No one cares about Apple Vision Pro
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- Опубліковано 15 січ 2024
- EP. 1251 - No one cares about Apple Vision Pro
Apple Vision Pro - the biggest product launch since the Apple Watch is coming in just a few days… so why doesn’t anyone care?
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Simply put:
The price point is so high that it isn’t really worth keeping up with information about it because most of us are 100% sure we wont be buying it.
100% accurate, totally agree
High price and two hour battery life, 😆
I was going to say the same thing. At that price point most normal people won't be buying it.@@miguelrodriguezsanchez3683
$3500 to use the apps on your phone for 2 hours while wearing ski goggles
Simple put nobody wants or needs VR ! even those companies Apple jumped on the bandwagon with, cant sell decent numbers at an 8th of the price. VR wont be widely adopted untill its the size of a regular pair of glasses that you see through both ways, with at least an 8 hour battery life, and that technology is decades away ! Apple wasted a shed load of cash developing this and judging by their nervous and hastily put together presentation I think they know it !
I'm foaming at the mouth for it, as a developer. Everyone else doesn't think its current utility validates the price point, and they're absolutely right. I think Apple knows this and didn't want to market the hell out of it for that reason. 2nd gen will be a different story I think.
Bingo. Just like the iPhone, and to some extent the Apple Watch… get it in people’s hands, let them start to decide how it fits in their lives… then go from there. Keep in mind, this is the worst Vision Pro will ever be… it’s only up from here.
They would probably be all out for the 2nd one
can i ask what kind of media? like video or video games? I want to buy one but I cant see where ill need it at home since I work a physical job in a hospital
You are rich that’s why
@@nateumsyou would use it to make all comuting and media consumption tasks at home
If you wear this, you have everything that your iPad/iPhone/TV can do a fingerputtogether action away (or maybe two, haven’t tried visionOS yet. And if you have a mac running, you can add everything that can be done with mac to the list.
Jon, it's because they literally *can't* "show" us, without personally trying it. That's the inherent problem with marketing any VR/AR headset. It's also why it's hard for people like us to accurately convey our thoughts about it, because no amount of words will do the experience, whether good, bad or lukewarm, justice. That's been my worry about Vision Pro from the jump. Good video. -Jeff
Love this
I think it will be like 3D for TVs. Cool while it last but the price is just too costly like those 3D glasses.
@@sakenu16 3d tvs we're just kinda silly since you had to have glasses. Which. You might not want to worry about glasses while chilling after work or school.
Vr headsets definitely have a place, and the cost will go down. But now is just not the time. I guess it's kinda like folding phones.
I hope they make some demo stations! There's a Mini Target near my university that has a Facebook Quest 3 VR headset in a display box, but not as a demo station besides seeing what the headset looks like. Demo stations were so nice, and it'd be great to see them return for VR/AR headsets.
Edit: ah, just got to the part where they were apparently doing demos at Apple stores. It is definitely a beta first gen
@@htsunmiku You can watch films on VR headsets for 400 dollars and they still cant sell them in decent numbers, VR is dead the technology to make them something people will tolerate wearing beyond the novelty factor, ie a pair of glasses is decades away !
The price debate over VisionPro is similar to paying over $10,000 for an e-bike. Some can’t imagine. For others, the price is not a big deal. Depends on your available resources and priorities.
That’s not a good analogy. Considering you can buy a decent e-bike for much less than 10k.
When everyone saw 3500 for the announcement, the general audience/consumer wrote it off immediately. Your average joe rn is not dropping 4K on a headset
lmao alot of us dont even have vehicles that cost that much 😂
The average person doesn't even want to drop 400 on a VR headset ! let alone 3500
And a first gen headset at that
@@rocketmunkey1eh debatable
@@Rudgged Everyone I know who bought one ended up leaving it in a cupboard. People don't want to live in a heavy hot sweaty pair of goggles, perhaps when they're the size of a pair of glasses that you can see through both ways, but that technology is decades away. Apple shouldn't have bought into the hype of lesser rivals, and stuck to reinventing practical things that people actually use and want.
the pricing is a huge barrier for interest
Exactly. He’s out of touch with us consumers. Just because he can afford it for 3500 doesn’t mean the massing can
@@POVwithRCik you are rage baiting, but in the beginning the iphone 2g costed 500 dollars which was rlly expensive back then. and then it got cheaper over time and that will happen with the vision pro.
How much is an iPhone nowadays tho?
plus they have almost no supply ....so there is no point to advertise it like an iphone
How about battery?
It’s absolutely a dev kit disguised as the “first generation consumer” model, they’re getting it out there they’re getting the idea in people’s minds as they work in a lighter cheaper version in response to feedback and more content from developers
I’m basically waiting til Gen 2 on this, because I think this first gen is for devs. I think they knew the market for this first gen wasn’t going to be the general public because it needs devs to fill in the gaps with games, workspaces, etc. I would guess if the launch hits well with devs that is when we’ll see a bigger hype from Apple
Developers wont care about the product if there are no users for it. Also, iOS and MacOS apps supposed to be compatible with it.
I’ve seen several devs speaking about how excited they are for this product in the comments section of videos on the VisionPro, whereas most general consumers are neutral. If it eases the development process for devs, it becomes a tool for them regardless of whether the general public is using it because they will be using it to create apps, games, sites, and more for both the VisionPro and other devices such as Mac, iPad, or possibly PC. Ofc this is all speculation since we don’t know what it ships with or what the UX is like. We’ll see how it pans out shortly
Was going to preorder, but it’s so expensive that I decided to let some early adopters have real feelings about it…with practical reviews rather than fanboy reviews.
I was thinking that. Except the return policy so good that I’ll try and return
@@alecubudulecuplease don’t bro just try it at the store the quantities are limited so if you aren’t going to keep it or aren’t sure just let people who actually want it get the preorder
"... rather than fanboy reviews"? Then you're not buying it ever, then. UA-camrs and Applr loyalists are, almost by definition, have to be fanboys about it.
I was going to order a Ferrari, but it was so expensive that I decided to let some owners have real feelings about it...with practical reviews rather than fanboy reviews. 😂😂😂 You sound stupid.😊
its not the time to get practical with it. not even close
My belief as to no traction:
1. Price point.- this is a month of living expenses for a ton of people.
2. Usability- no one can really see how this fits in their life
3. Size- ties directly with #2. Even if one was willing to try and use it, they don't want to carry it around or be seen wearing it. Even the Ray Ban Meta glasses get hardly any attention and they're a practical and unassuming form factor.
Guess it depends on your use case. I have zero interest in carrying it around or be seen wearing it. This will 100% be used from the comfort of my home, primarily for watching media.
From all reports, watching videos on it is incredible. I was eying off a 100" OLED TV, I'm now hoping the Vision Pro will fill that 'gap' in my life :)
@@James-lw3giit will probably do a great job at replacing tv for you. It can display the movie bigger and better than even 100” model but only for you u cant see movies with anyone else unless they have vision pro. So its great if ur rich or if ur alone
@@AbdulAzeez-up4nwthen why arent people already preferring the metaverse and other vr options for watching content? its pretty uncomfortable in many ways. the metaverse is flopping hard right now and there is no reason to believe that better hardware can change that.
Out side of entertainment this thing don’t seem all that convincing. All its magical wonders starts to fall off hard. Apple knows this and will eventually slowly distance themselves away from VR after its release. With more people interested in AI, Apple will definitely jump into the race but it will be after Vision Pro is released. I prefer if they implemented their own ai or just improved Siri.
I think the “replace your massive TV with Vision Pro” is pure marketing nonsense. Who is going to put that on their head for two or three hours? Sure there will be the diehards (you’ll know them because they will be cross eyed), but I reckon *many* people will see through that bit of Apple’s bullshit.
I’m pre-ordering. I’m a business owner & work at my iMac all day. Very interested to see how the Vision Pro holds up with my work day.
Umm, you’re gonna be doing 2 hours a day instead 😂
I pre-ordered on 1/19. I have used VR headsets for a few years now. I will be using this for 2-4 hours per day.
It will slow you down bc it sucks
@@BrandonDBaxter sorry you cant afford one.
I care about the implications of it, and the possibility of it becoming a regular updated product which gets better and cheaper over time, but for now it’s just too expensive and lacking reasons to use it for the average consumer. It’s a experimental high end tech product and it will take time
4700 USD for a v1.0 product with no clear purpose, day to day.
I love my Mac, but I say No Thanks to Vision Pro.
This is the first time, probably ever, where I’m like, “Oh, I'm gonna let the beta testers figure this out.” about an Apple product… 💁🏻
But apple makes solid products. iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, MacBook? and I dont like apple. lol
@@Fernando-oh1wi solid products or not. This one doesn’t feel that cool
I dont know what jern is crying about.
Apple vision pro is basically Motorola DynaTAC 8000X cell phone in 1983. The first commercial cell phone, priced at $3995, 30 minute battery life, 10 hours to charge it, 2kg heavy and 10 inches long... and very clearly the future. Had to go into production even tho it was so inconvenient for us to get to where we are now
@@Fernando-oh1withe first gen Apple Watch was also not really that great, it took a bit for it to become what it is now
The first gen Apple Watch I would argue is much more so. Yes it was far cheaper, but it was also far slower and vastly worse and experience than its 2nd, 3rd and 4th iterations.
As a developer, Apple told us the best information possible -- “everything you release on iPhone, iPad, Mac will work at launch… same developer tools, same design languages… you’re already equipped to build for this new platform”
Other platforms and company wish and dream they could do this with new products…
Yeah. I have multiple apps and only some of them work without any changes. Mostly UI issues
It’s similar to when Apple silicon Macs could run Intel apps out-of-box
Apple understands a new platform's success is fully dependent on developers. Hence they're doing everything they can to make sure the whole thing is easy for developers. From compatibility, to documentation, to even the root design of the whole OS.
Δεν κατάλαβες ότι όλο αυτό εννοεί ότι όλες οι εφαρμογές και τα παινχίδια που έχουν βγει για την πλατφόρμα της Apple θα τις βλέπεις στο headset σε ένα 2D παράθυρο κάτι που απλά είναι ανέκδοτο και υποτιμά την νοημοσύνη του κόσμου.
netflux and other apps said they aren't going to support it on launch. you will have to use Netflix, facebook, instagram in browser
It will work in 2D on a screen that you have to control with your eyes. Who the hell wants to do that?
I think the price point is meant to put off casual consumers. I think they’re trying to gather as much information as possible from developers, enthusiasts and influencers as they’re more likely to provide useful feedback. I even think it’s partially why they made the decisions they did with the battery and weight of the headset. It’s like you said “they care too much and not at all, all at the same time”. If I’m correct I think it’s a genius move from Apple
Apple is all about the “casual consumer “. They just thought they could push bs out at a ridiculous high point and everyone would jump on it.
Its a genius move to release a product, that they don't know what its for, and at a price point which will ensure failure, perhaps you should look up the word genius again !
@@rocketmunkey1 the iPhone only had one version and now look at it. The iPhone had the luxury of being first but Vision Pro does not. They want to make this device ubiquitous but they need to understand how this device will be used the gen pop. Making Vision Pro budget friendly to the gen pop would be financial suicide so this is the next best alternative
@@dontayz99 They don't even know what VR is for, so much so that they want developers to figure it out for them !?!? Nobody wants VR, nobody wants to live their life in isolating hot sweaty heavy head goggles when they can simply just pick up their mobile phone or sit in front of a TV. Nobody wants to substitute infinate K reality for a tenth rate 4k version of it, and at this price it was a mistake to release it at all.
They should have waited 15 years until the technology was available to make them the size of a pair of glasses, with an 8 hour battery life, Apple are just going to be pouring cash down the drain for the next 15 years whats so clever about that ?
@@rocketmunkey1 they'll be releasing a competitor for the Meta Rayban glasses in probably 2 years that will be way less clunky. This is priming the pump. @dontayz99 is totally right, I think. That's why they keep talking about spatial computing, not virtual or mixed reality. They're inviting devs and creators to make content for this platform.
It's a public developer testing kit. The SE, with much better battery runtime, with no cables and being much smaller / lighter / more portable at a ~1k price point will ground-breakingly change the world we live in forever.
Honestly I think they could sell it very successfully at 1600 or even a bit more if they throw in enough "laptop" replacing elements.
The fact it is US$3500 at least and only available in USA to start is perhaps why the Google trends was low the last several months. This whole product sounds like an expensive public beta product, that has the core technologies nailed but lot of rough edges like the virtual keyword not allowing multi-touch at launch. The watch did moderately well at launch due to the lower price, wide reach and also appealed to people that have worn traditional watches for years (myself included).
dont compare this to the apple watch lmao
We need version 2 at less than half the price with a few killer apps to make it compelling.
They have cool AR/XR glasses that actually look like glasses and just cost about 3 to 400 bucks , this project is DOA
@@SWOTHDRA Hey, you’re back! So good to hear from you again! We’ve really missed you since you said the same thing about the original iPhone right after Macworld 2007. We were all arguing with you, but you just wouldn’t listen. But in all fairness, you hadn’t even used an iPhone at that point. I guess you’re in the same boat here. Then you said basically identical things about the original iPad in 2010 and Apple Watch in 2014. Then you just disappeared after that. So, glad to see you back. Let’s schedule a FaceTime call on my podcast around, let’s say 2030, just to choose a nice round number. And we’ll just chat about why you were wrong, or why - in your opinion - we “misquoted” you back in 2024. Anyway, good to hear from you again!
@@SWOTHDRA Incorrect. The screen and the processing power mean a TON in this space. The eye tracking and impressive hand controls matter a lot. There is nothing really comparable to this on the market right now, and I really believe that people that can afford this will buy it, and the rest of us will just wait for the next couple years until there's a version we can more easily afford that still gives us that premium screen and controls. I also think that this will push forward the entire VR/AR industry and the tech around VR (like volumetric cameras) to make it way more compelling.
A true 3GS moment. "Twice the speed, half the price"
@@SWOTHDRA this is a whole different ballpark...
I’m personally pre-ordering it if I can grab one on pre order day. I think there are two big reasons the first is the price and the second is nothing has even been shown off. This should of had its own event prior to release going over everything it can do and showing some highlight apps
I think they’re really trying to do VR/AR right, which is why they’re taking it slow and ensuring a good fit. Once they figure out the problems and the media has covered it, then people might actually be interested.
Yes. We need vision for a better price 😂
Quest 3
@@qtcollect4608 both are not same... are they? Quest doesn't have an ecosystem to interact with which Apple does best
I'll compare both and check... I know it exists but never checked the features
I think they’re showcasing it as a household item (knowing the regular person isn’t buying the first iteration) in order to prep people for future iterations at a lower cost so that people still have it top of mind going forward
absolutely.. and the main point of these videos, too, I think, is to show people that the interface of using it will not be too complicated or techy for them to figure out.. Oh, it's just like my phone, only I swipe with my hand and look at the icons instead of actually touching them.. that's easy enough!
The biggest question is whether this can be used for working as a designer in hotels. Will it allow me to have Figma and Adobe products on a usable screen OR will they all be too far away to see the details? If it allows me to recreate a series of large screens for working then all I need is my laptop and this and that's perfect. But the demos so far seem to only show default MacOS apps.
Need to see if Adobe / Figma works in it and then Office / Teams / Excel. Do you think I can do Teams calls? Positively answer these and I'm in, and it becomes a productivity tool that justifies some of the cost.
You can do that on Quest 3 for a fraction of the cost
MKBHD is implying that the hype dies down quickly when you use it because it's so excruciatingly heavy that it trumps any benefits. And he is Apple's MOST hand-picked creator.
Not to mention VR is so 2017
Mkbhd also weighs like 120 pounds at like 6’5. If you have more than 2 small chicken tenders as a neck, you’ll be fine.
it doesnt do anything that i havent seen before or need
@@mitas3484 This is not a VR headset
@@Atheistcruz How so?
The cost is ridiculous. it's hard to get excited or even care about something you know you won't be paying for if you're even remotely fiscally responsible.
So you’ve never been excited for something you can’t get? Your life must be boring
Yea It’s literally only for developers even if Apple admits it or not
I agree. It's exciting if it's attainable. I can get excited about a yacht. But I know I'll never be able to afford one, so... @briantong correctly pointed out that the Meta Quest 3 base model costs as much as Apple Care for the Vision Pro. I know these are two different products. But one of these is affordable by normal humans with normal jobs. The other is available to people who make UA-cam videos for a living and the spoiled rich kid who annoyed you in high school. I love Apple products. But this one is a $4000 (because sales tax is a thing) tech demo. I'll pass.
@@Hajimoosensei yea I agree. You notice how they call it an Apple Vision ‘Pro’ out of the gate? This looks like it will remain as a flagship model as the tech (hardware & software) develops and then they will release more “affordable” models once tech catches up to make it a viable product
@@gtaatmiami You're right. But it's a so non-Apple move by a company that normally doesn't release tech demo products. Apple let Samsung and others test the big phone market before jumping in with their own. They let Android fail with most of their Android Wear watches before the Apple Watch said "hold my beer." This is NOT a hold my beer moment. This feels more like Apple created their own alcoholic beverage that no one asked for.
What if this is one of those golden ticket type of events where only those possessing a Vision Pro will be able to survive an upcoming apocalyptic event? Anyway, all jokes aside, I am excited to order one and glad most of you all are ok waiting. Less competition for us ready for this product 😂. By the way, great video!!
BRuH… lol🙌🏿🏁💯
Let the first movers and users speak when we receive them in february. I got the 1Tb version, so excited to get it Feb 7!
If it’s so customised to the one user does that mean that no one else can then use it?
It’s the price. It’s too expensive. I’ll stick with my Quest 2 for now.
Having just got the quest 3 I would say that has just gone and killed Apple Vision Pro just because you can buy 7yes 7 quest3 to one Vision Pro just a no brainier 😮 but to the point the quest 3 is f#@# orsom
@@alex8stevens I honestly can’t see what improvements the vision pro can make to justify such a high price over what the Quest 3 already does…maybe better pass through but that’s still not enough to justify the price..so far from what I can see, all the features that are wowing people on the vision pro are already in the quest 3…it’s a freaking awesome device..AND it’s not vendor locked to the Apple eco system
Tbh i typically just scroll past vision pro stuff. Im only here because of you. So it makes sense.
The way they announced it along with the initial price point make it pretty clear that they are not really targeting the general consumer base at first launch. I imagine they want to get it out there in developers' hands and get through some bumps before really making a push to consumers.
Since the launch of the M3 chip, will they be putting the newest chip in the headset instead of the M2 or just be putting the M2 in?
I won’t be able to pre order it but I’ll definitely get it in the coming months, I just hope version 2 or 3 the price comes down
Is it me, or does it seem like the vision pro release seems likes an mass public experiment? Like apple doing a trial run to collect data and then release the actual apple vr product in a few years
I think you're right, though I don't think it's an experiment as much as it is a well-thought out strategy. Apple Watch is the closest thing I can think of to compare it to. It wasn't an immediate hit because no one was used to buying a watch at that price and it was untested and people thought, I already have a phone why do I need a smaller phone on my wrist as well? But now almost everyone has a smart watch if they have a watch at all. Added to that, a video just DOESN'T sell the full experience of VR. We're so used to looking through a screen for everything and the videos try to show that it's more than that, but you just can't get it until you try it on. Get people in the Apple Store to actually experience this and people will buy it... and those that don't will want one but wait for the SE model.
Until the price is 2k or under, people will not be interested in it. Simple as that.
I just pre-ordered one this morning. In-store pickup Feb. 3rd!
When I first saw Vision Pro I was like man it’s so cool! Then I saw the price and I said nombre nevermind and never looked at it again.
You once said that the expensive apple products were made for the people who could afford them and not for average guy who won’t get the full usage out of it.
Yup. This screams luxury toy and not tool of the future.
@@tobybartlett You could've said the same thing about the iPhone when it launched as well.
Vision Pro is an amazing item, but it's also an expensive item that nobody needs.
As a Musician... where do we plug into this amazing spacial computer? My Audio Interface is confused.
I just want to know what are the plans for cheaper iterations
We'll get back to you in 5 years once we see Apple's next iteration
@@truthbullets Gotcha 👌🏾
I’m imagining using Photoshop on a 100-inch virtual monitor. Video editing? SHEESH!!!
🔥🔥🔥anywhere
You can do that on Quest 3….just saying
waiting to see input methods for text and creation tools. I'm waiting to see how well Apple supports it with their own apps.
Will try it as soon as I can get my hands on it. Won’t buy it brand new, probably will wait for a second hand
I am quite literally frothing at the mouth
That’s called “dick hunger” 😂
One thing about Apple is that it keeps trying to sell "professional level" products to as many regular people as possible - MacBook Pro, Apple Watch Ultra, and now this.
In my opinion, none of these products are for average consumers.
But I don't think it's a problem of the products. This is more of a marketing issue.
or maybe apple is just overpriced and out of touch with their consumers
100%. I don’t think Apple is out of touch though, because what they do works and works so well (they are frequently valued as the number 1 company in the world, which is insane if you think about it). They probably wonder why I (or people like me) won’t upgrade to an M1+ mackbook pro though; it’s because I paid about $3000 in cash for the intel 16 incher. With cash, you feel the sting (vs financing/credit), so yeah not upgrading for a long time lol.
Not yet available in the U.K. so will look forward to it when it’s on its way.
This was very funny and informative. Thanks!
A new gadget that most people dont know what to do with, at a high price point, when global ecnomics are bad. Its a really cool device for a very niche group of people. If I bought it im certain that I'd use it a couple times, be impressed, put it down, and forget about it for a while.
Agree with that. I think this is the problem of all VR devices, it is cool to try it first time, but will never use daily.
That's not what I do with my Quest 2 I bought for $300 plus. It even replaced some of the game genre from flatscreen. My Switch have been collecting dust instead
I’d love to get it, but it’s too expensive. The value isn’t there.
People said products like AirPods and Apple Watch will not do well but ended up doing extremely well, I think it’ll be the same thing here
I think you are probably right, but the curve up is going to be much more protracted then those two.
But AirPods and Apple Watch were still affordable… at $3500 where people are still struggling just don’t think they are equivalent. But if this is a product of future I hope they do knock Meta of their horses as I don’t trust them at all with privacy stuff.
I think the comparison of this product is more like AirPod Max. Great at what it is, but just too expensive for most who can just buy Bose or Sony that are also great.
People said the first machintosh was a literal toy for kids and they were right. People said the Apple 3 was paperweight and they were right, people said the G4 Cube was a pointless product and they were right, people said Apple Maps was garbage and they were right (Apple apologized). I could go on and on but you get the point. Stop being a condescending prick and understand that Apple can be right and so can the customer, you know. The folks actually buying the plastic and metal.
I’m preordering. As a developer, I’m curious about the future of the space and I want to build some of the first apps. Did the same with the overpriced Meta Quest Pro when it released. Pure curiosity.
I’m not paying $3000 for a gen one product that frankly looks like it is looking for a problem to solve that I just don’t think i have.
3500 to be exact 😅
Even worse!@@kurltonfalconer9353
Releasing this on the day in the hour where actually all big tech reviewers posting their experiences and hands ons . Bummer. Check engagement. Guess people will and do care about it.
Love your videos Jon. I hope the Vision Pro is gonna do well and future iterations will bring the price down once it’s available in enough markets.
Well this sold out in LA at least 5 hours but I’m sure less. It’s just when I went back to add accessories that I noticed all of LA had sold out. I didn’t even get it the first day available and I was ready at 5 am.
Im a video professional. I pre-ordered one, my main reason is to watch movies in a virtual home theater. I love watching movies in a cinema, big screen and sound, but I HATE most of the movie theater experience. From the duration being longer and longer that it’s almost impossible to watch a movie without a bathroom break, and thus missing parts of a movie, to dealing with rude and disrespectful people around you,finding a showing that matches when you can see the movie, dealing with parking, theaters that charge more and are maintained less, and, almost forgot, the shitty quality of today’s movies. Besides, it’s not like I can watch For All Mankind in a movie theater. If this thing is successful the movie theaters are in big trouble.
I sure as hell don't, so I agree. Price is way to high for the masses, and normies like myself.
You know what I might actually buy, an affordable ar/vr headset that's light and simple, looks just like any shades one might wear, these vr headsets felt like scuba googles strap to your head, too big and heavy, to be worn for long hours.
Oh, you tried this one? Because every reviewer who actually tried it says its unlike any other headset and is actually comfortable and well balanced
According to news outsets, Apple can‘t even keep up the demand right now. I think that’s because a) they can’t produce it on mass scale or b) this first gen product is not „ready“ yet and apple wants developers to make apps for it and enthusiasts to give them feedback
I’m extremely excited about it. Will probably wait a few months after it’s released and Apps available, read Reviews, before possibly buying.
If not first version, the second, after bugs are addressed.
To be fair, I think once ppl actually use it, then you will see the hype. The iPhone wasn't crazy in the tech space till ppl got ahold of it, then it changed the world (not that this will) but I think you have to try it to get it you know? Price also, price is a big barrier.
People have gotten to use it and the reactions aren't great. It's apparently way too heavy to be used for more than 20 minutes.
Yea, people don’t really know what to do with it. Yet, including myself. I see it as a $3,500 room sized display for multi tasking, but I’m not completely sold yet. Plus it’s a big thing you wear on your face which is kind of weird right now.
I could not possibly care less about it.
I don’t even like wearing the lighter Meta Quest 2 on my head for long periods of time, ain’t no way I’m gonna wann keep something heavier on
Were you around at the iPhone launch? Lines around the block, unheard of 700,000 sold over the first weekend, even with a required contract with only one carrier, etc. “iPhone wasn’t crazy”…pffft.
Seeing the early reactions to Vision Pro I sense a real danger of people rejecting the value proposition of the device, because many are not used to vr, don’t quite understand how this is a big leap and focusing more on voicing discomfort and isolation, which the internet is already blowing out of proportion.
what if Apple decides it’s not worth it (because they deal with a double standard of expected quality and are scrutinized over everything) and simply scrap this after some five years of software support and move on? It could be a real danger to vr if this is just widely rejected when it’s clearly the best that vr can offer overall right now, I’m worried… hopefully they try at least one or two more versions before giving up.
Naw I just don't think vr is ready for the masses yet, and if this is the "best" we're definitely not there. I think once technology can produce these in a size comparable to regular glasses then people might be more open to the idea.
@@cheesecurd100s based on plain physics this amount of tech cannot be in glasses for probably centuries, and if it doesn’t start, it will never evolve
@@jeanbutinfrench i think the tech is pretty close, but needs to involve devices ie smartphones that everyone already carries around. Having it be stand alone isn't the current answer to the masses I dont think
google xreal and ray ban meta@@jeanbutinfrench
it's not that its not ready for the masses, its that its fundamentally not useful in the first place @@cheesecurd100s
They already sold 180,000 netting over 1/2 billion in pre sales.
Price is a huge one, but I think views are also low because showing off a VR headset is so difficult in video, you can't 'see' what it's really like
Yea. Here in Canada where I’m at that thing would be around $4800 or so plus $600 tax. Then after a couple months people get bored of them and try to resell them on local marketplaces only to get nothing but lowballers trying to get it for $1000. I guarantee it. Personally I wouldn’t even be interested in switching out from the Meta Quest 3 until something comes out with complete FOV
Why do folks not talk about FOV?? I had a Quest 2 for a while. Got rid of it for various reasons (would take too long to list them) but a big part was the FOV. It made it a horrid experience. Vaguely curious what this things FOV is like. Not that I’ll be getting one.
I never cared at all for VR anything. That price tag though, you can keep your VR Nightmare Apple.
even if someone cares there's the Quest 3 which is $500 and Quest 2 which is $250.
@@qtcollect4608 Quest 3 is for gaming.. and great for that. But with the Vision Pro you get theatre quality visuals. It's like saying why would you buy a $2000 Macbook Pro when you can buy a cheaper laptop for 400 bucks? You could, but you're not buying the exact same thing.
The launch will only have somewhere between 60k and 400k units, according to different sources. I think with the supply being so low, the demand is already far above that, this thing will be impossible to get. It makes no sense to further promote it and make even more people who can't get it. The early adopters who are fortunate enough to grab one will do some word-of-mouth marketing to their friends and family, and that will increase the hype for the next supply and give developers time to create more things for it.
Thank you, you got it. Mr Stupid UA-cam videos did not.
I think it does fit well in the iPad category in terms of use cases, especially multimedia consumption. Although the price will cause many people not to go for it. In the future when it gets cheaper it might become the greater iPad.
I’m pre-ordering that sucker. Can’t wait for Friday and then the wait for February.
I'm getting one so I can develop apps for it, so when the glasses version released in 5 years my app will be robust and sellable!
I think they are managing expectations because they are limited by manufacturing. Sure, the price point is probably also a factor. But surely something this technologically advanced is very difficult to manufacture ... they don't want to risk advertising too much and have to deal with potential disappointment from not being able to fulfill orders, so they are just going under the radar, knowing the people following it, and that can afford it, will buy it. And they are ok with that.
Yea it’s as though they’re mostly selling a vision for the future and entrenching themselves as the leaders in that space before it actually gets here. It’s smart.
The marketing reflects the production, and the production reflects the narrow market it’s aimed at.
Perhaps feedback will shape a mainstream version later.
I want one, I’d love to try one, I wanna see those movies in those different settings etc. the one and only problem, like most people - the price. Gradually when the price comes down and the rich have bought the first generation or two and it gets good reviews, interest will pickup. I imagine it’s like when first iPhone dropped and people were balking at the price, that eventually changed (although iPhone still probably had more interest in beginning, as it was obvious how it’d change things)
Price confirms this is just for developers, it's prohibitively expensive. ie: Even if you'd buy it, you can't afford it. Feels like iPhone before the app store.
And John,
1. The people using it weren't regular people. They were obviously rich or on a StarTrek set.
2. Developers ARE people too. Somewhat. But still.
3. In every case in the marketing the people wearing the thing were in their 30s. No kids, no teens, no grandma.
When did you see "regular" people?
Because devs are all rich . And what we should search for is not smart devs but rich and big devs.
I’m preordering the headset. I’m excited to use an innovative technology made by a company that obsesses over great user experiences. I want to see how much better it is than the Meta Quest, and PC VR. I want to be one of the early adopters, like the first people to get the iPhone. And, as a software developer, I want to glimpse into the future and build some understanding for a platform where I might be able to contribute some of my own software. I’m also curious about all the other small ways it might improve my quality of life. Even if it’s just a floating UA-cam video next to my stove, so I can cook and watch the latest FPT update at the same time.
☠️☠️☠️☠️
"Gretchen, stop trying to make VR happen! It isn't going to happen!"
This is the most oblivious comment I've ever seen.
They don’t obsess on great user experience anymore.. Too many bugs
The big reveal was in June. Not much news about it since until it’s actually out.
I'm not excited for the first gen after getting a quest 3 that im really enjoying. They need to check the price and the tech for it to have a larger appeal
As an Apple Store employee I can’t wait to see all of the peoples first reaction to using this, it’s going to be amazing
👍🏻R101 alumnus checking in
People who haven’t tried are skeptical and hating on it. Every single person I’ve seen who have actually tried it are mind blown.
Think they’ll have a demo unit in store to actually wear?
@@RyanZirnheld11 I think it goes by store size, the larger and busier stores will. I know mine will but only for those who scheduled demo appointments
Couldn’t be less interested in Vision Pro even if they were giving it away.
Sure.
Oh well that’s a lie
that’s a lie💀💀 if they are giving it away, i’m most certainly interested
@@markmark3872 You can have mine! 😀
@@AS-ri1mb Does it mean Feeding it via the Apple Eco system? If so, I have no interest in it for free either. I'm seriously asking. I'm interested on what the early adopters think about it.
I'm excited about the Vision Pro. I understand why there is little interest, it is too expensive. I'm interested to see how things progress.
Personally, I love how advanced it is. Being able to perfectly see my room at a moments notice and overlay VR on top is supremely dope. And it finally has a resolution that will make me feel actually immersed without being able to distinguish pixels.
HOWEVER. They have mentioned next to nothing about VR games and controllers. They’re focusing nearly entirely on computing at this stage, and I don’t think it’s their focus yet. Plus the price is way too steep for me.
I want one, but I will not be getting one unless I win the lottery or something. In its current state, I just don’t have a need for it.
So, Jon, you may wonder why I’m still watching this video. It is because I love your videos. I don’t miss a one. Thanks for doing this and keeping up the videos.
This is maybe exactly what they want. They are probably so confident in this product that it will practically promote itself by being so awesome
Orrrrrr maybe it's exactly what they want because they want feedback on the first generation to see what features are used and not and can remove that for a lower cost version that has actual mass-appeal
lol
Not at 3500 dollars
@@TheGrimFiend yeah it's not for everybody at this point, as many people have established by now. But over time each generation will shrink and get more affordable until anybody can own one.
@@maxieroo629 yeah probably. It's not a product for the masses (yet) anyway, why would they spend millions of dollars in advertising to people who can't or don't want to afford it
I feel like they announced it like their other products and product lines and since it was not a high demand thing or the demand was not there when apple created it, it probably would result in way that might be good for the public to see.
if quest 3 doesn't exist, then i would definitely buy vision pro. they are similar and the extra cost does not make up for how much better it is.
It's not ready for prime time yet. It's a highly technologically advanced device, but it's not a good product yet. Plus, it's very complicated to manufacture. I don't think Apple intends for the first-gen Vision Pro to dominate the market. But they need to get it into the hands of developers and enthusiasts to advance the ecosystem, discover use-cases, and learn how to improve it as consumer product. The second-gen and non-Pro versions will be true consumer-facing products that will dominate. And by that time, the surrounding ecosystem will be up to speed as well. Apple is giving this first-gen version exactly as much attention as it deserves and requires in the present day. This is a bet on tomorrow.
It may not be a good product for consumers, but it’s an awesome product for professionals. That’s why it’s called Apple Vision “Pro”. As a 3-D modeler and character designer, I can’t think of a better device to use to study human anatomy. One job MORE than pays for the device. 🤷🏾
There is absolutely no reason for me to buy this but I can’t wait to find out what engine it will support for games so I can start developing them!!
Isn’t it unity?
Yeah okay buddy
Did you just say you have no reason to buy this and then immediately give us a reason why you need to buy it? 😂😂
@@LooksFrosty a reason in the future
@@mylesmoses1831 I don’t know it’s not out yet
Well, you are giving me hope for getting one tomorrow morning.
I think this will become a massive asset for architectural visualisation
I think these will catch on slowly as the price comes down, but will eventually become the single biggest revolutionary step in technology since the iPhone.
Idk I doubt it I don’t think most people want to strap an iPhone 1 inch from the their retina … is this what apple meant by Retina display
@@user-jg7ir5yk7sit’s close… they want to eventually create a permanent contact lens in your eyeball. Like a dslr lens mount- you’ll be able to chose diff retinas.
I’m specifically exited about the retina that has built in night vision and food temperature detection- Starbucks doesn’t always get 130 degrees correct, this will prevent any possible burns
APPLE RETINA - comes with Apple Care and Visine eye drops
people hype up the iphone too much. this is much bigger
@@user-jg7ir5yk7s yeah but imagine not even knowing its there. Your laptop, airpods, and iphone all in one device
It isn’t because the maximum user base is probably an order magnitude smaller than a phone. There are vast swathes of the population who have no interest in VR whatever the price. The same is not true of the iPhone.
It looks awesome, that being said, I’m a buyer at $1500 not $3500
I am going to try to preorder one tomorrow!
I do want to get it, but the whole measuring and prescription lenses is a distributor.
I’m preordering. I’m just a fan that loves the tech. Worst case scenario there’s a good return policy. Totally worth getting my hands on trying the future. I hope it’s useable enough to keep.
I recommend the Quest 3 instead
I recommend taping a smartphone to some dollar store reading glasses.
I'm not big fan of apple but I believe VR is the future and Apple gonna make it big! ^^
The future of what, exactly?
AR is the future, not VR
They can also flop spectacularly and kill VR in the process. I'm kinda concerned
1 documentary per month would be great
i would love to have it because i commute regularly for a 7hour trip and i think it would be great for it. but the price point is too much for me unfortunately. as for google search for me it makes sense because its not released yet. i have seen like 2-3 videos about it and all i know its getting released soon. i think it would be looked up way more if it was available. but we‘ll see if the theory is true in a few months from now
Honestly, the Vision Pro is the Apple product I’m the most excited about. I can’t remember the last time I was so hyped.
But that price… it hurts big time. Why invest so much time into a device I cannot afford.
I’ll care about in 5 years when I can afford it
Yep, and in 5 years it will be a product that has had 5 years to gather data and development to become the best VR/AR wearable ever. This is just step 1
I’ve always been a PC guy although I’m Appled out every where else. iPhone, iPad, watch, headphones, etc. I’ve appreciated the desktop/laptop lineup but I could never get myself to want to switch over until recently. Then you started dropping leaks about the Vision Pro and that’s left me curious. I thought about getting the Meta Quest as well but once the announcement came out, I decided to hold off because it’s going to give me the best of both worlds.
One problem is that it’s firstly only available in the USA, and its price.