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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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    We know War of the Spark is going to involve dozens of planeswalkers in an epic battle for Ravnica with Nicol Bolas and his army of Eternals. When the dust settles, who will be left standing? Place your bets!
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  • @necrogenesis1981
    @necrogenesis1981 5 років тому +574

    The set is called War of the Spark, so naturally Optimus Prime and Megatron will show up. Optimus will of course die for the millionth time.

    • @haydenrhardy1204
      @haydenrhardy1204 5 років тому +9

      Thankyou! In this optimus should fall on a giant spike, and then have his planeswalker spark ignite and then planeswalk to the core of cybertron and heal his wounds.

    • @necrogenesis1981
      @necrogenesis1981 5 років тому +1

      @@haydenrhardy1204 A Quietus Spike?

    • @haydenrhardy1204
      @haydenrhardy1204 5 років тому +1

      @@necrogenesis1981 yes...

    • @BackyardRonin
      @BackyardRonin 5 років тому

      Til all are one!!

    • @WusigiDr1
      @WusigiDr1 5 років тому +4

      One shall stand, one shall fall.

  • @MostEnvious
    @MostEnvious 5 років тому +473

    "Dack Fayden, zero." first and only planeswalker to die in the trailer. Ooof did not age well lol.

    • @EleosLupus
      @EleosLupus 5 років тому +12

      40 Miles of Bad Rhoads I was looking for this exact comment rofl

    • @TheCrazyPlayer
      @TheCrazyPlayer 5 років тому +5

      Is that who that was? It was clearly someone significant, but I had no idea who.

    • @felicityplays9989
      @felicityplays9989 5 років тому +5

      Pretty sure Liliana melts to death inthe trailer as well.

    • @EleosLupus
      @EleosLupus 5 років тому +7

      Felicity Plays Maybe, but the fact that they did not actually show her dead makes me think she might somehow survive. Though I may be completely wrong, just a feeling I get.

    • @ozrithclay6921
      @ozrithclay6921 5 років тому +2

      @@TheCrazyPlayer
      The red hand made him kinda obvious

  • @cas126
    @cas126 5 років тому +921

    Sorin will be there as a legendary land

    • @jsum33
      @jsum33 5 років тому +25

      You watched TheSpice8Rack video too?

    • @shad0wtemplar
      @shad0wtemplar 5 років тому +3

      😂

    • @Rukalin
      @Rukalin 5 років тому +72

      I'd prefer him as a legendary wall. Imagine having a wall as a commander.

    • @aurielx3671
      @aurielx3671 5 років тому +5

      Rukalin I wish breaking the wall would release a Sorin

    • @MidAtEverything
      @MidAtEverything 5 років тому +19

      @@Rukalin 2WB
      0/4 indestructible defender
      4wb : flip this card into sorin

  • @TheSkizz89
    @TheSkizz89 5 років тому +270

    Gideon: "You have my sword."
    Vivien: "And you have my bow."
    Garruk: "And MY Axe."

    • @MehrGills
      @MehrGills 5 років тому +4

      lord of the rings!!!

    • @coffeecaesar1443
      @coffeecaesar1443 5 років тому +23

      Garruk proceeded to butcher all the Planeswalkers within a 25 mile radius.

    • @SalientLamprophany
      @SalientLamprophany 5 років тому +9

      I always thought it would be sick if Garruk showed up out of nowhere, saw the most menacing, most hunt-worthy Planeswalker of all, and dealt the finishing blow on Bolas. He is supposed to be crazy strong, right? Like Ajani levels of strong?

    • @danielkubicek1323
      @danielkubicek1323 5 років тому +10

      Garruk proceeds to put ax into Bolas, then realizes that he just caught the ultimate Planeswalker prey and goes to sulk in his trophy room.

    • @ulipeterson6112
      @ulipeterson6112 5 років тому +5

      AAH, its Garruk!
      Run! RUN, YOU FOOLS!!!

  • @yonathankrieger2870
    @yonathankrieger2870 5 років тому +183

    "For you, the day Bolas graced your plane was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday."
    -to Vivien Reid

    • @lordoflard1207
      @lordoflard1207 5 років тому +8

      Ha. I see what u did their. In comes the new planswalker M. Bison. He use's his psycho power to destroy Bolas.

    • @the_frozen_tortoise
      @the_frozen_tortoise 5 років тому

      @@lordoflard1207 Of course!

    • @epmepm7496
      @epmepm7496 5 років тому

      ha ha ha

  • @TheRui1999
    @TheRui1999 5 років тому +536

    Sorin: Let me in.
    LET ME INNNNNNNNN!!!!!!

    • @WitherFang
      @WitherFang 5 років тому +24

      More like: LET ME OUT!

    • @shadowjeric
      @shadowjeric 5 років тому +4

      I'd love to see Sorin join the gatewatch but he was last seen stuck in a wall.

    • @Slymarauder
      @Slymarauder 5 років тому +11

      Is it because he’s a vampire and has to ask to come in? Lmao

    • @lollobarbaro6243
      @lollobarbaro6243 5 років тому +8

      I'd love to see sorin pop in but still in a rock like "hey, I'm here to fight! Can anyone get me out tho?"

    • @vorthosnick
      @vorthosnick 5 років тому

      @@shadowjeric No way in hell sheisty ass Sorin would join. Who would trust him? Jace would know better, literally.

  • @ceoofgrilledcheese3299
    @ceoofgrilledcheese3299 5 років тому +117

    3:06 Dack! Odds of death? Zero.
    *laughs in latest trailer*

  • @andrewsaho1396
    @andrewsaho1396 5 років тому +292

    Uh, no offence, but Tibalt will obviously be the one to deal the killing blow to Nicol Bolas. He is the strongest planeswalker after all

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +22

      (Ryan) It is known!

    • @danzansandeev6033
      @danzansandeev6033 5 років тому +16

      you know if that happen for real i wouldn't be surprised. imagine it like bolas totally disregard tibalt as a threat leaving an opening for him... buuuut i bet tibalt would find a way to screw this up

    • @Kuronosa
      @Kuronosa 5 років тому +14

      He's probably the only one crazy enough to punch him without caring about what he does.

    • @andrewsaho1396
      @andrewsaho1396 5 років тому +10

      True, its a guilty pleasure of mine and my play group critisises me for it all the time. But Tibalt is probably one of my favorite planeswalkers lore wise, and it sucks how wizards screwed him iver.

    • @TheTrueLeafless
      @TheTrueLeafless 5 років тому +10

      Probably right before Nicol Bolas wins and tries to absorb everyones power Tibalt will jump in and takes it in instead...making him "Tibalt, The Infinite"...for like 2 minutes and then scatters the energy as he can't hold it.

  • @filippodardi2180
    @filippodardi2180 5 років тому +216

    Oh god, Huatli and Saheeli *NEED* to build a Dino-Mecha-Flamethrowing-Stompy-Planeswalky-Thingus

    • @NickK1291
      @NickK1291 5 років тому +10

      This is literally what un-sets (unhinged/unglued) are meant for!

    • @NerdPhil
      @NerdPhil 5 років тому +9

      The classic dinosaurs with laser combination!

    • @supremeverdict359
      @supremeverdict359 5 років тому +13

      They build a Gundam then they'll f*ck New Phyrexia :3

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 5 років тому +9

      Well, Kaladesh and Ixalan have both had vehicles... Maybe a MELD VEHICLE

    • @Demadragon
      @Demadragon 5 років тому +3

      Planeswalkers with attitude, eh? :)

  • @roy4173
    @roy4173 5 років тому +187

    Magic Arcanum. Odds of death. Zero! At least I hope so anyway. Thank you for the great content!

  • @mattman8436
    @mattman8436 5 років тому +19

    Things we absolutely need that you mentioned: Liliana lich and definitely Kaladesh dino zords fighting Bolas. Great work!

    • @pitadude9836
      @pitadude9836 5 років тому +2

      Lichiana of the Vale confirmed

    • @mattman8436
      @mattman8436 5 років тому +2

      Then the Raven Man rolls in like a smooth operator and things really go to hell!

    • @pitadude9836
      @pitadude9836 5 років тому +1

      Raven Man will already be there 😉 it's all about the eyes

    • @wesh8121
      @wesh8121 5 років тому

      Wouldn't be new, urza went all megazord when going after yawgmoth

    • @mattman8436
      @mattman8436 5 років тому

      @@wesh8121 but wouldn't it be cool if you could morph the mechs together using some sort of new mechanic and create a mega magic ultra zord once transformed??

  • @ivanfuchs2820
    @ivanfuchs2820 5 років тому +21

    5 color ajani beats bolas at the last moment when planeswalkers from different colors give/lend their powers to him in order to defeat bolas. Some lose their spark in the process, others die in the aftermath/explosion of the city of ravnica. Ugin and Bolas disappear together in a binding spell that exiles them beyond death in the blind eternities thanks to spell from tamiyo.

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +1

      (Ryan) Could be!

    • @SaintCreeps
      @SaintCreeps 5 років тому +1

      Not a bad theory, but Ajani might be Nolas' first target since Ajani beat him.

    • @ivanfuchs2820
      @ivanfuchs2820 5 років тому +1

      @@SaintCreeps i think they show up on the weatherlight in the culmination of battle with other heroes and in a last string of events he turns the tides by binding other planeswalkers soul/spark/power whatever to himself and in a last all or nothing shot defeats bolas but doesnt kill him because he is too powerful and then tamiyo and ugin do the magic and disappear with a weakened bolas.

    • @silverdeathgamer2907
      @silverdeathgamer2907 5 років тому

      @@ivanfuchs2820 scryfall.com/card/m19/4/ajanis-last-stand ?

    • @josephdevita2938
      @josephdevita2938 5 років тому

      Could see ajani defeating him once more even bolas said he didnt want to be on a plane that ajani is currently on due to his sheer will and power

  • @legendaryrat
    @legendaryrat 5 років тому +409

    What if they shoot the Blackblade at Nicol with the Arkbow?

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +73

      (Ryan) An idea so crazy it just might work

    • @ebonstone2980
      @ebonstone2980 5 років тому +22

      @@tcgplayercom That's one way to avoid the corruption--when the Blackblade kills without being held.

    • @raindropdreams8
      @raindropdreams8 5 років тому +1

      lol

    • @TheTrueLeafless
      @TheTrueLeafless 5 років тому +7

      How about unleashing the Nephilim on him...they were created by consuming dragon magic, so they should crave for more

    • @oobernoober100
      @oobernoober100 5 років тому +17

      I am the bone of my sword

  • @BretasDoc
    @BretasDoc 5 років тому +108

    I think Boss baby and Shrek will be entirely important characters to the franchise and will not die.

    • @turkeygrasslesnatch4742
      @turkeygrasslesnatch4742 5 років тому +7

      why did i read this in Dunkey's voice?

    • @LopsidedMoz
      @LopsidedMoz 5 років тому +5

      If they don't bring in boss baby i think i'll quit mtg

  • @RazCroz22
    @RazCroz22 5 років тому +34

    So. Wizards confirmed that there will be 36 planeswalkers in next set. Candles on the candlebrar represent them. Bolas' plan is to kill them all. So they will come, one way or another. So no "safe on another plane" this time.
    There might be much more killing than you anticipated. You might need to make a updated video.
    Does anybody else noticed the lack of Koth there?
    RIP confirmed

    • @rmk9892
      @rmk9892 5 років тому

      Garruk as well

    • @hamlet8179
      @hamlet8179 3 роки тому +2

      This is very funny in retrospect

  • @tcgplayercom
    @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +198

    (Ryan) Ok! Couple of notes and things I want to address:
    Edit on April 1 - for my revised chances of death, come join me on twitter: twitter.com/Magic_Arcanum/status/1112714658832678912
    1. I pronounce "necromancer" weird. Deal with it.
    2. Some planeswalkers are missing from this list, notably Koth, but also ones like Aminatou. For anyone I didn't talk about, assume their odds are 0 out of 3 and I don't expect to see them in War of the Spark.
    3. I based all my predictions assuming each Planeswalker could decide for themselves if they wanted to come to Ravnica. In other words, I assume they are not FORCED there by magical means or by Ral's signal beacon. This means some characters could chose not to come at all and thus would be pretty safe, while others would put themselves at risk by investigating the call. My odds would change (and the body count too) if we confirmed everyone was brought to Ravnica against their own will.
    4. You all are great. ONE MILLION total views! Be nice to each other. Lots of crazy ideas are getting tossed around in the comments and I want them each to be respected, no matter how off the wall they are. That's part of the fun.
    5. Seriously, necromancer? Nobody cares how I say Garruk but NECROMANCER?

    • @danzansandeev6033
      @danzansandeev6033 5 років тому +3

      am i only one who misses Koth? i get that he is on new phyrexia with mirrodin resistance but still

    • @necrogenesis1981
      @necrogenesis1981 5 років тому +2

      @@danzansandeev6033 Isn't he a prisoner of Elesh Norn?

    • @danzansandeev6033
      @danzansandeev6033 5 років тому +2

      @@necrogenesis1981 he is? what happened after new phyrexia was officially formed?
      i kinda left on melira being last hope for mirrodin and koth staying behind to protect his home when every other planeswalker left.

    • @alps3DV
      @alps3DV 5 років тому

      What about Ramaz

    • @necrogenesis1981
      @necrogenesis1981 5 років тому +1

      @@danzansandeev6033 Honestly I'm not sure either, it's just a guess considering after the spellbomb was detonated his fate is currently unknown, but he's more than likely still alive at least. Last I remember of that particular storyline though Elesh Norn was chasing him and Elspeth.

  • @Skullgrin.
    @Skullgrin. 5 років тому +63

    I want Huatli and Saheeli to show up using their own planar bridge with an army of mechanical dinosaurs.
    Because what could be cooler than ROBOT DINOSAURS FIGHTING STONE ZOMBIES, C'MON WIZARDS!

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +6

      (Ryan) Yes. YES.

    • @fidly4
      @fidly4 5 років тому +1

      Well, it's at least confirmed they'll both show up.

    • @zero_4te
      @zero_4te 5 років тому +2

      This is where the card Grimlock, Dinobot Leader comes in

  • @j.chanslor8221
    @j.chanslor8221 5 років тому +67

    The Spice 8 Rack says hello lol

  • @dathore
    @dathore 5 років тому +9

    I think Bolas would say something like, "a weapon to strike down a dragon, can not strike down a god!" when Vivien takes her shot and misses, I feel he'd mock her for it, and play on the whole "god pharaoh" thing he had on Amonketh.

  • @stealthgrrr
    @stealthgrrr 5 років тому +27

    Sarkhan is going down in a big beautiful dragon-y blaze of glory. He practically has Jon Bon Jovi hair.

    • @cadenglass1387
      @cadenglass1387 5 років тому +1

      Riding Nix while breathing ghost fire!!!!

    • @MarcSiqueira
      @MarcSiqueira 5 років тому

      I wont even get sad if that happens, i like sarkhan very much but if he goes down tanking bolas in a freaking huge bogardan dragon form, i will praise the dragon.

  • @anarchond
    @anarchond 5 років тому +132

    Im glad you make this info easy to obtain. Wizards sure doesn't like their story to be well known lol
    P.s. loved the poker joke

    • @123456789moification
      @123456789moification 5 років тому +1

      Black Jack kid. Black Jack.

    • @andrewjacobs5686
      @andrewjacobs5686 5 років тому +1

      @@123456789moification and the term was used incorrectly. Push means "no winner/tie"

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +1

      (Ryan) Yeah, there is no winner on a bet regarding Elspeth, because there is nothing to bet on. The outcome is already known.

    • @lizzytrip4560
      @lizzytrip4560 5 років тому

      @@tcgplayercom idk, with the reprint of an Elspeth card, with her carrying the Death Mask i cant be sure

  • @tyson263
    @tyson263 5 років тому +57

    Whoever did that x men thumbnail deserves a raise

  • @TheguitarmasterORZ1
    @TheguitarmasterORZ1 5 років тому +20

    "Sorin: odds of deat--HE'S STUCK IN A ROCK" and he somehow made it to the fight... *How the hell did he made it out of that rock???*

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +3

      (Ryan) I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

  • @alexanderwhite3070
    @alexanderwhite3070 5 років тому +5

    Stuff confirmed by card spoilers as of 4/20/2019
    - Domri: Dead
    - Gideon: Dead
    - Bolas: Defeated, but not dead

  • @DefinitelyNotReal627
    @DefinitelyNotReal627 5 років тому +80

    "Kneecromancer"

  • @owllord3346
    @owllord3346 5 років тому +50

    The SPICE 8 RACK dude is pretty Great in retelling in a Comedic Tone the MTG Lore, But Ryan Is the V-SAUCE of MTG lore

    • @Spice8Rack
      @Spice8Rack 5 років тому +26

      Ryan is phenomenal and I can only HOPE to one day get to the level of this quality!

  • @alyssaschochler7371
    @alyssaschochler7371 5 років тому +1

    I would love love LOVE to see a series of in-depth videos on the stories of all the planeswalkers through Magic history

  • @WrathOfMega
    @WrathOfMega 5 років тому +43

    Your guess for vraska was too low, that's a hard 100% for me. If Vraska lives then WOTC has to deal with the political ramifications of the rest of the Guilds finding out that _The Living Guildpact_ is shagging _The Queen of the Golgari_ and I don't think they want to deal with that.

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +16

      (Ryan) Well I have to admit that's an angle I definitely didn't consider lol

    • @danzansandeev6033
      @danzansandeev6033 5 років тому +17

      is it wierd that i kinda want this ship to survive?

    • @haeilsey
      @haeilsey 5 років тому +7

      Maybe vraska abdicates to go on adventures

    • @pitadude9836
      @pitadude9836 5 років тому +4

      @@danzansandeev6033 if that's weird I don't want to be normal. That said, I don't think it survives

    • @Tzzrt_Unbrkn
      @Tzzrt_Unbrkn 5 років тому +11

      The oath of Vraska, the new captain of the weatherlight. You heard it here first.

  • @clargoon
    @clargoon 5 років тому +25

    I liked your reaction to Sorin PFAAAAH STUCK IN A ROCK. That said, if Tybalt doesn't show up, I'm going to revolt

    • @Ovcharka88
      @Ovcharka88 5 років тому +2

      Possibly aether revolt ;) eh eh

    • @clargoon
      @clargoon 5 років тому +3

      @@Ovcharka88 I was thinking about making that joke but thought it would be too cheesy!

    • @Ovcharka88
      @Ovcharka88 5 років тому +2

      @@clargoon it was so cheesy you could say I was " the cheese who stands alone" ok I'll stop now haha

    • @NickK1291
      @NickK1291 5 років тому +6

      Sorin will return as a legendary land the next time we revisit Innistrad...

    • @thomasbingham1721
      @thomasbingham1721 5 років тому

      This aged like milk

  • @vakuzar
    @vakuzar 5 років тому +13

    I was just thinking that I was missing some Arcanum videos, boy am I happy to see you back.

  • @Crimsonclaw_
    @Crimsonclaw_ 5 років тому +21

    Now that we have all 36 Planeswalkers in this set revealed, maybe you could redo this video?

  • @freshrimp9013
    @freshrimp9013 5 років тому +40

    "Dack odds of death 0" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

    • @alucard8433
      @alucard8433 5 років тому

      He might not die. The trailer never showed his death when time went back normal.

    • @freshrimp9013
      @freshrimp9013 5 років тому

      @@alucard8433 True he may not stay dead but he still died and it's still funny. :)

  • @fireball5655
    @fireball5655 5 років тому +5

    Maybe Bolas doesn't need to kill planeswalkers in order to achieve whatever it is he is up to, but rather just needs a lot of planeswalkers (sparks) to be on the plane at once, similar to how the Eye of Ugin only works when there are 3 planeswalkers present.
    Would set up really well for a set that has a planeswalker in every booster pack, just like there was flip-card in every Shadow Over Inni pack - which is kinda what I'm expecting. That would be really cool to see, because such an abundance of planeswalker cards would push Wizards towards designing planeswalkers in some unique ways we haven't seen before, plus there would definitely be some good superfriends cards in the set.

    • @pedramcq
      @pedramcq 5 років тому +4

      I think so too, the candles going out in the teaser a lot of people thought that meant their lives being snuffed out when it can represent their sparks. But also realistically, once their sparks are gone they can also be vulnerable and possibly die in the war U_U

    • @silasbetit9659
      @silasbetit9659 5 років тому

      I think they just confirmed that there will be a planeswalker in every pack.

    • @fireball5655
      @fireball5655 5 років тому

      @@silasbetit9659 yes they did, I called it :)

  • @Cluis.
    @Cluis. 5 років тому +55

    I wanna see Garruk show up and kill every planeswalker at Ravnica Punisher style ... 👍

    • @TCG9777
      @TCG9777 5 років тому +2

      Naaah

    • @jacquesdespadas
      @jacquesdespadas 5 років тому +5

      Probably takes a swing at Bolas (the greatest potential trophy of all time, right?) so that Wizards can "redeem" him.

    • @nonofyabidnez5737
      @nonofyabidnez5737 5 років тому +2

      The Apex Predator fucking shit up would be great!

    • @soppydogproductions
      @soppydogproductions 5 років тому +6

      They are all fight mid fight, rip and tear starts playing in the distance as he appears

    • @1mealer
      @1mealer 5 років тому

      The clear middle ground to avoid pandering too much to the Jacetice League or Legion of Bolas

  • @FangPT
    @FangPT 5 років тому +1

    I Just binged on all your "Magic Arcanum" series including the Bolas saga. This is some of the best MTG content on youtube. Also, now I'm sad that I don't have anymore to watch :(

  • @AskTheBartender
    @AskTheBartender 5 років тому +7

    What if the War of the Spark is that Nicol Bolas has found a way to create/steal planeswalker sparks and give them to other people?
    How crazy would that be?

    • @Belberith
      @Belberith 5 років тому

      His mosaic art shows wispy, glowing things flying towards him, so I bet that Bolas actually does have some way to absorb other people's sparks. Could be what he's hoping to use to become a god again.

  • @Valdreag17
    @Valdreag17 5 років тому +7

    I still want to see the split Elspeth planeswalkers- one zombie, one eidolon. That would be great.

  • @redlacer1
    @redlacer1 5 років тому +57

    I don't think Gideon will die here, but I do think that he WILL die on Theros and use it as a means to meet Elspeth and the two escape the Underworld along with Dack Fayden's help.

    • @ashra8281
      @ashra8281 5 років тому +5

      Nah he mega dead, he's so gonna sacrifice himself for someone and die, knowing he will die to prove the flavour text in gideon's defeat wrong

    • @RaunienTheFirst
      @RaunienTheFirst 5 років тому +1

      @redlacer1 that's pretty smart actually. It was predicted that he would die the next time he faces a god, so what if he's like "hey, Heliod ya dick, come and get me!" in order to die so he can reach Elspeth?

    • @ebonstone2980
      @ebonstone2980 5 років тому +2

      The one thing I'm certain about: Gideon will get corrupted by The Blackblade.

    • @luisf.delcanto3167
      @luisf.delcanto3167 5 років тому +1

      I think it will be in Theros, he gotta revenge his friends in combat with Erebos, the god of DEATH.

    • @MidAtEverything
      @MidAtEverything 5 років тому +3

      @@ebonstone2980 you might be right
      Gideon becoming an orzhov could be a thing
      cause from the trailer his heart is pierced and we all know Chad dying before his climax is either lazy elspeth (again) or another forget moment

  • @toastman3421
    @toastman3421 5 років тому +26

    So this video was done before the pictures confirming all the planeswalkers, huh?

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +11

      (Ryan) By about 24 hours, yep.

    • @erebos42
      @erebos42 5 років тому +9

      @@tcgplayercom
      Ryan: "although I was not really expecting him to be part of the war anyway."
      Wizards: **confirms Tibalt**
      RIP

    • @thanalincoln
      @thanalincoln 3 роки тому

      Nice pfp

    • @toastman3421
      @toastman3421 3 роки тому

      @@thanalincoln no go qway

  • @user-qt8uy5vv7n
    @user-qt8uy5vv7n 5 років тому +5

    What if Liliana actually kills another planeswalker (one from the GW), and then the shock frees her from Bolas' grasp, and she flees away. She would still retain her good'n bad reputation, somehow remain in the GW while not being fully accepted. I don't think she will die, same argument than the one you had with Jace, she's too popular.
    Also I'd love to see Bolas finally die (and a bunch of other PW, as they are too many now). MTG would benefit from a fresh villain.
    Great vid BTW !

    • @andrewsparkes8829
      @andrewsparkes8829 5 років тому

      Or, to use the time travel idea, instead of just killing Bolas in the past, and still has the contract, as theorised in the video...as a more tragic sacrifice, what if she decides to never sign the contract in the first place, allowing her to kill Bolas as she was now never linked to him, but will also mean she will never get to see her friends ever again! (Since this time she will die much younger than she currently is.)

  • @DavidFernandez-vt3qn
    @DavidFernandez-vt3qn 5 років тому +31

    I'd bump Vraska's odds of death to 3 out of 3. Why? Because Jace will need some Manpain™ to do what must be done to finally kill Nicol Bolas. Also it'll get rid of the competition for Jace to be paired up with Liliana, who will most likely survive to further the whole Raven Man storyline. Though I DO like your idea of her becoming a lich.
    Tin Foil Theory: A lot of hype was made in backstory that Nicol and Ugin were the only elder dragons who didn't have two names. I think that in the end they will both merge together to create Nicol Ugin. Something something two halves of a soul, something something balance.

    • @danielwhite1890
      @danielwhite1890 5 років тому +3

      What if *Jace* dies

    • @NickK1291
      @NickK1291 5 років тому +8

      @@danielwhite1890 then all of the magic community with rejoice in WotC's growth of a spine and refocus on quality (of both product and setting).

    • @Vamoss39
      @Vamoss39 5 років тому +2

      @Daniel White: Jace WON'T die. He's one of the Lorywn Five, The main Blue Planeswalker, and he still has potential left for a story.

    • @ROTCemail
      @ROTCemail 5 років тому +3

      What if Jace has to decide between Liliana and vraska

    • @danielwhite1890
      @danielwhite1890 5 років тому +2

      @@Vamoss39 inb4 Jace dies

  • @lennartrentzow4821
    @lennartrentzow4821 5 років тому +8

    Nice video as always, love Magic Arcanum.
    My thoughts on some of the characters, where I got a slightly different opinion:
    -Karn: I disagree with the 1/3 odds. WotC clrearly intends to bring back the Phyrexia plotline at some point and since I believe the overarching storyline of the gatewatch is supposed to end with WAR, I think it's unlikely for the Gatewatch to continue the Phyrexian plotline, especially since they don't really have a history with the plane, unlike Karn: 0%
    -Nissa: I think there's a good chance she will appear in WAR, but I am absolutely certain she won't die, whether she goes to Ravnica or not. I honestly can't even explain why, I just don't feel like she's the type of character they would kill of in WAR. I believe she's one of the characters in the MtG lore that will just have a happy end somewhere down the line: 0%
    By the way I completely agree on the Vivien part lol. She seems so insignificant and not fletched out, with her sole purpose being her relation to Nicol Bolas, that it only makes sense to her to go out in WAR aswell. I don't really see a future for her storyline anyways. Also it would really be kinda hilarious and fitting for Bolas, that a planeswalker basically dedicates everything in her life to defeating Bolas only to fail miserably and die first.
    Edit: Turns out that pretty much everyone expect Garruk is confirmed to be on Ravnica in WAR, so I guess I'm wrong on that. Also we're both wrong on giving a lot of Walkers a 0% chance to die because they will appear in WAR against all expectations lol

    • @jacquesdespadas
      @jacquesdespadas 5 років тому

      I'm thinking Gideon goes down (story arc be damned), Vivien avenges him and then accompanies Karn to New Phyrexia.

  • @cjone1232
    @cjone1232 5 років тому +1

    "Sit around and laugh at how wrong I was" I just found this channel after hearing about the 36 planeswalkers that will get cards. Too bad this wasn't filmed two days later! My guess (I have no info for this) is that Ashiok has been quietly building a nightmare army and is the hero of the set!

  • @Josh_Fredman
    @Josh_Fredman 5 років тому +3

    From a branding / corporate perspective (which supersedes the needs of the story, sadly), planeswalkers are the core of Magic and Wizards is super conservative about killing them off. I think we've only had one permadeath (Venser) in many years. So, as far as permadeath goes, I think that's a de facto free pass for popular walkers like Liliana (the third most popular walker after Jace and Chandra) and Bolas himself (Magic's most popular villain).
    Having said that, from a dramatic standpoint I think War of the Spark is the kind of story where, if you're going to kill planeswalkers, this is the time to do it. Bolas should die once and for all, here on Ravnica, or maybe suffer a Sauron-style fate where Jace cracks that egg between his horns, causing Bolas to be defeated so utterly that he's reduced to existing as some vaguely threatening wind. Gideon is also being set up for death, though I prefer the idea of him "dying" on Theros to be able to see Elspeth rather than permadying on Ravnica. Liliana doesn't need to die per se, but this needs to be the end of her whole story arc up to this point, and either she needs to die or else grow as a character and begin a whole new arc.
    As for who I hope doesn't die, I sure hope they don't kill off Vraska. I liked her character from the beginning, and even more since Ixalan. I hate it when cool female characters get killed off to provide motivation to male protagonists. It's way too common a trope. I hope she's got a lot of interesting adventures ahead of her.
    Lastly, I'm adding my vote to Saheeli and Huatli showing up to Ravnica in Hyper Mega Dino Zords. Throw in some of Huatli's exquisitely awful poetry and my inner twelve-year-old will die of joy.

  • @omgidkwhatimdoing9626
    @omgidkwhatimdoing9626 5 років тому +32

    If planeswalkers die, and vivan doesn't die, I will personally clog all of wizards' toilets.

    • @adambishop568
      @adambishop568 5 років тому +5

      Using hundreds of Nexus of Fate cards ***

  • @lumijo2407
    @lumijo2407 5 років тому +32

    I think you're overestimating the chances of anybody, even Bolas, dying. Marketing gets real upset when you kill their iconography.

    • @Valdreag17
      @Valdreag17 5 років тому +1

      Lumi Jo Marketing also loves it when people buy new product because a big event is going on. Yes, it’s hard to start a new advertising campaign, but when you’re buying into a story with characters, those characters can die. It’s expected by everyone.

    • @PrismZet
      @PrismZet 5 років тому +1

      Big point that death isn't really final for much of the magic story either. so not a huge worry when you can write around it.

  • @maxmercurythemm827
    @maxmercurythemm827 5 років тому +3

    "Sorin? Haha, you're stuck in a rock!"
    Joke's on you, he's in.

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +1

      (Ryan) Joke is really on me, I had to preview his card :-)

  • @assmonkey267
    @assmonkey267 2 роки тому

    Ryan I don’t know if you still read every comment but I love just putting on this channel and having it on repeat thank you for such a lovingly created show.

  • @victorperron8092
    @victorperron8092 5 років тому +6

    I was waiting for that! Thanks man, I have not watched yet but I know I will have a great time!

  • @somethingclever4456
    @somethingclever4456 5 років тому +12

    Vraska can’t die. She just got a good character arc. Come on

  • @alien-probeunit4649
    @alien-probeunit4649 4 роки тому +2

    "Dack Fayden, chance of death: zero." *snorts*
    "Gideon, chance of death: 1/3." *snorts again*

  • @noahhoffenberg6971
    @noahhoffenberg6971 5 років тому

    One of my favourite things about magic the gathering is the story and how the cards tell that story

  • @Hostilemob01
    @Hostilemob01 5 років тому +5

    I think that liliana will sacrifice herself to save jace and Ravnica. But jace will use the chain veil to kill Nicol Bolas, becoming a demon telepath with Tibalt as his raven man character.

  • @SigismundSimp
    @SigismundSimp 5 років тому +3

    Magic arcanum needs its own channel

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +1

      (Ryan) ...but I work for TCGplayer!

    • @SigismundSimp
      @SigismundSimp 5 років тому

      TCGplayer I know Ryan, but I’m saying that this content is so amazing it would certainly succeed as standalone content on its own channel :)

  • @maksymb8498
    @maksymb8498 5 років тому

    I am very happy that finally appeared a person who explains the story of the game in the form of films , not only in the form of articles. Great job !

  • @TheMaximo384
    @TheMaximo384 5 років тому +4

    Well, joke's on you, Sorin got out of that wall and he's reaaaady to rumble xDDDDD

  • @halfwing3306
    @halfwing3306 5 років тому +15

    I think Vivien lives, specifically because of the Arkbow. I think the Simic and Vannifar take interest in Vivien and the bow. Vivien becomes blue/green, and the first, true, Simic Ascendant, combining the souls and spirits of her home plane animals with Vannifars mastery of physical form. Vivien gets her victory over Bolas, she gets to live out her life as a planeswalker representative of her home plane both physically, spiritually, and thematically. (vivien's home plane after all is a bunch of artificers and a bunch of elves, blue, and green). This would also help explain why viviens original text is so generic. They could do some absolutely wild stuff with a 'Vivien, Simic Ascendant'. planeswalker.

  • @michaelcassidy5022
    @michaelcassidy5022 5 років тому +7

    Are you going to adjust odds, given that a lot of your zeroes were justified by "I doubt they'll be there" and now we've got confirmation they actually will?

    • @nitemayer17
      @nitemayer17 5 років тому

      Michael Cassidy I have the same question

    • @freshrimp9013
      @freshrimp9013 5 років тому

      Considering one of is odds of death he rated 0 just got the fucking shit yeeted out of him by a fucking eternal he might need to. XD

  • @DeltaTwoNiner
    @DeltaTwoNiner 5 років тому

    One up the crazy theory with this one.
    Liliana goes back in time with the help of Teferi and prevents her own spark from igniting, never forging the contracts with the demons, and never meeting up with the gate watch.

  • @TheMatthew001
    @TheMatthew001 5 років тому

    i honestly can't thank you enough. so many times i've wanted to know something about the magic lore but its always so daunting to get into it, or not immediately get lost in the sea of places, characters and events you need to know about for a story. you manage to break it all down into a digestible and entertaining video explaining the part of the story i was interested in. thank you for being my go to source on the magic the gathering story.

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому

      (Ryan) Thanks for the kind words and I hope you enjoy many more episodes with us!

  • @Straightvedge
    @Straightvedge 5 років тому +10

    Arlen Kord and Saheeli make a Dino robot, Grimlock mattel promo card is then made Canon.

  • @jarsims8038
    @jarsims8038 5 років тому +3

    Hey man I love hearing these. The nicol bolas saga was fantastic

  • @primordiusdarkmoon3565
    @primordiusdarkmoon3565 5 років тому +2

    I like how almost everyone he said wouldn't be in war of the spark is in war of the spark

  • @jacobking2032
    @jacobking2032 2 роки тому +2

    "Gideon shouldn't die, he has to complete his story arc!"
    Not only dies, but is the most prolific death in the War and ALSO doesn't show up again in Theros: Beyond Death. :)

    • @jacobking2032
      @jacobking2032 2 роки тому

      But hey, at least we got a throwaway plot in Strixhaven of Liliana trying to find a way to bring him back when ITS WELL KNOWN PEOPLE ON THEROS CAN RETURN FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND ELSPETH DOES EXACTLY THAT AHHH

  • @quantumfrankietheory
    @quantumfrankietheory 5 років тому +8

    Happy I'm not the only one that thinks Vivian was created to die in this fight

  • @lasterman94100
    @lasterman94100 5 років тому +5

    You missed the info about the set countaining 36 planeswalkers, including most of them, by a day or two...

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +1

      (Ryan) That announcement came out 24 hours after I posted this video. I didn't miss it - it missed me.

    • @lasterman94100
      @lasterman94100 5 років тому

      @@tcgplayercom yeah, feelsbadman... Awesome video btw

  • @sonkal-elkent6143
    @sonkal-elkent6143 5 років тому +2

    Planeswalkers I want to see for WotS:
    1. Sorin (I know he's stuck but maybe Ugin gets him out?)
    2. Ugin
    3. Nahiri
    Twist: would love to see Aurelia get a spark!

  • @Speetlebeetle
    @Speetlebeetle 5 років тому +2

    I hope you guys read this spicy take.
    What if Tamiyo is there observing and recording and she gets cornered like you say, but then she uses one of the scrolls like she did (while mind controlled) against Emrakul, which would throw out some immense power and turn the tides in the fight against Bolas in the favor of the Gate Watch.

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +1

      (Ryan) She really doesn't want want to use those scrolls though. But we'll see!

  • @double2254
    @double2254 5 років тому +40

    Odds of my wallet dying from buying all 50,000 different planeswalkers in WotS...
    7/3, it gets obliterated out of existence

    • @bananamancer
      @bananamancer 5 років тому +5

      More like 9/3, it gets consumed by the almighty legendary frog spirit

    • @Vamoss39
      @Vamoss39 5 років тому +3

      Nah. Fblthp is the REAL Planeswalker.

    • @double2254
      @double2254 5 років тому +2

      Christopher Pribble Truest words ever said

    • @MidAtEverything
      @MidAtEverything 5 років тому +1

      @@Vamoss39 I'm not sure never saw him before
      maybe because one of his skill is 0+ make a emblem every time this planeswalker is targeted by enemy spell Phase out fblthp

    • @fidly4
      @fidly4 5 років тому +1

      With a planeswalker in every pack, they probably won't be as expensive as you expect.

  • @CraneoPlaneswalker
    @CraneoPlaneswalker 5 років тому +6

    Everything is going to hell, at the last moment Aminatou comes in and PULVERIZES Nicol Bolas.

  • @joshwi4193
    @joshwi4193 5 років тому

    Huge congrats on the 1 million for the series! Much deserved.
    I really hope Vraska finds a way to survive. She's such a fun character and I love her planeswalker cards.

  • @CarbonDoggie
    @CarbonDoggie 5 років тому

    I'm near 100% sure that Bolas's endgame is to 'undo' The Mending. Which was originally accomplished by the sacrifice of a number of planeswalkers and their sparks. Doing so would likely turn Bolas into a god with a capital G, but the ensuing chaos could likely be worse than the original events. Anywase, it's all speculative at this point.
    Love Magic Arcanum, UA-cam needs more Vorthosian channels.

  • @NerdPhil
    @NerdPhil 5 років тому +8

    I would find it hilarious if Tibalt got a card in the new set and it was really strong!
    It would be a subtle middle finger to the community who railed on the old Tibalt.

    • @SaintCreeps
      @SaintCreeps 5 років тому

      I swear if Tibalt ends up killing Bolas I'm burning my entire collection.

    • @NerdPhil
      @NerdPhil 5 років тому

      @@SaintCreeps Please just give it to me!!! xD

    • @gaorael1055
      @gaorael1055 5 років тому

      Tibalt is love, Tibalt is life

    • @NerdPhil
      @NerdPhil 5 років тому

      @@gaorael1055 He attac
      He protec
      He be fire!!!!!

  • @tim9747
    @tim9747 5 років тому +7

    "Dack, odds of death, zero." - didn't age well

  • @MetPhD
    @MetPhD 5 років тому

    Hope you're really reading every comment: When I tell stories, I hope I look like you! It's just the right balance of serious/silly and body language. Keep on uploading!

  • @mediumpotato648
    @mediumpotato648 4 роки тому +1

    Also, 'the blackblade is one of their best wepons'
    Nicol Bolas: no

  • @griffinpelletier8404
    @griffinpelletier8404 5 років тому +7

    So a bunch of the planeswalkers you gave zero ratings to because they wouldn’t show up on ravnica are now confirmed to show up on ravnica. Looking forward to the follow up video of your new predictions

  • @princeLunais
    @princeLunais 5 років тому +3

    I feel like most likely that Domri Rade is going to be sitting at a 3/3 due to the fact that he's only useful for destruction, and that his free-spirited ways will make him almost useless to control and Nicol Bolas wanting to have maximum control will end up killing him due to that he's unusable in things such as politics, and overall control. He lacks the tact of Dovin, and isn't as resourceful or nearly as powerful as Kaya. He's basically a tool to use on Ravnica, and ONLY Ravnica, afterwards Nicol Bolas will destroy him and most of the Gruul Clan.

  • @jagmasta2049
    @jagmasta2049 5 років тому

    MAKE MORE OF THESE! I love these so much! Some more of the older sets would be fun too! But what ever you do, just keep doing it!

  • @FailOwlProductions
    @FailOwlProductions 5 років тому

    Hey Ryan! I just wanted to say that I love this series! Thank you for all the great stories, and I look forward to many more.

  • @cointoss4825
    @cointoss4825 5 років тому +3

    my heart would not be able to take vraska's death after everything her and jace have gone through together.

    • @mrselfdistrucht5565
      @mrselfdistrucht5565 5 років тому

      It would be a setback, for sure.

    • @deadlyslayer271
      @deadlyslayer271 5 років тому

      She would be brought back later or something even if that happens

  • @fusionenvironmentalsolutions
    @fusionenvironmentalsolutions 5 років тому +6

    Hope Bolas wins again but is hurt enough we don't hear from him for a bit.

  • @philippebard7474
    @philippebard7474 5 років тому +1

    I think Ugin will be watching the epic battle and he will see his brother loosing. so Ugin will planeswalk Bolas and himself to an uninhabited remote planes. That’s when Ugin will confront his brother for the last time before Ugin sacrifices himself to strip Bolas of his spark and leave him trapped. End of war of the spark.
    Next set: turns out that this is where the Thran is living underground and they help Bolas

  • @sherekhangamedev
    @sherekhangamedev 5 років тому

    Thanks, Magic Arcanum is really useful to track the story and know where the pieces are set in place. Cheers from Argentina 🇦🇷.

  • @Valcore
    @Valcore 5 років тому +20

    I didn’t know there where comics?!?!
    Anyways, great job! Love the videos!!

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +1

      (Ryan) Yep! www.comixology.com/Magic-The-Gathering-Chandra-1/digital-comic/713452

  • @HitoSorrelius
    @HitoSorrelius 5 років тому +6

    2:39 "I don't think we'll see him [Angrath] in War of the Spark." Oof. And he's on Bolas' side. Double Oof.

    • @AvalonisHere
      @AvalonisHere 3 роки тому

      He was not, in fact, on Bolas' side.

  • @chasevanepps4420
    @chasevanepps4420 5 років тому +1

    "Push" was perfect, I got it instantly

  • @kylenguyen7371
    @kylenguyen7371 5 років тому

    I just came to say that the X-Men Days of Future Past style thumbnail pic for the planeswalkers is a very nice touch.

  • @potatotato6757
    @potatotato6757 5 років тому +4

    I'm half expecting Teysa to kill Kaya to hold claim over the Orzhov tbh
    Also, I didn't know Liliana was a knee-cromancer

  • @articblitz6338
    @articblitz6338 5 років тому +8

    I think Kaya kills Ugin based off of Kaya’s ghost killing powers.

    • @MehrGills
      @MehrGills 5 років тому +1

      oo spicy

    • @supremeverdict359
      @supremeverdict359 5 років тому

      Then Sharman went to time travel again to prevent this mess? 🤔

  • @KingCWaffa
    @KingCWaffa 5 років тому +1

    All of the bois starting with "A" that you mentioned are in the windowpanes and confirmed to be in the set by wizards as of today.

  • @thomasbukowski2526
    @thomasbukowski2526 5 років тому

    My theory, this is going to be a great mending/infinite crisis style story... the only survivors
    Jace, ajani, vess, Chandra, garuk... and they are launched through a rift in a collapsing plane, giving rise to the second time spiral block, and reprinting the original planeswalkers

  • @d9_1056
    @d9_1056 5 років тому +3

    20 videos?! Where the hell have I been. I've only seen the eldrazi episode. Gotta say. It's my favourite.

    • @NickK1291
      @NickK1291 5 років тому +2

      "First things first, what are the Eldrazi? The answer to that one is...nobody really knows. Thanks for watching! Make sure you like and subscribe.."

  • @samuelgoodliffe4757
    @samuelgoodliffe4757 5 років тому +4

    Enjoyed the video. You should watch The Spice 8 Rack's predictions, I think they were pretty solid.

  • @beauforte7739
    @beauforte7739 5 років тому

    You're making amazing videos! I've always felt in the dark about the broader stories in MtG. Your storytelling and knowledge of the whole story make for a really fun, gripping, and just over all enjoyable watch. Thanks for filling in the gaps, and for being so excited to tell us stories! Definitely going to keep watching

  • @carumsarene
    @carumsarene 5 років тому +1

    Dack I believe was confirmed on Ravnica, idk if involved
    Elspeth was hinted at being a Returned, if she's on Ravnica it's to be with Ajani
    I feel like Kaya might escape to another ghost infested plane (Kamigawa)
    Tamiyo might be around for Kamigawa
    Vivien I agree with. Especially with the whole Grixis Favoring thing. Selesnya getting a recycled mechanic and Green having the record for the most Core Walkers.
    For Bolas, his fate actually determines the future of Magic the Gathering. Whether he lives or dies, the result shows what the future of Magic the Gathering will be focused on.
    Bolas living - Grixis Favoring is normalized. Much like with Kaladesh, Amonkhet, and Ixalan block, we can expect each set to feature new and dynamic cards to be heavily focused in the Grixis color scheme. Selesnya left to heavy recycled mechanics, or cards with far less strength.
    Bolas dying - Grixis favoring ends. Regardless of Planeswalker survivors the game goes back to a Lorwyn/Alara level in terms of set strength and story. Planeswalkers will still be a thing but will no longer focus on them being the main element of a story. Sets will return to balanced cards and mechanics, with new thematics and strategies introduced to all colors of the set equally. We'd even see progress in the development of color schemes that have little love. Four color would be normalized in time, and eventually we'd be allowed to return to planes with a 4-Color dominance. (Like Alara)

  • @CannedCaineghis
    @CannedCaineghis 5 років тому +16

    The idea that Gideon won't die.... Is odd considering the symbolism of the trailer

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 років тому +4

      (Ryan) Yeah. I'm trying not to read too much into the trailer. I want to believe it means Gideon is incomplete, because somebody else on the team dies, but we'll just have to wait and see!

    • @zennistrad
      @zennistrad 5 років тому +3

      @@tcgplayercom It's worth noting that even if he _does_ die, that's not necessarily the end of his story.
      Both Ravnica and Gideon's home plane are unique in that they both have confirmed afterlives, and the boundry between the living and the dead isn't anywhere near as concrete as elsewhere in the Multiverse.
      There's also some hints in the mana cost design of Guilds of Ravnica and Ravnica Allegiance that devotion will return in the next standard set, so make of that what you will.

    • @comradecameron3726
      @comradecameron3726 5 років тому

      Zennistrad2 how exactly are there hints that devotion is returning?

    • @zennistrad
      @zennistrad 5 років тому +1

      @@comradecameron3726 There is an entire cycle of cards that cost "XXYY", with X being one color and Y being the second. In addition, many of the legendary creatures in the new Ravnica sets also have extremely high color intensity in their costs.
      Since most of these cards aren't powerful enough to justify the added difficulty to cast, there's not much reason to design them that way...
      ...except, as it so happens, if they're designed for a standard environment with Devotion.

    • @comradecameron3726
      @comradecameron3726 5 років тому

      Zennistrad2 I don’t think so. Color is as you said a way to restrict cards. I don’t think we are going back to Theros soon. I’d love to see it happen, it would give me more cards for my enchantress deck. But not right now. After all Karn just got the cylex to blow up New Phyrexia. That has to be resolved after the plansewalker war.

  • @vidividivicious
    @vidividivicious 5 років тому +3

    What?! No Urza's head?!

  • @JamesGeiger23
    @JamesGeiger23 5 років тому

    Buddy, did you forget that Ral was appointed as Viceroy by Niv-Mizzet himself? Niv-Mizzet appointed him as the Viceroy so that he could go work on some grandiose experiment.

  • @Ace95616
    @Ace95616 5 років тому +1

    Totally hope that a creation of Saheeli and Huatli show up in a dinosaur voltron meld/flip card in the future. Maybe for a story line involving the invasion of Phyrexia?

    • @Enja_Near
      @Enja_Near 5 років тому

      I dont think huatli and saheeli would go to new phyrexia. That's more for karn/koth/teferi.
      Maybe elspeth if she escapes Erebos' clutches.
      Tezzeret has the slightest chance, if he manages to survive war of the spark (tezz has promised he would one day betray bolas and the war is where he would do that) we could see him continue his quest to take the throne of father of machines and go to to toe with karn. And lose. Because he fights karn.
      Dont fight karn.