-ee8815 it's an awful version, the original from the movie is the one to watch
@@Ledzepnut The first version from the double vinyl soundtrack from the movie is the one to listen to.
@m.b-ee8815 @Ledzepnut We are using the version from the film (i.e. 2018 soundtrack), but I have spliced in two sections from the original 1976 soundtrack to make it longer (and better). 🤓
LZ is for women, Tool is for men
Watched it twice.
Went from a thumbs up to a thumbs down.
Reason is, dissing the Tool version from start to the end, omly to to talk positive about it when the song is over.
Best regards from a Tool lover that actually finds the original the best.
Exactly they made up their minds from the start then said moronic things like "not unique" while also saying " that was totally different"
what, no live no quarter? i think you fumbled
It's coming
It’s actually very unique. It’s not supposed to be Led Zeppelin‘s version. It’s supposed to be tools, interpretation, and hands-down they did remarkable,,, let go of the past I think theTOOL version is technically 100% better than Led Zeppelin
Remember when Coca-Cola tried to come out with the new Coke? Same thing here, leave the classic version alone, just doesn't work.
Tool is better
Tool was better, IMO
Who sings No Quarter? Led Zeppelin….Let’s keep it that way…..
Until tool made a better cover
Tool version. Not good .......
You're right. It's the best
The pinkestfloyd song that zep did
Yup I call it zeps nod to floyd
Have to agree
These are the kinds of people that go to olive garden and complain it isnt good hahaha
Someone's got pink-eye!
The alien from rosetta stoned does not like Tool 😂😂
Tool version is like an Emo one 🤣 Cringe
How is it cringe? It hits harder and is way more creative with the material, honestly I love Zeppelin but I always felt no Quarter was really messy the way it sounds between the reverberation in the singing.
@@Gideonite I mean your comparing a song that was made from 70 to 72 To a song made in 2000 with special effects and Alot more tech added to the song of course its gonna sound to you more creative With the emo twist they put on it, is cringe asf kinda embarrassing that a band from the 70s can still hold a candle to this made years later
Tool’s is way better…..
@@50NewEyes To an emo yes
Cant believe people like their dumb version