I think that instead of changing new slivers to say "Slivers you control" they should have added a Sliver Hivemind that has the ability "Cards that grant abilities to all Slivers instead only grant abilities to Slivers controlled by that card's controller." That would maintain the lore much better, making slivers all share abilities until a Hivemind shows up to organize them.
Personally I'm happy for the change, and how they did it. Makes the mirror match less miserable, and that "only those you control" sliver would be terrible outside of said mirror.
@@keitarosempai9594 I kinda thought the self-thinking, and by extension, the "slivers you control" were side-effects of slivers evolving to not be reliant on a queen. But looking at slivers like Syphon sliver, your "mutated humanoids" theory makes sense.
Morales Sánchez Oscar Elías I know! Modern Horizons, was supposed to be a complicated set so why not all slivers? Also that sliver design was a generic abomination.
(Ryan) In my first episode of Magic Arcanum, I said I was doing this to help people - mostly to help them become better players or learn the story behind the cards, but at the end of the day I don't want to see any member of the Magic community suffering. So, if you need to talk or just want to vent about things that are bothering you, you can always drop me a message at magic.arcanum@tcgplayer.com and I'll do what I can to help you out.
My sliver commander deck has all the legendary slivers in it, including legion and queen who have become insanely hard to get. Good thing I decided to make that deck when they where still affordable.
For me, Slivers are easily the most iconic Creature MTG has, and I honestly wish WOTC would transfer them to D&D. Their design is striking, their hordes numerous, and their threat...is overwhelming. I never owned many MTG cards growing up, but the few Sliver cards I had from a rando deck at a thrift store made an impression on me that will never truly go away. I didn't even know how to play, I just read flavor text about their menace, and saw the Scythe-like single arm they had, and it sent all the right signals to my brain.
I see the whole "Slivers you control" thing as maybe a not so perfect union of the hive. Now the slivers have splintered into multiple hives like ant colonies. So now the multiverse can breathe a slight sigh of relief now that slivers could find themselves fighting each other as well as anyone who comes into their territory.
A planeswalker sliver would mean all slivers become planeswalkers and destroy all of the multiverse with there infinire hord sents they would no longer tide to one plane to grow.lol
@@Lord_Xonaz they could cram up a scientist from riptide who ignited together with the sliver that killed him, morphing them into some hybrid. And he's like in pain all the time because he has no connection to the hive and searches for a way to fix that.
I've always adored slivers from afar. I started with m14, so I only have a small handful of sliver cards, but I've wanted to make a deck with them for years. They're just really cool and unique.
Fellow Sliver player here. Be prepared to get targeted no matter what just like in lore people have a knee jerk reaction to Slivers the poor creatures never get a break despite being the most fun tribe to play when no one targets you
Casts "Silk hat Sliver" All slivers wear a silk hat (Scientist A: Well look at this creature. It really has some taste in clothing. Scientist B: More taste than you )
"Slivers have been been a highly requested topic." Me, first time seeing a sliver: "What the hell is that Japanese tentacle monster thing?" Me, having embraced slivers as my lord and savior: "Why the hell do people want to know about those Japanese tentacle monster things?"
I know the mothership had a little Shandalar story for the M2014/2015 slivers. I think it's assumed that the Hivelord is a lone sliver that got blasted to the roaming plane either during the Rathi Overlay, the birth/death of Karona or the Time Spiral debacle and it essentially evolved invulnerability to ensure survival of its progeny.
@@gobomania It's worth noting, because it hasn't been explored yet, but slivers have had contact with Glistening Oil, repeatedly. Inspiration for mutation.
About the “you control” on the last 2 sets of slivers happened after a Wizards doubles tournament for the set where 1st place took all there game 2-0 (23 games) do to them both running slivers (including a total of 8 copies of Virulent Sliver where having 3 where on the field slivers had poisonous 1 X3). RND saw this and changed it for future release
Yikes. I don’t wanna sound rude but I was actually interested in reading the information you intended to convey, but found it somewhat difficult to read your post. Not sure if it’s because “internet,” or English is a second, third, etc language. I think it’s moreso the lack of punctuation.
@@miot22 Basically both players ran 4 of Viruliant sliver, which has and gives slivers poisonous 1. So three on the field meant that you have poisonous 1x3. So easy poison counter win.
Flying is easy in a Sliver deck, especially Commander. My main problem is board-wipes, which I cover with plenty of blue spells, included my favorite: Jaded Response. A U one-drop that counters any Sorcery (which most board-wipes are). And if you have it so Slivers tap for Mana (I have many ways in my deck to do this), that's n'ary a problem. Keep plenty of blue-control, and your Slivers are impossible to destroy, especially when your Commander fetches Slivers for 3. Guess what? You get to make all of your Slivers fly for a CMC of 4 on your turn, AT ANY TIME!
Qrazy Quarian Oh I know it’s easy to get, I was just too lazy to get more flying slivers than the pulmonic sliver I already had in the deck. I used to have it as a commander deck, but later converted it back to a normal deck.
Commander: Sliver Overlord. Keys: Conspiracy. Arcane Adaptation. Hivestone. Xenograft. Training Grounds. Also Ameboid Changeling [because I'll make YOUR creatures into slivers, then steal them]. Rest of 99: legendary creatures and a few key slivers [diffusion, manaweft, gemhide for example]. You're then playing a legendary sliver deck with access to any legendary card that fits whatever play style you want.
just use the hivestone in an eldrazi deck. Just think of all the janky hybrid shenanigans with colorless cmc and all of your creatures tapping for mana thanks to manaweft/gemhide
My personal theory is that the Slivers are a part of some kind of planar Von Neumann probe. The slivers spread out, form mutations and adapt to the host plane, and then use their psionic link to pass these mutations and information onto each other. Once a Hive Queen is formed, it acts as a kind of central server and database for the sliver network, guiding the lesser slivers and storing any data recovered. My headcanon is that the sliver queens are still transmitting any gathered data to their creator, maybe a planeswalker from some advanced civilization.
As someone who was heavily invested in the in the odyssey storyline, seeing it focused on slivers is like watching a nature documentary set during world War 2. Like "and then a bunch of boats came and upset the sea life around Normandy"
8:43 I always thought that the HiveStone was Computer Server for the hive mind. Like an artificial Queen for the hive. "Then Why not have it be an robot creature?" Well, it's probably easier to work on if it's not a robot walking around and trying attack you. Safer to have it be a computer tower.
Lore thought: As you explained the slivers have several different leaders over the year (Queen, Overlord, Hivelord, etc.) so the change from all slivers (from when they were just under one leader, the Queen) to now only slivers you control makes some sense. There are now (possibly) factions within the slivers and they are only willing to grant their powers to others of their faction instead of giving their power to all of their race. Just a thought that might reconcile the lore and the change in mechanics.
It’s Nicole!!! I like the M14 art switch (but glad they eventually switched back!). It’s a nice way to complete the nod to the Xenomorph / Predator movie inspirations.
I still love karn's approach, compelling to a mother's compassion for her children. Sees tcg heart: happiness noise D8 comment edit took my heart! Sad noise
I'm surprised there's been no mention of the significance of the name "Sliver." It makes it sound like they're fragments of what was once a unified whole, which would explain the hive mind and ability sharing a little more.
The Weatherlight Saga was the first time I had my own money to buy magic. Silver's grabbed my attention immediately, and are way more interesting to me than anything else from that cycle. 20 years later when I started playing magic again they were my first commander deck. The esoteric storytelling of the early sets really inspired me. Good times
3 years later and we're getting new sliver(s?) with Gravemother Sliver as a new Commander. Makes me wonder what other slivers they are going to be adding.
best magic commander deck idea ever: all colors and colorless sliver and eldrazi deck!!! This is great! also eldrazi dinosaur creature types!!! That would be awesome!
I wanna say the core sets were showing us that they came from Shandalar. On the cards Hive Stirrings, and Sliver Hive, you can see slivers in the old style and the flavor text on Hive Stirrings suggests that that's what a young sliver looks like. Shandalar slivers had more time to evolve than Rathi/Dominarian slivers and are therefore able to alter their bodies to meet their needs. Also note how Hivelord also resembles the old slivers
stigma of the rose I guess Morophon strikes me as a “build a tribe without a dedicated commander” and slivers have gotten THE most love as a tribe in regards to commander. 6 capable legends, more than any other tribe, and you choose the changeling? I mean, you do you, just seems odd.
Overlord is still the best option because you can just search for morophon and get the other legendaries free and paired with a fist of suns, every sliver is free
Love Slivers. Slow decks yes but after a few turns they start getting difficult to deal with. And then you bring in the legendary slivers or whatever the one that gives hexproof(can't remember)
I'd very much like to see your take on Phyrexians. Since we're having Yawgmoth as a legendary creature in Modern Horizons, that might be a perfect opportunity to get to it!
So fun fact, Ryan and friends, if you love slivers you might appreciate this. I am running a Ravnica campaign where my players realize that Slivers are a Simic creation (the perfect adaptable being) the party will fight the First Sliver as seen in MH and eventually an Izzet NPC I have will teleport them through space and time to the unknown plan that Volrath first discovered them. I’m making a custom mini for the First sliver right now and I’d be happy to share it with you all once it’s done. Love these videos, keep up the great work!
I still remember when these came out. It was the most amazing and brutal deck at the time. Still prefer the old look but I do love that the new slivers only effect my own critters.
You break my heart with this episode my sliver deck was one to be feared and was unbeaten it even totally destroyed other sliver decks couldn't even hold a flame to it till I lost it to a stupid rainstorm!!!! Rest in peace my precious slivers.
I was under the impression the slivers were gaining sentience, hence the humanoid shape they took on in m14, and the flavor text of sliver legion. I was thinking one of them would develop the spark and become their leader eventually. Not a queen, but just a leader.
Thanks Amy! Thanks Nicole! Thanks Ryan! Thanks Keith! Yea, EDH Slivers are spoiled for choice for Commanders but the only one that makes sense is Overlord. If you can get that out you can get the other ones out because he searches out the other ones, it gives my terrible, inconsistent EDH deck much needed consistency. So the others would go into the library in my opinion, minus Queen she just seems like a collector’s piece at best. They’re super complex, especially considering that some of their abilities stack if there’s a duplicate sliver on the field Slivers are great, until your opponent starts calling you names lol
I remember when Slivers first came out in Tempest... They were the terror of our kitchen table playgroup - there was always a guy that always had an early Crystalline Sliver that made it impossible for us to interact (we had no control player with mass removal)
Can you do a video on the story of the Time Spiral block? I've always tried to understand the story, but I'm just not able to figure everything out, mainly because I don't know much Dominaria lore in general.
Back in the mid-2000s when I was still first getting into Magic, myself and a couple friends played a multiplayer game where both of my friends were playing Slivers, and there was an amazing punt at the end of the game where a friend gave all of the slivers on the board Shadow to get through my blockers... Leaving me at 1 Life and leaving *them* with no blockers. I combo'd off and turned the game around the very next turn with my burn deck and knock them both out in one attack. Slivers are wild.
Slivers are the best creature type hands down And the fact that you are spreading their message has got me thinking Have you joined the hive anytime soon? We welcome you!
(Ryan) If anything, my Naban, Dean of Iteration Commander deck puts me firmly on Team Wizards, which seem to be the mortal enemies of slivers at this point lol
Thanks for this I had never delved into Sliver lore, was fascinated by them when I got back into the game for Tempest cycle way back when. That sliver commander on Historic Brawl is a real overplayed nightmare.
One of the best things about being a 7 year old MTG player was being absolutely shellshock and mesmerized by the art. From the phyrexians with no faces and tubes coming out of everywhere to, well, slivers. So whatever they do, they better not mess with the 1 claw 2 tail nensensical perfection that is the sliver anatomy.
I love slivers in EDH. Even though we all know about them and they get printed every few years, every time I pull out the Overlord and put it on the table, it’s oohs and awws and draws a few people.
I think that making your army into slivers would help in keeping the slivers under control because any way the slivers would buff eachother would also buff you, so that would mean that you would have the same abilities as them plus whatever you have on your own. Either that or it gives you the ability to change the thoughts of the hivemind.
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@@seasnek7024 they definitely share a lot of similarities plus there is Ghostflame Sliver that makes all Slivers colorless and both are a all consuming force
Theory time: The First Sliver isn't actually the first sliver, just the first to escape from the Riptide Project. Questionable evidence can be found in the flavor text of one of the blue slivers from that set where it mentioned the first sliver escapes by copying the form of a junior researcher.
@@pphyjynx8217 That means nothing really. Convoke was the Selesnya mechanic but there's been a lot of things printed with Convoke with no ties to Ravnica. Modern Horizons just used any cool mechanics they wanted on any card and repurposed them. While there's a sliver with Unearth (another Alara mechanic), there is also one with Outlast (a Khans mechanic).
This is exactly the type of video, that someone who never played MTG will get recommended by the UA-cam algorithm at 3am and still watch til the end :)
Hivestone's flavor text literally says that those who don't know how to use it are controlled by the slivers instead of vice versa when people do know how it's used
I once had Sliver Overlord as a Commander for a 5-color Commander deck. (using the Premium Sliver 60-card deck as a base) he combos beautifully with Amoeboid Changeling. I sold the deck for $70
I love bringing my modern Slivers deck to the table. It doesn't always win, but it gives the meta chasers a moment or two of panic when it gets loose. :D
Couldn't ignore the fact that the Cloudshredder Sliver art (12:53) resembles a lot to the Skyknight Legionnaire back in the first Ravnica expantion. Almost identical
This mirrored effect change happened with hearthstone’s version of slivers too. Murlocs also used to have symmetrical effects but they changed them to only effect murlocs you control. So if both devs ran into the same problem and used the same solution, then it’s probably for the best. Would be interesting if anyone knows any other card games that made the same change
Your videos are awesome and I love watching all of the ones I have been able to so far. I will eventually get to see them all and be 100% caught up lol, that could take a while though. I'm so glad that you did a video covering these interesting creatures and also really enjoy how you break things down as well as disclaim that some things may be off for those people that aren't familiar with the lore in MTG before and now. Can't wait for the next episodes!
I really love the time, research, and effort you guys put into your videos, they're awesome! Also, please more Nicole! It's nice to have a small comic relief section in the video, it was really fun. Keep it up!
I think that instead of changing new slivers to say "Slivers you control" they should have added a Sliver Hivemind that has the ability "Cards that grant abilities to all Slivers instead only grant abilities to Slivers controlled by that card's controller." That would maintain the lore much better, making slivers all share abilities until a Hivemind shows up to organize them.
Personally I'm happy for the change, and how they did it. Makes the mirror match less miserable, and that "only those you control" sliver would be terrible outside of said mirror.
@@baconsir1159 but the flavor
@@baconsir1159 well I think if the card had some other upside it would be good
Imagine if Emrikul started controlling the slivers and made eldrazi sliver horrors that could travel the multiverse
What a terrifying thought
Don’t give them ideas!
"Sliver creatures you control have Annihilator 1"
@@rustyanvile STAHP
Emrakul's Chosen: 1/1 "All slivers you control gain annihilator 1," and yes, it stacks.
@@DominusSphinx better yet, all slivers get annihilator 1
So it's just mass chaos
This video gives all your Slivers the same sick 'stache that Ryan's rocking.
Can we get re-edit with mustaches photoshopped onto the slivers?
So.... A new set coming out with slivers?
So the Riptide Chronologist got transformed into a Sliver?
Seems legit lore.
Stache Sliver:
Stache Sliver has a Sick Stache
All Slivers now have Sick Staches
... and the same bald head.
WotC needs to come out and put in canon that the "Slivers" from M14 were humanoids mutated due to prolonged exposure to Hivestones.
That sounds so right dude, also explains the self-thinking over hive one
That would actually fix that good thinking. Actually now that I think about it the hive stone as a lot of similarities to the obelisk from dead space
Also put out an explanation for “The First Sliver” there wasn’t even any flavor text....
@@keitarosempai9594 I kinda thought the self-thinking, and by extension, the "slivers you control" were side-effects of slivers evolving to not be reliant on a queen.
But looking at slivers like Syphon sliver, your "mutated humanoids" theory makes sense.
Truth is, those slivers in m14 and m15 are on the plane of shandalaar not the original plane we first saw slivers.
Totally agree with Ryan's educated opinion on M14 slivers.
Morales Sánchez Oscar Elías I know! Modern Horizons, was supposed to be a complicated set so why not all slivers?
Also that sliver design was a generic abomination.
My first set was M14 so I kinda dig that art direction
Mattias Isaksson You are young and weak. You will learn to love old Slivers, few thing were as fun and chaotic as a Sliver mirror.
@@Bl4eberry mines too. agree
at first i thought the same but later i liked the idea that the slivers do a evolution
Oh well that's cool if I become a Sliver then all other slivers can get my depression and anxiety modifiers as well.
That was exactly my thinkng as well. Maybe I can get all their happiness in exchange and we are all happy and depressed simultainously
(Ryan) In my first episode of Magic Arcanum, I said I was doing this to help people - mostly to help them become better players or learn the story behind the cards, but at the end of the day I don't want to see any member of the Magic community suffering. So, if you need to talk or just want to vent about things that are bothering you, you can always drop me a message at magic.arcanum@tcgplayer.com and I'll do what I can to help you out.
@@tcgplayercom hey you're a cool dude
@@tcgplayercom You're awesome Ryan, I really appreciate it. Srsly keep up these awesome Story Times, it brings smiles :)
@@tcgplayercom super kind of you. Definitely earned a fan here.
Always loved the Sliver Overlord’s flavor text
*”The end of evolution”*
My sliver commander deck has all the legendary slivers in it, including legion and queen who have become insanely hard to get. Good thing I decided to make that deck when they where still affordable.
For me, Slivers are easily the most iconic Creature MTG has, and I honestly wish WOTC would transfer them to D&D. Their design is striking, their hordes numerous, and their threat...is overwhelming. I never owned many MTG cards growing up, but the few Sliver cards I had from a rando deck at a thrift store made an impression on me that will never truly go away. I didn't even know how to play, I just read flavor text about their menace, and saw the Scythe-like single arm they had, and it sent all the right signals to my brain.
I see the whole "Slivers you control" thing as maybe a not so perfect union of the hive. Now the slivers have splintered into multiple hives like ant colonies. So now the multiverse can breathe a slight sigh of relief now that slivers could find themselves fighting each other as well as anyone who comes into their territory.
Slivers will next return in Standard as planeswalkers who look suspiciously like the Gatewatch...
Now I want sliver plainswalkers
A planeswalker sliver would mean all slivers become planeswalkers and destroy all of the multiverse with there infinire hord sents they would no longer tide to one plane to grow.lol
@@Lord_Xonaz they could cram up a scientist from riptide who ignited together with the sliver that killed him, morphing them into some hybrid. And he's like in pain all the time because he has no connection to the hive and searches for a way to fix that.
@@KS-ui4hi
Plainswalker Sliver 2W
Creature: sliver
All slivers have plainswalk
2/2
I've always adored slivers from afar. I started with m14, so I only have a small handful of sliver cards, but I've wanted to make a deck with them for years. They're just really cool and unique.
Slivers always get me interested again lol I just love playing tribal.
Fellow Sliver player here. Be prepared to get targeted no matter what just like in lore people have a knee jerk reaction to Slivers the poor creatures never get a break despite being the most fun tribe to play when no one targets you
All Slivers have "Mustache".
(This creature has an impressive mustache)
Casts "Silk hat Sliver" All slivers wear a silk hat (Scientist A: Well look at this creature. It really has some taste in clothing. Scientist B: More taste than you )
All slivers gain Mustache walk
@@unclerobbieslug (Creatures with mustache walk cannot be blocked by beards)
"Slivers have been been a highly requested topic."
Me, first time seeing a sliver: "What the hell is that Japanese tentacle monster thing?"
Me, having embraced slivers as my lord and savior: "Why the hell do people want to know about those Japanese tentacle monster things?"
I know the mothership had a little Shandalar story for the M2014/2015 slivers. I think it's assumed that the Hivelord is a lone sliver that got blasted to the roaming plane either during the Rathi Overlay, the birth/death of Karona or the Time Spiral debacle and it essentially evolved invulnerability to ensure survival of its progeny.
Basically Xenomorphs, Tyranids and/or Zerg (whichever analogy you prefer).
Yess, Tyranids! Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I'd add the Flood there
Well the other comparison would be ants but that's just very bland.
@@gobomania
It's worth noting, because it hasn't been explored yet, but slivers have had contact with Glistening Oil, repeatedly.
Inspiration for mutation.
time to kill some bugs
(Terran 1 starts playing)
About the “you control” on the last 2 sets of slivers happened after a Wizards doubles tournament for the set where 1st place took all there game 2-0 (23 games) do to them both running slivers (including a total of 8 copies of Virulent Sliver where having 3 where on the field slivers had poisonous 1 X3). RND saw this and changed it for future release
Yikes. I don’t wanna sound rude but I was actually interested in reading the information you intended to convey, but found it somewhat difficult to read your post. Not sure if it’s because “internet,” or English is a second, third, etc language. I think it’s moreso the lack of punctuation.
@@miot22 Basically both players ran 4 of Viruliant sliver, which has and gives slivers poisonous 1. So three on the field meant that you have poisonous 1x3. So easy poison counter win.
@@miot22 His comment is perfectly understandable.
@@Kalenz1234 depends what you mean by understandable. If you get it, good for you, I guess.
Tbh, slivers are more adaptive than the people who play them. Change my mind.
Not gonna try, took me until a couple weeks ago to finally get slivers to cover my deck’s main weakness.
Flying.
Flying is easy in a Sliver deck, especially Commander. My main problem is board-wipes, which I cover with plenty of blue spells, included my favorite: Jaded Response. A U one-drop that counters any Sorcery (which most board-wipes are). And if you have it so Slivers tap for Mana (I have many ways in my deck to do this), that's n'ary a problem. Keep plenty of blue-control, and your Slivers are impossible to destroy, especially when your Commander fetches Slivers for 3. Guess what? You get to make all of your Slivers fly for a CMC of 4 on your turn, AT ANY TIME!
@RIOT Word.
Qrazy Quarian Oh I know it’s easy to get, I was just too lazy to get more flying slivers than the pulmonic sliver I already had in the deck.
I used to have it as a commander deck, but later converted it back to a normal deck.
Commander: Sliver Overlord.
Keys: Conspiracy. Arcane Adaptation. Hivestone. Xenograft. Training Grounds.
Also Ameboid Changeling [because I'll make YOUR creatures into slivers, then steal them].
Rest of 99: legendary creatures and a few key slivers [diffusion, manaweft, gemhide for example].
You're then playing a legendary sliver deck with access to any legendary card that fits whatever play style you want.
11:05 had me rolling. Please keep this series going this path. It’s just getting better!
My dream is some sort of sliver-eldrazi hybrid.
just use the hivestone in an eldrazi deck. Just think of all the janky hybrid shenanigans with colorless cmc and all of your creatures tapping for mana thanks to manaweft/gemhide
All slivers have annihilator 1.
Kirgo *analyaltor X where X is the number of slivers you control
Emrakul, The ageless Hive
@@Corpralcard yeah I don't see any way how you could have any friends after something like that
For Commander 2019 Wizards Should Make a Sliver Deck.
With another new commander or a reprint of an old one we need
If we're doing legacy tribes, elves and goblins can come with the mix. And a 4th deck no one cares for.
@@aaronblue7459 Goat tribal. You heard it here first !
@@aaronblue7459 merfolk maybe
They already done tribal deck it is unlikely that they will do it again.
I think the sliver legion flavor text foreshadowed the slivers becoming smart enough to only help friendly slivers and becoming humanoid
All I know is that I love how the sliver hivelord looks.
And that everyone hates me for my sliver deck.
😂😂😂
Mike Martinez It’s gotten to the point that I have to try to make it “fair” by offering 2v1s.
It’s still not fair for them.
Jedinate6 mind sharing the slivers you use? I have duplicates of 90% of slivers and can’t get a good balance.
I'm currently making a sliver commander deck, any suggestions?
Brandon Scott If possible, add some older slivers. You’ll get more bonuses and some do some pretty neat things.
My personal theory is that the Slivers are a part of some kind of planar Von Neumann probe. The slivers spread out, form mutations and adapt to the host plane, and then use their psionic link to pass these mutations and information onto each other. Once a Hive Queen is formed, it acts as a kind of central server and database for the sliver network, guiding the lesser slivers and storing any data recovered. My headcanon is that the sliver queens are still transmitting any gathered data to their creator, maybe a planeswalker from some advanced civilization.
The portuguese translation adapted the name to "fractius", a made up word to sound like fractal, and I think that was amazing
Just curious, does Sliver mean something already in Portugese?
@@8Scientist not that I'm aware of
In German it's called Remasuri, which means nothing in German language
As someone who was heavily invested in the in the odyssey storyline, seeing it focused on slivers is like watching a nature documentary set during world War 2. Like "and then a bunch of boats came and upset the sea life around Normandy"
8:43 I always thought that the HiveStone was Computer Server for the hive mind. Like an artificial Queen for the hive. "Then Why not have it be an robot creature?" Well, it's probably easier to work on if it's not a robot walking around and trying attack you. Safer to have it be a computer tower.
Lore thought: As you explained the slivers have several different leaders over the year (Queen, Overlord, Hivelord, etc.) so the change from all slivers (from when they were just under one leader, the Queen) to now only slivers you control makes some sense. There are now (possibly) factions within the slivers and they are only willing to grant their powers to others of their faction instead of giving their power to all of their race. Just a thought that might reconcile the lore and the change in mechanics.
It’s Nicole!!!
I like the M14 art switch (but glad they eventually switched back!). It’s a nice way to complete the nod to the Xenomorph / Predator movie inspirations.
I still love karn's approach, compelling to a mother's compassion for her children.
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D8 comment edit took my heart!
Sad noise
(Ryan) Heart is back, I'll do the noises now so you don't have to edit again WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>.> I learned my lesson, no more touching from me, thanks Ryan
"...but that's another video for another time, when I lose another bet."
May you lose every bet you ever make, Sir Ryan.
(Ryan) Everybody roots for the little guy but nobody bets on him.
I'm surprised there's been no mention of the significance of the name "Sliver." It makes it sound like they're fragments of what was once a unified whole, which would explain the hive mind and ability sharing a little more.
I kinda like the m14/15 sliver looks, especially diffusion sliver... got them thicc hips
The Weatherlight Saga was the first time I had my own money to buy magic. Silver's grabbed my attention immediately, and are way more interesting to me than anything else from that cycle. 20 years later when I started playing magic again they were my first commander deck. The esoteric storytelling of the early sets really inspired me. Good times
"And it's old crew got to know Volrath very well, back in the day."
That's... an understatement lol
3 years later and we're getting new sliver(s?) with Gravemother Sliver as a new Commander. Makes me wonder what other slivers they are going to be adding.
We also got a Rukarumel in that precon iirc, a scientist mentioned in some of the flavor text.
best magic commander deck idea ever: all colors and colorless sliver and eldrazi deck!!!
This is great!
also eldrazi dinosaur creature types!!! That would be awesome!
I wanna say the core sets were showing us that they came from Shandalar. On the cards Hive Stirrings, and Sliver Hive, you can see slivers in the old style and the flavor text on Hive Stirrings suggests that that's what a young sliver looks like. Shandalar slivers had more time to evolve than Rathi/Dominarian slivers and are therefore able to alter their bodies to meet their needs. Also note how Hivelord also resembles the old slivers
Actually Slivers got TWO new commanders in Modern Horizons *Cough changling*
I did just make a sliver deck with morophon as the commander, not that anyone wanted me to
stigma of the rose but you already had like 6 other options that are actually slivers? Seems like a weird choice.
@@Cole444Train morophon is a sliver, and let's me free cast like half of all the slivers in the deck how is it a weird choice?
stigma of the rose I guess Morophon strikes me as a “build a tribe without a dedicated commander” and slivers have gotten THE most love as a tribe in regards to commander. 6 capable legends, more than any other tribe, and you choose the changeling? I mean, you do you, just seems odd.
Overlord is still the best option because you can just search for morophon and get the other legendaries free and paired with a fist of suns, every sliver is free
Karn reasoning with the Sliver Queen is still my favorite moment in magic history.
Can you make a video on the phyrexian praetors?
I want to make this upvote like 5 times
Love Slivers. Slow decks yes but after a few turns they start getting difficult to deal with. And then you bring in the legendary slivers or whatever the one that gives hexproof(can't remember)
I'd very much like to see your take on Phyrexians.
Since we're having Yawgmoth as a legendary creature in Modern Horizons, that might be a perfect opportunity to get to it!
Man I want to see phirexian slivers
So fun fact, Ryan and friends, if you love slivers you might appreciate this. I am running a Ravnica campaign where my players realize that Slivers are a Simic creation (the perfect adaptable being) the party will fight the First Sliver as seen in MH and eventually an Izzet NPC I have will teleport them through space and time to the unknown plan that Volrath first discovered them.
I’m making a custom mini for the First sliver right now and I’d be happy to share it with you all once it’s done.
Love these videos, keep up the great work!
(Ryan) Sounds awesome and I hope your party appreciates it!
TCGplayer because it’s slivers they probably won’t 🤣 it’s going to be a nutty encounter. Thanks for the reply 😊
Team Riptide? More like Team R.I.P-tide! ... yeah I'll see myself out....
I still remember when these came out. It was the most amazing and brutal deck at the time. Still prefer the old look but I do love that the new slivers only effect my own critters.
13 minutes 48 seconds, that's an awful lot of time to say "a blight upon the Multiverse"
@@doncon_380 recently started collecting them.... my friends already told me if I build it for commander they are gonna riot. I cant help i like them.
@@kanevivi its their fault they cannot comprehend true power
Or deal with it
Thank you! I enjoy how in depth you are with your stories, and your sense of humor is a nice bonus 😂
"The perfection of the story telling skill depends on the perfection of the mustache"
and you sir got them both
You break my heart with this episode my sliver deck was one to be feared and was unbeaten it even totally destroyed other sliver decks couldn't even hold a flame to it till I lost it to a stupid rainstorm!!!! Rest in peace my precious slivers.
I lost it at your hilarious outburst against their HORRIBLE HUMANOID MISHAP of a design, and nearly fell off my chair
I was under the impression the slivers were gaining sentience, hence the humanoid shape they took on in m14, and the flavor text of sliver legion. I was thinking one of them would develop the spark and become their leader eventually. Not a queen, but just a leader.
Thanks Amy! Thanks Nicole! Thanks Ryan! Thanks Keith!
Yea, EDH Slivers are spoiled for choice for Commanders but the only one that makes sense is Overlord. If you can get that out you can get the other ones out because he searches out the other ones, it gives my terrible, inconsistent EDH deck much needed consistency. So the others would go into the library in my opinion, minus Queen she just seems like a collector’s piece at best.
They’re super complex, especially considering that some of their abilities stack if there’s a duplicate sliver on the field
Slivers are great, until your opponent starts calling you names lol
I really want to run slivers but they draw a lot of hate from the table
Dude, Sliver Queen, Heartstone and Ashnod's Alter = INFINITE SLIVERS!
Kamikaze Kuban sliver queen is a CEDH deck so it’s not really a “collectors piece” but honestly if you have a sliver deck just run them all
Sol Ring Deckbuing always
Zach how are you gonna fetch the artifacts reliably?
I remember when Slivers first came out in Tempest... They were the terror of our kitchen table playgroup - there was always a guy that always had an early Crystalline Sliver that made it impossible for us to interact (we had no control player with mass removal)
Can you do a video on the story of the Time Spiral block? I've always tried to understand the story, but I'm just not able to figure everything out, mainly because I don't know much Dominaria lore in general.
Back in the mid-2000s when I was still first getting into Magic, myself and a couple friends played a multiplayer game where both of my friends were playing Slivers, and there was an amazing punt at the end of the game where a friend gave all of the slivers on the board Shadow to get through my blockers...
Leaving me at 1 Life and leaving *them* with no blockers. I combo'd off and turned the game around the very next turn with my burn deck and knock them both out in one attack.
Slivers are wild.
Waiting for sliver planeswalker. It'll be awesome.
Volrath planeswalker maybe ?
Hivestone + Gideon ;)
Yeah was just thinking that, maybe it could share it’s spark.
You'll get your sliver planeswalker when I get my eldrazi planeswalker. That is to say, probably not any time soon.
@@hismajesty_thevoid7037 I'm not fully sure what wrenn and six is yet.
Slivers are legitimately my favorite creature type in the game. I miss them being around 😭
Slivers are my second favorite mechanic/tribe/lore next to Phyrexians.
Slivers started looking like the firsts parasites from the anime Parasite and ended up looking like the final parasite from the anime Parasite.
"Waaaaay back in 1997" is it really that long ago? Trying to not feel old here.
(Ryan) Same, friend. Same.
Hello, I'm a college graduate and I wasn't even born yet at that point, or even conceived.
23 years is a long time, I guess lol. I started on the Weatherlight block so it feels like home
Slivers are the best creature type hands down
And the fact that you are spreading their message has got me thinking
Have you joined the hive anytime soon? We welcome you!
(Ryan) If anything, my Naban, Dean of Iteration Commander deck puts me firmly on Team Wizards, which seem to be the mortal enemies of slivers at this point lol
LOL Ryan became Nicole Bolas slave for a moment, great video, thanks for making these, keep them coming!
Thanks for reminding me how old I am! Sliver Queen combo, Tolarian Academy (nuff said), and so many others. Excellent work, I think...
Rocking that 'Stache my dude
Thanks for this I had never delved into Sliver lore, was fascinated by them when I got back into the game for Tempest cycle way back when. That sliver commander on Historic Brawl is a real overplayed nightmare.
Slivers are the best creature type
Change my mind
One of the best things about being a 7 year old MTG player was being absolutely shellshock and mesmerized by the art. From the phyrexians with no faces and tubes coming out of everywhere to, well, slivers.
So whatever they do, they better not mess with the 1 claw 2 tail nensensical perfection that is the sliver anatomy.
What is that, 3 more bets that need to be lost?
Alcohol may be required to get those three bets lost in a reasonable amount of time.
Playing MTG since 96, after 23 years i see this video and i think how old i am, one of my first decks was Slivers.
This is me too :_)
Everyone asks: "Who are slivers?" Never "how are slivers?"
I love slivers in EDH. Even though we all know about them and they get printed every few years, every time I pull out the Overlord and put it on the table, it’s oohs and awws and draws a few people.
Sli...sli... SLIVERS?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
My nightmare.
Join us, join the hive, become a sliver player.
One of us, one of us!
I think that making your army into slivers would help in keeping the slivers under control because any way the slivers would buff eachother would also buff you, so that would mean that you would have the same abilities as them plus whatever you have on your own. Either that or it gives you the ability to change the thoughts of the hivemind.
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slivers always fascinated me and i have a sliver deck. and once it gets rolling nothing can stop them.
Quick, someone throw some bets at him! Need another story video. . .
You just gave this channel a new sub. I am a big fan of slivers and i did not know they are in modern horizon
Plot twist, slivers are evolved eldrazi
That's backwards
@@CGoody564 but eldraxi aren't natural to this plain. So I theorize that slivers are their decendents
@@seasnek7024 they definitely share a lot of similarities plus there is Ghostflame Sliver that makes all Slivers colorless and both are a all consuming force
I love your chill vibe. I would put any arcanum just to relax listening to it
Theory time: The First Sliver isn't actually the first sliver, just the first to escape from the Riptide Project. Questionable evidence can be found in the flavor text of one of the blue slivers from that set where it mentioned the first sliver escapes by copying the form of a junior researcher.
I think that is the first sliver and that slivers are from Alara, given that the first sliver has cascade, an alara block mechanic
@@pphyjynx8217 That means nothing really. Convoke was the Selesnya mechanic but there's been a lot of things printed with Convoke with no ties to Ravnica. Modern Horizons just used any cool mechanics they wanted on any card and repurposed them. While there's a sliver with Unearth (another Alara mechanic), there is also one with Outlast (a Khans mechanic).
This is exactly the type of video, that someone who never played MTG will get recommended by the UA-cam algorithm at 3am and still watch til the end :)
Gorgons?? Slivers? Where's my Squirrel Lord commander that craps out squirrels????
I think you got your wish lol
Hivestone's flavor text literally says that those who don't know how to use it are controlled by the slivers instead of vice versa when people do know how it's used
I liked M14's slivers. I love the OG slivers but M14's were cool. They remind me of Predators.
no
I once had Sliver Overlord as a Commander for a 5-color Commander deck. (using the Premium Sliver 60-card deck as a base)
he combos beautifully with Amoeboid Changeling.
I sold the deck for $70
I hope you lose your very next bet. I very much want the video about Wrath.
I love bringing my modern Slivers deck to the table. It doesn't always win, but it gives the meta chasers a moment or two of panic when it gets loose. :D
What are slivers? The best creature type...
Mwahahahahahaha
I couldn't agree more lol btw i run sliver Hivelord as my commander
*Laugh in Changeling*
**Chitters mentally to the hive**
Michael Cabangbang until they get overrun by the zombie horde
@@peewee130946 zombies can handle slivers lol they arent indestructible
I have always been a fan of slivers and am excited for their return.
"The old cards hum with anticipation." me, now.
There's a joke amongst my edh pod that is that there is only one sliver deck,
Couldn't ignore the fact that the Cloudshredder Sliver art (12:53) resembles a lot to the Skyknight Legionnaire back in the first Ravnica expantion. Almost identical
My babies! *cackles in Hivemind*
Thanks for that bit of history. I hope more story for slivers one day. Also the old slivers are hard to find.
i find slivers just so cool. their concept and capabilities are amazing.
This mirrored effect change happened with hearthstone’s version of slivers too. Murlocs also used to have symmetrical effects but they changed them to only effect murlocs you control. So if both devs ran into the same problem and used the same solution, then it’s probably for the best.
Would be interesting if anyone knows any other card games that made the same change
Your videos are awesome and I love watching all of the ones I have been able to so far. I will eventually get to see them all and be 100% caught up lol, that could take a while though. I'm so glad that you did a video covering these interesting creatures and also really enjoy how you break things down as well as disclaim that some things may be off for those people that aren't familiar with the lore in MTG before and now. Can't wait for the next episodes!
can´t wait for any videos about the weatherlight saga. again, you are a great story teller, Ryan. thank you!
Don't forget the Overlord alt art in Secret Lair. Awesome artwork
I really love the time, research, and effort you guys put into your videos, they're awesome! Also, please more Nicole! It's nice to have a small comic relief section in the video, it was really fun. Keep it up!