Who is Sorin? | Magic Arcanum
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2019
- Sorin is one of the most interesting and misunderstood planeswalkers in all of Magic: The Gathering. Where did he come from? What are his goals and motivations? And what did he do during War of the Spark?
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This is one of the most interesting stories of magic I've heard so far. I really liked it
Its why sorin is like, top 5 most popular magic characters
Innistrad as a whole is super interesting.
I truly think a live action or animated series of Magic the Gathering would be fan-fucking-tastic.
There's a lot of untapped(no pun intended) potential for TV series and movies that could be made from the MtG lore.
Sorry to be offtopic but does someone know of a way to log back into an Instagram account..?
I was stupid forgot the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me
@Byron Kaiden Instablaster :)
My name is sorin.. Haha
"Why do you want to save the multiverse anyway? " - Nahiri
"Because I'm one of the idiots who lives in it! " - Sorin
Literally what I first thought of when he said that
Beat me to it
Sorin: Its where I keep all my stuff!
Lol
Sorin is basically the epitome of "that's a problem for future me to deal with"
*Epitome
That implies that he procrastinates. If you know the lore, you know that the Eldrazi would have to be pulled from the Blind Eternities to be killed, and there physical manifestation in the multiverse is merely a small piece of their true self, so sealing them is far less dangerous than attempting to kill them. That might doom the universe. Making Avacyn was also proactive. Sorin is absolutely the opposite of how you describe him.
@@SeanHrecho And yet the result is all the same. It's less like that true, but it's more like "Ah, if it's solved now, what worse could it become?". And the answer is always a fuckton gallon of blood.
@@minhkhangtran6948 Undrinkable blood at that
@The Troy Spiral Show - BDSM Journey & Education We would screw it up even more with superpower, tbh, with an entirely new way to fuck ourself up. Never underestimate the ability of human to be stupid
I really wanted a Sorin in a wall legendary land in War of the Spark
WOTC GIVE THIS TO US. GIVE IT TO US
That makes all of us.
Sorin, Totally Walled Up 3[W][B]
Legendary Creature - Vampire Wall
Defender, Lifelink, Deathtouch
T: Summon one 1/1 Black and White Vampire Token.
Other Vampires cannot attack or use their abilities because they are too busy trying to dig out Sorin.
0/12
@@bartoszpiorkowski8763 "Vampire Token with Defender"
@@bartoszpiorkowski8763 Maybe give him an effect where he starts with a number of counters. If you control at least one vampire (other than Sorin, Totally Walled Up), you remove one counter at the beginning of upkeep. When all counters are removed, Sorin, Totally Walled Up loses defender, and his power and toughness become 6/6. Or something.
There's a key thing you missed. When Sorin trapped Nahiri during their initial battle, it was to prevent Avacyn from killing her, as she sensed that Sorin was in danger and immediately went after his attacker. Yes, it was a stupid and rushed decision, but not one out of nowhere.
"...Sorin always starts with good intentions, but his methods could use some peer review."
Never chuckled this loud before.
I'm sure if he heard that, he'd respond with something like, "Sorin Markov has no peers."
Sorin a comfirmed member of High School Musical.
🎵We're Sorin, flying and deathtouch🎵
1choas SORIN, FLYING, THERES NOT A THREAT ON INNISTRAD I CANT BEAT. NOW ITS DYIN CAUSE OF NAHIRI
I'm a little sad you didn't go more over his relationship woth Avacyn. I honestly felt like he was very emotionally distraught at her unmaking.
Anguished Unmaking has some of the saddest flavor text in all of Magic. Having to kill Avacyn was like having to kill his own kid.
@@bamit11 Not only did he have to kill his own "child", but it also shows that he failed to protect not only Zendikar from the Eldrazi, but also his very own home. It was the truest culmination of him being short-sighted and failing because of it.
Avacyn: "I am your creation. You are responsible for everything I am capable of. I was made for a purpose, and your purpose was impure. Sorin Markov, I condemn you as the greatest evil of this world."
Woah was in the SOI story? That rocks
@@onewholeegg it was SOI chapter 12, will never forget it
Avacyn's end in SOI still, at times, really gets to me. Anguished Unmaking indeed.
Nahiri's meeting with Avacyn in the Helvault really highlights how tragic the angel's story is: "Dark eyes flashed with fury-fury Sorin had instilled. He had created her in his own image, twisted her from the beginning. Made her hateful. Made her his. Nahiri shuddered.
Another being grievously wronged by Sorin Markov, one with no chance of vengeance or redress. No chance of freedom. A porcelain doll, to replace the student he had lost."
Pato Feróz what a ridiculous statement.
To the question "Is Sorin good or evil" I would give the answer "No".
of course Sorin is a grey character, he is black And white.
Sorin is Michael Jackson
@@RoseRosenberg Beat it!
Damn rose, you burned it
I laughed more at this joke than I should
His skin is grey as well.
From what I remember, Innistrad block lore explained that to "sire" a new vampire, they would bite a human and drain only a little blood, instead of actually feeding on them (which was basically always fatal). The human would become infected by vampirism and die within a day, but if they bit the vampire BACK during that time, they would stabilize into a full-fledged vampire themselves.
Zendikar vampires were Eldrazi Spawn that got cut off when the titans were imprisoned, and evolved into sentient beings themselves, with the Eldrazi drive to consume everything turned into vampirism. Possibly this was affected by the fact that Sorin's part in imprisoning the titans was using his blood magic to more or less put Ulamog, Emrakul, and Kozilek to sleep so they didn't resist the hedron field being put into place.
So one thing you forgot to mention is that Avacyn's(and the rest of the angels') madness was brought on by the cryotoliths warping the leylines. As creatures of pure mana, the change in the plane's mana patterns changed their behavior significantly. Kind of a tangent but you mentioned both Avacyn's madness and the cryotoliths so I thought it was a bit of an important details to have missed
(Ryan) We can always count on our friends in the comments to share details we missed :-)
And of course the most important battle with Tibalt !
@@Rol4nnd lmaoooo
"Why would you want to save the Multiverse?"
"Because I'm one of the idiots who lives in it!"
-Not Starlord
Sorin is actually a good example of a Byronic Hero. He definitely wants to do good even if for somewhat selfish reasons but his own flaws, such as his arrogance and inability to admit his own faults, keep getting in the way in a way that screws him over majorly in the end. The fact that he’s native to a plane based on gothic literature definitely helps too.
As I recall, sorin was also the one who taught nahiri how to be a planeswalker, and was essentially his adopted daughter.
Really? That’s cool if it’s true.
Can anyone confirm this?
I think "daughter" is a little strong, but "protégé" definitely.
I agree seth b cause if I remember the story( I may have to read again) she seemed to have feelings for him.
I like the logic why he saved the universe. its basically "I dont save my own house to benefit the spiders that live in its corners, but because its my house."
Five bucks? I give you five cents. Hey, I wanna thank Nicole and you for doing this series abut Magic characters and the lore. Now that the story kind of dissapears behind a pay wall I hope you keep us updated. Thanks again, Ryan. You are awesome!
Exactly this, I would rather watch a 25 minute video any day
@TCGplayer:
He helped trapped the Eldrazi on Zendikar.
He created the Archangel Avacyn.
He has a sword called the Parasite Blade.
He Beat Up Tibalt.
He fought Nahiri but lost to a wall.
He is the most interesting Vampire in the Multiverse.
Stay thirsty my friends.
My favorite Sorin quote is from Zendikar's "Day of Judgment" flavor text:
"I have seen planes leveled and all life rendered to dust. It brought no pleasure, even to a heart as dark as mine."
This shows that he's clearly a black-aligned character, but he isn't a stoic nihilist.
So he's tough guy
Drinking people's blood guy,
Sealing friends in vault guy,
Chilling in the stone guy.
He's a vampire,
Hating on his bloodline,
Watching his own world die,
Killing Avacyn guy.
Is he baaaaaaaad guuuuuuy?
Duh
Sometimes not all the time really depends on how many copies you have
It's just a matter of perspective
Sorin’s a favorite planeswalker of mine. Really loved the video. Can we see an Elspeth video in the future?
Best way to start a Friday? With Ryan (and Nicole) ofc!
so true
OK here's my thoughts on my favourite planeswalker.
In the conclusion of Emn and the beginning of Sorin's Wall Era Olivia stole the Parasite Blade, Sorin's blood-drinking sword, from him.
By War of the Spark, not only is he free of the wall, but he's got the Parasite Blade back.
This would indicate it wasn't like the Interplanar Beacon pulled him out of the wall and dumped him straight onto Ravnica, the implication is that Sorin freed himself or someone else freed him and during the time between EMN and WAR he regained the Parasite Blade from Olivia.
You can discuss how much Nahiri, Sorin, Avacyn and Innistrad's people have all suffered as a result of the rift between the two, but I have no doubt Olivia Voldaren has suffered more.
I don't want to imagine which agonies Sorin inflicted upon Olivia as revenge for abandoning him and taking the Parasite Blade. She probably wished Emrakul could have corrupted her.
Also vis a vis Sorin's morality: I think he wants to be heroic in his own way (doing the best he can for the people he cares about) but he really doesn't know how and has no interest in going out of his way to learn how. He's very much the dark echo of Gideon: both of them had traumatic experiences involving bizarre and ancient magic that lit up their sparks and both of them see themselves as protectors out of necessity, but Gideon's more heroic because he's spent time around people who recognise that heroism and have illustrated to him how important it is to be selfless. Sorin's never had anyone to back him up, to thank him or tell him when he's gone too far so he doesn't recognise that to be the best protector he can be he has to be willing to sacrifice his own interests for the greater good. Maybe if he had friends beyond a professional relationship with Ugin and Nahiri he'd grow to care enough about them that he'd be willing to sacrifice things for them and learn to be a proper hero that way.
Waking up, having a cup of coffee, and hearing Ryan talk about Sorin for twenty minutes is a nice way to start the day.
You say his home is under the control of Olivia (20:40). In the story, she relieved him of the parasite blade and proclaimed herself as the new Lord of Innistrad. In the artwork for Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord, he once again has his famed Parasite blade.
Olivia is no longer in control of Innistrad. The mighty Voldaran's came down with a sudden and fatal case of being-in-the-way-of-a-millennia-old-vampire.
(Ryan) Maybe. But until that is confirmed by another source, we can just as easily assume the artist for Sorin's card in War of the Spark wasn't told about the significance of that sword, and just drew him with it, unaware that it wasn't in his possession any longer.
@@tcgplayercom Or, as you mention as a possibility in later videos, this foreshadows his possible marriage to Olivia!!!
Wait, you have the Markov family photo album? And you DIDN'T share the embarrassing baby photos??
Skullgrin Sorin destroyer those along with creating avacyn
This was fascinating. I think he really embodies 'One often meets his fate on the road he takes to avoid it.' I really hope we get more characters like him!
A very important detail that is missing here is that Nahiri assumes Zandikar to be destroyed by the eldrazi in her absence ( her being sealed away and all) and with the knowledge that sorin would not help. Being eternal she lived many life times, watched other loved ones age and die without her. Her only company and constant friend was zandikar itself. She blames sorin for dooming zandikar and in the hell vault voes to bring the same fate to innistrade, the only thing sorin has ever loved.
18:42 I like how Chosen of Markov immediately becomes a dominatrix after turning into a vampire.
I thought that was funny too. They don't make cards as provacative anymore. Probably somebody complained to Hasbro or something like that.
Suggestions for future topics:
Who is Karn? (Karn found the Golgothian Sylex during the Dominaria storyline, so there may be a return to New Phyrexia in the future?)
This leads to:
Who are the Preators? and
What happened on New Phyrexia?
Phyrexian mana is one of my favorite mechanics in terms of both simplicity and elegance (even though it is so, so broken) and the Pretty Deece video on it is one of my favorites, so make it happen!
I think they should have made phyrexian mana 3 life instead of 2. They should have also tried to implement two instances of phyrexian mana into more cards
Don’t forget they left Venser’s dead butt at new Phyrexia
*newer Phyrexia.
Since you love phyrexian mana how do you feel about krrik? Stoked to brew?
There is a bit of inconsistency in the Dominarian storyline. The Golgothian Sylex was canonically destroyed, so it's not entirely certain the one Karn found was it.
I mean, his original planeswalker card is legendary in commander for that second ability "target player's life total becomes ten". Shuts down any life gain and puts them in stabby range.
Who won?
Who's next?
You decide!
In a way, Sorin is very similar to Urza. Both are powerful planeswalkers who will stop at nothing to protect their home plane.
Oh thank God you are still doing Magic Arcanum!
Who is sorin?
"a WEEB"
- Spice 8 Rack
White EntwinEd with Black?
Yes
I mean it fits, he just wants to be left alone and play with his anime waifu figurine Avacyn.
@@CptManboobs to the point of ignoring Nahiri 100% LOLOLOL
Legend says he created Avacyn out of his own anime body pillow.
I wish that Magic Arcanum was still a thing, it was by far the best part of this channel.
Spoiler:
"His battle with Nahiri, which, hmm, we will get to."
When you realize their fight was orchestrated off screen and they settled their differences *off screen*
Single combat was such a cool looking card too.
Definitely think Sorin is like a Chaotic Neutral type of planeswalker…. still one of my favs!
Always love these videos! Sorin is such an interesting character! 😄
Nahiri also returned to Zendikar after escaping the Helvault to find the whole plane devastated by the released eldrazi, that led to her deciding to make Sorin’s home suffer as hers had from his lack of help.
She cares for Zendikar the way Sorin cares for Innistrad, and in her mind he was indirectly responsible for her homes destruction through his neglect. Something she could not forgive.
Wow! Great retelling of this story. So detailed & in depth! Thank you!
Today is my birthday and sorin is my favourite planeswalker, thank you for the amazing present guys :)
(Ryan) You're welcome, and Happy Birthday!
Yooo it's my bday too happy birthday
I play morally neutral characters in D&D, and "I live there," is a valid motivator.
Thanks for making this video, i am so happy right now :3
Superb explanation, a very clear and neat video, thank you for your amazing work, keep it up
Please make a video on the New Phyrexian Praetors. I find their story and their core differences due to color influence really interesting.
Yes!! I love your lore videos, They're my favorites from all the videos uploaded to the channel, please keep doing them and more often if possible!
Was waiting for this one for awhile :D
As always, a pleasure to watch. Thumbs up for Nicoles questions!
Really loving this series detailing some of the main players in the current lore. Looking forward to more.
More videos like these for the old generation planeswalkers would be great! This was a lot of fun.
As someone who's been playing vampires for a while.... these last few sets have made me BEYOND happy lmao
Still my favorite planeswalker! Thanks for the deep dive into his entire story!
If it wasn't for your channel and the stories and lore you provide, I don't think I would have ever been this involved in the MTG gameplay. I love having the knowledge behind the cards amd being able to create deck synergies because of it
Congrats on 100,000 subs!!
I just stumbled across your videos. I love the Magic Lore, its one of my favorite parts. I would love to see more videos on the Planeswalkers, please record some more.
Tcg player doesnt work with them anymore so go to the Magic Arcanum channell for more.
This is very relaxing, perfect for biking or trying to fall asleep, very informative but still fun, this is my go-to informational channel
He has a new channel tcg player kicked his show off so now its the Magic Arcanum channel.
These are always a treat
15 Seconds in and man, I am so freaking happy to have this video out!!!
Awesome video congrats on 100k subs :)
love this video type. and that you show the cards! more story's to come i hope
0:18 - WHE LOVE YOU MAN!!!
One of the best content here on UA-cam, well, in my opinion of course
Thanks for the Sorin lore
Loved the video, this was the character I was expecting the most for you to make a video like this, and I really liked the last part.
May be you should have talked a little more about the feelings of Sorin towards his "child", Avacyn, he really loved her and it broke him down ending her life. He even felt that watching Emrakul getting close to destroy Thraben "hurt worse than the lithomancer's stone teeth that ground their way through his insides" (quoting "Campaign of Vengeance" from magic web story) 'cause it was the place where he created her.
Apart from that, awesome video.
Thanks this was awesome appreciate it. I subbed and found you after the game went to your head.😋
Loved the vid! Sorin one of my favourites entities from MTG story
Your videos always inspire me to create more. Thanks
In regards to the Sorin vs. Nahiri debate I'm on team "They should kiss"
Unfortunately, I think that ship has pasted...
... over a waterfall and was smashed on the rocks on the bottom.
@@newflesh666 lol, no. funnily enough this was the one ship forsaken didn't absolutely murder, as far as I know neither of them appear
Who isn’t
Ah hahahaha! Just make-out and make up.
That's a story for grand kids! 😂😂😂
I would love to hear something about Elspeth in another Episode! Great video as always :)
Sorin is my favourite planeswalker so this is definetly my favourite video and i learned the most!:)
"who's in the right here?" idk Ugin seems chill
I immediately laughed at your "pain in the neck" pun haha. Sorin was the first Planeswalker that I ever boosted.
Love story time. You do an awesome job. Thank you
💢the Q&A end segment is fantastic! Definitely keep this part in to help understand more about the lore and characters. I’d like to see a segment of your possible predictions on where the lore and story will go too. Call it future predictions. Tony
Thanks for the upload ryaaaan!! XD sorin is tied for my fave planeswalker with gideon “looking forward to the gids vid btw”
Bring these back!
Ryan and Nicole! I would really love to hear about pre and post "mending" and better understand what the Planeswalkers were, and what they are now. I feel like a lot of the stories you have told touch on or around this, and I would like to know as much as possible. Thank you for all the great content!!
I would go ahead and say Nahiri’s *main* beef would be the 100s of years of imprisonment. I’m sure she was pissed about him not replying to her DMs too, but like you said, at least that worked out ok for her if not perfectly.
Ugin: “What has the multiverse ever done for you? Why would you wanna save it?”
Sorin: “Because I'm one of the idiots who lives in it!”
Magic's lore is so rich and captivating. It's hard to keep this consistently when they're constantly making new worlds to add to the universe.
I’m not sure how you guys recorded this but as an audio engineer I can tell you that your voice is recorded extremely well. The frequency range is incredible I need to see where the microphone is placed! How is this so silky smooth with so much clarity and crispness!? I’m not even paying attention to the story, I’m too distracted by the bass in your voice. Damn dude.
Love Sorin. One of my top 3 favorite walkers.
Lave your presentation style! Great video!
Sorin - Hot Topic’s favorite patron.
Cool Sorin video, Ryan and Nicole. These are great! Keep em coming. With Commander 2019 out, maybe you can make a Weatherlight video? I saw some characters from that crew in the new cards.
26 mins of Storytime? A Dream came true!
As someone who is not to familiar with mtg and starting to get into it this was a cool easy introduction to the first plainswaker I've gotten.
I LOVED him as the Lord of Innistrad. His emblem was always impactful.
Was so happy to see him in WotS and M20.
Sorin is by far my favorite planeswalker. Extremely powerful, ancient beyond comprehension, ruthlessly driven, and deeply flawed. He's trying his damned best, but has a suitably murky track record for either mucking things up or fixing a problem.
You didn’t talk about the parasite blade or the fact that Olivia Voldaren took it from Sorin when she betrayed him, yet his vengeful bloodlord card in War of the spark clearly shows that he got it back somehow.
Sorin didn’t unmake Avacyn because he wanted troops. He first tried to heal her.
YESSSS A NEW VIDEO!
Love this series
I do hope Sorin kept his spark and shows up again soon. He's my favorite antihero.
Great video!
love these!!!
My favorite Planeswalker - very nice
STORY TIME!!!!! I really love these videos.
The war of the spark sorin is one of my favourite cards. It was one of my first rares and I have a brawl deck of it.
Just found this playlist today and I devoured it! Great job! I've been looking for a series like this :D Could you tell the origin story of Garruk and or Jace? You said in the Chandra video that the earlier stories of her arn't great. I read the original Mirrodin Novels back in the day and found them highly entertaining so clearly the older stories have some value right? :D